Hour 2 – Jerome Bettis, Mike Golic Sr.

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show — Hour 2

Date: October 17, 2025
Guests: Jerome Bettis, Mike Golic Sr.
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

Hour 2 of The Dan Patrick Show dives into college football, NFL takeaways, and classic sports storytelling. Dan chats with Hall of Famer Jerome Bettis about the Notre Dame–USC rivalry, his career, and his charitable foundation. Then, Mike Golic Sr. joins to break down college football traditions, big coaching contracts, and real talk about expanding playoffs and changes in the sports media landscape. The crew's banter is as sharp and irreverent as ever, with listener calls, inside stories, and behind-the-scenes humor.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Setting the Stage: Notre Dame’s Moment

• Dan and the crew revel in a lively crowd and gear up for the Notre Dame–USC showdown, emphasizing its history and heightened stakes this season.
• Poll Question Chat: The crew ponders whether Indiana's massive football investment (with new coach Kurt Signetti) signals a real shift from being a traditional "basketball school." Bet on positivity, but with a healthy dose of skepticism about coach contracts ever lasting their full term.

  “These big contracts like that, they never go the distance.” — Dan Patrick [04:10]

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2. Interview: Jerome Bettis (“The Bus”)

Starting at ~06:41

Notre Dame–USC Rivalry

• Intensity of the Rivalry:

  “When I say USC, the first thing that comes to mind is, hey, we hate USC. Absolutely.” — Jerome Bettis [06:41]

  • He places USC above Michigan as Notre Dame’s top football rival, at least from his perspective.
• Personal Experience: Bettis relishes never losing to USC, and recounts the importance of playing well in that game:

  “If you play well in that game, then everyone in the country knows your name.” [07:17]

Recruiting Stories

• USC recruited Bettis (alongside Michigan and Notre Dame), but the L.A. distance tipped the balance.

  “I remember seeing Junior Seau when I was on my visit... looked like Zeus!” [07:51]

• Early on, opponents tried to tackle Bettis head-on, but by mid-to-late career most went low, “making business decisions” to avoid his train-wreck running style.

  “A lot of guys later on saw the kind of the carnage and said, ‘Okay, that’s not for me.’” [08:51]

• Dan asks about the hardest Bettis was ever hit:

  “As soon as I catch it, I get cracked and my head hit the ground first... Usually my head doesn’t get there before my butt.” — Jerome Bettis, on a collision with a Titans linebacker [09:26]

Steelers’ Defensive Woes

• Bettis analyzes the Steelers’ recent struggles, pointing to lack of pass rush and run defense.

  “When you score 30 points, you should win the game... The problem is, they're just not getting production in that front seven.” [11:44]

Coaching Memories

• Bettis missed playing under Mike Tomlin but was on the receiving end of Bill Cowher and Lou Holtz’s famously animated yelling (“double spitters”).

  “The key is, don’t screw up. So I screwed up very, very little.” [13:05]

On-Campus Fame & College Stories

• Bettis humbly notes he wasn’t a “rock star” at Notre Dame—unlike Rocket Ismail, who had to be smuggled out of hotels in laundry baskets to avoid fans.

  “They had to take him out of the hotel in a laundry basket type thing... He was a rock star.” [14:19]

The Jerome Bettis Bus Stops Here Foundation

• Bettis details the foundation’s cyber bus program delivering tech resources to underserved Pittsburgh kids, as well as holiday toy drives for struggling families.

  “We got our second bus... to go to the rural areas of Pittsburgh... where there’s kids that still need access to technology.” [15:22]

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3. Locker Room Banter & Listener Participation

[17:18–19:42]

• Dan tells a hilarious secret about a defensive back who “cried” after getting hit by Bettis—sworn to secrecy, the crew guesses names (Al Harris, Steve Atwater, Mark Carrier).

  “He said he got hit and it hurt so bad that he actually started crying... I was doubled over, I was weeping, it hurt so bad.” — Dan Patrick [17:42]

• Marvin sports new Notre Dame hockey gear, sparking some Irish vs. UConn jokes.

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4. Mike Golic Sr. Joins the Show

Guest appearance starts ~28:08

Golic’s Credentials

• Golic clarifies his new show (“Golic and Golic” on FanDuel), pokes fun at mistaken promos, and plugs the afternoon time slot.
• Golic is no longer “Big Mike” after his weight loss—and the panel has fun at his expense.

Tackling Football Legends

• Golic explains D-linemen rarely met full-speed backs, but sympathizes with DBs facing running-back freight trains like Bettis or Derrick Henry.

  “As a D-lineman, you don’t get that back at full speed... but as a DB, you have to make that business decision.” [29:51]

• Golic’s hardest hit? Crushing Emmitt Smith out of bounds, only to watch him pop up unfazed.

  “I hit him... full speed... I clocked him. And... I’m laying on the sideline going, ‘What the hell just happened?’” [30:29]

Notre Dame–USC Rivalry on the Rocks

• Both Dan and Golic vent their dismay that realignment may kill the legendary series.

  “USC recruited me, but... there was never a thought... and I told [my sons], don’t go to USC. That’s a non-starter.” — Mike Golic Sr. [31:44]

• Notre Dame doesn’t want out; it’s on USC due to future Big Ten scheduling constraints.

  “Notre Dame hasn’t changed their independence... it is on USC.” [33:17]

Conference Realignment and Playoff Expansion

• Dan and Golic lament how college football realignment has eroded historic rivalries and traditions, with future “Super 40” leagues on the horizon.
• On March Madness expansion: universal skepticism; earning a tournament berth should stay special.

On Rudy

“There were some Hollywood things put in there... Great story, but some of the things... maybe didn’t happen.” — Mike Golic Sr. [35:13]

• Golic reveals his brother (on the actual ND team during the Rudy saga) doesn’t even remember Rudy, gently debunking the famed jersey turn-in scene.

Coaching Carousel Chaos & Contract Extensions

• Coaches changing jobs frequently is now the norm; “extensions really mean nothing,” Golic says, since buyouts can always be paid.

  “Under the current system, there’s no way to stop the movement. And, quite honestly, head coaches don’t want to stop this movement.” [38:38]

The Business of College Sports

• Discussion about Big Ten’s potential private equity investments and the friction over who wields power.
  • The future model may see “power 40” schools breaking off to self-govern, but Golic doubts the super-commissioners can play nice.

Gamblers & Point Spreads

• Golic insists players of his era rarely knew the betting line; Dan’s crew debate why Notre Dame is a 9.5-point favorite but agree: the win, not the spread, is all that matters on game day.

Gameday Rituals

• Golic is calling Notre Dame–USC on radio, jokes about his “vomit” still being present at the iconic South Bend bar, Linebackers.

