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Dan Patrick
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You rule. You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio Hour 2 on this Tuesday, Jim Harbaugh. The Char will stop by momentarily. Ryan Fitzpatrick, a former NFL quarterback. Analysts for NFL and Prime will stop by as well. Your phone calls always welcome. 877-3-DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP Show Lions over the Ravens 38 30. Big fumble by the Ravens deep into that game with Derrick Henry. You know, in that moment, Troy Aikman was an analyst calling the game, but he acted like a quarterback because he's saying, hey, Derek Henry is throwing his helmet. He's mad on the sidelines. And Troy's like, hey, you got to get your act together. It's almost as if he was the quarterback talking to him. We gotta go back out there. And I thought it was a great moment there with Troy, that it was analyzing something. But also in the moment, if that's my running back, if that was Emmett and he's acting like that, I'd say, hey, we gotta get back out there. The game is not lost yet. But give credit to the lions. They're now 2 and 1. They got Cincinnati and Cleveland coming up. Meanwhile, the Ravens at 1 and 2. They're at Kansas City with their next game. All right, poll question, then we'll bring in coach Harbaugh Seaton.
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Dan Patrick
That's an audience after my heart there. Merchandise stores open danpatrick.com stat of the day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show. Undefeated Chargers. They beat the Chiefs, the Raiders, Broncos, the. They got the Giants coming up. And then after that, they've got Washington. He's Jim Harbaugh back on the show. Who has it better than we do.
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Jim Harbaugh
Nobody.
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Dan Patrick
Hi, coach.
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Jim Harbaugh
Good morning, Dan.
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Dan Patrick
I'm doing great. I'm doing great. How about you?
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Jim Harbaugh
Good. Yeah, Doing really, really good. Really, really happy. I'm happy about our team, our organization. There's. There's a never give up, never give in personality. And that. That bodes well for that's the kind of hearts champions are made up. Makes me happy.
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Dan Patrick
How long will you wait to call your brother after that game last night?
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Jim Harbaugh
We've already texted, so I'm sure we'll talk sometime today.
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Dan Patrick
What do you add, does he ask you or do you volunteer?
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Jim Harbaugh
Oh, I think, I don't know. I don't know how this one will go up. He saw a lot more than I did and it was a heck of a football game. I'm sure he, he knows, he knows what his team needs.
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Dan Patrick
This punching the ball out, do you teach that to your players?
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Jim Harbaugh
Yeah, punch it out, rip it out. I mean, lawnmower, that, that ball, Everybody's going for that ball.
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Dan Patrick
But when it seems like Peanut Tillman might have been the first who was punching the ball out, but you know, we're not. There's certain guys that are hard to tackle, but is that the philosophy? Derek Henry's tough to bring down, so why not go for the most vulnerable part of him and that's the ball.
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Jim Harbaugh
Yeah, I think you bring up a great point. I mean, if, if some, if Mr. Tillman can do it, then another man can do it. Once, you know, once somebody sees somebody do something that hasn't been done, then, you know, see if I can do it that way. You know, that's the, that's the mentality there. It's, it's across sports.
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Dan Patrick
But you're teaching that to your guys.
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Jim Harbaugh
Sure. Yeah. And you teach every week you show the, you show the ways that, that the ball is coming out and getting loose. You know, in the, in the running game from non aggressive angles, you know, the quarterbacks the most at risk and the ball carrier. You know the different ways that the ball comes out. You show it every single week, you know, for the, for the sake of the ball carrier and for the sake of those trying to get it out. And you know, in, in the, in the passing game, in the interception. Turnovers, tips and overthrows are still the leading cause of turnovers in America.
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Dan Patrick
The Chiefs, Raiders and Broncos, you've beaten them. Which out of those three was your best game so far?
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Jim Harbaugh
Oh, that's, it's like your kids. Yeah. I mean, the wins. You love them all. You love them all the same.
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Dan Patrick
Well, there has to be one where.
