Hour 2 - Lack of Buzz Before the Draft

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show: Hour 2 - Lack of Buzz Before the Draft (April 17, 2025)

Hosted by LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, and Jonas Knox on the Dan Patrick Show via FOX Sports Radio.

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1. NFL Draft Dynamics and the New York Giants' Strategy

A. Giants' Current Position and Draft Pick Concerns

The discussion kicks off with the New York Giants navigating a challenging offseason compared to last year's performance showcased on "Hard Knocks." The Giants are currently positioned with the third overall draft pick, sparking conversations about their strategy moving forward.

B. Interest in Abdul Carter and Potential Trade Scenarios

Brady Quinn highlights the Giants' interest in quarterback Abdul Carter, stating, “[03:22] 'Abdul Carter is a three to one favorite to be selected number three overall by the Giants.'” However, there's uncertainty about whether the Giants will ultimately select him, given ongoing interest from other teams seeking their third pick.

LeVar Arrington proposes a potential trade with the Chicago Bears, suggesting, “[11:02] 'The Bears might approach the Giants with additional draft capital, such as the 10th pick along with the 39th and 41st picks, in exchange for Abdul Carter.'” This scenario aims to provide the Giants with more flexibility and additional assets while still targeting key talent.

C. Shador Sanders and the Draft's Limited Spotlight

The conversation shifts to Shador Sanders, who, despite generating significant buzz, remains a polarizing figure in the draft. Quinn remarks, “[08:09] 'There's more coverage towards Shador Sanders than perhaps other prospects in years past, especially within the context of the Giants.'” This disproportionate attention underscores the overall lack of excitement surrounding the current draft class.

2. Comparative Draft Strategies Among NFL Teams

A. Jacksonville Jaguars and Los Angeles Rams' Draft Visitation Policies

LeVar Arrington sheds light on the Jacksonville Jaguars’ strategic decision to limit visits with top prospects, mirroring the Los Angeles Rams' approach. He explains, “[17:28] 'The Jaguars, following the Rams' lead, avoid inviting top 30 prospects for in-person visits to prevent revealing their first-round plans to other teams.'” This tactic emphasizes a shift towards more confidential and strategic planning in the drafting process.

B. Implications for Prospects and Team Evaluations

The hosts discuss the ramifications of such strategies, particularly for prospects who miss out on traditional visitations. Arrington comments, “[17:28] 'From the prospect’s perspective, not being able to tour facilities and engage with the team directly can be disheartening and disadvantageous in their evaluation.'” This method prioritizes team strategy over player experience, potentially altering the dynamics of how players are assessed and selected.

3. The Dearth of Exciting Storylines in the Current Draft

A. Calls for More Engaging Draft Developments

A recurring theme is the noticeable lack of compelling narratives surrounding this year's draft. Arrington urges for more engaging events to invigorate the draft season, mentioning, “[22:32] 'This draft really has no buzz. Outside of Shador Sanders, there’s very little excitement or intriguing storylines.'” The hosts express a collective desire for more dynamic and newsworthy moments to captivate fans and media alike.

B. Suggestions for Enhancing Draft Excitement

LeVar Arrington humorously suggests injecting drama into the draft to boost its appeal: “[14:13] 'If we could get somebody like a top pick to smoke weed out of a gas mask, it would make the draft much more interesting.'” While tongue-in-cheek, this highlights the hosts' yearning for standout moments that can break the monotony of a subdued draft environment.

4. RFK Stadium's Potential Comeback

A. Negotiations for a New Stadium in Washington, D.C.

The conversation transitions to the potential revival of RFK Stadium, with reports indicating that the Washington Commanders are close to securing a $3 billion deal to build a new stadium on the original RFK site. Arrington enthusiastically announces, “[28:58] 'RFK Stadium is back. The Commanders are reportedly finalizing a $3 billion deal to construct a new stadium on the historic site.'”

B. Implications for Team Operations and Fan Experience

Jonas Knox delves into the logistical benefits of returning to RFK Stadium, emphasizing proximity between practice facilities and the stadium itself: “[34:15] 'Imagine having your practice area connected to the stadium, allowing players to walk directly to games, fostering a genuine home-field advantage.'” This centralized approach is contrasted with the current setup, where significant travel hampers team cohesion and fan engagement.

C. Enhancing the Team and Community Connection

The hosts advocate for a more integrated stadium environment, drawing parallels to successful designs like Nationals Park in Washington, D.C. Arrington remarks, “[37:16] 'If the Commanders can centralize operations and create an engaging fan experience within the District, it would significantly enhance both player performance and community support.'” This vision underscores the potential positive impact on both team dynamics and the broader fanbase.

5. Concluding Thoughts and Future Outlook

As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the current state of the NFL draft, the Giants' strategic maneuvers, and the potential revitalization of RFK Stadium. They express a mix of concern over the lackluster draft buzz and optimism for future developments that could reinvigorate fan interest and team performances.

LeVar Arrington concludes with a hopeful note, “[39:48] 'We’re looking forward to seeing how these storylines unfold and hoping something exciting happens to ignite the draft atmosphere as we move forward.'”

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Notable Quotes:

• Brady Quinn ([03:22]): “Abdul Carter is a three to one favorite to be selected number three overall by the Giants.”

• LeVar Arrington ([11:02]): “The Bears might approach the Giants with additional draft capital, such as the 10th pick along with the 39th and 41st picks, in exchange for Abdul Carter.”

• LeVar Arrington ([17:28]): “The Jaguars, following the Rams' lead, avoid inviting top 30 prospects for in-person visits to prevent revealing their first-round plans to other teams.”

• LeVar Arrington ([22:32]): “This draft really has no buzz. Outside of Shador Sanders, there’s very little excitement or intriguing storylines.”

