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Dan Patrick
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See full terms@mintmobile.com you are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio, Hour two on this Wednesday. We'll check in at the NFL League meetings. Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk will join us momentarily. Tom Izzo, Michigan State head coach, not thinking about retiring. He'll join us coming up a little bit later on as will Grant Hill, probably still stunned. He was on the call with Bill Raftery and Ian Eagle with the Yukon Duke finish. By the way, I keep checking the point spreads here for the final four and the Illinois game with Yukon keeps kind of going back and forth between Illinois minus one and a half. It was two and a half yesterday. They've been kind of flip flopping Michigan and Arizona stayed at Michigan minus one and a half. Oh, I also have hypothetical national championship game betting lines. If Arizona plays Connecticut, Arizona is a five and a half point favorite. Michigan versus Connecticut, Michigan is a five and a half point favor. If Michigan plays Illinois, Michigan is a three and a half point favorite. If Arizona plays Illinois, Arizona is a three and a half point favor. So just some numbers there for entertainment purposes only. 8773 DP show email address dp@danpatrick.com Twitter handle @dpshow Poll question from hour one and what are we thinking about hour two?
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Seton Yep, hour one we got up there slightly controversial. Ish1 I guess who's having the worst week, Tiger Woods, CB Buckner ital Italian soccer or Duke basketball? Right now Tiger woods has 52% of that vote, followed by CB Buckner, then Italian soccer and then Duke basketball in last. There's only about 6 or 7 percentage points separating those three bottom options though.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. And Buckner is a major league umpire. He's had some problems whether he's behind the plate or last night at first base in the brewers game where you go, ah, you must be watching a different baseball game because he missed a call at first base and you don't want to be famous if you're a referee or you're an umpire. It's rarely good where we go, oh, I remember that guy like Roger Ayers who was, you know, involved in the incident with Dan Hurley is Becoming famous even though he didn't do anything wrong, he was doing his job. But a lot of people have run with the topic of is he, did he get demoted? Did he get punished? These are headlines there that these are major outlets that they're saying basically he got demoted, he's not going to referee in the Final Four. And I don't know if anybody called the ncaa. Because you can call the NCAA now, that doesn't mean that they're going to tell you the truth. My source said to us yesterday that I told you before this was going to become a story or people are going to speculate, but I was told that he was not being demoted, that probably Roger Ayers was saying, I don't want to be a distraction here and I would be a distraction if I'm going to be there. And now that's not confirmed, just so you know, that's from my source and telling me that he did not get demoted or downgraded, so I wouldn't be doing, you know, the Final Four. The NCAA echoed those same sentiments. All right, we'll get to more phone calls coming up. He's Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live co host. And his latest novel, Big Shield, available on Amazon in ebook form for only 99 cents. It's a tale of the mob, pro sports in the age of legalized gambling. Who plays you in the book if they make it into a movie?
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I'm not in the book.
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Oh, you're not in the book. Oh, okay. No, I'm not in the book.
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Mike Florio
No. God, I'm trying to. Trying to write something people actually be interested in.
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Dan Patrick
Dan, good morning. Well, I didn't know if it was based off your father.
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Mike Florio
No, that was father of mine, kind of. That's the first one that I did that focuses on mob activity that ran rampant in my hometown of Wheeling, West Virginia in the 70s. My dad was a bookie in that crew. Inspired by is the tagline for that one. Big Shield is inspired by the reality of the NFL that it tries to ignore, that it could easily be infiltrated by betting interests and players could be corrupted. And we've seen evidence of it with the NBA and mlb, and it's just a matter of time before it happens to the NFL.
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Dan Patrick
Where is the entry point, do you think, for this kind of corruption, fixing games with the NFL?
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Mike Florio
Oh, I think players are a very easy way to do it. Not as it relates to fixing games, but fixing bets, prop bets. What we saw with Terry Rosier, right?
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Mike Florio
Leaving a game early, somebody loads up on the unders. We've seen that multiple times in the NBA. The micro betting, which I think is becoming more and more of a focus, number one, because it's so damn addictive for the gamblers. But number two, it's so easy to manipulate the outcome of a given play, to know what a given play is going to be. The main character in Big Shield, one of the things he does beyond providing information ahead of time as to what the game plan is, who's going to get the ball, how we're going to attack one play at a time. He lets it be known whether the next play is a run or a pass. And it can be that simple in a. In a world of widespread micro betting, where it's as simple as is the next player run or a pass.
