Hour 2 – NBA Summer League, Steve Young

Summary

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The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 2: NBA Summer League, Golf Stories, and a Conversation with Steve Young

Date: July 10, 2026
Podcast: The Dan Patrick Show
Host: Dan Patrick
Guests: Steve Young (Hall of Fame Quarterback), John Miller (CEO, American Century Investments)
Location: Lake Tahoe (On-site at American Century Championship)

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Episode Overview

This lively episode of The Dan Patrick Show blends sports analysis, entertaining personal anecdotes, and star-studded conversations live from Lake Tahoe, where the annual American Century Championship celebrity golf tournament is underway. Hour 2 centers on:

• Dan’s comedic retelling of a grueling bike trek with his wife,
• Insights and warnings about NBA Summer League stardom,
• A reflective, candid, and humorous sit-down with Hall of Famer Steve Young,
• Discussion of the unique celebrity culture and charitable impact at Lake Tahoe, with insights from John Miller,
• Playful banter about golf, athletic skill, and the challenges of transitioning between sports.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Dan Patrick’s Bike Adventure & Barbecue Banter

Timestamps: [02:05]–[10:01]

• Barbecue Menu: The show kicks off with the behind-the-scenes crew discussing their on-site eating options (smoked chicken, prime rib, and “Texas Twinkies”).
  • “What is the Texas Twinkie?” —Dylan [02:47]
  • “It’s almost like a jalapeno popper wrapped in bacon.” —Dylan [02:49]
• Dan’s Legendary Bike Trip: Dan delivers a trademark humor-filled story about biking 500 miles from Atlanta to New Orleans with his wife, touching on everything from Tour de France gear to scary pit bull encounters, marital negotiations, and vacation regrets.
  • “When you’re in love…they can talk you into anything.” —Dan Patrick [04:32]
  • “I remember I said to my wife, I will not get on that bike ever again.” —Dan Patrick [05:44]
  • “I think we saw Spanish Moss for about 11 seconds, the whole payoff.” —Dan Patrick [08:50]

2. NBA Summer League: The Hype and the Hype Traps

Timestamps: [10:04]–[12:54]

• Highlighting Promising Young Talent: Dan discusses rookies AJ Debanta and Darren Peterson, their collegiate rivalry, and their recent Summer League duel (27 and 24 points, respectively).
  • “These two are going to be interlocked the rest of their careers…number one and two ranked players…” —Dan Patrick [10:22]
• Summer League Cautionary Tales: Dan warns of the fleeting nature of Summer League success, citing Glenn Rice Jr., Denzel Valentine, and Josh Selby as MVPs who faded in the NBA.
  • “Glenn Rice Jr. … played 16 regular season games before his career ended.” —Dan Patrick [10:54]
  • “Who can forget Josh Selby…Co-MVP with Dame Lillard. Their careers went in different directions.” —Dan Patrick [11:05]

3. Golf, Celebrities, and Lake Tahoe Vibes

Timestamps: [12:54]–[18:27]

• Set Location & Fan Atmosphere: The show is broadcasting from a scenic Lake Tahoe set, with commentary on the risk of golf balls from the celebrity driving range and how celebrities like Steph Curry and Jason Kelce are fan favorites.
  • “Steph Curry is becoming the ambassador of this event.” —Paulie [12:54]
• Event Logistics: Amusing stories on gallery etiquette (“Back up!”), errant shots, and pro-am participation.

4. Steve Young Joins: Golf Struggles and Athletic Realities

Timestamps: [19:19]–[38:00]

A. Golf: The Great Equalizer for Superstars

• Righty vs. Lefty: Steve Young discusses his (right-handed) golf struggles despite being a left-handed QB, thanks to having only righty clubs as a kid.
  • “My wife said, ‘You suck so bad, why not play lefty?’” —Steve Young [20:09]
• Golfing Anxiety: Young compares the mental tension of golf versus quarterbacking:
  • “Play quarterback is…every inch of yourself to do it and do it well…Golf, when you’re incompetent, is really hard.” —Steve Young [21:48]
  • “If you’re not competent [in golf], your hands go numb.” —Steve Young [22:52]
• Translating Skills: Dan probes why great athleticism doesn't always transfer; Young empathizes, noting that learning golf as a kid is key.
  • “Hand-eye coordination transfers…but if you pick up a club as a college kid…you just rip at it, and it’s never golf.” —Steve Young [24:57]
• Playful Comparisons: Dan needles Young about worse golfers, even comparing him with Charles Barkley and Larry David.
• Memorable Moment:
  • “I told her, if I don’t finish top 50, I’m going lefty.” —Steve Young [20:34]

B. Athlete Crossovers and Historical Perspective

• Best Niners Basketball Player: Young says Terrell Owens was the best hoops player among Niners, but highlights Jerry Rice’s athletic subtlety and uniqueness.
  • “Jerry could change direction faster than any human I ever saw.” —Steve Young [26:47]
  • “The greatest athletes in the world make it look easy.” —Steve Young [27:54]

C. Avoiding “Best Ever” Debates

• Young respects all-time greats, refusing to pick sides in bar arguments–especially with QBs like Dan Marino:
  • “I refuse to get into conversations that don’t evoke appreciation of greatness.” —Steve Young [29:02]
  • Recounts being awed by Marino as a high schooler:
    “I spent the next four years trying to throw it like Dan Marino…” [29:47]

D. The Evolution of the Mobile Quarterback

• Standing on Shoulders: Young reflects on being a lefty, a scrambler, and a pioneer in an era that undervalued mobile quarterbacks, and finds “kinship” with modern QBs like Michael Vick and Lamar Jackson.
  • “Back in the 80s and 90s…scrambler was like a dirty word…Now, today’s game is that game.” —Steve Young [30:10]
  • “If they stand on my shoulders, I’m looking up in appreciation of what they do.” —Steve Young [31:43]
• Discusses biases in QB selection and the challenge of balancing pocket skills with running.

