Hour 2 – LSU Coaching Search, Jay Bilas

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 2: LSU Coaching Search and Jay Bilas Interview

Date: October 30, 2025
Host: Dan Patrick and The Danettes
Podcast: The Dan Patrick Show (iHeartPodcasts & Dan Patrick Podcast Network)

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Overview

This episode of The Dan Patrick Show focused on two central themes:

1. The fallout from LSU’s decision to part ways with football coach Brian Kelly, including the unusual involvement of Louisiana’s governor in the ongoing coaching search and national trends in college football contracts.
2. A deep dive into NBA and basketball conversation, anchored by an extended interview with ESPN's Jay Bilas. Topics included insights on Victor Wembanyama, international players' impact in the NBA, and the shifting landscape of talent evaluation.

Throughout, Dan and the Danettes maintained their signature blend of humor, banter, and insightful sports analysis.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Dodgers’ Postseason Struggles (02:57 – 06:51)

• Dan Patrick opened with baseball talk: The Dodgers’ ongoing troubles scoring in the postseason—averaging just 3.5 runs in their last 13 playoff games and struggling against a “hitting-dominant” Blue Jays team.
• Dan discussed the Dodgers’ lack of momentum going into a must-win game against Toronto, highlighting stats about their recent postseason struggles.

Notable Quote

“Four runs in the last 29 innings against the Blue Jays. And the Blue Jays aren’t a pitching dominant team, they’re a hitting team.”
— Dan Patrick (03:20)

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Poll Questions & Light Banter (06:52 – 11:31)

• Ongoing Polls: Listeners were surveyed on whether the Ravens or Mike McDaniel had a more pressing “must-win” situation, and World Series outcomes.
• Show Banter: The Danettes teased each other about mistakes made on previous quizzes and recapped a mix-up involving Oscar Robertson and the number 11, sparking running jokes (“11!” still referenced by producers).
• Paulie and Todd discussed generational slang: “6, 7” joke’s time-lag between kids and adults, poking fun at local news being behind on youth trends.

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LSU Coaching Search Chaos & College Football Contracts (11:48 – 21:10)

Governor’s Public Rebuke (Clip 1: 12:32 – 13:14, Clip 2: 13:57 – 14:15)

• Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry publicly criticized LSU athletic director Scott Woodward:
  • Slammed Woodward for Brian Kelly’s “10-year, $95 million” contract, which left LSU with a $54 million buyout.
  • Noted Woodward’s similar “bad contract” for Jimbo Fisher at Texas A&M.
  • Declared Woodward would not be involved in the next coaching hire, joking, “I’d let Donald Trump select before I let him do it.”
• Governor pressed for contracts with more accountability, decrying the “rewarding failure” climate in college football.

Notable Quotes

“This is a pattern. The guy that’s here now...cost Texas A&M 70-something million dollars. Right now we got a $53 million liability. We are not doing that again...I’m tired of rewarding failure in this country and then leaving the taxpayers to foot the bill.”
— Gov. Jeff Landry (12:32)

“Scott Wood is not selecting the next coach. Hell, I’ll let Donald Trump select [him] before I let [Woodward] do it.”
— Gov. Jeff Landry (14:01)

• Dan and the Danettes weighed in on contract trends:
  • Dan: "Don’t go over five years. In today’s college football climate, nobody’s staying for ten years.”
  • Paulie made the point that “no current coach is going to consider LSU” on a leaner deal, listing Lane Kiffin as the one big name who might force LSU’s hand.
  • The group contemplated established names (Lane Kiffin, Dabo Swinney, Dan Lanning) but largely agreed that a long-term mega-contract is increasingly impractical.

Notable Quotes

“No one’s staying around for 10 years, whether they want to leave or you want them to leave. Sustainability is so difficult now.”
— Dan Patrick (15:13)

“He [Brian Kelly] was never a good fit. But I can’t give you 10 years—that’s an eternity in college football now.”
— Dan Patrick (16:23)

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NBA: Victor Wembanyama and International Stars (27:26 – 39:50)

Austin Reaves’ Big Game (27:15 – 28:34)

• Paulie highlighted Lakers’ Austin Reaves dropping 28 & 16 against Minnesota, noting “he had the jumper over Rudy Gobert.”
• Banter about the Hall of Fame status of “the Stifle Tower,” Rudy Gobert, and the changing criteria for All-NBA teams.

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Feature Interview: Jay Bilas (28:45 – 39:50)

Wembanyama Hype & Unique Talents

• Jay Bilas described Wembanyama as the most unique player he’s ever seen since Zion Williamson, drawing a Ralph Sampson comparison:

  “If Ralph Sampson were born 21 years ago, he’d probably be in the Wembanyama atmosphere...He was put down the post. If he were allowed to play today’s game...I think he could be in that atmosphere.” (28:55)

• “He’s like a 7-foot-6 praying mantis with the skills of a 6’1” guard...He’s playing his game more in the paint and making his presence known from 15 feet and in. His effectiveness has gone way up.”
  — Jay Bilas (30:03)
• Bilas dismissed the “Europe vs. USA” narrative around development, stating that now, “the world’s too big...Basketball [is] the second most popular sport, behind soccer.” (31:20)

International vs. U.S. MVPs

• Jay Bilas predicted a non-US five would be “really hard to beat” and named Jokic, Wembanyama, Doncic, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, and Giannis as frontrunners.

