Hour 2 – Luke vs. Owen, Albert Breer

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 2: "Luke vs. Owen, Albert Breer"

Date: March 10, 2026
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network
Episode Theme: NFL Free Agency Reactions & Sports Culture, with lively discussions about celebrity careers, entertainment, and the intersection of sports and pop culture.

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Overview

In this hour, Dan Patrick and the Danettes dive deep into the aftermath of NFL free agency’s opening, evaluating team moves, draft strategies, and future Super Bowl odds. The hour features extensive insight from Albert Breer, the "Monday Morning Quarterback," who analyzes key free agency transactions and forecasts NFL draft implications. Amidst the football talk, the show detours into a playful debate—whose Hollywood career would you prefer: Luke Wilson or Owen Wilson?—and explores the league’s evolving relationship with pop culture through the Atlanta Hawks’ controversial Magic City promotion.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NFL Free Agency: Team Moves and Market Impact

• Chiefs' Big Moves:

  • Signing Kenneth Walker Jr. III, making him the highest-paid running back in free agency history ($15 million/year).
  • The addition is viewed as an "upgrade over Isaiah Pacheco," freeing the Chiefs in the draft to select the best available player with flexibility (06:22–06:47).
  • Breer lauds the Chiefs for turning the devaluation of the RB market to their advantage:
    • “Top-end veteran running back who makes it to the free agent market has become a value... The Chiefs get that and Kenneth Walker.” —Albert Breer (24:41)
  • Addressing nose tackle and safety with Kyrus Tonga and Alohi Gilman, adding "ascending" talents.

• Other Notable Team Moves:

  • Rams: Improved their secondary and are current Super Bowl favorites, per DraftKings (05:34).
  • Ravens: Went "all in" and are among Super Bowl favorites, bolstered by additions like Max Crosby (08:17).
  • Bills: Acquired DJ Moore.
  • Niners: Added Mike Evans (viewed as a future Hall of Famer) to provide more weapons for Brock Purdy.
  • Packers: Let go of Rashan Gary—Dan isn’t sold on their upgrades.
  • Raiders: Spent aggressively, setting a positive cultural direction, highlighted by the signing of center Tyler Linderbaum (08:02, 29:41).

• Draft Strategy Shifts:

  • With Kenneth Walker signed, Kansas City can focus on replacing Kelsey or addressing WR/CB in the draft:
    • “Getting Kenneth Walker opens a lot of that up for them...” —Albert Breer (26:07).
  • Discussion on drafting for “premium positions” vs. positional need, referencing the Lions’ previously criticized picks (28:05–29:37).

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2. The AFC/NFC Landscape and Super Bowl Odds

• Super Bowl Favorites Post-Free Agency:
  • Rams, Seahawks, Ravens, Bills, Chiefs, Packers, Niners, Eagles, Chargers, Lions (05:34).
  • Lions’ "window" questioned—recent misses and competition from improving divisional rivals (07:08).

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3. Raiders’ Rebuild and the Fernando Mendoza Era

• Strong emphasis on building culture and investing wisely, even if "overspending" is necessary to land key talent:
  • “...if you’ve got to overpay because you haven’t been winning, then go ahead and do it.” —Albert Breer (30:15)
• Linderbaum acquisition viewed as both a schematic and developmental boost (30:30).
• Raiders’ other signings are strategic, exploiting depressed markets for off-ball linebackers and mid-level talent.

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4. Dolphins Quarterback Moves and Rebuilding in Miami

• Dan questions the point of acquiring Malik Willis while in a rebuild phase: "Why not just ride this out... and be in the mix for a true franchise quarterback next year?" (32:15)
• Breer explains it’s a “credibility play”—to maintain player buy-in and bridge to the next franchise QB (32:51).

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5. Kyler Murray’s Future: Minnesota or Elsewhere?

• Kyler Murray "seems like a foregone conclusion" to Minnesota, but Indianapolis is a strong alternative.
• His preference for being cut (vs. traded) is so he can pick a destination for football reasons, not money (35:16).

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6. Cowboys’ “All-In” Approach

• Dallas nearly landed Max Crosby and addressed the edge rusher issue by trading for Rashan Gary; could still target Trey Hendrickson (37:05–37:14).
• More Cowboys’ defensive changes expected before the draft.

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7. Luke vs. Owen Wilson: The Great Career Debate

• Dan and the Danettes banter about whose filmography (Owen or Luke Wilson) they’d take.
  • "Old School or Wedding Crashers?" Poll derails into nostalgia and personal connections (09:49–11:14).
  • Dan: “I’m going Owen all day.” (09:53)
  • Storytime: Dan recalls run-ins with Owen Wilson, Adam Sandler’s crew, and being in a movie with Luke Wilson ("The Ridiculous Six") (15:52–19:28).
• Sidebar: "Would you rather have James Marsden’s looks or Paul Giamatti’s career?" Sparks debate on the value of looks vs. acting credibility (14:07–15:21).

