Hour 2 – John Harbaugh, Valentine’s Day Advice

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 2 (Feb 13, 2026)

Main Theme:
This episode centers on Dan Patrick’s interview with new New York Giants head coach John Harbaugh, exploring his transition from the Baltimore Ravens, insights on coaching, and personal stories. The hour also features the crew’s trademark banter, listener calls on sports topics (from tanking to the “Dead Dads Club”), and lighthearted Valentine’s Day advice.

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Key Segments & Insights

1. Poll Questions & Meat Friday Updates (03:30–04:36)

• The crew reviews quirky poll questions, with topics including Olympic scandals (“crotch gate”), NBA All-Star Celebrity Game team choices, and the perennial “Who has it better than we do?” catchphrase.
• Food Update: It’s a “Meat Friday” with strip steak, cheese fondue, and chocolate-covered strawberries.

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2. Interview: John Harbaugh, New York Giants Head Coach (04:36–17:14)

Harbaugh’s Move from Baltimore to New York

• Harbaugh reflects on emotionally departing Baltimore after 18 years:
  • Quote: “You do take it personal in a sense, because it's a very personal thing...But I wasn't offended by it...It was disappointing. But...there's a plan for life. There's a purpose in life.” (05:31)
• Discusses his faith and viewing relocation as following a path set out for him.

Facing Expectations & Coaching in the NFL

• Compared to Mike Vrabel’s quick turnaround for a new team:
  • Quote: “It's time to produce day one. Our players expect that. Our coaches expect that. We expect to come out of the gates. We're going to come out of the corner swinging.” (06:51)
• Enthusiastically references bringing a Hearns-Hagler-style “come out swinging” approach, but with Dan pointing out the risk:
  • “He got knocked out, so you don’t want to come out swinging like that.” (07:35)

NFL Divisions: Which is Tougher?

• AFC North vs. NFC East:
  • AFC North “has been the tougher division...over the last 18 years,” but NFC East’s challenges and rivalries are not lost on him—especially the Eagles, Cowboys, Commanders, and Giants' storied traditions. (07:53–08:52)

Rationale for Choosing the Giants

• Attracted by the Giants’ roster, especially quarterback Jackson Dart:
  • “It starts with the quarterback…Jackson was the guy that really excited me when I saw him. Now even more so being around him every day.” (09:27)

Family, Coaching Advice, and Sibling Rivalry

• Best coaching advice from his father:
  • “You got to work really hard. You got to work harder than everybody else. He goes, because I know you two guys and you're really not that smart...so you got to outwork people. That's a direct quote.” (09:55)
• On brother Jim Harbaugh: “Jim’s the smartest guy I know. Street smarts, emotional smarts, knows how to make people feel a certain way. Funny dude.” (10:22)
• What does John do better than Jim? “I beat him in golf the last time…And I look younger than Jim right now.” (10:41)

On Mike Macdonald (Baltimore’s Current Head Coach)

• Reached out after Super Bowl — describes him as “confident, smart…Hard worker…couldn’t be more proud of him.” (12:01–13:26)
• Praises nephew Jay Harbaugh’s success as special teams coordinator.

Closing Baltimore Chapter

• Still in touch with former QB Lamar Jackson—overwhelmed by 2,500+ texts after departure from Ravens. (13:47)
• On considering both Falcons and Giants during coaching carousel: impressed by quality people throughout the league; could “visualize myself in every one of those jobs.” (14:33)

What Happens to Ravens Gear?

• “Kept a couple things. Some of the nicer stuff…a good hoodie. The rest I gave to friends and Goodwill.” (15:41)

Parting Banter

• Mutual appreciation and laughs about their time together broadcasting the Super Bowl in frigid Minneapolis:
  • Dan: “We had to get a police escort to take us to the stadium...” (22:51)

Memorable Exchange
Dan: “Who has it better than we do?”
John: “Nobody…talking about crotch gate. Best job ever. I want that job.” (11:48)

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3. Listener Calls and Sports Banter

The “Dead Dads Club” (23:59–27:02)

• Touching call from a listener, James, joining after his father’s recent passing—a recurring show in-joke/real-life support group.
  • “Just wanted to give a shout out to Pistol Pete Mortimer…and hopefully we're gonna have some beers for him today.”
• The crew riffs humorously and tenderly on application procedures for the club, with Matt noting:
  • “It’s not that great of a club to get into... I'm not in it, but I'm not, like, in a rush to get in it.” (25:14)

Tanking, Relegation, and Ownership Incentives (27:08–32:38)

• Listeners float English Premier League-style relegation to curb NBA tanking. Dan and crew muse on the impracticality but fun of the idea.
• Discussion about incentivizing owners to compete, tongue-in-cheek riffs on forcing owners to sell after 10 years of futility.

Pro Bowl & All-Star Game Fixes (32:38–33:18)

• Listeners suggest making Pro Bowl a “reserves only” game, voted on by peers for more competitive spirit.
• The crew is skeptical: “Why would we play hard? It doesn't mean anything.” (33:12)

Crew Moments & Show Culture (33:37–37:50)

• Listeners recall favorite behind-the-scenes show moments, including oddball antics involving Fritzi and Jay (“It's all about content, Jay!”).
• Hilarious banter about crew member mix-ups and misnaming—Jay referring to Marvin as “Melvin” or Matt as “Sexton.”

T-Shirts and Show Memorabilia

• Calls spark discussion of shirts with catchphrases like “Who has it better than we do? Nobody,” and the proposed “Thanks for Nothing” tanking shirt.

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4. Best Week in Sports (44:22–47:59)

• Todd: Picks Sam Darnold.
• Matt/Seaton: Kenneth Walker III for his Super Bowl MVP run.
• Marvin: Julius Erving, after seeing “Soul Power” documentary. Dan follows with a heartfelt Dr. J story.
  • “He was every bit what Jordan was and then some...” (45:33)
• Dylan: Solomon Tulia Poopoo, the “Van Wilder of football,” granted a ninth year of eligibility.