  “The top five candidates for MVP are all foreign born...We're not going to have all the best players anymore.” (32:39)

• Compared the situation to the Ryder Cup format in golf.

Cooper Flagg & NBA Young Talent

• On Cooper Flagg’s rookie performance: “He was asked to play the point guard position in his first NBA game...That's a challenge...But he’s the real deal. Like most rookies, he’s going to have his ups and downs.” (34:13)

Austin Reaves’ Path

• Bilas reflected on undervalued NBA prospects: “Austin Reaves...can really shoot it and he's tough. But did I think, 'okay, he’s going to be a great NBA player at that time?' No. That's happening more and more now, where players blossom later.” (35:24)
• On scouting: “All 30 teams missed on Jokic. It’s not like someone’s got a magic formula.” (36:56)

Evaluation Misses and College Game Outlook

• On biggest misses in projections: Bilas cited Anthony Bennett and Markelle Fultz, adding, “Players are so young, it’s hard not to over-project at times. The longer I do this, the more I realize…we’re kind of guessing here.” (37:00)
• Best NCAA player now: Braden Smith (Purdue PG), cited for skill and fit.
  “He’s the best point guard in the country, and I don’t think it’s close...You can do it the ‘right’ way, like Matt Painter does [at Purdue].” (38:31)

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More Listener Calls and NFL/College Coaching Banter (41:39 – 54:32)

• Debate on Defense in the NBA: Discussion on rim-protection's decline; Wembanyama’s block stats.
• College to NFL Coaching Path: Listener floated Mike Tomlin for LSU; Dan explained why NFL coaches aren’t interested in college jobs given recruiting, NIL, and headaches.
  • “I can’t imagine Mike Tomlin having the patience to deal with that...He has a hard time dealing with just questions at a press conference, it feels like.” — Dan Patrick (51:38)
• Alternative LSU coach names: Talk of rising coordinators like Kelvin Sheppard but skepticism about taking a jump without head coaching experience.

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

“You could get a BBL, you could come in flat and leave thick as a Snicker...Ain’t nobody got no patience no more!”
— Deion Sanders, on American impatience in coaching turnover (48:55)

“If you pay attention, then you don’t have to apologize.”
— Paulie, on Danette’s quiz mix-ups (09:34)

“I just think somehow, some way I’m gonna end up missing...You just threw a pop [quiz]...these things happen.”
— Todd Fritz, on the anxiety of live shows and quiz segments (09:29)

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Important Timestamps

• Dodgers playoff struggles: 02:57 – 06:51
• Poll results and quiz banter: 06:52 – 11:31
• LSU coaching search & governor’s press conference: 11:48 – 18:52
  • Governor Landry’s press conference: 12:32, 13:57
• NBA stats, Wembanyama, Hall of Fame chat: 27:15 – 28:44
• Jay Bilas interview: 28:45 – 39:53 (key sections: Wembanyama hype, international players, Cooper Flagg, scouting misses, NCAA standouts)
• Deion Sanders on ‘impatience’ in coaching: 48:55
• NFL/College coaching banter: 51:26 – 54:32

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Tone and Style

• The show’s style stayed conversational, humorous, and opinionated, balancing deep dives with plenty of good-natured ribbing amongst the Danettes.
• Even serious subjects, like buyouts and public firings, were addressed with wit and accessible analogies for average sports fans.

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Summary for New Listeners

If you missed this hour, you missed a rapid-fire mix of sports news, inside information, sharp debate on college football’s business side, and an extensive, information-packed discussion with Jay Bilas about the NBA’s new wave led by Victor Wembanyama. The episode also features famously irreverent show banter and calls, making it lively and accessible whether you’re a hardcore fan or a casual listener.

Transcript

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[Paul]

I turned off news altogether.

[Paulie]

I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to div.

[Dan Patrick]

People, we got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America Is moderate.

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[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, we got two up there right now. We have more. Must win tonight for the Ravens or Mike McDaniel. 61% have the Ravens. And for the rest of the World Series, you have Blue Jays and six, Blue Jays and seven or Dodgers in seven. Blue Jays and six right now, barely ahead of Blue Jays and seven.

[Paulie]

Okay. All right. And then are we going to keep those up for this hour?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, we'll roll with those for a little bit. We'll probably get one here from the to double D for a little fun a little bit later.

[Paulie]

Okay. Yes. Todd is working on his Halloween names for tomorrow. And I said how about a rhyme time as well?

[Todd]

We will do both.

[Paulie]

All right. Can you do that?

[Todd]

And featuring feats Dan Orlovsky and you.

[Paulie]

Could still be involved in today's show.

[Todd]

And I can pay attention where you can ask me a question. I won't say a name when you were looking for a number and vice versa.

[Paulie]

What happened yesterday?

[Paul]

Because I heard the first part of.

[Todd]

The question and I took a chance. I was in the middle of an email with the NFL Network or something which I probably should have waited. I definitely should have waited. It didn't have to be done at that second. And I Thought you were asking who is the last person to play or average 80 games or playing 80 games. And I said Oscar Robertson. And you were looking for a number of games. So they just. That was an epic fail.

[Paulie]

Like 11 the number of players who played in. Right.

[Todd]

I'm still not getting. Right. And I said Oscar Robertson. So when you're looking for a number and someone says a name, it certainly proves that they didn't catch the full.