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5. Sports Weekend Preview & Close

[49:38–54:13]

• The crew drafts top college and pro games to watch, nodding to major matchups like Falcons–Niners, Eagles–Vikings, Rams–Jags, and more.
• They name “Best Week in Sports” contenders—Indiana football, Notre Dame’s stability, coach rumors (debunked), and Joe Flacco’s resurrection in Cincinnati.
• Dan closes out with audio of Flacco discussing working with Cincinnati receivers:

  “If you don’t treat [our receivers] a certain way, they can hurt you.” — Joe Flacco [53:30]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Jerome Bettis on Rivalries:

  “When I say USC, the first thing that comes to mind is, hey, we hate USC. Absolutely.” [06:41]

• Bettis on Celebrity at Notre Dame:

  “They had to take [Rocket Ismail] out of the hotel in a laundry basket... He was a rock star.” [14:19]

• Mike Golic Sr. on tackling Emmitt Smith:

  “I hit him... full speed... I clocked him... and I’m laying on the sideline going, ‘What the hell just happened?’” [30:29]

• On coaching contracts:

  “Extensions really mean nothing... there’s no way to stop the movement.” — Mike Golic Sr. [38:38]

• On the 'Rudy' legend:

  “There were some Hollywood things put in there... great story, but some... maybe didn’t happen.” — Mike Golic Sr. [35:13]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Notre Dame crowd and poll question banter: 03:30–05:33
• Jerome Bettis interview: 06:41–16:52
• Defenders “crying” after tackling Bettis: 17:42–18:44
• Mike Golic Sr. joins, discusses Notre Dame, rivalry, and legendary backs: 28:08–43:54
• Sports weekend preview & “Best Week in Sports” picks: 49:38–54:13

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Final Thoughts

Hour 2 of The Dan Patrick Show blends nostalgia, analysis, and humor. Whether shining a light on college football’s shifting landscape, revealing the bruises of NFL life, or unpacking the mythmaking around campus legends, Dan and his guests keep listeners entertained and informed—perfect for fans seeking insight with a side of locker-room laughter.

Transcript

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[Mike Golic Sr.]

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[Marvin O'Connor]

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[Mike Golic Sr.]

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[Marvin O'Connor]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Marvin O'Connor]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Marvin O'Connor]

No, I'm going to.

[Dan Patrick]

I hope he's going to last and I hope he stays a long time. Is one of those coaches that spends.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Many, many years in Indiana and lives.

[Dan Patrick]

A happy, healthy life. Thank you.

[Marvin O'Connor]

A couple of titles.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. Thanks, Todd. Yes, Paulie. It is really a fascinating week, though.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Because Indiana has never been a football school, and this is the biggest commitment.

[Dan Patrick]

They'Ve ever made in their history. I mean, this is.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

This is like. It was like, you know what? Or get off the pot. They said, we're going to put all our chips in and keep this guy.

[Dan Patrick]

Are they still a basketball school?

[Mike Golic Sr.]

They'd prefer to be a basketball school.

[Dan Patrick]

But currently, if your football coach is.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Making more than your basketball coach, you're temporarily a football school.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Like Indiana. Football is having a run right now.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Right.

[Marvin O'Connor]

But they're still.

[Dan Patrick]

It's almost like North Carolina.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

It's a basketball state.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. And it's a basketball college. But right now, things are going the way of football.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Is this the only part of the state where football is king?

[Dan Patrick]

Probably.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Okay.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, probably. By the way, to meet Friday, we got burgers, meatballs. We got reverse seared porterhouse steaks. We got mashed potatoes, green beans, skillet, cornbread. We also had a fan named Don who brought some Polish sausages from a local butcher. Is Don here Don the sausage guy? Don the sausage guy. The sausage king of South. Yes. Okay. Everyone knows that Don brought his sausage. Sausages. Plural, Plural, plural. Confession. Nobody. Yeah. Who has it better than we do? Nobody. Jerome Bettis, hall of famer, Notre Dame running back, and he's got a lot of things that he is working with. The Jerome Bettis Bus Stops Here Foundation. We'll talk to him about that. He's also got a holiday toy drive on display as well. Bussy, good to talk to you. When I say usc, the first thing that comes to mind is, hey, we hate.

[Marvin O'Connor]

We hate usc. Absolutely.

[Dan Patrick]

More than Michigan?

[Marvin O'Connor]

Yes, more than Michigan, but it's slightly more me being from the state of Michigan. I may have a little different opinion. But USC is a. Is our biggest rival. No question about it.

[Dan Patrick]

But you did well against usc, didn't you?

[Marvin O'Connor]

Yes, I never. I never lost.

[Dan Patrick]

I got you. In 1991, you had two touchdowns. Notre Dame won by four. And then in 92, you guys won 3,000, 123. What do you remember about those games that they were.

[Marvin O'Connor]

They were all, you know, really good games. And USC has always been competitive. You know, they had a couple of years that they've kind of slid a little bit, but it's always, you know, that big game. And what I always remembered about it is if you play well in that game, then everyone in the country knows your name. You know what I mean? It's one of those games where if you can Have a big game, you become a household name around the country. That's the kind of game that it is.

[Dan Patrick]

Did USC recruit you?

[Marvin O'Connor]

They did. That was the. One of the three visits that I took, actually.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Marvin O'Connor]

I went to Michigan, usc, and Notre Dame, and USC was just too far away. But I remember seeing Junior Seattle when I was on my visit, and he had a tank top on, and I said, who is this guy? Look like Zeus? I said, who is that? And they said, that's Junior. Say he's going to the NFL. And I was just. I thought to myself, if that's what all the linebackers look like, I'm in big trouble.

[Dan Patrick]

Those linebackers found out quickly they were in trouble. When they were trying to tackle you, you did tell a story. Didn't you have somebody that. It. It almost sounded like they were weeping or when. When they tried to tackle you, was that in the NFL where she heard a little. Little scream or a little cry?

[Marvin O'Connor]

Yeah, that was a little.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, how often did guys make business decisions, you think, with trying to tackle you?

[Marvin O'Connor]

A lot. In the later part of my career, the early part of my career, guys were trying to take me on, and, you know, I, you know, broke a guy's shoulder at play for Baltimore and did this, did that. And so a lot of guys later on saw the kind of the carnage and said, okay, that's not for me. And the latter part of my career, guys started going in my ankles and in lower extremities. They didn't want to take me on a.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, but what's the one tackle that somebody got the better of you?

[Marvin O'Connor]

Oh, my goodness. The one we were playing a Tennessee Titans, and Mike Tomczak, he threw me the ball late, and he knew he shouldn't have threw it to me. So I go to catch the ball, and as soon as I catch it, I get cracked and my head hit the ground first. So, you know, that was a bad one because I'm a big guy, and my head usually doesn't get there before my butt.

[Dan Patrick]

Were you concussed? Who hit you? Do you even remember?

