Hour 2 – More Gold Medal Love, NBA Tanking Continues

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 2, February 23, 2026 More Gold Medal Love, NBA Tanking Continues

Episode Overview

In this episode, Dan Patrick and his crew (Fritzi, Seaton, Marv, and Paulie) return from a snowy weekend to break down Team USA’s stunning gold medal victory in men’s hockey, reflect on the emotional moments that defined the Olympics, discuss the challenges of NBA tanking, and celebrate standout sports performances from the weekend. The hour features listener calls, poll questions, and candid roundtable banter, full of wit and deep sports knowledge.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Team USA's Gold Medal Hockey Win (02:21–16:00)

• Setting the Scene: Dan opens with the aftermath of USA’s gold medal win over Canada in men's hockey — their first Olympic gold since the “Miracle on Ice” in 1980. He emphasizes how unexpected the result was given Canada’s dominance throughout the game.
  • "For most of the game, it felt like [Canada] always had the puck... But all it takes is one or two. You have a great goaltender, and then all you need is one other person to make a play." (Dan Patrick, 04:38)
• Game Recap: The crew relives the thrilling OT goal by Jack Hughes and the dramatic 3-on-3 format. Dan shares mixed feelings about the format for such a high-stakes situation but credits both teams for adapting.
  • "Do we want three on three hockey in the Olympics in for the gold medal? No, I do not. But both teams knew you get to overtime, it's three on three..." (Dan Patrick, 06:16)
• Historic Perspective: Dan draws parallels to the 1980 Miracle on Ice, hinting at the long-term legacy this win might inspire.
  • "If they played ten times, the Soviets are winning ten times. They were that good... This is. These are professionals against professionals. But I did love the attitude, the spirit. It just. It felt big and it lived up to it." (Dan Patrick, 08:35)

2. Olympics as a Platform for New Heroes (09:30–12:58)

• Unexpected Stardom: The team marvels at how Olympics create household names—this time, Jack Hughes and Jordan Stolz among others.
• The Curling Craze: Laughter ensues as the crew admits curling is oddly addictive and accessible.
  • "Curling is that way too, that you're watching it, and then all of a sudden I become an expert... you kind of feel like you could do that one." (Dan Patrick, 09:58)
• New & Strange Olympic Sports: Discussion about unfamiliar or unusual winter events like ski mountaineering and biathlon with humorous "improvements" (like adding paintball).

3. Emotional Olympic Moments & Listener Calls (13:37–16:39)

• Emotional Moments: Callers celebrate both the men’s and women’s hockey teams' inspirational impact, especially the moving gesture of Team USA bringing Johnny Goudreau’s jersey onto the ice, honoring him and his family after tragedy.
  • "That’s a moment that his family will cherish forever. I still get goosebumps thinking about it." (Alex, Michigan, Caller, 15:00)
• Dan’s Reflection: Dan calls the gesture “well done,” highlighting the Olympics’ power to create stories that resonate beyond sports.

4. Coaches & Olympic Medals — Who Deserves the Bling? (22:05–24:45)

• Debate on Medals for Coaches: Paulie relays his wife’s question: Should Olympic coaches get medals? The crew debates whether coaches in team events deserve the same recognition as players.
  • "He said, ‘I'm not the one playing. But he said, ‘You're the one coaching.’" (Dan Patrick recounting Coach K, 23:31)
  • "It should be for everything, including the Olympics. I don't know why they have to be unique with the medals that you can't get a medal for." (Todd, 24:05)

5. NBA Talk — Standouts, Tanking & MVP Odds (24:45–27:17; 27:38–28:48)

• Celtics vs Lakers, MVP Race: Dan recaps the Celtics’ sweep of the Lakers, Jalen Brown’s MVP credentials, and returns from the Super Bowl with insider info on Jason Tatum’s injury status.
  • "Jaylen Brown has been great for the Celtics, so maybe those odds improve just a little bit." (Dan Patrick, 27:03)
• NBA Tanking Problem: With teams openly tanking and shutting down stars (e.g., Sabonis, Levine), Dan previews a serious off-season for the Commissioner, teasing a deep dive later in the hour.

6. Best & Worst of the Weekend — Roundtable (27:17–30:38)

• Todd: Best – UCLA’s comeback win over Illinois; Worst – Sacramento’s historic losing streak and tanking.
• Seaton: Best – Johannes Klaubo (Norwegian skier) wins six golds; Worst – Brittany Bowe’s triple fourth-place finishes in speed skating.
• Marvin: Best – BYU’s AJ DeBancer stuns Iowa State, and watching "Miracle" for the first time.
• Paulie: Best – Michaela Shiffrin and Jordan Stolz, breakout Olympic stars.