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8. Sports and Pop Culture Crossover: Hawks’ Magic City Promotion

• The Issue: Atlanta Hawks' plan to celebrate Magic City (famed wing spot/gentleman’s club) during a game vs. Orlando Magic.
• Controversy: The NBA pulls the plug amid rising concerns about the optics of associating a strip club with family-friendly events (45:30–49:31).
  • Dan pokes at league hypocrisy:
    • “It feels hypocritical...here’s the NBA drawing the line…but meanwhile, what’s the point spread on the Hawks Magic game?” (47:02)
  • The show questions how teams and leagues balance authenticity, promotion, and social responsibility.
  • Dan and the Danettes joke about possible future promotions, debates around team marketing, and lingering merch (“Magic City” hoodies).

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9. Listener Calls & Lighter Moments

• Calls span from marathon mishaps and national pride (Kenyan marathoner loses to American after wrong turn) to inquiries on Super Bowl odds for neglected teams (Broncos) (42:54–45:28).
• Dan muses about the ironies and intricacies of sports, pop culture, and society.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On NFL free agency strategy:
  • “Just because you do something on the first day doesn’t mean it’s going to show up, let’s say, in December or January. But it does feel good.” —Dan Patrick (03:46)
• On Raiders’ rebuild:
  • “I think how about the culture you’re going to develop? I think that’s the most important thing.” —Dan Patrick (07:51)
• On Chiefs’ approach:
  • “The top end veteran running back who makes it to the free agent market has become a value.” —Albert Breer (24:47)
• Career debate:
  • “[Would you take] James Marsden’s looks or Paul Giamatti’s career?” —Dan Patrick, sparking a funny discussion on Hollywood casting (14:13)
• On Magic City promotion:
  • “Are we worried about the kids?... which is worse, having to explain there’s a gentleman’s club, or gambling’s available on your phone?” —Dan Patrick (48:00)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• NFL Free Agency Reactions & Super Bowl Odds: 02:46–08:26
• Luke vs. Owen Wilson Career Debate: 09:41–11:12
• Hollywood Anecdotes & Celebrity Encounters: 15:52–19:02
• Albert Breer’s In-Depth NFL Analysis: 24:21–38:49
• Atlanta Hawks/Magic City Promotion Controversy: 45:30–50:20

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Final Thoughts

This episode masterfully weaves the latest NFL offseason news with the signature humor and cultural commentary of the Dan Patrick Show. The thorough breakdown of team moves and philosophical draft questions is balanced by freewheeling debates on movie stars and a keen eye toward the ways sports and entertainment collide. For NFL fans, pop culture enthusiasts, or anyone who enjoys sharp, banter-filled discussion, this hour is both informative and thoroughly entertaining.

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[Dan Patrick]

Radio Hour 2 on this Tuesday, Dan and the Danette Dan Patrick show that Dan and the Dan Nets. I was singling out a Danette. Which Danette was I singling out? Obviously, Todd. It gets very sensitive. So, yes, Todd's here. The minister of humor, Seaton, Paulie and Marvin as well. Plus yours truly in the back room. Guys, we got a new poll question coming up. The Monday morning quarterback joins us on Tuesday. Albert Breer, who had the best day yesterday. And you know the common strategy in the NFL is that first day of free agency. All right, what did we do? What did my team do? Just because you do something on the first day doesn't mean that it's going to show up, let's say in December or January. But it does feel good. You know, here it is in March. Maybe you don't have good weather where you are and you're like, what's gonna happen? What can. How do I pick up my spirits? It's like the draft. You know, it's start of spring and you're like, all right, we got some guys here. We got some positives here to take us in through the summer. But take Alec Pierce, productive receiver, not a top 10 wide out, but free agency opened and he was the Object of Desire. $29 million. Kenneth Walker Jr. III, running back, big playability, not widely viewed as the best at his position. Super Bowl MVP, timings, everything. He's getting $15 million a year. That's the richest deal ever for a free agent running back. So you start to look at this and you go, well, the Chiefs did great yesterday. They got Kenneth Walker. I thought they were going to wait for Jeremiah Love. Because if you said, I can have Kenneth Walker or Jeremiah Love, I'm taking Jeremiah Love. But I get that rookie deal with Jeremiah Love as well. But here's Kansas City probably saying, we're number nine. We're not going to get him. He's probably going to go to the Titans, maybe to the Giants commanders. But if I'm Kansas City, you got to, you know, it's an upgrade over Isaiah Pacheco. You start to look at some of these moves and how it's going to impact what your team does or doesn't do in the draft. So we'll talk to Albert Brear about that coming up. I have the super bowl odds after yesterday, first day of free agency. DraftKings sent this out. The Rams are the favorites, followed by the Seahawks. Seahawks and Ravens have the same odds. Then it's Buffalo. Then it jumps to the Chiefs, Packers, Niners and Eagles. And the Chargers have the same odds, and then it's the Lions. So let's look at this. I like what the Rams did improve their secondary and they needed to Seattle, you lose Kenneth Walker. Charbonnet will be back. I believe he's under contract with them. The Ravens, that's a big move for them. So they went all in. The Rams have gone all in. The Bills, they go to DJ Moore. The Chiefs had a trade, then they signed Kenneth Walker. The Packers, Rashawn Gary, they got rid of him. I don't think they've upgraded so far. The Niners, you know, you're gonna get a future hall of Famer and I kind of like the move. I, I think Mike Evans is a great, I think he's a good receiver now. He's been great. He's going to be a Hall of Famer. But that's an upgrade for them because you know, they can get out from underneath the Brandon Iuk contract. I get Kittle back healthy and I give, I give Brock Purdy some weapons here because that team was banged up last year. So the Niners and the Eagles have the same odds. I don't know what Philadelphia is going to do with A.J. brown. Maybe he ends up with the Chargers, which would improve their odds. And then the Lions, that window, we talk about it all the time, that window. And then all of a sudden it starts to go in the other way, the opposite direction because it looked like Detroit was ready. They were armed and dangerous for three or four year run.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paulie, two years ago in the playoffs, they were up at halftime and Lions fans were shopping for super bowl travel. And last year they missed the playoffs.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, man, I know, but you still have, you know, great receiver, good tight end, you got a good quarterback, great left tackle, you paid Aiden Hutchinson, you know, so I mean, those are great pieces to have to make a run. But you know, teams in your division, Minnesota, if they get Kyler Murray, they might be back to being a playoff team. Formidable team. Packers will be good. And then the Bears were expecting to be good as well. The competition level, that's where it changes. These teams don't stay bad for that long. Well, some do, but. And I like what the Raiders did. They, they spent money, they're spending money. Offensive, defensive line, and they're not ready to win now. But I think how about the culture you're going to develop? I think that's the most important thing. Are you moving in the right direction, getting the right people, having momentum in there? I, I hate losing Max Crosby, but it makes sense to lose Max Crosby right now. He wants to play, he wants to play for a winner and you're not ready yet, you'd be kind of wasting those next two years with him. He'll go to Baltimore and be. Baltimore is now one of the favorites to win the super bowl.