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5. Valentine’s Day Advice and Jokes (48:29–52:13)

• Caller Dylan seeks advice after his girlfriend objects to his Valentine’s Day golf plans.
  • Dan: “Say, I'm going to play 18 and then got plans for us later on today and tonight.” (49:26)
• Todd jokes about his own romantic prospects (“I'm just waiting for the next like, you know, eclipse...”) while the crew shares thoughts about not making Valentine’s Day one-sided.
• More banter about partners’ expectations and “Alive Dad’s Club” (for those whose dads are still around).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• John Harbaugh on taking things personally:
  “Everything is personal. You know, we pour your heart into what you do every single day... It just was disappointing. But by the same time, it's like, you know what, There's a plan for life. There's a purpose in life.” (05:31)

• Dan on coaching expectations:
  “You don’t get to ease into this job, John.” (06:35)

• Harbaugh on starting strong:
  “We're going to come out of the corner swinging.” (06:51) “Let the chips fly.” (07:40)

• Harbaugh on players:
  “It always has been a player's game, it always will be.” (08:58)

• On sibling rivalry:
  Dan: “Who's smarter between you two?”
  John: “Jim's the smartest guy I know…What do I do better than Jim? I look younger than Jim right now.”* (10:22, 10:41)

• Valentine’s Day Advice:
  Dan: “Say, ‘I’m going to go play golf with my boyfriends, but I’m going to spend the rest of the day and night with you, my girlfriend.’ And you treat her like a queen.” (48:58)

• Matt/Seaton on the ‘Dead Dads Club’:
  “It's not that great of a club to get into. I'm not in it, but I'm not, like, in a rush to get in it.” (25:14)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Poll Questions & Meat Friday Reveal: 03:30–04:36
• John Harbaugh Interview: 04:36–17:14
• Listener Calls (“Dead Dads Club,” Fan Stories): 23:59–27:02
• NBA Tanking/Relegation Calls: 27:08–32:38
• Pro Bowl/Game-Specific Calls: 32:38–33:18
• Show Culture & Crew Banter: 33:37–37:50
• Best Week in Sports: 44:22–47:59
• Valentine’s Day Advice & Closing Bits: 48:29–52:13

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Tone & Style

The show blends forthright sports talk and behind-the-scenes camaraderie, balancing emotional insight (especially in Harbaugh’s interview) with banter and authenticity. Dan and the crew mix sports acumen with humor, keeping the tone welcoming both to hardcore fans and casual listeners.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Show

This hour delivers Dan Patrick at his best: insightful and humorous interviews with sports figures (John Harbaugh’s openness on transition and faith is a highlight), sports debates with a twist, and the kind of inside jokes and show culture that have built the program’s loyal following. From NFL drama to Valentine’s Day dilemmas, it’s an easy listen, with both laughs and genuine moments.

Transcript

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. We'll look at the, the rosters there. These celebrities playing in that event. All right. 877-3-DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @tp show he's John Harbaugh, the Giants head coach who has it better than we do. No.

[John Harbaugh]

I know the answer to that one. It's never changed.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. How often did your dad ask you that question?

[John Harbaugh]

Oh, I don't know. It's like about every day right now. I know that. But we got it young. We didn't, we didn't understand it till later. You know, it's one of those things that your parents tell you that you kind of don't get, you kind of make fun of. What is that everybody's got better than us. Dad, it's cold. We're complaining. Whenever we complain, though. That's what we heard.

[Dan Patrick]

You take this job. Let me. Let me stay with Baltimore for a moment. How do you not take it personally when the franchise doesn't want you anymore?

[John Harbaugh]

Yeah, I don't. Well, you do take it personally, really. I mean, I can't say that you don't. Everything is personal. I mean, life is personal. You know, we pour. You pour your heart into what you do every single day. It's meaningful and it matters. And. And I know that everybody that we were with there, who we love in Baltimore all those years, would say the same thing about what they did or about us and everything like that. So, yeah, you do take it personal in a sense, because it's a very personal thing. But. But I wasn't offended by it. It didn't. It didn't make me mad, didn't make me bitter. It just was disappointing. But by the same time, it's like, you know what, There's a plan for life. There's a purpose in life. And I believe in. I believe in our almighty Creator and I believe that there's a reason that things happen. And when, when, when, when that. When, when the Lord above says go, it's time to go. And that's how I look at it. And he said, go to New York. And here we are so very excited about that. Is we're right where we are supposed to be at this particular point in time is exactly the place we're supposed to be. And that's what I'm excited about.

[Dan Patrick]

Mike Vrabel put a lot of pressure on coaches taking over teams. He turns the team around and goes to the Super Bowl. Can it be? I mean, thanks, Mark. I know. I was wondering about that. You know, you don't get to ease into this job, John.

[John Harbaugh]

No, no, no, it's okay. Hey, you welcome the challenge. I missed the National Football League, you know, but not for long. That it's time you got. It's time to produce day one. And our players expect that, our coaches expect that. We expect to come out of the gates. We're going to come out. We're going to come out of the corner swinging. I mean, that's what we're going to do. Remember the Hearns Hagler fight?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. When Heard surprised everybody and just went all in against Hagler.

[John Harbaugh]

Yeah. Three round. I think it was a tko, maybe by. I think Hagler won it. Maybe, if I remember right, I was, I loved Hagler. I loved Hagler. Marvin, if he's out there, I love him. But Tommy Hearns is my guy. The, you know, the, the Motor City Hitman. Tommy Hearns, man, I, I love Tommy Hearns. He came out swinging, so that's what we plan on doing.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but he got knocked out, so you don't want to come out swinging like that.

[John Harbaugh]

I will come out swinging. We'll be throwing punches, you know, whatever happens, happens. Let the chips fly.

[Dan Patrick]

Let's go. Tougher division. AFC north or NFC East?

[John Harbaugh]

The AFC north has been the tougher division, you know, over the last 18 years. I would say that. I mean, I was in it. I know it was tougher going forward.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[John Harbaugh]

Now in the early, in the early 2000s, it was the NFC, it was the NFC East. I was in it then. You know where it's at. It's wherever you're at.

[Dan Patrick]

That's the toughest division.

[John Harbaugh]

It's wherever you live. And we'll be living in the NFC east. And it's a tough division. I mean, you got the Eagles who have been doing what they do for the last number of years. It's like Michigan, Ohio State. Back in the day when Bo Schemekler took over with my dad. You had to beat Ohio State if you were going to be great at Michigan. And that's what they did the very first year. And then the Cowboys. The Cowboys, the commanders, great rivalries, incredible stadiums, huge fan bases, nothing more. I tell you, there's no more exciting division than the NFC east and the New York Football Giants. You know, we're in it too. So we plan to make a statement. We plan to be there. We plan to show up for every single game. Dan, right on time.

[Dan Patrick]

What was it about the Giants job that attracted you the most?