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Jim Harbaugh
You'Re, you know, you say that, you know, you say that as a parent. There's got to, it's got to be a favorite, there's got to be one.
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Dan Patrick
That I have favorite kids. Jim.
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Jim Harbaugh
The division wins. Definitely the division wins. You know, the ones that, that, that, that seemed are better. You know, you're right. There's, there's some that are better and those are the division wins.
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Dan Patrick
Are you preparing for Jackson Dart to play this weekend with the Giants?
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Jim Harbaugh
We'll Prepare for, for the Giants and in both, you know, both, both quarterbacks.
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Dan Patrick
How do you prepare, do you prepare differently for Russell Wilson and Jackson Dart?
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Jim Harbaugh
I mean, somewhat. I mean, some of the, I mean, just off the, you know, just off, off of what we've seen. I mean, Jackson Dart, the, the quarterback driven kind of game is, you know, would be more in play.
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Dan Patrick
Talking to Jim Harbaugh. They got the Giants coming up on Sunday. The Herbert throw across his body. As a former quarterback, how would you describe that throw and was, Was that scripted to throw it that way?
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Jim Harbaugh
No, that was, that was a, that was an extended play. Justin. It was extending the play out of the pocket. I do have the, I do have the adjective to describe it. Impossible. It was an impossible throw and it was an impossible catch by Keenan Allen. Both, Both. Justin to his left, a quarterback to his left. You know, as he's throwing it, he, you know, runs into the arm of the defender. So he's really got about that much extension. And then, and then it was just, then it's just wrist, you know, it's that much momentum plus wrist and you know, the. Throws, the ball, what was it, 25, 30 yards as the crow flies there and maybe 35 with the defender covering Keenan, you know, perfectly placed. And you know, Justin's, Justin's throws, you know, they never die at the, at the receiver. It's. It's got that it gets. When I catch his ball pregame, it's like none I've ever caught before because when it's halfway to me, I know I better get my hands up and especially protect my face because it just at the end, it, I think baseball pitchers call it hop, right when it's, when it speeds up at the end. And you know, there's quarterbacks that, that when they throw, I mean, it'll hop and as it's. And go up, but his will hop and go. Go straight on the line that it's going. I. It's, it's. It's different than, than anything I've ever seen. Plus he, plus he gets hit in the head as he's throwing. Was all of that impossible?
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Dan Patrick
Was it a good throw though? If like, were you on the sidelines going, no, no. Yes, yes.
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Jim Harbaugh
No. I've really learned not to, not to do that anymore. There was, there was, there's times, there's time in practice or. There's been times in games where I said no that he's, you know, the guy's covered, but he's got the ability. And we tell our receivers Everybody running, everybody alert. Even if you think you're covered, you know, our quarterback can put the ball to a spot, you know, he can hit the bullseye. It's. To me, I think of it as a handoff. You know, it's a 35 yard handoff or it's a 45 yard handoff. I've seen it be a 55 yard handoff. And that's what a 40 yard handoff looks like. You know, with the way he can, he can put the ball right on the, right on the bullseye.
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Dan Patrick
We had him on preseason and I asked him if he would incorporate more running, kind of like Josh Allen, because I, when I saw him in college, certainly in the Rose bowl, like, he looked really impressive running. And Steve Young comes on the show and he says there's so much, you know, real estate out there. If you, you got to take advantage of that, you got to use your legs and go get that. Is that being incorporated into the game plan more this year than it has been before?
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Jim Harbaugh
Well, it has, it definitely has. You know, Justin's making, making so many plays that way. He's, he's always really been that kind of quarterback. You know, there's, there's nothing he's not good at. There's an old saying, I don't know when I heard it, but you know, that God doesn't give anybody a monopoly, maybe except Justin Herbert. In all seriousness. And he has, people ask me, you know, was he improved on this year? You know, he's, he's, he's just always been great since I've been here, day one. You know, it's, it's like watching greatness every single day. What has he improved on? He did get a mile an hour faster this, this off season. We previously had clocked him on the GPS at 20.7 miles per hour. And then in training camp, he, he took off, ran, and we got him at 21.6 miles an hour, so almost a full second faster. And he works on it every day. His training is, is elite. He's can, he's conditioning, he's, he's, it's speed training and he has, he has gotten faster and it's showing up in the games.