[Albert Breer]

All right.

[Dan Patrick]

8, 7, 7, 3, DP. Show operator Tyler sitting by. He'll take your phone calls. Seaton poll question results from hour one. And what are we looking at in our two Hour two. I think we're going to go with one from the tow assist running this. We have one here from him with their latest moves and if Fernando Mendoza proves to be the real deal. The Raiders are silver and back, question mark. And his answers are, you betcha, here they come. Or easy there. It's gonna be a while, especially in that division. Are they silver and back, question mark. They're not back. They're. They're, you know, they're trending. How's that? It definitely feels like they're winning. They're going in a. In a positive direction for sure. Right. They have like, like a hundred million dollars in cap space. They have all these picks. They got. Like they're doing well right now. Yeah. Probably the best they've done in a long time in terms of like. Hey, I think they're actually. Thank you. Owen Wilson moving towards. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that. Is that Owen or is it other Wilson? Luke. Thank you, Luke. Yeah, yeah, they kind of both. Yeah, that's.

[Albert Breer]

Owen's the Owens, the blonde.

[Dan Patrick]

Right. Luke has the daughter usually do the. Yeah, yeah. No, I think Luke does it too. I feel like Luke does, too.

[Paulie]

Whose career would you want?

[Dan Patrick]

Owen. Owen.

[Paulie]

Is that right?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I wouldn't do Wedding Crashers.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. All right, this is question and Luke did a movie with me.

[Paulie]

Luke did Old School.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, he was in Old School.

[Paulie]

That's pretty. That evens out quickly.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, Old school. Wedding Crashers.

[Paulie]

Oh, no.

[Dan Patrick]

Which one you got here? You didn't think you were getting that early on a Tuesday morning.

[Paulie]

I need a. To. I need a 20.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. So is it. Which is the better movie? Is that the question you're asking right now? Or you could be in either movie. Wedding crashers. Old school. Yeah. I'll let you take a minute. I'll let that kind of.

[Paulie]

This is.

[Dan Patrick]

Simmer a little bit in the room. The. The whole mood just like really, like got very serious. There's a little tension.

[Paulie]

Can we go back to sports?

[Dan Patrick]

The easy stuff, free agency, please. Come on, Todd. Did you see either one of those? I saw all of wedding crashes. I don't think I Saw all of old. So bits and pieces of it. I always end up putting it on, and it's already in the middle. So that's my. I can't do bits and. But I really liked Wedding Crash. All right. You know who's in those movies?

[Podcast Announcer]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Wedding Crashes had Wilson in it. And who's the one from the Notebook? That was really cute in that. Rachel McAdam. Yeah, Rachel McAdam.

[Albert Breer]

That was a great appearance.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Rachel McAdams adorable. Yeah. Yes, she. She is. Yeah. Wedding Crashers. Old school. All right. We're also putting up. Whose career would you want? Luke Wilson. Owen Wilson.

