Hour 2 – Legendary Partying, Michael Irvin

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show — Hour 2 – Legendary Partying, Michael Irvin

Date: December 18, 2025
Host: Dan Patrick
Guest: Michael Irvin

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Dan Patrick Show centers around legendary tales of partying in sports and music, pop culture nostalgia, and an in-depth interview with NFL Hall of Famer Michael Irvin. Dan and the Danettes debate which era or celebrity would have been the ultimate to "kick it with," and Irvin brings high energy as he discusses 90s Cowboys lore, NFL hot topics, and delivers classic stories with humor and candor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Poll Question – Legendary Parties

[03:05-06:32]

• The hour’s poll asks:
  Who would you most have wanted to party with?
  • Led Zeppelin (1970s)
  • Motley Crue (1980s)
  • Michael Irvin (1990s)
• The Danettes debate the merits, reputation, and wildness of each group.
• Dan jokes, “What are the chances I could die – like, high with all of them and then work my way back.” (04:19)

NFL and College Football Chat

[07:33-11:51]

• Rundown of a packed football weekend: NFL, bowls, teams to watch.
• Discussion of major changes in college player compensation (NIL), recruiting scandals, and anecdote about a high school player getting a $3 million NIL deal.
• Dan asserts:

  “The NCAA does not exist anymore. It does not. I was told that yesterday. The NCAA, as you know, it does not exist.” (11:15)

Classic Sports Recruiting and Player Perks

[08:43-12:29]

• Stories of Eric Dickerson and the infamous gold Trans Am, SMU’s old-school “pay for play”, and creative booster workarounds.
• Dan on the changing landscape:

  “Nowadays that would be like, what's wrong? You guys aren't spending enough money? You're not giving away enough cars.” (08:58)

Catchphrases in Sports Media

[13:26-16:17]

• Callers reminisce about classic SportsCenter catchphrases from Stuart Scott and others.
• Listener calls in with a nostalgic memory of Dan saying “Don Mattingly gone” at a game, highlighting Dan’s longstanding cultural footprint.

Michael Irvin Joins the Show

[20:56-38:02]
(Highlighted conversation; see timestamps for notable quotes)

Cowboys Partying and 90s NFL Celeb Life

• Irvin confirms Troy Aikman had “all the baddest top things out there” (meaning top celebrity dates) (21:45, 22:23).
• Addresses being painted as the “bad guy” in documentaries, jokes about NFL partying, and how celebrity dating in the NFL is nothing new.

Drafting & Controlling Destiny

• Irvin reveals how he controlled which team drafted him, ensuring he landed with the Cowboys:

  “I designated Dallas, LA or New York. So I was going to end up where I wanted to be and not in any of those places.” (23:56)

Current NFL Events

• Justin Jefferson/Minnesota Vikings:

  “He's such a good dude. He's such a competitor... No matter what quarterback he's had, he's turned them into pretty, pretty good quarterbacks. And I think he'll get J.J. McCarthy there.” (24:49-26:10)

• Joe Burrow/State of the Bengals:

  “Isn't it funny how history somehow finds a way to repeat himself here again in Cincinnati?... I think he's just trying to light a fire up under the organization.” (26:10-27:30)

• Cowboys’ 2025 Season Grade:

  “There is no grade to give outside of a failure grade. The standard, Dan, is the standard.” (27:35)
  “Those are ornaments on the tree. That's not the Christmas tree.” (28:26)

• KC Chiefs/Mahomes:
  On the injuries, team building, and the necessity of surrounding Mahomes with more talent.

  “The weight got a little too heavy and it actually broke Patrick Mahomes. So now they have to start taking some of that weight off by putting better talent around.” (31:40-32:01)

• Troy Aikman vs. Patrick Mahomes:

  “No. No, I won't take Patrick Mahomes over Troy Aikman. I won't take nobody over Troy Aikman, including mom, dad, sister, brother, niece, nephew in my family.” (32:06)

Entertaining Cowboy Tales

• Laughs on whether Aikman dated Shania Twain or Lori Morgan, confusion over celebrity rumors (36:49, 42:07).
• Playful riffing about Troy Aikman’s 90s lifestyle, how it compares to modern athletes.

Super Bowl Pressures

• On the Bills and Josh Allen:

  “No, not super bowl or bust — a Super Bowl win. It's got to be a Super Bowl win...” (35:48)

Music & Legendary Concerts

[46:25-49:45]

• Callers recount seeing Led Zeppelin, Pearl Jam, and Grateful Dead.
• Dan shares Hootie & the Blowfish stories, including drunken on-stage mishaps.
• Debates over which surprising bands partied the hardest.