[Paulie]

Question because we didn't talk about it afterwards. You didn't want to talk about it. You didn't say, hey, I'm sorry for, you know, doing that.

[Todd]

I was moping more than I know you addressing the apology aspect.

[Paulie]

Yeah. And I need you to kind of stay in the moment.

[Todd]

Three hours.

[Paulie]

Yeah. That's all I'm asking.

[Todd]

It's not asking a lot.

[Paulie]

Yeah. After that. And do whatever you want.

[Todd]

I was bummed. I was angry at myself and I. It get the better of my emotions.

[Paulie]

Yes. Paul.

[Paul]

I would say, Todd, if you had a do over yesterday when we went to commercial break, I would have walked right into Dan's side and said, my bad. Won't do it again.

[Paulie]

Yeah, he didn't do it.

[Paul]

And then it goes away faster in my experience.

[Paulie]

Yeah. Didn't. You didn't do that.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Oddly, it had completely gone away until Todd brought it up.

[Paulie]

No, it was still there.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, was it?

[Paulie]

Oh, yeah.

[Paul]

Simmering.

[Paulie]

Yes, it was. He joked about it yesterday and I didn't respond to his joke when you sent me an email or a text.

[Todd]

That's true.

[Paulie]

And then you put Oscar Robertson in there. Yes.

[Todd]

I should have just pulled the band aid off and said, my bad. I.

[Paulie]

That's all.

[Todd]

Wasn't paying attention.

[Paulie]

Yeah, that's it.

[Jay Billis]

I'll.

[Todd]

I'll learn for next time. Actually, I won't be in that.

[Paulie]

No, there won't be a next time.

[Todd]

I'll make sure I hear the entire question. I'll be ready for any pop quiz whether I'm raising my hand or not.

[Dan Patrick]

Is this a prop bet on whether Todd will learn for next time and then next time when this does happen?

[Paulie]

Okay.

[Dan Patrick]

He will not admit that mistake again.

[Paulie]

Two and a half years. The over under is two and a.

[Dan Patrick]

Half years happen five more times.

[Todd]

I think there's a good chance that.

[Paulie]

I by the end of the year.

[Dan Patrick]

Easy.

[Paulie]

Yeah.

[Todd]

There's a good chance I will guess something wrong, but I will apologize for it quicker or apologize at all.

[Paulie]

Well, if you pay attention, then you don't have to apologize.

[Todd]

I just think somehow, some way I'm going to end up missing all of a sudden you're going to go, todd, what do you think? I thought. I thought we raised our hand to talk. You just threw a pop.

[Dan Patrick]

Sorry, I was working on the lookie for later.

[Todd]

You know, these things happen.

[Paulie]

Okay, but just stay focused. Just stay focused. Okay?

[Todd]

I hope to not miss any of.

[Paulie]

And if you're going to send an email, send an email during a commercial break.

[Todd]

Yes, that was poor judgment on my part that I felt like I had to check that box at that moment.

[Paulie]

And.

[Todd]

And you caught me off guard because I missed the part of the question that you asked me. And I gambled. Instead of just saying, I should have just said, I didn't hear what you said. Then you could have just said, why aren't you listening? As opposed to guessing a name when you were looking for a number. That makes it 10 times worse.

[Paulie]

It was funny, though, where you were. I could tell that you didn't. You weren't listening. And then you tried to scramble and salvage it, but on the off chance.

[Todd]

That maybe I'm writing, you were looking for a name. Maybe it would have just been like, no, actually it wasn't Oscar Robertson. It was Frankie Jones. And then it would have been fine.

[Paul]

Yes, Paul, now, the irony is, yesterday you wanted a number and he gave a name. Two years ago, during some type of quiz, you wanted a name and he answered 11.

[Paulie]

11.

[Todd]

Now 11. And Oscar Roberts.

[Paulie]

That was haunting me. The 11 still is funny around here. You know, when all else fails and we don't know an answer, even the back room guys, they go, 11. Yes.

[Todd]

Speaking of numbers, do you hear about the six, seven thing that kids are saying? This is like a big. I didn't hear about it till yesterday on the news, but I guess for the last month or so, kids are saying six, seven or something.

[Paulie]

It doesn't mean anything.

[Todd]

Some from some rap song lyric or something, and everyone's giggling six, seven. Because the adults don't get it and they think they're missing out on something.

[Paul]

Yeah, yeah, Paul, I'm not going to go too deep into this, but it's at least four months old, this story, and the kids are already past it. And my daughter joked yesterday, when the adults get it, it's well over.

[Paulie]

Yeah, yeah. Six, seven. Yeah. Those kids, they're crazy.

[Todd]

A very popular old news station, New York decided yesterday they were breaking news about this 6, 7 thing. They had four months old, and they're just finding out about kids saying six, seven.

[Paulie]

All right, we'll get phone calls coming Up Jay Billis. He was on the call for Victor Wembanyama. Game was that opening night for Victor Wembanyama. Okay. And Jay was just gushing.

[Marvin]

Yeah, he called him the greatest player ever.

[Paulie]

He did.

[Marvin]

Okay. No, he didn't.

[Paulie]

Okay. But he just, he did sound like.

[Marvin]

It felt that way.

