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Hour 2 – Luke vs. Owen, Albert Breer

The Dan Patrick Show

Tue Mar 10 2026

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 2: "Luke vs. Owen, Albert Breer"

Date: March 10, 2026
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network
Episode Theme: NFL Free Agency Reactions & Sports Culture, with lively discussions about celebrity careers, entertainment, and the intersection of sports and pop culture.

Overview

In this hour, Dan Patrick and the Danettes dive deep into the aftermath of NFL free agency’s opening, evaluating team moves, draft strategies, and future Super Bowl odds. The hour features extensive insight from Albert Breer, the "Monday Morning Quarterback," who analyzes key free agency transactions and forecasts NFL draft implications. Amidst the football talk, the show detours into a playful debate—whose Hollywood career would you prefer: Luke Wilson or Owen Wilson?—and explores the league’s evolving relationship with pop culture through the Atlanta Hawks’ controversial Magic City promotion.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NFL Free Agency: Team Moves and Market Impact

Chiefs' Big Moves:
- Signing Kenneth Walker Jr. III, making him the highest-paid running back in free agency history ($15 million/year).
- The addition is viewed as an "upgrade over Isaiah Pacheco," freeing the Chiefs in the draft to select the best available player with flexibility (06:22–06:47).
- Breer lauds the Chiefs for turning the devaluation of the RB market to their advantage:
  - “Top-end veteran running back who makes it to the free agent market has become a value... The Chiefs get that and Kenneth Walker.” —Albert Breer (24:41)
- Addressing nose tackle and safety with Kyrus Tonga and Alohi Gilman, adding "ascending" talents.
Other Notable Team Moves:
- Rams: Improved their secondary and are current Super Bowl favorites, per DraftKings (05:34).
- Ravens: Went "all in" and are among Super Bowl favorites, bolstered by additions like Max Crosby (08:17).
- Bills: Acquired DJ Moore.
- Niners: Added Mike Evans (viewed as a future Hall of Famer) to provide more weapons for Brock Purdy.
- Packers: Let go of Rashan Gary—Dan isn’t sold on their upgrades.
- Raiders: Spent aggressively, setting a positive cultural direction, highlighted by the signing of center Tyler Linderbaum (08:02, 29:41).
Draft Strategy Shifts:
- With Kenneth Walker signed, Kansas City can focus on replacing Kelsey or addressing WR/CB in the draft:
  - “Getting Kenneth Walker opens a lot of that up for them...” —Albert Breer (26:07).
- Discussion on drafting for “premium positions” vs. positional need, referencing the Lions’ previously criticized picks (28:05–29:37).

2. The AFC/NFC Landscape and Super Bowl Odds

Super Bowl Favorites Post-Free Agency:
- Rams, Seahawks, Ravens, Bills, Chiefs, Packers, Niners, Eagles, Chargers, Lions (05:34).
- Lions’ "window" questioned—recent misses and competition from improving divisional rivals (07:08).

3. Raiders’ Rebuild and the Fernando Mendoza Era

Strong emphasis on building culture and investing wisely, even if "overspending" is necessary to land key talent:
- “...if you’ve got to overpay because you haven’t been winning, then go ahead and do it.” —Albert Breer (30:15)
Linderbaum acquisition viewed as both a schematic and developmental boost (30:30).
Raiders’ other signings are strategic, exploiting depressed markets for off-ball linebackers and mid-level talent.

4. Dolphins Quarterback Moves and Rebuilding in Miami

Dan questions the point of acquiring Malik Willis while in a rebuild phase: "Why not just ride this out... and be in the mix for a true franchise quarterback next year?" (32:15)
Breer explains it’s a “credibility play”—to maintain player buy-in and bridge to the next franchise QB (32:51).

5. Kyler Murray’s Future: Minnesota or Elsewhere?

Kyler Murray "seems like a foregone conclusion" to Minnesota, but Indianapolis is a strong alternative.
His preference for being cut (vs. traded) is so he can pick a destination for football reasons, not money (35:16).