Fun Banter and Behind-the-Scenes Extras

[42:20-43:34, 49:45-51:19]

• Internal show voting on “Most Valuable” and “Least Valuable Danette.”
• On Jameis Winston’s notorious 30 touchdown/30 interception season:

  “They should do a 30 for 30 on the 30/30 season that Jameis has — he giveth and he taketh away.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dan Patrick:

  “Heroin always wins, you know, Heroin's undefeated.” (05:33)

• Michael Irvin on his reputation and NFL documentaries:

  “So, I guess in this whole documentary, I have to be the bad guy. [Emmitt Smith] looked at me and said, ‘Well, you kind of were.’” (22:37)

• Michael Irvin on managing his own draft:

  “Any team that would have drafted me that I didn't want to play for, I would have just dropped the class and gone back to school, and they would have lost their draft pick.” (23:56)

• On Cowboys’ standards:

  “The standard is the standard. I don’t want to hear how many records you broke this year… are you in the playoffs with a chance to win a ring. And they are not. That’s a failing grade.” (27:35–28:21)

• Michael Irvin’s loyalty:

  “There is nobody. I will take over Troy [Aikman] because… Patrick Mahomes is great… but Troy is the best timing throwing quarterback in the history of this game… not even Jesus himself.” (32:23, 33:37)

• Dan Patrick on catchphrases:

  “Everybody then had to have a catchphrase. It felt like if you were coming to SportsCenter. Hey, and I've got a catchphrase… that's the password to get in.”

• Michael Irvin closing:

  “You've been on the road a long time, DP. God has blessed you greatly.” (36:22)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:05 — Hour 2 Poll Question: The ultimate party era/person
• 11:15 — “The NCAA does not exist anymore...”
• 20:56–38:02 — Michael Irvin interview begins
  • 21:45 — Troy Aikman’s celebrity dating
  • 22:37 — Being “the bad guy” in Cowboys doc
  • 23:56 — How Irvin controlled his NFL draft fate
  • 24:49–26:10 — Justin Jefferson, Vikings, and quarterbacks
  • 26:10–27:30 — Joe Burrow’s situation/cryptic talk
  • 27:35–28:26 — Cowboys’ season: “Ornaments on the tree…not the Christmas tree”
  • 31:43–32:01 — Mahomes, Chiefs, and the toll of expectation
  • 32:06–33:37 — Aikman vs. Mahomes (loyalty to Troy)
  • 35:45–36:15 — Bills: “Super Bowl win or bust”
• 46:25–49:45 — Caller concert stories, Led Zeppelin and Grateful Dead memories, Hootie & the Blowfish story

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Summary

This episode blends nostalgia with sharp sports commentary, fueled by stories of wild music, NFL legends, and candid talk with Michael Irvin. With a playful look at the “craziest party eras,” lively banter, and real insight into today’s college and NFL scene, the show is both a trip down memory lane and a pulse check on current sports culture. Irvin’s appearance stands out for his charisma, unfiltered honesty, and affection for his Cowboy teammates — and the stories and myths that surround them.

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Recommended Segments:

• Michael Irvin’s entire discussion (20:56–38:02) for NFL fans and lovers of candid athlete storytelling.
• The opening poll and party stories (03:05–06:32, 46:25–49:45) for pop culture and music history buffs.

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You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. We got football tonight. We have five consecutive days and night of football and it'll be the Rams getting one and a half against the Seahawks in Seattle. Michael Irvin, the playmaker will stop by about 20 minutes from now. Phone calls are always welcome. Operator Tyler sitting by. Stat of the day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the program. And we say good morning, those watching on Peacock. Thank you for downloading the app and our radio affiliates around the country. IHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio. I didn't get an update on the poll results from the first hour. Seaton, can we do that? And do we have a new poll question for hour two? Yeah, we just got an interesting one here from Paul. Based off some of the discussions we've had in a guest we have coming up. Who would you most have wanted to kick it with? Kick it?

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Who would you most have wanted to kick it with?

[D]

AKA party.

[B]

Okay. Led Zeppelin in the 70s, Motley Crue in the 80s, or Michael Irvin in the 90s? Wow.

[D]

The Fair comparison.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

I would say I have to look at. What are the chances I could die, like high with all of them and then work my way back. I don't know how big a partiers Led Zeppelin was. I know John Bonham, the drummer was. But I don't know if Paige. Are you kidding me? I know they're like some of the most notorious part of years of all time.

[D]

Yeah, I kind of assumed. I didn't. Wasn't there for less.

[B]

Well, Motley crew, you know, I've. I've talked to somebody who actually stayed with them for a night. It took him a week to recover, but he did. He partied with them. They seem to. They didn't get cheated. Mike. Mike did. Well, Mike had fun in the White House and wherever else. I don't think he discriminated, but. Do you put the Stones in there? Stole me up. When they were in the south of France doing exile on Main street that they had to wake up members of the band to play on an album. That doesn't sound like fun to me. Gotta admit, south of France sounds awesome. Bunch of dudes strung out trying to make a record, though. Not it. Yeah, well, heroin will do that. It will.

[D]

We are getting soft.

[B]

Sours the party quickly. Got it. Gotta admit, heroin always wins, you know, Heroin's undefeated. I would probably want to party with Zeppelin just because it's Zeppelin, you know. One of my favorite bands of all time. Yeah, Paul.

[D]

I was going to throw Guns N Roses in there, but I thought I want to go decade by decade.