[Marvin O'Connor]

I was not concussed, no. And I cannot remember who. I think his name was Bolden. Bolden. But he played for Tennessee Titans, and he was. He was a good linebacker, but should never have had a hit like that on me. And I got up, I'll never forget, went to the. I went to the huddle, and I just looked at my job.

[Dan Patrick]

And he.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Was like, sorry, bro.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm sorry. What happened to your Steelers last?

[Marvin O'Connor]

Yeah, they, you know, I think sometimes these things are psychological, right? And you hear the what, what Coach Tomlin says about Flacco, right? And then you go out and lay an egg. But you. You have to look at it and say, Joe Flacco is a capable quarterback. When you don't get pressure on him, when you get pressure on him, then you know he can make some mistakes. And that's just what the Steelers couldn't do last night. They could not get pressure, consistent pressure on Joe Flacco. And when you have those receivers on that roster, it's going to be hard for you to cover the entire field. And Joe Flacco was hot, and he sliced apart my Pittsburgh Steelers and it didn't. Didn't look good.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, but this is what I don't understand. Steelers always have great defense, and here you are giving up 30 points again, that I think the big question was receivers, running game, Aaron Rodgers offensive line. That doesn't seem like it's the problem. It feels like it's defense with this team.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Yeah. When you score 30 points, you. You should, you should win the game. I mean, that's just how, how it works in terms of. In Pittsburgh, because that defense always shows up and is ready to play. The problem is they're, they're just not getting the production in that front seven, which is putting the guys in the secondary, you know, at risk there. Nobody's playing well. Let me say that the back end, they're not playing particularly well. And the front seven, those guys, they're not. They're giving up too much yards in the run game. This one thing the Steelers never gave up was 100 yard rusher. And so to see Brown have 100 yards, that was discouraging. And then to be able to not put Flacco on the ground, that was a huge problem.

[Dan Patrick]

Mike Tomlin ever yell at you?

[Marvin O'Connor]

No. I miss Tomlin. So I, when I retired, Coward was in his last year.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Marvin O'Connor]

And then he left, and then Tomlin came a year later.

[Dan Patrick]

Did Cower yell at you?

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Yes, he did.

[Marvin O'Connor]

He yelled at everybody. And I mean, he was a spitter, so you can understand that was.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but was it Lou Holtz? Didn't he.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Yes, I was, I was, I was fortunate to have double spitters. But the key, the key is don't screw up. So I screwed up very, very little. I got, I didn't get as much of that. The juice that somebody else got.

[Dan Patrick]

You should have worn the ladanian Tomlinson shield. Then you could have.

[Marvin O'Connor]

You know, they weren't out there. You better Believe I would have had a shield. 100%.

[Dan Patrick]

Were you famous when you were on campus here your senior year?

[Marvin O'Connor]

No, because. So I left after my junior year, and what happened was I had a really good sophomore year. So, yeah, I was maybe popular, but I wasn't like. So we had to get Rocket Ishmael. Now, Rocket, when I was there, he was a star, okay. They had to take him out of the hotel in a laundry basket type things. I mean, he had that kind of people out there looking for him, and he was. He was a star.

[Dan Patrick]

Wait a minute, wait a minute. Hold up, hold up. Rocket gets in the laundry basket to then get out of a hotel to like.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Yeah, so he can. They can take him out in the back and then put them in the car and drive him away so that, you know, it's not crazy because he couldn't just walk out the front door type thing, you know, he was. He was a rock star when we were at Notre Dame because he had done some amazing things. Myself, I was a really good player and on, you know, on the cusp, if you will. And everybody knew who I was, but it wasn't the rock star type. Celebrity.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but are you talking, like, boy band celebrity for Rocket Ismail? Like, there were women out, girls outside screaming and waiting for. Really? Yes.

[Marvin O'Connor]

It's like if he came down the elevator, you would see a crowd rush over over there, where if I came down the elevator, everybody said, hey, you know, and I do the wave. Hey, if he come down, they would kind of rush over there.

[Dan Patrick]

Tell me what you're doing with the Jerome Bettis Bus Stops Here Foundation.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Well, we. We at the Bus Stops Here foundation, we're, you know, extremely excited about our cyber bus program. We've got our second bus that we've been very fortunate. Bluebird donated a new electric bus to us. We got it retrofitted thanks to the CNX Foundation. And now we've got. We've got it ready and prepared to go to the rural areas of Pittsburgh, Washington county, all those areas where there's kids that still need access to the technology that we're able to provide. And then we also have our first bus that goes into the housing authority there in Pittsburgh and represents the Bus Stops foundation and helps a lot of kids there and parents and grandparents. So we're just proud of the things that we're able to accomplish there in Pittsburgh. And just. It warms my heart our. Our Christmas holiday toy drive. We're trying to get. Get toys, and what we do is we give them the families that are. That are having a difficult time during the holidays that need, you know, kind of a hand up, not a handout. And we kind of provide that for them and their children on the. In the holiday season. So things that we're trying to do in Pittsburgh and try to stay connected to the community.

[Dan Patrick]

Always great to talk to you, Bussy. Thanks again for joining us.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Thank you. Appreciate it.

[Dan Patrick]

It's Jerome Bettis on the program. Yeah. Known Bussy a long time. In fact, I go back, I have a Jerome Bettis LA Rams jersey, and that's awesome. That would be a cli. You know, it's in my man cave in Maine and it's got the, you know, so the Ram colors and. But Bussy gave me that a long, long time ago. Yeah, Paulie, he was so cool in.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

College because he had that number six and he was one of the first guys to go really, with a different number.

[Dan Patrick]

And he was so big.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

And then you had the little six on his jersey.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Yeah, Marvin, he's in the same category as, like, Marshall Falk and Saquon Barkley, where he was so great as a Steeler. People forget he was a Ram. Yeah, like, people don't remember Marshall Falk with the Colts. They're not going to remember Saquon Barkley with the Giants. So, like, man, he was a Ram.

[Dan Patrick]

I remember talking to a defensive back and he said, you got to swear that you'll never mention my name. And he said he played against Bus and he said that he got hit and it hurt so bad that he actually started crying and he didn't want anybody to see, so he doubled over to make it seem like, you know, he got his chest or stomach. And he said, I was. I was doubled over. I was weeping. It hurts so bad. But he said, ryan Erlock. I told you that.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Guess that.

[Dan Patrick]

Defensive back replaying. All right, everybody gets one guess. Sorry, what position did you say he was? A defensive back. Oh, defensive back. Sorry, sorry. Yeah. If you want to make one guess. But I'm not going to tell you if you're right or not, because I promised this guy that I would not say his name. Defensive back who cried. He actually shed tears. It hurt so bad when he tried to tackle Bus. Marvin, I'll start with you.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Al Harris from the Packers.

