Hour 2 – Man Cave Maneuvering, Tisha Thompson

Summary

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The Dan Patrick Show

Episode: Hour 2 – Man Cave Maneuvering, Tisha Thompson
Date: July 28, 2026
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

This hour of The Dan Patrick Show features Dan and the Danettes tackling a mix of workplace hijinks and the latest sports news, with a special focus on the new ESPN 30 for 30 podcast, "The Betrayal of Shohei Ohtani." Highlights include lighthearted banter about office cubicle politics, in-depth speculation about LeBron James’s move to Philadelphia, and a probing interview with ESPN investigative reporter Tisha Thompson about the Shohei Ohtani gambling scandal and her reporting process for the podcast. Listeners also chime in with thoughts on LeBron’s legacy and some comedic sports-name wordplay.

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Key Segments and Discussion Points

1. Man Cave Cubicle Drama & ESPN Office Stories

[02:27–11:19]

• Dan opens with behind-the-scenes issues at The Dan Patrick Show studio: the "back room” team has recently been subjected to a cubicle reshuffle as new employees arrive, causing drama and lighthearted resentment.
  • Notable Quote
    • Dan Patrick ([03:43]): “We have problems just like you have problems here — some of the back room guys not pleased with their position in the room with their cubicles.”
• The team jokes about “promotion and relegation” and how office politics mirror those of a sports team or airline seating.
  • Dylan ([05:49]): “Ray went from...Nantucket waterfront...to slot B in cubicle 2.0. So I understand that he might be a little salty.”
• They reminisce about similar workplace dynamics at ESPN—Dan recounts his early years without an office, management’s resistance to giving on-air "talent" more than cubicles, and the Kafkaesque process of getting simple amenities.
  • Dan Patrick ([07:05]): "They called us talent. I hated that."
  • Dan Patrick ([10:39]): "Oberman and I would write SportsCenter... Here's a show making $200 million a year. We can't give you an office?"

Memorable Moment

• Dan tells the story of stealing a TV monitor from Jason Jackson, highlighting the absurdity of the workplace pecking order.
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2. Quick Hits: Bill Belichick at UNC, College Football, LeBron to Philly

[11:19–18:20]

• Short discussion on Belichick’s rocky transition to college football at UNC, staff turmoil, and prediction of a tough season.
  • Dan sets a Vegas-style over/under win total for UNC and laughs about “quality losses” being a college football thing.
  • Paulie ([13:58]): "Last year they did improve, but they had like quality losses...so it wasn't an embarrassment, it was just non threatening."
• Listener Andrew calls in about LeBron James, opining that Los Angeles will give LeBron a “cold reception” and that the union with the Lakers was always transactional, not beloved (unlike Kobe/Magic).
  • Andrew (Caller) ([14:27]): “It was rarely...looked as one. You know, like Kobe is one with the Lakers, Magic is one...But they grew up with them.”
• Dan debates whether LeBron’s move to Philadelphia is best for his legacy and championship chances, expressing skepticism about his two-year commitment.
  • Dan Patrick ([15:39]): "All you want to do is get into the NBA Finals and take your chances with seven games...I like his chances...But LeBron’s got a lot of pressure."

Notable Quote

• Dan Patrick ([15:39]): "All you want to do is get into the NBA Finals...You want to play in meaningful games."

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3. The Betrayal of Shohei Ohtani: Interview with Tisha Thompson

[25:31–40:30]

Background

Dan welcomes Tisha Thompson, ESPN investigative reporter and host of the new 30 for 30 podcast series on the Shohei Ohtani gambling scandal. This segment delivers a deep dive into the investigation, the reporting process, and the unanswered questions around Ohtani’s interpreter’s massive theft.

Main Topics Covered

• Questions That Remain

  • Tisha wanted to know: What were Shohei Ohtani and interpreter Ippei Mizuhara saying to each other when ESPN discovered the wire transfers from Ohtani’s account to an illegal bookmaker? What did Ohtani actually know, and when?
    • Tisha Thompson ([25:59]): "I would have really liked to have been in the room when Shohei and Ippei talked about it. I would like to know exactly when they talked about it, because there has been a lot of confusion about who knew what, when..."

• Federal Investigation & Text Messages

  • Tisha gained nearly unprecedented access:
    • Interviews with federal investigators (IRS, Homeland Security) who reviewed 40,000 Japanese-language text messages between Ohtani and Mizuhara, plus bank records and other evidence.
    • Investigators concluded Ohtani was a victim; Mizuhara confessed and cooperated.
      • Tisha Thompson ([30:52]): “The federal investigators would tell you that they believe Shohei Ohtani, based on the evidence, is an innocent victim. ...There’s other evidence that the Feds uncovered that showed that Ippei was using Shohei’s money for things beyond gambling.”

• Who Is Ippei Mizuhara?

  • The podcast explores Mizuhara’s deep access to Ohtani, his control over Ohtani’s information, and his "lifelong love affair with baseball cards," which turns out to be relevant to the case.
    • Tisha Thompson ([31:27]): "There’s a very interesting storyline about Ippei’s...long, lifelong love affair with baseball cards. Baseball cards become very important in this story."

• Reporting Process & The Revelatory Interview

  • Tisha spent five months sourcing documents and verifying details before ever approaching Ohtani’s camp.
  • Her 90-minute interview with Mizuhara was surprisingly candid; she suspected he was lying at various points. Within 16 hours, Mizuhara confessed to her that he had lied in the interview—both to Thompson and to Shohei.
    • Tisha Thompson ([38:27]): "It is the first time in a two decade career where less than 16 hours later I was on the phone with him again. And he told me that almost everything he had told me the night before was a lie. I said, Ippei, did you lie to me? And he says yes. And I said, did you lie to Shohei? And he says yes."
  • Tisha emphasizes the behind-the-scenes painstaking process of investigative reporting and the challenge of sorting rumors from corroborated facts.

• Podcast Episode Structure

  • The first two podcast episodes, "The Letter O" and "The Interview," are now available; future episodes drop Tuesdays and Thursdays in August.

Memorable Moments & Quotes

• Tisha Thompson ([34:04]): "I’m not in the business of spreading rumors. I’m in the business of gathering source information...We looked at all of that before we ever went to Shohei Ohtani’s folks and said, ‘Hey, we want to understand what’s going on here.’"
• Dan Patrick ([39:45], joking after her story): "Everything I’ve said to you today has been a lie as well, Tisha."
• Tisha Thompson ([39:49]): "Oh, Dan, don’t tell me that. Don’t tell me that."
• Dan closes the segment praising the grueling and often invisible grind behind such investigations and Tisha’s tenacity.