[B]

They're guns and posers.

[D]

Oh, really? Oh, I think they got after it.

[B]

I don't know they seem like they were like, oh, we gotta have Jack Daniels here backstage because Keith Richards did. Yes. I'm going with the playmaker. I want to hang with Michael. Yeah.

[D]

Pre social media 90s was kind of.

[B]

My era, so I. I would have enjoyed hanging with the playmaker. All right. I would probably say Zeppelin just to say that I partied with Zeppelin. Yes, Mark.

[C]

Yeah, I'm going with the playmaker, too. He did all that and won Super Bowls. That wasn't stopping him. And by all accounts, he was the leader of the Cowboys.

[B]

Yeah, well, I'd say T. Roy was.

[C]

He might have just been the quarterback.

[B]

Yeah, but he was still. He. He was, he was the guy who didn't go out. I mean, just the fact that he was Sandra Bullock, I think wanted to go out with him. I don't know if, if Troy ever talked about. I think I brought it up to him. I think he brushed it off quickly.

[D]

90 center bullets.

[B]

I think so. Yeah. Yeah. I think, you know, you're the quarterback of the Cowboys. I mean, that fixes everything normally. Yes, yes, Mark.

[C]

But who was the rest of the Cowboys following, though?

[B]

What do you mean?

[C]

They were going to Michael Ernest House. They weren't hanging out with T. Roy.

[B]

No, I think T. Roy was probably just doing damage by himself. Yeah, Davis single and mangling. But you know, Sandra Bullock in the 90s. Sandra Bullock from Speed.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

All of a sudden, T. Roy, he's eluding the rush, apparently.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Those were the days. You can't get away with that stuff now. All right, 8 7, 7, 3, DP show email address [e-mail] Twitter handle DP Show. A lot of college football coming up this weekend. Let me give you. Let me give you the menu. So we got college football. You got Thursday Night Football, but then you have the Xbox Bowl, Missouri State and Arkansas State, the Myrtle Beach Bowl, Kennesaw State and Western Michigan, the Gasparillo Bowl, Memphis against NC State. You have Alabama, Oklahoma, Miami, Texas A and M, Tulane, Ole Miss, James Madison and Oregon. It's a lot of football. That's just the college slate. And then, you know, the games. NFL games you got tonight. And then you're going to have a game on Saturday night as well. Yes.

[C]

Marvin, do you know the term yolo? Dp?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You only live once.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Michael Irvin did not get cheated. The hurricanes in the 80s at Miami and then the 90s Cowboys.

[B]

I don't know what was happening at the U.

[C]

Come on now. There was Uncle Luke.

[B]

They were Luther Campbell. That's Right. And Luke was, was Luther was paying the players back then.

[C]

Allegedly.

[D]

Properly.

[B]

Yeah, but that's where you, you know, they'll have documentaries on the, the. On the U. And then they'll ask, you know, Luther Campbell, were you paying those players? And then he just had this big smile on his face. But he was paying for big hits, big plays, which. Okay. I mean, now everything looks harmless. You know, when you hear the story about SMU and what they were doing, like nowadays that would be like, what's wrong? You guys aren't spending enough money? You're not giving away enough cars. But back then it's like, oh my God, Eric Dickerson, he got a Trans Am Gold. I think Dickerson's taken that to his grave. I don't think he's ever acknowledged that he got paid, but he was getting paid by two schools, I think, at the same time.

[D]

Right. So the story came out when Dickerson was the best school running back. There's a picture of him in his driveway with a gold Trans Am. And the story is A and M sent it over and they thought they had them. And then I guess SMU matched.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Or whatever.

[B]

They matched in a different way. And he kept the car.

[D]

Yes, he kept the car. Because who's turning in?

[B]

You can't say, hey, give us that car back that we gave to you illegally. But you know what's happening now. Talking to somebody yesterday and they said, you know these collectives, because there, there's a finite amount of money that schools can be paying, you know, their athletes, the collectives. Now the number that was given to me is you have to have about $40 million total to be able to build or maintain a championship caliber roster. Around 40 million. And what's happening is you have aunts, uncles, friends, distant relatives. They're getting money. So the player is going to get that money. But it goes through a third party there. And I told you about the high school player. I don't know where he signed. I told you there were two schools that were bidding for him. He was a high school senior and he was. His. His price was $3 million, but it was 3 million total. But they were signed. They're signing them in high school, they're signing them in as juniors. Like they're trying to get as early as possible. And all of a sudden you're signed up and now you're going to our university unless you say, I'm giving the money back. But this, this kid signed a three million dollar contract with a school, a big time school. But yeah.

[C]

There.

[B]

The NCAA does not exist anymore. It does not. I was told that yesterday. The ncaa, as you know, it does not exist. And that might be a good thing. Like, let's just start over, figure out what do you want to do, how do you want to do it? You want to have professional college teams, professional format, formula, blueprint, whatever it is. If you want to have the NCAA handle all of the secondary sports, great. But let's not kid anybody. It's business. It's big business. And everybody wants theirs. Yeah.