7. Calls on Sports Moments & Coaches’ Temperament (31:11–36:00)

• Memorable Defensive Plays: Callers recall classic defensive moments (LeBron, Jordan, Malcolm Butler) and praise USA Hockey’s legendary defense in the gold medal match.
• Coach Meltdowns: Dan critiques coaches (e.g., Mick Cronin, Danny Hurley, Bob Knight) for excessive sideline histrionics, arguing they should embody composure, not chaos.
  • "You're supposed to be the one who has decorum. You're not the kid. You're the one that's supposed to be able to maintain and not fly off the handle..." (Dan Patrick, 32:00)

8. Athlete Toughness & Sacrifice (39:47–40:46)

• The intense physicality and toughness of hockey players discussed, triggered by stories of Jack Hughes skating after losing teeth.
  • "Would you give up a couple of teeth for a gold medal?" (Dan Patrick, 40:28)
  • Todd: "I would, but I would not like it very much...but if it to the gold medal..."

9. NBA Tanking Solutions & Territorial Drafts (46:21–52:43)

• Exploring Fixes: Dan outlines various proposals to curb NBA tanking, including flattening lottery odds, restricting top-4 picks, and the historically failed “territorial draft” concept.
  • "Is there a soft landing spot for this topic where everybody is going to be satisfied? And I don't think that's going to be the case." (Dan Patrick, 50:17)
• College-Professional Loopholes: Dan warns a territorial draft would backfire today, incentivizing NBA teams to bankroll local college programs via NIL deals to gain future draft advantages.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “If they played ten times, the Soviets are winning ten times. They were that good... These are professionals against professionals.”
  – Dan Patrick, 08:35
  [Olympic perspective, comparing 2026 to 1980 Miracle]

• “The Olympics have a way of birthing new heroes like Jack Hughes … it was a great showcase for the NHL.”
  – Dan Patrick, 09:13

• “Curling is that way too—then all of a sudden I become an expert … you kind of feel like you could do that one.”
  – Dan Patrick, 09:58

• “That’s a moment that his family will cherish forever. I still get goosebumps thinking about it. Q. Freebird, and thanks for taking my call.”
  – Alex (Listener from Michigan), 15:00

• “Would you give up a couple of teeth for a gold medal?”
  – Dan Patrick, 40:28

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:21 – Show resumes, Team USA hockey gold medal analysis
• 05:59 – Play-by-play of OT gold medal goal, critique of 3-on-3
• 08:35 – Comparing 2026 win to 1980 Miracle on Ice
• 13:37 – Listener calls, emotional Olympic moments
• 22:05 – Poll updates, Medal debate for Olympic coaches
• 24:45 – NBA update: Celtics sweep Lakers, MVP race/Odds
• 27:17 – Roundtable: Best & Worst of the Weekend
• 31:11 – Callers on defensive moments, coach temperaments
• 39:47 – Athlete toughness, hockey’s unique grit
• 46:21 – NBA tanking solutions, territorial draft critique

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Episode Tone & Style

The tone is conversational, insightful, and peppered with humor. Dan’s approachability and the lively banter among the crew make the analysis more engaging, while passionate listener calls add an authentic, emotional dimension.

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For Future Reference

• Next hour teased: Al Michaels joins (likely to discuss Miracle on Ice legacy and gold medal moments)
• NBA tanking segment will continue, with a focus on possible policy solutions

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This summary encapsulates the major discussion points, memorable interactions, and cultural insights from the February 23, 2026, Hour 2 episode of The Dan Patrick Show, making it easy for listeners to catch up on news, context, and vibe.

Transcript

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[Dan Patrick]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Oh, back and ready to go back from vacation. Morale is high. Fritzi's here. Seton, Marv, Paulie, yours, tr, Julie. And the back room guys. We had a blizzard here in Connecticut and a lot of the back room guys stayed in the man cave. And I'm walking around the man cave and there's all kinds of bedding. You know, there's a lot of, you know, kind of a frat party and smells like socks. But, you know, I. I'm happy that the back room guys stayed here. So then they could be here early in the morning to help kind of clear out the snow. In fact, Jay, who's the big German's brother and the reigning most valuable back room guy, as I pull in the driveway, who's got the snowblower out but Jay, smoking a heater. And there he is. If you're watching on Peacock, he is there in the control room with Mario and Anthony. But I already told Dylan. Cause Dylan got his hurt feelings hurt last year when he didn't win the most valuable brg. And I just said, you know, I hate to tell you this, Dylan, but Jay's already got a head start for most valuable backroom guy. Yes, Todd.