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Dan Patrick
We look back last year at this time with our show notes, and we spent a couple of days on the Tush push, and it felt like it was going away. You know, the NFL was trying to manufacture numbers for the safety of the sport. We knew it wasn't aesthetically pleasing. And then all of a sudden, everybody seems to be okay with the Tush push. What happened, Mike?
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Mike Florio
Well, you know, it's funny, Dan. 22 votes against the tush push. Last year, 67% of the league was in favor of scrapping the rule. But for the fact that the constitution of the NFL requires 75% to change a rule, it would have been gone. This year. There's no discussion about it at all. Look, the goalposts constantly moved. In 2025, it was. It's a safety issue. Then it was. It's not aesthetic. It's not football. It's not this. It's not that. Some people thought it just flowed from the jealousy and resentment of the Eagles because they were using it and they pushed it all the way to a championship. I think it's as simple as. The commissioner was watching the NFC championship game, capping the 2024 season. He saw the moment where the commanders deliberately went offside enough times to get referee Sean Hockey to say, if you do it one more time, I'm awarding a touchdown under a rule the NFL has never applied in 107 years. And I think that sparked an effort to get rid of it. And when they swung and missed last year, there wasn't the impetus. Somebody told me before the season, it's going to depend on how remarkable the play is throughout 2025. And it wasn't remarkable enough to put it on anyone's radar screen.
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Dan Patrick
Okay, but if the Eagles had won The super bowl again, it would have been remarkable.
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Mike Florio
That's the key. It would have taken something to create an urgency. The NFL only has so much bandwidth. Their current urgency is this apparent plan to lock out the officials and expand the use of replay to help the high school and junior college officials. So it's all about bandwidth. How much time do you have? How many hours in a day? It, it wasn't enough last year to get it on that radar screen. Of the things the NFL is currently
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Dan Patrick
trying to do, why are they going to lock out the officials?
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Mike Florio
Well, I mean, money is always the easy answer when it comes to anything like this. And they claim they're trying to improve officiating. Now the commissioner said in his pre super bowl press conference, I'm, I'm amazed at how good the officials are. They're, they're changing their tune dramatically. And the problem with saying we need them to be better, we need them to be better. The easy answer to that is dig deep in your pocket. Use some of that gambling money you're now getting from all the different sports books and, and all the different revenue streams, and the game keeps getting more and more profitable. Use some of that money to have full time officials across the board 12 months a year. No seasonal employees, no part time employees. Everybody else connected to the NFL is working full time. So they need to be careful about how hard they bang that drum of we have to improve officiating. But I've been following it closely now and look, it seems like the kind of thing, Dan, like any other negotiation, you get in a room, you close the door, you sit down, and people of sound mind and goodwill can work something out. I feel like the NFL wants to lock them out for some other purpose, as simple as justifying an expansion of the use of technology when it comes to officiating.
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Dan Patrick
Mike Florio Pro Football Talk LIVE CO HOST but what kind of implementation are we going to have that the, the officials are going to object to?
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Mike Florio
Well, I think they'll object to anything that would eventually reduce the number of jobs. And the commissioner in the past has mentioned that they could try to find ways to use AI to improve officiating. We know that the quality of the, the camera angles is so much better. They now have that Hawkeye system in every stadium that gives the league. And it's not stuff that we routinely see on tv. The league has access to great looks at everything Now. I don't know that the league has the capacity to properly assist the replacement officials to get everything right. Think about how many Games are played at one o' clock Eastern on a Sunday. Do you have enough people in the room who know what they're doing to help Jacksonville at Houston and Tampa Bay at New Orleans and the games that don't get pulled into a primetime window? You give me a primetime game, okay, there's only one game on. We'll trust that the league, although that may be misplaced trusted times. We trust they won't screw it up. But I mean look at the controversies that come up already with instant replay. So I think this idea that oh, it won't be like last time with the fail Mary from that Seahawks packers debacle that ended up the lockout and caused the NFL to finally blink because now they can use replay centralized. I think that's too easy of a fix. But I also think it's a way for them to start experimenting with cheaper options. And maybe they are just trying to break the union. I've seen different words used in how the NFL issues its statements. That makes me wonder and I don't want to read too much into it. But it's like are they really just trying to break this union and start over again? We'll find out.