[Paulie]

Yeah. Yes, it did. All right, here's another story. The Louisiana governor is Jeff Landry. He told reporters yesterday that the LSU athletic director, Scott Woodward would not be involved in selecting LSU's next football coach, saying he would let President Donald Trump do it before Woodward. Okay, a joke. But still, this is your acting athletic director here today, of course, fired Brian Kelly. Now you got a settlement here and Brian Kelly's going to walk away with perhaps $54 million. And well, here is the governor yesterday at the press conference.

[Jeff Landry]

This is a pattern. The guy that's here now that wrote that contract cost Texas A&M 70 something million dollars. Right now we got a $53 million liability. We are not doing that again. And you know what I believe? I believe that we're going to find a great coach. You know, I'm not going to be picking the next coach, but I can promise you we're going to pick a coach and we're going to make sure that that coach is successful and we're going to make sure that he's compensated properly and we're going to put metrics on it because I'm tired of rewarding failure in this country and then leaving the taxpayers, you know, to foot the bill. Look, my role is about the fiscal effect of firing a coach under a terrible contract.

[Paulie]

Okay. So he criticized Woodward, the athletic director, for agreeing to a 10 year, $95 million contract with Brian Kelly. LSU is on the hook for $54 million. Woodward said that the school would, quote, continue to negotiate Brian Kelly's separation and will work towards a path for that's better for both parties. Now, the governor then also criticized his athletic director for agreeing to a similar one sided coaching contract when Texas A and M. He was the athletic director when Jimbo Fisher got his contract. We have another comment from the governor. Marvin.

[Jeff Landry]

Okay, selecting the next coach.

[Paulie]

Who's that? Scott Woodward.

[Jeff Landry]

No, I can tell you right now, Scott Wood is not selecting the next coach. Hell, I'll let Donald Trump select it before I let him do it.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know.

[Jeff Landry]

But the Board of Supervisors is going to come up with a committee and they're going to go find us a coach.

[Paulie]

That's SEC football right there. That's SEC football. Yeah, I'm going to throw my athletic director under the bus. Yes, Todd, real quick question.

[Todd]

What about the taxes and the unemployment rate and our streets need to be a lot more safe and all the kids don't have school book.

[Paulie]

Okay, but in fairness to the governor, this was not about the football situation. He was asked football questions and that was at the end of the press conference. I don't know what the press conference was about, but I know what it became about because it was about, you know, picking your successor to Brian Kelly and doing it in a fiscal way. Now, I don't know if this means, hey, how about not a ten year deal. Hey, maybe you don't get that coach because you're going to be tied up for 10 years and you should never be tied up for 10 years with a coach with that amount of money. And they, this athletic director has done it twice with Jimbo Fisher and now Brian Kelly. You may not get the guy you want, but you might get somebody who is on the precipice of being somebody and maybe you get them at a better price. Don't go over five years. Don't it. It in today's. In today's college football climate, nobody's staying around for 10 years whether they want to leave or you want them to leave. Sustainability is so difficult now. I'm not signing up for 10 years with anybody. I'd have a prenup. Yeah, Paulie.

[Paul]

So in theory, the governor is agreeing with what you're saying and he's going to have a more fiscally conscious contract forever. The next head coach of LSU is. I don't know if he realizes that's not the current trend in college football. And no current coach is going to consider LSU under those conditions. For example, Lane Kiffin, if he gets a call from LSU and says, we're going to offer you a six year contract and the buyout is light, he will not return their calls because Florida will not do that. They'll be with the old rules 10 years, 110 million.

[Paulie]

Even if I give 10 years to Lane Kiffin, he's not staying there 10 years.

[Paul]

But he will never join your football team.

[Paulie]

You know what? At some point I have to have some kind of continuity. I have to have where we're both in this together. And Brian Kelly was never a good fit. He wasn't. He's a really good coach. He's going to coach someplace. He's going to get opportunities. Vegas already has odds of where they think he's going to end up. He will Coach. But if you're going to try to even Indiana with Kurt Signetti, I, I love the story. He's been successful. I don't want to give you nine years. I'm going to give you five. I'm going to give you 5 top end dollars. But after that, then we, we go into this together and it's not his age. It's just, I can't give you 10 years. That's an eternity in college football now. But the governor's involved in this and I, you know, you got other younger coaches here that would love to coach LSU and maybe you sign them up for five years, maybe you get a friendly contract there. I mean, who are the marquee coaches that you have to give a 10 year deal to? James Franklin. I don't want James Franklin. Urban Meyer is not going to show up on the doorstep. The only guy that you would ever consider this or you might have to consider this is Lane Kiffin. Nick Saban's not coming back to lsu. Urban Meyer, the one guy is Lane Kiffin. All the other coaches, no, Ryan Day is not going to lsu. So who are the coaches? Where you go? We're gonna give him 10, 10 years. Kirby Smart's not going down. Like none of these coaches are, are going there. It's Lane Kiffin. That's it.

[Paul]

Yeah, Paul, I don't know if he'd look at it. There's no reports. But if Dan Lanning of Oregon put himself out there, it would be interesting to see what he got from lsu. Just young, energetic.

[Paulie]

But you're at Oregon, you're in the Big Ten. You got the financial resources that match Texas. You know, you got, you know, the boosters, Phil Knight, Nike. That atmosphere. Now I know he's an SEC guy, so I guess there's always that chance. Yes.

[Marvin]

Marvin, what about Dabo Sweeney? Only 55.

