Hour 2 – NBA All-Star Game; America vs. International, Ross Dellenger

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show: Hour 2 – NBA All-Star Game; America vs. International

Release Date: May 27, 2025

Introduction

In the second hour of this episode of The Dan Patrick Show, hosts and recurring guests delve deep into the current NBA playoffs, discuss potential changes to the NBA All-Star Game format, and explore the evolving landscape of college football playoffs. The conversation is enriched with listener interactions, expert insights, and dynamic debates that cater to sports enthusiasts and casual fans alike.

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NBA Playoffs Update

Timberwolves vs. OKC Thunder Showdown

The hour kicks off with an in-depth analysis of the recent clash between the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Oklahoma City Thunder. The Timberwolves triumphed with a narrow 31-40 victory over the Timberwolves, demonstrating their balanced team dynamics. Key players like Jaden McDaniels, Dante DiVincenzo, Nikola Vucevic, and Walker showcased impressive performances, each scoring over 20 points in the game (Zeitstamp 04:47).

Anthony Edwards' Performance Under Scrutiny

Despite the Timberwolves' victory, spotlight turns to Anthony Edwards, whose performance raised eyebrows. Edwards scored five at 13 and 16 points, leading to questions about his readiness for high-stakes moments. Dan Patrick highlights Edwards’ own reflection on his performance:

"When he says he wasn't terrible, that doesn't cut it, not for a great player." (05:07)

Edwards responds by emphasizing his decision-making:

"I don't look at it like I struggled or he struggled. They just, they had a good game. Plan making us get off the ball, Especially for me, man, it was super in the gaps." (04:47)

Tyrese Halliburton and Parental Presence

The discussion shifts to an intriguing subplot involving Tyrese Halliburton’s father, who will no longer be allowed on the court during games. Marv Albert interjects humorously about potential scenarios:

"Do Tyrese and his father go through scenarios like Tyrese goes, if I hit a game winner over at Brunson, you're gonna do..." (06:56)

Listeners engage in a lively debate about whether it’s worse to embarrass parents or kids at sporting events. Ryan Seacrest shares a personal anecdote:

"I got a lot more of those where that one came from... I go, remember when you took all your clothes off at friendlies and you ran around the restaurant and mom couldn't catch you and then you could just see the look in her face like, are you really saying this right now in front of all my friends?" (08:08)

Marv Albert suggests a balanced approach:

"Somewhere in between where you're cheering and paying attention and maybe saying, oh, come on, ref. A little, little better on those calls." (09:55)

Interactive Poll: Embarrassing Parents vs. Kids

Paul Pabst introduces a compelling poll question:

"Which is worse, embarrassing your parents or embarrassing your kids?" (07:19)

Ryan Seacrest shares his preference for embarrassing parents, recounting moments when his father's spirited support backfired humorously. The conversation underscores the delicate balance parents and children navigate in public settings.

Proposed NBA All-Star Game Format: America vs. International

Dan Patrick's Bold Proposal

Dan Patrick ignites the main discussion by proposing a revolutionary format for the NBA All-Star Game:

"The United States against the rest of the world... If I was the NBA, what do you have to lose? You can't lose, you know, more, more of your audience." (11:06)

He envisions a competitive and nationalistic twist that could rejuvenate interest in the event.

Team Composition and National Anthem Challenges

The hosts and guests delve into the logistics of assembling teams under this format. Concerns about roster depth and national anthem proceedings are addressed:

"You play a few seconds of 19 different countries and mix it together. You know, the US has a national anthem. This is a bunch of countries, and you're not gonna pick one." (14:43)

Seton O'Connor humorously points out the complication of integrating multiple national anthems:

"Each game, you pick a different country... So then you got nine seconds. In my country, you only played five seconds. What is that about?" (15:06)

Voicing Support and Skepticism

Marv Albert lists potential star players for the international team, including Luka Dončić, Nikola Jokić, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Rudy Gobert, and Victor Wembanyama:

"It's official. Is there an umlaut as well?" (16:00)

Paul Pabst adds potential names like Kristaps Porziņģis and Stephen Curry, debating their eligibility and national affiliations.

Russell Wilson echoes optimism, reaffirming his support for the format change:

"These athletes have egos. It's all about country pride. So I think that would be the best way to go." (29:32)

College Football Playoffs Expansion

Conversation with Ross Dellenger

Transitioning to college football, the show welcomes Ross Dellenger, Yahoo Sports' senior college football reporter, to discuss the potential expansion of the playoffs to 16 teams.

Proposed Formats and Conference Dynamics

Dellenger outlines the primary models under consideration:

• 4-4-2-2-1 Model: Four automatic qualifiers each from the Big Ten and SEC, two from ACC and Big 12, one from the Group of Six, and three at-large bids.

"The Big Ten has kind of swung its support behind a model that grants four automatic qualifiers to the Big Ten and the SEC..." (43:40)

He highlights the SEC President Greg Sankey's hints towards supporting this model, despite not formally adopting it.

Potential Challenges and Stakeholder Interests

Russell Wilson discusses the influence of private equity and Super League proposals, emphasizing the need for streamlined TV contracts and centralized leadership in college athletics:

"College sports, specifically college football, is vastly undervalued. They need to consolidate all the media rights, the TV deal." (47:21)

Future Implications

Dellenger predicts significant changes by 2030-2032, as major TV contracts like the College Football Playoff (CFP) and NCAA tournaments come up for renewal, potentially paving the way for a more unified and expansive playoff system.