E. On Leadership and the Post-Super Bowl “Hangover”

• Advice for Teams Trying to Repeat: Young warns that “hubris” and loss of “grit” are big hurdles post-championship.
  • “It changes you…the problem is you say [‘let’s get back to work’] but it’s hard to get out of the blood. You won a Super Bowl.” —Steve Young [35:03]
  • “You gotta be tough. You gotta be gritty. If you win a Super Bowl, a lot of times you lose that grit, and that’s why things go south.” —Steve Young [36:19]

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5. Celebrity Golf Tournament and Event Culture

Timestamps: [38:00]–[46:23]

• Steph Curry’s Star Power: Dan and John Miller (CEO, American Century Investments) discuss playing with Steph Curry and his huge gallery.
  • “He’s so smooth and chill and Zen…like, he watches the game in slow motion.”—John Miller [39:03]
• Tournament Origins & Growth: Miller reflects on the event’s beginnings (handing out free tickets in downtown Lake Tahoe), grassroots fan-building, and how now the event sells out.
  • “People tunneling underneath the fence…with shovels. We sell out now…” —John Miller [40:41]
• Celebrity “White Whales”: Stories about getting Larry David to attend and his classic Curb Your Enthusiasm–style mishaps.
  • “We watched [Larry David] for 30 minutes…he cannot find his clubs.” —Dan Patrick [42:10]
• Observations on Athlete-Golfers and Locker Room Culture: Miller and Dan discuss the charity aspects, hockey players participating, and the social components of the weekend.
• Charity Impact: Over $2.2 billion donated to medical research and an additional $8 million for local/national charities—highlighting the event’s substantial philanthropic contributions.
  • “We direct over 40% of our profits each and every year to medical research…It’s been about $2.2 billion…We’ve raised a little bit over $8 million for local charities…” —John Miller [45:00]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dan on athletic marriage:
  “When you’re in love…they can talk you into anything.” [04:32]
• Steve Young on golf humility:
  “You suck so bad, why not play lefty?” —Wife to Steve Young [20:09]
• On mobile QBs:
  “Back in the 80s and 90s…scrambler was a dirty word. Now, today’s game is that game.” —Steve Young [30:10]
• On Jerry Rice:
  “He was smooth. But you can’t be smooth and great unless you’re like, great.” —Steve Young [27:36]
• Steve Young’s advice to Super Bowl winners:
  “A lot of times you lose that grit, and that’s why things go south.” [36:19]
• On the tournament’s charitable spirit:
  “We direct over 40% of our profits each and every year to medical research… about $2.2 billion…” —John Miller [45:00]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• [02:05] – Scenic Lake Tahoe setup, food discussion, Dan’s bike trip story
• [10:04] – NBA Summer League analysis, Summer League cautionary tales
• [12:54] – Celebrity golf and on-site event atmosphere
• [19:19] – Steve Young joins: golf humility, athletic skill translation
• [24:57] – Athlete cross-training struggles, Jerry Rice, avoiding “best ever” debates
• [30:10] – Evolution of the mobile QB, Steve’s kinship with Vick/Lamar
• [35:03] – Super Bowl “hangover” and leadership
• [38:00] – John Miller on Steph Curry, tournament origins
• [42:10] – Larry David’s golf misadventures
• [45:00] – Charity contributions, tournament impact

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Episode Tone & Style

The tone throughout is relaxed, conversational, and comedic—blending playful ribbing, reflective sports analysis, and genuine athlete insight. Dan’s rapport with Steve Young is especially jovial and candid, even as he pokes fun at Young’s golf game. Memorable anecdotes, humility, and appreciation for the broad spectrum of athletic talent permeate the episode.

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For those who missed the episode:
You’ll walk away with a sense of the camaraderie, humility, and humor that binds great athletes, along with both caution and excitement about up-and-coming sports stars. Plus, you’ll enjoy inside glimpses of the unique celebrity culture and charitable spirit at one of sports’ most intriguing summer gatherings.

Transcript

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You're the only person I know that

[Steve Young]

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[Dan Patrick]

You know, I did an interview and

[Steve Young]

they're like, have you heard about this Jonas Brothers thing?

[John Miller]

And they're like, what did you think of it?

[Dan Patrick]

I was like, well, I mean, it's reciprocal.

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We talk about Kevin's confession, Michael's reaction,

[Steve Young]

and a whole lot more.

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Our conversation with Michael Buble is out now. Listen to. Hey, join us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your PODC podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio American Century. And we want to thank them. They've been great Host gave us a great vantage point here with that's not CGI behind me. That is the way it looks every morning here. Lake Tahoe. The mountains don't look real. That water looks really, really cold. And it is from sources close to me. Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

The backdrop looks like a Bob Ross painting.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Sam J.]

Yeah. All right.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm fine with that. To meet. Give us the menu, Dylan.

[Dylan]

Yeah. Then we're having barbecue today. So we got smoked chicken, green chili dip.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Dylan]

Party ribs, your old nickname, Texas Twinkies. And smoked prime rib.

[Dan Patrick]

What is the Texas Twinkie?

[Dylan]

I think it's almost like a jalapeno popper wrapped in bacon.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

Little cream cheese.

[Dylan]

Okay.

[Dan Patrick]

We had Oreos yesterday wrapped in bacon.

[Steve Young]

That was insane. I didn't think I was going to like it.

[Marvin]

I'm like, the Oreo is fine by itself with bacon. But you know what? I'm going to look for that in

[Steve Young]

the supermarket, see if they got bacon Oreos.

[Dylan]

Okay.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. So the first five that you had or the second five, what were they

[John Miller]

would have been right around the seventh or eighth one.

[Dan Patrick]

I realized I really like the stat of the day. Brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the program. Get ready for the Tour de France. Bike shorts. You know, I had bike shorts.

[Paulie]

Had.

[Dan Patrick]

I did. Well, I don't wear them anymore. But the Tour de France on Peacock action gets underway tomorrow.

[Paulie]

You're not getting off this easy.

[Dan Patrick]

You can see your peacock. 10am Eastern only on Peacock. This is when I did the bike trip from Atlanta to New Orleans with my wife. I got the whole gear. I got the whole gear. I was dance Armstrong. Lance Armstrong dancing. You see what I did with that, Don? Thank you. Thank you. But my wife goes, you got to get bike shorts. I said, why don't they just make the seat comfortable? How about that? Like, I don't need to ride the bike that they ride in the Tour de France. But my wife is like, you need. You're really going to need bike shorts. I said, man, this is revealing here. She goes, oh, nobody's going to be noticing. I said, wait a minute. What are you saying about me? Wow. Okay. Thanks, hon. Yeah.