[Paulie]

He's going to want, he'll want a 10 year deal. But I don't, I don't want Dabo Sweeney for 10 years in today.

[Dan Patrick]

Definitely a 10 year guy, but I.

[Paulie]

Don'T want him, not in today's college football because it's not working at Clemson. Your model was not working at Clemson right now. It did, but it's not going to, it's not sustainable. You're going to go to lsu. What system are you bringing in to lsu?

[Paul]

Yeah, Paulie, I could see Sweeney because it's cooled off at Clemson right now and before you get a chance to be fired, remember the old Jimbo Fisher model at Florida State? I'm Cooling off. I'm cooling off. I'm going to run to A and m and get 10 years, 75 million. That could be what Dabo does before someone else tells him he's leaving.

[Paulie]

I hope LSU hires somebody who is, you know, an up and coming guy and get that opportunity. But, you know, maybe you get these guys who go, I could swoop in and get a big payday here. I. It feels like Lane Kiffin's gone. It just feels like that. And I brought this up about the documentary that I saw on the mothership. And there's no reason for him to leave Oxford given that his family's there, he's healthy now. There's a lot of positives there, what he's doing for Ole Miss. But I don't know if Lane has always got one foot in and one foot out. It just feels like that's his personality. Yes.

[Marvin]

Marv, do you think that the LSU brass would put up with a lower level, kind of no name head coach? Like, we're lsu. How come we don't have a big time coach? If they get some guy that came from a smaller school, they'd be like, who?

[Paulie]

Well, Ed Orgeron won the big name coach. Les Miles wasn't a big name coach. I'll take offense to that. I mean, Nick Saban became a big name coach, so I think it could be a launching pad.

[Paul]

Yeah, Paulie, Lane Kiffin does not make quite as much as some of the other coaches. I think he's. I don't think he's in the top. He's the 11th highest paid coach in the country as of this year. That win he had over Oklahoma last week actually triggered a one year contract extension for him and that will pay him 9 million. But that's at the back end of his contract. He is.

[Paulie]

All right. I pump him up two more million dollars. Yeah, I put him in $11 million. I keep him there. All right, let me take a break. Jay Billis gonna join us. More phone calls coming up as well. We're back after this in the Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's Cavino and Rich from Fox Sports.

[Jay Billis]

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[Paulie]

So Austin Reeves had 28 the game winner and 16 assists as the Lakers beat the Minnesota Timberwolves. I think the Wolves were without a couple players, weren't they, Marvin?

[Marvin]

No. Anthony Edwards last night.

[Paulie]

Okay. But did they have the stifled tower in there?

[Marvin]

They sure did.

[Paulie]

Oh, that's.

[Marvin]

That's who, that's who Austin Reese had the jumper over.

[Paulie]

Oh, okay. Well, it's a good thing that they had him or Austin Reeves would have gone for 45.

[Marvin]

Future hall of Famer Rudy Gobert.

[Paulie]

He is, he's going to be a Hall of Famer. He is. Because somebody had to be first team all probably when they were having center, two forwards and two guards and all.

[Marvin]

Those defensive player of the year awards.

[Paulie]

Yeah, yeah.

[Marvin]

So he'll, he'll get in.

[Paulie]

Wemby should have gotten it if he. But he didn't play enough games last year. But Wemby's going to be defensive player of the year this year. Yes.

[Paul]

Paulie, this is going to sound very harsh to Rudy Gobert, but can you be a Hall of Famer but also be a guy that you wouldn't want on your basketball team even in his prime?

[Paulie]

Wow.

[Paul]

No offense.

[Paulie]

Okay, move on. Is Jay Billis with us, Todd? He's all set. JAY Billis ESPN COLLEGE BASKETBALL ANALYST all of a sudden I'm watching the spurs game, there's Jay, and he is raving about Victor Wembanyama. When's the last time you raved about somebody like you did Victor Wembanyama?

[Jay Billis]

Wow. Probably Zion Williamson in college, something like that. Or LeBron, Kevin Durant, you know, when they were in college and coming into the draft. You know, it's rare that, that you have a guy that you're, you're looking at him going, I've never seen this before. And you know, you're, you're old enough. I'm not sure how much your audience is, but the, the only guy I could kind of compare Wembanyama to was Ralph Sampson. Like, if I really believe this. If Ralph Sampson were born 21 years ago, he'd probably be in the Wembanyama atmosphere because, you know, he was. Sampson graduated college in 83 and he was MVP, the All Star game in 85 and averaged over 20 and 10 with the Rockets before he got injured. And at 7 4, really graceful, athletic, very, very skilled. But he was put down the post. If he were allowed to play today's game, you know, I think he could be in that atmosphere. But there's, there's never been anything like Wembanyama at 76 or whatever he is now. He was standing next to Derek Lively the second, who's seven one, and he made him look like. It made it look like Derek Lively was standing next to you.

[Paulie]

How would you describe his game?

[Jay Billis]

He is. He's like a 7 foot 6 praying mantis that has the skills of a 6:1 guard. And he's, he's become more physical to the point where last year I think he was shooting about eight, almost nine threes per game and half the amount of free throws. And this year he's not taking near as many threes. I mean, he might be taking to a game and he's shooting a ton of free throws. I mean, he's playing his game more in the paint and, and making his presence known from 15ft and in rather than outside of that area. And his effectiveness has gone way up. I just think he's learning how to be more dominant in every aspect of the game. And he's only going to get better as long as he stays healthy. I mean, he's 21 years old.