[Paulie]

Classic.

[Dan Patrick]

We had another one there at some point. Oh, yeah, Todd's. That's right.

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I don't want to spoil anything, but where you are, it. It keeps ramping up. I would trust season one. I'll. I'll defer to a caller or a listener that saw it, but paradise, season one turns out really well.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I'm trying.

[Paulie]

It's a snow burn. Because they're trying to surprise you with certain twists.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Paulie]

Old Reliable.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. No. Lincoln Lawyer. That's Old Reliable.

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[Dan Patrick]

That is. Great show.

[Paulie]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Great show.

[Paulie]

That show is crushing. I saw the numbers. It's crushing.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, yes. I think it was one or two on Netflix. Most watched. But Lincoln Lawyer, I don't know the actor. Who's the lawyer? Neve Campbell is in it. But it's good. I like it. That's some good characters in there. All right. Yes.

[Paulie]

Paul, that James Marsden from paradise, that's a good looking fella, huh? He's a one seed.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

He might be too good looking. You and I agree he might be

[Dan Patrick]

too good looking and we never have to worry about that. I'd be like, wouldn't it be nice if somebody said, man, you know, he's just too good looking? Yeah, not going to happen. Yes, Marv.

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But our movie stars supposed to be

[Dan Patrick]

too good looking or do you need

[Podcast Announcer]

like the Paul Giamatti types?

[Dan Patrick]

He's not a movie star. Yeah, he's not a marvel. We always bring up Paul Giamatti, you know, like guys who aren't good looking. Yeah, Paul Giamatti. The hell? Wow. The hell I do. But I would take Paul Giamatti's career over James Marsden easily.

[Paulie]

Oh, but you get James Marsden's looks because those don't go away. Like, if he goes into a lull as an actor, he still looks awesome.

[Dan Patrick]

James Marsden, Paul Giamatti is not going to get a role by his looks necessarily.

[Paulie]

I'd be fine with that.

[Dan Patrick]

He's not going to lose a role because of his looks. He's just a great actor.

[Paulie]

Could James Marsden be a really good actor? But he's too good looking for us to give him credit for being a great actor.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, it's like a comedian who's good looking. He's just not as funny.

[Paulie]

Right.

[Dan Patrick]

We like somebody who does it. Somebody who looks funny. Yes. Marvin. Yeah, that's like a comedian that's jacked.

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I don't want a comedian that I think can beat me up.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, somebody too good looking.

[Podcast Announcer]

But like Brad Pitt or like Denzel Washington.

[Dan Patrick]

Those guys that have played other people.

[Podcast Announcer]

Like, wait, you're way too good looking to play X, y and Z.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, that's why they're movie stars a la Vincent. Jeremy in Alabama. Hi, Jeremy. What's on your mind? 622 20. Number 48.

[Albert Breer]

You program number one in your heart, Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, the question we're having still, it's not old school versus Wedding crashers. It's still Luke versus Owen because Vince Bonds in both movies. Will Ferrell's in both movies. How do you go wrong by picking either movie? Oh, there's no wrong answer. I mean, that's why we have the question. We don't, we don't always give you a poll question with easy answers. We want to challenge you. Whose career, Luke or Owen? I'm going Owen all day. There used to be a bar. I don't know if it's still there. It's called the, the Teddy in Los Angeles. And it's the Teddy, it's the Roosevelt Hotel. And there was a bar there. And I remember going with friends of Sandler and you know, they said, you know, one of the guys said, hey, you're going to see a lot of names here. Don't embarrass us. I go, what am I going to do? They go, what? You know, just, we're not taking pictures. Don't ask for autographs. You know that people go here to kind of be able to hide. So I'm all right, I'm good. So I walk in, first person I see is Jonah Hill. Now this is Jonah Hill before Jonah Hill and he was there with Henry Winkler, the Fonz's son. So I'm with, I'm with Sandler's guys. And then they go, hey, this guy right here is going to be a big time star pointing to Jonah Hill. I go, oh, okay, well, nice to meet you. Walk to the bathroom. I'm walking. Owen Wilson comes out as I'm walking in. I go, hey. He goes, hey. He goes, what are you doing here? I go, what are you doing here? And he goes, I don't know. And then he kept walking. So I started to, I saw like four people. Like you go, oh, that's. It was like a wax museum. And it was kind of weird to just everywhere you looked you were seeing famous people, but they went there so they could hide. And, and I'm. I'm in there. I'm being a geek. I'm. Hey, you know who that is over there? And that. And then, you know, Sandler's guys go, hey, we're not doing that here. Yes, Marvin.

