Hour 2 – Justin Tucker Has the Yips, Matt Leinart

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 2: Justin Tucker Has the Yips, Matt Leinart

Release Date: November 19, 2024

Host: Dan Patrick
Guest: Matt Leinert, Former Heisman Trophy Winner
Network: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network
Description: In this engaging episode, Dan Patrick delves deep into the current struggles of NFL kicker Justin Tucker, explores the evolving role of kickers in football, and features insightful discussions with former Heisman winner Matt Leinert. The episode also touches on team performances, personal anecdotes, and community initiatives, providing listeners with a comprehensive look at both on-field and off-field topics.

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1. Justin Tucker’s Struggles: The Yips?

Timestamp: [04:46]

Dan Patrick opens the discussion by addressing the surprising performance dip of Baltimore Ravens' kicker, Justin Tucker. Known for his unparalleled accuracy, Tucker has faced challenges this season, missing crucial kicks that have sparked conversations about the infamous “yips.”

Dan Patrick:
"Justin Tucker has not been good this season. You could make a case he might be recognized as the greatest kicker in NFL history, certainly with accuracy, but not with big kicks."
[04:46]

Matt Leinert:
"Justin Tucker’s consistency is usually what sets him apart, but this season has raised legitimate concerns."
[07:52]

2. The Role and Perception of Kickers in the NFL

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The conversation shifts to a broader analysis of the kicker position in the NFL, comparing Tucker to historical figures and discussing how kickers are often remembered more for their misses than their successes.

Dan Patrick:
"It's hard to make a name for yourself as a kicker. A lot of times, you live in infamy of, oh, that's the kicker who missed a big game-winning kick."
[06:14]

Matt Leinert:
"Being a kicker is one of the toughest positions. The pressure is immense because one kick can change everything."
[07:52]

3. Comparing Careers: Justin Tucker vs. Tony Romo

Timestamp: [11:03]

Dan engages the audience with a poll comparing the careers of Justin Tucker and former quarterback Tony Romo, sparking insightful debates on legacy, Hall of Fame prospects, and the differing pressures of their respective positions.

Dan Patrick:
"Whose career would you want, Todd? Justin Tucker or Tony Romo?"
[11:03]

Paulie:
"I'm going to go with Tony Romo."
[12:23]

Seton:
"I'm going to say Justin Tucker all day, actually."
[12:29]

4. Team Performance Analysis: Dallas Cowboys and Houston Texans

Timestamp: [05:44]

The discussion transitions to the performance of the Dallas Cowboys and Houston Texans, highlighting the Cowboys' defensive struggles at home and the Texans' surprising climb to a 7-4 record.

Dan Patrick:
"The Dallas Cowboys have been outscored 187 to 69 at home this season. And to give you context, the last team to be outscored by more points through the first five home games was the 2013 Jacksonville Jaguars."
[05:44]

Paulie:
"The Texans handling the Cowboys 34 to 10. Texans now 7 and 4. The Cowboys drop to 3 and 7."
[05:44]

5. Matt Leinert on the Evolution of Football

Timestamp: [22:26]

Matt Leinert provides a thoughtful analysis of how football has evolved over the years, particularly focusing on the changing dynamics of the quarterback position and the strategic shifts in modern offenses.

Matt Leinert:
"The game has really shifted from my personal style of play. You’ve got to be able to move, do a lot of other things in this day and age of football."
[22:26]

Dan Patrick:
"Are the days of the drop-back passer gone or kind of becoming extinct?"
[23:09]

6. Personal Anecdotes: Matt Leinert’s Experiences with Kobe Bryant

Timestamp: [32:07]

Matt Leinert shares heartfelt stories about his personal interactions with the late Kobe Bryant, highlighting their friendship and mutual respect, which adds a personal touch to the episode.

Matt Leinert:
"I met Kobe in Newport Beach through a mutual friend. We had conversations about football and life, and I really got to know him outside of the professional sphere."
[32:07]

Dan Patrick:
"Tell me what you're doing with Abbott. The We Give Blood drive in conjunction with the Big Ten."
[34:01]

7. Community Initiatives: Abbott’s Blood Drive Campaign

Timestamp: [34:06]

Highlighting Matt Leinert’s involvement in Abbott’s “We Give Blood” campaign, the episode underscores the importance of community service and the critical need for blood donations.

Matt Leinert:
"Abbott has partnered with all Big Ten schools to launch a competition to see who can donate the most blood. The school that donates the most blood gets a million dollars for advanced student or community health."
[34:06]

8. USC Football Update

Timestamp: [35:21]

Matt provides a concise update on the USC Trojans football team, discussing current challenges, expectations, and prospects for the upcoming games, reflecting his deep understanding of college football dynamics.

Matt Leinert:
"USC is in a challenging spot this year. The expectations are really high, and they need to build a championship team. There’s still stuff to play for, and some exciting opportunities ahead."
[35:21]

9. Interactive Segment: Dun, Dun, or I'm Back In

Timestamp: [45:36]

In a lively interactive segment, Dan and his guests play the game “Dun, Dun, or I’m Back In,” predicting whether certain teams can make the playoffs. This segment adds an entertaining and engaging element to the show.

