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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
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Todd
All right, I'll give it to you.
Dan Patrick
That's not bad, right?
Todd
I didn't get a bloop in a while.
Dan Patrick
You got one. I mean, I'm still under the weather. Okay.
Todd
I factored that in with the bloop.
Dan Patrick
That I gave you. So they fire Chip Kelly. Chiefs over the Colts. And that's one of those games where the Chiefs, Chiefs are going to look back on that game and go, thank God we got that win. And the Colts might look back on that and go, we could have put them, we could have put them to bed. The rest of the AFC is going to look back and go, come on, Colts, act like you are a contender. And that was their moment. That was their. Here we go. Let's see the Colts, let's go. They're winning 20 to nine and I'm going, all right. But it was, it was too much time and, and their, their offense wasn't doing anything. And then you gave Mahomes an opportunity and they were opportunistic. So the Chiefs, what's the schedule coming up, Paulie?
Paulie
It eases up a little bit. They're at the Cowboys on Thanksgiving. Host the Texans, host the Chargers at the Titans vs Host the Broncos at the Raiders. A lot of winnable games.
Dan Patrick
I'd look at two of them that I would say the Raiders and the Titans. But I'm, I'm. The Texans are good, D. I wouldn't rule that out they go to Dallas. Dallas is playing well. That's not a W. I mean, if it is, it's kind of a dub. Not wish. Yeah, the Chargers Bronco just say, you know, maybe there's. Maybe there's three wins in there. Let's say four. So that puts them at. Does that give him 10 wins?
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
What?
Todd
Yeah. Six or five. Four wins. They'll get to 10 and seven with four wins the rest of the way.
Dan Patrick
Wow. You didn't even buzz in. You were like, I know my AFC.
Todd
West standings very well. And six and five, four wins.
Dan Patrick
10 and seven. Okay. 10 and seven should get them in in the AFC. All right. I was wondering about this. Let's say we looked at the MVP candidates and I already mentioned this first hour. According to DraftKings, it's Matthew Staffords to lose, then it's Drake May. Those are the two guys who it looks like have a legitimate shot to win this. Jonathan Taylor. Well, down the list, Josh Allen. Patrick Mahomes. What if the NFL did what college football does for the Heisman? What if we invited four candidates? Maybe five if you want to. But let's say four to the NFL honors night. Matthew Stafford, Jameer Gibbs. Drake May, Jackson Smith Najigma. I think that would be fun. Now, you're not going to have Gibbs or Smith Najigba win, but you want representation there, and I think that would be great. And if there's another candidate you want to throw in there. Yes, Paul.
Paulie
Okay, for the fifth spot, Miles Garrett or Jonathan Taylor, the running back of.
Dan Patrick
The cold, I would put Miles Garrett. I'd put Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett's going to end up with the all time sack record, single season sack record. And he had three sacks. He's got 18 on the season. So since the NFL began tracking individual sacks in 1982, the only player to have more sacks through the first 12 games of a season, Reggie White. He had 19 in his first 12 games. That was back in 1987. Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the program. The Browns had 10 sacks in the win against the Raiders, and that is the most in a Single game since 1984. Also, Shadore Sanders is the first Browns quarterback to win his first NFL start since the franchise returned to Cleveland in 1999. They had 17 quarterbacks make their first NFL start in a Browns uniform and they all lost. A day. Start of the day, start of the day. This is the start out of the day. I haven't spent a Lot of time on Shador Sanders, and rightfully so, because any other quarterback whose name is not Shador Sanders, we're probably not spending that much time. And I know that Dion was at the game.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
He.
