Hour 2 - Mike Golic Sr.

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 2 with Guest Mike Golic Sr.

Date: February 10, 2026
Podcast: The Dan Patrick Show (Hour 2)
Host(s): Dan Patrick & The Danettes
Featured Guest: Mike Golic Sr.

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Main Theme & Purpose

This hour of The Dan Patrick Show covers reactions to Super Bowl 64, quirky stories surrounding the Olympics and sports memorabilia, a lighthearted debate over Disney park traditions, football analysis with Mike Golic Sr., and fan calls about sports traditions and Valentine’s Day conundrums. The segment is filled with humor and sports insight, candid banter among the Danettes, and memorable reflections on sports culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fragile Winter Olympic Medals

• [02:00] The crew discusses the Winter Olympics committee's investigation into medals breaking apart.
  • Dan: “Wouldn’t that be the top priority when you’re making these medals—making sure these medals stay together?”
• Athletes are reportedly told not to celebrate too hard or jump with them; the panelers joke about using glue or Scotch tape as a fix.

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2. Super Bowl Recap & Disneyland Tradition

• [04:35] Ongoing poll: “What will you remember this Super Bowl for?” (Options include Sam Darnold, Kenneth Walker Jr. III, Patriots offense, Bad Bunny; Bad Bunny is leading.)
• [05:09] Discussion about Sam Darnold and Kenneth Walker Jr. going to Disneyland after the Super Bowl, even though Darnold wasn’t the MVP.
  • Dan: “In the moment, if I would say to Sam Darnold, ‘You want to give the money back and just go home?’ he probably would’ve said yes.”
• Walk down memory lane: the origins of the “I’m going to Disneyland!” phrase began with Phil Simms in the late 1980s, who was paid $50,000 for the gig.

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3. A Dose of Theme Park Parenting Advice

• [09:08] The team shares personal (often comedic) parenting wisdom regarding trips to Disney parks, elaborating on the right age for kids to appreciate the experience.
  • Dan: “Why spend the money if they’re not even old enough to remember it? What’s the point?”
  • Recommendation: Wait until kids are at least four; older is better so they truly appreciate it.

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4. Life as a Sports Parent

• [12:31] Hilarious banter about the cost of raising children and their appreciation for expensive family trips.
  • Marvin: “My son doesn’t pay for anything. He better like it. We’re going to Disney. Great. You don’t pay for anything. Scrub.”
  • The crew continues to riff on the freeloading nature of kids and lasting love for Disney.

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5. Fan Call-ins: Curling, Cooper Flagg Buzz

• [15:12] Callers discuss the semantics of “curling” as a sport and back Dan up against playful critique.
• Cooper Flagg Discussion [17:12]:
  • Huge praise for the basketball phenom:
    • Dan: “He said at times he was the best player on the floor; I said, ‘Oh man.’ So we’ve been well-versed in Cooper Flagg for quite some time.”

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6. Mike Golic Sr. Joins the Show

[24:01]

a. Super Bowl 64 Immediate Legacy

• Dan: “15 years from now, when I say what do you remember about Super Bowl 64, you will say what?”
• Mike Golic Sr.: “Defense. Just like I say about when Tampa Bay won it...Baltimore...the Bears in ’85...This one was led by defense.” [24:14]

b. Bad Bunny Halftime Show

• Golic: “It’s not going to make me become a Bad Bunny fan...But I thought it was entertaining...That’s the most I’ll ever listen to Bad Bunny.” [24:36]
• He draws a parallel to opera: people enjoy the spectacle even if they don't understand the language. The NFL is broadening its international appeal.

c. Patriots, Drake May, and Quarterback Analysis

• Golic evaluates the Patriots’ future with Drake May, likening his situation to C.J. Stroud’s early NFL trajectory.
  • Offensive line issues and lack of run game were highlighted as reasons for New England’s struggles.
  • Golic critiques the offensive play calling: “They combined [Stevenson and Henderson] ran it 13 times and this was a 9-nothing game at halftime. I’m surprised they abandoned the run.” [28:25]

d. MVP Debate and Defensive Excellence

• Golic believes Devin Witherspoon could have been the Super Bowl MVP due to an exceptional defensive performance.
• Notes Seattle’s unusually clever defensive scheming and how New England’s offense couldn’t adjust.

e. Super Bowl Heartbreaks: Rams & Bills Fans

• [31:18]
  • Golic: The Rams and Bills likely feel they were one play away from the Super Bowl.
  • Remarks on a crucial play by Zach Charbonnet and how home/road advantages are often decided by small moments.

f. Running the Ball, Turnovers, and Classic Football Lessons

• Dan: “It always goes back to...play great defense, run the football, and don’t turn the ball over.”
• Golic: “Sam Darnold had 14 interceptions and 6 lost fumbles...20 turnovers and had a goose egg in the postseason. Zero turnovers. Right into the perfect formula.” [33:30]

g. Redrafting the QB Class

• [34:02]
  • No major changes in the top three (Drake May, Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels), but Bo Nix would go higher than McCarthy/Penix after their respective seasons.