Dan Patrick:
"Little curveball here. BYU football."
[45:36]

Seton:
"Dun, dun."
[46:03]

Paulie:
"I think the Celts are going to motivate Cleveland to their first loss."
[49:23]

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Dan Patrick on Justin Tucker’s Struggles:
  "Justin Tucker has not been good this season. You could make a case he might be recognized as the greatest kicker in NFL history, certainly with accuracy, but not with big kicks."
  [04:46]

• Matt Leinert on the Pressure of Kicking:
  "Being a kicker is one of the toughest positions. The pressure is immense because one kick can change everything."
  [07:52]

• Dan Patrick on the Legacy of Kickers:
  "It's hard to make a name for yourself as a kicker. A lot of times, you live in infamy of, oh, that's the kicker who missed a big game-winning kick."
  [06:14]

• Matt Leinert on Football Evolution:
  "The game has really shifted from my personal style of play. You’ve got to be able to move, do a lot of other things in this day and age of football."
  [22:26]

• Matt Leinert’s Anecdote on Kobe Bryant:
  "I met Kobe in Newport Beach through a mutual friend. We had conversations about football and life, and I really got to know him outside of the professional sphere."
  [32:07]

• Matt Leinert on Abbott’s Blood Drive:
  "Abbott has partnered with all Big Ten schools to launch a competition to see who can donate the most blood. The school that donates the most blood gets a million dollars for advanced student or community health."
  [34:06]

Conclusion:

In this episode of The Dan Patrick Show, listeners are treated to an in-depth exploration of Justin Tucker's unexpected performance issues, coupled with broader discussions on the role of kickers in football and the evolution of the quarterback position. Matt Leinert brings valuable insights from his experience, personal stories, and involvement in community initiatives, making for a well-rounded and engaging listen. Whether you’re a die-hard football fan or someone interested in the behind-the-scenes aspects of the sport, this episode offers a rich blend of analysis, personal anecdotes, and interactive segments that keep the conversation lively and informative.

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[Paulie]

No, there's no thought to that. I mean you have to find that competition first. Just if you're going to be blunt about it, you know, where is that competition? That would be one thing. And the best option right now is to Get Justin, you know, back on point where he worries because he's fully capable of doing it. Certainly haven't lost any confidence in Justin Tucker. You know, you saw that on the 54 yarder we sent him out for and he drilled it. So that's the Justin Tucker that he wants to see, that we all want to see on every kick. And he's definitely our best option.

[Dan Patrick]

Paulie, do you have Justin Tucker's numbers there this season?

[Marvin]

Like you said, from under 40, he's still spotless like he's always been his entire career. But if you go back 10 years ago, he kind of broke out in 2016. He was 10 of 10 from 50 plus, which put him on the map first team all pro. Last year he was 1 of 5 from 50 plus, so this is not kind of new. And this year he's three of seven from 50 plus, which was his thing. They used to say, like if they get it to the 38 yard line, the Ravens are set. And now that's no longer the case.

[Dan Patrick]

And it's hard to make a name for yourself as a kicker. A lot of times, you know, you live in infamy of, oh, that's the kicker who, you know, go back to Garo Yapremian, who played for the Dolphins and they played the Redskins, then Redskins in the super bowl and he tried to throw a pass. Mike Bass ended up picking it off, taking it back. I think the final score was 14 to 7. But you remember him for things like that. Scott Norwood, you remember him for the miss. But being a quarter of being a kicker and being remembered in a positive way, like Adam Vinatieri, I don't know what his regular season numbers are were. I just know game on the line. That's the guy I wanted to kick. Mark Moseley is remembered. He's a kicker. He won the MVP. I think that was maybe 1982 with the then Redskins because they were the highest scoring team and they gave it to a kicker. It's really hard to stand out. And it feels like in today's NFL everybody's making. Well, you had a 64 yarder last night taken off the board, by the way. But it just seems like they, they've gotten to a point where it's too easy. And now you got Justin Tucker, it's not too easy. And you'll have players who talk about, you know, the yips. We've seen the yips in baseball where Chuck Knoblock can't throw it to first base or Steve Sacks can't do it. Or Mackie Sasser can't throw it back to the pitcher. Golfers talk about that as well. The yips. I don't know if kickers have the yips, but certainly seems like that with Justin Tucker.

[Marvin]

Yes, Pauline, what's interesting about Justin Tucker is he's been around a while, but he's 35 years old, which really isn't old for a kicker. To put it in perspective, you talk about Adam Vinatieri. Vinatieri played till age 47. 35 was the exact midway point in his career. He made three more Pro Bowls after 35. He did not fade as a deep kicker until the very, very end for him.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, and maybe your range is a little more limited the older you get, which is understandable. But are you better in those pressure situations when, hey, we need you to make this 47 yarder game on the line. But the fact that we would even be or the media even bringing that up of would you bring in somebody is certainly pretty telling. By the way, the over under. I've been running down some of these. The over under. The Kansas City Chiefs right now, 14 and a half over, under 14 and a half. The Bills 12 and a half, the Lions 13 and a half right now. And Buffalo has a couple of tough games coming up, including playing the Lions and playing the Niners. Kansas City a couple of games. But I don't look at it as really that formidable. And I think they'll probably lose one more game. So they'd have three. And then did the Bills lose two? The Lions one loss right now. So they're expecting them to lose a few more here. But it feels like Lions are. And look, they haven't really separated from the Eagles. But if you want to host the NFC title game, this is where, you know, these games against teams that aren't very good or maybe they're not playing for anything. Those are sometimes dangerous games because you ease up on them, you don't think they're playing for anything, and then all of a sudden somebody gets squirrely and then you end up losing a game. Poll question for hour two. Seaton, what are you thinking about?