[D]

Paulie, Just to go back to the Eric Dickerson recruiting Texas A and M Trans Am story. Trans Am, A and M. Eric Dickerson was talking to his uncle, said he loved the Trans. Amy saw the uncles. This is a story in Sports Illustrated that from three years ago. Eric Dickerson ended up talking to a booster for A M and was asked about it. And the booster goes, we can make that happen. And Eric said they contacted his grandmother, put his grandmother on the title and agreed to reimburse the grandmother so it wouldn't raise any red flags. That's how it's done by pros. Put Graham on the. On the title.

[B]

Yeah, but SMU got busted.

[D]

Yes. Because what they did was they were sending players money in envelopes with a return address of the SMU athletic department. You watch, watch the documentary.

[B]

At least with Tennessee, when they were giving their players money, you know, it was in a fast food bag. Allegedly. Yeah, yeah. Some Tennessee people still frosty that I had. That story turned out to be true. Let's see Joey in Fort Wayne. Good morning, Joey. What's on your mind?

[E]

Hey, I was a first time caller. I was wondering what you thought if Notre Dame. I know in the early 60s they said they would go undefeated and not participate in the playoffs or if there was a playoff. But nowadays, if they went undefeated next year and just stayed independent. So.

[B]

We lost you there. If they go undefeated next year, they're in the playoffs. Matt in Ohio. Hi, Matt.

[E]

Hey, guys. How are you today?

[B]

Good, good, good.

[E]

I just wanted to throw in a couple more sorry catch phrases from Batman back in the day. The late great Stuart Scott, cooler than the other side of the pillow. And I may butcher this. Was it Rich Eisen that did. He's on his horse. It's a tiny horse. You can't see it.

[B]

I never. I haven't heard that. It sounds like something Kenny Maine would say. But everybody then had to have a catchphrase. It felt like if you were coming to SportsCenter. Hey, and I've got a Catchphrase, like, all of a sudden, that allowed you that, you know, that's the password to get in. You got a catchphrase? Yes, I do. All right. Come on in. Kendall in Houston. Hey, Kendall.

[E]

So I'm not a big music guy, but all my friends are. So I kind of just tagged along through the years, and I've been to some amazing concerts. One of the best ones was Eddie Better by himself at a theater in Houston, playing acoustic guitar the entire time. Nobody else but him for like an hour and a half.

[B]

I love it. I love it. Didn't he do a soundtrack for a Sean Penn movie? And I don't know what kind of guitar he played?

[D]

Yeah, Paulie, into the Wild was the name of the movie.

[B]

Yeah, Sean Penn directed and he did the soundtrack, which was awesome. Awesome sounds. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you hear that voice, you know that. That is. There's certain voices where you hear and you go, okay, I knew who that is. Scott in Virginia. Hi, Scott. What's on your mind today?

[E]

Hey, thanks for calling me back. I appreciate it. I need to piggyback on that. It's not what I called about, but I've seen Pearl Jam once. It was one of the best concerts I've ever seen. So if you get a chance, take it. But I called because I was really enamored with the fact that you were talking about catchphrases, and I was telling Tyler that when I was a kid, I don't know, 12, 13, 14 years.

[C]

Old.

[E]

At Memorial Stadium in Baltimore, my dad used to take me and my brother to the Orioles game whenever the Yankees were in town. And because my favorite player was Dom Mattingly and I was one of those baseball card nerds standing outside the bus waiting for the players to come off. And you were there, and I asked you if you would say, excuse me, Don Mattingly gone, and you did it, and I've remembered it forever.

[B]

Well, I don't remember it, Scott, but I'm going to take your word for it. I was there at Memorial Stadium for the last game that the Orioles played there before they went to Camden. And remember I was doing a report on that, that all those great Oriole teams. Great baseball town. Great baseball town, by the way, on Sunday night. Sunday night, Drake May and the Patriots collide with Lamar Jackson and the Ravens. That'll be Sunday, 7 Eastern on NBC. And Peacock, Michael Irvin will join us coming up next. More of your phone calls as well on this Thursday. We're back after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey is Cavino and Rich from Fox Sports Radio. Now, in addition to hearing us live weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, we're excited to announce on a brand new YouTube channel for the show. Yup, that's right. You can now watch Covino ENRICH Live on YouTube every day. All you gotta do search COVINO and RICH FSR on YouTube again. Go to YouTube search COVINOENRICH FSR. Check us out on YouTube. Subscribe hit that thumbs up icon and comment away.

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More of your phone calls coming up. He's the playmaker. Hall of Famer Michael Irvin. They like to call him Irv. And beginning at 11am Eastern, Mike will be part of Netflix NFL Christmas game day. Leading into the Cowboys Commanders 1 Eastern, followed by the Lions Vikings at 4:30 Eastern. Also, Mike appears on the podcast. It is what it is twice a week. Good to see you again, Playmaker. How are you?