[Todd]

Not to mention, dare I say some of us, that walking in today, maybe Dylan would be in the kitchen there. There'd be some omelettes, waffles, pancake. So that was a chance to really, you know, make an imp. You know, make an impact on 20, 26 here.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. I mean, you gotta buy our love. But Dylan was sleeping. He was still sleeping when Paulie came in. It's like, all right, let's go. Got a job to do. Yeah. Got a new signal. 95.7wdae, our Tampa affiliate. And they have upgraded 100,000. 100,000 kilowatts or something. Seaton is. What's it called? Yeah, Kilowatts. Is that what it is? Yeah. Or one. 100 watts. Watts. Okay. 100,000 watts.

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Seaton]

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[Dan Patrick]

Nick is there? Yep. Still dominating.

[Paulie]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd]

United States with numbers. Back across it comes check who wins it.

[Dan Patrick]

The golden goal for the United States. For the first time since the 1980 miracle, the United States takes the gold. Kenny Albert with the call, did a wonderful job with, you know, and. And, you know, he even says they got numbers. So, you know, there was that, oh, something could happen. Because a lot of times you'll see a rush and you go, oh, I didn't. I didn't really realize that they were going to end up scoring a goal. It didn't look like. It looked kind of harmless. But this is three on three hockey. And yes, do we want three on three hockey in the Olympics in for the gold medal? No, I do not. But both teams knew you get to overtime, it's three on three, and Canada should have won that three, one, four one. They had their opportunities. So I don't want to hear about, well, it's not really hockey. It is. It is, like it or not, take care of everything before you get to overtime, you don't have to worry about that. But that one was devastating because when you think, like, the United States should be better than what they are, if you look back on 46 years ago, we should be. And Canada has been great and dominating. And I really thought the way that was going in the first two periods, how does Canada not win this? And all it took was a couple of brilliant saves. And then all of a sudden, you know, you start to realize all it takes is just one play. That was it. When you get to overtime, it's just one play. Could it be Fluky? If you played 10 times, would Canada win nine? I'm not so sure about that now. If you go to the Miracle on Ice, Al Michaels will join us next hour. If they played 10 times, the Soviets are winning 10 times. They were that good. But those were professionals. USA with Micah Rusione and Jim Craig. I mean, that they were college players. This is. These are professionals against professionals. But I did love the attitude, the spirit. It just. It felt big and it lived up to it. And you know when you're watching the Olympics, when you think, oh, that person's going to win. The quad God is going to win, and then the quad God doesn't win, you're like, wait a minute, that's not supposed to happen. Lindsey Vaughn is going to be one of the big stories until she's in a hospital bed. But they. The Olympics has a way of birthing new heroes like Jack Hughes. I mean, he's a great player for the Devils. I don't know if you're tuning in on Wednesday night on ESPN plus when the Devils play the Sabers to watch Jack Hughes maybe, or his brother maybe, but I thought this was a great showcase for the NHL. And I know it's tough to do that. It's tough to do that in the middle of your season. I understand that. But you got a chance to showcase your sport. Yes, Mark.

[Todd]

Hockey, to me is kind of like soccer. Every time you see a really exciting game in the World cup, you're like,

[Dan Patrick]

how come I don't watch this more

[Todd]

every single time it happens.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, curling is that way too, that you're watching it, and then all of a sudden I become an expert, you know, and, you know, there. It's kind of really simple with what you do in curling. And you do feel like of all the sports in the Olympics, you kind of feel like you could do that one. Yes.

[Seaton]

I got a little burnt out on curling after a little while. Gotta admit, it was. It was a little overdone. Okay, it was a little overdone. I do think, though, that hockey, while it's not my favorite sport, it is

[Dan Patrick]

the best sport when it's played at its highest level, when you have the Stanley cup final. Overtime, I think, supersedes all other sports.

[Seaton]

And I think because you sort of. You need, like, the skill, like the technical skill of a soccer player, the toughness of a football player, and the, I don't know, like, speed or endurance of a basketball player maybe or something. All of that back and forth, and then you're on and then you're off or whatever. It just combines some of the best parts of all these other sports into one.

[Dan Patrick]

And they're the best athletes. When you think about what they do. And you get to have a stick and you got a stick and you're doing it on skates, people are flying around. You're allowed to punch somebody I mean, you. You do go to the, you know, the sin bin. You get a timeout. They don't. They don't suspend you. And it used to be they encouraged you to go out there and punch somebody. It was just when it's played at its highest level, I think it's better than any other sport just because of the action with that. And I. A friend of mine sent me a reminder of just how close Toronto came to winning the World Series. The force out at the plate, and then just how close there were a couple of goals that should have happened. And you think about just how close Canada came to winning the World Series, Toronto, and winning the gold medal. Yeah. Paulie.

[Paulie]

I've got an Olympic wrap up article that says curling got the most airtime because how the sport takes a long time. It's like 10 rounds or ends, as they call it. Curling got more airtime than any other sport nationally.