[Seton]

Yeah, let me update you on hour one here. We put up there the best bad team we had. The Dolphins, Bengals, Colts, Buccaneers. Okay, right now with 64% of the votes, not even really close. The Bengals. Second place, though, is more interesting between the Dolphins, Colts and Buccaneers. The Buccaneers have 20% of the vote.

[Dan Patrick]

How about that?

[Seton]

Nobody believes in the Colts.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but they're still in a playoff hunt, which is weird. In the afc, it's like, you know, the Colts and the Broncos, and it feels like the Broncos are a lot better than the Colts, but they're kind of both just hanging in there. Yes, Paulie. Oh, yes, Todd.

[Paulie]

Yeah. The Colts, I think, are in the eighth spot at 5 and 6, just one game behind Denver for that last spot in the seventh position.

[Dan Patrick]

Are you buying in to the Broncos?

[Paulie]

I am buying into the Broncos.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Seton]

Sounds like you're more leasing the Broncos than buying.

[Dan Patrick]

That. That's. You're not buying.

[Paulie]

They got a tough schedule yet, and they got to finish off with the Chiefs the last game of the year, so they got to go 4 and 2.

[Marvin]

The Chiefs will be. It'll be a third straight quarterback.

[Paulie]

I don't know if that's the case that they.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Paulie]

Give it their all.

[Seton]

Sounds like more like a rent to own situation than buying in.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Todd. Pie to the face, Broncos player.

[Seton]

Bottle the balls.

[Dan Patrick]

No, we're not. We're not doing that. No, not anymore.

[Seton]

Sorry.

[Dan Patrick]

Remember when we did flinch ball and Ron Burgundy. Ron Burgundy came in and Fritzie, I think, got him right in the sack of Joe.

[Seton]

Awesome.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, it was.

[Seton]

It's great.

[Dan Patrick]

And he didn't even flinch. Ron Burgundy did even flinch there. All right, some phone calls coming up. Once again, Matt Leinert will join us as well. So the poll question for hour two is going to be what Seton?

[Seton]

We got another one here from. We've got one actually here from Paul.

[Marvin]

Career.

[Seton]

I'd rather have Justin Tucker or Tony Romo. Interesting.

[Dan Patrick]

Paul came out of nowhere. Paul.

[Marvin]

Well, I was thinking about Justin Tucker's career. He's pretty famous for a kicker. He's definitely well paid. He's the highest paid kicker of all time. And he's going to the hall of Fame, which is really tough to do at that position. Or you could be a position player, a quarterback. But Tony Romo had a good career. Somewhat unsatisfied or unfulfilled, but he played quarterback. He's not in danger of going to the hall of Fame, even though he had a very good career.

[Dan Patrick]

Whose career would you want, Todd? Justin Tucker or Tony Romo at all, Paul? That old question.

[Paulie]

I'm going to go. Tony Romo.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, Seaton.

[Seton]

I'm going to say Justin Tucker all day, actually. All day.

[Dan Patrick]

But. But we're not factoring in that he's making $18 million a year from CBS. No, this is just your playing career.

[Marvin]

Playing career and playing pay, which, surprisingly, Justin Tucker is not far off from Tony Romo in playing Pay.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, but. But not post career.

[Marvin]

Correct.

[Dan Patrick]

Factoring in. Okay, Marvin, Tony Romo, Justin Tucker. Well, since we're leaving out the CBS career, Justin Tucker. Paulie, it feels like you're going Justin Tucker. This is why you brought up the poll question.

[Paulie]

Yeah.

[Marvin]

It's kind of close, though, because you want to be a starting quarterback who goes to some pro bowls as opposed to a kicker that's a specialist. But Tucker's going to the hall of Fame. He'll be remembered positively. Okay, bonus coverage. Anyone who want to play the Justin Tucker career salary game.

[Dan Patrick]

But I would take the Justin Tucker career over Tony Roma. How about Justin Tucker, Philip Rivers, Philip River, Todd. You hate Philip Rivers.

[Paulie]

Justin Tucker. I'll take Romo. But for switching it that way, I will go Justin Tucker over Philip River.

[Dan Patrick]

What about Justin Tucker over Matt Ryan? Oh, dude. Yikes.

[Matt Leinert]

Good grief.

[Dan Patrick]

Yikes. That's the toughie, Todd.

[Seton]

Matt Ryan is a career all career salary guy, though.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, yeah.

[Seton]

He did very well for himself.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Yes, he did. Todd, who you taking?

[Paulie]

I'm gonna go Justin Tucker. There.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, Seaton. Justin Tucker. Matt Ryan.