[C]

E, N, P, DP D. You know you're a bad man when you get known by two letters. Dnp. Dp. What's up, my brother? How you doing?

[B]

Everything's good. Everything's good. We were talking about the Cowboys in the 90s and that Sandra Bullock. Did she date Troy Aikman?

[C]

Oh, I. You know, Troy Aikman dated a lot of superstars. Everybody now think these power couple things are something fresh and new. You know, these new kids, they think they come up with all the great ideas. But Roy was doing all of that back then. I mean, I mean all of them. You know what I'm saying? Somehow, some way. Well, I guess that hotel incident helped me out a lot. I got that. I. I got you Know, I got tagged with being the. The woman thing and all of that, but you had all the baddest top things out there, so. So, yeah, that. That's been out there for a while.

[B]

But he was quiet, though, you know, Troy was under the radar. You were the radar. You were the Raider.

[C]

It was so funny. Right? When documentary was coming out, we were doing the premiere. It was Emmett and Jerry. All of us was at the premiere in la and. And we were going through the red carpet. I leaned over to him and I said, hey, E, I said, when you think about it, you, Troy, you guys require boys. Jerry gets final say on the documentary. So I guess in this whole documentary, I have to be the bad guy. Looked at me and said, well, you kind of were. I said, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right. Let's let it go. So, yeah, you're right. I'll let that go. You're right.

[B]

But do you look back that you got caught? Is. Was that a good thing, that you got caught?

[C]

No real criminal will ever say that.

[B]

Okay, All right, I'm still around.

[C]

So it was a good thing. Okay, I guess it's a good thing since we are here. You know what I mean? It's all good, but it's all good.

[B]

Imagine if you got drafted by Cleveland or Green Bay. You couldn't have gotten in trouble there.

[C]

I won't imagine that. That's why I made sure I control my draft by graduating as a junior. Remember? Now, back then, if you. If you wanted to go to league, go to the league early, you had to graduate. So I graduated as a junior and decided to go. So any team that would have drafted me that I didn't want to play for, I would have just dropped the class and gone back to school, and they would have lost their draft pick. I designated Dallas, LA or New York. So I was going to end up where I wanted to be and not in any of those places.

[B]

Help me understand. If you're Justin Jefferson and you're not getting the ball like you once were getting, and you've gone through, what, three or four, five different quarterbacks here, and you still don't know if you have your quarterback and J.J. mcCarthy, can you see a scenario where all of a sudden Justin Jefferson's like, get me out of here.

[C]

Well, Minnesota is Justin Jefferson's place. And I think they've done a good job of letting everybody know that. And I think Justin Jefferson, I love. I love. Justin Jefferson is a great, great dude. I consider him their great friend. I get to Talk with him every now and then and his brother and all of them. I always tell his brother, make sure you're watching over him so he doesn't have any Mike Irving moments out here. You know what I'm saying? But. But the thing is, man, Dan, he's such a good dude. He's such a competitor. Justin. Justin. When he was in high school, him and Jamar Chase, my old coach, Jerry Sullivan, called me then. He said, michael, I thought, because I, you know, he said, michael, I finally found a guy that's as competitive as you. I was like, who you're talking about? And he was talking about Justin Jefferson then. So, you know, no matter what quarterback he's had, he's turned them into pretty, Pretty good quarterbacks. And I think he'll get J.J. mcCarthy there. And I think right now he's taking a paid from Terry McLaren. Remember how Terry McLaren started when Jaden Daniels got there and, and he wasn't getting any passes, but he handled it right. And, and when Jaden Daniels got around later on that season, they really turned up. So I'm expecting that to happen because he's that kind of receiver.

[B]

What is Joe Burrow telling us without maybe really telling us?

[C]

Isn't it funny how history somehow finds a way to repeat himself here again in Cincinnati? This is the Carson Palmer situation. Is Joe trying to say, man, this just ain't right. This ain't working, or. Or, you know, is he talking about possibly retiring early? I don't think. I don't think he's talking about walking away from the game. I think he loves the game way too much. So when I'm looking at it, I, I look at this. Think about this as. As a shout to the Bengals, man, we mess around every year we put this defense. You didn't even want to pay the top defensive player that you had. You didn't want to pay to draft the guy you drafted on defense in the early rounds. And you have me over here going up, going through it. So, yeah, you know, I. It's a cryptic message, but. But I. I don't think. I don't think he's going anywhere. I think he's just trying to light a fire up under the organization. But. And I think there's a lot of frustration with the injuries, you know, and up, down, and. And they're, you know, starting out slow and then trying to finish fast and. And all of that stuff. It does get frustrating if you can't get it like you want it on the football field.

[B]

Give the Cowboys season So far, a grade.

[C]

There is no grade to give outside of a failure grade. The standard, Dan, is the standard. That's exactly I, I was last week. I was at, at St. Thomas Aquinas High School. We won our seventh straight state championship. Coach Roger Harriet and Tuan Russell down there to AD. And that's the one thing we always talk about at St. Thomas. Greatest high school in the world. The standard is the standard. I don't want to hear how many records you broke this year. I don't want to hear what, what you did in statistics. I want to hear wins and losses and are you in the playoffs with a chance to win a ring. And they are not. That's a failing grade.