[John Harbaugh]

I think probably, if I was being honest about it, the players, the players are really important in football. You got to have players, great players as a players game. It always has been a player's game, it always will be a player's game. Great coaches have taught me that over the years, so.

[Dan Patrick]

But having that franchise quarterback, how important was that? That if you're, you're surveying the situation here. Of all the openings, how important was it that you had Jackson dart?

[John Harbaugh]

Yeah, it starts with the quarterback. I mean, the players started with the quarterback. You build a team around the quarterback that. I looked at that like the first thing I did was look at all the quarterbacks. And there are some good quarterbacks on these Teams. But Jackson was the guy that really excited me when I saw him. Now even more so being around him every day. We were in here. We were in here last night. He was hanging out. He's working out. I think he worked out at 9 o'. Clock. So I saw him around the building and talk some ball with him. So it was great.

[Dan Patrick]

What's the best piece of coaching advice your dad gave you?

[John Harbaugh]

The best piece of a coaching advice our dad gave us. He said, you know what he said? He said, you got to work really hard. You got to work harder than everybody else. He goes, because I know you two guys and you're really not that smart. You're probably not going to outsmart anybody, so you got to outwork people. That's a direct quote. That's exactly what he said.

[Dan Patrick]

Wait. He said you and Jim were not smart, so you got to outwork who's smarter between you two?

[John Harbaugh]

Jim's the smartest guy I know. Jim's the smartest. He's the smartest coach in the league. Total credit to Jim for smarts. Street smarts, emotional smarts. Knows how to. Knows how to make. Knows how to make a statement, make people feel a certain way. Funny dude. Yeah. You know him?

[Dan Patrick]

What do you do better than him?

[John Harbaugh]

I do. I beat him in golf the last time we played. But that was like 10 years ago. We refused to play each other. We refuse. I mean golf, we've got time for it. But what do I do better than Jim? I look younger than Jim right now. Can we all agree on that? You know, neither one of us are that young, but I look younger than him.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. How much?

[John Harbaugh]

Okay.

[Dan Patrick]

What's the age. What's the age difference?

[John Harbaugh]

I'm 15 months older.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. And I'm sure you remind him of them.

[John Harbaugh]

See? See? You would have never guessed that. Right, Pat? You would have never guessed.

[Dan Patrick]

No, no. Just don't color your hair, okay?

[John Harbaugh]

No, you can see.

[Dan Patrick]

I know. I'm just saying. Just don't do that.

[John Harbaugh]

Yeah, you look.

[Nancy Glass]

You.

[John Harbaugh]

You are. You are very. You look very distinguished. You're a gentleman. You know, you look very wise, dude.

[Dan Patrick]

But that's distinguished. That's the gray hair. That. When you have gray hair, you're. You're wise, you're distinguished. I think it comes along with that.

[John Harbaugh]

I like the lumberjack shirt you're wearing, too. Nice and warm. Looks cozy. Good spot. Fireplace in the background. Who's got it better than you, Dan?

[Dan Patrick]

Nobody.

[John Harbaugh]

Nobody for a living. Talking about crotch gate. Best job ever. I want that job.

[Dan Patrick]

When did you reach out to Mike McDonald?

[John Harbaugh]

I reached out to him after the game, Right after the game. I started texting him right away. I haven't been able to get him on the phone yet, but I will, I will. Jay either they're busy, they've got parades to do, they got shows to do.

[Dan Patrick]

Wait, wait. He hasn't gotten back to yet. Wow.

[John Harbaugh]

He's been busy. He's been busy, but he's. He's texted back. He texted back right away.

[Dan Patrick]

Do you. Did you realize that he, like he was capable of doing this at a young age, calling the defensive plays in the super bowl as a head coach?

[John Harbaugh]

Well, I mean, I hired him as a defensive coordinator and defensive play caller, so that was. That's always the plan. You know, you want, you want. I want my defensive coordinator calling defenses in the Super Bowl. That's definitely the goal. And there. I never had any doubt about Mike. Others did. I didn't. And Mike didn't. You know, and Mike is. Mike is confident, smart, just a good person. Hard worker. He's the guy. He's a hard worker and he's smart. He's got, he's got two for two going there. So. And look, look what happened. I mean, I'm just so couldn't be more proud of him. And also Jay Harbaugh, our nephews, a special teams coordinator. They've won games on special teams, multiple games, because of special teams and because of what Jay's done. So those guys, I mean, there's other guys. Leslie Frazier's on that staff. Leslie, such a great leader. He's helping Mike. So yeah, it's an amazing job they've.

[Dan Patrick]

Done the kicker and the punter. I mean, what a, what a weapon for Seattle. When you talk about a total team effort to win a Super Bowl. They had it. They had it. Unbelievable.

[John Harbaugh]

They trade for the returner who's also a receiver at, in this mid season there, and people are like scratching their head about that trade. And look at. He made a difference for him.

[Dan Patrick]

When's the last time you talked to your quarterback and your former quarterback in Baltimore?

[John Harbaugh]

You know what? We. We've texted a number of times. We haven't talked on the phone. You know, just having a chance to do that. But I haven't talked to really anybody on the phone. I had like over 2500 texts, which is crazy. I'm still, I'm down under three. I'm down under 400 now. I haven't cracked getting back to people, but it's been. Been amazing. But no, we texted Great love for Lamar. Really, everybody there, Great love for him.

[Dan Patrick]

When you were first let go, I had somebody say right away that it'll be between the Giants and the Falcons for you, that those were the two jobs that you'd be interested in. Was that fair? Accurate?

[John Harbaugh]

I was interested in both those jobs, but not just those two. I talked to everybody. And you really realize, Dan, when you talk to people in this circumstance, which I don't necessarily recommend, but it was really incredible to talk to the people at every organization, the owners, the GMs, team presidents, all that. There's so many great people in this league. You go to the owner's meeting, you've been there, and you get into that group. That. That football's a huge, you know, stage, but it's a small circle. And you get in that group and you. And you realize that, you know, we all have the same things. We're all fighting the same fights. We all fight in the same battles. We all have the same concerns. We're just trying to do our best. Families, the kids are running around, and you. And you feel that kind of sense of, I don't know, just a shared understanding for what you do. But then you talk to them about their job and you realize how important it is to them, what they're trying to accomplish, and you try to visualize yourself in that job with them. And really, I could visualize myself in every one of those jobs with every one of the groups I talk to. You really can do that because there's so many good people, and every job in this league is amazing.