6. Cowboys’ “All-In” Approach

Dallas nearly landed Max Crosby and addressed the edge rusher issue by trading for Rashan Gary; could still target Trey Hendrickson (37:05–37:14).
More Cowboys’ defensive changes expected before the draft.

7. Luke vs. Owen Wilson: The Great Career Debate

Dan and the Danettes banter about whose filmography (Owen or Luke Wilson) they’d take.
- "Old School or Wedding Crashers?" Poll derails into nostalgia and personal connections (09:49–11:14).
- Dan: “I’m going Owen all day.” (09:53)
- Storytime: Dan recalls run-ins with Owen Wilson, Adam Sandler’s crew, and being in a movie with Luke Wilson ("The Ridiculous Six") (15:52–19:28).
Sidebar: "Would you rather have James Marsden’s looks or Paul Giamatti’s career?" Sparks debate on the value of looks vs. acting credibility (14:07–15:21).

8. Sports and Pop Culture Crossover: Hawks’ Magic City Promotion

The Issue: Atlanta Hawks' plan to celebrate Magic City (famed wing spot/gentleman’s club) during a game vs. Orlando Magic.
Controversy: The NBA pulls the plug amid rising concerns about the optics of associating a strip club with family-friendly events (45:30–49:31).
- Dan pokes at league hypocrisy:
  - “It feels hypocritical...here’s the NBA drawing the line…but meanwhile, what’s the point spread on the Hawks Magic game?” (47:02)
- The show questions how teams and leagues balance authenticity, promotion, and social responsibility.
- Dan and the Danettes joke about possible future promotions, debates around team marketing, and lingering merch (“Magic City” hoodies).

9. Listener Calls & Lighter Moments

Calls span from marathon mishaps and national pride (Kenyan marathoner loses to American after wrong turn) to inquiries on Super Bowl odds for neglected teams (Broncos) (42:54–45:28).
Dan muses about the ironies and intricacies of sports, pop culture, and society.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On NFL free agency strategy:
- “Just because you do something on the first day doesn’t mean it’s going to show up, let’s say, in December or January. But it does feel good.” —Dan Patrick (03:46)
On Raiders’ rebuild:
- “I think how about the culture you’re going to develop? I think that’s the most important thing.” —Dan Patrick (07:51)
On Chiefs’ approach:
- “The top end veteran running back who makes it to the free agent market has become a value.” —Albert Breer (24:47)
Career debate:
- “[Would you take] James Marsden’s looks or Paul Giamatti’s career?” —Dan Patrick, sparking a funny discussion on Hollywood casting (14:13)
On Magic City promotion:
- “Are we worried about the kids?... which is worse, having to explain there’s a gentleman’s club, or gambling’s available on your phone?” —Dan Patrick (48:00)

Timestamps for Key Segments

NFL Free Agency Reactions & Super Bowl Odds: 02:46–08:26
Luke vs. Owen Wilson Career Debate: 09:41–11:12
Hollywood Anecdotes & Celebrity Encounters: 15:52–19:02
Albert Breer’s In-Depth NFL Analysis: 24:21–38:49
Atlanta Hawks/Magic City Promotion Controversy: 45:30–50:20

Final Thoughts

This episode masterfully weaves the latest NFL offseason news with the signature humor and cultural commentary of the Dan Patrick Show. The thorough breakdown of team moves and philosophical draft questions is balanced by freewheeling debates on movie stars and a keen eye toward the ways sports and entertainment collide. For NFL fans, pop culture enthusiasts, or anyone who enjoys sharp, banter-filled discussion, this hour is both informative and thoroughly entertaining.