[Podcast Announcer]

But they were talking to you like

[Dan Patrick]

you were like some type of civilian. Well, Owen knew who I was. I just think he was surprised that I would be in there with that ilk, you know, Hollywood famous, sports famous, a little different. But then I had Henry Winkler son and Jonah Hill. They could not stop talking about USC football. And, you know, but, you know, they weren't really famous, but the other people, you know, there were a couple of famous actresses in there. And you're like, you know that. And then you're like, okay, maybe I can't tell anybody that I can't take pictures. I can say, you know, who I saw and everything. You did, Nadia? Yeah, I did. And. And then I was in a movie with Luke. Luke Wilson. He was supposed to protect me when I played Abe Lincoln. The. What was that? The Ridiculous six. Was that what it was?

[Paulie]

Doesn't he step out to get like a quick sandwich or something?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, no, he has to go to the bathroom. I think he has to go to the bathroom. And then I'm. I'm at the opera and I'm playing Lincoln and all of a sudden John Wilkes Booth comes by. Luke Wilson's character, he's like, hey, how you doing? Good, good. I'll be back. And then, of course, you know, we know what happened.

[Paulie]

And this is not based on a true story. It's kind of. That's not exactly how it happened.

[Dan Patrick]

No, No, I don't think so.

[Paulie]

The security guy. I have to go take a leak.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Can you imagine? The president got killed because you had to go use the bathroom. All right. Albert Brear, the Monday morning quarterback, he got side. Sorry, I had to go. What do you want me to do? Albert Brear, the Monday morning quarterback, will join us next here. Dan Patrick Show Be sure to catch

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[Dan Patrick]

Congratulations to Troy and Furman Fu. They have punched their tickets to the big dance. Get to more phone calls coming up. Update the poll results. He is the Monday morning quarterback kind enough to join us on a Tuesday morning. Albert Brear, who had the best day yesterday.

[Albert Breer]

Albert oh hey Dan. I love what the Chiefs did. I think, you know, like if you look at kind of where they were going into the day, they needed to fill running back, they needed to fill nose tackle. They get both those addressed. The reason I really like the Kenneth Walker deal, I go back a couple of years and I remember, you know, when Derrick Henry, Josh Jacobs and Saquon Barkley did deals on the first day of free agency and there were a lot of people like, I can't believe teams are spending on running backs, all that stuff. And I remember taking a step back and thinking to myself, well, look at the three teams that did it. It was the Eagles, the Packers and the Ravens. And those aren't dumb teams. And so, you know, my thought on it at the time is this, have we gotten to the point now where teams are looking at and saying that position has been devalued to the point where it's become a value, Right? And so then I dug into a little deeper, talked to those teams. It was pointed out to me that Darnell Mooney got signed by the Falcons for about the same same at about the same rate that Barkley, Jacobs and Henry got. Which was insane to me, you know, when you think about the value of those players. So I think that the, you know, top end veteran running back who makes it to the free agent market has become a value. And so the Chiefs get that. And Kenneth Walker, a guy who can play on all three downs, had 133 catches over his four years in Seattle, something they really haven't had in a long time in Kansas City. They get Kyrus Tonga to fill their nose tackle role. They get Alohi Gilman to play safety for him. I think Tonga and Gilman, two guys that switched teams last year, are ascending now. So they get those guys. I think on the way up, you know, and, and I think the other thing it does, Dan, to me that's really important. This is going to be a big draft for the Chiefs after the Trent McDuffie trade. And I don't think if you're the Chiefs, you can count on Jeremiah Love falling to you at nine. So by getting Walker, it really frees them up to joke. Just go get the best player with a ninth pick and not have to trade up and they have the 9th, 29th and 40th picks. So if they want, they can go in and maybe get a Travis Kelce successor in Kenyan Sadiq. They go and get a receiver, like maybe a Carnell tape falls to them. They can go get a corner like, like, like Delane from, from lsu. You know, you just look at all the different things that they could do now in the draft and getting Kenneth Walker opens a lot of that up for them. So I really like what the Chiefs did all the way around and I think it sets them up to have a really great draft and have a different looking team around Patrick Mahomes when he gets back off the acl.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm guessing the Chiefs did their due diligence, realizing that Jeremiah Love was not going to be there and they had to, they had to upgrade. So that means Titans, Giants, does Arizona entertain the idea of Jeremiah Love that high?

[Albert Breer]