[Paulie]

Paulie, a couple follow ups here. Dan, did you also have the tight shirt to go with the tight shoe?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, you have to. Yes, you do.

[Paulie]

How about the clip in shoes?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, I did. Yes, I did.

[Paulie]

I. I need a picture.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow.

[Paulie]

The I team's on it.

[Dan Patrick]

I think I weighed like 150 pounds, but okay. It's 500 miles from Atlanta to New Orleans. And this is where, you know, you get talked in when you're in love. They can talk you into anything. And my wife goes, God, wouldn't it be great if we took a bike trip? And I go, okay, where? Well, how about New Orleans? I go, how far is New Orleans? I think it's five. You know, when she says, I think it's 500 miles, I go, 500? She goes, yeah, like the Spanish moss. We'll see. You know, all those great homes in Mississippi and New Orleans is going to be great. And I go, wait a minute, 500 miles? I have six days. We're going to be doing what, 90 miles a day? And she goes, yeah, you know, give or take. And I go, that doesn't sound like a vacation. Yeah, Marvin, you're exaggerating.

[Marvin]

From Atlanta to New Orleans is 469 miles.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, okay, all right, you got me. It felt like 500 miles. 500 miles. Yeah. I just didn't walk 500 miles. I rode 500 miles. We get to New Orleans and I remember I said to my wife, I will not get on that bike ever again. She had to pack up the bike and then we took a train back to Atlanta. Yes, Dylan.

[Dylan]

Yeah, I don't want to do that drive, let alone bike there.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, we were in shorter Alabama, and I remember that there was a shortcut that would cut off 24 miles, but we had to go on the highway. So, you know, like this is like three or three lane highway, you know, semis going by and you'll just. I'm pedaling as fast as I can because we were worried that we could get like 20 miles in and then they would make us go back to square one and make us take the bike route.

[Dylan]

Yeah, Dill, there's nothing that says romance like a nice hot bike ride on the highway in Alabama.

[Dan Patrick]

And I, I loved her. In the morning I would talk to her. I didn't talk to her during the entire afternoon. And then later on, I, I would start to have a conversation with her again. We would, we would go into these towns. One night we stayed at a hotel where it was prom night, so it was loud and late on prom night and everybody was having a good time but us. And I remember getting a bag of ice, you know, when you go into those convenience stores and I put the bag of ice on my knees just to cool them off.

[Paulie]

Like Dr. J in the 70s.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. When Dr. J used to dominate and then he put ice on his knees. That was kind of how I felt with the Tour to dance. Yes. Yes.

[Paulie]

Paul, you missed your electric bike window. Those things seem. That. That fixes everything.

[Dan Patrick]

No, my wife would not allow that. We were pedaling. We were pedaling, and you just look, you know, you're a mess. I mean, there's nothing glamorous about, you know, these bike trips. Unless you go to France, where they will have a van. You put your bike in the van, they take you out to an area. You will ride 15 miles, 20 miles. They pick up the bike and then take you back to your luxury hotel. And I said to my wife, I'll do that. Like, my brother went to the Dolomites. He went to Japan. Like, he went to all these exotic places, but he's a madman on a bike. I never got on that bike again. It's still in my garage. It's hanging up. I retired that bike. It's up in the. In the rafters. They raised my bike into the rafters. Yes still, or yes, Marvin, have you

[Marvin]

ever held that over your wife's head? Like, say you didn't want to do something? Oh, come on. I rode a bike from Atlanta to New Orleans for you.

[Dan Patrick]

I think I did for a little while. And then she told me to grow up, and I said, okay.

[Marvin]

Did she hit you with the. I gave birth to four kids.

[Dan Patrick]

No, she. She wouldn't do that. She. Yeah, she could, but she didn't. Yes, Dylan, that's also.

[Dylan]

Like, this is not a leisurely bike trip. Like, you're doing 90 miles a day. That's. That sucks, honestly.

[Dan Patrick]

And I think we saw Spanish Moss for about 11 seconds, the whole payoff. We went through Mississippi, and I remember I'm on the bike, and all of a sudden I see this pit bull, and it's out of the house, and he is coming hard. And then there's a fence, and I go, oh, phew. Okay. Well, the fence doesn't go all the way around the yard. It's just in the front. So I'm going, what kind of fence is that for a pit bull? He goes to the side, and my wife said, don't pedal. So I'm just coasting. I take out the bike pump, because I'm thinking, now he's right at my ankle. If I pedal, you know, he's got me. And so I just, you know, kind of gliding, holding that bike pump, because I'm thinking, I'm gonna have to smack this guy. And then all of a sudden, we got to a certain point where he must have known he can't go past that. And then he retreated. I still see the teeth on that guy. He wanted a piece of me.

[Marvin]

PTSD. Oh,

[Dan Patrick]

okay. France beat Morocco 2 nil. I did watch some summer league. Of course I did. AJ Debanta and Darren Peterson. This was fun. I now I get caught up in summer league play. You know when you go to bed at like 8:30, you know when you're on the road, you're on the west coast, you're out here and this was prime time, so I'm able to watch. Debancer goes for 27, Peterson has 24. And these two are going to be interlocked the rest of their careers because they played each other in high school. They combined for 108 points in a game. They come into college as the number one and number two ranked players. They competed with each other in the Big 12. They were the first and second picks in the NBA draft and then last night they went at it again. But it was fun to watch. But I will caution you because Glenn Rice Jr. In 2014, the MVP of the Summer League, he played 16 regular season games before his career ended. Denzel Valentine of the Bulls clutch butter buzzer beaters in the summer league. In 2016 he fell out of the NBA rotation. And who can forget Josh Selby of The Grizzlies Co MVP 2012 he was Co MVP with Dame Lillard. Their careers went in different directions but he played 38 NBA games over two seasons. We will talk to Austin Reeves, the Lakers guard a little bit later on and we hope Steve Young will stop by before his round here today. 877three DP show. Good morning if you're watching on Peacock. Thank you for downloading the app. And once again the big German, his entire crew going on the road setting all of this up and here early here often. And thank you again to all the people that made this possible because well, you can't screw up the scenery here Lake Tahoe. But they gave us a beautiful set and we're right off the driving range and I am trusting these celebrities that nobody's going to take a shot in here unless they do it on purpose. Yes. Dylan?