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7. Valentine’s Day & The Super Bowl Overlap

• [35:34] Fan call-in about next year’s Super Bowl falling on Valentine’s Day; Dan and callers joke about marital survival strategies.
  • Advice: “If she loves you, then she’ll love that you love your Packers. I mean, bring her with you!”
  • “Valentine’s Day is every year. The Packers going to the Super Bowl is not every year.” [37:43] Marvin

Notable Moment

• Humorous recounting of Fritzi accidentally sending a racy text to a family group chat (wife plus son and daughter) during Super Bowl week.
  • Dan: “He sent a sexy message text to his wife that included his son and daughter.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Olympics Medals:

  • “Wouldn’t that be the top priority when you’re making these medals—making sure these medals stay together?” — Dan [03:44]

• On Super Bowl Commercial Traditions:

  • “Phil Simms, after beating the Broncos, was paid $50,000 to say [‘I’m going to Disneyland!’] and go to Disney World.” — Paulie [06:35]

• On Parenting Disney Trips:

  • “Why spend the money if they’re not even old enough to remember it?” — Dan [10:15]

• On the Halftime Show:

  • “Even some of the songs that are in English, we don’t understand the words. We know the chorus to them, but we don’t understand the words.” — Mike Golic Sr. [25:41]

• Super Bowl Lessons:

  • “You play great defense, run the football, and don’t turn the ball over.” — Dan [33:15]
  • “Sam Darnold had 14 interceptions and 6 lost fumbles...20 turnovers and had a goose egg in the postseason. Zero turnovers. Right into the perfect formula.” — Mike Golic Sr. [33:30]

• On the Valentine’s Day Conflict:

  • “If she loves you, then she’ll love that you love your Packers.” — Dan [36:06]
  • “Valentine’s Day is every year. The Packers going to the Super Bowl is not every year.” — Marvin [37:43]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Winter Olympics Medals Falling Apart: 02:00–04:12
• Super Bowl & Disneyland Tradition: 05:00–08:00
• Disney Parenting Advice: 09:00–11:19
• Caller on Curling & Cooper Flagg: 15:12–17:12
• Mike Golic Sr. Interview: 24:01–34:56
  • Legacy of Super Bowl 64, Halftime Show, Drake May analysis, Defensive MVP, Redrafting QBs
• Valentine’s Day vs. Super Bowl Dilemma: 35:34–37:57
• Fritzi Family Text Mishap: 39:04–40:12

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Overall Vibe

The hour is a classic blend of sports expertise and banter. The crew mixes sharp football analysis, relatable stories, and jokes with callers and among themselves. Golic Sr.’s appearance provides a deeper Super Bowl breakdown and a clear verdict on what made this year’s big game memorable: defense and coaching. Meanwhile, the recurring theme is humor—competently balancing sports insight with personality, from theme parks to family group texts.

Transcript

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Paulie, aren't all the medals already produced and on the property? What can they do to fix this?

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I don't think you can do anything. I don't know what plan B would be.

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Yes, Todd, I heard glue and Scotch tape sales have skyrockete like 450% in the area.

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That would be funny if somebody put out, you know, Scotch tape around their metal, put it out on social media.

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Who needs some glue? Who needs tape?

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You got glue? You got glue. Seaton poll question from hour one. And what are we going to go with an hour two? What will you remember this super bowl for Sam Darnold, Kenneth Walker Jr. III, Patriots offense or Bad Bunny? Right now Bad Bunny is winning with 33% of that vote. All the other options are pretty closely tied, though. Sam Darnold and Kenneth Walker jun went to Disneyland and there was a, I don't know, video or photo of Sam Darnold in one of those little teacups and he's with Walker.

[B]

They're spilling out of it.

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I don't know what he gets paid to go to Disneyland. But I think in the moment if I would say to Sam Darnold, you want to give the money Back and just go home. He probably would have said yes. But, you know, that's where you. Prior to the game, they talk to certain players on. On the teams, and, hey, if you win, we want to get you together. Or, you know, if it's the quarterback, then. But he wasn't the mvp. So Kenneth Walker. Now you get Sam Darnold, and then there's a video where they're going to Disneyland. But you just saw me. I mean, Kenneth Walker, this is great for him. He's a free agent and probably could use, you know, as much cash as he's going to get. Sam Darnold makes, you know, $33 million, but he's there in his little teacup and. Well, wasn't it Nancy Kerrigan. Oh, when she went to Disney World and they had a microphone on her, and then she said something disparaging about so lame. I mean, Sam Darnold's only 28, so he. Not out of the, you know, the age bracket there. He just doesn't have any kids. Yeah, Paulie.

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Can you guys guess who the first athlete was who said, I'm going to Disneyland after winning the super bowl and how much they got paid? I'll give you a hint. It was in the late 80s.