Best and Worst of the Weekend

Highlights and Lowlights

Listeners share their weekend experiences, with Paul Pabst celebrating the announcement of "The Devil Wears Prada 2" and Todd Fritz commending Detroit Tigers' pitcher Derek Skubal's impressive performance.

Conversely, the Indiana Pacers' loss after relinquishing a 20-point lead is cited as the weekend's worst moment, reflecting on strategic missteps and player fatigue.

Additional Discussions

Gut Microbiome and Mental Health

The hosts briefly touch upon the significance of gut microbiome health, referencing episodes from related podcasts like Dope Labs and Just Heal with Dr. J. These segments highlight the interconnectedness of physical health, mental well-being, and overall performance.

Listener Interactions and Anecdotes

Throughout the hour, hosts engage with listener calls, sharing personal stories and humorous exchanges, which add a relatable and entertaining layer to the discussions.

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Conclusion

This episode of The Dan Patrick Show offers a comprehensive exploration of current sports topics, blending statistical analysis with personal anecdotes and forward-thinking proposals. From the nitty-gritty of NBA playoffs and potential All-Star Game transformations to the intricate shifts in college football playoffs, the hosts provide a nuanced perspective that encourages listeners to rethink traditional formats and anticipate future developments in the sports world.

Notable Quotes:

• Dan Patrick on All-Star Game Proposal:

  "You can't lose, you know, more, more of your audience." (11:06)

• Ryan Seacrest on College Football Expansion:

  "Will you be able to create a situation where it's the Pro Bowl? Nobody cares." (19:32)

• Paul Pabst on Best News:

  "Massive, massive news dropped this weekend." (34:10)

• Marv Albert on Player Selection:

  "Luka, Jokic, Giannis, Rudy Gobert, Wemby." (15:32)

For those interested in staying updated on these evolving discussions, subscribing to The Dan Patrick Show via the iHeartRadio app or other podcast platforms is highly recommended.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

And T connecting changes everything. You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Alrighty. Welcome to the program. Ready to go outward two on this gang's all here. Fritzi in the back row, the minister of humor, Seaton's here, Marv Paulie, yours truly, and the BRGs. Coming up, a little bit more on college football with what is happening, what is going to happen, and right now, a sport that is in limbo. We'll have that for you coming up. Jim Jackson covering the NBA playoffs, one of our faves. He will join us a little bit later on as well. Thunder up 31 on the Timberwolves. SGA gets 40 and also gets his MVP. The Timberwolves have been built for the playoffs and they do have a balanced team. Jaden McDaniels, Dante DiVincenzo, Nikkel, Alexander Walker. So they had 20 or more points in this game last night. So that's a recipe for a victory, right? Well, Anthony Edwards wasn't great. Five at 13 and 16 points. You know, when he says he wasn't terrible, that doesn't cut it, not for a great player. And you have to come up big. Now, granted, they only lost by two, which you know, would lead you to believe if Anthony Edwards plays his normal game, they're winning this. But Minnesota now down 3 1. Role players are doing their part. The question is, can Anthony Edwards be. Is he ready for this moment? Here's Anthony Edwards on his performance last night.

[Todd Fritz]

I don't look at it like I struggled or he struggled. They just, they had a good game. Plan making us get off the ball, Especially for me, man, it was super in the gaps.

[Jim Jackson]

I made the right play all night.

[Todd Fritz]

So I don't really look at it like I struggled. I didn't get enough shots to say I struggled. So that's my. It might be how you guys look.

[Ryan Seacrest]

At it, but, yeah, I don't struggle at all.

[Todd Fritz]

It was just I made the right play.

[Ryan Seacrest]

We struggled to get his shots, so he did struggle. But Minnesota, you know, realized this probably, and said, let's spread the wealth, then. They're not going to let Anthony Edwards beat us and give credit to okc. I mean, they took a risk here. They took the ball out of the hands of their best player. Can they continue with that philosophy? But keep in mind, OKC has three players who really focus on defense. Hartenstein, Chad Holmgren, and Lou Dort. They focus on defense. They know their role. And now it's up to SGA and the rest of the players to kind of fill in the blanks. And they only won by two, but all you got to do is win by one. Now they're up three games to one. You have the Knicks getting two and a half at the Pacers, game four. And most importantly, Tyrese Halliburton's dad will be allowed back in the building, but he's not going to be allowed on the floor. He's got to be up in. Up in a suite. Probably had to have that tough talk there. You know, normally it's the parent where they say, all right, Jimmy, come here. And then all of a sudden, you got to go and sit down. Parents are talking to you. I don't know if Tyrese Halliburton says to his dad, dad, come on, let's have the talk. Okay? Have a seat. You promise to be on your best behavior? I do promise. I do. Okay. We're not gonna antagonize anybody. We're not going on the floor. We're not gonna hold up any teach. Right? Right. Okay. Promise? Yeah, I promise. Okay. All right, let's try it this one time, because when we get to the NBA finals, I want you to be back so you can sit in your normal seat there. Okay? Thank you, Son. Yes, Paul?

[Marv Albert]

Do Tyrese and his father go through scenarios like Tyrese goes, if I hit a game winner over at Brunson, you're gonna do.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Sit there normally, not nothing.

[Marv Albert]

Stay in the swing.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That's the right answer. Yes. Yes, Seaton.

[Paul Pabst]

All right, poll question for hour two. We've actually had it up there for hour one as well. But which is worse, embarrassing your parents or embarrassing your kids?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, I would say embarrassing your parents. I take great joy in embarrassing my kids.