[Dan Patrick]

Al Harris. I don't think he was a defensive back.

[Marvin O'Connor]

He's a corner.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, you mean like safety? You almost tricked me there. You almost tricked me there, Todd.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Steve Atwood.

[Dan Patrick]

I knew you were gonna say that. Yeah, because you don't know Anybody else? So you had a Bronco seaton. I wanted to say Rodney, but he would never admit to almost crying. No, no. Rodney Harrison was on the kickoff squad, and he would try to get knocked. He would go down there and try to hit you so hard that he would get knocked down. And. And that's how Belichick saw him. He saw him with the Chargers, and he goes, I want that guy on my team. And Rodney is a Hall of Fame defensive back. Paulie, I'm gonna go Rando.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Mark Carrier.

[Dan Patrick]

Safety Mark Carrier. Tampa Bay.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Yeah. Little Bears.

[Dan Patrick]

Little Tampa. Okay. All right.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

I thought I'd catch it in your face if we got.

[Dan Patrick]

We'll never know. We'll never know. It's a secret that I'll. I'll take into retirement. Yes. Marvin, you said. What team did he play for? I didn't. And you almost tricked me. By the way, you got new gear. That's the Notre Dame. If you're watching on Peacock. That's the new hockey logo there.

[Marvin O'Connor]

So awesome.

[Dan Patrick]

That looks great. You're decked out for a guy. That is a Connecticut husky.

[Marvin O'Connor]

No, I'm. I'm a Fighting Irish. When you think of Irish, this is what you see.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Marvin O. Prince.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. And your hands are similar to the hands on the.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Come on, now. Really?

[Marvin O'Connor]

I thought we were having a good day.

[Dan Patrick]

I am. Scale. Okay, let's take a break. Mike Golick is going to join us here, and we'll get more of your phone calls. Also, the athletic director, Notre Dame, Pete Bavacqua. I want to ask him about how do we salvage this rivalry between these two schools. We talked to Marcus Freeman yesterday. I don't think he wanted to answer it, but I had to ask it because I was like, why does USC not want to continue this rivalry? That'll be coming up a little bit later on. We'll take a break. We're back with Mike. Go. Who you calling? Saul. What? Mike Golick Sr. Will join us next year on the Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Paulie Fusco here with Tony Fusco.

[Dan Patrick]

Yo.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

As everybody knows, we're the hosts of the award winning Paulie and Tony Fusco Show. Yeah. But instead of us telling you how great we are, here's how Dan Patrick described us when he came on our show.

[Dan Patrick]

Quick, knowledgeable and funny. Opinionated. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What are you doing?

[Mike Golic Sr.]

You're interrupting our promo.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, he wasn't talking about you. You took those clips totally out of context.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Oh, yeah?

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Well, after this promo, I'm gonna take you out and beat you.

[Dan Patrick]

Let me put this into context. Shut up.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Anyway, just listen to the Pauly and.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Tony Fusco show on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

Or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah. Hey, it's Ed Helms.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

And welcome back to Snafu, my podcast about history's greatest podcast screw ups. On our new season, we're bringing you a new snafu.

[Dan Patrick]

Every single episode. 32 lost nuclear weapons. You're like, wait, stop. What? Yeah. Ernie Shackleton sounds like a solid 70s basketball player who still wore knee pads. Yes. It's gonna be a whole lot of history, a whole lot of funny, and a whole lot of guests.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

The great Paul Scheer made me feel good. I'm like, oh, wow. Angela and Jenna, I am so sorry.

[Dan Patrick]

Psyched you're here. What was that like for you to soft launch into the show?

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Sorry, Jenna, I'll be asking the questions today. I forgot whose podcast we were doing. Nick Kroll.

[Dan Patrick]

I hope this story is good enough to get you to toss that sandwich. So let's see how it goes.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Listen to season four of SNAFU with Ed Helms on the iHeartRadio app, Apple.

[Dan Patrick]

Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Marvin O'Connor]

What's up everybody? This is Snax from the Trap Nerds podcast and we're bringing you the horror every week all October long.

[Dan Patrick]

Kicking off this month, I'll be bringing you all my greatest fear inducing horror games from Resident Evil to Silent Hill. Me and Tony bringing back by our team on Left 4 Dead 2 and we just gonna be going over some of the greats.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Also in October we'll be talking about.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Our favorite horror and Halloween movies and.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Figure out why black people always gotta die first.

[Dan Patrick]

The umbral reliquary invites any and all foolish brave enough to peruse its many curiosities. But take heed. All sales are final. Weekly horror side quests written and narrated by yours truly with a full episode read and a commentary special.

[Marvin O'Connor]

And we will cap it off with.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Horror movie Battle Royale.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Jason versus Freddy. Michael Myers versus the Alien thing with the little Tongue Monster. October. We're doing it Halloween style. Listen to the Traverse podcast from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcast or you get your podcast.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

The Rich Russians falling out of Windows podcast is back. Sad oligarch season two. Since we left you in 2023 after season one, many politically motivated Russian millionaires have continued to die in suspicious circumstances. We dig deeper into these odd deaths, which include everything from mushroom poisoning and mysterious heart attacks to window clumsiness and suicide by decapitation. One thing we have found since we started back in 2022 is the information on the suspicious deaths has become much harder to find. Not just that, it seems as if state controlled media in Russia is being utilized to purposely confuse and contradict the reporting that gets put out. As you can probably imagine, season two gets very weird. Listen to Sad Oligarch on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential. I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills and I get eye rolling from teachers or I get students who would be like, it's easier to punch someone in the face. When you think about emotion regulation, like, you're not going to choose and ADAP adaptive strategy, which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it, if it's going to be beneficial to you. Because it's easy to say like, like go blank yourself, right? It's easy. It's easy to just drink the extra beer. It's easy to ignore, to suppress seeing a colleague who's bothering you and just like walk the other way. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denial is easier. Drinking is easier. Yelling, screaming is easy. Complex problem solving, meditating, you know, takes effort. Listen to the Psychology podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. The Internet is something we make, not just something that happens to us. I'm Bridget Todd, host of the Tech and Culture podcast. There are no girls on the Internet. There are no girls on the Internet is not just about tech. It's about culture and policy and art and expression and how we as humans exist and fit with one another. In our new season, I'm talking to people like Anil Dash, an OG entrepreneur and writer who refuses to be cynical about the Internet. I love tech. You know, I've been a nerd my whole life, but it does have to be for something. Like, it's not just for its own sake. It's a fascinating exploration about the power of the Internet for both good and bad. They use WhatsApp to get the price of rice at the market that is often 12 hours away. They're not going to be like, we don't like the Terms of service, Therefore, we're not trading rice this season. It's an inspiring story that focuses on people as the core building blocks of the Internet. Platforms exist because of the regular people on them. And I think that's a real important story to keep repeating. I created There Are no girls on the Internet because the future belongs to all of us. New episodes every Tuesday and Friday. Listen to There are no girls on the Internet. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Couple of phone calls, we'll bring in Big Mike Golic. How about James in Virginia? Hi, James. What's on your mind? Going to go inside of them, we're going to go outside of them.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Inside of them, outside of them.