[Dan Patrick]

And rightfully so. Rightfully so. I did. I'm watching, like, I don't even know what the. You know, there was some kind of cross country skiing yesterday, but I didn't know exactly how long it was supposed to go, but it felt like it was going on for hours. Going through the countryside there. I mean, that now those guys, they're animals. When you're out there, those are athletes. If you've ever tried to cross country ski, your. Your lungs are burning. Like in the, you know, first 30 seconds. Yeah.

[Seaton]

See, it's so weird how you could watch especially. It seems like the Winter Olympics and every year there seems to be a new sport that I don't remember or like, is this new this year? Have they always done that? Curling had that sometime in the last, I don't know, 10 years or so, 10, 12 years where curling all of a sudden jumped down.

[Dan Patrick]

We were all.

[Seaton]

We all loved curling. That ski mountaineering thing where you're skiing up doing that. That's crazy. I don't remember that one. I don't remember that getting much attention. That is a crazy sport.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, Todd.

[Todd]

And those cross country skiers, they have a canteen, a flashlight, a backpack. They don't know how long they're gonna go. They get stuck up in the mountains somewhere. They're gonna helicopter airlift them down.

[Dan Patrick]

I would love if you could do paintball with the cross country skiing on the biathlon. So you could have people hiding in the woods.

[Paulie]

Oh, they're the targets.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yes.

[Caller]

Wow.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. I'm just spitballing here, you know, about maybe doing something like that. That would. That would be good.

[Paulie]

We'll call the ioc.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but you would have colorful paint, you know, and juxtapose that to the snow.

[Todd]

I would totally watch that.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you. Thank you, Todd. All right, Couple of phone calls in here. 877 3DP Show Operator Tyler sitting by Alex in Michigan. Good morning, Alex. What's on your mind today?

[Caller]

ADP clean 6 foot and hard 200. I don't have a bad worse for the weekend. I just wanted to share my best, better and bestest of the weekend. I'm a first time caller, longtime listener. My best of the weekend, obvious, is the US Men's team bringing home the gold on the anniversary of miracle announcement. My better of the weekend was what it meant for hockey as a whole in this country. These men's and women's teams are going to inspire an entire generation of young players across the country. And I must say, Mike Tirico's message after the game said it best. These teams are going to make these kids want to pick up a stick and play. Just such a good weekend for the sport of hockey in this country. I'm a hockey player myself, DP. I grew up watching the Red Wings dominate the 90s, which inspired so many kids here in Michigan to play. And as a Michigander, I couldn't be prouder of how well our state was represented. Yeah, Mark and Hellebuck, the Hughes brothers, Megan Keller, the list goes on. Just incredible. But my bestest of the weekend by far was the moment where the whole team huddled around with Goudreau's jersey for the winning photo and with his kids out there on the ice. Such a tragic story, but that's a moment that his family will cherish forever. I still get goosebumps thinking about it. Q. Freebird, and thanks for taking my call.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, that was their theme song was Freebird. But Johnny Hockey, and they had his jersey there. His parents were there and it kind of came out of nowhere. It was like, wow. And then they were carrying his jersey around the ice. They brought the kids out on the ice and he and his brother were, you know, tragically killed by a driver who might have been drunk. And it was just well done. It was just well done by Team usa.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paulie, like you said, it felt like a movie playing out at 10am in the morning when you're watching it. And it was so emotional and all the players, the, the production, Tirrico, it was, it's, it's a kind of sporting event that stays with you 24 hours later.

[Dan Patrick]

It's like hanging over Russell In Philly. Hey, Russ, what's on your mind? Hey, how's it going, Dan?

[Caller]

Third time, long time six one, a soft 210. So my best is obviously US men's hockey. I was watching that. I got up early to watch it. The huge boys represented well. My better. My better is Max's dunk over my man the other night with 39 points. And my worst is this 12 inches of snow I'm currently shoveling in my driveway.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, thank you, Russell. We'll take a break here. We'll update the poll results from hour one, Come up with a new poll question in an hour from now, we'll talk to al Michaels. 46 years ago, he gave us do you believe in miracles? So we'll talk to Albert. He'll join us a little later on. So back after this Dan Patrick show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's Cavino and Rich from Fox Sports Radio. Now, in addition to hearing us live weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio, we're excited to announce a brand new YouTube channel for the show. Yup, that's right. You can now watch Covino and rich live on YouTube every day. All you got to do, search COVINO and RICH FSR on YouTube again. Go to YouTube. Search COVINOENRICH FSR. Check us out on YouTube. Subscribe, hit that thumbs up icon and comment away.

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Dun dun dun.

[Todd]

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[Dan Patrick]

Seton, update the poll results from hour one. And what's the poll question for hour two?