[Paul Pabst]

Yeah, but there's times where, like, you humiliate yourself and it's embarrassing to your kids. I don't mean like, it's a birthday party and you're like, I remember the time you, whatever, it's just like joking. It's like, wow, you really act like an idiot. And you embarrassed your kids.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, I did that with my youngest daughter. I don't know how old she was when I told the story. She's probably 25. And I go, remember when you took all your clothes off at friendlies and you ran around the restaurant and mom couldn't catch you and then you could just see the look in her face like, are you really saying this right now in front of all my friends? So, yeah, yeah, I got a lot more of those where that one came from. But yeah, if you're gonna embarrass your kids, I think that goes along with being a parent. You're allowed to do that.

[Paul Pabst]

But if you're at, say we keep it in this, in this example, you're at a sporting event. Is it worse to be the child on the court who does something that embarrasses the parents in the stand or the parents in the stand embarrassing the kid on the court?

[Ryan Seacrest]

I think it's worse for the parents. Now, I don't want to say my dad embarrassed me, but when the officiating was, was not good, he would take out his white hanky and he would wave it. And you could hear my dad yelling, pitiful. I think he somehow made it like five syllables. But the way he pronounced pity, full. But he had a white hanky and he would wave it. He had surrendered.

[Paul Pabst]

I love that he surrendered because the officiating was so bad.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Forget it. It's pitiful. Yes, yes. And one of the greatest moments my father ever had, watching me play basketball, we're getting blown out. I got in found trouble. And he's all over this official. And this official official was really a well respected official, mild mannered, and next thing I know, he's standing, it's a timeout. And he has got his back to my father, who's like seven rows back, and he flips my father the bird behind his back. And my dad thought it was one of the greatest moments. He goes, I got to him, I said, I don't think so. I don't think so. I think he might have gotten to you. Yes.

[Seton O'Connor]

Todd, would you Rather have your parent yelling, a combination of encouragement and frustration and everything that comes with being into it. Or you look up and he's like reading the newspaper, he's on his phone and he looks like he's doing your favor by being at the game, sitting there, not really paying attention at all.

[Ryan Seacrest]

What would you rather have?

[Seton O'Connor]

I'd rather have the yelling and screaming and run the risk of embarrassment.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, I think that's the obvious answer. Yes. Yes.

[Marv Albert]

Actually, the answer is neither. Somewhere in between where you're cheering and paying attention and maybe saying, oh, come on, ref. A little, little better on those calls.

[Ryan Seacrest]

But not, yeah, but I can't have my dad on a phone or reading or acting like he's not there.

[Marv Albert]

It's got to be like calm encouragement.

[Ryan Seacrest]

No, I want my dad into it. I'm fine with that. Like, I don't want him, you know, to embarrass himself. But I. My father, he. He had fun and he was spirited and I appreciated that. But I could hear him. That's the problem. And it would be quiet, you know. You know, all of a sudden you're at the free throw line and you could hear my dad yelling out pitiful. And waving, no, no, never. But he wave his white hanky, man, and be like, all right, all right, let's go.

[Todd Fritz]

That's.

[Paul Pabst]

The white hanky is just the best.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I love that. Oh, yeah.

[Paul Pabst]

Surrender.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yep, yep, I surrender. Yes, Mark.

[Todd Fritz]

For some of you guys playing sports, did you guys have second hand embarrassment for some of your teammates that had parents that would just go crazy? Because that happened to me a couple times where I was like, man, I feel really bad for Justin Torito because his dad was going crazy on the sidelines.

[Ryan Seacrest]

We're in the names here. All right. 8773-DP-SHoM email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @dpshow Best and worst weekend. We'll give you hours. Coming up, more of your phone calls. Giannis brought up something. Now this is something that we brought up. And I'm all for this. The United States against the rest of the world with the All Star Game. So for all of the people who say no thumbs down to this, you just want to keep the All Star Game the way it is. I would take a chance if I was the NBA. What do you have to lose? You can't lose, you know, more, more of your audience. This would be exciting, I think, playing for your country and playing and you could build. Now, granted, it's not going to be a deep roster. I, I Hear that? The, you know, the players not from the United States. It won't be a deep roster. Okay, so maybe we have, first of all, we have maybe the five best players in the NBA are going to be playing for Team Europe or Team World, whatever it's going to be called. I'll take my chances with those five. And you could have 10 great players or very good players. I might have great. Five great players. And then, you know, I might have five that are really good players or good players. What do you have to lose considering the way it is now? You know, when's the last time you went, man, can't wait to watch the All Star Game? This. You would, you'd give it, you'd give it a shot. First time you'd give this a shot. Yes, Marvin.

[Todd Fritz]

But do you really think somebody like Joker is going to take it serious? He's not playing for Slovenia. He's playing for the world.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I mean, you know why? Because everybody else will take it serious. That's the key. They will take it serious. Are you sure it's. Yes.

[Todd Fritz]

Are you sure they're going to take it serious?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes. Yes. First time around. Yes. And then let's say they win, then all of a sudden now it becomes a rivalry. If, if they would happen to beat Team usa now you have something there and you know, you could do the first team to 150 points or whatever if you want to add another gimmick to it. I don't know. But I, I do love the fact that if I put, you know, sga, I put Giannis Joker, I put Luca. Who else am I missing in there of the five best players in the game? Any. Let's see, Embiid is Cameroon.

[Marv Albert]

Yeah.

[Todd Fritz]

But I believe he played for America in the Olympics.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, I know. So we, we might not have him in there, but if I have four of the top six players and then I think it would be interesting. Yes.

[Todd Fritz]

Mark, what about Sabonis? It's, it's international sounding. Even though he was born in Portland.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. Well, I wonder if they would give him a waiver there since his father is from Russia. He could do that. Yes.