Dan Patrick
He had a couple of big moments there. I just want to let him be able to play instead of letting the media use him, you know, as a talking point. Because I don't need any declarations on Shador Sanders. I don't need it. Hey, if he would have started the entire season, okay, he didn't. Let's see what he does. Be fair to the kid. And he had three big plays, but he didn't. He didn't beat himself. He didn't lose a game for his team. He had an interception, but he acted like a rookie quarterback, so there's positives there. Now you're beating the Raiders. Okay, let's see how he does next game against the 49ers and give him a chance. And I hope he gets a chance to start a few more games. Then you can find. Find out if he can play or not and put that. But if you're going to go with those numbers and say, hey, we'll take those. Those numbers, well, that means your defense has to play like that against everybody, and you're not going to win a lot of games if that's the case, where you're waiting for your defense to have 10 sacks. Now I want to see if he can push the ball down the field. He had a couple of big plays. He will throw the ball deep. I think he gave the Browns a boost. I thought it was great. Come in play and, you know, see if there's something that they can add, you know, to the play calling here. But it's good if I give Dylan Gabriel a couple more starts. I give Shador Sanders a couple more starts. And really in what I was told is Dylan Gabriel was quicker at the line of scrimmage and getting the ball out, that was the big thing that he could done have the, you know, same arm as Shador. Neither of them is really that mobile. I mean, athletic, but. And that's what I. I don't want to see any kind of rushing numbers with Shador Sanders. I. I want him staying in the pocket. I want him, you know, now he rolled right a couple of times. That's great. But I don't want him trying to, you know, revert back to college days where you're trying to extend a play. But I thought for the most part, that was pretty good. And I'll go back to what I said prior to the draft, I thought the Raiders were going to take him with Tom Brady there mentoring him and the fact that you needed a backup quarterback for Geno Smith. I thought he was obviously going higher. And then all of a sudden I talked to my source and said, you know, he's dropping for a variety of reasons, but what you saw yesterday, good for him. And the Cleveland Browns, more importantly.
Paulie
Yeah, Paulie, right now the Browns have the second ranked defense in yards given up in the NFL. What a big advantage for any young quarterback to have that. No, not a lot of pressure to put up 35 points.
Dan Patrick
Dak Prescott through for 354. He surpassed Tony Romo for the most in Cowboys franchise history. And they came back from 21 zip. That equals the biggest comeback in franchise history. You go back to 2014 against the Rams and with the Eagles, the questions are there. It's weird how we're not quite sure like what is happening here. You're not running the football. Give credit to Dallas. They stopped the run. Saquon Barkley, what do you have? 26 yards. I mean that's crazy. And a fumble. I mean their best play might be the tush push. Why not just line up and just do that? Do an entire series, just go, we're just going to do this down the field. Let's make a total mockery of the tush push. But you just keep watching and you're going there. Yeah, something there. And I've said this from the outset that there just felt like there was some kind of disconnect, something, an underlying issue or two. And you saw that you're up 21, nothing and nobody's got any worries until you're not scoring any points. And Dallas all of a sudden makes a couple plays and. And give them credit. Now Dallas, it's become. It's going to be a. You don't just say, that's a W. Yeah, Chief's got the Cowboys. That's not a given. And that defense, that'll be an interesting test for the Kansas City Chiefs.
Paulie
Yeah, Paul, if you were Saquon Barkley, they were on the one yard line last night, the Eagles after a catch. Would you be salty at all that you don't get the ball at the one yard line to punch it in?
Dan Patrick
Well, their best play is a tush push.
Paulie
Right. But also he's a really tough goal line running back. You wouldn't mix it up a little bit and keep your star running back happy. I was with a couple people yesterday and we were Discussing this. Like, if you're Barkley, you'd be like, let's mix it up.
Dan Patrick
No, I scored touchdown. I'm not here for feelings. I gotta win. Like, hey, let's give it to Saquon, keep him happy. I gotta score a touchdown. And this is an offense that's been spotty. Yes, Todd, but if they're all expecting.
Todd
The tush push, what about rolling out and then it's a hurts. Take it around the bend. Or if they come up on you, you'll dump it to the tight end once in a while. I kind of would like to see that too. Everyone's expecting you to just push forward. And even as high of a percentage as that is, just roll out and run it in or just dump it.
Dan Patrick
You don't get extra points.
Todd
I understand.
Dan Patrick
For creativity. No, you know what? We're going to give you eight points.
Todd
But give them something to think about in the quarters and weeks to come. Then they may once in a while they don't do the twitch push. They go around the bend.
Dan Patrick
What's the poll question for hour two? Seaton, we got one here from Paul.
Seaton
The over.500 team you believe in the least.
Dan Patrick
Oh, that's Jacksonville.
Seaton
He's going to start with his Bears, then Jaguars, Panthers, 49ers.
Dan Patrick
It's weird to believe in Carolina more than Jacksonville. But. But I've watched two, two full games with the Panthers and it's weird for.