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Late 80s. Troy Aikman.

[B]

New York Giants quarterback Phil Sims, after beating the Broncos. Sorry, toddler. He was paid $50,000 to say it and go to Disney World.

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Yes, Marvin.

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Phil Sims was my guess.

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Oh, it was.

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Yeah, mine, too. I'm gonna say Doug Williams.

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Yeah, I was gonna say Phil Sims, too. Phil Sims. Yeah. They're looking.

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They estimate that these two guys maybe made a couple hundred grand to say it and spend the day there.

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That's a good dough. You know, it's not unlike all those dudes that got paid to do the Captain Morgan celebration a few years back. Yeah. Remember, if you go all of a sudden, touchdown. And they'd stand like Captain Morgan in the end zone, and then you realize after like, week three or four of that, you're like, wait a minute. They're getting paid to do that? It was pretty good product placement. Oh, it was great. Somebody thought of that. They should get a raise. Yes, Todd.

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Could Disney have a sense of humor? Let the guy say, I have to go to Disneyland. That would be a lot more fun. To be honest. None of them want to go. They're not going to give me that.

[A]

I doubt that Disney World would want them to.

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I think. You know what? I think people would appreciate that. That they're willing to be self deprecating. I've got to go to Disneyland. That would make me possibly want to go to Disney more.

[A]

Oh, really?

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I think it would. I'd stand in the line in the 95 degrees, and I'd wait my turn to go on the rides.

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Why are you a buzzkill?

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I think it would be hilarious. And hilarious score a lot of points.

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Oh, yeah, I'm sure they would.

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I have to go to Disneyland.

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I would go if I went by myself. Didn't have to take the kids. Yeah, I'll go to Disneyland.

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Fast pass.

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Yeah. Oh, the fast pass. Yeah. Boy, people stare daggers right into your back, right into your chest when you do the fast pass. You don't have to wait in line. Think you're so great. Yeah. Who are you? A talking hairdo? Yes.

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Are you one of those guys who would walk around with a turkey leg? You know, you see some of those guys, they're gnawing on a turkey leg going up and down the lanes there. No, you wouldn't do that.

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No.

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They do have people that do that. I've been there a number of times.

[A]

How do you think you're doing so far?

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I'm doing okay. I think you're trying not to give.

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Me a little love.

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I think Fauci was better than you gave me credit for.

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No, no, it wasn't good. I mean, you had a great week last week. You did.

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It all balances out. See what happens.

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No, Todd, every day's the super bowl here. Okay? You're better than that. Let's rally.

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I'm gonna go quiet for the next.

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Hour and a half.

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Oh, I didn't even know. I thought you left. I didn't know you were still here.

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Yes, Paul, I'm looking.

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And this is a good investment for Sam Darnold. He had to get up early and get on the jet to go there, but he gets a lifetime pass to Disney for him and his family going forward.

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I like that.

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For this appearance. So when he has kids someday.

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Yeah, he's all set. I like that. I like that. Yeah, it's a great experience. The problem is depending on how old your children are, because that heat, if you go in July or August, you're just. And that's probably when most people go. But it is death because you're dragging around toddlers, and they're melting right in. You know, if you're only as happy as your unhappiest child, and you learn that at Disney World because you can have three that are happy and one, it's just, you know, a mess. And you're there for the full day. Yeah, Paulie.

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Okay, since we're on the topic, we've all been there. I have a buddy who's getting ready to take his kid to Disney. The kid is just turned three.

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Oh, man, we're right on the C.

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I think that's a year early.

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I would say no.

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Say no.

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I would say no. I, I would say you got to, if it's a boy, got to make sure he's potty trained too. And you know, it sounds like experience. It is. Well, my son was a late developer there. Like, dude, you're three and a half. Come on, let's figure this.

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He left something in the teacup ride.

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Yeah. Why spend the money if they're not even old enough to remember it? Yep. What's the point? I would say four is the cutoff. Yeah, maybe, maybe, maybe that's even still a little aggressive. But if you pick out like three or four things, that would be great. It'll all just blend together and then, you know, it won't be mission accomplished. You got to make that kid want it a little bit. Can't just be like, I'm four now. We're going. Nah, man. What kind of report card you getting? Have you started school yet? Are you doing what? Make that kid work for it a little bit and be like, all right, this year, Skippy, you're seven, you're eight now. You finally earned it. Yeah, we're going to Disney World.

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Skippy. Skippy.

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Or you could do what we did. We just went to Disneyland. We just didn't go into Disneyland. Yeah. Is that like Wally World? Yeah. You got to the gate. Yeah. Turn around. But we stayed in a hotel that had a pool, a motel, and that was it. But it was pretty good. Disneyland looked really a lot of fun. Hey, kids, look at all the fun.

[B]

They'Re having in there. Grab a Polaroid.