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Radio Hour 2 on this Tuesday, Dan and the Danette Dan Patrick show that Dan and the Dan Nets. I was singling out a Danette. Which Danette was I singling out? Obviously, Todd. It gets very sensitive. So, yes, Todd's here. The minister of humor, Seaton, Paulie and Marvin as well. Plus yours truly in the back room. Guys, we got a new poll question coming up. The Monday morning quarterback joins us on Tuesday. Albert Breer, who had the best day yesterday. And you know the common strategy in the NFL is that first day of free agency. All right, what did we do? What did my team do? Just because you do something on the first day doesn't mean that it's going to show up, let's say in December or January. But it does feel good. You know, here it is in March. Maybe you don't have good weather where you are and you're like, what's gonna happen? What can. How do I pick up my spirits? It's like the draft. You know, it's start of spring and you're like, all right, we got some guys here. We got some positives here to take us in through the summer. But take Alec Pierce, productive receiver, not a top 10 wide out, but free agency opened and he was the Object of Desire. $29 million. Kenneth Walker Jr. III, running back, big playability, not widely viewed as the best at his position. Super Bowl MVP, timings, everything. He's getting $15 million a year. That's the richest deal ever for a free agent running back. So you start to look at this and you go, well, the Chiefs did great yesterday. They got Kenneth Walker. I thought they were going to wait for Jeremiah Love. Because if you said, I can have Kenneth Walker or Jeremiah Love, I'm taking Jeremiah Love. But I get that rookie deal with Jeremiah Love as well. But here's Kansas City probably saying, we're number nine. We're not going to get him. He's probably going to go to the Titans, maybe to the Giants commanders. But if I'm Kansas City, you got to, you know, it's an upgrade over Isaiah Pacheco. You start to look at some of these moves and how it's going to impact what your team does or doesn't do in the draft. So we'll talk to Albert Brear about that coming up. I have the super bowl odds after yesterday, first day of free agency. DraftKings sent this out. The Rams are the favorites, followed by the Seahawks. Seahawks and Ravens have the same odds. Then it's Buffalo. Then it jumps to the Chiefs, Packers, Niners and Eagles. And the Chargers have the same odds, and then it's the Lions. So let's look at this. I like what the Rams did improve their secondary and they needed to Seattle, you lose Kenneth Walker. Charbonnet will be back. I believe he's under contract with them. The Ravens, that's a big move for them. So they went all in. The Rams have gone all in. The Bills, they go to DJ Moore. The Chiefs had a trade, then they signed Kenneth Walker. The Packers, Rashawn Gary, they got rid of him. I don't think they've upgraded so far. The Niners, you know, you're gonna get a future hall of Famer and I kind of like the move. I, I think Mike Evans is a great, I think he's a good receiver now. He's been great. He's going to be a Hall of Famer. But that's an upgrade for them because you know, they can get out from underneath the Brandon Iuk contract. I get Kittle back healthy and I give, I give Brock Purdy some weapons here because that team was banged up last year. So the Niners and the Eagles have the same odds. I don't know what Philadelphia is going to do with A.J. brown. Maybe he ends up with the Chargers, which would improve their odds. And then the Lions, that window, we talk about it all the time, that window. And then all of a sudden it starts to go in the other way, the opposite direction because it looked like Detroit was ready. They were armed and dangerous for three or four year run.

Albert Breer (24:21)

Albert oh hey Dan. I love what the Chiefs did. I think, you know, like if you look at kind of where they were going into the day, they needed to fill running back, they needed to fill nose tackle. They get both those addressed. The reason I really like the Kenneth Walker deal, I go back a couple of years and I remember, you know, when Derrick Henry, Josh Jacobs and Saquon Barkley did deals on the first day of free agency and there were a lot of people like, I can't believe teams are spending on running backs, all that stuff. And I remember taking a step back and thinking to myself, well, look at the three teams that did it. It was the Eagles, the Packers and the Ravens. And those aren't dumb teams. And so, you know, my thought on it at the time is this, have we gotten to the point now where teams are looking at and saying that position has been devalued to the point where it's become a value, Right? And so then I dug into a little deeper, talked to those teams. It was pointed out to me that Darnell Mooney got signed by the Falcons for about the same same at about the same rate that Barkley, Jacobs and Henry got. Which was insane to me, you know, when you think about the value of those players. So I think that the, you know, top end veteran running back who makes it to the free agent market has become a value. And so the Chiefs get that. And Kenneth Walker, a guy who can play on all three downs, had 133 catches over his four years in Seattle, something they really haven't had in a long time in Kansas City. They get Kyrus Tonga to fill their nose tackle role. They get Alohi Gilman to play safety for him. I think Tonga and Gilman, two guys that switched teams last year, are ascending now. So they get those guys. I think on the way up, you know, and, and I think the other thing it does, Dan, to me that's really important. This is going to be a big draft for the Chiefs after the Trent McDuffie trade. And I don't think if you're the Chiefs, you can count on Jeremiah Love falling to you at nine. So by getting Walker, it really frees them up to joke. Just go get the best player with a ninth pick and not have to trade up and they have the 9th, 29th and 40th picks. So if they want, they can go in and maybe get a Travis Kelce successor in Kenyan Sadiq. They go and get a receiver, like maybe a Carnell tape falls to them. They can go get a corner like, like, like Delane from, from lsu. You know, you just look at all the different things that they could do now in the draft and getting Kenneth Walker opens a lot of that up for them. So I really like what the Chiefs did all the way around and I think it sets them up to have a really great draft and have a different looking team around Patrick Mahomes when he gets back off the acl.