Seaton
The 49ers to be on that list with those teams and make sense like I don't know.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Paulie
Pulling to be devil's advocate here with the Bears. The quarterback they've quarterbacks they've beaten in the last six games. Mason Rudolph, J.J. mcCarthy, Jackson Dart, Joe Flacco, Tyler Hunley, which they lost to, and Spencer Rattler. They're doing it against not the best quarterbacks. Makes you question what they could do against a good team. A very good team.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I still think they're a playoff caliber team. Of course, I said that last year as well. But Jacksonville still that like they got seven wins. Like, it's just. You're going, okay, all right. And I'm watching the NFC South. Dang Panthers. I mean, Panthers could win their division. My Panthers could win the division there. I'm watching the Falcons. I tune in and I see Kirk Cousins hesitate on an in route and he throws in a pick six. And I was like, oh my God. Kurt D. Cousins watching the Saints, watched a little bit of that. Taysom Hill got in a quarterback.
Paulie
Oh, they're always surprised when he runs.
Dan Patrick
It, I know they're always surprised. Taysom Hills in. Here's a run and then he does run. I think he lost yards there. Yes.
Seaton
It feels like we're running down a lot of time, a lot of teams. I still have the Mike Tomlin topic in my head a little bit where I'm like, man, I bet those teams would trade with a. With a Mike Tomlin, like, run. Oh, yeah, For a while, man. I think sometimes being competitive, even if you don't win, it's a little underrated.
Dan Patrick
Well, yeah, but the bar was set so high, and I think now. Okay, let me see if he's. We're going to go back to a Super Bowl. Are we going to go to an AFC title game? That you're. That's your expectations in Carolina, it's just get through the season without getting fired or, you know, Tennessee, some of these other Saints. Where you going? You know, what's your. What's your goal? Not get fired. Try to make it through all 17 games. Yes. Marvin.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
To Seon's point, the Steelers really haven't had, like, a great roster. Their defense hasn't been all that great besides T.J. watt, and they haven't had a quarterback. So it's pretty admirable for Tomlin to do what he's been doing with this roster. They're not good.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but why aren't they good?
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Because they don't have talent.
Dan Patrick
Remember, they had to get rid of their gm, and then they got rid of their gm and then. So is it the gm? I don't know. I mean, they've had some defensive playmakers aside from TJ Wad, but, you know, the division, it is kind of spotty now. Baltimore's been pretty good, but Cincinnati can be up and down and their coach probably will lose his job. The Brown situation. Oh, but I do think that there is a local perception of Michael Mike Tomlin that is completely different than a national perception. Yes, Marv, I'm with you.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
The perception for me is great. Wide receivers with tons of potential that end up not doing anything for whatever reason, they go off the deep end and I'm like, man, this is all under your watch. Mike. Mike Tomlin.
Dan Patrick
Okay, but is he drafting these guys or is the GM drafting these guys? Does he have to put up with these personalities? I got, I don't know, the chain of command and how much say Mike Tomlin has. Yes.
Seaton
Do we really think after this many years, Mike Tomlin doesn't have say in the players that they're bringing in.
Dan Patrick
I would, I would think he would have a say, I would imagine. But it's do I give him credit or do I give him blame? Because I don't know if he got credit for the players they did bring in. That like, did he want T.J. watt? Like, I don't know. Yeah.
Paulie
Paulie, I've gotten a lot of notes from Steelers fans on social media saying Mike Tomlin, in their opinion, I don't know if it's a report, has complete control over the roster over the past 10 years. Like, as it works with the GM. Nothing is done without Tomlin's approval.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Okay.
Paulie
I don't know if that's true, but a lot of people say that.
Dan Patrick
Okay, well then we should ding him on that. That it's not. Hey, you drafted him. I got to coach him. If he's involved in this, then you know he's part of the problem. Yes.
Seaton
Which is, I guess to that caller's point. He won with Cowers guys.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Seaton
And hasn't done anything with his own.