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Dan Patrick
You had the story about is the NFL looking to cap how much of individual player can make expound upon them?
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Mike Florio
Well, the NBA has had for how many years now as long as I can remember, which isn't very long anymore. But they've had the max contracts and there's a limit to what any one player can make. I've been trying to figure out the full menu of things the NFL is going to want when it's time to engage with the new NFL Players association executive director J.C. treader because the league has been waiting for things to settle down with the union. As one source explained to me over the weekend, the NFL believes its business has been quote unquote constipated by the turmoil at the nflpa. They want to get things moving. They want to get to 18 games, 16 international games every year. So what else do they want? They've made noise in the past about maybe reconfiguring the salary cap because you know expenses are going up and we pay those out of our half. That's what the owners say. We maybe need more than half of all the revenue to pay our expenses. But one of the things I've caught wind of trying to come up with this list of what all they want this possibility and I believe the union is bracing for it. Individual players, a limit on how much they can make a Cap on how much a franchise quarterback's going to make. And Dan, currently the franchise quarterbacks aren't involved in union matters. If that becomes a thing, you're going to see Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Dak Prescott, all the great quarterbacks are going to be lining up to get key spots in union management.
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Dan Patrick
Help me understand this. The commissioner, actually, I think, I think he said this, that they haven't even talked about the 18 game schedule. We know they've talked about the 18. Yes, I know. Yeah. I don't know why he doesn't say, yes, we've thought about it. Course we have. You know, just like the international games, the number of games that were going to be played internationally, we, we knew we were headed here. We know we're headed to 18 games. You know, Jerry Jones comes out and says, hey, the players can make more money if there's an 18th game. Thank you, Jerry. What is the time frame for this 18 game schedule?
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Mike Florio
And Dan, this is something that we reported the day after the super bowl and we've been talking about it more and more, and there was nothing that happened in Arizona the past few days to make me think this has changed. Super Bowl 62 in Atlanta, they do not have a date picked yet. And Peter O'Reilly, one of the NFL executive VPs, tried to downplay that the other day. But in so doing, he also said, well, not having a date allows for, you know, important things like schedule flexibility. Well, if it's going to be 17 games and one by and it starts after Labor Day weekend, we know Super Bowl 62 will be played February 13, 2028 in Atlanta. There's nothing to wait for. So what would change? They're not going back to Labor Day weekend until they have to. That's not a high ratings weekend for the NFL. They abandoned it in 2001. It would be the addition of another game. And that's specifically why I reported at the time. They don't have a date for that Super Bowl. They don't know how many games are going to play that year. So they're still holding out the possibility. And it may be slim at this point, but they're holding out hope for the possibility 18 games by 2027, which is the season after next, which is amazing when you think about it because it's this vague. Oh, it's going to happen at some point. It could be happening sooner than later.
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Dan Patrick
So, Mike, I can't plan my retirement party in Atlanta at that Super Bowl. Right. I don't know when I'm retiring.
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Mike Florio
You got to have, you got to have important scheduling flexibility. Dan, the legal. Get back to all of us now. O'Reilly said, O'Reilly said that, that it's not uncommon to not have a date at this point relative to so I, I, I think it is pretty uncommon. I think it's unprecedented to be 22 months out and not know which week they need for the convention center and thousands of hotel rooms. I think that's unprecedented. But he seemed to suggest by the start of the season we'll know. So by September you should know.
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Dan Patrick
Okay. Mike Florio, his latest novel, Big Shield, available on Amazon in ebook form for only 99 cents. It's a tale of the mob, pro sports in the age of legalized gambling. Thank you, Mike.
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Mike Florio
Dan, great talking to you, buddy.
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Dan Patrick
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Well, I tell you what, Dan, it's good to talk to you. I. First of all, I wonder if I get a grill for talking to you. I like the grill. That was good. And. And now you got Grant Hill coming up. He's one of my favorites. So I'm just sandwiched between a grill and.
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And Grant. Yeah. You want a grill?
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Oh, that sounded like it was awesome.