[Dan Patrick]

What'd you do with your Ravens gear?

[John Harbaugh]

I kept a little. I kept a couple things. Some of the nicer stuff. Yeah, I kept a couple. A couple of quarter zips. Kept a couple championship hats.

[Dan Patrick]

What are you going to do with them?

[John Harbaugh]

Well, someday I'll. You know, there's cover. I got a good. A good hoodie that I really liked. I kept that. An insulated hand pocket. I don't know. I mean, you can't get rid of good stuff.

[Dan Patrick]

Now.

[John Harbaugh]

All the other stuff, I. I tossed. I mean, I didn't toss. I gave it to friends and Goodwill. Goodwill made it. Kelly. Goodwill guy. We stopped accepting our stuff at one point.

[Dan Patrick]

Not.

[John Harbaugh]

Not Raven stuff, but they took all the Raven stuff. But some of the other stuff, they're like, we've got it. We have enough. We don't want any more.

[Dan Patrick]

Congrats. Good luck and thanks. Yeah, let's see if you can pull off a Mike Vrabel there with the Gman.

[John Harbaugh]

I appreciate that. Dan. Great seeing you as always. You're the best. You're awesome. We did it. We did a show, remember, in Minnesota.

[Dan Patrick]

We did a show again, how cold it was. You did great with that super bowl coverage because, you know, you go in there and you're like, ah, just tell me what to do and I'll answer the questions when you ask. But we were outside there for a little while in Minnesota and we spent, you know, we spent some quality time together there.

[John Harbaugh]

We did. We, we had that. We didn't huddle close together to stay.

[Todd]

Warm, but we could have.

[John Harbaugh]

It was cold, man. Yes, but you were a great teacher. You were a great teacher, a great leader. You were great at what you do. I'm just an honor to be on the show with you, man. I appreciate it.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, buddy. Who has it better than we do? Nobody. Thank you, coach. That's John Harbaugh, the Giants head coach. He was with the Ravens for 18 seasons, won a Super bowl as well. Yeah, I had to ask the merchandise, the swag, because Paulie always wants to know, hey, what are you doing with all of your gear from your former team and the fact that, like, when do you wear out your Raven stuff if you're still the head coach of the Giants? Hey, it's. I got a nice hoodie here. You can't wear it. We'll take a break here. We'll get to your phone calls coming up. Mike Tirico will join us from the Winter Olympics coming up next hour. Back after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app.

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[Dan Patrick]

This month, iHeartRadio is celebrating the stars of the 2026 Winter Games. Born and raised in Torrance, California, Chloe Kim returns to the halfpipe to make history. After dominating the last two Olympics, she drops into the Milano Cortina pipe, aiming for an unprecedented third consecutive gold medal. With her signature massive air and technical double corks, she remains the undisputed queen of the sport. Kim is ready to prove once again that the road to the podium goes through her. For more Winter Games gold search olympics on the iHeartRadio app, I'm Bowen Ying.

[Matt Rogers]

And I'm Matt Rogers. During this season of the Two Guys Five Rings podcast, in the lead up to the Milan Cortina 2026 Winter Olympic Games, we've been joined by some of our friends.

[Dan Patrick]

Hi, Bud.

[John Harbaugh]

Hi, Matt.

[Matt Rogers]

Hey, Elmo.

[Dan Patrick]

Hey, Matt. Hey, Bowen.

[Hope Woodard]

Hi, Cookie.

[Dan Patrick]

Hi.

[Matt Rogers]

Now the Winter Olympic Games are underway and we are in Italy to give you experiences from our hearts to your ears. Listen to Two Guys Five Rings on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

What if mind control is real?

[Dan Patrick]

If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have?

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car?

[Caller/Listener]

When you look at your car, you're.

[Dan Patrick]

Gonna become overwhelmed with such good feelings.

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you?

[John Harbaugh]

I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused.

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

Can you get someone to join your cult?

[Dan Patrick]

NLP was used on me to access my subconscious.

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

Nlp, AKA Neuro Linguistic Programming, is a blend of hypnosis, linguistics and psychology. Fans say it's like finally getting a user manual for your brain.

[Dan Patrick]

It's about engineering consciousness.

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

Mind Games is the story of nlp. It's called Crazy Cast of Disciples and the Fake Doctor who invented it at a New age commune and sold it to guys in suits. He stood trial for murder and got acquitted. The biggest mind game of all, nlp, might actually work.

[Dan Patrick]

This is wild.

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

Listen to mind Games on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Hope Woodard]

What is one thing about love you've had to unlearn? That it's earned. That it needs to be forever for it to count. February is the month of love. Whether you're in a relationship, casually dating, or proudly single, it's a great time to reflect on yourself and what you want. I'm Hope Woodard, host of the Boy Sober podcast, and each week this month we're looking at love from every angle. I don't know how to tell my partner, like, what I want in bed.

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

The thing about romantic fiction, I would say more than any other genre of culture, is that it's always put women first.

[Hope Woodard]

My marriage stopped making sense. The connection started to feel off. The behavior started to feel different. This February, get in touch with yourself by listening to Boy Sober. That's B o y S o B e R. I'm like, I would love to not hate the man I'm sleeping with. I don't know what that's about. Listen to Boy Sober on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nancy Glass]

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[Dan Patrick]

Get a couple of phone calls in there. Yeah, John Harbaugh worked the super bowl in Minneapolis with me and did a great job and he came in the way. And I said this before about Tony Dungy and Rodney Harrison. You're a rookie and don't act like you know tv. You know football, but you don't know tv. I'll help you with the TV part of it. You take care of the football part. And John was great. And it was cold. They had us outside for, I don't know, maybe an hour for the pre game. So it was eight hours. And then we had to get a police escort to take us to the stadium where we got to continue with the pre game. But that was a long day. Long day. Then you had to do halftime. Then I had to hand out the super bowl trophy post show. I was exhausted because that started at like 7 in the morning and went till midnight. But it was, you know, really rewarding that you get to host the pregame show and you get to hand out the super bowl trophy. Very, very lucky to be able to do that. James in Cincinnati. Hi James. What's on your mind today? What up?