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Dan Patrick
When did you realize there was unfinished business in the NFL?
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Jim Harbaugh
When I walked off the field at the Super Bowl 2013, I was really proud of our team and what they did to get there and how they played in the game and felt like, you know, there'll be another day. Almost, Almost like, who's the actor? Who's the actor in Field of Dreams, Burt Lancaster, when he said he got his one at bat in the major leagues and he walked off the field and thought there would be other days, but then there weren't any other days. So, yeah, I thought there would be other days and then for a long time that there wasn't any other days. And now with the Chargers, with a team that, that has the license and the ability to do it, I, I'm, I'm feeling that there's going to be another day.
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Dan Patrick
How's your dad?
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Jim Harbaugh
He's good. Thanks for asking. He's, he was, he was in Baltimore the last, the last two weeks. And so I've been, been talking with him texting, texting this morning. Haven't talked yet, but looking, looking forward to that. We, we. He, my mom, we, we talk about every other day. So get, need to talk to my dad today, see what, see how he's doing, get his football perspective of, of the game last night and our game and uh, and my son Jay's game. Jay Harbaugh. How about the, you talk about the trifecta. He's the special teams coach coordinator for the Seattle Seahawks. And they had a 95 yard kickoff return for a touchdown, I think the longest maybe in Seahawks history and maybe. And the first in the last 10 years. They had a, they had, oh, that was a punt return, punt return, 95 and then a kickoff return for 65 and, and they blocked the field goal. I mean, that's, that's the trifecta right there. Dan.
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Dan Patrick
Well, didn't John proud of him? John started out with special teams, didn't he?
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Jim Harbaugh
Did.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, sure did.
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Jim Harbaugh
And it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the coach that, I mean, coaches, everybody. And Jason. Jay's a great coach. We were together in Michigan for, for seven years. And I feel like, you know, like in a proud way, in the best kind of way that, you know, I'm here and he's kind of like, he's going, he's going above me. He's better. And I mean getting better and is better and just ascending in every way as a, as a coach and a dad, you know, just one of my favorite coaches that I've ever, ever worked with or been around. And that's what we want with our kids, right? We want them to be, we want them to be better than us.
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Dan Patrick
Look at that smile on your face. Look at you, Brown Dad. Do you think your dad could take me?
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Jim Harbaugh
Take you?
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Jim Harbaugh
In a fight?
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Jim Harbaugh
I don't know. That's always the same. That's a, that's never really resonated with me. Like, who could, who could. Why would you want to fight? Let's be friends. Don't make an enemy when you can make a friend.
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Dan Patrick
Maybe arm wrestle.
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Jim Harbaugh
I mean, I don't know.
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Dan Patrick
You know what, he came. Hey, when he came in that day.
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Jim Harbaugh
You're in really good shape. He's in really good shape. I don't know. That'd be.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, but he's 86. He's 86.
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Jim Harbaugh
He's in pretty good shape.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, I know. That's why I'm saying he could probably take me, so. But you're right. We'll just be.
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Jim Harbaugh
I don't know if I want to. I would want to tangle with him.
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Dan Patrick
Did you ever.
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Jim Harbaugh
He's one of the. My great grandfather Harbaugh was a, was an amateur boxer. Little Thunder. And then my grandfather Bill Harbaugh was a boxer. He had eight. Eight fights. Eight or nine fights. And my dad was never a boxer, but my dad can handle himself that way. And I've seen it. I've seen it. Maybe that's a story for another show. I've witnessed it. Take care of himself.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, I know that. I, I don't deny that. Congrats on the start. Great to catch up with you. Thanks for joining us.