[Dan Patrick]

We're going to get them on the run. And once we get them on the run, we're going to keep them on the run. We're not going to pass. We're not going to pass unless their secondary comes up too close. Unless their secondary comes up too close. And we're not going to stop until we cross that goal line. And don't forget, men, today's the day we're going to win. Today's the day we're going to win. Thank you. Thank you. James. You captured the moment from Rudy quite well. Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin O'Connor]

That's the first time he sounded how he looks.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Wow. A deep cut, Marv.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow. Anything else you'd like to add, James? Oh, man, I just. I love the interview yesterday with with Hidalgo, man. She was amazing, dude. What a great woman she is, man. I can't wait to see how she flourishes this year, man. And just so excited for this weekend, man.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Let's go, Washington, man.

[Dan Patrick]

Salute the commanders. And let's go, Irish. Alrighty.

[Marvin O'Connor]

All right. That's the James I know. Come on now.

[Dan Patrick]

James in Virginia. All right. He is Mike Golick senior co host of Gojo and Golick on DraftKings Network. Former defensive lineman, of course, a member of the Fighting Irish alumni, and great to see him again. We welcome in Mike Golick senior on the program. There he is. Used to be Big Mike, but not anymore. Medium Mike is what they call him now.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Two quick things. First, sorry to do this, but we. Mike and I change Networks. We're at FanDuel now, Todd. Yeah, sorry, Todd. I just get the memo on that. I just figured I'd get that out.

[Dan Patrick]

Let me give you the correct plug.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Yeah, it's Golic and Golic now. We went from Gojo and Golic to Go on, Go, go and go. Look and Golic FanDuel Sports Network, three to five afternoons.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

All right. And second thing, second thing, who said Steve Atwater and Rodney Harrison cried? I mean, seriously. I mean, for those that aren't old enough, Google Steve Atwater and Christian Okoye. Christian okoye was a 250 pound back for Kansas City that ran a straight run up the middle. Steve Atwater came and dropped him, dropped him where he stood. And Rodney Harrison, you don't have to say those two would snap their forearms and not cry. So those were those. I was stunned when I heard those two names.

[Dan Patrick]

But you could. I don't know if you can imagine this, but, but like, you have to make that business decision with Jerome Bettis. There's certain players where you go, God, this is going to hurt.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

And I've always got asked about, and I. Jerome's rookie year was my ninth year, my last year in the league, so I didn't play against him. But people always ask, how would you have tackled like Derrick Henry? And I said, as a D lineman, you don't get that back at full speed. You know, that, that back when they get to the second and third level and all of a sudden that DB is looking at that back going, okay, do I hit him in the thigh, do I hit him in the ankle, do I hit him in the chest and make that business decision. But as a D lineman, we rarely got him at full speed and we were bigger than him.

[Dan Patrick]

But when you think about the running backs you played against, like Emmett, you played against quite a bit.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Quite a bit.

[Dan Patrick]

But, but he wasn't fat. He was like the running back version of Jerry Rice. It didn't seem like he was fast, but nobody ever caught Jerry Rice from behind. And Emmett seemed to get faster, better as the game went on.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

That's why, you know, you talk about Jerry rice running the 4:6 at the combine. It was too slow. Well, there's, there's 40 speed, which you rarely want to run a straight ahead 40. And there's game speed, which is a different thing. And, and Emmett could drop his shoulder and deliver a blow as good as anybody. Tony Dorsett was a guy you could never get a good hit on. He always turned his body at the last moment. You could never get a solid hit on him. Emmett Smith, I hit as hard as I've ever hit anybody in my life. Out of bounds. I had a full speed run and he was going toward the sideline and I mean, I clocked him, clocked him, and I hit him. And as I was Going down, I'm like, oh yeah, that one hurt him. And he bounced up and ran right back to the huddle. I'm laying on the sideline going, what the hell just happened? It's like a boxer giving your best punch and the dude just kind of shaking it off. You're going, oh, well, I'm screwed.

[Dan Patrick]

How would you describe this rivalry with usc, Notre Dame and why is it on the cusp of ending?

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Oh, I hate usc. I mean I, I hate usc, but.

[Dan Patrick]

Are you, you were taught that growing up.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Well, I mean, listen, I have a different perspective from Notre Dame. My brother Bob came here as a freshman in 75. I was 12 years old. So I grew up basically coming to Notre Dame games. And then my brother Greg came here and I was more with my peers before I got recruited to come here. I mean, USC recruited me, but there was never a thought. And when both my kids, both. My son Mike was a junior, he was down with Urban Meyer getting recruited to Florida and Jake was a sophomore and was down there with him as a recruit. And I told the boys there, I said, listen, don't go to Notre Dame because me and your mother and your uncles went there. And I rattled off everybody that went there. I said, you go where your heart takes you. I said, except usc. I said, you can't go to usc. That's a non starter.

[Dan Patrick]

Why are we on the, on the verge of ending this rivalry?

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Well, I mean, listen, Notre Dame, it's going to sit there and people are going to listen, say, always blaming usc, but it is on usc. Notre Dame hasn't changed their independence. We haven't changed anything. We still play the same schedule. No FCS schools, all FBS schools. You know, it's ACC schools been, been Big Ten schools. But the Michigan rivalry is somewhat over usc and I get it to a point where they're doing it, they're gonna have to play, they play nine conference games and they have to be careful of their non conference schedule to make the playoffs. So there's part of me that understands their reasoning. But then the Notre Dame part of me comes in and says, just schedule us.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, if you had a scheduling czar or if we get to that point, then you're going to have Notre Dame and Michigan and then you would have Notre Dame and usc. It would, it would be mandatory. I mean, we're in the entertainment business. That's why we've expanded the playoffs. That's why we're going to expand March Madness. I just, I would hope that there is somebody and Maybe this is 10 years down the road when we have the top 40 schools in America.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Right? Right.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. And then you can have. This is your schedule this year. Maybe you don't play USC this year, but you're playing them next year. Maybe you play Michigan. That's what I think we need. I worry about when you have these schools and you take before a big game, you always have that cupcake. Now, I know the cupcake is a payout game, right. But it's still. Haven't we gotten to the point where let's just play a really good schedule? Let's.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Well, I mean, teams are in. Schools are thinking about the playoffs and. But. But the thing about it is, like, Notre Dame has two losses, two losses to the number two and number five team in the country. If Notre Dame runs the table, they're in. They're 10 and 2. They're going to be in the playoffs.