[Paulie]

Yeah.

[Jay Billis]

And he's only going to get better. It's. It's crazy.

[Paulie]

But how much of his development do you lean on where he played that he didn't go to college, but growing up, you know, in academies, the pro development and the all around development that you find in Europe that you don't necessarily find here in the United States.

[Jay Billis]

I don't know that that's necessarily that big of a deal. Look, I think we have in the United States we've got a skill development culture of late and more of an AAU culture. So look, we're going to find something to complain about. I mean, when we were in college, the coaches complained that we played too much pickup ball and we didn't do enough skill work. And now they're complaining that they do too much skill work. They don't play enough pickup. Nobody plays pickup anymore and they don't know how to play five on Five. We're always going to complain about something, but I think what we wind up missing in this, Dan, and I'm not saying you, but, but you know, we tend to still have this narrative that, that foreign players are doing things substantially different than we are instead of looking at it like since the 92 Olympics and the Dream Team basketball has exploded worldwide. We still have most of the best players in the world, but we're not going to have them all anymore. And, and the idea like right now the top five candidates for MVP are all foreign born players. Shay Gilgames Alexander won it last year, he's Canadian. We're not going to have all the best players anymore. That's just not going to happen. The world's too big and basketball is the second most popular sport in the world behind soccer.

[Paulie]

But if I put a non US five against a US five, who would you take?

[Jay Billis]

A non US five against the US five?

[Paulie]

Yeah.

[Jay Billis]

So you're asking me? The international team? I mean I would take Jokic, Wembanyama, Doncic, Shay, Gilgis, Alexander, that crew, and they'd be really hard to beat. But, but we'd be compatible. It's not like we wouldn't win like we're still winning gold medals now. But the problem is like the, it's kind of like the Ryder Cup. You can't have just one country against the United States. We're still going to win that. But if you take the rest of the world combined, of course, of course that's going to be a problem. But like if, you know, if we were just playing, if the Ryder cup, if the US Ryder cup team was just playing Great Britain and Ireland now we, we dominate. That's why they went to Europe. That's why I say we still have most of the best players in the world. The overwhelming majority we still have, but we don't have them all.

[Paulie]

I get also Giannis on that. Non.

[Jay Billis]

Yeah, Giannis. That's the time. Thank you. That's the top five I was talking about for mvp. And the first American you're going mention American born players, probably going to be Anthony Edwards of Minnesota and he's further down the list for MVP right now.

[Paulie]

Talking to Jay Billis. He's got Duke in Texas on November 4th and Kansas, North Carolina November 7th. What did you make of Cooper Flag and his performance against the Spurs? Good.

[Jay Billis]

Not great. But I think you kind of expect that a little bit. Like he had a couple of things, if you want to say working against him. He was at 18, asked to play the point Guard position in his first NBA game, which certainly isn't an easy transition to make. He didn't play point at Duke. He's got point guard skills, obviously, and he was being guarded by Stefan Castle, who's one of the handful of the best defenders in the league, in my view. And you know, that that's, that's a little bit of a challenge for a player. And then once if you do get by your initial defender, you're running into wembanyama. So that's a challenge. He's had some really good games and really good moments, and like most rookies, I think he's going to have his ups and downs throughout the year, but. But he's the real deal. And what is he averaging? 13 points, seven rebounds, whatever. And he's made some great plays and he's made some that haven't been as great, but I think as he gets adjusted, that won't take too long to happen. He's going to establish himself as one of the best players in the league.

[Paulie]

Anything stand out from Austin Reeves when you saw him in college?

[Jay Billis]

Yeah. So Austin Reeves started his career at Wichita State. And the first time I really saw him play, I saw him before that. But what really saw him play was in Maui when he was with Wichita, and he had a shoulder injury and played through it. And my thought was, man, this guy can really shoot it and he's tough, but did I think, okay, he's going to be a great NBA player at that time, no. And then when he transferred to Oklahoma, you're going, man, this guy can really play. But still, you weren't thinking, like, I wasn't, I wasn't like, jumping, banging my fist on the table when he didn't get drafted, going, what are these guys doing? You know, this is idiotic. How can you not draft this guy? That's happening more and more now, where players tend to blossom a little bit later and. And you see more undrafted players having success in the NBA because it's not all about being a superstar. You know, you got the superstars that are in a small category in the lottery. And then I think I heard one of my colleagues last night, I think it was last night talking about, you know, how did, how did these guys go and drafted. How did Nikola Jokic go in the second round? Well, I don't remember any of those guys saying, why wasn't it happening at the time? You know, scouting's not easy. And, and you're gonna, you're gonna miss, like, all 30 teams missed on Jokic. In the first round. So it's not like, it's not like somebody's got a magic formula of spotting this stuff in advance. You know, you do the best you can, but Austin Reeves is a, he's a stud. He's a, he's a tough guy.

[Paulie]

Who's the guy? The player that you thought he was going to be great and didn't turn.