Albert Breer (27:28)

So I think for all those teams, the question you got to ask is like, how quickly are we going to get really, really good? Right? Like, so the thing about taking a running back that high is that like their rookie deal, like that's going to be a part of their prime because it's easier to plug guys in at that position and you can produce almost right away. And so, you know, I think for, for, for, for Arizona, for the Giants, for the Titans, you know, what it's going to take is a real sober look at your roster and, and saying to yourself, are we, are we in a position to do this? Rather than, you know, taking a tackle or a pass rusher or someone in a premium position. And I think that's sort of indicative of the overall makeup of the top 10. I, I made this comparison a couple weeks ago and I think it's a, I think it's an interesting one. Do you remember the Lions in 2023, what they did when they took Jameer Gibbs and Jack Campbell in the first round? Right. Do you remember how they were criticized for that, Dan? A running back and an off ball linebacker? Well, you know, now three years later, Jack Campbell's first team All Pro and Gibbs has made three Pro Bowls. Right. And so if you look at the guys who won a premium positions around them, I mean, I picked out 12 or 13 guys that were picked right around there and only Christian Gonzalez and Jackson Smith and Jigba are the same level or better than the two guys the Lions got. The reason I'm saying that is because, you know, I think that's going to be a question a lot of teams are going to have to ask is like do we take a premium position, a corner and edge rusher, a tackle, you know, in the top, call it 12 picks. Or do we go with an off ball linebacker, Sonny Styles or a running back in Jeremiah Love or a safety and Caleb Downs. That's sort of the makeup of the top end of the draft because you don't have a Miles Garrett type of edge rusher, you don't have a Joe Alt type of tackle. You're gonna have to compromise some. And so it does make for an interesting decision. But I think for the teams you mentioned, the important thing is going to be are we ready to take a running back and plug them in and maybe pass up on somebody who could fill a hole at a premium spot?

Albert Breer (30:15)

So they overspent on Tyler Linder bomb. But I, I, I think it was actually a good overspend. Here's the way I look at it. Like, I think center is probably a more important position than guard and especially in that offense. So like Trey Smith and Tyler Smith are at the top of the guard market right now, right around 24 million. So like let's say the value for Tyler Linderbaum was 23 or 24 million. Would you rather just spend the 3 million extra and get the player than risk losing them to the Commanders or the Browns or whoever was in it? If you're the Raiders, like 3 million isn't that much in the grand scheme of things. And if you've got to overpay because you haven't been winning, then go ahead and do it. Right. And what you get to me when you look at this is a guy who's a great scheme fit, he's a smaller guy for the position, but that doesn't matter as much in the Kubiak offense. He's athletic, he can pull. So all that's in place. And then in that, in that offense they put a lot mentally on the center, right? The center is a huge part of the pre snap operation when it comes to setting protections and all of that stuff that takes stuff off the plate of the quarterback. So that's going to take stuff off the plate of Fernando Mendoza. So by investing in Linderbaum, I think you're investing in Mendoza. So that's why I like that, that move. I think it's a scheme fit and it helps you with your young quarterback. And then, you know, as far as the other things they did, I think they took advantage of a depressed market for off ball linebackers and going and getting Quay Walker and Kobe Dean, they're taking a flyer in a former first round pick and Cody Pay, they're bringing back Eric Stokes. You know, who I think flashed again as a former first rounder at corner. You know, I think, you know, when you get past Linderbaum, I think you see a lot of sensible mid level moves. You know, they're not the top of the market but I think they're moves that could make them better, you know, in the short term, in the long term. So I like where the Raiders spent their money yesterday.