[B]

There's some things to build on though, right?

[C]

You got, you found other assets. You know, you found the George Pickens. I, I like what you've done with the interior defensive line, but still, Dan, those are ornaments on the tree. That's not the Christmas tree. Just tender is the standard. And you want to make sure that you're getting in the play. And here's the sad part. It's not that you don't have enough talent right now. You had enough talent on this offense to put up 30 points a game, 40 points a game. And you, you, for a while you were averaging 40 points at home. Why, with the kind of talent you have on that offense, did that dissipate? So, yeah, you, you got to get in the playoffs. That's just what it is.

[B]

Talking to Michael Irvin. Beginning at 11:00am Eastern, Mike will be part of Netflix NFL Christmas game day. That leads into the Cowboys Commanders and that's at 1 Eastern, followed by the Lions and the Vikings. Also, Mike is on the podcast. It is what it is twice a week. If you're a Kansas City chief fan, what are, what are you expecting next year?

[C]

And it's interesting because, you know, it's so sad to see the greatest offensive player in this league and one of if not the greatest defensive player industry goes down on the same Sunday and both with ACLs. But then I tried because, you know, I had that injury and I tried to look on the bright side, what's going on with, with Kansas City. And I thought this, when I saw it, I said that was so sad. I mean, I hate seeing him such a great dude and great ambassador for the league. But on the other side, on the other side, once you realize and understand now he's hurt, you start saying, wait a minute. Because you got to try to look at something, something good in this and Think about this, Dan. This way, even though it's unfortunate, he still gets to hold on to the mystique of being that guy. So. So now, you know, they were making. They were driving to have a chance at winning that game. And. And of course, he went down and your boy makes you get in and. And throw that interception. But. But, so, so now in their minds and in the city of Kansas City, they can still say, well, we only lost that game and didn't make the playoffs because we lost our Superman, you know, and the mystique of that Superman can still be in play next year. Had he gone down with the ship, I don't know, man. That had to be a whole different thing because most of those guys probably always think, no matter how bad the game is, as long as we got 15, we got a chance to win, you know, And. And today in this year, that didn't happen. So I believe Kansas City now has to start retooling all the way around, build around Patrick Mahomes. But you have to retool for so long. Then they kept taking away talent, taking away talent, saying we can throw anything in there and Patrick Mahomes will get it done. And he did. But at some point, the weight got a little too heavy and it actually broke Patrick Mahomes. So now they have to start taking some of that weight off by putting better talent around.

[B]

Would you take Patrick Mahomes over Troy Aikman as your quarterback?

[C]

No. No, I won't take Patrick Mahomes over Troy Aikman. I won't take nobody over Troy Aikman, including mom, dad, sister, brother, niece, nephew in my family.

[B]

Not even my brother Tom Brady. Okay. All right. I'm just curious. That's.

[C]

That.

[B]

That's the. That was the right answer there. Because you know how Troy is really sensitive, and if he heard about this, he'd start crying. You don't want that to happen, Mike.

[C]

I don't know Roy. I don't. I have never seen Roy real six video, you know what I'm saying? But then it was so funny. I wish I still had him here. I. I had all my rings up here yesterday. And I was messing around on my little. On my little locker room. The thing that I do it and. And all it is what it is. And I had all those rings up there and I was like. And this. This. This. This is because of Troy Aikman. I had my quarterback. There is nobody. I will take over Troy because I. This. I'm not. That. Patrick Mahomes is great. He he, he makes a second play or third play, but Troy is the best timing throwing quarterback in the history of this game. When North Turner got here and said, you get that third step and let that ball go, hit that fifth step and let that ball go, it became perfect and it was unstoppable. I will take no one at the quarterback position over Troy Aikman, not even Jesus himself.

[B]

Sam Darnold on display tonight, what kind of concerns do you have with Seattle the rest of the year and in the playoffs?

[C]

Well, this game tonight in Seattle and it's going supposed to be a little bit of rain and I think this is interesting because, you know, a lot of people I know are picking the Rams and the Rams look like the best team in the nfc. But this game is not just for the division, it is for the conference top in the conference. And think about that game in week 11. Then Sam threw four interceptions and they barely lost that game, 2119, you know what I'm saying? Matt Stafford threw for only 130 yards against that defense. It's going to be an interesting game. If Sam could get down those interceptions and just play within himself and let that defense win this football game for him. I'm leaning towards Seattle inking out this win with that great defense.

[B]

How much more pressure is on Josh Allen this year?

[C]

I believe there's a great deal of pressure on Josh Allen now. Why is that? Because you have to look at it. We said, well, if it wasn't for Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson and the Joe Burrows and then Josh Allen and the Joe, bro, Josh Allen can go all go off. Well, those guys aren't around and now you, you dealing with a whole bunch of babies and Drake May and Bo Nicks and all of those guys. If you can't get by them, that means you miss your moment and they came in and took your moment. So yeah, Josh Allen is under a lot of pressure to get it done. But, but all he has to do is go in that phone booth, man, and, and, and, and, and leave Clark Ken in the phone booth comes out Superman and he does his thing. So I believe he can get it done. He got it done in that game against the packers, the Patriots last week. So, so I, I, I believe he can get it done.