[Marv Albert]

Paul, can we claim him now? Portland definitely. In America.

[Paul Pabst]

I just checked.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes.

[Marv Albert]

One thing about this though. I think a decade ago the NBA would not have wanted to do international versus USA players because if they lost, what happened to the USA basketball players? But it's clear that this league is prioritizing international growth over everything. The next generation.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. I mean, it's payback for the Dream Team.

[Marv Albert]

30 years later.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

32 years.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes. I, I, if anything, it's validation of the Dream Team and what the Dream Team's impact was on the rest of the world. Yes, Todd, I'd like to know what.

[Seton O'Connor]

The world the national anthem might sound like. You play a few seconds of 19 different countries and mix it together. You know, the US has a national anthem. This is a bunch of countries, and you're not gonna pick one. Each game, you pick a different country. I don't know how many games there are. You got to kind of. It's one game. Got to put it all together.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I wasn't gonna go there. I was thinking of other things. But, you know, I'm sure that, you know, that that maybe is something that would have to be on the table.

[Seton O'Connor]

So then you got nine seconds. In my country, you only played five seconds. What is that about?

[Ryan Seacrest]

All right, all right. Maybe we could do a mash up there, you know? Yes.

[Todd Fritz]

Marv Sabonis played for Lithuania in the Olympics. So he's an international guy.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Official.

[Marv Albert]

We lost him.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Alrighty. And so it goes. I like it. But Giannis is saying, yeah, this would be awesome. See, he would be into it. Everybody else would be into it. I really believe that. Yes.

[Marv Albert]

Paul, I've got a list. It's Luca, Jokic, Giannis, Rudy Gobert, Wemby.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah.

[Paul Pabst]

Kyrie could be in there. He could play for Australia.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Wow. Yeah.

[Paul Pabst]

Which I think he's actually talked about doing already.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, I believe so.

[Marv Albert]

Should lock him down. A Sabonis, Lowry, Markkanen, Kristaps. If healthy. Franz Wagner. You love Franz Wagner.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Vog.

[Marv Albert]

If you pronounce W with a V, you're international.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It's official. Is there an umlaut as well?

[Marv Albert]

Yusuf, Nurkic. Tons of continents.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. All right. It might be a little dry at the end of the roster, but that's okay. I'd like to see that. Starting five, though. That'd be pretty good. Randy in Pennsylvania leads us off, hour two. Good morning, Randy. What's on your mind? Good morning, children. God bless you all. Welcome back.

[Russell Wilson]

Nobody covers bear spawning and motorsports like this show.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Thank you. Like, was Mr. Fritz serious? Did he actually look up bear spawning? I'm just. I'm just curious.

[Seton O'Connor]

I did. I thought Dan misspoke and I was trying to actually help him out because I thought he said bears were spawning. So what? He was trying to do something good. Ended up being, you know, something foolish and ridiculous that I took some abuse.

[Ryan Seacrest]

For my pants a little bit on that one. I appreciate it. Can we do a best fester and bestest of the weekend, please? Yeah. If you missed Todd in the first hour. I was talking about a trip where I ran into a bear and I said that, you know, the salmon were spawning and Todd thought I was saying the bears were spawning. They were. It was the salmon spawning. But that was first hour. Okay. Randy, your best and best investor. Sir. Sir. Best was 11 hours of motorsports on Sunday. I hope Mr. Pabst enjoyed himself. Bester was 1340 miles of motorsports on Sunday. But with your kind permission, we'll push the bestest to Mr. Fritz and bear spawning. God bless you, sir. Get ready.

[Seton O'Connor]

Bears do spawn. They're just. In that particular story, there was no base.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I don't think they do. I don't think it's called look that up too.

[Seton O'Connor]

They're the. They're.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I don't think they. I don't know if they use that phrase. They hibernate. Are you staying with this?

[Seton O'Connor]

No. I thought you had made you die on. And I ended up being my mistake.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I did Google bear spawning, but you made a mistake. That's it. Then we move on.

[Seton O'Connor]

And I'm owning that mistake.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You're still.

[Seton O'Connor]

But no, my heart was in a good place because I thought you said bear sporting.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You're.

[Marv Albert]

You're leasing that mistake. You're not owning that mistake.

[Seton O'Connor]

I did see something about bear spawning, but that wasn't your particular story.

[Paul Pabst]

The thing that Todd is talking about about bear spawning is in a video game. Bears do not really spawn in real life. Not the same way that fish do. They. They give birth to cubs.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Alrighty. Zach in Knoxville. Hi, Zach. What's on your mind?

[Paul Pabst]

Yes. Bonds can spare. Can spawn in various video games. For example, the long dark bears respawn at a certain time. It's a video game.

[Seton O'Connor]

There you go.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That had nothing to do with me in British Columbia with a bear that was 10ft away. I was not playing a video game.

[Seton O'Connor]

Games are very likely.

[Ryan Seacrest]

The bear was not playing a video game either. Okay. Hey, Zach.