• LeVar Arrington ([28:58]): “RFK Stadium is back. The Commanders are reportedly finalizing a $3 billion deal to construct a new stadium on the historic site.”

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This episode provides an in-depth analysis of the current NFL draft landscape, emphasizing the New York Giants' strategic positioning and the broader implications of team draft strategies. The potential return of RFK Stadium is highlighted as a significant development with far-reaching effects on team operations and fan engagement. Despite the overall subdued atmosphere surrounding the draft, the hosts maintain an optimistic outlook for future seasons and developments within the league.

Transcript

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[Jonas Knox]

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[LeVar Arrington]

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[Jonas Knox]

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[LeVar Arrington]

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[Brady Quinn]

With the signing of those two players, I think we put our position ourself in a position where, you know, I don't think that's mandatory or something that we're our feet of the fire and we have to do. You know, I think the two guys we signed have played a lot of ball. They've got a lot of skins on the wall and I do think we've upgraded that room, you know, compared to where it was a year ago. I like the two guys that we have and you know, Tommy's still in there and he's won games for us too. And we're happy with the makeup of the room right now. We'll be open to all options. I mean, those type of strategy sessions have been ongoing and you know, talking through different scenarios. So yeah, we're always going to be open to, you know, either or those scenarios.

[Jonas Knox]

We received a lot of interest from teams looking to trade up.

[Brady Quinn]

We've received some calls.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah, we've received some calls. All right, Abdul Carter receive some calls. Abdul Carter is a three to one favorite to be selected number three overall to the Giants, so.

[Unknown Speaker]

Well, that doesn't mean he'll be selected by the Giants. It just means he's going to go number three overall.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, I think what you said while Jonas was off that he can't respond to because he wasn't here to hear what you said. Certainly, certainly is. Is more relevant and in today's conversation than it was yesterday. Boy, professional co signing is always the best, especially when you have supporters. You know, then you get Q doing what he's doing with yours.

[Unknown Speaker]

I'm just laughing at it because I didn't think he was going to go there. And if we really want be honest.

[Jonas Knox]

Get out of here.

[Unknown Speaker]

Central Cubs really struggled winning only one of two versus the Padres.

[Jonas Knox]

You know what, Let me tell you something.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, I bet you did.

[Jonas Knox]

You worry about staying out of way of those dolphin statues that you walk by that you see? All right, buddy.

[LeVar Arrington]

I'm married.

[Jonas Knox]

Thank you. Exactly.

[LeVar Arrington]

Take what I can get.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, yeah. Avoid. Avoid them breathing holes, them blowholes. Anyway, so the point I'm making here. You asked the question on the show, Q. Does this mean they're trying to drive up the value of Shador Sanders to entice a team to want. Want him at three where they can trade down? Because they could still possibly get the player that they would want without using that three pick? I think if I said it correctly.

[Unknown Speaker]

I actually don't think I said any of them.

[Jonas Knox]

Okay, well, trade back at least, right? Trade.

[Unknown Speaker]

No, my thing was is there might be someone interested in Abdul Carter because they don't have a need for Abdul Carter. They've got Kayvon Thibodeau, they've got Brian Burgess, so they're trade out of the pit. We want to trade back because we feel like we could still get a quarterback or get someone else.

[Jonas Knox]

Right.

[Unknown Speaker]

And in exchange, get more draft capital.

[Jonas Knox]

The Giants, that being the Giants in this situation. Right. Okay. So I. I think that's more relevant now after hearing that explanation from the GM than. Than it ever has been, honestly. If I'm. If I'm. I'm being realistic. I'm calling Cap on some of this stuff that's coming Shador Sanders way. I'm calling Cap on that. I think people know his talent level. I think they know what he brings to the table. But in. In order to keep people off balance on what it is that you would really like to do, I think things like this happen sometimes, and it just happens to be a little bit more coverage towards Shador Sanders than what it would be maybe, possibly for other prospects in years past, but as it applies to the New York Giants, looking at that number three pick, if they, if they had no other recourse, nobody wants to offer them what they want. They can't miss on this pick. They. They really can't miss on this pick. And I think it's just based upon the conversation that we had with Prisco, is that they're facing losing their jobs. Whether it's the gm, whether it's the. The. The. The head coach, and whether they're able to save themselves or not, it still seems to be a pick that may give them some type of ammunition to be able to make a. A, A maybe a legitimate argument that they should be able to retain their jobs and continue to build this team out. I don't know how realistic that is, but in listening to this, it might be way better for the New York Giants to trade out of that number three pick and, and hope that they can get more draft capital and still be able to get a player that they would really want with one of the, the high draft picks that they would swap out with with the team that would take that number three overall.

[LeVar Arrington]

Because if you got, if we, we're looking at the top prospects and everyone says, well, it's Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter and you can swap either one of those, there's going to be a team who's going to look at the Giants. If, if the point is, listen, they don't need Abdul Carter. They've already got that position addressed that's going to be willing to give up a significant amount for one of the top overall prospects in the draft. So if you're Joe Shane, the Giants, like, why would you, like, like why would you take a quarterback? Why would you go. If it's too high to take an Ashton Genti, maybe you could drop back and, and, and, but is it, is it too high?

[Jonas Knox]

I mean, didn't they take Saquon at number two? Yeah, but it was a, it was a bad hit.

[LeVar Arrington]

Clearly they weren't fans of his.

[Jonas Knox]

Clearly they made a tremendous mistake is what they did. The, the, the draft pick was good.

[Unknown Speaker]

Different general manager. Right. That was David Gettleman. And then you had Joe Shane who came in and you know, he didn't prioritize paying that position the same way the, the Eagles did, I guess.