[Caller/Listener]

DP6 1, a slender one 90. Just wanted to call and see if I could put in my application for the Dead Dads Club. I lost my dad week and we used to Always watch your show on the audience network and listen to it on the radio on road trips. And so I just wanted to give a shout out to Pistol Pete Mortimer, and hopefully we're gonna have some beers for him today. I hope you guys do as well on your meat Friday.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, James, and welcome to the club. The Dead Dads Club. T shirts [e-mail]. yes.

[Matt Rogers]

And I don't really think there's an application process. I think you're automatically entered.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

There's no paperwork. There's no any. You have to show id. None of that. You're just in.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. You qualify when your dad dies.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, we don't even check records or anything. You're just in.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't even know if you know somebody's dad has died, but people are really. I was saying they're dying to get into the club, but that's not what I meant, Todd. I wasn't trying to be.

[Todd]

They're not. They're not insensitive.

[Dan Patrick]

No, I'm not trying to be. Yes.

[Dylan]

Dylan, do you think anyone's lied to get their way?

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know that. I don't know that. I. We. You know, the I team is normally on this kind of stuff, but. Yeah, I told Paulie, let's worry about other things.

[Matt Rogers]

That would be a big problem if there was some type of Dead Dad's Club fraud happening. I would be upset about that. It's not. It's not that great of a club to get into. I'm guessing I'm not in it, but I'm not, like, in a rush to get in it. I wouldn't fake it to get in there.

[Dylan]

I. I'm with Seaton on that one. I think I'll enjoy him while he's still around.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Todd, Part of the Dead Dads Club. Yes, I am.

[Todd]

Is there a window of time we have to wait from the. From the moment your dad passes to contacting us or getting that shirt in the mail? How does that work?

[Dan Patrick]

Well, no, he said that they used to listen and watch the show and he died last week. And probably turning on the show and brings back the memories of watching with his dad until there's a cat.

[Todd]

Hey, Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

Frank from Georgia.

[Todd]

Thanks for having me. I just want to let you know.

[Dan Patrick]

Moments ago, what do we think the shortest?

[Dylan]

I think someone called in and like, they were like, my dad died last night. Can I be in the club? Yeah, I think that actually happened.

[Dan Patrick]

And that's okay. You know, we all grieve in different ways. And then, you know, if we can provide some kind of laughter, some warmth, welcoming. Come on in. The Dead Dads Club. Marvin's in it. Paulie's in it. Fritz, he's in it. I'm in it. It's. It's a growing club, by the way.

[Matt Rogers]

Every day.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, every.

[Matt Rogers]

Every day. Gross.

[Dylan]

At least that really just leaves me and Seaton in our own club, I guess.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but that's okay.

[Matt Rogers]

Alive Dad's Club.

[Dan Patrick]

Dad's club.

[Matt Rogers]

The very underappreciated Alive Dad's Club. No wreck gets no rec.

[Dan Patrick]

You're right.

[Matt Rogers]

Recognition on this show.

[Dan Patrick]

We don't have a T shirt made up for the Alive Dad. Yeah. The adc.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, Nobody talks about the adc.

[Todd]

I desperately want to be in that club, but it's just too late.

[Dan Patrick]

Adc, Nate. Enrichment. Good morning, Nate. What's on your mind today?

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, Dan. And Dan. That six feet clean mean 185. Shout out to Jonathan Wesley. I know you're listening. I know we talked about tanking a lot, but I have a resolution that I know and hear no one's really talking about. They're looking to expand the league, whether it's a G league and a European hosh posh. So what they should do is go European style as well. And the bottom two teams would get regulated to the next league. And the top two leagues of the European G League, hosh bosh league. Would move up to the NBA.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, that won't happen, but they're going to have expansion in Seattle and Las Vegas. I like relegation in college football, but, you know, you have these cities and the amount of money the infrastructure takes to be able to build these stadiums, everything around those stadiums. And then all of a sudden, if you got relegated college football, you could do that. I saw where North Dakota State, they're. They're joining the big boys.

[Matt Rogers]

That's big news.

[Dan Patrick]

I. I was kind of surprised at that because it allowed them, when they were winning all those championships that, you know, people would focus on you because you ended up winning your last game. You won a championship there. You know, it might have been, you know, fbs, but still you ended up winning a championship. You stood out because of that. And now are they joining the Mountain West?

[Matt Rogers]

That is massive, massive news.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yes, Dylan.

[Dylan]

Well, would you rather be like big fish, small pond, or make the leap? Because they've had a pretty good time dunking on everyone in the FCS for a while. Yeah, but more money comes with it, too, I think.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but their schedule, they weren't Afraid to, you know, schedule a game with Minnesota or some of these other, you know, Division 1 programs. But yeah, I, I, I don't know that, that, that one's tricky because yes, you do want to be part of big time college football, but it felt like they were part of big time college football because they weren't afraid to play anybody and they would end up winning championships. It's like Mount Union in Division 3. Mount Union in Ohio had an incredible run winning championships, but that opportunity to elevate your program, you're probably not going to end your season with a victory unless it's in a bowl game instead of a national title game. Wes in Boise. Hi, Wes. What's on your mind today? Hi.

[Caller/Listener]

62210. So in order to kind of ditch the tanking, I think we need to incentivize owners. Owners is where the buck falls. And if you give owners a 10 year window to say, hey, if your team's not successful, you're in the bottom five for consecutive years, you're forced to sell the team.

[Dan Patrick]

Paulie came up with this idea that we're going to give you 10 years and if you don't make the playoffs in the 10 years, then you have to sell a team. That wouldn't go over well. But I do, I do. Like incentivizing the owner. Like, why do I have to incentivize an owner to try to win? Hey, no tanking there, all right? I promise I won't.

[Matt Rogers]

Especially when the whole league is set up for maximum stability for owners. They are, they are at zero risk of ever, anything bad ever happening to them whatsoever. A new team pops up, we get a huge chunk of money. This people win, we get a big chunk of money. There's revenue sharing every, the sports leagues are made as comfortable as possible for billionaires. And then at the very minimum, all we ask is can you just at least try to be competitive as a team? And they're like, I don't know that I can, I really don't know that we can do that. I'm sorry. Too much on the line.

[Dan Patrick]

Josh in Texas. Hi, Josh. Yeah, nobody loses money owning a team.

[Matt Rogers]

No, no, no, they don't. They're all making money and they're just not. I don't know that we can do something fan friendly. I don't know.

[Dan Patrick]

Hey, Josh.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, how are you?

[Dan Patrick]

Great.