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4. Legacy Debates: LeBron, Michael Jordan, and the Power of Nostalgia

[46:19–51:15]

• Listener asks why LeBron doesn’t get his due respect; Dan and the Danettes discuss nostalgia’s power, Michael Jordan’s omnipresent legacy (boosted by The Last Dance and the Jumpman brand), and compare star power in the NBA and PGA.
  • Marvin ([48:44]): "Michael Jordan’s gonna be compared more to like Babe Ruth...in a hundred years, everyone’s still going to look at Michael Jordan as the greatest player ever, the way we do Babe Ruth..."
• There's discussion of fan receptions for departing stars (e.g., Giannis in Milwaukee, LeBron in LA, Jaylen Brown in Boston) and the media narratives that shape their legacies.
  • Dan Patrick: "I think Michael's legacy is just too big. It's omnipresent." ([49:03])

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Notable Quotes – Quick Reference

• Dan Patrick ([03:43]): “We have problems just like you have problems here — some of the back room guys not pleased with their position in the room with their cubicles.”
• Dylan ([05:49]): “Ray went from... Nantucket waterfront... to slot B in cubicle 2.0. So I understand that he might be a little salty.”
• Tisha Thompson ([25:59]): "I would have really liked to have been in the room when Shohei and Ippei talked about it. I would like to know exactly when they talked about it..."
• Tisha Thompson ([30:52]): “The federal investigators would tell you that they believe Shohei Ohtani, based on the evidence, is an innocent victim.”
• Tisha Thompson ([31:27]): "There’s a very interesting storyline about Ippei’s... lifelong love affair with baseball cards. Baseball cards become very important in this story."
• Tisha Thompson ([38:27]): "It is the first time in a two decade career where less than 16 hours later I was on the phone with him again. And he told me that almost everything he had told me the night before was a lie."
• Dan Patrick ([39:45]): "Everything I’ve said to you today has been a lie as well, Tisha."
• Marvin ([48:44]): "Michael Jordan’s gonna be compared more to like Babe Ruth...in a hundred years, everyone’s still going to look at Michael Jordan as the greatest player ever, the way we do Babe Ruth..."

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:27–11:19: Man cave/cubicle banter, ESPN office anecdotes
• 11:19–18:20: College football, Belichick at UNC, LeBron in Philly
• 25:31–40:30: Interview with Tisha Thompson on Shohei Ohtani scandal and reporting process
• 46:19–51:15: LeBron vs. Jordan, legacy and nostalgia debate

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Summary

This episode artfully blends locker room camaraderie and sports office politics with weighty journalism and big-picture analysis. Listeners get laughs from Dan’s storytelling and newsroom banter, an insider’s account of media and sports culture, and a true crime-level deep dive into one of baseball’s biggest scandals from a decorated investigative reporter. The conversation with Tisha Thompson is the clear highlight, offering rare transparency into a complex story, her journalistic process, and the still-murky details behind a case that riveted both the sports world and the public.

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For more details, check out the "30 for 30: The Betrayal of Shohei Ohtani" podcast—episodes one and two, "The Letter O" and "The Interview," are available now wherever you listen.

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[Dan Patrick]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. It's hour two on this Tuesday. Charles Barkley in an from now ESPN investigative reporter Tisha Thompson, the podcast, a six part six episode podcast on Shohei Otani and his former interpreter and the gambling scandal. She'll join us in about 20 minutes from now. 8773-DP-SHoSH Email Address DP danpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP-SHoSH say good morning if you're watching the program on Peacock or you're listening on our radio affiliates numbering over 400 across America. STAT of the Day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show, NBA WNBA on NBC and Peacock August 2, Sparks vs. The Fire, the WNBA Live on NBC and Peacock Poll question from hour one. What are the results? What are we going to go with in hour two of the program? Dylan, by the way, my starting lineup. Fritz, he's in the back with Dylan, Marvin and Paulie up front, yours truly and the back room guys. A little bit of controversy. I walk in today and apparently in the bullpen where the back room guys sit and we got cubicles, big German working all day yesterday we got new employees and we wanted to have more space there. Took down a wall and everybody got kind of maneuvered to different cubicles there. And some, some not happy, including big day. Ray, who is the producer of the gambling podcast does a lot of different things and he was not pleased with where his cubicle was. So I walk in at 7:30 in the morning and I'm putting out fires and all of a sudden waiting for the big German to come in. I said maybe we have a draft. Maybe there's a lottery where you get to pick your cubicle. But there's some people who are feeling pretty low and a couple of people like Rob the Knicks fan. This might be as happy as he's it might even be happier than when the Knicks won the title because he got raised cubicle and it might be the best one in in the bullpen there. So little sensitivity there. We have problems just like you have problems here at some of the back room guys not pleased with their position in the room with their cubicles. Yes.

[Paulie]

Paulie, were they assigned cubicles? Did they have any?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Paulie]

No input.

[Dan Patrick]

There were pieces of tape on the cubicle that the big German did before he left yesterday, everybody kind of came in and went, wait a minute. My cubicle is over here. And there were a couple people, frosty, most notably. Big day, Ray. And I said, ray, I think you found out kind of where you stand in the building. You know where you are with your cubicle. You got a middle cubicle.

[Paulie]

Oh, no.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, he did even get a corner one.

[Paulie]

It's like the middle seat of a back seat of a car.

[Dan Patrick]

He got middle in coach on a flight cross country. Yes.

[Paulie]

It feels a little bit like promotion and relegation going on back.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow.

[Paulie]

Like, almost like power rankings.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I. And. And once again, I said to the big Germany when he came in, I said, you better, you know, address this. He goes, I don't need to. I go, all right. Spoken like a true boss. Yeah, Dylan. Yeah.

[Dylan]

I mean, Ray went from, like, probably the most prime real estate, like, this is, like, Nantucket waterfront, like, they're not making any more of it, to slot B in cubicle 2.0. So I understand that he might be a little salty.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, he is. And I told him, suck it up. Let's go. We got a show to do. Every day is the Super Bowl. Yeah.

[Paulie]

Paul, is it fair to say the worst desk back there is right next to the bathroom, just like on an airplane?