[Dan Patrick]

If they lose tomorrow, they lose, they're.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Going to be done. If they get a third loss, they're going to be done because they can't win a conference. So they're going to be done. And they put themselves in this tough spot. Kind of like last year a bit. But the two team, when. When the committee looks at the two losses, as long as those two teams keep winning, they're going to be like, well, those are quote, unquote, great losses. But to play USC anymore, it would probably be early in the season and conference games being later in the season. So it would have to be done early in the season if it's going to continue. I mean, it's the 96 meeting. The only one that's been longer is Notre Dame Navy, and that's 97.

[Dan Patrick]

What was your first reaction when you saw Rudy? Wow. I mean, it is a documentary.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Do I have to answer this question?

[Dan Patrick]

Hey, Joe Montana, did.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Am I on. Am I on the hot seat for this question? There were some Hollywood things put in there to make it a little more than maybe what it was. So the story is great, right, of not being a recruited athlete, going to Holy Cross, finally getting your chance. But some of the things on the inside of that maybe didn't happen.

[Dan Patrick]

So you didn't buy into this, even though this is your alma mater?

[Mike Golic Sr.]

My brother Bob was a freshman when. When, when the Rudy story, when Rudy was in his last year. And my brother Bob, if you ask him, he doesn't even remember. Rudy doesn't remember. Now, Rudy was defensive show team. My brother Bob was on the defense going against the offensive show team. So he Wouldn't have a chance to play against him on the field, but still, they were teammates.

[Dan Patrick]

And did your brother turn in his jersey like everybody else did, that they weren't going to play? Rudy, remember.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Remember I talked about a Hollywood embellishment? Can I get a to here? Yeah. Again, great story. Great, great, you know, story of. Of kid who wasn't a top athlete, getting on the team and getting in for a play and such.

[Dan Patrick]

He's Mike Golic senior squirming in his seat right now. He is. Him and his son are on FanDuel. FanDuel network. Todd. Sorry, Todd.

[Marvin O'Connor]

So noted.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Sorry.

[Dan Patrick]

That's okay. You've been consistently bad. Don't worry about it. You know, how do you keep these coaches in place for a longer period of time? We grew up in an era where coaches stayed for decades, but here's Marcus Freeman, who. I mean, everybody loves Marcus Freeman. I think they looked at him maybe for the NFL last year, Chicago, you know, is Penn State going to come knocking on the door? The money that is there now, you know, the price with, you know, Coach Signetti getting $11 million a year. How do you keep these coaches in place for a long period of time?

[Mike Golic Sr.]

First off, let me say, stay the hell away from Marcus Freeman, all right? Stay away from my coach, all right? He is a great coach. He's a great recruiter.

[Dan Patrick]

They're coming after.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Listen, I know he just got extended, I think, last December. If they have to accept you keep extending this guy as long as you have to to keep him here. I mean, listen, Dan, everybody, everybody complained about the players having movement. And I do think, while I'm happy the players have movement, happy the players are getting paid. Being able to move every single year is really, really tough. But coaches have been able to. I mean, Kurt Signetti signed that eight year, $92 million extension, and he still could sign somewhere else next year if he wanted to. Right? He won't. He's really done an incredible job with that program, but he could. Extensions really mean nothing. The buyout may get bigger, but you always have alumni that will buy it out. Dan, there's no way. Under the current system, there's no way to stop the movement. And quite honestly, head coaches don't want to stop this movement because there can only be one new coach at Penn State. But if five are talked about, those other four are going to get extensions at the school they're at and more money. So they don't want it to change either.

[Dan Patrick]

What's going on with the Big Ten with this pension fund and, you know, $2 billion. Oh, the private equity firm.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

I think the worry there for this would be split. There's 18 teams in the Big Ten and then the equity firm, there'd be split 20 ways. Basically. I think the one, the one point of contention for any kind of private equity is what kind of power do they have for. I understand they wouldn't get a seat on the board. It all depends on the power that you have. There's one thing to having to pay a portion of your money to somebody, but it's another thing if that entity has power and that's what they don't want. There's already enough cooks in the kitchen already. If you talked about the possibility of just 40 teams at some point, it would probably be more than that. But as my son Mike and I argue about this all the time, he thinks that's going to happen. But I'm like, I don't think commissioners can work together. Greg Sankey would have to be the top man. He's not going to accept anybody else running anything he wants to run. And I don't mean that in a bad way, but that's kind of the position that he's in. So I have a hard time believing even the power for conference commissioners could all work together to secure kind of going away from the NCAA and just forming one, one conference.

[Dan Patrick]

March Madness is going to expand. It's not a question of if, but when. And I mean, it used to be special to make the tournament.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

I mean, we've had so many coaches, we've had John Calipari on the show, and every coach we've had on is just like, why, why are we, why are we, you know, we already have to call the play in Games Round 1, which I don't do. They're playing games now. You're just going to have more play in games. I mean, I have, but a team can say, we made the tournament. No, you didn't. It's really a play in game. Even though you're not saying it's a play in game. I don't understand why they're expanding, but.

[Dan Patrick]

We'Re going to expand college football playoffs.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

We are, But I think 16 is more palatable than 76.

[Dan Patrick]

But, but we not stopping at 16.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Oh, it better stop at 16. I mean, how far can you go? I mean, you have, you have. When do you start games? I already think they, they wait too long to start games. They should start them earlier. Then you get into Christmas, then you get into school, which that's Another thing, we've. We lost the student athlete moniker. But. There's a but. But the lower divisions have figured out playoffs, haven't they? They've been doing it for years and they figured it off. And Division 1 has always been like, oh, oh. We got to think about the players and the games until the money gets too good. Kind of like the NFL and gambling. No, we're not. No gap. Wait a minute. How much can we make? Oh, wait, what's it. Let's have gambling. Okay, so again, it's no secret. It's all about the money.

[Dan Patrick]

Did you know the point spreads when you were playing?

[Mike Golic Sr.]

No, I had no idea, quite honestly. I've worked for DraftKings and FanDuel and I still don't know the point spreads. I really don't. I mean, we don't talk about like the gambling and this point spreads and stuff on our show. We just do it like a sports show like, like we used to do in the old days.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, but. So when you played for the Eagles.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

No. You had no idea?

[Dan Patrick]

No idea?

[Mike Golic Sr.]

No clue? Zero idea? No idea. And I don't know if any players did, but. But I had no. No idea at all.

[Dan Patrick]

Why is Notre Dame a 9 1/2 point favorite tomorrow?

[Mike Golic Sr.]

That seemed coming off the USC destroying of Michigan and my other. The quarterback and Lemon the receiver. How good they are. And the line, their line is on their fourth combination, but they've only given up four sacks. It's either two strong offenses. I was surprised that the spread was as big as it is, but again, as a former player, I never cared about the spread. If we won by a point, didn't matter to me. We got the W. Where are you.