[Jonas Knox]

Well, that didn't look good. Doesn't look good. But it was a hit. The pick was a hit. So I don't, I don't feel Aston Genty should be talked about more. I just, I've said it, I feel it. You know, I've talked about him the entire.

[Unknown Speaker]

Than you.

[Jonas Knox]

I've been talking about Ashton Jenty for at least two or three years now. You know what I mean? I've been really committed to talking about how really talented this dude is.

[LeVar Arrington]

True.

[Jonas Knox]

I, I've said to people, we haven't seen a back like this since, you know, Barry Sanders and Eric Dickerson and the pony Express and, and you know what? And now people want to get on the bandwagon with Ashton. Jy he's not being discussed enough.

[Unknown Speaker]

Say it enough, people will think it's true. Right?

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, I mean that's what, that's the point. And that which I said media is for. You could shoot it out there like you really meant it.

[LeVar Arrington]

Oh yeah.

[Jonas Knox]

I'm shooting this. Like I really mean it. I mean, I didn't hear this from one Braden Quinn. I just, I just figured that this is, people are starting to catch on to Ashton Genti and I'm here to tell you, Seriously though, that isn't mine. I am a fan after seeing him play and I do think that it would be interesting to see him go, you know, in top five picks, top six, which is very realistic. I don't think he gets past Las Vegas. I don't. Now the question becomes who would want to make that trade with New York? Who do we think are the teams that have shown interest that would possibly want. If it's Abdul Carter or if it's Travis Hunter that happened to fall to number three, who were those? Do we have bet nods on who those teams would be?

[LeVar Arrington]

No, but I've got, you know, I've got one that can make some sense.

[Unknown Speaker]

Oh, he's got one. What do you got, John?

[LeVar Arrington]

The Bears.

[Jonas Knox]

Oh God.

[LeVar Arrington]

It does make sense now because here's.

[Unknown Speaker]

Why is that because, hold on. Is that because the new head coach made, you know, not like DeAndre Swift quite as much?

[LeVar Arrington]

Well, I mean, I, I, I think, yeah, he doesn't appear to be a, a huge fan, but if it's a deep running back draft class and you think you could get a running back that could be quality at the next level later on, maybe the Bears call the Giants. I'm talking dig from the standpoint of Abdul Carter. Maybe they call up and say you can take the 10th pick and we've got the 39th and the 41st pick as well too. I mean, those are three picks in the top 40 plus. Why not? If you're that interested or you believe that you need help from a pass rushing standpoint. They haven't gotten great production from Montez Sweat, especially last year, and they gave him a whole bunch of money. You know, maybe they could hit up the Giants and be like, are you, would you be willing to drop back to 10 or is that too far to fall out to still get a quality player at that?

[Jonas Knox]

What does it, what does it look like if you're in the top 10 to trade a pick? Like say for instance, the news surfacing on variable wanting T.J. watt in, in New England, that means you want an edge rusher. And if you're trying to get a TJ Watt at the type of dollar that you were trying to, you're gonna have to pay to get them. Would it make sense to try to swap out with, swap out with New York at that, at that 4 pick and get somebody else?

[LeVar Arrington]

That way you'd only drop one pick.

[Jonas Knox]

Back and, and then you get, you know, you get the differences.

[Unknown Speaker]

The, the difference is about 400 points, which would essentially be a second round pick. If you're looking at the traffic value chart, so that's typically what you would look at and say it's about fair compensation to be able to move up or move back one pick. That's. That's what you're looking for.

[Jonas Knox]

So would that make sense or not make sense? If you're, if you're New England, does that make sense to ensure that, like, say, for instance, there's another team that's like in. In, I guess, range that wants to try to slip into that third space? If, If Travis Hunter or more specifically in this particular moment, based upon New New England showing interest in TJ Watt, would you try to get that number three pick so that somebody doesn't swipe it from you? If. If it were to fall through with TJ Watt and trying to get this trade done? Possibly. I mean, it just seems like it would make sense if I wanted defense and the edge rusher of the caliber of TJ Watt and there's somebody that could possibly trade up and take Abdul Carter before we get him. Maybe it's like, okay, let's swap this pick so we can make sure we get Abdul Carter at 3. Does that make sense?

[Unknown Speaker]

I guess. When was the last time you heard anything about Vrabel?

[Jonas Knox]

And I think I read that yesterday. I. I'm. I'm. If I'm not mistaken, do. Do. Is. Is that fake news? I believe I read that, though, that there was interest.

[Unknown Speaker]

I remember seeing it a while back. I don't remember seeing it recently.

[Jonas Knox]

I read it yesterday, actually. That's. That's why I even brought it up just now, because I was. I saw a headline where it was like, vrabel is interested. The New England Patriots are interested in. Possibly. Because it. I guess it doesn't seem like the negotiations are going well in Pittsburgh. I mean, from what I read, it doesn't sound like it's maybe going to get done.

[LeVar Arrington]

This draft really needs something to happen. We need an event.

[Unknown Speaker]

What does it need, Jonas? Well, what does it need?

[LeVar Arrington]

I don't. Look, I don't condone this. I've never personally done it, but if we could get somebody like a top pick to smoke weed again out of a gas mask, I think it would help everybody involved. It'd make it that much more interesting. There's not enough trades. There's not enough trade scenarios. There's not enough positive Feedback on quarterbacks so and so is moving soaring up the draft charts. Everything's just negative doom and gloom. If we could really put a smile on everybody's face and just get somebody to, you know, hit the hippie lettuce out of a gas mask on video and have.

[Jonas Knox]

Not as provocative anymore.

[LeVar Arrington]

Okay, that's fine. Listen, it worked out well for him. He's made a hundred million dollars plus in his career. I don't even think he has an agent. Laramie Tunsil.

[Jonas Knox]

I think he's represented himself for what it's wor. I mean we went probably his weed.