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Jim Harbaugh
Thanks, Dan.
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Dan Patrick
Thank you. That's coach, Coach Harbaugh. Yeah. His dad came in and he was like Patrick Harbaugh. And he just put this big hand out there. That was the introduction. Oh, man. Got a big kick at Patrick Harva. Coach. Drop and give me 20. All right, we'll take a break here. Ryan Fitzpatrick will join us. Man, the smile on his face when he was talking about his quarterback. Man, gushing. All right, we're back after this Dan Patrick show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports radio and the hearts radio app. Hey, we're Covino and Rich, Fox Sports radio every day, 5 to 7pm Eastern.
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John Middlekoff
But here's the thing. We never have enough time to get.
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Dan Patrick
To everything we want to get to.
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Covino
And that's why we have a brand new podcast called over promised. You see, we're having so much fun in our two hour show. We never get to everything honestly because this guy is over promising things we never have time for.
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Jim Harbaugh
Yeah, you blubber lips.
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Dan Patrick
Blaming me. Well, you know what it's called? Over promise. You should be good at it because you've been over promising women for years.
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Covino
Well, it's a Covino and Rich after show and we want you to be able part of it. We're going to be talking sports, of course, but we're also going to talk life and relationships. And if Rich and I are arguing about something or we didn't have enough time, it will continue on our after show called Over Promised.
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Dan Patrick
Well if you don't get enough Covino and Rich, make sure you check out Over Promise and also uncensored by the way, so maybe we'll go at it even a little harder.
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John Middlekoff
It's going to be the best after.
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Dan Patrick
Show podcast of all time.
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Covino
There you go Over Promising and remember you could see it on YouTube, but definitely join us Listen Over Promised with Covino and rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Dan Patrick
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Jim Harbaugh
Talked about this a year or so ago. If Jared Goff gets a Super bowl victory with the Lions, that's enough for the hall of Fame.
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Dan Patrick
Let's bring in Ryan Fitzpatrick, NFL on Prime video Thursday night. Thursday night it's the Seahawks and the Cardinals. Do you agree with that? Jared Golf A Super bowl win makes him a Hall of Fame quarterback.
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
Wow. We're starting with the tough questions early. I think so because, because it's Detroit as well. You know, I think there's a lot of fan bases that would go crazy for that. But Buffalo and Detroit, if there's a quarterback could bring a Super bowl to either of those, think they'll end up in the hall of Fame. So it's, it's been amazing what Jared has been able to do in Detroit and now switching offensive coordinators. You know, we talked about the genius of Ben Johnson and after the first game against the packers, will they be the same ever again? I think we got that answer. I think they're going to be just fine.
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Dan Patrick
What do you take away from last night's game?
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
I come out of that, I think the Ravens are going to be fine. But I come out of that game so impressed with Detroit and what Dan Campbell has done there. The mentality that those guys play with, really happy for Kelvin Shepard to step in at defensive coordinator, the emotion and the passion that he shows on the sideline. But I, I think Detroit right now, a lot of people obviously are going to say the Eagles and you got to knock off the Eagles. But I think the Detroit's for me are my favorite team in the nfc.
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Dan Patrick
The Ravens defense, they used to lead with their Defense, Ryan, that defense was non existent last night. That doesn't concern you?
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
It does a little bit. I mean, if you look to the week before, they made some big plays, you know, fumble return for a touchdown, the interception returned down to the five by Wiggins. They were missing MA last night. They were missing Van Noy. I think we've seen this from the Ravens before, though. I think we've seen the struggles at the beginning of the year. I think they're too talented on defense at all three levels. They're too talented to not figure this thing out by year's end.
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Dan Patrick
More concerned about the Chiefs of the Ravens since they meet each other next week.