[Caller/Listener]

Well, one of the other callers kind of stole my, my idea, but the relegation idea about the EPL maybe relegating down to the G League or whatever, but they Seem to have, like, really good ideas. And the other one is, you know, if you don't spend enough money on your team. I like the idea that you guys just mentioned about. It's kind of like the premise of F1, right? He was going to lose his team if they didn't win or get points or whatever. And then my other thing was, I think it's long overdue. Do we need a shirt that says, who has it better than we do? And on the back it says nobody.

[Dan Patrick]

We do have that shirt now. I don't know if it's available [e-mail] but I wore it while we're in San Francisco, and it says, who has it better than we do? And then on the back it says nobody. Ryan in Nashville. Hi, Ryan. Morning.

[Caller/Listener]

Got an idea about how to fix the Pro Bowl.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, okay.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, we do. Let's do a 180. I'm gonna get your thoughts on this. Instead of doing the Pro bowl, we'll have the Pro bowl, you know, designation. Like, you make the Pro bowl like you're, you know, like you're an All Pro. But for the Pro bowl game, make it for the reserves voted on by your. Your teammates. You have to play less than X amount of snapshots. These guys are going to be wanting to play. They're going to be hungry, put it.

[Dan Patrick]

On tv.

[Caller/Listener]

You know, and let the guys that want to play play. And that should be fun, right?

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know if people are going to want to tune in to see Tommy Cutlets play quarterback or something like that. But, you know, I guess there's no bad idea, considering what the alternative is. But I. As Seton has said before, they don't matter because they shouldn't matter. Like, the game's okay. It's okay that it's not competitive. It's okay if somebody's not playing defense. Like, it's all right. I mean, we're asking them to play hard. That's not going to happen.

[Matt Rogers]

It doesn't mean anything.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Why would we play hard? You know, it's not a complicated, like.

[Dan Patrick]

Theory, you know, and you can't go, hey, you're gonna make. Like, what do you make if you win the All Star Game? Do you make 50,000? Or is it more than that?

[Todd]

Something like that. 100,000. But what does that matter to somebody that's making $80 million a year?

[Dan Patrick]

Lucas in Texas. Hi, Luke. What's on your mind? Hey, Dan.

[Caller/Listener]

Good morning.

[Dan Patrick]

Good morning.

[Caller/Listener]

You know, we have a lot of fun with Fritzi, especially around Friday the 13th or any holiday that wants him to make up names. I want to give two quick reasons why Dan Nation loves Todd so much, and they both. They both come through in the replays that y' all do on the commercial breaks on Peacock. So allow me two of them real quick. The first one, sometimes I have the closed caption on, and I had it muted for some reason I can't remember. But I just remember looking briefly at the computer screen during commercial break, and all I saw was Fritzi, a mechanical bull, and the word stop written about 50 times on the screen. And it's a great moment. Loved it. It's always Alzheimer's. The other one, you actually just showed it on today's show, and I love it. It's when Fritzi was doing the calendar shoot of the car wash. Yeah. The fun is not so much with Fritzing the car wash. It's, I believe, the current backroom guy of the year, Jay, whose job is to spray Fritzi. And there is a look on that man's face of, how did my life lead to this?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Jay is the big German's brother. And we were doing a calendar shoot, and we thought we would have Fritzi in a tank top and short shorts, and he would be on the car kind of writhing, and Jay would have to water down Todd, and he's smoking a cigarette. He's holding the hose, and he's watering Fritzi down. You know, there are times when I watch. If you watch on Peacock during the commercial break and we show all this archival footage, the guys in the back, they do. Rob does a wonderful job with this, make them timely. And there are times when I go, I don't remember that, because this is almost 20 years that we've been doing this. And there are so many moments where I go, I don't remember that. But usually with Todd, I do remember.

[Todd]

And Jay was into it a lot more than he let on. I don't care what his facial expressions or how many cigarettes he was smoking. He gave me a little wink.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yes, Dylan.

[Dylan]

There was also another video around that time with Jay where you took the pie for the calendar, and at the end, you just go, it's all about content, Jay.

[Dan Patrick]

And he's goes, right. Jay has lived an interesting life. He has lived and. And has some of the best quotes around here because he. He has no respect for what we do, because, as he says, all you do is turn on a microphone and talk. And he's right. That's what we do. I mean, there's A little bit more to that. He goes, you can't even tar a roof. And. And he's right. I can't tar a roof. But he. He has some great quotes. Yes. Marvin.

[Todd]

He doesn't have respect for our names either.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, he doesn't know. He didn't know Seaton's name. He didn't know your name. There's, like, a couple of guys. What did he call you?

[Todd]

Melvin. Oh, I'm so bad with names.

[John Harbaugh]

A Mark.

[Dylan]

Hey, Mark.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. And then Seaton. I don't think he knew your name either.

[Matt Rogers]

No, no, he's. That happens a lot to me, though. A lot of people call me, like, Sexton or Senton or. I don't even know the name Senton. I don't know where that comes from. But Sex.

[Dylan]

Sexton came from Jay.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. He called you Sexton? Yes, Todd.

[Todd]

I like every once in a while, so, you know, people show up, and when we do these remotes, and they say how much they love the show and watch all the time, and then they'll shake my hand and say, how's it going, Paulie? And say, what's going on? Marvin's like, really?

[Dan Patrick]

There was an actor.

[Matt Rogers]

I do get confused for Marvin a lot.

[John Harbaugh]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

It happens more than you think.

[Dan Patrick]

There was an actor who wanted to be on the show this a long time ago, and he came into the studio in New York, and he's like, what? What? And he said that he was a big fan of the show, and he was like, what's. What are these guys like? What are they doing?

[Todd]

I was part of the pitch from, like, the publicist. You got to get this guy on if you're gonna be in New York. He loves you guys.

[Dan Patrick]

And then he didn't even realize that you guys were the Dan. He didn't know anything about the show. That's where the PR person's like, oh, man. He loves and he never misses the show.

[Todd]

I'm not sure he knew your name either, which made it.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't think he did.

[Todd]

Comfortable.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't think he did.

[Todd]

Gotta at least know the host name. Come on, help us out.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I know. Chuck in Chicago. Hi, Chuck. What's on your mind today?