[Seton]

Um, you know, I don't know that I could live my whole life with that Super bowl explaining 28 to 3, you know, like. Like with Tony Romo, it was kind of like, well, his most famous play is fumbling a snap. I don't want to do that, you know. Okay, I think Justin Tucker.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, Marvin. Justin Tucker.

[Matt Leinert]

Paul.

[Dan Patrick]

Matt Ryan. Justin Tucker.

[Marvin]

This is tough. Ryan's got an mvp, Pro Bowls money. But I can't choose, like, Seaton to choose that pain. Tucker's got a Super bowl ring. I'm going Justin Tucker.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I'm going to go Justin Tucker. Because you know when you walk in the room that eventually somebody's going to say something about 28 to 3 or, you know, hey, what time is it? Oh, it's 28 to 3.

[Marvin]

Oh, God. You know, Matt Ryan should be allowed to punch one person a year. Like, there should be some type of disclaimer or hall pass where if one person walks up to Matt, he's a big dude, he should be allowed to drop one dude a year who says that stuff.

[Dan Patrick]

And he should be one of the coaches from the Falcons. Wow.

[Marvin]

Kyle Shanahan wasn't Matt's fault.

[Dan Patrick]

Come here, Kyle. I gotta punch you again this year.

[Seton]

Matt Ryan, at one point, made almost in a year Justin Tucker's career salary.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, wow. Okay. Career, salary, Justin Tucker.

[Marvin]

Let's go.

[Matt Leinert]

Salary.

[Marvin]

Celery.

[Dan Patrick]

Celery, Celery, Cele. Okay. Justin Tucker.

[Marvin]

I got two parts of this. I got to give you some hints here just to put it in perspective. Justin Tucker's been in the league since 2012. He's been there a long time. So we're going to go up to this point because he has three years remaining on his contract. But there's out after this year for the Ravens, by the way. Yikes.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, Todd. Justin Tucker, career salary 48.83 million. All right. I like that. Seton.

[Seton]

I already know what it is.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, okay. Marvin. 52.5 million, man. Okay, I'm gonna go 49. 9. Justin Tucker.

[Marvin]

I mean, I made it a slide rule or calculator because Dan and Marvin are really tight. 51,073,000 so far.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. All right.

[Marvin]

You guys are right in between it.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Okay.

[Marvin]

Checking.

[Dan Patrick]

We'll share the victory.

[Marvin]

He does have 4 million a year coming the next three years, but the Ravens can get out of it, unfortunately.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, let me take a break. We'll get to phone calls coming up. Matt Liner will join us on loan from Fox. We'll get to your phone calls. 877-3-DP show email address dp danpatrick.com Twitter handle @tp show. We're back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Hey, come on in.

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That's a great question. I probably wouldn't have, wouldn't have got drafted, Dan, because I couldn't fit in the style of offenses that are played now. So it's, it's, it's a different world of football and I see it at the, at the lowest levels from flag football, youth tackle football. I'm watching my son play high school football who, who just committed to SMU in the last couple weeks was pretty cool. So the game has really shifted from, just from my personal style of play. I think probably I, I would have been okay. But you know, you got to be able to move, you got to be able to do a lot of other things in this day and age of football, which was something that I was very lim. Maybe I would have pitched him baseball probably.

[Dan Patrick]

But are the days of the drop back passer gone or kind of becoming extinct?

[Matt Leinert]

It's a good question. I mean, look, I'm still, maybe this is just the traditional, I'm still a believer that you have to win from the pocket, you have to win from between the tackles. You have to be able to, you know, pick up or be able to throw when you're getting blitz inside and take those hits. I don't think you can run around and just make plays. All that being said, a lot of these guys now, and obviously Mahomes is a great example, like can do that, but they can also do more, you know, and that was, that was the biggest difference, I think. I think if you're looking at today's age, you know, you look at someone like Aaron Rodgers, who obviously is at the tail end of his career and never was considered a statue in the pocket, but he would run when he had to. He was a great athlete. He might be like the last of the guys that just would really prefer to stay in there and throw from the pocket, but that's how you win a lot of games. So it is interesting that that position is just completely evolved and changed over the last decade and. And you're seeing it played at a very, very high level. It's just different than what we're used to. You know, there's no more under center play action, really. Jared Goff, you know, Jared Goff is a person that I look at, and it's like he's. He's kind of one of those, like, Last of the Mohicans who is not going to run. He's going to make his living from the pocket, but he's got that system around him in the way they're doing it. So it's interesting the way it's evolved into what it is.

[Dan Patrick]

And Matthew Stafford, you could throw him in there. It's weird how people have fallen in love with Matthew Stafford almost overnight. Like, when you have these younger quarterbacks, they look up to him. CJ Stroud and Caleb Williams are like, man, I love Matthew Stafford. What is it about Stafford now? He was great against the Patriots, you know, four touchdown passes. But what is it about Stafford, though, that maybe is different than these maybe pocket quarterbacks?