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Okay, I'll take care of that. Okay, I'll send you a grill. Rec tech will send you a grill, and you could have recruits in there. And, you know, I don't know if that's a violation.
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No, it's not anymore. There are no rules. Whatever you want, I can bring you in as a chef. In fact, it's no good. All right.
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Best team you face this year.
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Wow. I mean, I guess Michigan would have to be the most talented. Best team I faced. I thought Duke was awfully good. In fact, you talk about a tough situation, Dan. I kept telling my assistants I thought John Scheier did the best job he's ever done. You know, I thought that was a very good Duke team, but maybe not quite as talented as we're normally used to seeing. And they just kept winning, and that shows you how brutal this tournament is. But, you know, Michigan is one of the best that we played. Michigan. I do like UConn a lot. I think Illinois came on the best. So those are three teams in the Final Four. What the hell am I playing all those people?
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I don't know.
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Many losses, Coach.
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I got you. Iowa, Duke, Michigan, Illinois, Purdue. Michigan again. And Connecticut.
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Yeah, they were all in the, what, elite age?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So you can never rip me about scheduling, Dan. Show. Don't do that.
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Hey, I. I'll never say that you're afraid to schedule somebody, but I remember when you played UConn in the. Like, an exhibition game. How does that happen between you and Dan Hurley?
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Well, Danny called me. We're friends, you know, but we've gotten to be better friends as the year went on, even. But, you know, I like Dan. I think he's certifiably crazy. Yes. But I think he's. I think his passion, his love for his players. What he's done with that program has been phenomenal. And I just thought, one of my players, I'm always worried, are we tough enough? I knew his team was tough. And when we went there, just so you know, they kicked our butt. You know, it ended up like 10 point game, but it was. We got down 12 early, kind of like the game we played and never could catch up.
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Yeah, I remember watching that game. And if you would have said, which one of these teams is going to go further? I would have said Connecticut is going to go further in the tournament because,
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well, you have, you know, what jet he come and say about you then? You have a wonderful sense for the obvious.
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So Hurley's good. Crazy.
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Yeah. Yeah. I love him.
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But that moment that he has with Roger Ayers, can you explain that as a coach of. In that moment, out of body experience.
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Yeah, you know, we have out of body experiences, you know, and Roger Ayres, one of the better officials in the whole damn country. But, you know, sometimes officials lose it, sometimes coaches lose it. You know, we're supposed to be human. I think that's the cool part about it. We are human. And that means, you know, we let our emotions get the best of us. It's an emotional game and. But I think all in all, you'd say that most people have great respect for Dan.
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Explain to me that last 10 seconds with Duke, like, let's say you're in the huddle and you know they're going to press, they may foul. So what do you tell your team to do in that moment?
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Yeah, I'd want him to get it to my best free throw shooter, to be honest with you. And I thought that Duke did everything right. It's, you know, you got a freshman that just dribbled and, you know, I listened to Jay Billis talk about what Duke does at their practices, turning face. And you know what? Easy to say that when you get in the moment. And by the way, that freshman was unbelievable. Boozer was unbelievable early in the game, you know, and what he did the game before. So I listen, I've been a 15, got beaten by a 2. I think John did an incredible job all year. And I always tell my team, you got to be good enough to get somewhere, which is the sweet 16. After that, you got to be lucky enough and healthy enough. They weren't real healthy. And that night, they weren't real lucky. Now give UConn credit. I told Danny the next day, I said, I deserve some credit for your Comeback, because I showed you that a team could be 19 down and come back and go ahead like we did. And that damn guy gave me no credit, you know, So I don't know if I like Dan as much as I used to.
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He did talk about having a conversation with you when he was thinking about going to the Lakers because you were thinking about going to the Cavaliers. What was the advice that you gave him at that time?
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Well, I didn't want to lose him in college basketball because I think he's so good for it. But I did say we got to keep an eye on what's happening in our profession, too. And I don't know what I'd do if it was today. You know, like, he had the chance about a year or two ago. And I think things are so crazy in college athletics right now. I don't know if I'd feel different if I was to be very honest with you, because I think something has to be done with the insanity we're going through, but I don't think anybody else cares, so I'll just keep plucking along and see if I can get to a Final Four again.
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Well, let's say that opportunity came up, given these circumstances with the Cavaliers. And, you know, I don't know how old you were at the time, but.