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
Yeah, I'm more concerned of the Chiefs and I've been concerned with the Chiefs for the last few years and I've been very wrong. I think, I think a lot of us have. But you know, I think everybody is saying, well, wait, the Calvary's coming. Rasheed Rice is going to come back where he's going to be healthy. This offense is going to get back on track and figure it out. But it just seems like things are difficult for the Chiefs right now on offense and you know, they have a much better defense statistically than the Ravens do right now. But I just think the Ravens are a much better football team and I think that'll show up on Sunday.
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Dan Patrick
What's it like to go against a defense that you know is bad?
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
It's wonderful.
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Dan Patrick
It is wonderful. Cowboys defense, you, you know, there's no pass rusher, secondary, pretty shaky. Like, man, you probably have to hide your giddiness. I think when you go on the field, don't you?
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
I think there's, there's two different things as a quarterback. One is to go into a game known, you're going to be able to run the ball at will. And for it to actually happen, that's when, that's when it's great. When you can have a relaxing game, when you can get those five and 10 yard plays and then a chunk run here every now and again and it opens up the play action. You know, they're having to load the box to try to do anything to stop the run game and you've got one on ones on the outside with big advantages. That's huge. But you know, in our Thursday night game, you saw Miami and the Bills and there was, they were running it at will and then something happened at halftime and there was just a lull. And so it's the beauty of the NFL where you just, you, there's professionals on both sides of the ball. So I think the, the Cleveland packers game reminded of us of that this weekend where it's like we think we have this whole thing figured out and the, the Chiefs are falling down and the Ravens are no good anymore. And all of a sudden, you know, the Browns go ahead and beat the packers, who were the super bowl favorites two weeks ago.
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Dan Patrick
How often did you go to the line of scrimmage and you go touchdown before the play?
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
So I'll tell you, I was, I had the privilege of playing with a lot of great receivers. So if I could walk up and see a one on one matchup with a go ball and I had Mike Evans on the outside or I had a quarters look and I had Desean Jackson on a post, DeAndre Hopkins was that way too. And then my 2015 season with Brandon Marshall, I did that quite a bit and he got in the end zone quite a bit. So I think a lot of that is based on matchups and the guys that you have on the outside.
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Dan Patrick
How is quarterbacking changed in the last 10 or 15 years?
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
It's changed a lot. And I think, you know, part of it is protecting the quarterbacks. Less big hits, easier, easier for these guys to stay healthy. It's still obviously going to hurt when you get hit with a great shot of Miles Garrett hitting Joe Burrow in the, in the first week where it's like, so you want to play quarterback in the NFL, this is what it looks like. But these rules have helped quarterbacks stay healthy and stay on the field. And I think the second thing, that's a big difference. You've seen completion percentage jump way up and you know, the, the air yards on these passes. A lot of these offenses now getting the ball out on the perimeter, having those plays where it's a swing pass and there's a fullback or a tight end as the lead blocker out there. A lot of this is an extension of the run game. And so I think we're seeing a lot of quick passes, a lot of short passes, and I don't know that it's necessarily changing for the better. I like some of that other stuff and that's why you like teams like Detroit and like to watch the play action and Jared Goff throw it down the field and on 4th and 2, the Amun Ra play action, you know, trust in him to make that throw. But it's changed and I don't know that it's changed for the better in terms of all the quick short passes.
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Dan Patrick
I don't Know why more quarterbacks don't start under center, that it feels like you can run play action, like you can hide a little bit more. It's more deception there instead of being in the gun. Help me understand why we don't see more of that.
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
Yeah, I just think because of the way that it's being taught from a very young age now. And in college, you know, it's all about. You have guys come into the league that haven't really had to be in a huddle and haven't really had to bark out a cadence or snap count, but that kind of stuff, it's easier to do. You like the spread out, wide open stuff in college, and so a lot of that occurs in shotgun, but it's, it's a big difference. It's a big change for some of these guys coming into the NFL and it is a huge advantage to be able to get under center.