[Matt Leinert]

He. It's such a great question because I feel like he's maybe the. One of the most underrated quarterbacks that we've seen in the last 15, 20 years, at least since he's playing. He's the number one pick out of Georgia. Was. Was. I don't want to say stuck in Detroit, but was in Detroit for most of his career, so won games, but never really, you know, the playoffs and all that. But the dude is the toughest, one of the toughest players you ever meet. He just, you know, I think he's one of those guys, like, he has elite arm strength, he moves. He has all of those traits. And like, I don't know, it's like, you know, it's one of those guys that all these young kids are like, oh, we love Stafford. And I think I. It's like, I think it's his toughness, I think it's the longevity. I think it's all of these things. I don't think people realize, like, he took a beating in Detroit, you know, you have some of those highlights where he's playing with like, like, like he is just one of those dudes that is like, the dude should be in the hall of Fame. Like, I hope he's won a Super bowl and he still play. Yeah, I think so too. And he's still playing at a high level. And it's interesting because in that generation, you know, you look at kind of like obviously Brady and then you look at like Mannings and all of those guys Breeze and you know, guys that I, early in my career I played with and kind of look up to because that was what the quarterbacks looked like. Roethlisberger was, was a little bit of a different type of player when he was playing, but Stafford is kind of just like stood the test of time, you know, part of that, but also part of this new generation of players. And I think he's just really. When he went to la, he really started to gain the respect of his peers, I think, you know, and that's why a lot of these guys like to emulate their game after him.

[Dan Patrick]

If I said you could pick, you can be Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes.

[Matt Leinert]

I mean, I mean, Patty Happy Patty Mahomes. Give me a couple rings. Dan, come on. You remember we lost. We lost to the Steelers in the super bowl, man. San Antonio Holmes or outside. It would have had her. I would have had a ring as a backup quarterback, which have been fantastic. But you know what I. I love. I don't.

[Dan Patrick]

I mean, are you nervous about getting in the Super Bowl? Like, if you want to hear it.

[Matt Leinert]

Okay, so Dan, you want to hear a great story? So we're. We're in that super bowl, right? Which was a great one. And we score. Kurt throws a little in route and Larry splits the safeties, right? Runs for like 70 yards. We go up with a couple minutes left. Ben just marches down, he throws that incredible throw to San Antonio Holmes in the back of the end zone. There was, I don't know, say 30 seconds. There was enough time for us to maybe move. And I think, I think we needed a touchdown to win. Kurt got, I think on one play, Kurt got hurt. His shoulder on like a sack and there was still time left. And I don't if basically what was going to happen is if it was an incomplete class or whatever. The clock stopped. I was going in on the last play to throw a damn Hail Mary to try to win the super. Because he couldn't throw. He had like, he banged his. I think Lamar Woodley got him or something on the outside. So I'm sitting There I think Todd Haley was our OC at the time. And I'm like, oh, my God. I got, I'm starting to warm up. I'm about to have to throw a 55 yard bomb to win the game. Could you imagine if that would have happened and they caught a touchdown, but you did. I'd be going to Disneyland. Yeah. No, I didn't get it. It was incredible though, man. That was. Yeah, go ahead.

[Dan Patrick]

But, you know, no warm up. It's not like they let you go to the bullpen. Like you're trying to loosen up your arm. You're on the sidelines.

[Matt Leinert]

You know, in that moment, adrenaline, I probably would have chucked at 60 yards for sure. Any other day, you know, probably not, but that one, just going out there and to heave it, I would have got it there for sure. It was about a 55 yard throw, which I could have handled.

[Dan Patrick]

He's Matt Leinert and you can see him. The Fox Sports big noon kickoff, you got Indiana and Ohio State. Now Ohio State, there's been some kind of blowback on why are we always playing these noon games. Now I understand pre game, right into the game. Does Ohio State have a legitimate beef that maybe they should play later in the afternoon or in the evening?

[Matt Leinert]

Well, I mean, you got to remember too that the, you know, again, this is above my pay grade. I know the last couple weeks and getting a lot of the fans have been upset essentially because it, in their eyes, gives their team an advantage, whether it's the wide out Penn State, which, which I get as a, as a college football fan as well. You know, Fox and the big noon strategy started a handful of years ago to own that window and to be the big game in the morning when we all wake up and we sit on the couch for 12 hours to watch college football. And it's been a great, it's been great for Fox, I think. I think it has been overall great for fans in college football because you're getting a big, big 10 game or whatever it is in that, in that slot for us as big new kickoff, you know, we go where we go in the shows and we try to promote and give a great show and give the fans what they want. So some of that is, a lot of that is out of my control, personally. Out of our control as a show. But the games have been great. I think Gus, Joel and Jenny on the game side doing a tremendous job. They're the best in college football, in my opinion. And we just kind of, we kind of, we kind of do what we don't. So, So I can understand when fans are upset and they want all day and they want the night game and all that, but it is what it is and it's worked for us.

[Dan Patrick]

If I said that we were going to play backyard football, big noon, kickoff versus game day.

[Matt Leinert]

Why are you trying to stir the pot, Dan? Come on. Those are my bo. Those are my. But listen, I would say game day. Game day is the staple of college football. They've been doing it for a long, long time.

[Dan Patrick]

Those guys over there talking flag football. Flag football? Yeah.

[Matt Leinert]

Oh, we. Oh, we're. We're a lot younger than those guys. Remember, we got, you know, we got Mark Ingram who just. Who could still play. I just hand the ball off to him. And I'm not sure anybody, anybody over there is, is if Mark would want to play tackle football, I'm sure, you know, McAfee would want to play tackle football too. He's. He's a little crazy, but.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. But, but are you starting over? Brady Quinn?