So I think for all those teams, the question you got to ask is like, how quickly are we going to get really, really good? Right? Like, so the thing about taking a running back that high is that like their rookie deal, like that's going to be a part of their prime because it's easier to plug guys in at that position and you can produce almost right away. And so, you know, I think for, for, for, for Arizona, for the Giants, for the Titans, you know, what it's going to take is a real sober look at your roster and, and saying to yourself, are we, are we in a position to do this? Rather than, you know, taking a tackle or a pass rusher or someone in a premium position. And I think that's sort of indicative of the overall makeup of the top 10. I, I made this comparison a couple weeks ago and I think it's a, I think it's an interesting one. Do you remember the Lions in 2023, what they did when they took Jameer Gibbs and Jack Campbell in the first round? Right. Do you remember how they were criticized for that, Dan? A running back and an off ball linebacker? Well, you know, now three years later, Jack Campbell's first team All Pro and Gibbs has made three Pro Bowls. Right. And so if you look at the guys who won a premium positions around them, I mean, I picked out 12 or 13 guys that were picked right around there and only Christian Gonzalez and Jackson Smith and Jigba are the same level or better than the two guys the Lions got. The reason I'm saying that is because, you know, I think that's going to be a question a lot of teams are going to have to ask is like do we take a premium position, a corner and edge rusher, a tackle, you know, in the top, call it 12 picks. Or do we go with an off ball linebacker, Sonny Styles or a running back in Jeremiah Love or a safety and Caleb Downs. That's sort of the makeup of the top end of the draft because you don't have a Miles Garrett type of edge rusher, you don't have a Joe Alt type of tackle. You're gonna have to compromise some. And so it does make for an interesting decision. But I think for the teams you mentioned, the important thing is going to be are we ready to take a running back and plug them in and maybe pass up on somebody who could fill a hole at a premium spot?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, Commanders might be the landing spot for Jeremiah Love. We're talking to Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback. I like that the Raiders spent money. I like that they went out and they overspent for a center. But I, I gotta have the first line of defense for my quarterback. I gotta start with my center who is a high end center. I like that. And then they kind of filled in with maybe players that we're not too familiar with, but they will serve a purpose there. The Raiders spent money. Did they spend it wisely?

[Albert Breer]

So they overspent on Tyler Linder bomb. But I, I, I think it was actually a good overspend. Here's the way I look at it. Like, I think center is probably a more important position than guard and especially in that offense. So like Trey Smith and Tyler Smith are at the top of the guard market right now, right around 24 million. So like let's say the value for Tyler Linderbaum was 23 or 24 million. Would you rather just spend the 3 million extra and get the player than risk losing them to the Commanders or the Browns or whoever was in it? If you're the Raiders, like 3 million isn't that much in the grand scheme of things. And if you've got to overpay because you haven't been winning, then go ahead and do it. Right. And what you get to me when you look at this is a guy who's a great scheme fit, he's a smaller guy for the position, but that doesn't matter as much in the Kubiak offense. He's athletic, he can pull. So all that's in place. And then in that, in that offense they put a lot mentally on the center, right? The center is a huge part of the pre snap operation when it comes to setting protections and all of that stuff that takes stuff off the plate of the quarterback. So that's going to take stuff off the plate of Fernando Mendoza. So by investing in Linderbaum, I think you're investing in Mendoza. So that's why I like that, that move. I think it's a scheme fit and it helps you with your young quarterback. And then, you know, as far as the other things they did, I think they took advantage of a depressed market for off ball linebackers and going and getting Quay Walker and Kobe Dean, they're taking a flyer in a former first round pick and Cody Pay, they're bringing back Eric Stokes. You know, who I think flashed again as a former first rounder at corner. You know, I think, you know, when you get past Linderbaum, I think you see a lot of sensible mid level moves. You know, they're not the top of the market but I think they're moves that could make them better, you know, in the short term, in the long term. So I like where the Raiders spent their money yesterday.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm trying to understand the Dolphins. I wasn't surprised Malik Willis went there, but I was surprised that why not just let this season play out? Why not have Quinn Ewers play? You're not winning anything. So you're going to give away one of Malik Willis's, you know, one year out of three years. It's not a lot of money and I do, I do like him. Yeah, I just, why not just ride this out, you know, you're not going to be good once again. It's supposed to be a good quarterback draft next year. Why not be in the mix for somebody who is truly a franchise quarterback?

[Albert Breer]

Yeah, I'm with you on all that. Like this is very clearly a rebuilding year. Like a tear it down to the studs year for them. Right. Like no question about it. I think it's a credibility play is the way I would look at it. I mean, look like I don't think there's any question that they're not going to be great this year. And you know, I think you Know, over the course of the next few weeks, the next couple months, I mean you're going to see the Dolphins really put a lot of eggs in the basket of the draft. And that's been the charge of ownership. You know, when they were going out and looking for a new GM and looking for a new head coach, a huge part of it was what we need to draft and develop better. And that's why they go and get a couple guys from the packers and John Eric Sullivan and Jeff Hathley because that place has been a player development machine over the years. And so I'm with you on like they need a draft better. They had fewer draft picks than any team in the league over the last four years. A couple of their draft classes out of the last five have been complete wastelands. They need to fix that and they're going to try and fix that that this offseason. At the same time, I mean you can't be the Cleveland idiots from minor, from, from major league. You know what I mean? Like if you're, if you're trying to, if you're trying to build a program. And so I, I do think like bringing in Malik Willis from Green Bay, you know, John Eric Sullivan and Jeff Halfley know exactly what they're getting with him at least gives you some credibility that you know, for the players who are on hand, we are going to give you a chance on a week to week basis. And you know, maybe we don't have Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes here, but we do have a guy that we can game plan with and a guy that we can compete with. And so just as far as like getting buy in from the players and, and energizing the team this year, I think Malik Willis does that and you know, I view him as sort of a high end bridge to whoever the next guy is. And maybe it's somebody like an Arch Manning or a Brendan Sorsby or C.J. carr or a Trinidad Chambliss, whoever it next year.