[Unknown Speaker]

Guy helping him out.

[Jonas Knox]

We had one of the most insanely, insanely bad happenings take place based upon the draft this year. I mean, bad. Super bad. I mean that's polarizing. Sad as hell that it happened, but I mean we did have something crazy that. That is being talked about.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah, I know. I was, I was kind of hoping.

[Jonas Knox]

We could, you know, not as deep as that. Because that's super deep.

[LeVar Arrington]

Real.

[Jonas Knox]

That's like all the way submerged.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah, okay.

[Jonas Knox]

I'm just saying don't, don't, you know, you want to pick and choose where we're supposed to stop on the spectrum?

[LeVar Arrington]

I mean there's just not a lot of. I've tell you, man, I've mentioned this before. Brady made the best point a couple of weeks ago. We talked about it on our show. This draft really has no buzz. Like outside of Shador Sanders, there's nothing.

[Unknown Speaker]

That's the thing is it's one of the reasons why that Shador Sanders is getting so much buzz. I mean he's a bit of a polarizing figure, but there's also the element of there's nothing really else around it. And outside of these three, I would say four prospects outside of Abdul Carter, Travis Hunter, Will Campbell and Ashton Genty. If you're looking at like top overall prospects, there's a bit of a drop off. And even with Will Campbell, people have, you know, questioned his arm length. I mean outside of maybe Booker for a lot of the tackles or at least guys who play tackle in college in this draft class, a lot of these guys might get moved inside the guard because of arm length. I'm not sure why that is. I'm not sure if guys just popping out being 300 plus pounds with short arms now, but something's happening. But anyway, the general point is there's just not as much buzz around it, surrounding it. I actually think the most fascinating thing to me and I don't know why I didn't know this and I'm a little disappointed in you two for not knowing this. Do you guys know that the LA Rams never invite any of the top three 30 prospects in for a visit?

[Jonas Knox]

I don't know why you would be disappointed in me for not knowing that.

[Unknown Speaker]

And I don't because you guys are out in LA and you guys are a little bit of like the, like, hey, what's up man? Let's go to Nobu over there.

[Jonas Knox]

Well, that's true.

[Unknown Speaker]

Do our whole like trendy thing here in the West Coast. What's up, bro? I, I learned this because the new general manager, James Gladstone with the Jacksonville Jaguars, who's, you know him and you know the rest of the scouting staff, they've implemented the same exact strategies that the Rams would use. And the reason why they don't invite in prospects at least the top 30, is because they don't want to tip their hand to any other team. What they're going to do in the first round. Now they still are able to meet with the teams or me with, excuse me, the prospects via zoom, but that's all confidential, right? There's no one really is saying like who the Jacksonville Jaguars are zooming with. And when you do those visits, when you bring players in, you know your medical staff is going to take another look at them after the combine, for example. But the combine's a pretty thorough physical evaluation, so you don't really need much more unless there might be a medical checkup, which again the NFL is going to handle with a follow up checkup from the combine for those guys who are still injured. So they, you basically, you go in on these visits, you meet some of the coaches, you sit down, talk more, they test you on something. You can meet maybe some of the players, other people who are out there, but that's really it. They can't work you out. So the strategy that they're implementing in Jacksonville, the same that they have with the Rams, is something that kind of fascinates me about this draft that I don't recall ever hearing about in regards to the Rams. Like I was not aware of that and, and look, maybe it doesn't matter. I would feel like from the prospect perspective, not that you get a choice and who drafts you, but I would want to go see like the facility, I'd want to go meet some of the players, I'd want to go get a vibe for the locker room, the organization and getting a sense of all that. Right. Like it's kind of weird that from the Jaguars perspective, It might be good for them at least in regards to how they see the first round, maybe the top end of the second. But for the prospects, it doesn't help, you know? I mean, you're literally getting drafted and shipped off to a place you've maybe never been to before. It's kind of crazy when you think about it.

[LeVar Arrington]

Maybe they think if these guys see this place, they won't want to be here. So let's just keep it quiet, you know, like, if they don't know how messy the situation is. And I think the Rams.

[Unknown Speaker]

Rams. Is the ramp stuff nice now?

[LeVar Arrington]

I mean, I guess the Rams get most of their attention because they were doing that thing that Cliff Kingsbury had, that real nice place. Yeah, the Rams, I guess, rent, like, some beach house to where they do.

[Unknown Speaker]

Manhattan beach or whatever.

[LeVar Arrington]

I think. I think it was in Malibu, and I'm almost positive there was, like, a Covid outbreak one year, and so they couldn't even, like, really partake in it. It was Hermosa Beachly. Yeah, whatever. Malibu. Hermosa. There's water nearby.

[Unknown Speaker]

I thought it was more of a South Bay, you know, like, down where, like, Leonard and Rob Stone, those boys are at South Bay, bros. I thought it was more that area only because they had, like, a public area, too, where there was, like, the fans were involved. They could bring through some.

[LeVar Arrington]

Oh, yeah, that's right. Yep.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah.

[LeVar Arrington]

It's like, again, you.

[Unknown Speaker]

You could do that in Jacksonville. Like, you could remember that lady, you know? Oh, yeah, they interviewed.

[LeVar Arrington]

Oh, yeah. Do we. No, do we have that. That lady. She should have this high heart. Jags fan. Yeah, we are. We are efforting. We're gonna take it to the limit.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, she talked about her beach house that. Well, it's not quite a beach house. It's a little walk from the beach, but, yeah, she.

[LeVar Arrington]

She's a big Die Hard Jags fan. We're efforting that. That sound bite. So let's see. We are working behind the scenes here. A little vamp. Little vamp. Little vamp. Lee's working. Don't have it. Come on.