[Matt Leinert]

You know what? I'll play receiver. That's fine. I'll let him. Actually, actually, I got two new hips dance. I don't know if I could be playing receiver. I. I'll be Brady at tight end. No one's getting in front of that train either. Hey, guess what, Dan, real quick, real quick, I want to say this because last time I saw you, I think me and Jerry were on the show Ferrara for throwbacks. Yeah, we got a big, big shooting competition today. Basketball. We've been talking a lot of smack online. I just want to let you know we're going to be at USC later. A little three point shot. Who you got, man? Who you think's winning that one?

[Dan Patrick]

You. You. Thank you.

[Matt Leinert]

I appreciate it. Thank you. That's all. I just wanted to. I, I told Jerry to turn on the show the morning to watch, so I give him. I give him a little plug.

[Dan Patrick]

Explain how you got Kobe's jersey over your shoulder.

[Matt Leinert]

So a great question. So Kobe, my all time favorite athlete. I met Kobe in Newport Beach. It's where he lived. And we had a mutual friend. So I met him years and years and years ago. I actually met him when I was at USC and all those things, but I really got to know him outside of that world at like barbecues down in Newport. All these things just on a different level and became, you know, some. Somewhat friends. You know, when I saw him and all those things and I just, I asked for. I was like, hey, would you sign this? Whatever. And Then that's how I got that. And then it's, you know, obviously when he passed away, I had seen him, my son, my oldest son plays basketball too, as well as football. And we were playing in the made hoops tournament, which is this circuit all around the west coast. And Kobe was coaching his daughter and that team in the same circuit on the girls side. And we had seen him earlier in that month of January at the Momba Academy over down in Thousand Oaks for that weekend. It's a weekend of basketball. And then you play a couple weekends later. A couple of weekends later. And I'll, I've had that jersey for years, but I'll just never forget. We were talking for probably 20 minutes. He had seen Cole. He's like, damn, Cole, you grown. Like Cole was already like 6ft in seventh grade or something like that. We were watching him coach his, his daughter and the girls team right there. And. And then a couple weeks later, obviously the tragedy happened. But also too, I, you know, know Vanessa fairly well and his, her daughter, the youngest ones play in our flag football leagues down in Orange county, which is, which has been pretty awesome to have them a part of that too. So Kobe, my all time favorite athlete, I got a chance to know him and obviously we miss him and everybody misses him.

[Dan Patrick]

Tell me what you're doing with Abbott. The we give blood drive in conjunction with the Big Ten.

[Matt Leinert]

Yeah. So this is, this is really incredible what Abbott is doing. So they've partnered with all of the Big Ten schools basically to launch a competition to see who can donate the most blood. And the school who donates the most blood gets a million dollars to advanced student or health, community health. So there's a big incentive for people to go out there and not only just support your school and whatever school that may be, but also to give blood and donate. We have a severe, severe blood shortage in this country and millions of people impacted by that. So it's just a really cool campaign and competition to get people out there to donate. You can go to big10bigten.org Abbott to pick a location, you donate blood, you upload your proof of donation, which is really important out there, who are listening and you pick your school. And it's as simple as that. And the winner will be announced for the Big 10 championship game December 7th. So Abbott's doing an incredible job with this. And again, as I said, the blood shortage is real in this country. So I encourage everybody. I'm actually giving blood this Friday up in Ohio State. We'll be out in Columbus for the game. So I'm going to. I'm going to do that Friday.

[Dan Patrick]

Give me 60 seconds on the state of USC football.

[Matt Leinert]

I'm going to need about two hours, but in 60 seconds. 60 seconds. We are. And I say we, obviously, because I'm a Trojan, but I'm a fan. I want to see my school do well. It's a challenging spot right now. The expectation is really high at usc. Lincoln came in three years ago, this is third year, and almost went to a college football playoff, which was a great year. We fell short in the Pac12 championship game, and then it sort of tailed off over the last couple years. And we knew going into this year, the first year of the Big Ten, it's going to be a challenge and a lot of new pieces on the team, and it hasn't been the season I think he would want, the team would want, and the USC fan base. And I would just say big picture, you know, like, he knows. He knows what he needs to do. He knows what the expectation is at usc. And I believe with NIL and believe with the talent in Southern California that there is. There's no excuse not to be able to build a championship team. And I think he knows that. So, listen, the pulse is. It's tough. There's a lot of people, a lot of fans that are frustrated, and, you know, the mantra kind of like it's the same thing week in and week out, and then that just needs to be changed. And I'm not. I'm not saying anything anybody doesn't know, but USC needs to get better, as plain and simple. They have a chance to beat UCLA this week. They have a chance to play Notre Dame next week and maybe knock them out of the playoffs. So there's still stuff to play for and to kind of create some excitement going into next year.

[Dan Patrick]

The best team in college football is.