[Dan Patrick]

Going to be for the game?

[Mike Golic Sr.]

I'm actually calling the game for Notre Dame radio. Ryan Harris normally does it, but he has this little thing, this 50th Super bowl anniversary for the Broncos that he's going to. Of which I wish I had a Super bowl, you know, reunion to go to, but he's going to that. So I'm actually. I'm actually calling the game.

[Dan Patrick]

Awesome.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Yeah, that'll be fun.

[Dan Patrick]

A family here.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

No, I'm here by myself, soaking it all in. Nobody wanted to come with me.

[Dan Patrick]

We were at linebackers last night. The line.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Oh, I'll be there. I'll be there tonight.

[Dan Patrick]

We were there last night.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, It's. There is no doubt. I don't want to get graphic, but there's no doubt. My vomit is still somewhere in there. I mean, there's no Doubt that it's still in there somewhere.

[Dan Patrick]

Saw it.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, Golic's been here.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Great place. Just a great place.

[Dan Patrick]

Hasn't changed.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Don't. Don't wear open toed shoes in there. Just don't.

[Dan Patrick]

Great to see you, Todd. Mike Senior. He doesn't work for DraftKings. That was a few months ago. Already he went from DraftKings to FanDuel.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

It's not GoJo and it's Golic and Golic. Yeah, I believe. Three to five Eastern. Yeah, I. I thought I would text that to you, but I was like, he screwed up. He's a phenomenal producer. He knows.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Oh, how times have changed.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, he had Fox the big noon kickoff at Michigan and they're going to be in Utah, so I had to balance it out.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

I messed up once Thursday, once Friday.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Big intro to Brady Quinn. He's like, I'm not in Michigan.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

I'm not here.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm not in Michigan. You did play at Notre Dame, though. You did?

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Well, you got that right. You're calling the game for Notre Dame on the weekend. There you go. You're like hitting.300. You'd be a multi millionaire in baseball.

[Dan Patrick]

Mike Golick Senior. And you'll find him on.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Golic and Golic. I don't know where I got that Gojo from.

[Dan Patrick]

It's Golic and Golic on fanduel. How about we cut our losses? We'll take a break. We're back after this with the most must win game of the weekend. After this, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Hey, it's Ed Helms.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

And welcome back to snafu, my podcast about history's greatest screw ups. On our new season, we're bringing you a new snafu.

[Dan Patrick]

Every single episode. 32 lost nuclear weapons. You're like, wait, stop. What? Ernie Shackleton sounds like a solid 70s basketball player who still wore knee pads. Yes. It's gonna be a whole lot of history, a whole lot of funny, and.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

A whole lot of guests. The great Paul Scheer made me feel good. I'm like, oh, wow. Angela and Jenna, I am so psyched you're here.

[Dan Patrick]

What was that like for you to soft launch into the show? Sorry, Jenna.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

I'll be asking the questions today.

[Dan Patrick]

I forgot whose podcast we were doing.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Nick Kroll.

[Dan Patrick]

I hope this story is good enough to get you to toss that sandwich. So let's let's let's see how it goes.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Listen to season four of SNAFU with Ed Helms on the iHeartRadio app, Apple.

[Dan Patrick]

Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Marvin O'Connor]

What's up everybody? This is Snax from the Trap Nerds Podcast and we're bringing you the Horror.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Every week all October long.

[Dan Patrick]

Kicking off this month I'll be bringing you all my greatest fear inducing horror games from Resident Evil to Silent Hill. Me and Tony bringing back Fireteam on Left 4 Dead 2 and we just gonna be going over some of the great.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Also in October we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movies and.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Figuring out why black people always gotta die first.

[Dan Patrick]

The Umbral Reliquary invites any and all fool brave enough to peruse its many curiosities, but take heed, all sales are final. Weekly horror side quests written and narrated by yours truly with a full episode read and a commentary special and we.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Will cap it off with Horror Movie Battle Royale, Jason versus Freddy, Michael Myers versus Alien Thing with the Little Tongue Monster. October. We're doing it Halloween style. Listen to the Trap Nurse podcast from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

The Rich Russians Falling out of Windows podcast is back. Sad Oligarch Season 2 Since we left you in 2023 after season one, many politically motivated Russian millionaires have continued to die in suspicious circumstances. We dig deeper into these odd deaths, which include everything from mushroom poisoning and mysterious heart attacks, the window clumsiness and suicide by decapitation. One thing we have found since we started back in 2022 is the information on the suspicious deaths has become much harder to find. Not just that, it seems as if state controlled media and Russia is being utilized to purposely confuse and contradict the reporting that gets put out. As you can probably imagine, season two gets very weird. Listen to Sad Oligarch on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential. I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills and I get eye rolling from teachers or I get students who would be like it's easier to punch someone in the face when you think about emotion regulation. Like you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it. If it's going to be beneficial to you because it's easy to say like, like you go blank yourself, right? It's easy. It's easy to just drink the extra beer. It's easy to ignore, to suppress seeing a colleague who's bothering you and just like walking the other way. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denial is easier. Drinking is easier. Yelling, screaming is easy. Complex problem solving, meditating, you know, takes effort. Listen to the psychology podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Internet is something we make, not just something that happens to us. I'm Bridget Todd, host of the tech and culture podcast. The There Are no Girls on the Internet. There are no girls on the Internet is not just about tech. It's about culture and policy and art and expression and how we as humans exist and fit with one another. In our new season, I'm talking to people like Anil Dash, an OG entrepreneur and writer who refuses to be cynical about the Internet. I love tech. You know, I've been a nerd my whole life. But it does have to be for something like. It's not just for its own sake. It's a fascinating exploration about the past, the power of the Internet for both good and bad. They use WhatsApp to get the price of rice at the market that is often 12 hours away. They're not going to be like, we don't like the terms of service, therefore we're not trading rice this season. It's an inspiring story that focuses on people as the core building blocks of the Internet platforms exist because of the regular people on them. And I think that's a real important story to keep repeating. I created There Are no Girls on the Internet because the future belongs to all of us. New episodes every Tuesday and Friday. Listen to There are no Girls on the Internet on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Let's look at the games sliding into the weekend. We'll start with Notre Dame and usc. What would be the other recommendations there? Paulie?

[Mike Golic Sr.]

I got a bunch for college I like to throw out there. Lsu, Vandy, both of those guys, one of them goes away. Georgia Tech, they're undefeated and they got Duke. That's saucy. Ole Miss, Georgia, Texas Tech, undefeated Arizona State. But there's, that's the, that's a college slate.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. You've got the Falcons and the Niners. Is that a big game? Did it become a big game because the Falcons beat the Bills?

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Falcons have some momentum and with Warner.