[Dan Patrick]

Kyler Murray seems like a foregone conclusion he's going to Minnesota. Does that correct?

[Albert Breer]

I think he'd like to go to Minnesota. Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Albert Breer]

I think that's, I think that's a, I think that's a, that, that's a fair, fair guess.

[Dan Patrick]

But if not Minnesota, then where?

[Albert Breer]

Indianapolis. Like I, I, you know, do you, here's the thing. If you're Kyler Murray because you, you're gonna play on the minimum next year, right? So money is not an object. The Cardinals are basically paying you next year. So the reason Kyler Murray wanted to be cut rather than traded is because he wanted to go and he wanted to be able to pick his next destination for football reasons only. Right. So if you're Kyler Murray, is your best play to go to the jets or is your best play to go to the Colts if it's not the Vikings? Right. If you go to the Colts, you get to play for St. Shane Steichen. You'll get all the starter reps through the spring and summer. Maybe Daniel Jones is ready for the opener, but if he gets hurt again, then you get in and you'll have some familiarity with the players there. And they've got good offensive players and guys like Pierce and Warren and, and, and. And not Pittman anymore, but, but Jonathan Taylor, good offensive line. So I think those are the things you have to weigh, right?

[Dan Patrick]

Like if.

[Albert Breer]

If you're Kyler Murray, Minnesota, obviously be perfect. And I can tell you this, like, Kevin o' Connell has looked at these sorts of reclamation projects over the last couple of months in anticipation of being here, and they had such success resurrecting Sam Darnold's career a couple years ago that they're really interested in doing that with someone again. So my guess would be, like, where your guess is that he winds up with the Minnesota Vikings, but I think Geno Smith could wind up being a factor there, too. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

[Dan Patrick]

I bring up Jerry Jones, not to troll anybody here, but he's the one who was all in last year, and then he's going to bust the budget this year. What are they waiting on? Because I think they were in the Max Crosby sweepstakes.

[Albert Breer]

They were. They were in it till the end. Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Albert Breer]

I would say one name to keep an eye on for. For them would be. Would be Trey Hendrickson, especially if the market comes down a little bit like it seems to have. They did take care. They did address the edge rusher question, which is the biggest question for them coming into this off season in going and trading for Sean Gary. But I wouldn't be surprised if they're not necessarily done there yet. They've got a young player they really like and Donovan as a Rocco who was a rookie last year. So I think you could wind up seeing an addition there. They've obviously got the money tied up in George Pickens on the franchise tag. They paid Javante Williams and they did make the run at Max Crosby. I could also see them doing something at corner here in the next day or two. So I don't think they're done. But they did make a move right before the start of free agency and trading for Gary and I and I think Rashawn Gary's better than some of the edge rushers that went out that got paid out there in the market. And if they wind up with both Gary and Hendrickson, well, now you're talking about kind of reimagining who you are on the defensive front, especially if a guy like as a rock who can take another step. So free agency is not over yet. We're not even 24 hours in. So, you know, I think that, I think the Cowboys defense is going to look significantly different by the time we get to the beginning of May when the draft is over. And, and maybe we'll see another move or two as part of that in the next day or two.

[Dan Patrick]

Good to talk to you as always. Know you're busy. Thank you, Albert.

[Albert Breer]

Awesome. Thanks, Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

Appreciate it. That's Albert Brer, the Monday morning quarterback. Yeah, I misspoke on Rashawn Gary talking about him being a guy who's going to stop the run. It's obviously an edge rusher. So that's Emi e me. All right, your phone calls coming up. Update the poll results and we will dive into the topic here with the NBA, the Atlanta Hawks and Magic City Wings. And how did we get to this point? Oh boy. What was it two weeks ago when they announced that they were going to have this promotion in Atlanta? Yeah, Orlando, Magic, magic city wings, etc. Etc. And now the commissioner has put the kibosh on that. We'll talk about that coming up in a little bit. We're back after this.

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Michael in Fort Wayne. Hey, Mike, thanks for holding. What's on your mind today? Hey, Dan, thanks for taking my call. I went back after the show yesterday and watched the LA Marathon, where the Kenyan runner went the wrong way, ended up losing by less than a second. What I hadn't noticed was that the person who beat him was an American. And I felt bad for the Kenyan guy. But then I also had this conflicting national pride because for Kenyans, marathons are like their super bowl and we won it. And then I immediately thought back to the Olympics, where in the gold medal hockey event, the United States beat Canada in overtime. And all of it just made me wonder, what country's national pastime will we ruin next? That's a great, great question. I don't know. We'll have to give that some thought. That's as thought provoking is, would you rather have Owen Wilson's career or Luke Wilson's career? But thank you for the phone call there. Hesper in West Virginia. Hesper, yes. What can I do for you? Okay, so you were reading off the odds for DraftKings for the next super bowl, and I was yelling the entire time, like, where? How did Denver slip off the list? Like, we were an ankle away from going to the Super Bowl. I feel like I agree. I got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 teams. That's all DraftKings sent me. So I don't have the odds for your Denver Broncos, but I know that Ram, Seahawks, Ravens, Bills, Chiefs, Packers, Niners, Eagles, Chargers, Lions. Maybe I can get Dylan on this, see if we could find the rest of that list to let you know where your Broncos stand. But thank you. Thank you for the phone call. 877-3-DP show email address [e-mail] Twitter handle @DP Show. I mentioned this. The Atlanta Hawks, they were going to have a Magic City promotional night to pay tribute to the great wing place Magic City. That also is a gentleman's club as well. Or maybe it's the other way around. It's a gentleman's club that they also have wings. I don't know if Marvin had wings when he and Mario went there when we did Celebrity Family Feud. Did you have any wings? I did not. I was busy.