[Seaton]

Yeah, we got two of them up there right now. Which would you rather win, gold medal at the Olympics or the Stanley Cup? Right now, the gold Medal has about 58% of that vote. And then whose career would you want related to US Hockey wins? This is from Paul. Jack Hughes, Al Michaels, or Kurt Russell? Jack Hughes has 44% of that vote, but Al Michaels coming in with 40. Okay, that's pretty good.

[Dan Patrick]

And Kurt Russell played her. Brooks in the movie.

[Seaton]

Not performing as well.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, but that's. That's okay. Maybe they forgot that he is, you know, Herb Brooks in the movie. Yes, Paul.

[Paulie]

They're all three intertwined with great sports, Olympic moments. But what great careers.

[Seaton]

All three.

[Paulie]

Jack Hughes. A long way to go, but off to a great start. I think he's 24 years old.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, what if I put a Mike. Mike Aruzioni in there? Oh, instead of Kurt Russell. So you had Al Michaels, Mike Aruzioni, or you had Jack Hughes, Kurt Russell, his great career. Yeah, great career. But, you know, we're putting him in there because he portrayed her. Brooks in the movie. Yes.

[Paulie]

My wife asked me an Olympic question. I want to pass it on to you. She was talking. She asked me who the coach was of the USA Olympic hockey team, the men's and the women's. She goes, they get medals, right? And I'm like, no, they don't get medals. She goes, that's not fair. They're the coach of the team.

[Dan Patrick]

Yep.

[Paulie]

Is that fair?

[Dan Patrick]

I would have hoped that they would have gotten medals, because I remember asking Mike Krzyzewski, and he said, you know, I'm not the one playing. But he said, you're the one coaching. I mean, I don't know. Do we do that for every sport? Should we? Well, I don't know. What. What other sport is handing out medals like that where you would be part of the ceremony where they put something around your neck, you know, I, I get it where, like, you know, these coaches, certainly hockey coaches, they're like, no, let them celebrate. Yes, Todd, but you're the gold medal

[Todd]

winning coach, just like you're the national champion coach or the other super bowl coach of the World Series. It should be for everything, including the Olympics. I don't know why they have to be unique with the medals that you can't get a medal for.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, and the assistant. Okay, but should the gymnastics coach get a medal? Why not?

[Todd]

Okay, all coaches. Maybe not every assistant and trainer, but like at least the head coach or the. Whoever's considered the person in charge in team events. Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Not individual. Yeah, team events. Okay. Like Bella, Caroly. He wasn't the, the coach. He just coached a lot of those girls.

[Todd]

Yet I feel like he should get a gold medal.

[Dan Patrick]

Little basketball here. The Celtics beat the Lakers to sweep the season series. There have been three sweeps in the last 10 years with the Celtics and Lakers, all by Boston. The last time the Lakers swept the seasonal series with The Celtics is 2013, 2014. This is the stat of the day. Stat of the day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the DP show. I'm watching Jaylen Brown and he's been carrying the Celtics. He's had an unbelievable year without Jason Tatum. And I was told at the super bowl by somebody who I consider knowledgeable on the Celtics, saying that he probably would target the end of the month, the end of February for Jason Tatum to come back. Now, I don't know what his time frame is, but this is what was told to me at the super bowl earlier this month that they would be targeting maybe the end of February for Jason Tatum. But Jalen Brown and I came in and I wanted to know where DraftKings had him for the MVP. SGA is the big favorite. Then it's Nikola Jokic. Then it's Cade Cunningham. And then it. It's really a. I guess It's a two, two man race. I mean, maybe Cade Cunningham, but SGA is minus 140. Jokers plus 300. Cade Cunningham plus 550. And then it's Victor at plus 2500. Then it's Luca at plus 4000. Same odds as Jaylen Brown. And I thought Jalen Brown might be up higher than Luca because. And, you know, and Peyton Pritchard's played really well. I mean, they've gotten a lot of contributions there. They're the number two seed. And. Okay, we can talk about the East. You know, not that competitive. Detroit's been Great. If the Knicks get some defense out of Brunson and Cat, they're going to be there in the Eastern Conference finals.

[Paulie]

Sorry have it.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but Jalen Brown has been great, been great for the Celtics, so maybe those odds improve just a little bit. Let's go around the room. Best and worst of the weekend. Todd, I'm going to start with you.

[Todd]

Best of the weekend. After trailing 33:10 on Sally and Westwood, the Bruins battled back against 10th ranked Illinois. Won in overtime 95, 94 on a buzzer beating layup. How about those UCLA Bruins worst of the weekend Also sadly, Sacramento Falls to San Antonio. 139, 122. Spurs made it eight straight wins. You're tanking kings. 16 straight losses. Not good.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, they shut down Sabonis and Levine so they're, they're done for the year. Commissioner has got got some work to do in the off season here. This is going to be a busy offseason for him to try to figure out this tanking because these teams are going what's $500,000 to us? Who cares if we get a great draft pick? And we'll talk about tanking coming up because there's a lot of different things that are on the table now and we'll kind of so, you know, sift through of what could be a good idea or what is a bad idea. Seaton Best and worst.