[Dan Patrick]

No. Even though Ray said that. That Rob is right across from the bathroom, and he said, good luck when Fritzi goes in there.

[Todd Fritz]

Rob, I've been banned from that bathroom. I haven't used that in a long time. Wait, don't even let me do, like, number one in there. They start making faces.

[Dan Patrick]

Wait, so the bullpen guy, the backroom guy, said, you can't go to the bathroom.

[Todd Fritz]

And so someone said something to the big German, where he gave me a little chat a long time ago, saying, if you could, because it's so on top of where people are walking, can you just use the corner by the football field over there?

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Yes. Dylan.

[Dylan]

Yeah, There was always a, I guess an unwritten rule for that bathroom where you do only one kind of business there.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

Todd had flouted that rule on numerous occasions to the point where I think he received a lifetime ban.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah, there were a couple times where the other ones were being used, even though there's, like, two bathrooms back then, and just. I can't believe that there's three that need to be used all at once. And I'm like, you know what? When you can't hold it, you can't hold it.

[Dan Patrick]

How can I retire from this. I mean, come on. This is life. And once again, we have issues. Just like you may have issues in your office. The cubicle. I had a cubicle for the first 10 years of my 18 year career at ESPN. And I remember management, they came to me one day and they go, come on in. Now, whenever that happened, I was always nervous. Hey, come on in. Got something to tell you. I'm like, oh, God, what did I do now? Foreign we're going to give Chris Berman and Bob Lee offices. So I go, why don't you name buildings after them? Like they. They built this place. Yeah, but we just wanted you to know that we were giving them offices. I said, it's embarrassing. They haven't had an office before this. Because if you were a coordinating producer at the mothership, when you walked in, first day, you have an office. So I remember going to management and I said, hey, this isn't about me getting an office. But it's a bigger picture here. Why doesn't talent. They called us talent. I hated that. Why don't we get offices? It's a fire code issue. And so I go, okay, don't make me follow up with the Bristol fire chief here, because I'll do that. I'm an investigative reporter. Don't make me do that. And they said. I said, but you just had somebody come in and they got an office, but they're a coordinating producer. I said, are they not susceptible to fire? Like, I don't understand this. And then they eventually got around to giving us offices. And I wanted to get a closet for my suits that I could hang them. And they said, it's precedent setting. And I go, okay, can I just get a rack that I can hang my suits on? Everything was precedent setting. Yes.

[Todd Fritz]

Todd, wasn't it just tough to get even a look little TV? I thought there were stories about stealing each other's TVs on the Internet.

[Dan Patrick]

I did do that. I did that to Jason Jackson, Miami Heat announcer and I admitted that I stole it. I mean, I'd been there a long time. I had seniority. I wanted to have another monitor so I could watch more games since I did more highlights where I hadn't even seen the highlights before. I went on SportsCenter. And you know what? Jay Jacks probably would have given it to me. The thing is, is I just took it one day and he came in and I hear him. He is mf and he is like, somebody took my monitor. And I walk out and I go, what happened? He goes, can you Believe somebody took my monitor. I go, unbelievable. And I, you know, after a while, I finally told him that I took his monitor. Precedent setting, getting an office. Oberman and I would write SportsCenter, and we would have cubicles. So he'd be right over on the other side of the cubicle. Here we are part of a show that's making $200 million a year. We can't give you an office. But when they said they were giving Chris, I said, you should be naming buildings after Bob Lee, Chris Berman, and Tom Meese. You should name buildings after them. Put a statue for all I care, but give them offices. And they had been there a lot longer than I had.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paul, I remember when Fritzi and I started working with you. We went up to your office and we expected this, you know, Emmys and all this stuff. There was a pile of ties 3ft high. There was old jerseys and cool stuff. But the things you would see, Fritz and I, were worked right next to Mike Golick, the older Mike Golic. He would sleep on the carpet and use the garbage can as a headrest to get a nap between shows.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I had a sleeping bag that I slept in my office, and that was usually from 4 to 5 o' clock after the radio show. Before I started writing SportsCenter. It's like. I mean, I didn't want to ask for anything like a cot, you know, so I had a sleeping bag. All the good old days. Yes.

[Todd Fritz]

Todd, you look like a Duke student waiting to try to get tickets to the big North Carolina laying there on the floor.

[Dan Patrick]

No, I was. I would have been great in Kzyzewski Ville. I would have been out there with the students. Camps are open for business today. Everybody is open for business today. Story yesterday with Mike Lombardi. He is kind of the GM at North Carolina football. At least he's not now. He's been put on leave. But Belichick took over North Carolina, and I think everybody thought, okay, there. There will be stability because Belich has stability all those years, you know, he has this ability to tune out distractions. Last season, I think they scored on their first drive. He had Michael Jordan there. He had Mia Ham there. Like, everybody was there. North Carolina football. And then I think they only. They didn't score another touchdown the rest of the game. And it went downhill from there. But the roster completely reshaped. There's 60 or so transfer portal editions. Bobby Petrino. You remember Bobby, Former coach, college and the NFL. He's now taking over the offense. Belichick's Right hand man, Mike Lombardi, placed on administrative leave. So when you look at Belichick, the resume, you know, unapproachable. But here we are managing teenagers, like you have to engage now. When he was with the Patriots, he didn't have to engage with anybody. He didn't have to talk to parents. You have talked to anybody, he'd be like, gronk, what are you doing? Tom, why'd you throw the interception? Now he's got to deal with kids. So he's managing teenagers, navigating nil, rebuilding a roster every off season. You know, that jump from the NFL to college, not apples to apples. Pretty tough. I've got the over, under, North Carolina wins this year. Todd, I'll start with you. North Carolina, over, under wins this year.

[Todd Fritz]

I'm gonna say five and a half.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, Dylan, I got a copy. Todd, Marvin.

[Marvin]

Six and a half.

[Caller/Listener]

Paul.

[Paulie]

I'm also going five and a half.

[Dan Patrick]

Four and a half. That won't get it done. I thought he would have two years there. I mean, I don't, you know, if he comes back to the NFL or he coaches, it doesn't matter to me. My job is just to assess what I think is going to happen. But you go four and a half wins. Yikes. Yeah, Paulie.