[Unknown Speaker]

Tap dance. Better than that. Come on, Jonas. Dance. Dance, Jonas.

[LeVar Arrington]

We got nothing. I'm being. I'm being shook off. We've got nothing.

[Unknown Speaker]

Dance.

[LeVar Arrington]

I was calling for fastball, and Lee shook you off. Just.

[Unknown Speaker]

Just give me 30 seconds. I'll send it to him. They can turn the sound.

[LeVar Arrington]

Well, listen, all I know is this is somebody to do something to spice up this draft, all right? And. And I don't know what it's going to take I don't know if it's going to be some sort of drama, some sort of, you know, maybe a CD lamb moment where, you know, the girl he's sitting with tries to grab his phone and he rips it out of her hand because he looks.

[Unknown Speaker]

Check your text message says, maybe.

[LeVar Arrington]

Maybe that wouldn't be a. A great thing to have happen here on national television, but we just need something here because there's just not a whole lot of interesting storylines heading into this. So Jacksonville not holding top 30 visits. I mean, some would argue they're not a top 30 team.

[Unknown Speaker]

So I'm just saying, isn't it interesting? Like, wouldn't you. Wouldn't you want to look at, you know, some of those prospects? Like, have them come into your facility so they interact with players, maybe take them out to a meal, see how that. See how that goes. That's kind of part of the process. Like, a zoom interview is drastically different than what it's going to be like when you actually have to have them in your facility.

[LeVar Arrington]

Oh, yeah. Listen, anybody who's been ahead of dating app knows that, like, you know, what. What they.

[Unknown Speaker]

What they present all the filters and everything else.

[LeVar Arrington]

Oh, yeah. What they present to you?

[Jonas Knox]

You've been single long enough to have used dating apps.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't think there's a time.

[LeVar Arrington]

There was a time.

[Jonas Knox]

Really?

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah, you know.

[Jonas Knox]

Really?

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

Are we sure about that?

[LeVar Arrington]

Positive.

[Jonas Knox]

I ain't gonna ask. Okay.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah. Positive.

[Jonas Knox]

Leave you where you're at, Marcino.

[LeVar Arrington]

Positive. There. There was a time, but that, you know, it's a long time ago, but, yeah, you know, somebody says, oh, I.

[Jonas Knox]

Saw a thumb go up.

[LeVar Arrington]

All right, Lee, what's the thumb up mean? What does that mean on radio?

[Jonas Knox]

We got her.

[LeVar Arrington]

All right, we got it.

[Jonas Knox]

Here we go.

[LeVar Arrington]

This is a Jags fan who last brushed her teeth or last brushed her tooth in 1988. Who's a diehards Jags fan. Let's. Let's take a listen. As far as picks, they say they have the best draft in the entire NFL. Are you surprised to hear that? Certainly not the first year we took it to the limit, and I was in Miami with my new beach house. Well, it was a couple minutes from the beach. It's been 20 years since then. We haven't been too strong in the last few years. Oh, we've been strong. We're just playing by the rules. You can't have a newcomer come in and steal a show. Thank.

[Jonas Knox]

There you go. That looks like a man. Honestly, I Sound like a dude.

[Unknown Speaker]

Well, she's had a few cigarettes.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah. Sound like a dude.

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[LeVar Arrington]

White paper surgery. Just have a carton.

[Jonas Knox]

Her ste is funny as hell, though. I loved it. Well, you can't have someone new.

[LeVar Arrington]

We're playing other rules. Still the show.

[Jonas Knox]

All right. Well, clearly this draft is not very interesting. There aren't very many interesting storylines, I guess.

[LeVar Arrington]

So you're saying that's why they don't have any top 30 visits. They don't want to see her at the facility.

[Unknown Speaker]

I see. One of the PFF guys was saying on one of their podcasts he would take Arch Manning right now as the as he'd rather take him right now. And he's only played about 100 snaps and had a couple starts. He would take him right now over any quarterback in this draft, which it sheds a little bit of light on the fact that the quarterbacks typically drive the interest in drafts. It's just the reality of it. And this year is not viewed as, you know, as deep of a draft class at the quarterback position. Next year will be an entirely different story. Next year will be a draft class that is going to be set up with again, probably four guys taking the first round, maybe five more similar to last year. And then it was this year.

[LeVar Arrington]

Well, listen, we can only hope. We can only hope we get something spicy. But until then, at least we got our jacks.

[Jonas Knox]

What would that be, though?

[LeVar Arrington]

I don't know, man. Listen, I threw it. Look, we've already had somebody do it, you know, gas mask, whatever you want. That was like, by the way, wasn't that gas mask before vapes? I think it was really ahead of his time, if you think about it. All right, it is the Dan Patrick show here on FOX Sports Radio. Lavar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here filling in for Dan and the guys coming up next here, though apparently old is new again in the NFL. We've got the proof for you right here on fsr. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

[Jonas Knox]

Hey, Steve Covino.

[LeVar Arrington]

And I'm Rich Davis.

[Jonas Knox]

And together we're Covino and Rich on FOX Sports Radio.

[LeVar Arrington]

You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio app.

[Jonas Knox]

Why should you listen to Covino and Rich?

[LeVar Arrington]

We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking.

[Jonas Knox]

About the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends.

[LeVar Arrington]

For the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right?

[Jonas Knox]

So check us out. We like to get you involved too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say.

[LeVar Arrington]

I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio. Maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth.

[Jonas Knox]

Be sure to check out Covino and.

[LeVar Arrington]

Rich live on Fox Sports radio and.

[Jonas Knox]

The iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific.

[LeVar Arrington]

And if you miss any of the live show, just search Kobe. Know Rich wherever you get your podcast. And of course on social media, that's Covino and Rich.