[Dan Patrick]

Out for the 49ers. That could be saucy. Yeah. I'm trying to think if there's any other great games in the NFL. I mean, the Rams and Jags. Unfortunately, it's in London. Eagles, Vikings. That's good. People aren't sure what to think about the Vikings yet. Well, because J.J. mcCarthy is not playing.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

And now it feels like it's Carson Wentz's job. The. See, I still think Miami and the. And Cleveland Browns only because what could happen if the Dolphins lose this game? Is Mike McDaniel coaching for his job? Colts. Chargers. That's good. Colts are getting one and a half against Chargers. Commanders. Cowboys. Commanders minus two and a half against Cowboys. Just some of the games as we slide into the weekend, courtesy of the great folks at Kings Hawaiian. Go to the bakery or deli section of your local grocery store and pick up a pack. Best week in sports. Is that what we're doing?

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Who had the. The BWIs the best week in sports?

[Dan Patrick]

Dan. Oh, okay, Todd, I'll let you go first. Who had the best week in sports?

[Marvin O'Connor]

I'm going to go Recency bias. After seeing the Dodgers go up three.

[Dan Patrick]

Games to nothing and a chance to.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Sweep tonight, the Los Angeles Dodgers in particular.

[Dan Patrick]

Pitching staff getting it done against the Brewers. Yeah, the starters have been unbelievable. All right. Seaton. Kind of obvious. I mean, he's been having the best two years in sports, really. But Kurt Signetti and Indiana football, they're just rolling right now. By the way, the Dodgers, first team to allow one run or less in four consecutive postseason games since the 1996 Atlanta Braves. Stat of the day. Stat of the day. Stat of the day. Stat of the day. Here comes that. What? Stat of the day. Best week in sports. Paul.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

I'm going to go. College football fans in the state of Indiana, you got your coach for the next few years, and it looks like you're gonna have a good football program for a while. And Indiana has never been able to say that.

[Dan Patrick]

And I think the Marcus Freeman rumors.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

To Penn State have gone nowhere. I don't think he's even considering it. Notre Dame football is in the best shape it's been since the Lou Holtz era.

[Dan Patrick]

So college football in this state. Yeah, but we just throw out these names. I saw where somebody said maybe it's Joel Klatt, that Penn State's search should start with Nick Saban. Nick Saban doesn't want to get back into what is college football now. Yes. Marvin.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Yeah, he's going to the Cleveland Browns with Arch Manning.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, that was another one. That was. That rumor started like, oh, he's going to go to the Browns with Arch Manning. Well, how's that going right now? Because Arch isn't leaving, isn't ready, and your Nick is doing great. He's doing fine. You know, he doesn't wake up with a loss, you know, at any point in, you know, his college football season. Marvin, who had the best week in sports?

[Marvin O'Connor]

Recency bias. Also, Joe Flacco. Unbelievable night last night. Off the couch, 41 years old.

[Dan Patrick]

Icy hot.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Let's go.

[Dan Patrick]

He doesn't seem flustered. He doesn't seem bothered by anything that you never know if he's winning or losing. Here is Joe Flacco on having the opportunity to play with these great receivers in Cincinnati, just with the simple things. Not.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Not the fact that they went for 800 yards, obviously, but you could sit see it. And then today, what I got to see was just how a defense has to treat those guys. And if you don't treat them a certain way, they can hurt you. And if you do treat them a certain way, well, maybe we have some.

[Dan Patrick]

Other guys that can get the job done.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

So you. You today, I think I got to see just the problems they create in general.

[Dan Patrick]

Last week, I said it earlier this week, last week, we didn't do anything.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Crazy, but you could see those guys are different. And it's pretty cool to be able to throw.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, having Jamar Chase, I think I could complete a couple passes. I do. I think he's that good. He had 16 receptions. I think he was targeted 23 times. Like, at what point to the Steelers defense go? I think they're going to throw the ball to Jamar Chase. We should cover him. Yes. Paulie Flacco in Spanish means skinny.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Flacco in Italian means flaccid or weak.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow. Back to you, Dave.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Just throwing that in there.

[Dan Patrick]

Have you had a Flacco kind of day, Todd?

[Marvin O'Connor]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

I feel bad about the Quinn thing.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

And the Gullick thing and you guys, I'm sure, will remind me to make.

[Dan Patrick]

Sure I feel better anytime soon. It's not on us. Thank you, Todd. Johnny Knoxville here. Check out Crimeless Hillbilly Heist, my new true crime podcast from Smartless media, Campside media and big money players. It's the true story of the almost perfect crime and the nimrods who almost pulled it off. It was kind of like the perfect storm in a sewer. That was dumb. Do not follow my example. Listen to Crimeless Hillbilly Heist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Hey, it's Ed Helms, host of Snafu, my podcast about history's greatest screw ups. On our new season, we're bringing you a new snafu. Every single, single episode.

[Dan Patrick]

32 lost nuclear weapons. You're like, wait, stop. What? Yeah, it's gonna be a whole lot of history, a whole lot of funny.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

And a whole lot of fabulous guests. Paul Scheer, Angela and Jenna, Nick Kroll, Jordan Klepper. Listen to season four of SNAFU with Ed Helms on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Two rich young Americans move to the Costa Rican jungle to start over.

[Dan Patrick]

But one of them will end up.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Dead and the other tried for murder three times. It starts with a dream, a nature reserve and a spectacular new home. But little by little, they lose it.

[Dan Patrick]

They actually lose it. They sort of went nuts.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Until one night, everything spins out of control. Listen to Hell in Heaven on the.

[Dan Patrick]

Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Marvin O'Connor]

What's up, everybody?

[Dan Patrick]

It's snacks from the trap.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Nerds All October long, we're bringing you the horror.

[Dan Patrick]

Boogity, boogity, boogity. We kicking off this month with some.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Of my best horror games to keep you terrified.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Then we'll be talking about our favorite.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Horror and Halloween movies and figuring out why black people always die first.

[Dan Patrick]

And it's the return of Tony's horror show side Quest, written and narrated by yours truly. We'll also be doing a full episode reading with commentary, and we'll cap it.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Off with a horror movie battle royale.

[Mike Golic Sr.]

Open your free Aha.

[Marvin O'Connor]

Radio app and search Trapped Nerds podcast and listen.

[Dan Patrick]

Now, the Internet is something we make, not just something that happens to us. I'm Bridget Todd, host of the tech and culture podcast There Are no Girls on the Internet. In our new season, I'm talking to people like Anil Dash, an OG entrepreneur and writer who refuses to be cynical about the Internet. I love tech. You know, I've been a nerd my whole life, but it does have to be for something like. It's not just for its own sake. It's an inspiring story that focuses on people as the core building blocks of the Internet. Listen to There are no girls on the Internet on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an iHeart podcast.