[Russell Wilson]

Make the smooth transition here to my question of how would you feel about the NBA and possibly rolling it out in that new all star format going to the Elam ending. It would incentivize people to play more defense and not fallopy into games. Are you familiar with that?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes, yes, I'm. I'm open to any of it because right now it's unwatchable. It really is a layup line that. That's all it is. And I'd like to see something where maybe these guys are spirited. And I, I get it. You know, I'm, I'm the old school guy. When the all star game in baseball meant something, it doesn't mean anything anymore. They tried to do home field advantage for the World Series. That was silly. That didn't work. I, you know, if we're gonna do it, it's like the Pro Bowl. Nobody cares. You want to do a skills competition, great. People are gonna watch, great. But other than that, yeah, I, I'm open to ideas. Take a break here. In about 20 minutes, we'll talk about the ever changing world of college football. The playoffs, expanding the playoffs. This is gonna be a mess. Take a break. Back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Hey, Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis. And together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved, too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say. I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search Covino and Rich wherever you get your podcast. And of course, on social media, that's Covino and Rich.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Clayton English]

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[Jim Jackson]

The American west with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network. Hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores and brought to you by Velvet Buck, this podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and best selling author and Meat Eater founder Stephen Rinella.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I'll correct my kids now and then.

[Todd Fritz]

Where they'll say when cave people were here.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And I'll say it seems like the Ice age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves.

[Jim Jackson]

So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th where we'll delve into stories of the west and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Listen to the American west with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Best and worst of the weekend we'll get to. We'll give you hours and more of your phone calls as well. Red in Georgia Good morning Red. What's on your mind today?

[Todd Fritz]

Hey, what's up Dan? Thanks for taking the call. Dan, I remember the moment when you did the reporting on Pete Rose as a journalist and I know you don't do things like that no more investigate anymore like that. So what would we be if it weren't reporters like you that did y' all job at that time? You know Dan, just think about what Pete Rose legacy would be if it wasn't for you doing your job. And I'm asking you for the Brett Favre thing. Where is journalism now when the fans, when you give us everything in those moments when you're holding sports legends accountable and and the stories get out. And Dan, we know there's a bigger story behind the Brett Favre thing. Whether why haven't it came out? I don't know why, but I'm asking you.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Well, newspapers are dying. If you look at espn, journalism isn't big anymore to them. Used to be you had great journalists, you had Bob Lee, Jeremy Shop, they cared. Feels like the only place that's really doing investigative reporting has been Yahoo Sports. Seemed like they would do a report and then hand it to the NCAA and then somebody would end up on probation. But newspapers are dying. I just don't think it's important. People want hot takes. They want entertainment. And that's what our bosses or my former bosses are interested in. They're not interested in winning Peabody awards or Edward R. Murrow awards for journalism. Just not used to be. But not. And thanks for the phone call, Red. Let's see Roger in Ohio. Hi, Roger. What's on your mind today? Yeah, Dan, glad to get on. What I was calling about was my worst of the weekend was Indians dash guardians beat my Tigers the first three games. But on Sunday, Derek Skubal pitched a two header and his last pitch was complete game. And his last pitch was 103 miles an hour. And we was at the game and he was took an emotion at that last pitch. Well, he's a great pitcher, you know, Triple crown winner. And you know, the fact that Detroit, they haven't been good, but you know, now all of a sudden they have something. The last couple of years, you could kind of see this coming. And you know, you start to look at baseball here and we tend to focus on the Dodgers and the Yankees and rightfully so, but there are six teams playing 600 ball or better, winning 60% of their games. You have the Dodgers and the Yankees, Cubs, Phillies, Mets and Tigers, Cardinals and Giants already have at least 30 wins. So, you know, you have some stories here. It's a long season, but baseball, we tend to look at spring training and then we tend to look at the all Star game and then we look at postseason. But there are a lot of great stories going on in baseball and some teams playing some really good baseball at that. Russell in Vegas. Hi, Russ. What's on your mind today? I like it. Hey, first of all, the best of.

[Russell Wilson]

The weekend is having you guys come back.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Secondly, the best of the other best of the weekend is having Fritzie on the mic.

[Russell Wilson]

I love it.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I'd like to chime in about the.

[Russell Wilson]

NBA basketball All Star game. I'm not a big fan of the NBA All Star weekend, but if you can create a situation where it's the.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Us versus the world, I think that's.

[Russell Wilson]

A, that's an awesome, awesome scenario because.

[Ryan Seacrest]

These athletes have egos.

[Russell Wilson]

It's all about ego.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It's all about country pride. So I think that would be the best way to go.

[Russell Wilson]

I'll hang up here.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, I'm all for it. I've been all for it for the last couple of years. And I remember talking to David Stern, the former commissioner, and he, he wanted, he said at some point, I hope to get a level playing field with the players from outside the United States and the players inside the United States. Well, we're here, and it feels like we're moving a little bit further with those players from outside the United States. The importance of basketball, these countries, you know, the United States took it for granted. AAU basketball has ruined the game in some ways. It's far more structured in Europe. You're a professional at a younger age. You go to, you know, groups there that are teaching. You go to school for it. You know, that's kind of a job that you're given over there. I mean, Luca was 15. He's. He was a pro playing against grown men. So when he came into the NBA, yes, he was playing against better players, but he was playing against guys who were similar size with what he was already playing with. And that's really important. You know, the fact that Giannis came over and Joker came over and made themselves better, that's what's lost on people. They were, you know, Joker was second round. He was Taco Bell boy. And then, you know, even Giannis, we're like, oh, okay, he's known as the Greek freak. Okay. But he made himself better. Joker made himself better. Lucas got to make himself better. Shea Gilgis made himself better. You know, this isn't an accident that this was designed. Yes, Paulie.

[Marv Albert]

Yeah. And if you go back to the Luca draft, I think that's 2018, he's the third pick, but like you said, he's been playing four years of professional basketball. Deandre Ayton and Marvin Bagley III were one and done guys. They played four months of college basketball. It's. It's.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It's.