Dan Patrick
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Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Yeah, I mean, Dan Shadir, Santa should be the starter moving forward. And I say that fully knowing that if you listen to Kevin Stefanski's postgame speech, he wanted nothing with giving Shader any type of credit for the way that the team performed. And I know the skeptics out there will say, well, he had 146 yards of, you know, yards after the catch and he, he had a bad interception. But when you watch the, the actual game and you watched how the team responded to him, you haven't seen that from a quarterback at the starting position for the Cleveland Browns in quite some time. And it's just so, it's a, it's an interesting thing because when you love the game of football, sometimes the game will love you back. Not always, but sometimes it does. And when you look at Shadira's situation come into the season, Joe Flacco is a starter. He's not there anymore. He's in, he's in Cincinnati. Kenny Pickett is the guy they wanted to be the starter, he got hurt in training camp. Then Dylan Gabriel comes in, the guy that the head coach clearly prefers gloves, and he gets hurt and gets a concussion. So when you get your opportunity to have your first full week of practice reps with the number one offense, and you go out there and you perform the way that he did to me, that just shows you when the team responds to you, they play with more purpose, they play with more excitement. The defense comes away with 10 sacks. I think you have the guy in the building right now that should be the starter for the remainder of the season. And the big thing, Dan, it wasn't just like, hey, take the simple stuff. It was the extended plays, the big playmaking on, the broken plays that they've been missing this entire season that Shadir was able to pull off. And I think that's why he should be the starter.
Dan Patrick
What do you think of this idea if I treat the NFL MVP like the Heisman and I invite Matthew Stafford, Jameer Gibbs, Drake May, Jackson, Smith, Jigma, and Miles Garrett. Okay, what do you think? If those guys are all there and we make the announcement of the mvp? So I know Jameer Gibbs isn't going to win, or Smith, Jigba, Miles Garrett, because he's a defensive player, but to have representation would be great at multiple positions. What do you think?
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Yeah, I was going to say, but why not? You know, we. We've gotten stuck on this. Hey, the quarterback has to win the MVP or the quarterback has to win the Heisman Trophy. And I don't think. I don't think that's the case at all right now. When you talk about the Heisman Trophy, the. The top two guys on my list are Jacob Rodriguez, the linebacker from Texas Tech, and Jeremiah Love, the running back from Notre Dame. So I don't know why we have to be stuck into that. I understand that quarterbacks are the sexy pick, right? They. They sell more jerseys, they. More people know who the quarterbacks are. But I, I tweeted out yesterday that I, I think Jackson, Smith and Jigba should be on everybody's list. Now, I, I do believe that Matt Stafford should be at the top of everybody's list, because I don't think anyone's playing quarterback better than he is right now and absolutely rolling. But when you look at Miles Garrett, the only thing that could maybe prevent him from winning MVP is the Browns record. 18 sacks in 11 games is unheard of. He is going to absolutely smash my colleague Michael Strahan's record when it comes to sacks. In a season. But I think all these guys, when you have these super impressive years. Saquon Barkley Last year I felt like should have been, probably should have won NFL mvp. So I am not a guy and I've been, I don't want to say maligned for it, but I have been chastised for it by some of my colleagues on my stops about putting guys that are not quarterbacks in that MVP race. But this year shows you exactly what you're talking about, Dan. Running backs, wide receivers, defensive ends, they should all be in that conversation. And why not make it more of an event to go out and be able to announce the NFL MVP and truly tell those guys stories in a unique way, just like we do with the Heisman Trophy.
Dan Patrick
Should we be focus focusing more on the Cowboys comeback or the Eagles collapse?
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
I think we should be focusing on the Cowboys comeback. I will say this about the Eagles. If the, if people were upset that they were 8 and 2, oh, they're definitely upset now that they're. They're 8 and 3 and they gave up 24 unanswered points to their division rival. I do believe that Jalen Hurts and the criticism around him has. It's not just unfair because then we know this life is not fair. Right?
Seaton
It's.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
It is what it is, but I just think it's not justified. There's a lot of teams that wish they could be 8 and 3 right now. And, and Jalen Hurts shouldn't be getting some of the criticism that he is. But to focus on the Cowboys, how amazing of a pickup has George Pickens been? I mean, when you look at receivers and this is something my coaches would talk to me all the time, don't just look at a guy's catches in his yards. Look at his target and how many. What share or percentage of his targets is he actually catching? Do you have to throw it to him 15 times for him to catch 10 of them? And Pickens last night, nine targets, nine catches, 146 yards. And talk about efficiency for them to come back the way that they did. I think he was a big part of that. Dak is obviously playing an extremely high level. Funniest thing I saw on the Internet, though, was the the Eagles posting a wall of all their defenders and saying, who's going to get past this? And after the Cowboys won, they posted a picture of Dak Prescott as the Kool Aid man. And that made me laugh harder than anything yesterday. So that was a pretty epic. They definitely won the day on Twitter for The Cowboys social media team.
Dan Patrick
Okay, but why did the Steelers move on from George Pickens? And would you give him a long term deal if you're Jerry Jones?