[B]

Is it super bowl or bust for the Bills?

[C]

No, no, no, not super bowl or bust a Super bowl win.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Or bust you. It's got to be a Super bowl win. They the elixir of getting to a Super Bowl. That's gone. They got the Four straight and didn't win any. You know what I'm saying? So they're like, don't tell me about getting there. Tell me about the victory when you get there. So that's how Josh Allen. And that's why the pressure is on. Josh Allen.

[B]

Good to talk to you again.

[C]

It's always good to talk to you, man, and say hello to your family and everybody, man.

[B]

I will.

[C]

Really. You've been on the road a long time, dp. God has blessed you greatly.

[B]

Well, I'm the Troy Aikman of talk show host.

[C]

You're right. You're right. You're making them pass, and you're making them all time, and there's no greater thrower when you hit those words.

[B]

But I didn't. I didn't date Sandra Bullock, though.

[C]

Yeah, which. Which was the other girls. He dated.

[B]

Twain.

[C]

All of you? Yeah, he had all. That's the singer, right?

[B]

Yeah. Troy dated Shania Twain.

[C]

Troy had them all, man. I don't know.

[B]

What do you mean, man?

[C]

Hey, you think this Taylor Swift truck, man. Troy did all that stuff, man?

[B]

He didn't date Madonna, did he?

[C]

Hey, hey. No, he dated Madonna. Troy stayed up there at the top thing. Troy came home after one game, and there was some girls, I guess, in his backyard in his pool. He called the police on. You know what that went down, like in the locker room. We were like, why.

[B]

You wouldn't. You wouldn't have called the police.

[C]

What y' all drinking?

[B]

Happy holidays, Irv. Thank you, buddy.

[C]

Yeah. I love you, man. It's great talking to you again. Happy holidays to you, too.

[B]

Michael Irvin. He'll be part of Netflix's NFL Christmas game Day Cowboys Commanders. He never disappoints, ever. He's the best, Irvine. Hey, criminals don't apologize, all right? Got a point there, Mike. Ah. I didn't know Troy dated Shania Twain.

[D]

Yeah, Paul, I could find nothing about.

[B]

That on the net.

[D]

Back to you if that's confirmed.

[B]

Yeah, well, I know. Yes, Todd, don't call the police on.

[C]

The girls at the pool.

[D]

Call us.

[B]

Invite us over for a party.

[C]

What are you doing?

[E]

You're ruining it.

[B]

We'll take a break. We'll get some more of your phone calls coming up. We're back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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You'Ll be able to vote for Most Valuable Least Valuable Danette. Also most valuable Backroom Guy as well. So we'll let you. You can vote Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, and then Tuesday at the end of the show. That'll be our last show before the holidays. We will unveil our least and most valuable bayonets.

[D]

Yes, Paulie, I know they would never do it, but imagine if sports leagues did. Least valuable player. Think about that for a second. Like how someone has paid 45 million Ben Simmons type player.

[C]

Yikes.

[B]

And Jameis Winston is your winner. That was years ago. Yeah, the first 30 for 30. They should do a 30 for 30 on the 3030 season that James has that he giveth and he taketh away. Being the journalist that I am, I think Michael Irvin may have mistaken Shania Twain for Lori Morgan, who's a country singer. Yeah, it's not as good a story, but Troy Aikman dating Lori Morgan, a country singer, and Shania Twain but we don't know about. There's nothing I haven't seen anything about Shania Twain and Troy Aikman.

[D]

And we're really looking.

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Yes, we are. Yes, we are. Still driving that trusty old ride. Keep it looking sharp with Mako from Dense Dings, faded paint. They got you covered. Free estimate today. Oh, better get Mako, man. I've known Mike for a long time and he brings energy. When you're around him, you have to elevate your energy level and that's not easy to do. You've been through, been through some things. He's put himself through some things. But you knew when he was on the field you were going to get a every bit of effort that he could muster. He always played that way and even talked about, you know, the high school coach saying that, you know, he found some, you know, wide receiver, two wide receivers that were as competitive as him. And they talk about Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson, which is saying a lot about them. Mike in Florida. Good morning, Mike. What's on your mind?

[E]

Hello. Hey, how you doing?

[B]

Hey, Mike.

[E]

Hey, I just wanted to tell you about old time recruiting. I was working. I was at Kenesha's college. I was playing football there. And Nick McCartchuk out of. Remember Nick? He was our coach at that time. And he asked me, hey, Mike, could you recruit this guy from. Oh, from Canada. His name's Rec. I said, yeah, I'll take him around. You want him have a good time ago, Nick Wings. He goes, I want him to have a real good time. He was 7 foot, so I took him out. You know, we never waited in line for a bar. We walked in, there's always shots and beers everywhere. Next thing you notice girls all around. I have a van with the shag carpet in the back. Well, needless to say, I don't know.