[Marv Albert]

I think the American college players are a bigger risk than international players these days. I think that's a fair stereotype.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Well, I'll use this analogy. It might not be fair, but you don't take. It's rare. Rare, rare, rare. When you take a quarterback who's only played. Started one year, you don't do that. There's. There's a number attached to this, and it's around 30 starts. That's. That's what scouts would like to tell you, that that's a sweet spot to be able to assess how good a player is. And if you've seen, you know, we've had guys who played one year, started one year. Zach Wilson, you know, he didn't get to 30 starts. He wasn't. Trey Lance had one magical year. You just have to be careful with those players. You want somebody who has a large sample size and you could truly assess how good they are. All right, Best Worst of the weekend Todd, I'll start with you.

[Seton O'Connor]

Best of the weekend the Knicks avoid falling deep into an 03 hole in the eastern Conference finals at the Pacers Sunday night, erasing that 20 point deficit. Big contribution from Cat, scoring 20 of his 24 points in the fourth quarter. Worst Rockies loss on Memorial Day against the Cubs means they've lost. They've won just three of their last 23 games. 9 and 45. 24 games back in the NL West. In seven of those losses this season, they've given up double digit runs. What is going on in Colorado C?

[Ryan Seacrest]

No Connor.

[Paul Pabst]

My worst of the weekend, Kyle Larson going for the double, which is finishing the Indy 500 and the Coca Cola 600 on the same day. Unfortunately, he crashed out of both races. It's going to be tough to do that. He's tried that before, I think, and there's nowhere in if he's going to try it again next year. But he was talking about. And I don't really understand this, but the window to be able to do it is so small because of weather and all these other things that you can't really control. That being able to do that or even just having the chance, the opportunity to do it is pretty rare. What a cool thing, though.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And then Tony Stewart, I think, did it twice. Being able to compete in both, I.

[Paul Pabst]

Think he might be the only person who's done it. I could also be completely wrong about that. My best of the weekend. Absolutely. Massive, massive news dropped this weekend. Bombshell. Gigantic.

[Russell Wilson]

Good.

[Paul Pabst]

Well, Bombshell has a negative connotation to it. This is great news.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Fantastic news.

[Paul Pabst]

Do you guys want to guess? Massive, massive news.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes, Paul.

[Marv Albert]

If Seaton is saying it's massive, it has to do with U.S. soccer in America and promotion, relegation.

[Paul Pabst]

No, this is something that I think Dan will be happy about, too. Oh, it's more in the entertainment genre. The Devil Wears Prada 2 Release Date May 1, 2026 let's go.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Miranda Priestley is back. All right.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Huge.

[Russell Wilson]

Huge.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Isn't there a band called Devil Wears Prada? There is. There is, yeah.

[Marv Albert]

Is Meryl Streep in it?

[Paul Pabst]

Rumors have that she's in it. Emily Blunt also in it. I haven't seen word on Anne Hathaway.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Just yet, but Adrian Grenier.

[Paul Pabst]

I think Stanley Tucci. I'm sorry, what did you say?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hopefully not. Wow.

[Paul Pabst]

It was kind of a weak spot in that movie. No offense. I think Stanley Tucci might Be reprising his role as well.

[Todd Fritz]

Great.

[Ryan Seacrest]

He's gotta be.

[Paul Pabst]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

This is great news for you. It really is.

[Paul Pabst]

It's great. It's the best news I got all weekend.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. Yeah. Marvin. Best and worst of the weekend.

[Todd Fritz]

Best of the weekend is the devil wears Prada 2 coming out. Stanley Tucci. So good. He said. You are whining. All right, sorry. Anyway, best of the weekend, the guy we don't talk about in the Thunder, really, Jalen Williams, had 34 points, 13 to 20.

[Ryan Seacrest]

He's got to change his name.

[Todd Fritz]

What do you mean?

[Ryan Seacrest]

He does.

[Todd Fritz]

What?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Because there. Doesn't he have a teammate named Jalen Williams?

[Todd Fritz]

The exact same name?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes, yes, that is the problem. He's just got to change it. I don't know, just adopt a new name.

[Todd Fritz]

Well, they call him J Dub on the Thunder. I don't know if that's going nationwide or anything, but that's what they call him in the locker room at least.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Wait, is there a J Dub and a J Will?

[Todd Fritz]

Yes, there is, as a matter of fact.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Okay.

[Todd Fritz]

All right. Worst of the weekend, our Indiana Pacers giving up a 20 point lead at home. Being up two zero.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Well, Carl Anthony Towns, best shooting big man ever.

[Todd Fritz]

Game changer.

[Ryan Seacrest]

He a. That's one of those legacy games. I don't know what it means. Bigger picture. But Carl Anthony Towns, like Brunson, picked up four fouls. It felt like in the first quarter. Like what? What just happened here? All right, Paulie. Best and worst.

[Marv Albert]

I did go back and look at the Indy 500, Coca Cola 600 double back in 01. Tony Stewart finished sixth at the Indy 500, took a plane down and finished third at the Coca Cola 600. Wow. That's nuts. Best of the weekend, Lions. Aiden Hutchinson, the great defensive end, cleared to return to football activities. Very fun player. And the other thing, we're almost at June and Aaron Judge is hitting.398. He's on pace for 55 homers. And his batting average, I mean, it's not.420 anymore, but it's in striking distance. And it's one thing we haven't seen in our lifetime since Tony Gwynn. Someone going for.400.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. George Brett, I think ended at.390, but. But it was important back then. Batting average isn't important anymore. It used to be, but the fact that he's hitting, you know, this kind of average at this point in the season in. In today's baseball climate of, you know, swing for the fences, I mean, that's remarkable. And for a guy that big, that's remarkable. But Rod Carew and Boggs and Tony Gwynn, that it mattered. You wanted 200 hits and you wanted about 350. I don't know if they even care about 200 hits anymore. I don't understand analytics. I just know if my guy gets on base. That sounds like it's a good thing, I think. But I don't know. I'd have to check with analytics. All right, we'll take a break. Where are we going with college football? Seems like a loaded question. It may be a question that can't be answered, but we will try. When we return after this, be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio appointment.