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[Margie Murphy]

In 2020, a group of young women in a tidy suburb of New York City found themselves in an AI fueled nightmare.

[Jonas Knox]

Someone was posting photos of. It was just me naked.

[LeVar Arrington]

Well, not me, but me with someone.

[Jonas Knox]

Else'S body parts on my body parts that looked exactly like my own.

[Margie Murphy]

I wanted to throw up. I wanted to scream. It happened in Levittown, New York. But reporting the series took us through the darkest corners of the Internet and to the front lines of a global battle against deepfake pornography.

[LeVar Arrington]

This should be illegal, but what is this?

[Margie Murphy]

This is a story about a technology that's moving faster than the law and about vigilantes trying to stem the tide. I'm Margie Murphy. And I'm Olivia Carvel. This is Levittown, a new podcast from iHeart podcasts Bloomberg and Kaleidoscope. Listen to Levittown on Bloomberg's Big Take podcast. Find it on the iHeartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[LeVar Arrington]

It's the Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. Levar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys coming up here a little over 50, 15 minutes from now. Somebody's got bigger concerns. You would think bigger concerns than this, except apparently, big fans of somebody we talked about earlier in the show. Here. We'll get into that story for you again here a little over 15 minutes from now. Lavar Arrington. Congratulations, man.

[Jonas Knox]

Thank you.

[LeVar Arrington]

Congratulations. It's back.

[Jonas Knox]

All right.

[LeVar Arrington]

RFK Stadium is back.

[Jonas Knox]

Nice.

[LeVar Arrington]

Reportedly, the commanders are close with the District of Columbia on a $3 billion deal to build a new stad at the site of RFK Stadium. It is back. I've been trying to tell you guys for years now.

[Jonas Knox]

You have been saying RFK the whole time.

[LeVar Arrington]

Whatever, your FedEx field, whatever that garbage. Enough.

[Jonas Knox]

What?

[LeVar Arrington]

What is wrong?

[Jonas Knox]

Problems, man.

[LeVar Arrington]

I know. Hey, Brady, Brady, your guys got issues, man.

[Jonas Knox]

Can you finish your point about? Are they gonna name it rfk?

[Unknown Speaker]

I don't know.

[LeVar Arrington]

Probably not.

[Jonas Knox]

But what's the point of you bringing up rfk?

[LeVar Arrington]

I just want to let you know that the old site.

[Jonas Knox]

Okay?

[LeVar Arrington]

Where the stadium was. Come on, cuz. Where they. They had. The old stadium is there, man. Your. Your commandos are back. See, you showed up there this past year and the rest was history.

[Jonas Knox]

Try to have a serious conversation and then use commandos in there. So you're making fun.

[LeVar Arrington]

No, I didn't.

[Jonas Knox]

The fact that you're. You're using us.

[Unknown Speaker]

I didn't even realize we always use commandos. I didn't even.

[Jonas Knox]

I get it.

[Unknown Speaker]

But serious or not, while they were.

[Jonas Knox]

Owned by Snyder, they could have been commandos. But now that. That they changed in, Harris has them and they're.

[Unknown Speaker]

What you're saying. Is that what you're saying?

[Jonas Knox]

I'm saying yes. Let's hard to put her on there. Let's hard er it. No, no, no. A. Let's hard er it now. Yes, That's.

[Unknown Speaker]

You can't say that. You can't tell us the hard er. It.

[Jonas Knox]

Yes. I want the heart. I want the hard.

[Unknown Speaker]

I will not. I will never.

[Jonas Knox]

I'm just saying I think that you guys should respect it enough to put the Jonas ER on there.

[Unknown Speaker]

I bet Jonas when it gets cut off, you know, he might.

[LeVar Arrington]

I didn't even realize I said commandos. I. I didn't. I didn't Just.

[Unknown Speaker]

I don't think he's picking up on it.

[Jonas Knox]

Lavar, it's such a. I. I think you just caught. Yeah, he's got it. He's got it.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah, he's got it. I got it.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah.

[Jonas Knox]

There's a big difference between the A and the hard er. But in. What do you mean in this scenario in particular, the hard er is acceptable is what I will say. There you go.

[LeVar Arrington]

My point was.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, what was your point?

[LeVar Arrington]

Good things have happened since you have shown up back at the stadium this past year.

[Jonas Knox]

I don't know why you're trying to. Because it's a point of emphasis. Because we lost that game, for one.

[LeVar Arrington]

It doesn't matter.

[Jonas Knox]

Then the fans are sitting there like, you didn't even come for the. The commanders. He came for Pittsburgh because that's where he's from. I'm like, come on, man. First of all, I did go back for the team. I wanted to meet the ownership. We had a great conversation. I wanted to go there because it was military appreciation. Obviously, people know my work with. With military and veterans and first responders. So I wanted to be there for that as well. I just, you know, it all worked out that the game was against the Steelers and I got to see my childhood team and I got to see the team that I played for when I was in the pros that I love, by the way, very much love the community very much and the fans. We had an amazing time during my time there. So I think they are going in the right direction.

[LeVar Arrington]

Oh, yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

Did you go the game? I feel like there was something controversial that happened. Was that when the sewage was coming out of the pipes or is that when they did the Sean Taylor.

[Jonas Knox]

You guys are doing deals?

[Unknown Speaker]

Wait, no.

[Brady Quinn]

This is.

[Jonas Knox]

This is like a segment set up to come at me doing bits.

[Unknown Speaker]

Well, no.

[Jonas Knox]

Aren't they still the Redskins when Deshaun Taylor and the water sewage was coming out?

[Unknown Speaker]

No.

[Jonas Knox]

Weren't they. Oh, they were the commandos by then.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yes. Yes.