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
I mean, Jerry Jones wouldn't give Michael Parsons a long term deal, but I think when you have wide receivers, you have to be willing to manage the good with the bad. And I think in, in Pittsburgh, George Pickens had kind of wore out his welcome. I think they felt like they were on an Antonio Brown track with him there. And you have to give Pickens credit because I know they're going to. People are going to, you know, kill. The Steelers are saying, why would you get rid of this guy? Just got to understand all the stuff that was going on there. And now Pickens has come to the Dallas Cowboys, a team that most would say doesn't have a great team culture. And he's been a great teammate. So I just tip my, my cap to Pickens to say, to see him mature so much in just a year. I think CD Lamb has a lot to do with that as well. And you know, when you go to Dallas as a receiver, there's one thing you will get, it's your numbers. And I, I think I have had to manage receivers who all want the ball. And at the college level, I had four guys that could all have 100 catches in a season. I didn't quite have that in the NFL. But you have to learn to manage those situations in those relationships while trying to win and trying to help those receivers get paid. And I think Pickens is very, very thankful for Dak Prescott because not only are they winning, but he's also getting his numbers, which is going to change his Life.
Dan Patrick
Talking to RG3, his Out of Pocket podcast. Out of Pocket with RG3. Wherever you get your podcast, give me the team or teams you're just not quite sure of right now.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Oh, yeah, something. I kind of like this one, but it's still, for me, the Indianapolis Colts. And the reason I say that is they had a, a very unique opportunity this past weekend to beat Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs in the way that no one thought they could beat them. And for Daniel Jones, he's proved a lot of people wrong, including myself, with the way that he's played this year. But he started hot, and over the past couple weeks, he started to cool off just a little bit and maybe come back down to earth. But he's played his tail off. I had him in the MVP race a couple weeks ago because, listen, when you. Dan, you know this, when you, when you're wrong about something, you got to admit it. And I did not think that he would play as well as he had with the Colts, but the knock on him was the same knock that was on Sam Donald, you know, the same knock that's been on other guys that have gone places and had extreme success in the regular season. But then when they get in those big time playoff matchups, they don't quite live up to the expectation. And this to me was a playoff game for the Colts and they had the Chiefs beat and they came back. Patrick Mahomes threw for 352 yards, no touchdowns, but they were able to call themselves back from an 11 point deficit and win the game. And that to me was a sign of like, can Daniel Jones, can he, can he close the door on a big time quarterback? The best that we have, I think in the galaxy still. I know Stafford is playing the best right now, but Mahomes is on pace to be the greatest ever and he couldn't do it on the Chiefs off day. That to me was the thing where like, man, I'm just not sure about them as a whole competing in the playoffs if they couldn't beat this version of the Kansas City Chiefs.
Dan Patrick
Explain to me Matthew Stafford at this age doing what he's doing.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Yeah, I said it yesterday. I don't think I can remember a quarterback with his level of arm talent that's played this well at the age of 37 years old.
Dan Patrick
But explain arm talent.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
What are we talking about when people say arm talent? There's varying diff, variations of it. Like is it a strong arm? Is it the arm angles, Is it the timing? Is it the flick of the wrist? Is it the way it looks when you make those throws? I think he has all of that and he's playing better than I think he's ever played in his career. So when I watched the game, you know, some guys, they dropped back. Hey, rhythm and feet, clean eyes, clean feet. He's getting there. In the second hitch when he's supposed to like Stafford, it's like poetry in motion, you know, I'm like, damn, that was a good throw. Like he, he made the two box, he made the two fade throws to Devonte Adams and the second one where Devonte ran up the, the, the tunnel, it was an extended handoff when he threw it, I said, oh, that was beautiful. Devonte hadn't even caught the ball yet. But I just knew watching the throw and the way that he, he put, he puts a little style at the end of some of his throws. And you know, coaches would talk to me about that like, you know, as a quarterback when, oh, I got him. Yeah, I, I, I, I didn't pull the string, I dropped it in the bucket and I, when you watch him make those kind of throws, you're almost certain he's going to complete every single pass. To me, his arm talent, he's the, the king of the. No, look, throw. I know we all praise Patrick Mahomes for it, but Stafford's doing it like eight times a game and he's doing it with his helmet stripe. So he'll throw over here, but his helmet stripe is this way and his eyes are over here. And like most guys try that, they throw interceptions because you can't peripherally see who's all back here. So I've just been completely amazed, to be quite honest, with what Stafford has done. It's hard for guys to carry that arm talent into their late 30s, early 40s. And we saw that with Peyton, we saw that with Tom, and now we're seeing Stafford defy all those odds and he looks like he could play for another five, six, seven years the way he's playing this year.