[Seaton]

My best of the weekend, Johannes Klobo of Norway. He's a cross country skier. He entered six events and won six golds. That's about as. I think that's about as good as you could do in the Olympics.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Seaton]

And my unfortunately worst of the weekend, Brittany bow of the U.S. she was a speed skater. She had three straight fourth place finishes. That's tough. And it's probably her last Olympics I think. But man, you go three straight races and you finish in fourth of each of those. Dang man, that's unfortunate.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Marvin.

[Todd]

Best and worst Best of the weekend BYU freshman AJ DeBancer. 29 points, 10 rebounds, 9 assists and he played all 40 minutes as they upset number six ranked Iowa State. Other Best of the weekend. I watched Miracle for the first time yesterday. Got a lot of pride and I was like, you know what showed my son, you know, let's watch Miracle together for the first time. Really, really good.

[Dan Patrick]

Why did it take you this long to get around to watching it?

[Todd]

Because I wasn't watching it. I just wasn't interested.

[Dan Patrick]

Did, did you know the ending?

[Todd]

I did.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Todd]

My wife and my son they did not. They didn't know that it wasn't the gold medal game against the Soviet Union.

[Caller]

I know.

[Todd]

They were. Everyone's like, oh, all right. And they were like. And then they won the gold medal. And they're like, what do you mean? We thought this is the gold medal game. Because the entire movie was leading up to beating the Soviet Union. I was like, nope. If they lost that game. Do you believe in miracles just for a silver medal?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Paul.

[Paulie]

A couple. Best of the weekend, Alpine skiing, women's slalom. Michaela Shiffrin. She celebrates like a gold medalist. She had a good time after her. Her win. And then USA Speed skating. Jordan stoles two goals. That guy's a killer.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I think he had two golds and a silver, maybe. But, yeah, you know, there. There's always these names that come out, they surface that you don't expect. I mean, that's the beauty of the Olympics is, you know, and the pressure that's on when you're favored to win a gold. It's nice to be that good that you're favored to win a gold, but I'd hate to have that pressure that, you know, you got to win. And even if you do win, can you really, truly celebrate the way others, you know, when they win a gold medal or any medal, it's. Well, you're supposed to win. And I think you saw that in men's figure skating. The pressure was enormous. And the quad, God talked about it, and he knew it. He knew it going in. And that was, you know, a shame to see. When you put in all of that effort, your parents and all of that money to get you to that point, and then you fall a couple times. Brian in South Carolina. Hi, Brian. What's on your mind? How you doing, Dan?

[Caller]

Long time. Third time. I listened to you growing up a little bit there on Wtoe. And then when they said something about 46 years since the last time, I was like, God, I'm old. It didn't seem that long ago, but 46 years is a long time.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Caller]

Best of the weekend, Nick. Not Nick Cronin, but the USA Hockey. But worst of weekend is Mick Cronin. Press conference. I was watching svp. I didn't watch the game in the Comeback. And then he was talking to his kids after being down about. I just wanted him to relax, which just made me laugh out loud with him being around. How do you relax? And the curling coverage, every time I turned it on, it was either on USA or NBC. I mean, the curling was. I Don't know. It's like cricket. The long sessions in cricket. They have three day matches. Sometimes it's tough to watch.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I enjoyed it. Yeah, I did. If you just want something on in the background, I thought curling was great. Have that on in the background. Yeah. Mick Cronin. These coaches who embarrass themselves on the sidelines, being demonstrative, throwing things, you're supposed to be the one who has decorum. You're not the kid. You're the one that's supposed to be able to maintain and not fly off the handle and not be immature. Mick Cronin's 54 years of age. Like, at some point, you have to look at yourself and say, how could I ever criticize my players if I act this way, react this way? Same with Bob Knight. You know, when. When Coach Knight would be talking about his players, you know, telling them to have composure and settled, and he's going crazy. And I never understood that, that if as a coach, I'm the one that has to be under control. And Mick Cronin throwing out one of his players. Okay, I understood it. He does like attention. And then you have a press conference and then you're dressing down somebody. I just don't have time for it. I find these people very boring that they want, you know, I. Look, I've criticized Danny Hurley, but he knows that. He's trying to fix that slowly, but he's. He's trying. At least he gets a couple of national championships out of this. But I'm watching these coaches, and it, you know, they get all fired up in the face of an official player, and you're the one that has to have composure, and you. And you don't have it. It's like Doug Gottlieb. Doug at his press conference. He's slamming the table and he's yelling, and I'm going, I know you're upset, but act like a professional. Act like a coach. You're. You know, these temper tantrums. I'm gonna kick something, I'm gonna throw something. I think this is the anniversary of Bob Knight throwing a chair in a game against Purdue might have been made. I think it was on this day. Where are you going? What are you doing? Yes, Todd.