[Jay Billis]

Out to be, thought was going to be great. God, there have been a whole bunch of them. I don't have one off the top of my head, Dan, that I was like, oh, my God, I thought this guy was going to be unbelievable. I mean, there have been, there have been a bunch that, you know, we scratched our heads the year Anthony Bennett from UNLV was taken number one by Cleveland. Like, I didn't see that coming, but I also didn't see him being, being out of the mix as quickly as he was. I didn't see the Markel Fultz thing coming. Like, who could have, who could have imagined that he'd have sort of issues that weren't related to his talent that would be so debilitating for him? But there have been a lot of guys that, that we've over. Like, the players are so young, when you're evaluating them, it's hard not to over project them at times because you've seen other similar players, similar comps that did extraordinarily well, and you go, man, he fits the suit of this guy. So that, that happens too. And that's why I think the longer I've done this, the more I've come to, come to realize for myself that, you know, like, we're kind of guessing here. You do the best you can, but you don't know. You believe. Like, I believe this. Like, when LeBron came out, I felt like I knew. Like I, I, but, but I've gone more to, I, I really believe this.

[Paulie]

Who's the best player in college basketball this year?

[Jay Billis]

The best play. Well, we've got an unbelievable group of freshmen that are going to dominate the top of the draft. So BYU's got AJ Devanza and Duke's got Cameron Boozer. Kansas has, has Darren Peterson. So all these guys are going to compete for the number one pick. If I had one player I could have for a team, I would want Braden Smith of Purdue, the point guard. He's the best point guard in the country. And I don't think it's close. And while a lot of people around the college space are, are wringing their hands and predicting doomsday about, you know, there are no rules and it's the wild, wild west and all that stuff, which it's not. Purdue is keeping their players and they're not. They're not getting McDonald's all Americans every year. And they're winning at a really high level. So the idea. You can't do it in this transactional world. I love that word, that word transactional. Can't have relationship anymore. It's all transactional. As if. As if a scholarship wasn't a transaction. Those were transactions. But you could. You can do it and quote, unquote, do it the right way, like Matt Painter does. You don't have to. You don't have to, you know, sell out and all that stuff. It's possible.

[Paulie]

Good to talk to you.

[Jay Billis]

Always good to talk to you. Thanks, Dan.

[Paulie]

Thanks, buddy. That's Jay Billis. Jay will be on the call. Duke in Texas on November 4th. Kansas, North Carolina, November 7th. He called the Victor Wembanyama spurs game against the Mavs in Cooper Flag. Anthony Davis is injured again. Now, that's a guy going to be a Hall of Famer. But I don't know if I want him on my team just because he shows you the glimpses and you go, oh, my God. And then he doesn't play. You know, when Barkley gives you the nickname Street Clothes, that's not a good nickname. Yes, Mark.

[Marvin]

Well, there's a difference. There's a difference between Anthony Davis and Rudy Gobert. You know, Anthony Davis can play and be a big part of a winning team. Rudy Gobert is just tall.

[Paulie]

Well, he's still. He was defensive player of the year, what, four times?

[Marvin]

But who's playing defense?

[Paulie]

Well, you need to have that rim protector, Marvin.

[Paul]

They love that at the draft.

[Paulie]

You gotta. He's a rim protector. Yeah. Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

In the Olympics, Rudy Gobert was on the bench in a gold medal game.

[Paulie]

You don't have to tell me. I kept saying, you can't have these center, two forwards, two guards. Basketball is not that anymore. And you were recognizing guys because, well, we got to have a center. Who's it going to be? Rudy Gobert. I'd be like, okay, he's not one of the top 15 players in the league. Defensive player of the year. Okay? Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

DeAndre Jordan was first team all NBA one year.

[Paulie]

That's true.

[Marvin]

No knock to him. But not first team, all NBA.

[Paulie]

Yeah. Had to have a center. Yeah.

[Paul]

Paul shot blocking is pretty dead in the NBA. Besides Wembanyama, he's at 4.8. The only one over two is Miles Turner of Milwaukee there? It used to be there'd always be a bunch of guys in the threes and fours with blocks per game.

[Paulie]

I don't know if guys are going for him anymore. I don't, I don't know. And I don't know, you know, how many guys take it to the basket. But I don't know if you're, you know, do I want to go for that? You know, how about I wait for the rebound here? But yeah, you don't find too many guys attacking the hoop the way they once did. All right, let me take a break. More of your phone calls coming up right after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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[Todd]

And the.

[Jay Billis]

Oh, one.

[Paulie]

Vladdy rocks a ball, left field and deep. Back to the wall.

[Dion Sanders]

It is good.

[Jay Billis]

Again, back to back blast in the first, and in three pitches, the Blue Jays lead two.

[Paul]

Nothing.

[Paulie]

You can just hear that sound, just hear it even through the crowd. You know, the crowd noise there and just certain sounds. And that's what, you know, when Ohtani gave up the home run to Vlad, like, he, he whipped his head around really quickly. And Ohtani, of all people should have known. Oh, that's gone. But you don't want to do this where you, you throw the pitch, hits the home run, and then you just ask for the ball from the umpire. Like you have to give it a little of, man. Did he get all of that? Yes, he did. Take another ball, please. I quoted Deion Sanders yesterday, and I said to Marvin, Dion had to say this to cameras or radio people. And. And he was talking about that nobody has any patience in college football as far as hiring and firing. Well, certainly firing. And he had a couple interesting lines here. So I said to Marvin, can you find Dion's press conference? And here's a portion of Dion.

[Dion Sanders]

Everything is expeditious in this country. Everyone wants the quick fix, the quick things. You could. You got Mail order brides too, right? You get married, you know, right away you could get a bbl, you could come in the end flat.