[Paulie]

Yeah, last year they did improve, but they had like quality losses. They lost by seven to Duke or, you know, like Stanford, they beat by five. They beat Syracuse. I think they went overtime with Virginia when Virginia was ranked. So it wasn't an embarrassment, it was just non threatening.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know if I can say, but how about our quality losses?

[Paulie]

College football's all about quality losses.

[Dan Patrick]

Andrew in Washington leads us off, hour two. Hi, Andrew. What do you have for me?

[Caller/Listener]

Good morning, Dan Dennett. Thanks for taking my call. Hey, real quick. I just want to lay in on the Chris and Syracuse poll question. I do think it'll be LA with the coldest reception for LeBron. That was just two brands coming together to help each other. It was rarely, never looked as one. You know, like Kobe is one with the Lakers, Magic is one with the Lakers. But they grew up with them and everybody kind of knows that. So I think only Bronny James will be clapping for his dad on the bench. But prayers go out to Kyle Shanahan and Eric B enem. I do think that this shows that Kyle Shanahan is a source for a lot of these insiders. And so they were respectful and kept his news off the accident report. I guess from some I read doesn't Even name the names, so. Because there's no citations given, but that's what I think about that. I don't know if Philadelphia was the best choice for LeBron, just because I don't know if it gives him the best choice to win. I don't know how they stack up with the teams in the West. They might get through the east, but like the Thunder and Wimby in, in San Antonio, I don't know how they stack up against them with us aging and maybe, you know, 25 minute a game. Joel Embiid, how do you think about that?

[Dan Patrick]

Well, he could have gone to Golden State. He not get into the, you know, NBA Finals. He got a better chance. All you want to do is get into the NBA Finals and take your chances with seven games. If you visit Golden State, you're not beating Oklahoma City and you're not beating San Antonio. I like, I like his chances. Look, he took a big chance going to Philly and he's taking big swings here, and that's a really good it. The talent is there. It takes. It's not going to happen right away. And LeBron's going to be your point guard, point forward, and he'll probably average 10 assists a game. He'll be directing traffic, kind of what he did with the Lakers. You know, he should be ready to go. But LeBron's got a lot of pressure. You know who's got a lot of pressure, too, is Luca. It's your team now moving forward in that town. I mean, LeBron is maybe got two years. Here's another thing I don't understand with LeBron. He wasn't sure he was going to play, wasn't sure where he was going to play. But then you're so sure that you're going to play two years. I would have thought, hey, I'm, I'm playing one now. I know it's one plus one. But it, it feels like this is two years for LeBron and it might take a year to get to that title contending team. But I like what he did. Chasing rings, whatever. I, I can't imagine somebody go, unless you're going for money. Where you go, I'm going to take that money. But you know what? We're not going to win. Instead, you want to better yourself. Did Giannis want to better his situation to win? Yes, he did. That's what you want. I got a chance to be in meaningful games, playoff games, playing for a title. Josh Hart was a wonderful player. I mean, in Portland, what he averaged 20 a game. He went playing in meaningful games. Now he's famous because he won. Nobody can. You don't know how many points he averaged because it doesn't matter. You want to play meaningful games. So whether it's Josh Hart or LeBron James or Giannis, you want to play in meaningful games. And we've told LeBron all along, hey, you got to win titles. I mean, Bradley Beal could average 30 in Washington. Nobody cared. You got summers off every year. Hey, but Bradley Beal averaging 30 and I go, no one cares. Yeah, I'm pulling.

[Paulie]

Four years ago, Josh Hart was in Portland averaging 19, nine. Yeah, I don't remember anything about it.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Now you, I mean, Josh Hart on scholarship for the rest of his life in New York.

[Marvin]

Yes, Mark, he's got national commercials. Yeah, I said it's like when I was a kid, John Starks was way more famous than Mitch Richmond and Mitch Richmond was a 25 a night score for Sacramento. But no one cared because John Starks was a good player on the Knicks.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. All right, let me take a break. We'll talk about the Shohei Otani the podcast documentary. Not sure how it's framed by the mothership, but we'll talk about that six part series. We'll do that next year. Dan Patrick Show Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, we're Covino and Rich, Fox Sports radio every day, 5 to 7pm Eastern. But here's the thing. We never have enough time to get to everything we want to get to.

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There you go. Over promising. And remember, you could see it on YouTube, but definitely join us. Listen to over promised with Covino and rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Ari Chambers]

What's up, fam? I'm sports journalist Ari Chambers.

[Sam J.]

Hey, what's up, y'?

[Paulie]

All?

[Sam J.]

It's your girl, Sam Jae.

[Ari Chambers]

And we're the host of Everyone Watches Women's Sports, a new podcast from Together and I heart women's sports because, let's

[Sam J.]

be real, women's sports is giving us way too much to talk about these days.

[Ari Chambers]

So Kelsey Findler, she became the first female solo rower to go from California to Hawaii.

[Sam J.]

My first thought is like, what's up with the snacks? Like, what are we eating?

[Ari Chambers]

The highlights, the rivalries, the breakout stars, the moments that take over your entire

[Sam J.]

timeline and the conversations that start during the game and somehow keep going all week. Every week, we're breaking down the biggest stories across women's sports.

[Ari Chambers]

Naomi Osaka showing out. She beat Sabalenka.

[Sam J.]

Shout outs to you, Naomi, you get the palm.

[Ari Chambers]

Naomi, you get the palm for that.

[Sam J.]

Because we're not just interested in what happened. We're interested in why everyone's talking about it. Because everyone watches women's sports. Listen to everyone watches women's Sports on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Fred Armisen]

Hey, Portlandia fans.

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Kerry Brownstein and Fred Armisen here, you

[Fred Armisen]

know us, or rather, you know them. Tony and Candace, Nina and Lance, Spike and yes, the chicken.

[T-Mobile Representative]

We've played a lot of iconic characters over the years, but today we're showing up as ourselves to tell you about Podlandia. AO rewatch our brand new podcast.

[Fred Armisen]

Each week we'll revisit an episode of Portlandia from the very beginning. Breaking down the sketches, exploring the backstories of our most iconic characters, revisiting the Portland locations you know and love, and opening up about our creative process.

[T-Mobile Representative]

How did any of this get made? Why do we think that was a good idea. We're ready to talk about it.

[Fred Armisen]

And we'll also be joined by the people who helped bring it all to life, guest stars, collaborators, and friends, including director Jonathan Krisel, the mayor himself, Kyle McLaughlin, legendary musician Amy Mann, and many more.