[Dylan]

Yeah. Are we, are we incident free so far this week? Has anyone been hit?

[Dan Patrick]

No. But why would you do that? I can knock on, knock on Ted Todd's head. We've had a couple that have been over here by the back part of the stage but other than that everything's good. And you know, not all the people out here are good golfers and the gallery always does this. When I played at pebble beach, the Pro Am, you would say, hey, back up. And they laugh because they think, well, there, you're just joking. I'm like, I'm not joking. Please back up. And then I hit a stray into the crowd, and all of a sudden everybody started backing up when I was hitting.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paulie, it does feel like Steph Curry is becoming the ambassador of this event. He's running around with the fans. Some kid gave him a sombrero and he, he teed off with it on and he shot a couple baskets yesterday for the fans. He's.

[Dan Patrick]

He's not quite Bill Murray.

[Paulie]

No. In the early stages of this being his thing.

[Dan Patrick]

I can't see him being a crazy, wacky guy, but I, you know, he's accommodating because there's so many warrior fans here. And if you're looking at the. Jason Kelce is the most popular player here, I think, by far because, okay, guys know him because he's a Hall of Famer, but there's little girls out here known because he's on a podcast with his brother and there is that Steve Young coming by. Does that look like Steve Young back

[Marvin]

the greatest QB ever yesterday.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Oh, that's right, Niner fan. Okay, let me see. Anything else I need to mention here? How about I take a break? We'll leave a little more time for Steve Young to join us and we'll get to phone calls as well. I know that you know, it's busy out here, so we'll, we'll try to accommodate as well. Update the poll results as well. We're back after this with the hall of Famer Steve Young. Thanks for listening to the Dan Patrick show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning, 9 to noon Eastern or 6 to 9 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for the Dan Patrick [e-mail] or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR.

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[Sam J.]

Hey, what's up, y'?

[Dan Patrick]

All?

[Sam J.]

It's your girl, Sam J.

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[Steve Young]

Okay.

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[Sam J.]

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[Hoda Kotb]

Olympic champ Shawn Johnson revealed why she had no choice but to be a gymnast.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Dan Patrick]

You changed outfits.

[Marvin]

I did. Trying to be, you know, dressed like a good golfer. It's the most important thing. Dylan told me that.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, so there's a Payne Stewart feel. I'm pained watching you in outfit.

[Marvin]

This is Prince Stewart.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, okay. All right. Yes.

[Paulie]

Paulie, I am so jealous of that outfit. If I play golf, I dress just like that.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. The pants look like a what a jockey would wear.

[Marvin]

This is kind of that North Carolina.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, Carolina. Blue on a blue. Okay.

[Marvin]

So I wish I want to go to Foot Locker right now and buy some light blue Jordans, but everything else, it's working.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Dylan, you got to be jealous of that outfit.

[Dylan]

You know me then, I own multiple pairs of argyle pants.

[Dan Patrick]

Look good, by the way. In case you're wondering, the LA Olympics start two years from today. Ironically, the men's soccer will be in New York, Columbus, Nashville and St. Louis. He is a three time Super bowl champ, hall of Famer, and I think the third one of the three greatest left handed quarterbacks from the state of Connecticut. As we make way for the two time NFL mvp. Steve Young is joining us on the program again. Yeah, looking, looking official, looking.

[Steve Young]

Leave anybody out.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, gonna give Fritzi some dab. Dylan gets dab. That's nice. All class. That's what Steve Young is. He's. He's all class.

[Steve Young]

Oh, yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

And I didn't realize this, but I'm looking out Realize it.

[John Miller]

Did you realize.

[Dan Patrick]

I didn't realize that you golf right handed?

[Steve Young]

So it's a. It's a dilemma. I think it was last year. My wife said, you suck so bad, you don't do anything else righty in your whole life. Nothing. Why don't you just play lefty? Because when I might. When I was a kid, my dad, Mean Streets of Greenwich, Connecticut, he had righty clubs. And that's why I picked up and played ever since. And so she says, if I don't finish in the top 50, I'm going lefty.

[Dan Patrick]

You're gonna change.

[Steve Young]

I'm changing lefty. I told her. I said, look, I'm not trying to be a. I'm not a pro. It's not my. Like, I scratch it around. It's for fun, you know? But she's.

[Dan Patrick]

Were you on the golf team in high school? In Greenwich?

[Steve Young]

I never put. I didn't play golf in Greenwich. I caddied. Why didn't I play golf? It's insane.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know. In Greenwich.

[Steve Young]

In Greenwich, I played football, basketball, and baseball because there's mean streets. There are mean streets in Greenwich. You just haven't been there the other

[Dan Patrick]

side of the tracks, right? Have you been two hands? Go away. What? Paulie.

[Paulie]

My sister lives in Greenwich, Steve. And there's cops with white gloves directing traffic. And you know I'm telling the truth.

[Sam J.]

That's.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, yes, yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

Mean streets are just mean people on those streets.

[Steve Young]

No, this mean street.

[Dan Patrick]

Have you been to the Boys and Girls Club of Greenwich? I grew up there, okay?

[Steve Young]

That's where I learned to swim. In fact, I was on the swim team for three days. I wouldn't open my eyes on.

[Marvin]

I wouldn't.

[Steve Young]

I wouldn't open my eyes underwater. And I kept ramming. I kept ramming the buoy, you know, and they're like, bro, you gotta open your eyes or else you can't make. Like, maybe you try something else.

[Dan Patrick]

Was that your first concussion that you had? What is more mental, though, playing golf or being quarterback?