[Todd]

Flat.

[Dion Sanders]

Flat is on nobody. And leave thick as a snicker. So you it is. This is a different country that we live in, man. Ain't nobody got no patience no more. I understand that and I don't either. I don't have patience as well. I want things done right now because I'm used to getting up there working, putting in the work. And you want the results from the work.

[Paulie]

You put in thicker than a snicker. The BBL's Brazilian butt lift.

[Paul]

Oh, thank you.

[Paulie]

Yes. Yeah. BBL. Yes. I had not heard thicker than a Snicker there, Marvin.

[Marvin]

Yeah, in the community, it's. Oh, the tail is oldest time. Oh, it is like, you know, old girl. Yeah, man. She's thicker than a Snicker.

[Paulie]

Really?

[Marvin]

Yeah. Naked in cold oatmeal.

[Paul]

All right.

[Paulie]

Wow. All right. All the food groups there.

[Marvin]

Yeah, you could use that if you want.

[Paulie]

Thank you. Let me see Jim in Portland. Hi, Jim. What's on your mind today? Oh, so 510, slim 165. And I just. Every time Dan says the back room guys, to me it sounds like you're saying the bathroom guys. And I thought it would make a good T shirt with Todd's little issue that he has. All right, well, thank you, Jim. The back room guys, not the bathroom guys. Cam in Florida. Good morning, Cam. What's on your mind? Hey, Dan. Hey. I was just want to chime in on the LSU coaching position. And I was thinking, I don't know how logistics would work on it, but I think Mike Tomlin, I think his time's about over in Pittsburgh. What do you think about Mike Tomlin? I'm not going to go down this road with Mike Tomlin because if you recall or you Google it, I spoke to somebody at USC and they told me their wish list there and I was told that Mike Tomlin was on the list. So I gave you some of the names that USC was considering. Well, lo and behold, somebody brought it up to Mike at a press conference and he wasn't pleased with me. I wasn't saying that he was interested in the job. I was saying USC was interested in him. Him. That was it. But Mike's not coming on the show anytime soon. Yes. Yes.

[Marvin]

Marvin, if you're an NFL coach, what would attract you, besides the observing amount of money to college football? Like, what would attract you to leave the NFL and recruit and then deal with nil no.

[Paulie]

No, nothing. No. I can't imagine Mike Tomlin having the patience to deal with that. He has a hard time dealing, you know, with just questions at a press conference, it feels like. But now I couldn't see him going, you know, I'm going to get away from the grind of the NFL and I'm going to go to lsu. But no, I would not attach any job to Mike Tomlin. None. Not just because I don't want somebody. Dan Patrick said that usc, you're interested in usc, and I never said it that way. It was. USC had a wish list and his name was on the wish list. Yes, Paul.

[Paul]

I mean, the NFL is so properly structured. There's free agency, there's caps, there's general managers who do all this stuff. You don't have to travel around places and talk to kids and parents. I mean, like Marvin said, I can't imagine the attraction unless you have to. Like, I don't think Bill Belichick in any way wanted to be a college football coach. Not wanted to?

[Paulie]

No.

[Paul]

That was his best option.

[Paulie]

Yes. When the Falcons said no to him, I said he won't coach in the NFL again. Chad and Austin. Hi, Chad. What's on your mind today?

[J]

Good morning, 68260 telling about the LSU job as well. And I'll bring us back to reality after that time on suggestion. Who I want as an LSU alumnus is Kelvin Shepard. I know you just said, why would you go to college if you're in the NFL? He doesn't have a head coaching job yet. There's not a lot of, you know, history of defensive coordinators, honestly, black defensive coordinators getting opportunities, you know, right away. And he went to lsu. He just, you know, keep Frank Wilson on the staff, keep Corey Raymond on the staff. Maybe call Coach O to coach the defensive line.

[Paulie]

Now. Coach O is not going back. They're not going to have him back at lsu. Too much baggage. But the guy you're talking about is with the Lions. Yeah. Yeah. Paulie.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paul]

If you're the Lions defensive coordinator, I don't know if you're leaving. You're on a fast track to be a head coach someday. Probably.

[Paulie]

Well, considering the last two coordinators got.

[Paul]

Head coaching positions, Lions are winning all the time. You're. You have a 50, 50 shot within the next two years, you get a head coaching job.

[Paulie]

Yeah, it's, it's tough to take somebody at a program like that who doesn't have prior head coaching experience. He might be an up and comer, but there's Nothing like being a head coach and everything that goes along with that and understand the totality of that when you're the defensive coordinator. All I'm dealing with are those guys and the defense and there's no interviews. I don't have to get in front of the media. I don't have to talk to the booster. I don't have to do any of that stuff. I'm not out there recruiting. You know, these are all the things that I, I wondered about. Belichick going to college and dealing with, you know, press conference. Got to deal with boosters, you got to deal with kids. Kids parent, you know, all of this stuff, all the minutia. Yeah. Paulie.

[Paul]

I think the only attraction of head coach in the NFL is the money. I bet a lot of guys would love to stay as coordinator. So I just coach. I don't have to deal with that side stuff.

[Paulie]

You're mean. You mean the attraction in college is the money you make. You would stay as a coordinator in the NFL. Yeah.

[Paul]

Even both. Even both.

[Paulie]

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