[T-Mobile Representative]

Kyle is going for it. Here you fully improvised, not just words, but a song about it.

[Dan Patrick]

I thought he was gonna write. I thought you were all gonna write a song.

[T-Mobile Representative]

I remember you thinking that.

[Fred Armisen]

Listen to Podlandia Ayo rewatch on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Chelsea Handler]

This is Chelsea Handler from Dear Chelsea. Every week the news gets worse, the world gets crazier, and Yamanika is here to tell whoever's respons responsible, you're the problem.

[Yamaneika Saunders]

If you come over here to play games, I' ma check you. Okay? If you do some in the news that don't sound good, I' ma play you.

[Chelsea Handler]

Join Yamanika Saunders as she breaks down the week's most problematic stories on her new podcast. You're the Problem with Yamaneika.

[Yamaneika Saunders]

Do you know I just found out who Sydney Sweeney was.

[Chelsea Handler]

New episodes weekly every Wednesday as part of my new network, the Dear Chelsea Network.

[Yamaneika Saunders]

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[Chelsea Handler]

So join Yamaneika each episode as she answers one question. Who's the problem?

[Yamaneika Saunders]

I'm Yamanika and I'm out. Listen to youo're the Problem with yamaneika on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Dan Patrick]

The six part 30 for 30 podcast, the betrayal of Shohei Otani. We'll talk to the investigative reporter Tisha Thompson, who is hosting that. She'll join us momentarily. Michael in Fort Wayne. Hi, Mike. What do you have for me?

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, Dan, thanks for taking my call. I appreciate that you allow your listeners to call in and share some of the small parts of our lives with you. My wife and I are expecting our first child this October, and as you can imagine, it's got me thinking a lot about sports names. So if you don't mind, I'd really love to share. I don't think, you know, you needed it, but I've got some sports names that are related to childbirth that I'd like to share with you.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, that sounds great.

[Caller/Listener]

Okay, Now I've just got six for you. So we'll start with the Low Hanging fruit. Number one, George Herman. Babe Ruth.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Caller/Listener]

Hall of Fame, Punter Ray Guy, necologist.

[Dylan]

Whoa.

[Caller/Listener]

Okay. Thirdly, NBA player Robert contraction trailer. The late Robert tractor trailer, Kareem Abdullah Jabbar. Okay, this one's for Todd Bronco. Safety from the late 80s, Tyrone Braxton Hicks.

[Todd Fritz]

There you go.

[Caller/Listener]

And then finally, Steelers kick returner cut the cord, Daryl Patterson.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. Cordell Patterson. Yes. Paulie.

[Paulie]

I think Fritzi would have got crushed for that.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. But he's getting ready to have a child, so I'm a little more lenient there. Let's resume our regularly scheduled program. Tisha Thompson, ESPN investigative reporter, senior writer, and the podcast, a 30 for 30 podcast, the Betrayal of Shohei Otani. Great to have you on the show. What was the one question maybe that you wanted answered that baseball's investigation didn't answer

[Tisha Thompson]

what the two men were saying to each other when we first said, hey, we've seen the wires. And can you explain why Shohei Ohtani's bank account is sending half million dollar wires to an illegal bookmaking operation? I would have really liked to have been in the room when Shohei and Ippei talked about it. I would like to know exactly when they talked about it, because there has been a lot of confusion about who knew what, when, and it varies depending on who you talk to. The version of events that I've been told was that Shohei didn't know about the questions I wanted answers to about these wire transfers until after I did an interview with Ippei, after he had played his first game of the regular season with the Dodgers. After there was a locker room meeting with the whole Dodgers team and organization where Ippei got up and said, hey, there's a story coming out. And I,

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, I think you froze up there, Todd. You want to see if maybe we can get Tisha on maybe a phone? Yeah. Paulie.

[Paulie]

Yeah, it's really interesting. I was going back and looking at this, and the entire Ohtani interpreter debacle happened as they were getting ready to go to Korea. Like, people were in flights in the air. And it was very interesting how it was being dealt with by MLB and the Dodgers.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. And that's what I want to talk to Tisha about, because I don't. I mean, baseball and, you know, I. I said the NBA. The NBA has spent 10 months on Kawhi Leonard investigation. It felt like baseball wrapped up the Shohei Ohtani investigation rather quickly by comparison. And it felt like, you know, a lot of times you'll get an alert if something happens with a bank account. That's what I'm surprised that $5 million and you don't get an alert. That would surprise me. Tisha, thank you. Jumping on the phone here. So as you were saying, you had some questions that initially weren't answered. I was wondering, baseball wrapped up their investigation. I thought quickly, did you have any problem with the time frame for that?

[Tisha Thompson (continued)]

I, you know, I can't be critical of their timing because I think there was so much confusion in the beginning who is telling the truth about what. And I think everyone, myself included, wanted to see what the federal government would uncover because the federal government has subpoena power and the federal government can compel people to come in and do interviews with them. And I think we all wanted to know. All right, Ippei told Tisha me this version of events, Shohei's people are saying, wait a second, it's this version of events and that he had nothing to do with it. So what would the Feds find? And that's Dan, that's something that I'm excited that we're going to be able to share with people in the podcast the Betrayal of Shohei Ohtani, because we really, for the first time get to hear from the actual federal investigators who were reading the text messages between shohei and Ippei. 40,000 text messages between these two men. We interviewed the IRS lead investigator who has never done any interview in a two decade career before. But he agreed to do this interview for this podcast because he wanted people to know what they found and why they came to the conclusions that they came to. I mean, the investigation. 40,000 text messages, all in Japanese. So not only did they have to read all these text messages, they had to translate them. They had agents with the Department of Homeland Security and agents with IRS reading through all of these messages. They also went through all of the bank records. You'll learn that, you know, the Fed seized not just evidence from Epay, but they also had seized evidence previously from the bookie. And so they were able to combine the phones and the different things that they found, bank records, particularly from the bookie, and compared bank accounts. And we really get into the details of that investigation so people can hear what, what they found and why they came to the conclusions that they came to.

[Dan Patrick]

Episodes one and two, the letter O and the interview, debut today, followed by episodes every Tuesday and Thursday throughout August, or at least the first couple of weeks of August. Is there still doubt about Ohtani side of this?