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Yeah. Yes, Todd.

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But the other way could be weird too. Like you have a 19 year old that's way too enthusiastic about going to Disney. I'm like, really? Okay, you're like a sophomore in college.

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Really? Oh, no. But there are grownups who are they. They want to work there. They love that the Magic Kingdom that much. You know, a lot of you'll find that a lot of senior citizens working there because they just love that feeling when they're there. Yeah. Paulie, what is the age when kids.

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Will not go to Disney? 14, 15, 16. Where if the parents suggested they'd be like, eye roll.

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Oh, no. Really? No, there's there's rides for all ages. Yeah.

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I thought maybe that middle teenager window.

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It didn't affect my kids. Like, even now, like, they're grown and they're like, we should go to Disney World. You go on your own. Yeah. See, I think my senior class trip. Okay, maybe. Yeah. Junior. Senior year, I think it was my senior year was to Disney World in Orlando. And it was awesome. Even though I got crazy sunburned the first day. Crazy sunburn. Everybody's like, hey, man, you should put some lotion on. Like, nah, I'm good. And I spent the whole rest of the next five days covered in blisters. Is terrible, but it was awesome. Yes. Marvin.

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My son doesn't pay for anything. He better like it. We're going to Disney. Great. You don't pay for anything. Scrub.

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Adam in Michigan, a scrub called your son a scrub?

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Well, I used to call him a freeloader.

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Oh, it's only begun. He's only 11.

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I found out last week.

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Yeah, you're gonna be. He's on scholarship, man.

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Hey, big dog. You are expensive.

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Adam in Michigan. Hi, Adam. What's on your mind tonight? Yeah, you guys just remind me of the old Jack Handy quotes from snl where I took my kid to Disneyland and there was a sign that said Disneyland left, and I turned around and they cried the whole way home. But I got two things. One for Marvin, Pie to the face, Arizona. Yukon. Who goes further? Oh, yeah. He's got a couple of these bets, don't you?

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I do, yes.

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Okay. Yeah, he'll take you up on that. Adam. Dave in Cincinnati. Good morning, Dave. Hey, good morning, Dan. Thanks for taking my call. Yeah, I just couldn't stay, stand idly by and let you get attacked for this whole curling thing. Maybe they shouldn't be so sensitive before they get the name of their sport right. What is curling? That's a weight room activity. Should be sliding or pushing or sweeping or something. But curling, where's the curling? I don't understand that at all. Once again, that's Dave from Cincinnati saying that to the curling community. I want no part of that. I, you know, stay in my lane now when it comes to green day and when it comes to curling. Yeah, well, little do you know, okay, curling, the sport predates people lifting weights. So. John in Florida. Hi, John. Hey, Dan. Excuse me. I wanted to chime in on the whole John thing. Wanted to send you out a little bit of love. I don't want you to lose faith in John. Worked for 13 years from. Actually, another John from Illinois. Very Nice guy loves you too. And I wanted to chime in also on Marvin. When Marvin was answering the phone back in the day, he was the most polite person I have ever spoken to on the phone. And I'm 65 years old, so I thought I had the perfect. The perfect thing. You were doing the worst two words in sports and I said, compound fracture. And I thought, oh, I've got a perfect one. I had forgotten. I was listening to the podcast while I was driving. When I was working, Marvin very politely said, oh, we're doing best and worse of the weekend. Well, thank you, John. Yes. Marvin is well mannered. He was taught correctly by his mother who was in the military.

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Yeah. No games were being played in my house. Marvin. What? You said yes. Yes. Yes.

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You didn't say what?

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There's no way.

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No, that's a curse word in my house.

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Yeah.

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Bridget is not putting up no games.

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No.

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Let's see. Rollin in Boise. Hey, Rollin. Hi. How are you doing? Gentlemen? First time, long time. Six, two and a white chocolate mocha. 215. And like Seaton, there is a senior night in Vega, Walt Disney Landing. And it is a lot of shenanigans with a lot of seniors, so I'm surprised they're still doing that these days. But I watch curling all weekend with the family and it's a great sport. So thanks for keeping the love. And I don't know why you're getting food on that. And also we. Not a lot to talk about since football is over, but I'd love to get your take on Cooper Flag and what he is doing and what he's bringing to the game right now. He is taking it to a new level to be that age, to be the go to guy on the team. And he just turned 19 and we did an interview with him. He was still in high school. Because when I went up to Maine and Cooper is from there and I met some people who, their children played on the basketball team with him and they said, you got, you better jump on the Cooper flag bandwagon here because he's going to be the best player in the sport. And I thought, okay, best player in college. And they, they had big projections for him. And I'm thinking, okay, great players in the history of Maine, probably not a long list of great players. But then all of a sudden you see him and he's playing, you know, in Mount Verde and that's, that's a college team right there. And he was standing out there then when he went and played against the Olympic team and, you know, you see clips. But I talked to somebody who was there who worked on the staff, and I said, all right, give me the for real. He said, for real. I go, like, like for real, for real. He goes, for real, for real. I went, God, he's 18. And he said he's not afraid of anybody out here. I said, well, I just saw some of the video. He said at times he was the best player on the floor. I said, oh, man. So we've been well versed in Cooper Flag for quite some time. All right, we'll take a break. Mike Golick senior will join us and I'll ask him the question. Fifteen years from now, we will remember Super Bowl 64 what or whom? Back after this, be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Hi Bo. Hi Matt.