Dan Patrick
Best team in the NFL is. Wow.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Best team in the NFL. LA Rams. I really believe they, when you look at the, the way they're structured, two number one receivers in Devonte Adams and Pukinakua, quarterbacks playing at MVP level, two running backs and Blake Corm and Kyron that are, that give you everything you absolutely need. And their defense is just smothering. I mean, I felt bad for Baker with the shoulder. Don't know what the injury prognosis is going to be for him, but it was almost as if he was out there fending for himself that this Rams.
Dan Patrick
Team.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
I know they don't have Aaron Donald and I know they won a Super bowl, but this might be the best Rams team that Sean McVeigh's ever had.
Dan Patrick
Do you ever kid around with Andrew Luck beating him out for the Heisman?
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Yeah, we, me and Andrew go way back. We were Texas competing. We never played against each other, but I've known Andrew for a really long time and when we got to the Heisman, it was, you know, he was the guy that everybody thought was going to win for the past three years when we got there and he definitely wanted to win that award. It just so happened that we had a better year.
Dan Patrick
Paulie, do you have the voting?
Paulie
Yeah, he got him by about 200 votes. It's pretty close.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but you don't joke around with Andrew with that when a few.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
I am not the guy that. That pokes and prods guys about the heism trophy. I look at it more as an honor as opposed to, hey, I want it. You didn't. And I actually took everybody out. So they give you an opportunity to take a limo by yourself, go out on town, have fun with your people, or you can get limos for. For everybody and everybody can go out on the town. So I chose to bring everybody out. Monty Ball, Tyrone, Matthew, Andrew Luck, Trent Richardson. And we had a great time on the city there in New York. But it's been cool to watch Andrew, you know, at Stanford being the general manager and the reaction he had on the sideline this, this past weekend with the scoop and score shows you how much he loves football. And I'm happy for him because at the end of the day, this guy retired early. Right. He retired early when everyone thought he was at the, the prime of his career because he didn't love football anymore. So it's awesome to see him back in love with football.
Dan Patrick
Could you see him being the head coach at Stanford next year?
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Yeah, I mean, he's already pretty much is pretty much that.
Dan Patrick
That's what I felt like. He's. He gets so into it. He. He's so close that that's as close as you can get to the action by being the head coach. So he, he could take that Stanford job.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
And Dan, don't you think it's the smartest way to do it? Like, he's a general manager. They're interviewing him on the sideline. How many other general managers are getting interviewed in the middle of the game?
Dan Patrick
I know. Yeah.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
The team isn't that good this year.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
But they could potentially be really good over the next couple years. And then he just waltzes right in there, puts the head coach hat on and now he doesn't have to take those losses on his record. He can have. He can have a good team and go out there and make it happen. I'm really happy for him.
Dan Patrick
Good to talk to you. Thank you. Happy Thanksgiving.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Happy Thanksgiving. God bless.
Dan Patrick
That's Robert Griffin Jr. III out of pocket with RG3 podcast. Wherever you get your podc. We'll take a break. We will give you our best and worst of the weekend right after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.
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Rick Neuheisel Top of the hour. I'll ask him what he thinks Lane Kiffin is going to do. Supposed to get that answer by the end of the week. It's Mississippi against Mississippi State. And you know that's one of those where a coach doesn't want distractions leading up to any big games. But then he's the distraction leading up to the big game. Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. Let's go around the infield. Todd Best and Worst of the Weekend.
Todd
Best of the weekend. He did it in a tough 5147 loss to Utah. But how about some love for Kansas State? Running back Joe Jackson rushed for nearly 300 yards. Found the end zone in Salt Lake on three occasions as well. Little love for Joe Jackson for my best. Worst Syracuse A lot of quick 21 points before Notre Dame's offense ever got on the field.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
2.
Dan Patrick
Pick 6.
Todd
A blocked punt for a touchdown. The injury plagued Orange Squeeze in South Bend 70 to 7.
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I tuned in. It was 21 nothing. I go, how did you score 21 points? That was crazy. And all of a sudden I go and the offense hasn't been on the field yet.
Seaton
That was crazy.
Dan Patrick
Yes it was. Yes it was.