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Dan Patrick
You've got the Seahawks and the Cardinals on Thursday night. I thought Marvin Harrison Jr. Was. Thousand yards, hundred catches. This is going to be easy. What the hell has happened?
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
I think part of it's a confidence issue. And you saw in the last game he had two big drops. One of them ended up not costing him because they had a pass interference call in the end zone, but just, you know, stuff plays that he's probably made some since he was 5 years old. And so that, that happens to guys sometimes where you just, you fall out of confidence. So I think it's the job of Jonathan Gannon, especially the job of Kyler Murray, to try to bring him up out of this and to breathe life and breathe confidence in him because he is, he's a good player. I think the biggest knock on him so far, and I live in Arizona, so I've been hearing a lot of it is, you know, his inability to make that contested catch and to do it consistently. He obviously dropped a couple where he was open this last weekend. But going up and being strong and using your hands and I think the hard thing is the comparison is Larry Fitzgerald, right? He comes in and they want him to be the franchise guy like Larry was in the face of the franchise for 17 years. And he hasn't lived up to that billing yet, but he has the talent. So it's still early and I hope he can, he can make himself come out of this thing and gain some confidence back.
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Dan Patrick
Would you put Jackson Dart in there for a home game against a better team, the Chargers, or on the road against a worse team, the Saints?
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
See, I've always had it circled. So we have. We have week six, I think. Let's see. 1, 2, 3, 4. Yeah. Our week six game is the Giants, which is a Thursday night. And so being a guy that has started as the bridge quarterback for Plug, you look at the bye week, first of all, and I think their bye week is week 14, so it wasn't going to happen then. And then you look at the Thursday night games where you can get a couple extra days of practice. So I've always had, after our game, circled. Week seven would be his first start. You know, it's. It's difficult, obviously, to play this position. And Russell Wilson, there's a lot of things that he's going to try to cover up in terms of maybe the line play, the, you know, lack of threats on the outside, the running backs, whatever it is. It's nice for Jackson Dart to be able to sit and kind of watch him operate a little bit and get beat up. Their schedule is really tough, so. He'll be in there soon, though, and I think there's a lot of excitement around him. We were able to do his preseason game and what he will bring is a little bit more mobility to that position.
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Dan Patrick
Fitz and Wit A Wave Original, wherever you get your podcast, you guys chopping it up, telling stories, giving dad energy there. How much fun has that been?
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
It's been a lot of fun. I put off the podcast for a couple years, and then what I realized was I finally found the right person to do it with. And Andrew Whitworth and I were teammates way back in 0708 for the Cincinnati Bengals. And our friendship has kind of come back around after we started working for Amazon together, but we love it. We just had Dion Dawkins on yesterday and to be able to sit down and talk with some of these guys, some of them we have forged friendships with already and some of them just really getting to know for the first time. And Big Snow was one of those guys, but what a character he is and, and what a moment he's having with the Buffalo Bills. And he's kind of seen it all the last eight years with that franchise, but he's been with Josh from the beginning, so it was cool to see and listen to some of those stories with Dion.
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Dan Patrick
Good to talk to you. Have fun on Thursday. Great to catch up with you again.
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
All right, thanks, Dan.
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Dan Patrick
That's Ryan Fitzpatrick. It's Fitz and Wit A Wave Original wherever you get your podcast. Andrew Whitworth, very funny guy. They got Seahawks, Cardinals on Thursday night. Jake in Colorado. Hi, Jake, what's on your mind today?
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Caller
Hey, DP Recent inductee into the DDC Club. I wanted to call in seat made a comment earlier on your show being that one of the. Or the best thing you do is your interviews, and that's really what you guys focus on. Even when I'm missing the show for work and other reasons, I always go back and listen to the interviews. I've been introduced to so many guys that I had no idea even existed in the entertainment world and professional world. And one of which was an old interview you did with Burt Reynolds back 10, 12 years ago. He was a. My dad was a huge fan of his, and I just remember I was drawing a bathroom at that time, and I just sat down and just listened to the interview and listened to this guy seen on the screen for years, and he brought out the person who. He was just fantastic.