[Tisha Thompson (continued)]

The federal investigators would tell you that they believe that Shohei Ohtani, based on the evidence, is an innocent victim. And that Ippei Mizuhara pleaded guilty. He turned over his phone, he cooperated with several investigators. He pleaded guilty. And in the podcast, we're going to show you that it's more than just what he said and it's more than just the bank account. There's other evidence that the Feds uncovered that led them to believe that this was more complicated than a man who had a terrible gambling addiction, which is how Ippei's attorneys presented it in court. I obviously was in court following all of this as it went along. Ippei was presented as a man with a terrible, terrible sports betting addiction, got $40 million into debt with the illegal bookmaker. But there's other evidence that the Feds uncovered that showed that Ippei was using Shohei's money for things beyond the gambling. There's a very interesting storyline about Ippei's. I don't know if obsession is the right word, but long, lifelong love affair with baseball cards. Baseball cards become very important in this story. In episode three, we really explore something that I've always wanted to try to learn more about, which is, who is Ippei? Dan, who is Ippei? This is a man that stood next to reporters that fans thought they knew for years, and he essentially was the gatekeeper to Shohei. You could not get information about Shohei without Ippei, whether you spoke English or Japanese, the Japanese media, which of course covers Shohei. So, you know, they're there every day. They're looking for news about Shohei every day because he's such a big news item in Japan, they needed to go through Ipei. And when you start to talk to folks, they didn't know he was married. They didn't know anything about him. And we were able in the podcast to this 30 for 30 podcast to explore this idea of who is Ippei? Who is this man that had so much access to Shohei and ultimately was controlling? Who could get to Ipei, including. I'm sorry, who could get to Shohei, including Shohei's own people. We really look at how much communication Shohei's team. And when I say team, I'm talking about his agent, his financial advisors, his bookkeeper, his accountant, all of those people. How much. How much communication did they really have with Shohei and what kind of role did I pay when it came to show his money? And it was very unusual, very different from what you and I have experienced

[Dan Patrick]

with other athletes who exposed this whole story.

[Caller/Listener]

And Ippei, do you mean who is

[Dan Patrick]

my tip no, no, like.

[Tisha Thompson (continued)]

Well, because I'm not telling you that.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, so the authority. Okay, but did he almost get away with this?

[Tisha Thompson (continued)]

I would like to say no. I mean, I'm the reporter, right? I'm the one who spent five months trying to get to the bottom of this before I ever approached Shohei Ohtani's people. You know, the folks at the ESPN investigative unit work really hard. I say to people, I'm not in the business of spreading rumors. I'm in the business of gathering source information. So, you know, we gathered up documents, Documents, you know, sources. This was a federal investigation. It was a sealed federal investigation into the legal bookmaker. So even that information was secret at that point. You know, that was not common knowledge. So we had to crack that, and we had to get documentation to prove that Matt Blair was an illegal bookmaker. And then we had to get documentation that showed that Shohei, at least his bank account, had some kind of relationship with this illegal bookmaking operation. So we were able to. I was able to. And we talk about it in episode one, see some of the wires, you know, so we really gathered up evidence, hard evidence, but we also gathered up a lot of source information. And part of the reason it took a minute to get to the original article was because we knew there was Shohei Ohtani's bank account involved, and we were able to prove that. But then I got some source information that said epay might be involved. Okay, well, what is that? What does that mean? Dan Ippei might be involved? Does that mean. And we do this incredible interview with the illegal bookmaker in episode four of the podcast. And if you bet on sports or you know, someone that bets on sports, I really recommend you listen to this podcast and you listen to episode four, and you listen to the illegal bookmaker talk about how he hooks clients, how he keeps them in his book, how he. There's this delicate balance between making as much money as you can off of your client but not letting them go bankrupt because he wants you to keep spending money with his book. I mean, it's a fascinating inside look into the bookmaking business and how an illegal bookmaker thinks and how they do what they do. So, you know, we. We looked at all of that before we ever went to Shohei Ohtani's folks and said, hey, we want to understand what's going on here. And I said, right from the get go, I want to interview Shohei Ohtani. And I mean, you can imagine, I would like to interview Shohei Otani, right? And I, by the Way I keep asking, I mean, every time I get on the phone with his people, I say, I would like to interview Shohei Ohtani. When are we going to make that happen? And in the beginning it was maybe, we'll see, but we'll give you someone else. And that's how I end up interviewing Ippei Mi Zahara and that interview. Dan. I, you know, I didn't know how long that interview would go. He had a reputation. You know, my colleagues at ESPN who cover the Dodgers and the Angels every day warned me, you know, this is not a man who says much. This is a man who barely talks about his personal life. And when he says anything, it's very short sentences. So I went in thick thinking, well, maybe I'll get a statement. Maybe he'll, you know, give me a couple sentences. And that's how it starts in episode two. You know, I, I'm excited. There's not a lot of opportunities for reporters to let folks listen to an in depth interview like that. I mean, it was a 90 minute interview and we're not going to make you sit through 90 minutes of it. But the reason why it was so long is we really get into nitty gritty details. And Ippei just kept talking and he kept giving me information. And the interview I think is fascinating. There are, you know, as an investigative reporter who's been doing this for two decades, I've done interviews with people that I know are lying to me. You know, I don't do these interviews until I'm really well sourced. More often than not, in this case, I was very well sourced. And Ippei starts to tell me his story. And there are moments in that interview in real time where I'm pretty skeptical. I'm like, I'm not sure he's telling me the truth here, but as a reporter you listen and you ask the tough questions. And that's what I tried to do. And the answers we got were fascinating. But I will say it is the first time in a two decade career where less than 16 hours later, I was on the phone with him again. And he told me that almost everything he had told me the night before was a lie. I said, ippe, did you lie to me? And he says yes. And I said, did you lie to Shohei? And he says yes. So we really take you through that whole bizarre 24 hour period both before and after that interview. I've. Dan, I've never, I've never encountered anything like it in my career. And you know, I'm glad Folks can now listen and hear what I was hearing and know what I knew, when I knew it, and understand the context and why we were asking the questions. We were asking what we knew, what we later found out, and why the feds immediately began to investigate Ippei because he was not a target, so to speak, of the investigation before we did that interview is my understanding from sources,

[Dan Patrick]

everything I've said to you today has been a lie as well. Tisha.

[Tisha Thompson (continued)]

Oh, Dan, don't tell me that. Don't tell me that.

[Dan Patrick]

Congratulations.