[Steve Young]

Quarterback is. Look, I went to law school. I had to memorize a bunch of stuff to go to law school. Memorization and the data retention. And then that's just before you get on the field, let alone everyone trying to kill you. I mean, play quarterback is. It took every inch of yourself to do it and do it. Well, golf, I mean, it's hard, you know, when you. When you're incompetent. It's really hard. But. But once I. You know, you see the guys that Are really good at it. Being specifically great at it, I think is really hard. Being decent at it, I think is relatively.

[Dan Patrick]

But the athleticism with golf, hand, eye coordination, well, it's.

[Steve Young]

It's. It's counterintuitive, to be honest with you. What I've been learning this last year, I did. Look, my wife put the thread on me, so I was like, okay, I'm gonna go get some lessons. I'm gonna deconstruct my whole swing, which is half the problem now. But I now realize when you're. When you're on plane and. And everything's kind of. The game can feel easy if you do it right.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Steve Young]

It's just hard to do it right.

[Dan Patrick]

But when you compress the ball for the first time and you're like, oh, that's how it sounds.

[Steve Young]

That is beautiful. But then I think that's what's funny about up here. And everyone will tell you once, because if you don't compete in golf very often and you show up here and all of a sudden, you know, you got to put everything out. Like, who was I talking to? DeMarcus Ware's like, I didn't feel my hands for, like, five holes. You know, here's a guy. People say, well, you play professional football. 50, 80,000 people. You know, college. What's the problem? It's like, because if you had to go on stage and sing in front of 50,000 people, you're incompetent in doing that. You'd be pretty nervous. And it's the same thing here. Like, if you're not. If you're not competent, it's Your hands go numb.

[Dan Patrick]

Is it? I don't. People talk about. Athletes talk about it like, you can have good nervous. Like, did you. Did you ever.

[Steve Young]

I'll call it competent nervous.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Steve Young]

Right. If you're really good at something and now you got to go perform it, you get the creative tension going. You got. It feels. It feels like I. I'm ready to do it. If you're incompetent. Tension, That's a whole other problem.

[Dan Patrick]

Are you incompetent out here?

[Steve Young]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

So the tension is different.

[Steve Young]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Steve Young]

Yeah. Are you guys not listening?

[Dan Patrick]

No, I'm listening. I wanted. I wanted you to read.

[Steve Young]

You guys up there typing away. I don't know what's going on.

[Dan Patrick]

I wanted you to. Right there.

[Steve Young]

He popped his head up like, oh, who is it?

[Dan Patrick]

Who's the guest?

[Steve Young]

I don't even know what's going on.

[Dan Patrick]

I wanted you to reinforce that you're incompetent. That's all. I wanted further clarification of it. That's all. Yes.

[Paulie]

Paulie, I think what people like us don't understand, we are poor athletes and we would be poor golfers. You are an all time great, all purpose athlete and golf is frustrating for you. That's why it confuses people like us.

[Steve Young]

That's fair. And I. And I can understand that. And there's a lot of.

[Dan Patrick]

But he was only good at football.

[Paulie]

But really good at football.

[Steve Young]

What I'm saying is, you know, there's a lot of. There's a lot of pro ams I play in and like, member whatever, you know, and. And I can always. I can almost hear them thinking it like, you're a great athlete. What's.

[Dan Patrick]

What, what's good?

[Steve Young]

Why doesn't it. So I understand. It's just hard.

[Dan Patrick]

It doesn't transfer.

[Steve Young]

It doesn't transfer. Look, I think a hand. Eye coordination transfers and like. But if you pick up a club as a college kid and swing it, like, you have to learn golf as a kid because then you can't control the club and you learn to swing it, and that's golf. And if you grab it as a college kid, what's the first thing you do? You just. You just rip at it. And it's never golf. You have to recreate it.

[Dan Patrick]

But does it bother you that you're a hall of fame quarterback, but then you see Ryan Fitzpatrick, who's not. But he's a better golfer than you.

[Steve Young]

It's okay, Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Steve Young]

I don't know where you're going with this. I'm okay with great golf. I love golf. I love fiddling with golf. I'm gonna get better at it. I might be lefty soon, but, you know, it's. It's a passion I love. I love it. And I'm okay if people are great at it. I'm. I'm okay.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Steve Young]

He says, I know you want to go further on this. I just, like, no, no, no.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm just.

[Steve Young]

I think we're on a dead horse kind of thing.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm just trying to get in your head and understand what makes you.

[Steve Young]

I appreciate the comment because I. You run into people like, look, bro, she transfer everywhere. But I, you know, we used to play the 49ers. Used to have a basketball game. A team in the offseason season would go raise money in high schools and we'd go play and there's some guys that would play. And you're like, wait, you're an amazing football player, but Bro. Like this. Ramming balls off the backboard and like, what? So it's the same kind of feeling. I think we're like, wait a second. But I think basketball should translate, right? Baseball should translate. Golf is a little bit odd.

[Dan Patrick]

Who is the best player on the Niners at playing basketball?

[Steve Young]

Terrell Owens was.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. He strikes me as he wants to let everybody know that he could play.

[Steve Young]

He didn't really care whether he wants to or not.

[Dan Patrick]

He was gonna do it. He. Where's he rank among athletes that you played with?

[Steve Young]

Well, Jerry was a unique, fascinating athlete that just incomplete.

[Dan Patrick]

But he wasn't fast.

[Steve Young]

But it wasn't. But that's what I mean, it was. He was just incredibly hard to define. He did things like he never left his feet. He caught everything and kept running. Shoestring catches. He would never be to the ground. He'd run by everybody. You're like, wait, wait. Why is that? He elevated when it was like he could do everything in a really unique, kind of subtle way that snuck on everybody and they never really got a handle on Jerry. Jerry was always open, and he could change direction. That's the other thing. Jerry could change direction faster than any human that I ever saw. And that full speed change of direction is a talent as well. Right.

[Dan Patrick]

And you bring up a great point that you're right. I don't remember Jerry Rice ever hap, you know, jumping high, getting off his, like, putting himself in a vulnerable position.

[Steve Young]

He was all like, he was smooth. Yes, he was smooth and. But he was. But you can't be smooth and great unless you're like, great. Like you can like.

[Hoda Kotb]

It's.

[Steve Young]

In fact, in many ways, the greatest athletes in the world make it look easy. Scotty Scheffler looks like, bro. Golf is hard.