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Well, I was a lot younger, but I bet I've had, you know, more than a couple job offers in the. In the NBA, and. And looked at one last year with Phoenix, you know, and my former player, Matt Ispia, and that was hard. That was a hard thing to turn down because, number one, I. I kind of wanted to go with him.
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Wait, so they offered you the head coaching job?
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We talked seriously about it. Let's say that. And then number two is, you know, I've been pretty vocal about it. I don't like what's going on in college athletics, but by the way, neither do 99.8% of the football and basketball coaches in America. And I think the kids are going to still find out before it's done. It's not best for them either. But in the meantime, you got to do what you got to do. And I'll let guys like you call me old school, but that means you're old school, too, and I think we're both right school.
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So we'll see what happens when the transfer portal opens. I've been told 1100 men's basketball players will be in the portal. 1100, 1101.
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My wife's thinking of putting me in the portal, too. And I guess I'm part of college basketball. But. But yeah, it's. I mean, you tell me there's any sanity to that, and you tell me that's right. And you know what people like you, media people don't do. Sorry, but since you guys can critique us, we can critique you guys once in a while. We never talk about the kids that lose and fail and all the problems that it creates and what it creates later in their life. We just talk about the successful quarterback who did it and led a team to here and there. But there's a lot of guys that fail a lot more that fail than succeed. And I don't know where they're going to go when they've been to three, four different schools. But I guess it's not my problem. I stayed put, so I'm still here.
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Tom Izzo Michigan STATE HEAD BASKETBALL COACH do kids have to go to class anymore? Because I, I bring up that used to be when I was going to school, you could be academically ineligible. Athletes were academically ineligible. I haven't heard anybody be academically ineligible in a few years here, coach.
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Boy, I love that statement. First of all, they do here. I think they do it a lot of places. But second of all, you stole my line from earlier. You know, are there any rules? Are there. Is there any accountability? I mean, it seems like if you don't like something, get a lawyer and go sue. And so I don't know. I don't know what most schools do. I know this. I'm a couple weeks away from going to my 35th straight graduation. I've seen every player here graduate that has graduated, which has been a high percentage. And yeah, we still go to class here, Dan. We really do.
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Anybody in the tournament? Did you recruit Mullins?
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Yes, I did. I did. I told him in the line, too, that he made a bad decision. He said, why? I said, you just cost me a champion.
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You think if you had him here, you'd be still playing?
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Well, put it this way, he's pretty good player, and he is, ironically, this is a true story. He's from Indiana, and my trainer is from his high school and real good friends with his dad. So when we didn't get him, I fired my trainer,
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and rightfully so. You're thinking you're in, right? I mean, if you. You got him, don't you?
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Oh, no. He was recruited by a lot of people, and I never felt that comfortable about getting them, but I just said we recruited him, but he was. He's a hell of A player, you know, and he even had some injuries this year, you know, in that early on when we played him the first time. But that kid's going to be. He's just going to get better and better as his body fills out. He's six, six. He's, he can shoot the ball pretty good from long, long, long. Yeah, that was shot. I swear to God, he can shoot it from there.
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The McDonald's All American game, it feels like everybody's between 6, 5 and 6, 8 and they all do the same thing. If you go back to the old McDonald's All American game, you might have had Kenny Anderson in there. Then you would have a Shaq. Like we don't have that, you know, separation of a six footer and a seven footer. Feels like everybody's around the same height, doing the same thing.
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Well, we had a kid in there, you know, Josiah Jervis, who's 6, 4, 6, 5.
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Yeah.
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And I think you're right. There was a lot of that in those games. And I think that's because we've got a lot of positionless basketball. The big guys have kind of gone by the wayside, sorta. But I do think, I think Charles Barkley and Shaq, those guys think the big guy's coming back. I do think when Ed in our league, you know, the 74 kid, and I think the big guys are going to come back. I think everything's cyclical. You know, everybody gets into this three point shooting because it's the new sexy thing. And you know, at the end of the day, I still think you got to be balanced in what you do.
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Ryan Day at Ohio State was talking about if you don't adapt, you die in college. Well, he was talking about college football or you retire. I mean, the guys who are, you know, right there with you or were, they've all retired or they retired earlier. Yeah, I mean, Caliper and Pacino are still doing it, and you. But you guys are dinosaurs.