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[B]

Yeah, yeah, that's it. Yeah, yeah, we'll go with that.

[A]

Okay. 15 years from now, when I say what do you remember about Super Bowl 60? You will say what?

[B]

Defense. Just like I say about when Tampa Bay won it years ago, Baltimore won it years ago, the Bears in 85, even though they had Walter Payton and Jim McMahon. Those teams were led by defense. This one was led by defense.

[A]

I'm going to remember as Bad Bunny.

[B]

So, so I, I watched that. I was out there for the week obviously with my son Michael. I do the show with and we're, we're, he's 36, I'm 63. So we're obviously have different tastes in music. And I, I, as I said this, this is not going to make me become a Bad Bunny fan. I'm not going to download his music. It's nothing I've ever listened to. But I thought it was entertaining. Yeah, you know, it's, we watched it. We were at the stadium pre game and then we went back to the hotel for the game. Halftimes is a made for TV event. It's not for the people in the, in the stadium. And, and I thought, even though I didn't understand any of the words, I thought it was a, was a good show. Again, that's the, that's the most I'll ever listen to Bad Bunny. But I thought it Was produced.

[A]

Well, yeah, but I wonder, you know, when people say, well, I didn't understand it. He's, you know, singing in Spanish and if Pavarotti would have been the halftime guest, would people say, hey, can you, can you sing in English there?

[B]

Well, that, that's what I had said too. People go to opera all the time. They don't understand the language. Even, even some of the songs that are in English, we don't understand the words. We know the chorus to them, but we don't understand the words. So I listen. We know this all got politicized. I watch it for the show value. I get it from the NFL side. You've conquered the United States. You know, here you have somebody who's one of the biggest entertainers in the world and you're trying to go international with your sport. I get it. Without getting into the political side of anything, I just looked at it for the sheer entertainment and the reasons the NFL brought him in.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. And I'm not really familiar, I'm familiar with, you know, who he is, but not, not his music like he. No, you know, he. But he's selling out wherever he goes. Yeah. You know, two large stadium crowds. So I have great respect for that. You know, the Drake may fall out usually after the Super Bowl. You know, one of the two teams seems to have a little bit of a drop the following season. I'm looking at the Patriots schedule. They got a first place schedule. Now they're going to be on the road. So nobody's going to say they backed in if they make it back to the playoffs and, or the Super Bowl. But what concerns would you have with what we saw with sort of Drake May, C.J. stroud? Kind of. Wait a minute. Where did this come from? You know, concerns going into next season?

[B]

Well, I mean, listen, Drake May, I. You have to see what, what the next. And you're right to bring up CJ Stroud, you know, because we saw him have such an excellent rookie year and then struggle for the next couple of years. I still think Drake May will be fine. He's got to hold on to the ball better for sure. Offensive line, remember, he had two rookies at left guard and left tackle. And when Will Campbell came back from injury, just wasn't. Wasn't the same guy. They have an excellent defense. The defense played well.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In the super bowl without question. And I think there's a reason, I think New England, you know how they do the too early prediction for. In the odds for next year's Super Bowl. I think New England was like 10th. Yeah, Seattle was first, LA was second, the Rams were second and I think, I think New England was 10th and I think a lot of that is they're going to have a much harder schedule this year.

[A]

But I was trying to understand what Josh McDaniels was doing or not doing. If I know the left side of my line, Mike is, you know, porous. Why don't I have somebody over there just helping out? If I'm going to throw, let me give Drake May time to throw.

[B]

Listen, I agree, I absolutely agree and quite honestly the biggest issue I have with the game plan is they didn't run the ball more. Yeah, they have a two headed monster. Ramon Dre Stevenson and Travion Henderson. They combined ran it 13 times and this was a 9 nothing game at halftime. It's not like New England was out of this game. I'm surprised they abandoned the run. You keep hammer the run. Hammer the run. You may gain a yard, two yards, three yards, then you pop one for 15, then you gain a couple, then you pop one for 20. I, I was somewhat amazed that they gave up on that when they did. Knowing you're going to pass more and then putting your, your, you know, your left side of the line. The rookies on an island, both Jared Wilson and Will Campbell.

[A]

I thought New England could steal this when it was only 9 to nothing and it should have been 21 to nothing just the way Seattle was playing. And I thought just, just get something, get some momentum. And they never got any rhythm whatsoever. Now all of a sudden, I mean when you think about it, Drake May had the most passing yards in one quarter in the history of the super bowl and had a bad game.