[Matt Leinert]

The best team, you said.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Matt Leinert]

I'd say Oregon. I know they're number one, but I just, I. You know, the knock with them is like, I think it's still like the perception of maybe what they've been in the past, like a lot of speed, but don't have. Like, this is not that, like, Dan Lanning is a real dude. Like, Dan Lanning is an SEC coach. Dan Landing has built a team like that. They can play with anybody up front and they have the speed to play with anybody, like in Ohio State and some of these. These teams that have tremendous talent on the outside. And Dylan Gabriel, I mean, gosh, he's played a lot of football and he's won a lot of games. So I think Oregon is for sure number one. But it is very this year is fantastic because you have like, honestly, like I think you have seven or eight teams like Ole Miss could win the national championship. Georgia, even though they've been up and down, could win. Bama can win, Texas can win, Ohio State, Oregon, Penn State, for that matter, might have it like you just like, honestly, I think anybody could beat anybody right now, which is great.

[Dan Patrick]

He's Matt Leinert and For more information, bigten.org backslash Abbott Great to talk to you. Safe travels to Columbus.

[Matt Leinert]

Thanks, Dan. Appreciate you, buddy.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Dan Patrick]

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Awesome.

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Wasabi Hot Cloud Storage Store more and do more with your data. Try them for [e-mail] Cavs are getting 5 tonight against the Celtics. Cavs are 15 0. Celtics are 11 and 3. The odds on favorite to have the most points tonight is Jason Tatum, then Donovan Mitchell. Here's one for you. Jazz are getting 11 against the Lakers. LeBron James over under 23 and a half. Let's see. How about. Pelicans are getting 12 against the Mavericks over under Luca, 27 and a half. He's gone over this number in six of his last nine games. I think I'm officially getting old. Like I can embrace it that I'm. I'm officially old.

[Marvin]

What's the typical.

[Dan Patrick]

I got into a conversation yesterday, last night with a Mets fan, a good friend of mine, and he's saying, why are you down on Juan Soto? I said, I just don't want to spend $700 million on Juan Soto. He's like, why? This is just Monopoly money. I said, well, I don't know, maybe it's just the principle of Shohei Ohtani. $600 million, and at least he gives you worldwide recognition. He can pitch, he can hit, he's a great player, he steals, bases, all these things. Juan Soto is probably going to get $700 million. And then you realize that at some point over the next couple of years, Luka Doncic is going to make $90 million a year, maybe more, maybe 100 million at some point. And I guess I'm just caught up in these salaries where I go, gosh, that. What do you get for that kind of money? Remember, $50 million for a quarterback. You're like, oh, my God. Now all of a sudden, you don't even blink. And I'm still caught up in decades ago. Where you're going, you're going to spend that much money on a baseball player for that amount of time. And my point was nobody is going to watch one. You're not saying, kids, we're going to the game because we got to see Juan Soto. You're not. Now, you might have said that about Mike Trout or Albert Pujols, Aaron Judge, Clayton Kershaw, back in the day, Paul Skeen. Like, there's certain players. I just. Bryce Harper. There's certain players where you go, you know what? They're worth that extra money because they bring you to the ballpark. I just said, I just don't get it with Soto. Just don't get it. But I'm in the minority there, and I'll probably stay in. Did I call him? I didn't call him Luis Soto. I'd be Luis Soho. But it Was one. So. Okay, so I officially realized that I was old last night because I'm complaining about salaries here. But Luca, he's going to be a 90 million Shay Gilgeous Alexander. These guys are going to make $90 million a year pretty soon. Score big with the DraftKings sportsbook. Download the DraftKings sportsbook app. Use code Patrick. Opt in to NBA cup double up promotion. Score your profit boost pack. That's Code patrick. Only on DraftKings sportsbook. The Crown is yours. All right, time to play Dun, dun or I'm back in.

[Marvin]

Paulie, let me explain. Unlike in or out, which is tomorrow's white hot segment, this is a little more declarative. Like, dun, dun means that team can't make the playoffs, and back in means they're in it. They're still in the mix. Ready? Okay, Little curveball here. BYU football.

[Dan Patrick]

I'd have to look at. I'd have to do some homework on that of who they play and what has to happen before I.

[Marvin]

We don't prep for these segments.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh. Oh, wow. Okay.

[Seton]

Dun, dun.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm gonna say dun dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.

[Marvin]

Anybody still love the Cougs?

[Paulie]

I'm gonna stick with byu. I think they're still in the mix.

[Marvin]

Shockingly, Fritzy still loves the Cougs.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Marvin]

There you go. Here we go. They were on the list last week, the Cincinnati Bengals, after another loss. Done, done.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm out. I, like, I'm done, done, out, out.

[Marvin]

Even though they have this fantastic offense.

[Dan Patrick]

I know, I know, but I. I just. It feels like every week we say this, and I'm gonna say that I'm done, done.

[Seton]

I think I was out out on them in, like, week three.

[Matt Leinert]

Yeah, you were.

[Dan Patrick]

On week three.

[Seton]

Okay, well, is there a difference between out, out and done done out, out is me. Dun, dun is them. Right?

[Marvin]

This game allows you to be out, out in week three and jump back in in week 11. That's why this game is perfect for flip floppers like us.

[Dan Patrick]

But he could be back in and then be done done.

[Marvin]

That's also.

[Dan Patrick]

He could come back in and be done.

[Marvin]

How about the 5 and 6 Indianapolis Colts? A sudden breath of fresh air at quarterback. Who's back in?