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Dan Patrick
Well, I hope that my audience, after this many years, this many interviews, trust me, if I have somebody on that maybe you're not familiar with, because I'm. I do think of you. If you're watching or you're listening in your car, are you interested in this? Or this is why you should be interested in this. And that's the fun part of it. And, you know, we kind of look at all different walks of life when it comes to this that, you know, is there a movie? Is there music? Is. Is it just sports? And kind of expand everybody's horizon there? And also give you an idea of what interests me when we have people on, because I don't have a boss, which is the beauty of this. And we just talk about what we're interested in, and there are days when, you know, there's not much to be interested in, and that's the real challenge. I go back to Covid, and I think Covid is the proudest time of this show, even given everything we were going through. We had to come up with ideas, we had to come up with guests, and we did it. And we got to work through the entire Covid period. And. And that's what this is about. Getting along with each other, having ideas, trying to entertain you, pique your interest. And that's the challenge every single day. That's why I say every day is a Super bowl, because during the NFL season, it's easy to do this job. It's the other days, other time periods that you go, what are we talking about today? And what is of interest to you or should be? And that's the fun part of it. But the interviews get you know, there's strategy to it. I take them very seriously. And not everybody comes out, you know, with a great interview. But, you know, our approach is the same. Ask interesting questions, but better yet, get interesting answers. That's the key. Let's see Jordan in Peoria. Hi, Jordan. What's on your mind today?
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Caller
Hey, Dan, thanks for having me on again. You've been covering the NFL for a long time, and I've seen a lot of quarterbacks kind of come and go. And when you're looking at, like, young quarterbacks, what traits do you look for that usually tell you if they'll be successful? And kind of based on that, what have you seen so far from Caleb Williams and do you think he shows those traits? And I apologize, I'm a Chicago Bears apologist, so I had to, had to get a Bears question in today.
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Dan Patrick
That's okay, that's okay. I, I want people to be patient. We're not in today's sports society, everybody's got to have a hot take. They want to be the first to say, I mean, Paul Feinbaum, who I have great respect for, and all of a sudden he's slobbering all over Arch Manning. You know, this is the best prospect since Tim Tebow. And I'm like, oh, don't do this, don't do this. And then he had to walk that back. It's, we don't have to have an opinion right away, but when you do have an opinion, then have it based on something. And that's what I want people to do. With Caleb Williams or Bryce Young, CJ Strout, you get about a three year window and then all of a sudden we decide if you're going to get a contract or you're going to be, you know, playing for somebody else and you'll be a backup for a little while. That seems to be the progress here. And Caleb has the talent. I don't know how well he was coached at USC as last year. I don't know if he wanted to be coached. I don't know if Lincoln Riley was able to coach him to get him ready for the NFL, because when he's bad, he's playing like he did at usc, which was good enough for college. It's just not good enough for the NFL. And he can make all the throws. We've seen that. I still think he and Ben Johnson can make some magic there. You had people already moving on. This will never work out. I mean, people I respect who are saying, oh, this won't work out if Caleb wants to be coached, then he can be great. And that may sound strange, but these guys are told at a young age how great they are and why am I listening to you? And I'm going to do it my way. The great Joe Montana said 75 of my success is because of Bill Walsh, because he listened to him. That's the key. Are you going to listen to somebody? Are you going to be coached? That's the most important part of all of this. And not everybody wants to be coached or coached hard. You know, imagine your entire life, you've been great, you've been told you're great, and then all of a sudden you're not great. And the trait, the biggest thing I like to see what happens when something goes wrong. That tells me a whole lot about that quarterback. We'll take a break. More phone calls coming up. Back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.
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Dan Patrick
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Caller
Hey, D.P. how you doing?