[Todd]

And if any of that is done theatrically to scare or intimidate your players, is that really what your players are at their best when they're totally petrified of you and that they're going to miss a shot or they're going to miss a block? I don't Know how that brings the best out of any player.

[Dan Patrick]

I agree. I want to get your attention, but you know, do I have to have histrionics here? Do I have to put on a show? And that's what's odd to see with some of these. These are grown men who were doing this silly stuff. You signed up for this, you can't go, man, I didn't know these kids were, you know, gonna be doing stupid stuff. That doesn't mean you can do stupid stuff. Yeah, Seaton, that's.

[Seaton]

You know what, it's a professional environment. Or at least the person in charge is making millions of dollars. You know, I mean, college sports is actually a professional environment, whether we want to call it that or not. Yeah, I can almost understand it. Although I think it's embarrassing. It is though, when you get into like high school, middle school, younger kids that coaches are screaming at and it's like, dude, you're talking. I can remember my son having a coach.

[Todd]

Relax, calm down.

[Seaton]

I'm like, dude, you're screaming that at nine year olds. You're a grown ass man losing your stuff.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, dude, chill.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paul, I saw Danny Hurley of UConn just the other day at a press conference and he swore and he tried to catch himself. He goes, I was giving up sugar and swearing for lent. Oh well,

[Dan Patrick]

still giving up sugar. Chad and Charlotte. Hi, Chad. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Yeah, 58140. I was getting my best. This is for the weekend. USA Hockey all the way. Ms. Megan Keller with the winning goal. Did a tremendous move on the Canadian defender. Gotta give her props for that. My man taking the stick to the face and hitting the game winner. Nothing, nothing says hockey like that. And the hella bug blocking the third period, it got me thinking like, what is the most memorable, what is Yalls most memorable defensive moments in sports? That one has to be up there for me. The block LeBron did on Iguodala is one for me. The Michael Jordan stealing the ball from Carmel, from Carl Malone in that final game and Malcolm Butler with the intersection. I just wanted to hear some of Yalls most memorable defensive moments. Sports history.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I would say Malcolm Butler, I mean, having been right there, you know, 25 yards away to see it happen, and it won a Super Bowl. So I would say that that moment, I mean LeBron's, you know, chase down of Andre Udala is a wonderful play. People forget the Michael Jordan strip of Carl Malone because he came down and then hit the game winning shot that won the championship. But there have Been a lot of incredible defensive plays, but I would say Malcolm Butler, David in Phoenix. Hi, David. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Hey, good morning, Dan. Couple worst and couple best. Worst is Sidney Crosby being hurt. Being a Pittsburgh Penguin fan, like to see what happens in the long run there. Another Pittsburgh thing. Bill Mazeroski passed away. The best was USA Hockey, as well as. I got to see Lady Gaga about a week and a half ago.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. How was Lady Gaga?

[Caller]

We laughed, we cried, we danced.

[Dan Patrick]

Good. I love it. Yeah. Seaton.

[Seaton]

I'm wondering if, sort of to our poll question, do you think if it was a Stanley cup final, Sidney Crosby would have missed the game?

[Dan Patrick]

I'm not aware of the severity of the injury. I know that I saw quotes where he said he thought he could go. That might have been a situation where, like, you don't want to hurt your team. There they. We get caught up in. Willis Reed came out and he had a couple of jumpers, and, well, he didn't stay on the floor, but he came out and gave you that emotional lift. You know, Kirk Gibson hits the home run, but it's not like you were going to have him play the field. Like, he had one moment there that you could use him for. I don't know if there's a moment for Sidney Crosby where you could have had him come out, maybe give you an emotional lift, but you had so much talent on that team. It didn't feel like you needed Sidney Crosby. Yes.

[Seaton]

Yeah. I don't know if he would have impacted the game, but just from what's more important to a player, I have a hard time thinking that if it was the Stanley cup and he was able to make the call, he would say, I think somebody else is better out there than me tonight.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, that would be up to the coach to go, is somebody going to be better than him? But do I think if it's a Stanley cup final, that Sidney would at least give it a go? Yeah, I do. Yeah. I mean, it's really rare when those guys don't play.

[Seaton]

And what I'm reading here is his decision, not the coaches.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Seaton]

I have. I have a hard time thinking he wouldn't play.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. But the number of times when these guys get stitched up and come back and, I mean, Jack Hughes loses a couple of teeth.

[Seaton]

I don't even know if he came off the ice after that. I think he just got up and started skating again. Like.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. I don't know how that beer felt on his teeth when he's drinking something that cold. After you get your teeth chipped? Yes, Todd.