[Tisha Thompson (continued)]

Thank you.

[Dan Patrick]

I know these things are exhaustive, but that's why, you know, you're an investigative reporter, that you do a deep dive on that and sometimes you're getting nuggets. There you go. Wait a minute. Where'd this come from? And then you follow it. Six part 30 for 30 podcasts, the betrayal of Shohei Otani. So you have. The first two episodes are available today, the letter O and the Interview. Those are the titles of those two episodes. Good luck with this, Tisha, and thank you very much.

[Tisha Thompson (continued)]

Thank you. Thank you, Dan, for having me and love your show. So thanks for doing this.

[Dan Patrick]

That's Tisha Thompson. Looked at her resume. She is decorated. Been doing this a long time. But you know what? There are certain investigative reporters, Andrea Kramer, Jeremy Shap, Bob Lee, like, certain guys, certain people that I work with. And it is painstakingly, It's. I don't even know how to describe it other than when we were investigating Pete Rose for gambling. And it's like you're asking questions, you're interviewing people. You don't even know where the interview will go if they're going to tell you something, on the record, off the record, all of those things. But when you do this and you're spending months just leading up to maybe getting a story here, breaking a story here. I mean, I still have questions. I still have questions. That baseball wrapped it up too soon for me. Otani and. Nope. Like, it'd be nice to be rich enough that you don't know somebody is siphoning off that kind of money from you. Language barrier played a role in this as well. Yeah. Wow. Just wild. But yeah, the work that you do, putting in, we get to see the end result. You don't get to, you know, she's telling you about those months and months leading up to it. All right, take a break. The two episodes available, wherever you get your podcast, certainly espn, ESPN plus. We'll take a break. Phone calls coming up. Charles Barkley, top of the hour, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

[Ari Chambers]

What's up, fam? I'm sports journalist Ari Chambers.

[Sam J.]

Hey, what's up, y'?

[Paulie]

All?

[Sam J.]

It's your girl, Sam J.

[Ari Chambers]

And we're the host of Everyone watches Women's Sports, a new podcast from together. And I heart women's sports because, let's

[Sam J.]

be real, women's sports is giving us way too much to talk about these days.

[Ari Chambers]

So Kelsey Findler, she became the first female solo rower to go from California to Hawaii.

[Sam J.]

My first thought is, like, what's up with the snacks? Like, what are we? What are we eating?

[Ari Chambers]

The highlights, the rivalries, the breakout stars, the moments that take over your entire

[Sam J.]

timeline and the conversations that start during the game and somehow keep going all week. Every week, we're breaking down the biggest stories across women's sports.

[Ari Chambers]

Naomi Osaka showing out. She beat Sabalenka.

[Sam J.]

Shout out to you, Naomi, you get the palm.

[Ari Chambers]

Naomi, you get the palm for that.

[Sam J.]

Because we're not just interested in what happened. We're interested in why everyone's talking about it. Because everyone watches women's sports. Listen to everyone watches women's Sports on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Fred Armisen]

Hey, Portlandia fans.

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Kerry Brownstein and Fred Armisen here, you

[Fred Armisen]

know us, or rather, you know them. Tony and Candace, Nina and Lance, Spike and yes, the chicken.

[T-Mobile Representative]

We've played a lot of iconic characters over the years, but today we're showing up as ourselves to tell you about Podlandia. Ao rewatch our brand new podcast.

[Fred Armisen]

Each week, we'll revisit an episode of Portlandia from the very beginning, Breaking down the sketches, exploring the backstories of our most iconic characters, and revisiting the Portland locations you know and love. And opening up about our creative process.

[T-Mobile Representative]

How did any of this get made? Why do we think that was a good idea? We're ready to talk about it.

[Fred Armisen]

And we'll also be joined by the people who helped bring it all to life. Guest stars, collaborators, and friends, including director Jonathan Krisel, the mayor himself, Kyle McLaughlin, legendary musician Amy Mann, and many more.

[T-Mobile Representative]

Kyle is going for it. Here you fully improvise not just words, but a song.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I thought he was going to write. I thought you were all going to write a song.

[T-Mobile Representative]

I remember you thinking that.

[Fred Armisen]

Listen to Podlandia. Ayo. Rewatch on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Chelsea Handler]

This is Chelsea Handler from Dear Chelsea. Every week the news gets worse, the world gets crazier, and Yamanika is here to tell whoever's responsible, you're the problem.

[Yamaneika Saunders]

If you come over here to play games, I' ma check you, okay? If you do some in the news that don't sound good, I'mma play you.

[Chelsea Handler]

Join Yamanika Saunders as she breaks down the week's most problematic stories on her new podcast. You're the Problem with Yamaneika.

[Yamaneika Saunders]

Do you know I just found out who Sydney Sweeney was.

[Chelsea Handler]

New episodes weekly every Wednesday as part of my new network, the Dear Chelsea Network.

[Yamaneika Saunders]

If he got a bunch of women, then I shall a bunch of men do better or do less so I don't have to do so much.

[Chelsea Handler]

So join Yamaneika each episode as she answers one question. Who's the problem?

[Yamaneika Saunders]

I'm Yamanika, and I'm out. Listen to youo're the Problem with yamaneika on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nick Turturro]

I'm Nick Turturro. You probably know me from NYPD Blue, the Longest Yard, or Spike Lee's blackkklansman. But I'm also from Queensland, which means I know pizza. And on my new podcast, Delivering Happiness with Nick Turturro, I deliver pizza from Prince Street Pizza to a new guest.

[Rich Covino]

Are you delivering pizzas now?

[Nick Turturro]

Then we sit down for a real conversation. I've shared a slice with everyone from Seth Rollins.

[Tisha Thompson]

What are you doing?

[Caller/Listener]

My belt.

[Nick Turturro]

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[Dan Patrick]

I don't think I've ever met somebody so exactly out of their mind as I am.

[Nick Turturro]

And now we even have more great guests coming up, including the great John Turturro.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Nick Turturro]

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[Dan Patrick]

And listen now, Sean in Daytona Beach. Hi, Sean. What do you have for me?

[Caller/Listener]

Dan, thanks for calling me back. First, great conversation with Tisha Thompson. And all the best to the best booker in the business for getting back on the phone. But I was calling by the question you asked last hour. I have an answer for that. And then I have a question for you. You ask why people don't want to give LeBron his credit. And that, I think, is because nostalgia is a hell of a drug. We love TV shows and movies we grew up on. We Love the music we grew up on. And that brings me to my question for you and the Dan eds. What decade had the best one hit wonders?