[Caller/Listener]

Hello, Pat. Can I talk to Dan?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, this is. This is. This is Kali McCallan, your favorite part of me and favorite podcast listener. I want to tell you, the super bowl show was outstanding. I mean, just guest after guest, but who knew? CD Lamb was so funny. He was outstanding.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Caller/Listener]

And I want to tell you that this is a Frank Caliendo was awesome as always. But in his visit prior to this, and by the way, his Todd is getting better, so he invite in the. In the visit prior to this, he said, he said, you know, you watch the mouth and the eyes. And he said with Todd, he feels like he's eating his own face.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, that's how he described his impersonation of Fritzi, that he's eating his face. Thank you. Chuck Calando's great. He's a lot of fun. But, you know, there are times, though, it's hard to talk to him and just talk to him because eventually it leads into, you know, John Gruden, Morgan Freeman. John, man, you're like, I. Hey, I'm just talking to Frank here. Yes, Todd.

[Todd]

And then, boom, the segment's over. Then you make me leave the next segment. Go, go.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, we take a break here. More phone calls coming up. Busy final hour. We'll talk to the person who is calling the All Star game. He's Noah Eagle. Then BC he'll join us and Mike Trico will join us from the Winter Olympics. We're back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. I'm Bowen Yang.

[Matt Rogers]

And I'm Matt Rogers. During this season of the Two Guys Five Rings podcast, in the lead up to the Milan Cortina 2026 Winter Olympic Games, we've been joined by some of our friends.

[Dan Patrick]

Hi, Bud. Hi, Matt.

[Matt Rogers]

Hey, Elmo.

[Dylan]

Hey, Matt.

[Dan Patrick]

Hey, Bowen.

[Hope Woodard]

Hi, Cookie.

[Dan Patrick]

Hi.

[Matt Rogers]

Now the Winter Olympic Games are underway and we are in a Italy to give you experiences from our hearts to your ears. Listen to Two Guys Five Rings on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

What if mind control is real?

[John Harbaugh]

If you could control the behavior of.

[Dan Patrick]

Anybody around you, what kind of life would you have?

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car?

[Caller/Listener]

When you look at your car, you're gonna become overwhelmed with such good feelings.

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you?

[John Harbaugh]

I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused.

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

Can you get someone to join your cult?

[Dan Patrick]

NLP was used on me to access my subconscious.

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

Nlp, AKA Neuro linguistic programming, is a blend of hypnosis, linguistics, and psychology. Fans say it's like finally getting a user manual for your brain.

[Dan Patrick]

It's about engineering consciousness.

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

Mind Games is the story of nlp, its crazy cast of disciples and the fake Doctor who invented it at a New Age commune and sold it to guys in suits. He stood trial for murder and got acquitted. The biggest mind game of all NLP might actually work.

[Dan Patrick]

This is wild.

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

Listen to mind Games on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nancy Glass]

I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season two podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumprite became the victim of a random crime.

[Dan Patrick]

He pulls the gun, tells me to.

[Caller/Listener]

Lie down on the ground.

[Nancy Glass]

He identified Jermaine Hudson as the perpetrator. Jermaine was sentenced to 99 years.

[Todd]

I'm like, lord, this can't be real. I thought it was a mistaken identity.

[Dan Patrick]

The best lie is partial truth.

[Nancy Glass]

For 22 years, only two people knew the truth. Until a confession changed everything.

[John Harbaugh]

I was a monster.

[Nancy Glass]

Listen to Burden of guilt season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Hope Woodard]

What is one thing about love you've had to unlearn? That it's earned, that it needs to.

[Dan Patrick]

Be forever for it to count.

[Hope Woodard]

February is the month of love. Whether you're in a relationship, casually dating, or proudly single, it's a great time to reflect on yourself and what you want. I'm Hope Woodard, host of the Voiceover podcast. And even each week this month, we're looking at love from every angle. I don't know how to tell my partner, like, what I want in bed.

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

The thing about romantic fiction, I'd say more than any other genre of culture, is that it's always put women first.

[Hope Woodard]

My marriage stopped making sense. The connection started to feel off. The behavior started to feel different. This February, get in touch with yourself by listening to Voiceover. That's b o y s o be. I'm like, I would love to not hate the man I'm sleeping with. I don't know what that's about. Listen to Boy Sober on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On June 11, 1998, a deputy from.

[Dan Patrick]

The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department went missing. It's an allout manhunt for John Ajay.

[Hope Woodard]

Every search and rescue team in LA county has been called in to help.

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

Within days, tips started flooding into the sheriff's department.

[Hope Woodard]

The rumor around the drug scene was.

[Caller/Listener]

That a deputy was taken care of.

[Hope Woodard]

Is this the story of a man.

[Dan Patrick]

Who just got lost in the desert?

[Hope Woodard]

Or of a cover up inside the nation's largest sheriff's department.

[Stugots]

A homicide captain saying, detective, do not find out if this guy's guilty or innocent.

[Dan Patrick]

Who does that?

[Hope Woodard]

Valley of Shadows, a new series from.

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

Pushkin Industries about crime and corruption in California's high desert.

[Hope Woodard]

Do you have any advice for us.

[Dan Patrick]

While looking into this disappearance?

[John Harbaugh]

I wouldn't do it alone.

[Hope Woodard]

Listen to Valley of shadows on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

Best week in sports. Let's go around the room. Who had the best week in sports? Todd, I'll start with you.

[Todd]

This might be lame because it's too easy, but I think Sam Dar away with it. But hopefully you guys have something more creative than that one.

[Dan Patrick]

Why didn't you come up with something more creative?

[Todd]

Because I just. I kept thinking about it and I couldn't think of anyone other than Sam Darl because it's Sam Darnold. So I'm going to just say Sam Darnold again.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. But you do have your Valentine's Day sports names, correct, which will be less.

[Todd]

Lame than my choice of Sam Darling.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, Seon. Best week in sports.

[Matt Rogers]

Possibly equally as lame, but maybe not quite as much, But Kenjamin Walker III Jr III, that fella made himself a bunch of money, got himself a Super Bowl MVP as a running back, which almost never happens in this sort of modern age. And as he's looking at a new contract, that is well done, fella.

[Dan Patrick]

I hope he gets paid. Heck, yeah. I hope he gets paid.

[Matt Rogers]

Heck, yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Marvin mine might be a bit random.