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Dan Patrick
Good, good, good.
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Caller
611 95. First time, long time. Hey, I wanted to, I wanted to bring up your, your interviews and your, your questions. Been listening for a long time. And being in law enforcement, I'm an expert in interviewing interrogation and I teach classes to law enforcement, to civilians. And I use one of your interviews back when Russell Wilson Jr. The third was on the Seahawks. And you're talking about between Pete Carroll and his being upset about an offensive line, what he was not saying, when he wasn't saying anything, but what his body was saying, how he was saying things. I've used that interview for years because we all knew how upset Russell Wilson was. And the way you described it afterwards, you took his body language, how you said things, when he said things or when he was saying things, all the unsaid things were, were incredible things that you all picked up on. And that's something that I do every day. So it's always impressed me of how you interview these, you know, these professionals and get everything out of them that you can.
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Dan Patrick
Well, thank you, sergeant. And be safe out there. Ask open ended questions. But this started at the super bowl when I saw Russ sitting next to the commissioner and Brady and Mahomes were playing in the game and Russ looked miserable. And I said to Fritzi, I said, see if Russ will join us after the Super Bowl. And we were supposed to have him on that Friday of Super bowl week. And then he was there for Walter Payton, man of the year. And then I said, get him on, getting on. He's. He's sitting on something. And you know, Russ famously, you know, like A lot of Derek Jeter, you know, they, they kind of look like, or sound like they're telling you something. They're not really telling anything, but they're very pleasant when they do it. And Russ would do that. And this was different. And I thought, gosh, if I can, I just need an opening here. And I, I viewed him as an opponent. I did. I was like, I'm gonna, I gotta figure this out. Because he's got something, he wants to, he wants to say something. I just don't know if he's going to go into that Russell Wilson mode. And if he does, then I'm not getting anything. And then all of a sudden he cracked a little bit or he was willing to crack. And then all of a sudden it was, you know, either me or, or coach. And then you know, all of a sudden, boom, it detonated. That changed a whole lot. Whole lot. But thank you for the phone call. Sergeant Matt in Ohio. Hi, Matt. What's on your mind today?
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Caller
Hey, guys, thanks for having me on again. I had just two things real quick. The first one is you caught me off guard with Shawshank Redemption because that's my favorite all time movie. And I'll never forget the scene where it's at the very end and Morgan Freeman is walking towards Mr. Dufresne and he can just sense he's there, kind of turns around and looks. I don't know if. Remember that part. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was just. It was. And then the other thing is I just want to echo a lot of the great interviews that people have been talking about. And I've noticed that a lot of, some of the better interviews you have are backup quarterbacks and they always get bad rap. But I feel like they get to see lot of the game and, you know, not being caught up right in the mix of it. And they can provide some of the best info. I think some of. I think that something. Some of your best interviews personally.
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Dan Patrick
Well, thank you, Matt. They do see the game. They're involved in the game and they're usually not interviewed about the game. And I love the fact that you can have them on like Chase Daniels, one of my favorite interviews. But it's because he does his homework and I can ask him, what do you see? And, and he can tell me and then, you know, and tell you the audience and, and it makes us smarter. And that's always what's great when, when you get those quarterbacks who are willing to tell stories and they're going to be able to tell you something. That we don't see because it's so subtle. I mean, even I, I know I brought up the what do you hear when you're in the pocket to Steve Young and, and, and I asked David and Derek Carr because I'm curious about that. You've got chaos around you. And Steve Young yesterday said, you know, I, I, I would hear Reggie White just screaming, but he said for the most part, you're, it's like this kind of white noise that's there for us. It looks like, oh, my gosh, people are yelling and screaming and saying stuff, and it's got to be chaos in there. But these guys can be in a vacuum and compartmentalize. And, and that's what I find amazing because we see everything around them. They can't, they have to stay in the moment there. All right, Coming up, Tim Robbins on Shawshank Redemption 31 years later.
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