[B]

Oh yeah. I mean listen, at that point Seattle was giving them everything they could underneath and they were getting some yards after the catch. And that really padded Drake May stats because neither, neither quarterback was great in this game. I mean Sam Darnold completed 50% of his passes at some point in this game. Dan, the New England offense had to be on the sideline in between series going okay. This Seattle team is, is showing us things that they hadn't shown Devin Witherspoon blitz more times in this game than he did in any game all season. As, as New England was trying to figure out not to get too far into the weeds. You send a guy in motion or a back in motion or a receiver in mot motion to try and figure out is the defense planes owner playing. Man, if a guy follows a guy it's A lot of times it's man, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, Seattle would follow a guy, make it look like man, and then play zone. I mean they, they just did a Great job. Mike McDonald did a great, great job in disguising defenses, bringing blitzers. I think Devin Witherspoon should have been the mvp. Again, I'm not pounding the table that Walker wanted. He had an excellent game. So I, it's not like I'm losing my mind on it, but I think I would have gone with the defensive player. But New England just had to be sitting on the sidelines going a. They're just better than us right now. We need to figure something out. And they never figured anything out.

[A]

Talking to Michael Senior, co host of Golic and Golic on FanDuel Sports Network give me the fan base that had to be thinking we should be there.

[B]

Oh boy. Probably the Rams. Even though it was Seattle that beat him. I'm sure Buffalo fans thought this was our chance. Right? This was our chance to get here with no Kansas City.

[A]

But doesn't this come down to Zach Charbonnet with that two point conversion that gave them home field advantage? Like if, if they lose that game to the Rams, Seattle's then on the road I believe for three consecutive games. So that memory just picks up the ball and. Yeah.

[B]

And yes.

[A]

So, I mean that might be the biggest play of the entire season.

[B]

It is amazing and kind of a, kind of a fluky play because there is the, the, the Bill Parcells. That's why you run all them sprints and lift all them weights for certain plays to have an effect on the year. And that play did. Right. It makes you go from being on the road to being at home now. Not saying that Seattle couldn't have won on the road. They did very well on the road this year. Extremely well on the road. So they, they could have done it as well. But I think everybody believes the next team up or, and really that NFC Championship game was really kind of the super bowl and that had the best two teams in it.

[A]

I would love to have watch the game with Josh Allen.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, their, their run defense just wasn't good enough this year. That, that, that is a glaring, glaring weakness when you're talking about in the playoffs when you can run the ball and play really good defense well, they couldn't stop the run very well. And that, that's going to hurt you. That's going to get the ball controlled on you. But I, I think those you asked about a fan Base. I think that fan base was like man, this was our chance and we blew it.

[A]

Yeah. And I, it always goes back to and I feel like I, I'm on repeat when we get to the Super Bowl. After the super bowl you play great defense, run the football and don't turn, turn the ball over.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I mean that's, that's it. You, I'll take my chances. Everybody talks about you know we're going to throw the ball and you got to have these big splash plays and I go if I can control the clock, keep your defense on the field. My defense is going to put pressure on you. And we don't have turnovers.

[B]

And that's exactly what happened. They held the ball for over seven minutes more than New England. Defense played great and Sam Darnold had 14 interceptions and six lost fumbles. I believe in the regular season 20 turnovers and had a goose egg in the postseason zero turnover. So that plays right into the perfect formula.

[A]

I'll leave you with this. If we redrafted that quarterback class with Drake May Caleb Jaden Daniels 2024.

[B]

I don't think it would be much different because remember Jaden Daniels had an excellent rookie year and he had an injury filled second year. Caleb Williams, I mean had a rough first year but look what he's done his second year. Helped drop the sacks by getting rid of the ball making hella plays outside of the of the pocket. I don't really think it would have changed much.

[A]

Well boy, honestly Bo Nicks would have gone ahead of Pennix and McCarthy.

[B]

Oh yeah, yeah yeah. Yes without question McCarthy and Penix would have been would have would have dropped out. We would have dropped lower in the first round if the first round at all especially I had my son and I we definitely had question marks about JJ McCarthy coming in from Michigan but yes, Bonix absolutely would have been the fourth quarterback. Take it.

[A]

Good to talk to you as always. Have a good off season. If there is an off season for.

[B]

You, we know there isn't.

[A]

Thank you Mike.

[B]

You got it then.

[A]

Mike Golick senior co host of Golic and golic with Mike Jr. On FanDuel Sports Network Dave in Ohio. Hey Dave, what's on your mind today? Hey Dan, you got me. Yeah. You're stomping ground. Mason Ohio 59 A bit soft. 189 soft the reason I was calling in. I know you're all about love and we need your and the Danette's help. I've just come to find out that next year's super bowl falls on Valentine's Day.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And the question. I have married 41 years. If my packers are in the super bowl, what should I do? Go to the Super Bowl. Okay. Any impact on my relationship or any advice for your other listeners out there on what to do? Well, if she loves you, then she'll love that you love your Packers. I mean, it. This isn't. I think we feel like Valentine's Day is only for the women. Like it's for us, too, right?