[Dan Patrick]

By the way, he just missed the cut at the Scottish Open also.

[Steve Young]

Golf is hard.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Steve Young]

But the greatest athletes make it look easy. And I think that's what's happening with. With Jerry. He made it look easy when it's not.

[Dan Patrick]

But Moss might be as good athlete

[Steve Young]

who's ever played uniquely different. Right. The speed, the length. I mean, he was incredibly special as well. That's what I love about each athlete, is they have unique qualities that are supreme or premier, and you see different ones and different guys. And I appreciate. That's why I hate the bar fights of, like, who's better? Who's the great? Like, these are, like, these are special, otherworldly athletes.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. But we need. You need. This is for us.

[Steve Young]

All right, well, go, go then. Go to the bar and fight. I'm good.

[Dan Patrick]

No, but you don't want to be part of the conversation because you're one of the pieces in the conversation.

[Steve Young]

Well, I also formerly believe, living it out, that I refuse to not honor the unique gifts, supreme gifts that the guys I played with had to kind of start choosing sides.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but okay. That you're a competitor. If I say, do you feel like you're better than Dan Marino?

[Steve Young]

Well, okay. So anyone who answers that question needs to just stand back and just go, wait a second. I am not going to do anything that like I watched Dan Marino. I was a, I was a recruit at army for my senior year in high school. I went up to watch Pitt play army and I was going to go to the, I was going to be a cadet. I don't, I'm not, I guess I wasn't. But I was there for the weekend and they played pit and I remember Dan Reno was a freshman quarterback. He dropped back and threw a laser like 30 yards and it actually came right at me. And I sit on the sidelines a little senior, you know, in high school,

[Dan Patrick]

I'm like, I can't do this.

[Steve Young]

Well, I spent the next four years trying to throw it like, damn, Reno, my arm's sore. I couldn't get anything. But again, it's an appreciation. I refuse to get into conversation conversations that doesn't evoke the appreciation of the greatness of these world class athletes.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

Steve, do you ever feel like a lot of these modern quarterbacks like Vick and Lamar and guys that came after you stand on your shoulders as far as being like a mobile qb, I

[Steve Young]

hope I was an oddity. I was lefty, which made it even worse. Michael and I have really bonded over that. Michael, Vick and I and, and, and lefties are still an oddity. And so being an oddity and a scrambler like back in the 80s and 90s, like scrambler was like a dirty word. And Bill Walsh was the first one that turned. You know, when he first talked to me to recruit me up there he goes, look, I see your left handedness and your ability to move as the things that can unlock you to be one of the great players that ever played. And I was like, bro, where you been? That's amazing. And then he just went and helped me live that out. And it was not a time when no one really, it wasn't the game. Today's game is that game. And you have to be able to move, you have to be able to run. You have to get the free yards. And so I don't really say Michael and Lamar and, like, I feel a kinship to their game. Like, I feel like we're in the same club and we're out fighting the same challenges, which is, I break the huddle every time, and I might be the best one to hold the football and go do something with it at quarterback, which is an unusual. No other quarterback in history is, like, breaks the huddle and goes, hey, hopefully I end up with it in some weird way. Right? And so then again. But the game is to deliver the ball from the pocket. So if you're like, it's a. It's a unique dilemma that no one really understands. Guys that didn't move around cannot talk about of how to become a great, great pocket passer, efficient, awesome, elite pocket passer and still retain this ability to move around and. And threaten the line of scrimmage. And so I. If they stand on my shoulders, I stand on. You know, I'm looking up at an appreciation for what they do and the uniqueness of how they did it, which is faster, stronger, better than I. You know what I mean? Like, they could. It was amazing. But I do feel the kinship, for sure.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. I always thought Michael Vick could have been a tailback.

[Steve Young]

Well, that's the funny thing is, like. It's like if you're 12 years old, 6 5, and £300, you're gonna play lineman. But there are some guys that could play quarterback that big. I'm waiting for some high school coach or JV coach or whatever to see a huge human who can throw it and go, you know what? Don't play lineman.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, Cam Newton was pretty big.

[Steve Young]

No, but I mean big like. Like the Kentucky.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, yeah. Jared Lorenzen.

[Steve Young]

Close, like, but that big. I know linemen that played in the pros that could throw it as well as anybody, but they weren't allowed to play the position.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, Right.

[Steve Young]

And so in that way, everyone wants, you know, if you run around back in the day, you. You should play running back.

[Marvin]

Why.

[Steve Young]

Why wouldn't you? You know, it's like, well, no, because I'm playing. Did they try to change you get it now? I spent 15, 20 years of professional football trying to show that you could be an elite, efficient quarterback and still be able to run around. And I think in that way, we all kind of broke that spell.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, but there's a difference between scrambling and then making the defense kind of pay by going downfield like Fran Tarkington scrambled.

[American Express Announcer]

Right.

[Dan Patrick]

But you. When you Ran. You were going to make. Yeah, yeah, you were.

[Steve Young]

And I think that's. That's what we're talking about.

[Dan Patrick]

He is a hall of famer. Steve Young. Did we get off on a bad foot here? It feels like we get. I don't know. I felt like the golf stuff or. I don't know. Did I. It's like we're brothers who argue a lot.

[Steve Young]

I don't mind it.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Steve Young]

Whenever we're around, like, you know.

[Dan Patrick]

I know, I know. I just. You're one of my favorite guests.

[Steve Young]

Let's just chop it up.

[Dan Patrick]

I know, but.

[Steve Young]

And I'm okay with the guy golf. Like, I'm. I'm today. Look, I told. It's like between 40 and 70. That's kind of where I'm gonna. That's where. It's where I hang out.

[Dan Patrick]

That's the sweet spot.

[Steve Young]

Larry the cable guy, Ray Romano.

[Dan Patrick]

Are you better than them?

[Steve Young]

Yeah, I beat them most of the time, yes. But it's like, that's my. That's my crowd.

[Dan Patrick]

That's your sweet spot. Could you beat Barkley?

[Steve Young]

I've always. But last year, he. I think he. He's better.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[John Miller]

Be tough.

[Steve Young]

It's going to be tough.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Thinner. Better.