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What a compliment.
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Yes.
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I think, yeah, I think I'll retire before I die, hopefully. But, you know, I do, I do talk to Ryan Day. You know, Nick Saban's a guy that, you know, when he went out, I said, wow, you know, because Nick and I started here together. And I just thought Nick would go till forever and. But, you know, I don't think it's any secret that I'm not saying what everybody's doing, but the process is, is making this more difficult of a job. I mean, you don't just coach anymore. You talk to agents. You talk to people, you raise money.
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But Tony Bennett retires and Jay Wright retire.
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I mean, they retire good guys, too, and good coaches and good friends of mine. And I think I'm just too stubborn to retire. You know, like, I feel good, to be honest with you, Dan. I still have the energy. I still love my players. I don't love my profession. And, but that's three out of four on my side. So I got to deal with the profession. Like Ryan said, adapt somewhat. But adapt doesn't mean all of a sudden there's no rules, there's no accountability. I mean, what we, what we're going through now, I mean, anytime there's a problem, just get a lawyer and fix it, you know? And I guess lawyers must be that good, or judges. But do these kids.
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Do these kids ask you for money? Do they say, this is what I want.
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I asked them for money now.
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But, but, but do they. Do they have an intermediary?
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Okay. Okay. So they don't say, I'll come to Michigan State, I want two and a half million dollars?
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No, his parents and his agents say that.
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Okay, but you're not involved in that.
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Oh, yeah, I am. Here. I, you know, I hear all These guys got GMs and all that. I just, I think it's great, but I think at the end of the day, the head coach is making the decisions. You know, like in the NBA and NFL, it's different because there's salary caps. Everybody knows there's transparency. If I looked at everything we're doing, Dan, the, the nil, the tampering, the, as you say, it's going to open next week, the transfer portal. If I had one thing I'd like to change, it would be just transparency. So we all know what everybody's making and doing, and then we're not getting lied to by everybody. Transparency would really help the profession right now.
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But, okay, what if Magic Johnson said here, hey, I got $10 million that I'm going to give that you can use? Okay, could you use his $10 million? Do you have to report that you're using his $10 million? How does that work?
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Yeah, you sort of do. I mean, they said that was a new big rule. They were going through this clearinghouse. I don't think any of them work. You heard about Rev Share, you know, where each school is going to get five, six million dollars in football programs? They're going to get 16, 17 million dollars. People are way beyond those at a lot of places, so that would help But I don't think that would solve everything.
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But. But coaching?
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Yeah, the best players. There's a lot of programs out there have spent a lot of money and didn't even get past the first weekend. So it's not always about the money either.
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No. But it feels like there's still back in the day when, you know, things were illegal and under the table, it still feels like you can do that in college athletics. You can. There's no reason why you can't do something illegal. And it's that it's going on right now just because we have this nil and you know, transfer portal. Somebody can give somebody money if they want or a car or a house or a job 100%.
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In my now, they wouldn't say that, but to me the nil means pay for play and you can just pay them to play them. And the only difference is it's. It's still sort of illegal, but it's not illegal. That's. That's what's so hard. That's what's so confusing. And who, who says what's legal and not legal anymore? You know, I don't know.
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Did, did we solve anything with this conversation?
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Yeah. I still enjoy being on your show because you're crazy and I probably got a new grill and I get to watch Grant Hill after I'm done and Magic just gave me 10 million and we figured that. I still figured John Shire did a hell of a job and it's going to be a hell of a Final Four. There's a lot of good teams in it. But I feel good about our run this year and I feel like I fell short again. So one of these days you're gonna have me on from Indianapolis or wherever the Final four is and not from my office. So it looks so boring.
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Yeah. Yeah. Stop disappointing me in it in Detroit next year.
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Yes.
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There you go.
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So I say that if we can get there next year, you should do your show from there.
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How about, how about if you win next year, would you retire a walk off in Michigan now.
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You know what I mean? People asked me that last year because we were one step from the Final Four. If you do it, you're gonna, you know, I don't have any interest in retiring right now. I don't think it would be. It would be because I'm sick of the circumstances. It's not going to be because I'm sick of coaching, sick of the players, love my university. The circumstances get to us and. But winning or not wouldn't change that
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you could walk off and walk right to the NBA Coach.