[B]

If you say so.

[A]

It is. It is. Yeah. It is. It should be. Should be. Yes.

[B]

And is.

[A]

Is. You can split that heart right down the middle. Our birthdays aren't even for us anymore. What are you talking about?

[B]

Yes, Todd, it's also a contrived holiday that gives restaurants a chance to do their price. Fixed menus and all kinds of things are insanely priced at a different place where you would go out to eat. And chocolates and everything else. You got to go see your team in the Super Bowl. You could celebrate Valentine's Day the day before, the week after, whatever it is.

[A]

If she loves you, then, you know, she'll, you know a lot of kind of set him free, as Sting once sang. What was the. What were the lyrics that if you.

[B]

Love somebody, set them free.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Set them free to go to LA for the Super Bowl. Yeah, absolutely. Chad and Salt Lake. Hi, Chad. What's on your mind? Well, first, my wedding anniversary is February 13, and it starts by being smart and marrying smart. My wife is a die hard sports fan. She's already planning the trip to the Super Bowl. I like that. I like that. Coverage, boys out. Kick your coverage. Thank you, Chad. And if you come to Los Angeles, hopefully you'll stop by the show. Yes, Paul, I think it was Vince.

[B]

Lombardi that said years ago, love comes second.

[A]

Didn't he say that? I think it was him. Hey. Yeah. He had a lot of, you know, great lines there. Yeah. Love. Yeah. It's a shared holiday. And if your wife knows that you love the Packer, you go to the Super Bowl. I mean, bring her with you. Yes, Marvin.

[B]

And Valentine's Day is every year. The packers going to the super bowl is not every year.

[A]

That's true. That's true. Yeah. I think we need to take back Valentine's Day just a little bit here, being quietly. Quietly.

[B]

You first.

[A]

Quietly. Yes. Let me know how it goes. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Report back to us.

[A]

Well, I did say to my wife, I said, what are you getting me for Valentine's Day? And then she said, I hadn't thought about it yet. I said, well, I hadn't thought about you either, even though I have. But I just wanted to let her know I returned serve. And I'm like, okay, yeah. How's it feel?

[B]

Yes, Todd, we also don't need all the Valentine's decorations as soon as the ball goes down. It's already a month and a half. We're already doing all the hearts and all that garbage. Not garbage, garbage.

[A]

What do you like a month and.

[B]

A half of Valentine's things all over the pharmacies and the supermarkets and everywhere you go, the doctor's office.

[A]

It's like, Todd, you'll lose. Use anything for love on any day, especially a holiday.

[B]

That is fair.

[A]

You'll be the cheesiest guy out there.

[B]

Get it where you can get it. And if it has to be only on February 14, it's so be it.

[A]

You're very transparent with your end game here.

[B]

I am.

[A]

You are. Yeah.

[B]

I'll get the chocolates and the flowers and the Julia like everybody else. You do that thing and then you keep your fingers crossed and see how the night ends.

[A]

And just make sure that you don't put your son and daughter on your text mail.

[B]

Yes, I did have that faux pas in during super bowl week. Something that was just meant for my wife was on chain text. Thankfully, it wasn't that inappropriate. But it was hinting at something.

[A]

No, no, it was. It hinted. Thankfully.

[B]

Mario showed me how quickly how to delete.

[A]

I don't.

[B]

I wouldn't have no idea. Like, once you send it that it's out there forever. No, you can delete it. You can take it back or something.

[A]

Oh, when Fritzi goes, oh, I can't believe what I did. And you know when he says that, I'm rarely surprised, but this one, I was surprised because he sent a sexy message text to his wife that included his son and daughter.

[B]

It was ill advised. It was the kind of thing that I would not want to my kids on that note, for any reason at all.

[A]

Yes, Mark.

[B]

I don't know if it was sexy. It was just inappropriate.

[A]

Well, you were there with him.

[B]

I was. We were in the car and then he gets a call and it was his wife. Didn't go, great. Yeah, I know you're showing off to your friends there in the car, but like that. Why did you send that?

[A]

Why did you.

[B]

I shouldn't have. I was in a playful mood. We had the guest booked. We were at the San Jose Sharks, and I was just feeling myself and I wasn't really thinking clearly and I was just in a silly mood.