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[Jim Jackson]

The American west with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network. Hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores and brought to you by Velvet Buck, this podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and best selling author and Meat Eater founder Stephen Rinella.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I'll correct my kids now and then.

[Todd Fritz]

Where they'll say when cave people were here.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And I'll say, it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves.

[Jim Jackson]

So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th where we'll delve into stories of the west and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Listen to the American west with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Clayton English]

I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes, but there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Across the country, cops called this Taser the revolution.

[Clayton English]

But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.

[Jim Jackson]

Cops believed everything that Taser told them.

[Clayton English]

From Lava for good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolut Season 1 Taser Incorporated.

[Marv Albert]

I get right back there and it's bad.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It's really, really, really bad.

[Clayton English]

Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2 and 3 on May 21 and episodes 4, 5 and 6 on June 4. Ad free at Lavafor Good plus on Apple Podcasts.

[Todd Fritz]

I'm Clayton English.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I'm Greg Lodd.

[Todd Fritz]

And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Sir, we are back in a big way.

[Ryan Seacrest]

In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives.

[Todd Fritz]

This is kind of star studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It's just the compassionate choice to allow.

[Seton O'Connor]

Players all reasonable means to care for themselves.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this.

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Quote unquote drug fans.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Todd Fritz]

It makes it real.

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It really does. It makes it real.

[Todd Fritz]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

In 2020, a group of young women.

[Todd Fritz]

In a tidy suburb of New York.

[Ryan Seacrest]

City found themselves in an AI fueled nightmare. Someone was posting photos.

[Paul Pabst]

It was just me naked.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Well, not me, but me with someone else's body parts on my body parts.

[Dan Patrick]

That looked exactly like my own.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I wanted to throw up. I wanted to scream. It happened in Levittown, New York.

[Todd Fritz]

But reporting the series took us through the darkest corners of the Internet and to the front lines of a global battle against deepfake pornography.

[Ryan Seacrest]

This should be illegal, but what is this? This is a story about a technology that's moving faster than the law and.

[Todd Fritz]

About vigilantes trying to stem the tide. I'm Margie Murphy.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And I'm Olivia Carville.

[Todd Fritz]

This is Levittown, a new podcast from iHeart podcasts Bloomberg and Kaleidoscope.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Listen to Levittown on Bloomberg's Big Take podcast. Find it on the iHeartradio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. We've talked a lot about college football, the ever changing landscape of college football, where it is now, where it's going next year, where it's going after that. Ross Dellinger, this is his job. Yahoo Sports senior college football reporter joins us on the program. I bring us all up to speed, bring the audience up to speed of where we are right now with let's just start with the playoffs, the number of teams and any other ancillary items that fall in line with that.

[Russell Wilson]

Yeah, Dan. Well, we know this year we're going to have the same format pretty much, right? We're going to have 12 teams, same format. They're going to go to straight seating, which they decided last week. But it's starting in 2026 and beyond where the conversation is around 16 teams. And that does feel like something that's going to happen or at least we kind of know that maybe for sure is that we're going to the college football is going to have a 16 team playoff. The question is how do you decide? How do you determine those 16 teams? So the Big Ten has kind of swung its support behind a model that grants four automatic qualifiers to the Big Ten in the SEC each two automatic qualifiers to the ACC and Big 12, one for the Group of Six champion and then three at large. So that would be a multiple kind of AQ type of 16 team format, the SEC and I'm here at SEC spring meetings now in Destin. They'll talk about that this week. But they as well have been in support from predominantly in the athletic director and president room. They have been support of that that model too. But Greg Sankey did say yesterday, the SEC commissioner, that they they're not necessarily officially or formally have adopted any kind of support for a model, but that's the one they've been certainly discussing most. Now the flip side of this, obviously the Big 12 and ACC, they want more than two teams, right? So they're not for this 4,4221 type of model. And that's where things could get pretty interesting, Dan. There's a little bit of a, you might say a fight brewing between among the power conf.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, it's interesting though, the the four four with Big Ten and sec. Now are they capping that the Big Ten and SEC can only have that's a maximum of four teams in the playoffs.

[Russell Wilson]

No, they are, they are not capping. So the three at large that are still available would and in theory still be available for the fifth place, sixth place SEC or Big Ten team.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Wouldn't the SEC have had six teams to qualify last year? Does that sound about right? I'm, I think that's right.

[Russell Wilson]

There were 16. Yeah, there were, there were six in the top, in the top 16 or whatever where that, that would possibly have happened. And actually, you know, it's one thing Greg Sinker did say Yesterday because the two formats they're talking about most here I think are this 44221 and then a 5/11 format, which is 5 automatic qualifiers in 11 at large. And in that model, the SEC will have gotten as many as 16 teams into the or 6 teams into the playoff. If you did that model and went back for the, the last several years.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It might be crazy to say this, but I will. Who benefits the most out of all of those?