[Jonas Knox]

I did not know that. Very distracting. Very, very distracting.

[Unknown Speaker]

I'm serious.

[Jonas Knox]

Didn't.

[Unknown Speaker]

Didn't something like after that game or during that game happen that was like, similar to that?

[Jonas Knox]

I don't recall anything. So this pretty smooth.

[LeVar Arrington]

The sewage leak at the stadium has happened a couple of times.

[Unknown Speaker]

I think that's what I'm saying.

[Jonas Knox]

I don't recall there being a sewage leak while I was there that I experienced.

[LeVar Arrington]

You remember the people were sitting.

[Jonas Knox]

I didn't.

[LeVar Arrington]

People were sitting and they were taking video.

[Jonas Knox]

I saw that video, but I don't think that was the game. I was there. This is a bit. You guys are bitten me, right?

[Unknown Speaker]

No, I know it happened multiple times now. I will admit this.

[Jonas Knox]

Mike reported about this. Huh? That's. That's what happened.

[Unknown Speaker]

I'm saying maybe, maybe I kept it in my back pocket thinking, like, at some point we're going to bring it up and have fun with it. But I don't.

[Jonas Knox]

I.

[Unknown Speaker]

And something happened around the time you went to that game.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, I don't know. I didn't see that.

[LeVar Arrington]

Lee, can you look up the last time whatever the field sewage came out?

[Jonas Knox]

I don't know what it's called now. It used to be called FedEx Field. It's not called FedEx anymore.

[LeVar Arrington]

Right. I always just called it RFK Stadium.

[Jonas Knox]

Well, that's a different stadium, though.

[Unknown Speaker]

It's a different. Different location.

[Jonas Knox]

Totally different location.

[LeVar Arrington]

All right, well, I was ahead of everybody because now they're back.

[Jonas Knox]

Well, if they're going back, I think that's pretty cool. To bring it back to the nation's capital now. It would be interesting to. To find out, are they going to have a practice area connected to, you know, the. The stadium itself? Are you going to actually be able to live in the District of Columbia if you'd like to, if you're playing for the team? I mean, I always thought it was like a really weird deal that you literally have to sit in an hour's worth of traffic to get to the game night, game eve hotel, because you practice in Northern Virginia and then you go around the Beltway or you go through the District of Columbia and in order to get to Landover to play at FedEx Field. But you're named after the District, so there's nothing even connected really to the District. There's nothing there. It's just part of the name. But you live in Northern Virginia. That's not the District. And you play in Maryland. That's not the District, even though it's considered to be the dmv. I get it, but that's just. That's weird to me. So if you were to centralize it back like. Like for instance, where you, when you played at an Oderdame, because I've never been, is your practice facility. How close is where you guys practice every day and where you're. You do your meetings and all those things. How close is that to the stadium that y'all play on on Saturday?

[Unknown Speaker]

It's like 300 yards. Yards maybe.

[Jonas Knox]

So you get to look at your stadium while you're, you know, while you're practicing, you're breathing the same air that you're going to breathe when you play in that game on Saturday. It's like right there. You could walk to your stadium. Right? That's how it should be. That, to me, that's how it should be. We never had a home. We've never had a Home field advantage. People has home field. We've never had a home field advantage. Maryland weather isn't the same as Virginia weather. At times. You can have rain over here, it could be warmer over there, it could be vice versa. It's not the same. It's not. And you don't get that. That feeling of you're at home because It's a whole 45, 50 minutes away from where you live and where you practice. Imagine you got to do that. You play a Thursday night game, a Monday night game, a late game, and you get done. You still got to drive like 45, 50 minutes to get home. It's not a home field advantage. So anyway, if they were able to create a more centralized operation, you know, where there's an experience for the fans, you know, restaurants, stuff like that, it's in the District. Like, I think the way the Nationals have it set up is pretty fly. I think it's pretty fly.

[LeVar Arrington]

Oh, I would. I was this week, being at Peco park in San Diego, which is a great park. Baseball stadiums and the design and the surroundings are so much better than NFL stadiums. It's not even close.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, I think it's. I think they could take a lesson from that and do it. If they do it, do it the right way. Walking traffic. They like. If, If I had the opportunity, I would have loved to have been a part of walking traffic. Wrap my bike to work, walk, walk to work, walk, walk home, have an opportunity to do other things that I can experience within the area, within the District. It's like you got to make it a point to try to travel around to do different things because you're nowhere near where you play. There's not or. Or not at all. There's nothing at all in D.C. so if they were to bring it back to RFK, I think it connects with the city on a different. The different cities on a much different level. I think it. It. I think it would have a tremendously positive reception. I think it would be an amazing opportunity for the. The players that would play there. It would be certainly a. Such a. A change in the environment if they were able to create a more centralized approach to how they practice and how they do it on game day with that team.

[LeVar Arrington]

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[Jonas Knox]

Of the Dan Patrick show weekdays at.

[LeVar Arrington]

9Am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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[Margie Murphy]

In 2020, a group of young women in a tidy suburb of New York City found themselves in an AI fueled nightmare.

[Jonas Knox]

Someone was posting photos of. It was just me naked.

[LeVar Arrington]

Well, not me, but me with someone else's body parts on my body.

[Jonas Knox]

Parts that looked exactly like my own.

[Margie Murphy]

I wanted to throw up. I wanted to scream. It happened in Levittown, New York. But reporting the series took us through the darkest corners of the Internet and to the front lines of a global battle against deepfake pornography.

[LeVar Arrington]

This should be illegal, but what is this?