[A]

How about we take a break? More phone calls coming up. Update the poll results. Reggie Miller will join us next hour. The NBA is talking about expansion, and no surprise, they're talking about Vegas and Seattle. We'll talk to Reggie about that. We're back after this Dan Patrick show. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Update the poll results. More phone calls. NBA expansion on the horizon. Hopefully it's Seattle and Las Vegas now. When we were in Vegas for Formula One, I had somebody who is local and an influential person in Vegas and we were driving and he said, do you want to see where the new arena is for basketball? I said, sure. And he drove me over to this area of where they're planning to have their NBA arena. And I go, okay, seems like a foregone conclusion. They're going to be in Vegas and then they're going to go back to Seattle. This is I always hated when a team left a city and took the name, the identity to another city. Like the New Orleans Jazz belonged in New Orleans, Utah. Come up with your own name, Oklahoma City Thunder. They should be the Oklahoma City Thunder, not remnants of the supersonics. So your record books, your history shouldn't include Seattle. Seattle, hopefully they get the team and they can be the supersonics again. But when you take the nickname with you, I mean, even the Minneapolis Lakers, you go to Los Angeles, you should have had another name. Now you can say, okay, the Brooklyn Dodgers going to la. Do you change the name? Yes. New York Giants. Go to the San Francisco Giants. Have your own start with that team, have your own history, your own nickname, mascot, whatever it is, team colors, all of those things. But Seattle is the supersonics. But if you go to OKC and you look at all their records, I mean, Kevin Durant played one year in Seattle.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Yeah. One of the greatest players in Seattle. Supersonics history. Yes. Marvin.

[B]

Yeah, you feel bad for guys like Gary Payton and Sean Kemp. They've never officially had their numbers retired by the supersonics because they don't have a team anymore and they can't get their numbers retired down in Oklahoma City. They never played there.

[A]

I know. Yeah. Paulie.

[B]

The Sonics left Seattle after the 08 season. They were 20 and 62. Three years later, they got 55 wins, are in the Western Conference finals, and they went on that great run.

[A]

Yeah, man, that's.

[B]

That's hurts.

[A]

Yeah. And I hate seeing their throwback uniforms in a different city. Like, I hate. It gets me. Like, it changes my mood. It gets me. So when the Titans. When the Titans go Houston Oiler throwbacks, and I'm like, no, no, that. That should be. You should be fine for doing that. Those are uniforms that belong in Houston with the. The oil rigs there, not in Nashville. And then not for nothing, but, like, it's kind of like, well, who the hell are the Texans? Where are the Oilers? That's who we wanted. Yeah. Yeah, Paulie.

[B]

So you will be in favor of taking the Oilers history and reattaching it.

[A]

To the Houston Texans more so than letting the Titans take it.

[B]

Right. You left town. You don't get.

[A]

Let the Texans be the Oilers.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Yeah. That's what should have happened.

[B]

Yeah, we got a team back.

[A]

Let's make them the Oilers again. And the history. Wikipedia. There's a gap of a few years, say, all right. No team there. Yes, Marvin.

[B]

That's what the Cleveland Browns did. So when Art Modell moved Cleveland to Baltimore, Cleveland said, you cannot be the Browns turn into the Ravens. You're an expansion franchise. And they kept all those records. So Ray Lewis and Jonathan Ogden. They're not former Browns that are now Ravens.

[A]

Well, even the Baltimore Colts. And they went to the Indianapolis. Indianapolis Colts. If I'm Baltimore, I'd say, no, no, no, no. You can take the team. You're not taking our identity here.

[B]

Yeah, Paul, I'm [e-mail] the Bible. And the Baltimore Ravens are just the Ravens. They don't have any of the other Colts lineage.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. C.J. and Denver. Hi, C.J. what's on your mind today? Oh, hey, Dan. First time last. First time long time. I want to thank you for the telegram. 57200 BP. I hope I don't make a skeptical of myself on my first phone call with you. Always wanted to call you, but I never do because I'm usually working and. Or sleeping during this time and wanted to reach out to you before you went up to the big microphone up in the sky. I have a question for Paulie and a request for Fritzi. How about we speed it up a little bit, cj? Yeah, sure. The question for Paulie is, is that the it. Because he only has one good eye. And then my request for Fritzi would be, I wonder if you could give us what if Dr. Phil was Mike Tyson's therapist. Thank you. All right. Thank you, C.J. when I go to the big microphone in the sky.

[B]

That's a little depressing. Immature.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You're just retiring in two years.

[A]

You'll still be with us, Dr. Phil analyzing Mike Tyson. Todd.

[B]

Well, you got this big painting on your face. You're going around doing all kinds of things. You think you're a movie star now and it don't make you no boxer. You got to move on from that.

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[B]

Curl and hurl your thoughts.

[A]

Thank you, Todd. Earl. Yeah. Two hours in the books. What a weird show this has been. I think you know, after getting scolded by John in Illinois to stay in my lane when it came to curling. And I'm running my mouth on curling. Ah, yes. I do run my mouth every day. Three hours. Reggie Miller will join us, get his thoughts on expansion. Also the brawl last night with the Hornets and the Pistons. He, of course, involved in the, well, you know, final hour on this Tuesday after this. This is an I Heart podcast, guaranteed human.