[Todd]

I'm gonna go. Julius Irving. I've seen him promoting the ABA documentary Soul Power. I watched the first half of it. Unbelievable. It gives people a chance to see the real Julius Irvin. I think the aba. So Julius Irvin's my pick.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. People didn't get to see the real Julius Irving by the time he got to the NBA in the aba, he was every bit what Jordan was and then some. I mean, he. He was dunking on people in traffic. He. Now, he did that when he was with the 76ers, but to see him in person. I only saw him in person one time in the aba, but I just remember in traffic, him dunking. He wasn't a great shooter, but he didn't have to be. He took it to the hoop and he was going to make you pay. He's going to. You know, we didn't know it was called being posterized back then. We just knew that. What's that fool doing trying to block Dr. J. And what A nice person too. He's always, you know the fact that he allowed me during the NBA finals in Utah with the Bulls and we played golf and there was a backup like the 15th tee and there was a basketball court right on the other side of the tee box. And I said, hey, let's go shoot. And so I lowered it to nine feet and I said, doc, would you stand underneath with your hands up and let me dunk on you?

[Caller/Listener]

And he did.

[Dan Patrick]

Kind of sad on my part that I'm, I'm asking doc and I have to bring it down to nine feet. And then he allowed me to dunk on him. Dylan, best week in sports.

[John Harbaugh]

All right.

[Dylan]

Then Montana linebacker Solomon Tulia Poopoo getting his ninth year of eligibility granted the real Van Wilder football.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, you got Trinidad Chambliss is going back to Ole Miss. Imagine having lawyers argue for you to not go into the NFL draft.

[Dylan]

So weird.

[Dan Patrick]

He'll make more money at Ole Miss than he will be in a third round draft pick. And he's going back for his sixth year, so congratulations. Yes.

[Todd]

Todd, Assuming they go to class. Imagine being in a class and you're 25 years old and there's like 18 year olds around you. Don't you feel at some point like maybe it's time to move on with my life to the next chapter?

[Dan Patrick]

Well, you know, there's so much money to be made with Nil and if you can delay going to the NFL, I mean, Diego Pavia would love to go back to Vandy because, you know, he's not even 6ft tall. And is he going to be able to play in the NFL? Yeah, I can make a lot of money at Vanderbilt and go back there for another year or so. Jay in Indianapolis. Hi, Jay. What's on your mind today?

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, Dan, thanks for taking my call. Love the show. Love, Dan. That's just all the talk about the NBA. I have an idea for a shirt for a T shirt for the show. Might be a first. It would be a tank top with an NBA logo that just says thanks for nothing. Oh, thanks.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, so the tank top with tanking NBA might discourage us from using their logo though I'm guessing Dylan in San Diego. Hi, Dylan.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, what's up, dp? Since you love love, I could really use your help right now. I recently asked my girlfriend, hey, would it be all right if I played golf Saturday morning? And I got to tell you, it did not go over well. And she immediately fired back and said, how about you just go with your boyfriends? And so I got to know, was that the right question to ask? Should I have not even asked it at all? Like, what's your. What's. What's. What's your logic, D.P.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I've only been married 38 years, so I'm. I would say, hey, I'm gonna go play golf with my boyfriends, but I'm gonna spend the rest of the day and night with you, my girlfriend. And you treat her like a. Like a queen. But as I said yesterday, I think we gotta start taking back Valentine's Day a little bit. Like, you know, equal. Equal rights here, you know? Right, Todd?

[Todd]

Yeah. But you have to at least tell her, you know, we're gonna go out for a nice dinner, give her an idea about that. You do have evening plans. You're acknowledging Valentine's Day, this day, affair in the morning, we're gonna play some golf, and then the rest of the day we'll be together and do something romantic. You gotta say that as part of a deal.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. You can't just go, hey, I'm gonna play golf.

[Stugots]

See you later.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Seaton.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. My wife lately has been doing the, like, the preemptive. We're not doing anything for this. Right. Which I appreciate. I'm like, babe. I mean, yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

But then, I don't know, I'm gonna.

[Matt Rogers]

Get you the card and stuff like that.

[Dan Patrick]

Are you getting set up, though?

[Matt Rogers]

Nah, nah, I wouldn't get set up. I don't think that she would do that. But I always get her a little something.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

But she's like, we're not doing anything crazy. Right. Are we going to Caliendo?

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, you gonna go see?

[Matt Rogers]

I don't. You know, I don't know. I'm not sure I. I want to. I haven't been in contact with him, but I think the plan is a very romantic evening with Frank Caliendo.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. My wife and I. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, Dylan. Well, I feel like.

[Dylan]

I mean, it seems like Valentine's is more of like a nighttime holiday anyways, so, like, I feel like you can sneak in a quick nine or 18.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

Or if path of least resistance is just play on Sunday.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know if your wife or girlfriend wants to spend the whole day with you. Yeah.

[Dylan]

Like 8am T. Time.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm going to be honest with you. You know, sometimes makes the heart grow fonder. If you go out now, don't have beers when you're playing golf, and then come back. Well, no, no, don't do that. Just say, hey, I'M going to play 18 and then got plans. I got plans for us later on today. Today and tonight. Yes, Marva.

[Todd]

A good plan is a. Pay for her to go out on a spa day, get her hair done, get her nails done. Something like that. I mean, I don't do it, but if you wanted to, you should be able to do something like that. Nice.

[Dan Patrick]

Because you can say, hey, I set up something. I'm gonna go play golf. Why don't you go to the spa and then we'll meet for lunch and, I don't know, afternoon delight? Guest hunt.

[Todd]

My wife doesn't want to do anything on Valentine's Day, but she doesn't want to do anything on Valentine's Day, if you know what I mean. Can't even do a trade off. I'll give you chocolates and flowers and earrings after. There's just not even that. That's not up to discussion.

[Dan Patrick]

You poor guy.

[Todd]

Just throw under the bus. It's not that bad, but I'm just waiting for the next, like, you know.

[Dan Patrick]

Eclipse, and then, you know, like, I don't even ask. This is never asked of you. You volunteer all of this stuff.

[Todd]

I'll hear about it later, I'm sure.

[Dan Patrick]

Because I don't really want to know. No.

[Todd]

Who wants a picture of those kinds of things? Like picturing your parents. You don't want to know about that. I'm an immaculate conception.

[Dylan]

Todd would have been the biathlete who's like, I cheated on my wife three months.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Yeah.

[Dylan]

No one asked.

[Todd]

We're not doing anything for Valentine's Day. And I mean, we're not doing anything.

[John Harbaugh]

Fine.

[Dan Patrick]

Final hour. We'll head to the Winter Olympics, talk to Mike Tirico. Hope you'll join us. Final hour in this Meat Friday, right around the corner. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.