[Russell Wilson]

Well, the SEC and Big Ten, right. In this, in this 4, 4 model, certainly the SEC and Big Ten would be, would benefit. Now, if you look at outside of college athletics with the kind of the brewing fight going on in just the fight for control and more money, Dan, which everybody right now needs more money, right, because they have to pay athletes directly starting in about, about five weeks or so. So everybody's after money. So when you look at what's going on in college athletics, just the landscape in general right now, those that benefit outside of the agents and the athletes, right, that are getting paid and agents getting a percentage are the outside entities that we see may be trying to get into college athletics with money, which are private equity firms, private capital firms. And that's really been interesting to follow, Dan. Two weeks ago, the Big 12 and ACC, some of their presidents, met with the Smash Capital folks that have this super league proposal and they want to infuse $9 billion in the college athletics. And it's people like that that could benefit and come in and kind of fill a hole, a financial hole where so many schools have one.

[Ryan Seacrest]

We're talking to Ross Dellinger. He's at the SEC meetings. He's Yahoo Sports senior college football reporter. I've been saying for years it would be nice to have a schedule maker. So yeah, for, for college football and, and maybe we get to this 50 schools and then you have somebody who's going to have, you know, the AFC west and the AFC north and afc, you know, all of those, you know, we create and we, we treat it like it's the NFL. But I don't, I don't know if we get, I'd love relegation. Like, I, I think you could really dress this up and make this so incredibly huge. And, but I don't know if it just feels like there's too many moving parts and too many people that, that maybe it doesn't have. Is that, is that a pipe dream of in the next 10 years that we have maybe a 50 school format or 40 schools?

[Russell Wilson]

Well, and that's what, you know, a lot of these super league proposals that you've seen, much of it backed by private equity in private capital firms would design something like you're talking about, right. They think college athletics, specifically college football, is vastly undervalued. They need to consolidate all the media rights, the TV deal. They need to, to have more uniform scheduling among the conferences and they need to have more balance in the playoff and the regular season schedule. So I think a lot of folks agree on what you're talking about trying to get done. The problem is you have all these existing, right. TV contracts with individual leagues. And as you know, college sports has always been kind of fractured into conferences and it really prevents a lot of this from happening and it prevents the entity in general of reaping its full value. A lot of people would say, but eventually, Dan, we'll get there. And I think it's coming. I think it's around the corner, I would say five to seven years. We're going to get to a point where this happens because between the years 2030 and 2032, there's a lot of things that will happen. Contracts that come up, Dan, that could really trigger a lot of what we're talking about here. The CFP contract comes up with ESPN, the NCAA basketball tournament contract comes up. The Big 12 and Big 10 TV contracts as well come up. We could see a. More of a consolidation of brands there and more of a centralized kind of leadership in college athletics. And I think it's coming now.

[Ryan Seacrest]

We have at nil, but we also have collectibles and we have salary cap. Right? That's right.

[Russell Wilson]

There's a lot going on with, yeah, collectors. Right. The compensation. Right. We're, we've been in the NIL era the past four years where basically boosters are, are paying athletes for quote, nil, when really it's, it is just a salary. And now we're about to get into real salaries. Right. Schools on July 1st are going to be able to pay directly players basically salaries they don't call it that, of course, because they don't want them to be employees. But it basically is a salary that schools will begin paying. But in order to do all that, the House settlement case needs to be approved by the judge. In here we are right. Probably five weeks before it's supposed to be implemented. All this is supposed to be implemented and the judge has not yet ruled on whether to deny or approve the settlement.

[Ryan Seacrest]

How's it going over with usc? Looks like they're going to end the rivalry with Notre Dame. I don't know if it's spoken about in SEC circles, but we're losing rivalry games here.

[Russell Wilson]

We are. We are losing rivalry games and it's, it's probably one of the more sad things that has happened in college athletics the last few years with conference realignment. Right. Is the destruction of these, these rivalry games. Oklahoma State. Oklahoma, right. Is another one that you could see go away. It's, it is too bad I haven't heard it really we talked much about here. But I'll say this. If the playoff format gets. Playoff format gets finalized as a 4, 4, 2 2, where you have four out of my qualifiers for a Big Ten in the SEC, I think you'll see USC still play that game. I think the CFP format is going to be a big piece in a lot of regular season non conference scheduling decisions.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Great to talk to you. And I, I, it feels like if Lincoln Riley doesn't win this Notre Dame game coming up this October, it feels like that that's, this is a make or break year for him at usc.

[Russell Wilson]

It feels like that, Dan. But you got to remember that buyout of his. I think it's over $80 million. At a time when everybody is so stressed, financially stressed with paying athletes, it is tough to see USC paying 80 million plus dollars to fire him. But you never know. Right.

[Ryan Seacrest]

What are your thoughts, hopes, perspective for North Carolina with Bill Belichick this upcoming season?

[Russell Wilson]

Wow. Yeah. Certainly without all the off the field stuff going on in college athletics. That would be the big storyline. It has still been a big storyline this year. You know, you look at their schedule, Dan, and it's, it's, it's pretty good. It's pretty smooth. You could see them going 8 and 4 or something like that. I think that would be, I think that would be a success year one there. But it's going to be certainly interesting to watch. It's been a quite an interesting off season there in Chapel Hill.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, you got your Carolina blue polo shirt on there.

[Russell Wilson]

There you go.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. Thank you, Ross. We appreciate your time. Ross Dellinger, Yahoo Sports senior college football reporter. Yeah, nobody's talking about North Carolina if they're going to be any good this year. It's like it's all the drama off the field with Bill and his girlfriend. We'll talk to Jim Jackson. We'll talk some hoops. Coming up. Final hour on this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan at Stanpatrick show your gut microbiome. And those healthy bacteria can actually have positive effects. Your mental health, your immunity, your risk of cancer, almost any disease under the sun.

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