[Margie Murphy]

This is a story about a technology that's moving faster than the law and about vigilantes trying to stem the tide. I'm Margie Murphy. And I'm Olivia Carvell. This is Levittown, a new podcast from iHeart podcasts Bloomberg and Kaleidoscope. Listen to Levittown on Bloomberg's Big Take podcast. Find it on the iHeartradio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[LeVar Arrington]

Levar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys coming up top of next hour. We'll call it a little over 10 minutes from now here from the Tirerack.com studio, we are going to talk about some more invites. Somebody's getting the invite they deserve in the world of football. We'll get into that for you here on fsr. A reminder though, that you can stream this show and all of our Fox Sports radio shows live 24. 7 in the new and improved iHeartradio app. Just search Fox Sports Radio in the app to Stream us live. And one of the newest features in the app is that you can select Fox Sports Radio as one of your presets, just like the presets on a radio dial. So be sure to preset Fox Sports radio in the iHeartradio app and it will always pop up at the top of your screen. So you guys have talked about this. We've talked about it on our show. Just the fanatical approach to college football as opposed to the NFL. And Lee, apparently somebody's really taken it to the limit when it comes to their, their fandom for their team. Is that correct?

[Brady Quinn]

Oh, yeah. Wild story out of East Tennessee that stretches all the way out to South Africa. In fact, there's a pastor named Josh Sullivan who's been living in South Africa with his wife and children since 2018. Well, apparently last week he was taken at gunpoint and kidnapped during one of his sermons. He was rescued late Tuesday night in a shootout that ended up killing three of his captors. Wild, wild story. But he's, he's safe now. But reportedly one of the first things he learned about after being rescued was this whole drama with Nico. And he's actually reportedly more upset about this whole story than his whole ordeal out there in South Africa.

[LeVar Arrington]

Way to go, Nico.

[Jonas Knox]

No way. How do you know this? How do you know this?

[Brady Quinn]

This is, this is reported. He, this was relayed to his fellow pastor who is still out here in Tennessee. His name is Tom Hatley and he's been in close connection with his fellow pastor, Josh Sullivan. Yeah, rescued. He was asked to talk about more lighted hearted things. He didn't want to talk too much about the ordeal he was going through. So they told him, hey, you've heard about Nico, right? And he's livid about the whole situation.

[LeVar Arrington]

I mean, Tennessee fans, you know, they didn't, it didn't take them long to.

[Jonas Knox]

Tennessee fans, boy, are very, they are very passionate about defending themselves.

[Unknown Speaker]

I love the man. I love them so much. They make, they make college football great, man. I'm telling you, you gotta have passionate fans like that. The pastors definitely take to another limit, but you've got to have that in sports, man. That's part of why they're called fans. They're fanatics. They, they live and, and, you know, breathe this stuff and live and die by it. So I love it. I love every, every part of it. So even though, look, Nico's probably gotten more flack than he's needed to, right? But that's what comes with sports, man. Especially now. You're like pants on the kids, too. It feels a little bit more. Okay.

[LeVar Arrington]

This is. This feels like a healthy fandom, though. You know, this is getting somebody past a traumatizing moment, and now he just focuses on the football, gets his mind away from it, you know, it's not like that. You know Harvey Updike, who poisoned that tree? Harvey Updike? Yeah.

[Jonas Knox]

And they had to get rid of it, too.

[LeVar Arrington]

Yeah. He killed that thing.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, they had to just dig it.

[LeVar Arrington]

On out because somebody put a Cam Newton jersey on Bear Bryant's statue.

[Jonas Knox]

He had to get even.

[LeVar Arrington]

The guy killed a tree. He wouldn't.

[Jonas Knox]

You gotta get even, man.

[LeVar Arrington]

Like, really. Because somebody put a Cam Newton jersey on Bear Bryant statue, so he just.

[Jonas Knox]

Okay, this living thing has to go now.

[LeVar Arrington]

Out of there.

[Brady Quinn]

I accidentally salted one of my. My patches of garden the other day.

[LeVar Arrington]

What do you mean?

[Brady Quinn]

Well, isn't that what happened? Like, he salted the earth and that'll kill.

[Jonas Knox]

No, bro, he salt. Like, he put. He put point like, like strychnine or something. He put some crazy type chemicals on that ground, bro. Yeah, like crazy chemicals on. On the ground of that. That tree.

[LeVar Arrington]

What, lead like salt out of, like, a salt shaker on a. Like a kitchen table?

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah.

[Brady Quinn]

Remember that salt? I gifted you guys seasoning, and it's basically a bunch of salt. And I, I. The top came off, so I put it all into a bin. And then I realized I kind of had to get rid of that, so I, like, watered it down and I threw it into the garden. I realized that was probably the bad idea to do that, so I basically salted the garden.

[LeVar Arrington]

Did you kill the plants?

[Brady Quinn]

I don't know yet. This just happened.

[LeVar Arrington]

What plants were they?

[Brady Quinn]

They succulents, so they'll probably be all right.

[Jonas Knox]

Could they have been a name different? Different. Could have been a different plant other than, say, cactus or something.

[Brady Quinn]

They were cactus. They're succulent.

[Jonas Knox]

That's what a succulent is. A cactus.

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[LeVar Arrington]

You think those. You think those plants couldn't handle a little salt? How many times have you blown chunks of those plants coming home late?

[Jonas Knox]

Say cactus, bro. Don't. Don't say succulent, Please. Let's do us all a favor. Thank you. Succulent. Only Lee. Only Lee.

[Margie Murphy]

In 2020, a group of young women found themselves in an AI fueled nightmare.

[Jonas Knox]

Someone was posting photos. It was just me naked.

[LeVar Arrington]

Well, not me, but me with someone else's body parts.

[Margie Murphy]

This is Levittown, a new podcast from iHeart podcasts Bloomberg and Kaleidoscope. About the rise of deepfake pornography and the battle to stop it. Listen to Levittown on Bloomberg's Big Take podcast. Find it on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.