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I could walk off and rock right to my beach house.
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Yeah. And right to your rec tech grill.
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There you go. And I'd be grilling like a sop.
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Thank you, coach.
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Thanks, Dan.
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That's Thomas. Michigan State head coach. Was it public about him with Phoenix? Paulie?
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Rob Parker
I was shocked when he said it. He said he talked to the Suns and is close. I looked around, I could find nothing
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Mike Florio
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Dan Patrick
Suns last year because Matt Ishbia is a former walk on at Michigan State who's the owner of the Suns.
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Rob Parker
Yeah, he was on the 2000 team, I think that won the national title. He's a role player.
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Dan Patrick
It felt like Tom was saying something and then I don't know if he realized that he was saying something and I was like, wait a minute, hold on. I. I didn't know that. At least I don't remember that. All right, let me take a break. Got phone calls coming up. We got Grand Hill top of the hour. Back after this.
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Rob Parker
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A couple of phone calls in here. Jim in Michigan. Hi, Jim. What's on your mind today? Hey, Dan, thanks for calling me back out. I have two autograph stories and actually my parents secured the autographs. My dad and his brother were contractors early in the 60s working on a Detroit Tigers basement. And at the end of the job, he asked the the for an autograph and it was Al Kaline. I still have the picture. It's a black and white picture without Kaline, and I treasure it. Then about 10 years later, my mom was a server in Michigan here, and Evil Knievel was like my idol at the time. He had come into the the restaurant and was sitting there and she walked up to him and he wrote an autograph for me there as well. It's a happy landing. Jimmy from Evil Knievel. So I two autographs that I got via my parents, and it meant a lot to me, actually. All right, well, thank you, Jim. David in Ohio. Good morning, David. What's on your mind? Hey, morning, Dan.
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I got one thing for you.
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The Cowboys are going to win next year's Super Bowl. Thank you. Thank you, David. Good to hear from you. He crushed that.
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Rob Parker
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Dan Patrick
Bodie in Bozeman. Hey, Bodie.
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Hey, dan.
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Hey, bud. 5 11, 175.
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I've got some Vegas NBA names for you.
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But first, a quick throwback to April Fools. When you were at the Mothership and there was a. There wasn't a live look in. It was a live listening. And you had a pretend fight with Dibble. He stormed out of the room and, yeah, you fooled Me and a lot of other people. Yep. And so I feel like these are obvious, but I don't remember hearing them before. So, Vegas, names for you can't go kings, you can't go aces. But what about jacks, jokers, queens, spades, clubs, diamonds, dice hard. Well, you can't do jokers. You don't want to be called a joke or joker. Yeah, I don't. I. I don't think you want to be called queens, diamonds. Nah. Vegas strip. You know, that's. That's what I'm going with. Vegas Strip. Let's see. Rhonda in Texas. Hi, Rhonda. Welcome back. Hey, good morning, Dan.
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Dan Patrick
Volkswagen, but a Midnight Blue Classic 65 Mustang, 2/2 hatchback. Oh, yeah, that. I wish I had it. Rhonda. I could have had a high school career off the court. Yes.
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Dan Patrick
Rhonda, are you flirting with me? Yes, sir, I am. Well, thank you. Thank you.
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I think Rhonda, you know, probably laid up with surgery and sitting there watching thinking things. Apparently. Apparently, I got this kind of mint green. You're conjuring some images, apparently.
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Dan Patrick
I'll have to tell my wife that Rhonda in Texas was flirting with me. It won't be as awkward as when I had to kiss the woman during the movie blended, and it wasn't in the script. And Sandler goes, danny, try kissing her. And my daughter was on set, and she looked up, and all of a sudden, I had to. I'm rehearsing, and I'm. What's her name? Kobe McLendon. Wendy McClendon. Kobe. Okay. And I'd never met her, and I'm doing our lines, and I'm not right next to her. And I ended up in the scene kissing her. And I came down, and my daughter, she goes, you're gonna tell mom, right? I go, yes, yes. I said, hon, it's. It's acting. She goes, I know, but for actors. But not for you. Okay, but with Rhonda, I don't know, all bets are off. That won't be acting. Grant Hill, set to join us coming up next Final hour in this Wednesday after this.
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