Albert Breer (32:51)

Yeah, I'm with you on all that. Like this is very clearly a rebuilding year. Like a tear it down to the studs year for them. Right. Like no question about it. I think it's a credibility play is the way I would look at it. I mean, look like I don't think there's any question that they're not going to be great this year. And you know, I think you Know, over the course of the next few weeks, the next couple months, I mean you're going to see the Dolphins really put a lot of eggs in the basket of the draft. And that's been the charge of ownership. You know, when they were going out and looking for a new GM and looking for a new head coach, a huge part of it was what we need to draft and develop better. And that's why they go and get a couple guys from the packers and John Eric Sullivan and Jeff Hathley because that place has been a player development machine over the years. And so I'm with you on like they need a draft better. They had fewer draft picks than any team in the league over the last four years. A couple of their draft classes out of the last five have been complete wastelands. They need to fix that and they're going to try and fix that that this offseason. At the same time, I mean you can't be the Cleveland idiots from minor, from, from major league. You know what I mean? Like if you're, if you're trying to, if you're trying to build a program. And so I, I do think like bringing in Malik Willis from Green Bay, you know, John Eric Sullivan and Jeff Halfley know exactly what they're getting with him at least gives you some credibility that you know, for the players who are on hand, we are going to give you a chance on a week to week basis. And you know, maybe we don't have Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes here, but we do have a guy that we can game plan with and a guy that we can compete with. And so just as far as like getting buy in from the players and, and energizing the team this year, I think Malik Willis does that and you know, I view him as sort of a high end bridge to whoever the next guy is. And maybe it's somebody like an Arch Manning or a Brendan Sorsby or C.J. carr or a Trinidad Chambliss, whoever it next year.

Dan Patrick (42:54)

Michael in Fort Wayne. Hey, Mike, thanks for holding. What's on your mind today? Hey, Dan, thanks for taking my call. I went back after the show yesterday and watched the LA Marathon, where the Kenyan runner went the wrong way, ended up losing by less than a second. What I hadn't noticed was that the person who beat him was an American. And I felt bad for the Kenyan guy. But then I also had this conflicting national pride because for Kenyans, marathons are like their super bowl and we won it. And then I immediately thought back to the Olympics, where in the gold medal hockey event, the United States beat Canada in overtime. And all of it just made me wonder, what country's national pastime will we ruin next? That's a great, great question. I don't know. We'll have to give that some thought. That's as thought provoking is, would you rather have Owen Wilson's career or Luke Wilson's career? But thank you for the phone call there. Hesper in West Virginia. Hesper, yes. What can I do for you? Okay, so you were reading off the odds for DraftKings for the next super bowl, and I was yelling the entire time, like, where? How did Denver slip off the list? Like, we were an ankle away from going to the Super Bowl. I feel like I agree. I got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 teams. That's all DraftKings sent me. So I don't have the odds for your Denver Broncos, but I know that Ram, Seahawks, Ravens, Bills, Chiefs, Packers, Niners, Eagles, Chargers, Lions. Maybe I can get Dylan on this, see if we could find the rest of that list to let you know where your Broncos stand. But thank you. Thank you for the phone call. 877-3-DP show email address dp@danpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP Show. I mentioned this. The Atlanta Hawks, they were going to have a Magic City promotional night to pay tribute to the great wing place Magic City. That also is a gentleman's club as well. Or maybe it's the other way around. It's a gentleman's club that they also have wings. I don't know if Marvin had wings when he and Mario went there when we did Celebrity Family Feud. Did you have any wings? I did not. I was busy.