[Steve Young]

Better.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Larry David. You think you could take him?

[Steve Young]

Is Larry in the car? I think he was just yesterday.

[Jonas Brothers]

I don't think.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know if he's holding on. They. We have the CEO of the tournament coming up, so.

[Steve Young]

Oh, really?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. I gotta find out if Larry's gonna play. Larry couldn't find his bag. He's walking around. It's like an episode of Curb your enthusiasm. Yesterday, he's on the range 30 minutes, he just kept walking around.

[Steve Young]

I think that's why he's a genius, is that. It's his life. That's why Seinfeld is like, this is how we live. And now film it. Yeah, film it. Watch me walk around looking for my clothes.

[Dan Patrick]

It's amazing.

[Steve Young]

It's genius.

[Dan Patrick]

What advice would you give Sam Darnold and the Seahawks about trying to repeat.

[Steve Young]

You know, really, the biggest thing about the hangover is the hubris that happens when you win a Super bowl. And it starts at the owner, usually, and it goes through the management and the coach. And, like, there's this beautiful thing that happens when you win a Super Bowl. It's like it changes you and. And it changes everyone around you a little bit, and you have to fight it. You have to battle that perception and that. That new space you're in to kind of go Back to work and go back to the humility of starting over again. And so if you. I would say to Sam Darnold, and I think he would approach it this way is, look, what have I done? Nothing this year? Let's go back to work. Let's go back and do something special. But the problem is, you say that, but you actually. It's hard to get out of the blood. You won the Super Bowl. Like, it changes, and you have to battle it, and it's really leadership. It's the top 10 guys in the locker room. You have to have some gnarly, gritty guys, you know, that are like, screw that last year. We don't want to hear. And like, that. That becomes. It kind of evokes that kind of feeling in the locker room where. Because you got to have to play in the NFL and play great. You got to be tough. You got to be gritty. And if you win a Super Bowl, a lot of times you lose that grit, and that's why things go south.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, Now I have a reason to keep an eye on your score, because if you don't finish, what, in the top 40.

[Steve Young]

No, easy now, bro. How many are how many?

[Dan Patrick]

There's 90.

[Steve Young]

90.

[Sam J.]

Yeah.

[Steve Young]

It's like in the middle. In the middle.

[Dan Patrick]

So 45 in the middle.

[Steve Young]

Like, we are in a round. Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. But if you don't finish in the top 45.

[Steve Young]

Look, I actually have another problem. I had a root yesterday. My thumb. I can't even feel it.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, here we go.

[Steve Young]

I'm just kidding.

[Dan Patrick]

Here we go. Figured.

[Steve Young]

We just.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Paulie]

Paulie, Dan, you asked us to look up some stats about Steve Young back in Greenwich. I don't have this confirmed. Steve. 79U. Greenwich High School, Fairfield County Championships versus Darien.

[Steve Young]

Is this football? Basketball, Baseball?

[Paulie]

Football.

[Steve Young]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

I got you losing 17 to 0. Unfortunately, this only stat we could find junior year, Jay Chandler, the opposing quarterback.

[Steve Young]

Senior year, I was. It was. We were. We were good. We were great.

[Paulie]

I got you with 127 yards rushing in the game, though.

[Steve Young]

That set me up to be a. Well, you know what? I supposed to be a Dodger, as you remember.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, yeah, I know that great baseball career that you had. Yeah. Tritzy goes. I got Steve Young playing baseball for the Dodgers. I go, he was not in the Dodgers system.

[Paulie]

Research.

[Steve Young]

No one's ever mentioned that in the

[John Miller]

history of talking to Steve Young.

[Dan Patrick]

You only threw six times in that game. You lost 17.

[Steve Young]

High school was. It was a. We were played. We ran the wishbone, so that gives you the wishbone.

[Dan Patrick]

And then you go to byu, the passing capital of college football.

[Steve Young]

That's where everyone who had a dream of playing in the pros, you either went to sleep. Stanford, byu, or Miami of Florida.

[Dan Patrick]

Those are the guys that could have been.

[Steve Young]

No one else was throwing it. Nobody.

[Dan Patrick]

What else could have been for you?

[Steve Young]

What could have been?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. All right, how about a round of applause for one of our favorite guests?

[Marvin]

Come on. The best ever.

[Dan Patrick]

Come on. Yeah. Marvin's a big Niner fan, so I really feel terrible.

[Marvin]

My favorite quarterback of all time, and I'm over here dressed like Bagger Vance.

[Steve Young]

Spitting image, bro. That the socks on. The socks over. That's awesome.

[Dan Patrick]

How about we take a break? All right, boys, back after this Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to the Dan Patrick show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning, 9 until noon Eastern, 6 to 9 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio. And you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. Played a round of golf with Steph Curry in the morning. So I started off the conversation by asking him what it's like playing with Steph.

[John Miller]

Well, it's unbelievably exciting, and it's got to be the most intimidating, intimidating guy to play with here, because the gallery that follows us around is absolutely gigantic. But, you know, he's, you know, obviously, he's amazing basketball player. He's definitely going to be in the hunt for the tournament here. And he's just so smooth and chill and Zen. Like, you know, when you watch him play basketball, it looks like he watches the game in slow motion. Same with golf. He's just just smooth the whole time. So really a wonderful day. Unbelievable competitor and a real gentleman.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, how many basketball questions did you ask?

[John Miller]

You know, I figured he's kind of sick of them. So I asked a lot of a few basketball questions about career and salary and earnings.

[Dan Patrick]

LeBron.

[John Miller]

I wanted to ask that question, but I avoided it. I just. I just. I didn't want to put him in that spot.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I know. And it feels like everybody wants. He knows everybody wants to ask him that question.

[John Miller]

Correct.

[Dan Patrick]

So he'll say to me, hey, great to see you, but I don't want to do an interview. And I'm like. Like, he does it in a nice way.

[American Express Announcer]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Like, unassuming. And I go, okay. But I still want to know, like, Is he recruiting LeBron? Where he thinks LeBron's going to go? There's some. See, I send you out there, you should have been getting on, you know, a reconnaissance mission.