[Todd]

Well, I could think of. Besides the fact that I can't ice skate and have very little to no athletic ability, I would be like, oh, my God, I got to go to the dentist right away. I'm bleeding. Where's my teeth? I would have gotten such a panic. Forget about actually getting back on the ice anytime soon. I probably would quit hockey at that point anyway.

[Dan Patrick]

Would you give up a couple of teeth for a gold medal?

[Todd]

I would, but I would. I would not like it very much. But if it to the gold medal. Oh, you.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, you wouldn't like losing teeth, huh?

[Todd]

I think that would be. If you have that moment where you get the picture of your missing teeth and the gold medal and you got the winning goal, that's great. But in general, I'm not looking to play anything that's going to knock my teeth out.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. All right, we'll take a break. The NFL combine coming up later on this week. Is this the last time it's in Indianapolis? Are they moving it around or as there was talk about that, wasn't there that they were going to allow other cities to do the combine? I got to believe Jerry Jones would be like, well, we want to have it here in Dallas. Yes, Paulie.

[Paulie]

They announced that the combine would remain in Indy in 26, obviously 27 and 28.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. All right, we'll talk about tanking. The commissioner talked about tanking and the possible solutions as well. We're back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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[Dan Patrick]

All right, now I'll ask Al that question coming up next hour. The tanking topic was the topic of conversation at the All Star Game. I think the first question the commissioner got had to do with tanking. He's got a real problem because these teams are overt, they're blatant. And somebody brought this up because when I was growing up there used to be a territorial draft where players who played at the University of Cincinnati would play for the Cincinnati Royals. Oscar Robertson played at Cincinnati and therefore he went to the Cincinnati Royals. Bob Cousy played at Holy Cross, he went to the Boston Celtics. So you had a territorial draft and somebody brought this up. Could we get rid of the draft as we know it and tanking and have a territorial draft? Well, let me pose this to you and why it would never work. Let's say AJ Debanza, who might be the number one player in the country, he plays at byu. Well then he would go to Utah and play for the Utah Jazz. So what would stop the Utah Jazz from saying to BYU we're going to give you as much money as you need for NIL to bring in the best players in the country because we will get them on the Utah Jazz. You could have a collective helping BYU which would allow that player or players to then go to the Utah Jazz. So it wouldn't work because you would get professional teams who could then help finance college teams. So those players would then have to go to, you know, the team that was in their city. The territorial draft.

[Todd]

Yes, Martin, the Charlotte Hornets would benefit greatly from that. Yeah, get all those guys from Duke of North Carolina.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, they get too many players. But you know, territorial draft, well, you know, I guess it worked back in the 60s, but it can't work now. It just too much money at stake for these teams. Nil. And then all of a sudden AJ Debanza is on the Utah Jazz just because he went to byu. But people propose that there's, there's just so many, what if everybody's in the lottery? What if your picks aren't protected? Every team has the same odds. That's been brought up. What if, and this is something I brought up to the commissioner and that is after your team is eliminated, the wins that you get by being competitive will help increase your odds in the lottery. Therefore, you're not shutting down Zach Levine and Sabonis if you're Sacramento or you would like for them to be able to play. But also understand this with these players, the players, you know, they don't. You're going to be bringing in somebody who's going to take somebody's place on that team. And you know, getting everybody to have a common goal, that's challenging here. But there's so many different facets attached to this that I just, I don't know if there is a, is there a soft landing spot for this topic where everybody is going to be satisfied? And I don't think that's going to be the case. And you know, even if ratings go down, understand they're in the midst of what, a 10 or 11 year deal worth billions of dollars. These players, they don't care what's happening in 10 years from now or the ratings go down. Like you got all this money there. The commissioner and the owners are the ones who have a problem here. Now the players, players are going, hey, I'm going to play 55 games and maybe extend my career by two extra years and maybe make an extra $40 million. So I don't know if, if there's a. Oh, okay, that makes the most sense. I don't know if there's that moment. Yes, Todd.

[Todd]

And what if your team is really trying and they're just not good enough and you want to have parody, but this team that's actually not tanking, they just don't have a good enough roster. And now they have the equal chance of getting the top picks as the better teams. And where does that leave you in terms of trying to make teams more equitable or have a chance in the next couple of years to win a title like the NFL tries to do?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, they're. They're looking at lottery odds allocated based on two year records. Lottery extended to include play in teams flatten the odds for all lottery teams. No longer allowing a team to pick in the top four in consecutive years. Teams can't pick in the top four the year after making the conference. They're just throwing out as anything and everything. Yeah, see, it sounds a lot like

[Seaton]

how HBO determines the hard knocks team. Well, you have to do this, but you can't have done it in the last four years. But then you have to have a bad rugby. You have to won this.

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