[Dan Patrick]

I am.

[Seton]

I'm in.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm in. I'm back in.

[Marvin]

That was a casual in.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, me too. I am back in.

[Marvin]

I'm out. Out or done? Done with them. I think this is a fake blip.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, here we go.

[Marvin]

The Dallas Cowboys at. Their record is awful.

[Paulie]

Their.

[Marvin]

Their record is three and seven. They Lost five in a.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Marvin]

Everyone's done, right?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Seton]

I mean, is there anything to be not done with. With them?

[Dan Patrick]

What would you be back in for?

[Marvin]

I don't know.

[Dan Patrick]

Except for more of this.

[Marvin]

They were on the sheet, the guys.

[Dan Patrick]

In back, like, thank you, sir. May I have another? I'm back in.

[Marvin]

Okay.

[Matt Leinert]

Done.

[Marvin]

Done. Back in. On the entire NFC South.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm still with Kirk D. Cousins. I'm. I'm. I'm in. I'm back in on the Falcons.

[Marvin]

The Falcons have lost two in a row. The Bucs have lost four in a row. The bad teams, quote, unquote. The Saints have won two in a row, and the Panthers, weirdly, have won two in a row.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Marvin]

Okay, here we go. This is the biggie. The San Francisco 49ers. They are 5 and 5. They're in last place in the NFC west, but they are the best scoring team in the NFC West.

[Dan Patrick]

Todd.

[Paulie]

That division is up for grab, so I can't be out.

[Dan Patrick]

Out.

[Paulie]

And I'm still with them. Still with the Niners.

[Matt Leinert]

Out.

[Marvin]

Out is not an option. It's done.

[Dan Patrick]

Done.

[Paulie]

I am not back in on the Niner.

[Dan Patrick]

Seaton.

[Seton]

I forget what the option is, but the opposite of done.

[Dan Patrick]

Done.

[Seton]

I'm definitely not done. Done with that.

[Dan Patrick]

You're back in.

[Seton]

Okay. I'm back in. Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, Marvin. I was always in. Yeah, that's right. It's your team. I'm back in. I'm. I'm. They're lingering. I think all you got to do is linger in the West.

[Marvin]

Last one. Since we can't put them in. In or out tomorrow. The Cavaliers winning streak. If you're done. Done. You think it's done if you're back in, we're going to shoehorn that into. You think they're going to beat the Celtics tonight?

[Dan Patrick]

I've always been in on the Cavs.

[Marvin]

Are you in tonight, though?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Paulie]

Really?

[Dan Patrick]

Why not?

[Paulie]

Surprise. I think the Celtics. I think the Celts are going to be motivated to hand the Cavs their first loss at TD Garden. And the streak ends tonight. Boston beats Cleveland.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, so you think they'll be motivated?

[Paulie]

I think they'll be extra motivated. When there's a little something extra early in the season, who cares? But the team's coming onto our court, trying to stay undefeated. That's not happening to the world champs.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Paulie]

Done tonight, Cleveland.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Fritz in their house. The CAVs are only five point underdogs here, Todd.

[Paulie]

I don't care about that. I know that the Celtics will finish with at least one more point than the Cavaliers.

[Dan Patrick]

When the game's over tonight, man, you can give a pregame speech. Let's go. Who's with me?

[Paulie]

Let's end that undefeated season.

[Seton]

I am in control of this vehicle.

[Dan Patrick]

You don't need any extra motivation. We're going to hand them their first loss. Not coming on to have one more point than they do.

[Paulie]

Let's streak ends tonight on our floor.

[Dan Patrick]

Who's with me? All right. Two hours in the books. Who's with me? Hour three. Come on, let's go. Let's go, let's go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[Justin Jefferson]

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[Dan Patrick]

You're at a bar looking for a new beer when you smell a citrusy aroma. It smells like sunshine and oranges. You see the bartender pouring a beer that looks refreshing. Only one problem. You have no clue how to pronounce the name Ji Ali. Is that even English? The bartender is now heading your way as you're about to order. Nice cold jai alai. You hear, Can I get a hylai? Hi li the best beer you probably can't pronounce.

[Peter Schrager]

What's up, everybody? It's Peter Schrager. We're back for the season with Peter Schrager. In each episode of the season, I'm going to empty my proverbial notebook and take you inside and behind the scenes on the conversations that happen at the highest levels of NFL franchises. You see, you'll be in the front office of an NFL team one week, but the next week you're going to be at a bar, elbow to elbow with some of your favorite celebrities laughing about football, like Kansas City Chiefs fan Paul Rudd.

[Dan Patrick]

By the way, can I just point out how much I like the music of this podcast?

[Matt Leinert]

Music is awesome. Incredible. Very good.

[Peter Schrager]

It's very kind, like a funky beat. Listen to the season with Peter Schrager on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Kyle Brandt]

You're busy, I'm busy. But every single Monday, we take 10 minutes to dish out 10 takes. NFL Life, whatever, but never more than 10 minutes. It's 10 takes with Kyle Brandt. Driving home from work, you got time for 10 takes. Taking a smoke break, you still smoke. You got time for 10 takes. Hiding in the bathroom at work, you got time for 10 takes. Listen to 10 takes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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