[Paulie]

Focused.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

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Okay. So I, I didn't think much that the Atlanta Hawks are going to honor Orlando Magic coming in and call it Magic City. And I go, okay, fine. I mean, there's another enough things to worry about. But then all of a sudden I saw seeing you Know, a couple of social media posts and, you know, are we going to have strippers? Are we objectifying women? And, you know, so it became a larger social issue or elite. It was presented that way. And the NBA didn't think anything of it when they, I guess, okayed this or green lit. I'm assuming the NBA has to be involved in these promotional nights. Maybe Atlanta Hawks and, you know, Magic City decided they were going to do it on their own. And, you know, it's one of those that, would you rather beg for forgiveness or, you know, ask for permission? So the NBA said, no, you can't do it because, you know the optics of this.

[Paulie]

Yes, Paulie, I've got the original press release from the Atlanta Hawks. They said this on February 26th. It was a promotion night to celebrate Magic City, Atlanta's premier strip club. The event was not to include dancers, which is kind of weird that they wouldn't invite them. And the Hawks did not mention Magic City being a gentleman's club in the press release. They called Magic City an iconic cultural institution. And about. It's about their history and impact, and it's an Atlanta landmark. That was the press release.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Could Hooters have a night somewhere, you know, in the NBA, like, wait, I don't know where. Emotional. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, I mean, they keep their clothes on. But I. It feels hypocritical that here's the NBA saying, you know what? We're going to draw the line when it comes to a gentleman's club that has wings. Meanwhile, what's the point spread on the Hawks Magic game? You know, are we worried about the kids? And, you know, Marvin's son is what, Lorenzo's 12? Yep. Okay. Now, he might go to the game and might say, dad, what's Magic City? And all you have to say is, hey, it. It's a club that serves wings. I don't think you have to go into, you know, dad went there and made it rain. I mean, there's no dancers there. Nobody's topless at the Hawks game. Although that might help attendance. Yes, Todd.

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[Dan Patrick]

You know, I don't know if you're going to take your parents word for it. What is this Magic City all about? And then I don't know what kind of pictures you're going to see, and all of a sudden you're going to realize why they pulled the plug on the. Okay. What's. What's worse, though, that you might have to explain that there's a gentleman's club or gambling's readily available right on your phone, son. Like to me, if you're going, what's, what's the, the worst of these two? I'd say, you know, probably gambling because that is available. I don't think a strip club in Atlanta Magic City with their wings are going to allow Marvin's 12 year old son to walk in. Yeah, see, I feel like you just blew by something though. Maybe deliberately. But I believe Todd said that they pulled the plug.

[Paulie]

He didn't deliver it like that.

[Dan Patrick]

They pulled. Not P U L L but P O L. Like a stripper's pole. Like a pole. That's. Well, maybe someone would use to dance. Well, see, the problem is Seaton is he sent me that yesterday and I ignored it yesterday just like I did today. It's the first time for the audience. So they don't know about any text that went by.

[Paulie]

Yes, I did find out from the NBA that day to day they don't approve team promotions. Like if the Sixers have something on a Tuesday, they don't have to run it by the NBA. So the NBA found out about this after the fact. And the NBA statement says we appreciate the team's perspective and their desire to move forward. But we've heard from leak stakeholders, fans, partners and employees and they said canceling the promotion is the right decision for, for the broader NBA community.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Yes, Marvin, most important question for me personally. Where's that Magic City merch going to go? They had, they had it all printed out. It's like the 86 Red Sox world Series. Where is that going? I don't know. I'd like to have a hoodie. I think they had Magic City hoodies there. That's a good conversation starter. Yeah, yeah. Yes. Time. What if they called it Magic City Wings promotion? That wouldn't be enough to get it past the goalie instead of Magic City. And getting cute that we didn't call it a, you know, a club or anything like that. Gentleman's club. Magic City Wings promotion. Pretending that it's all about the wings and there just happens to be girls that dance. Yeah, I know, Todd. Well, we can discuss this. We have a whole hour to discuss this, Todd. I guess, but Marvin has been there but didn't have the wings. I did not.

[Paulie]

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