[B]

Where we're heading with that with the van with the shag carpet. And I'm not sure who the seven footer was from Canada. Maybe it's best that I don't know. Thank you, Mike. Otto in Los Angeles. Hey, Otto. Hey, how you guys Got a bad connection there? Jim in Wisconsin. Tyler, make sure these guys got good connections when you answer the phone. Hey, Jim. Good morning, Dan.

[E]

Long time listener. First time caller five eight. A beer manish, 230 pounds. I used to listen to you years back. You were on a radio station in Milwaukee and you're talking about the catchphrases and calls, and you used to have the squeal of approval.

[B]

Was that on laser 103? Yes, it was. Yeah. Yeah. Bob and Brian, I think they're still doing it. What a great morning show. Lot of fun, you know, just natural guys that, you know, certain guys that you say, they sound like Wisconsin. Bob and Brian, they were really a lot of fun. Thank you, Jim. Mark in Iowa. Hey, Mark, what's on your mind today?

[E]

Hey, Dan, thanks for taking my call. First time caller 61185. I've got a couple of music things for you. I know you're a big Led Zeppelin fan. I saw them live three times. First time was in 1970 at the Honolulu Civic Center. It was general admission. I was like three feet from the stage. Also wondered if you had any special experiences taking your kids to concerts. In 1995, I took my 14 year old son to Summer Fest on Saturday night and saw Pearl Jam. We drove down to Chicago on Sunday, saw the Grateful Dead at Soldier Field. It turned out Jerry passed away a couple weeks later and that was the last show they ever did.

[B]

All right, I've been to Hootie and the Blowfish with my kids, I don't know if I've taken the whole family. I'm not a big concert guy. I. I just don't like the hassle of, you know, going and parking and everything that goes along with it. Now, if you let me stand on the side of stage, then, you know, I like doing that. If I have a beer cooler at my feet, then I like that. That. That became kind of the norm when I would go to Hooting the Blowfish, that I would always stand on stage. If, as you're looking at the stage, I'd be on the left. Dean, the bass player, was always over there. And then they would just have a big cooler of beer. And then there'd be a bottle of Jagermeister, which I didn't need. Jaegi. But, you know, have a couple of beers. You know, it was the 90s, and you have. I remember that Darius got so drunk one night, and it was in Hartford, I believe, and he forgot the lyrics to a song. And he came over and asked. So we. He's on stage. And he came over to me because I had asked him to sing that song that night. So prior to the start of the show. And I said, hey, can you. You sing this song? He goes, yeah. Say, put it on the sheet. The, you know, play sheet. And he started singing. Forgot the damn lyrics. He walks over to me and he said, how's the song go? And, you know, people are going, what is going on here? And I said, I don't know. And. And so he kind of stumbled his way through the song, I guess. I don't think he ever played that song again. But he. He forgot the lyrics. And he's asking me. But I think he was. I think he was in his cups maybe prior to the start of that. That's when. That's when. Hooting the. You know, Darius brings this up when they do, like, behind the Music. People find out that Hootie and the Blowfish, they partied, like, really hard. You know, they've had divorces, they've had rehab. They've had a lot of different things. So when you go Zeppelin, the who, My Motley Crue. Hootie and the Blowfish. Yeah. Should we add Hootie and the Blowfish into the poll question now? Because I survived Hootie and the Blowfish. Yeah. But, yeah, they. They. A couple of them went at it pretty hard there. Yes.

[D]

Paul, which rock star or band would surprise you the most that they partied hard? Like, if you heard Rick Astley used to get after it. That'd be a shock.

[B]

Well, like, if somebody said, man, Ed Sheeran, that guy could party. Be like, you don't want any part of that. Like, okay, like, I don't know, the Jonas Brothers, Right?

[D]

One of them has to party.

[B]

I don't know. I don't think so. I don't think. Then they have the purity rings. Didn't they have those? Yeah, I don't know about that. Yes, Marvin.

[C]

And there was a moment in time where they threw those things away.

[B]

Well, no, I just put him to the side.

[C]

Sure.

[B]

Yeah. Hey, I got my purity ring on. Hey, when's Sally coming over? Oh, she's here now. Here, take this ring. My purity ring. You hold on to this for a second. Yeah, just. Just for the night. I'll take it back tomorrow. Update the poll results, Seaton. Now that the hoodie and the blowfish exemption has been added in, I'm not sure I trust this voting anymore. I'm telling you, they. They party. They party like rock stars. I will tell you that. Who would you most have wanted to kick it with? Kick it with Led Zeppelin in the 70s, Motley Crue in the 80s, or Michael Irvin in the 90s? I am very disappointed in this audience. Michael Irvin is currently in third place. Led Zeppelin has 45% of that vote. What are we doing? Two hours in the books. One more to go. Gang's all here, ready to go. Fired up. We're bringing the energy. We're kicking it next hour.

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