[John Miller]

To tell you the truth. There's two or three questions I did not ask because I know people are going to ask me, and I'm a bad liar and everybody would know, so I'm better off just not knowing.

[Dan Patrick]

What was the brainchild for this tournament?

[John Miller]

So John Miller started this thing back in the early 90s. We've been around for 37 years now. It was an unbelievable story. Even my first year, 21 years ago here, we used to have to hire people to stand in downtown Lake Tahoe, and we gave out free tickets to the event to try to get people to come and show up as fans and. And stand around. And then. I don't know if you heard this or not, but the last. This was two years ago. We had to actually put perimeter security in charge because we had people tunneling underneath. Underneath the fence. They brought shovels and they tunneled in. Because we sell out now for, you know, three of the four. Three of the four days.

[Dan Patrick]

Who kind of gets you uncomfortable, verklempt, like you get nervous around a celebrity. Last time that happened here.

[John Miller]

Last time it happened, you know, there's just some big names. I, you know, when I get. I look at all these guys, honestly, you know, Steph would be right up there at the top of somebody who I have amazing respect for. But at this stage of life, I'm just kind of pretty relaxed myself. Nobody's getting under my skin all that much. And the better they play, the better I play. So I was very helpful.

[Dan Patrick]

It felt like the white whale the last couple of years was getting Larry David to come to the event.

[John Miller]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, he's here.

[John Miller]

He is here.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, Is he gonna stay here?

[John Miller]

So I walked over with him this morning, and the first thing he says to me, I said, thanks for being. He goes, who plays golf at 7:45 in the morning? I haven't played golf before 10:00am in 20 years. This is, you know, this. He goes, why don't you have later tee times? And I try to explain how we have it set up. My guess is we're going to get him today. Maybe he hangs around tomorrow, but I don't think we're going to get him in the tournament. I'd love to, but it's, you know, it's a lot of pressure out there.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know if you know this, but Larry couldn't find his clubs today.

[John Miller]

Okay?

[Dan Patrick]

We watched him for 30 minutes. It was like. It was a curb your enthusiasm episode. He's walking around he cannot find his clubs. So I don't know if he's going to bring that up to anybody. But it was funny. It was just Larry is being Larry, and he couldn't find his clubs.

[John Miller]

It's probably one more reason he probably won't stay for the weekend. I did watch him hit a few on the range, and it was really funny. It was right out of the, you know, curb your enthusiasm. He hit it about 15 yards, and he goes like this. I'm like, okay. I mean, it was. It was right out of one of the shows.

[Dan Patrick]

My guy Marvin started a chant last night. You know, you gave your State of the Union address to everybody, and you were talking about Team USA winning the gold medal, and Marvin started chanting, usa. So just want to let you know, Marvin, if you'd like to take credit for it. I'm kind of paraphrasing here.

[Marvin]

You're welcome. Just two words. 250 years, America. They won the gold medal for the first time. We said 46 years. I think all of us kind of looked at each other, like, 46 years. Then they stood up and, you know, they started, you know, applauding. I was like, you know what you say?

[Sam J.]

It's.

[John Miller]

I got a bad or good feeling it's going to be a hockey year. So today in the celeb am, the last I saw, Matthew Tkachuk is in first place. Brady's out here. Matthew said he's an amazing karaoke player, but, you know, Joe from last year. And then while I haven't seen Matt Boldy play, everybody tells me he's like a plus two. So I think we're going to see a lot of hockey players on the leaderboard and then funny stories. I don't know if you've heard the whole Tkachuk story, but I had a watch party at my house the day of the USA Olympic gold medal game, and they win. You know, I got like 20 people at the house. Everybody's jumping up and excited. My friends phone's ringing, and, you know, it's a lot of hockey friends. And then I look down and one of them is Matthew Tkachuk. I'm like, oh, my God. You know, grab the phone and say, man, what's going on? He goes, we just won. You know, he's so excited. Yeah, yeah, I know. I just saw it. We're celebrating. And he goes, I'm here with my brother Brady. I said, yeah. He goes, brady would really love to play in the tournament. He literally just got the gold medal around his neck 30 minutes ago. And I said, said look, on behalf of 330 million Americans, you just made super proud right now. Tell your brother he's welcome to come. So it's Brady's first year. I understand he's not a great golfer, but he's going to really light it up at karaoke tonight.

[Dan Patrick]

Jonathan Thomas, Chairman, CEO, President, American Century Investments. Before I let you go, just the charitable contributions. I think people sometimes forget what this tournament stands for and what it's meant to this community and other charities. So I'll give you the opportunity.

[John Miller]

Thanks so much. So, yeah, first of all, we're American century investments, around $350 billion, one of the larger asset managers in the country. The thing that really and by that we have mutual funds, ETFs, IRAs, and we help people for college retirement, etc. But the thing that's really distinguishes us from all of our competitors is we direct over 40% of our profits each and every year to medical research, to the Stowers Institute for Medical Research. It's been about 2.2 billion with a B dollars that we've sent there. We support about 550 scientists working on 20 different cancer and other gene based diseases. And then in addition to that, and this is just a platform for us to tell that story. In addition to that, we've raised a little bit over $8 million for local charities, local and national charities that we distribute as well to the community here. You may have seen what we did over for Tim Wakefield a day or two ago. So it's really, it's just a perfect platform. It's the perfect place. The celebrities are amazing, the weather's perfect and for us to tell our story, it's the eyes on this. I'm sure, you know, right. We had 5 million viewers last year. There's 85,000 people on the course and it's just a great, great springboard for, for us to tell the story.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you again for letting us be part of it.

[John Miller]

Yeah, thank you.

[Dan Patrick]

We appreciate it.

[John Miller]

You guys always have the best studio. I don't know how you do this every year, but it's amazing. It's five times bigger than anything else. Thank you guys. Thanks for having me.

[Dan Patrick]

Jonathan Thomas CEO American Century. Coming up, Nate Borgazzi and Austin Reeves this meet Friday from Lake Tahoe. Dan and the Dan It's Dan Patrick show. We will update the poll results. Also the Rec Tech grills ready to go. Make sure you check them [e-mail] final hour. Dan and the Dan Ants right after this.

[Sam J.]

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