[Dan Patrick]

No, I wouldn't know that, but thank you. And you're right about nostalgia that we hold on for dear life. But we had Jim Jackson on former NBA player, and he said, you know, in 15 years from now, you'll get a different generation. And they may look at LeBron differently and they may look at LeBron as the best player of all time. I don't think that's going to happen because all of Michael Jordan's moments are available. You had the Last Dance and I still point out there were more episodes of the Last Dance than the Civil War. Well, on pbs, Ken Burns did a documentary on the Civil War. Michael Jordan's Last Dance had I think maybe one or two more, maybe two more episodes. Then the Civil War. And that was strategically placed by Michael Jordan. LeBron had won the bubble championship. Mike agreed to put out that documentary, sit down for interviews. And they put that together, they rushed it to get it out. Mike was sending a message to everybody who might doubt question if he was still the greatest player. But you still have the Jordan. You know, it's like the PJ Tour with Tiger. And I don't know which one looms larger, Tiger on the PGA Tour or Michael with the NBA. And if you think about it, you know, they're. Mike is considered the greatest player. Tiger, him and Jack Nicklaus, that's it. But Tiger, with the style that he made it hip to be, to want to play at a younger age, he. He changed the game in a lot of ways. Mike changed the game as well, but more off the court with marketing, worldwide power. The shoe that he came out with. Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

Yeah, I think Michael Jordan's gonna be compared more to like Babe Ruth as far as in a hundred years, everyone's still going to look at Michael Jordan as the greatest player ever, the way we do Babe Ruth, even though a lot of us didn't see him. But now we have the Internet, we have YouTube and social media. So we saw Michael Jordan up close, and those videos are going to live forever.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I don't agree that we're going to look at LeBron differently in 15 years, but you know, that's Jim Jackson and he's very wise in, in pointing that out. I think Michael's legacy is just too big. It's omnipresent. Yes, Dylan.

[Dylan]

Yeah, I think in reality, Tiger gets compared to Jordan the most closely, probably out of anyone. But in reality, it's probably more like the LeBron and like Jack Nicklaus was Jordan where he was, you know, why

[Dan Patrick]

do I want to go down that road? No, no, no, no. Poll question. No, no, no. I, I don't. I don't want to do that. I do like the poll question of who gets a better reception going back to their former teams. I think Giannis in Milwaukee is going to. They're going to welcome him back. I think it's best for the organization that he moved on and best for him. LeBron with the Lakers. Look, the Lakers didn't want LeBron to stay. They needed to have a bigger kind of game plan here, not year to year. And so LeBron, you know, probably wasn't going to be able to stay. So I don't, you know, he helped you win a title, and hopefully he gets a good reception. Jalen Brown with the Celtics is going to be the one I'm really curious about. Really curious. Yes, Todd?

[Todd Fritz]

Why would the Celtics boo Jaylen Brown after everything he did for them? Was he really aggressively looking to get out of there? The whole debate was they both can't be together, but that wasn't his doing. Those debates about, you can't have both of these guys together on the same.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I. Jason Tatum, I think, was at a basketball camp and he had some comments where it'll be nice to not be around somebody who has to be the smartest guy in the room. I'm paraphrasing here. And that feels like a direct shot at Jalen Brown. Yes, Marv.

[Marvin]

And then Jaylen Brown came back at him and said, real intelligence is being who you are. And then put a snake, as in like Mamba, because he feels like Jason Tatum was too busy trying to be Kobe and not trying to be himself.

[Todd Fritz]

Dang.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

I'm pulling one thing going back to Jordan that protects his legacy. Let's say in 20 years, there is a better player or someone who has a better career. It's 50, 50, whether that person's wearing his shoes. The Nike Jumpman protects Jordan's logo for generations.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. All right, who's in the confessional? Todd's in the confessional. If you're watching on Peacock, Charles Barkley in about five minutes from now. Final hour in this Tuesday, Dan and the Danettes. Dan Patrick show. We're back after this.

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[Dan Patrick]

guard car typically takes 15 days after rebate submission price guarantee on talk, text

[Todd Fritz]

and 5G data exclusions like Texas and fees apply.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm US Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy. The sound of a Seatbelt it's one of the most important sounds in our car. It means everyone is ready and everyone is safe. The more our kids see us put on our seatbelts, the more natural it is for them to put theirs on too. Make it a priority. Buckle up every time. Hear the sound. Make it a habit.

[Fred Armisen]

Paid for by NHTSA Hey Portlandia fans,

[T-Mobile Representative]

Carrie Brownstein and Fred Armisen here.

[Fred Armisen]

The dream of the 90s is alive in podcast form.

[T-Mobile Representative]

We're launching Podlandia AO Rewatch our brand new podcast where we revisit every episode of Portlandia together, breaking down sketches, going deep on our iconic characters, and pulling back the curtain on how it all got made.

[Fred Armisen]

And we'll also be joined by the people who helped bring it all to life, guest stars, collaborators and friends including director Jonathan Krisel, the mayor himself, Kyle McLaughlin, legendary musician Amy Mann, and many more.

[T-Mobile Representative]

Kyle is going for it. Here you fully improvised not just words, but a song.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I thought you were all going

[Caller/Listener]

to write a song.

[T-Mobile Representative]

I remember you thinking that. Listen to Podlandia Aao rewatch on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ari Chambers]

What's up fam? I'm sports journalist Ari Chambers.

[Sam J.]

Hey, what's up, y'?

[Tisha Thompson (continued)]

All?

[Sam J.]

It's your girl, Sam J.

[Ari Chambers]

And we're the host of Everyone Watches Women's Sports, a new podcast from Together and I heart women's sports.

[Sam J.]

We're breaking down the biggest headlines.

[Ari Chambers]

Naomi Osaka showing out shout outs to you, Naomi. The viral moments I've been obsessed with

[Sam J.]

Chrisean Rock's boxing journey. She looks good, her combos are swift

[Ari Chambers]

and the stories everyone's talking about across

[Sam J.]

women's sports because everyone watches women's sports. Listen to Everyone watches women's Sports on

[Dan Patrick]

the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever

[Sam J.]

you get your podcast.

[Yamaneika Saunders]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Dan Patrick]

Guaranteed Human.