Seaton
I felt terrible for Syracuse there. My goodness.
Dan Patrick
Seaton Best and Worst of the weekend.
Seaton
My best of the weekend is going to be a tie between the Chiefs and the Cowboys. Both of their seasons. Sort of reborn. Both of them kind of saved their Chiefs really needed that win. My worst of the weekend is going to be Shane Steichen. Man, you have the Chiefs on the ropes. You have Patrick Mahomes down and you, you found a way to blue that. I don't know if Jonathan Taylor got enough carries in overtime. I don't know if you punt on 4th and 4 there. There was just a lot of questionable decisions that were made that maybe will continue as a storyline throughout the rest of the season.
Dan Patrick
Felt like the Colts did a disservice to every other team in the NFL. All the contenders. Yes, because that's where everybody goes. Hey, colts are leading 20 to nine.
Seaton
This is, I would bet now, like the rest of my pay for the year that the Chiefs win the super bowl now just based off of that game where it's like, oh, this is where their season turned around. This is why they won the Super Bowl. This game stinks.
Dan Patrick
Marvin, Best and worst of the weekend.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Your boy, my boy Diego Pavia from Vanderbilt. 33, 39, 484 yards, five touchdowns. Dude's been on a roll. Worst of the weekend, Fritz. He took mine, so I'm gonna go with my second worst. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Baker Mayfield three weeks ago was an MVP candidate. They've lost three straight and he got hurt.
Dan Patrick
Paulie Best and Worst Pitt Panthers 42.
Paulie
28 Over Georgia Tech. Freshman running back Jacarian Turner. 21 carries, 201 yards to lead to Pitt Panthers and another running back, BYU running back L.J. martin. 32 carries, 222 and two touchdowns. BYU is now 10 and 1.
Dan Patrick
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Caller
ADP. Thanks for taking my call. Best of the weekend was that one o' clock slate. Just all the endings and witching hour, as Todd Hanson likes to say. But the the worst of the weekend was Ja Morant almost going full Ja Morant. There was no gun involved, but I love that he calls a multiple time champion and one of the greatest shooters in the NBA a bum. And I would just say make it to the finals or maybe just make it through a season without posting a gun on Instagram Live before you want to take shots at someone like Klay Thompson.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I was embarrassed for John Morant. He's not even playing. You're in street clothes, you should shut up. How about play and then you're going to call Klay Thompson a bum. There have been very few professional athletes who were more professional on and off the court than Clay. Steve Kerr would tell you that he wasn't high maintenance, he wasn't low maintenance, he was no maintenance. He accepted his role. He played it great. He's a hall of famer. And I got some kid on the sidelines in street clothes who can't stay healthy and stay out of trouble calling Klay Thompson a bum. Michael in Ohio. Hi, Mike. What's on your mind today, gentlemen?
Caller
Six two, slim, 175, best of the weekend. Hold on to your horses because this is going to be really weird. Listen to Fritz. He talk about his trip in Vegas and the highlight being these amazing curtains. Eating his snacks and drinking his drinky do's and just people watching. I think I found my spirit animal because honestly, that really resonated with me and I'm a little scared. So thank you, Fritzi. That's my best and worst. I teach here at UNOH in Lima, and our women's soccer team got invited to the NAIA National Attorney, but we lost in the first round. So that was the worst. But hey, gentlemen, if you give me your sizes, I can send you some UNOH swag. Go Racers.
Dan Patrick
Absolutely. Send a large and extra large there. Thank you, Michael. And I will say the curtains at the fountain blue are pretty spectacular. Like, you press a button and they open up and even if you just pull on the curtain a little bit, it'll close. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't have to hit the button. I mean, it's. It. In fairness to Todd now, I wouldn't spend my whole, you know, week there. I'd walk around, maybe go outside for a moment. But you, you were playing with the curtain. You were fascinated with the curtains.
Todd
You could put all the lights on, dim them, shut them off, and then the curtains open and there's the sphere and the whole strip is like. It's a big deal to me.
Dan Patrick
By the way, we spent a lot of time with Frank Caliendo when we were out there, and he did a James in Virginia impersonation at one point. Segue James in Virginia, joining us. Hey, James.
Caller
That caught me completely off guard. DP thank you. My call. Man, that. That. That is humbling to say the least, man. I would love to hear that. Man. I tell you what, man. The interview you did with Crawling Cowley, the gentleman of the F1, he had me rolling, man. His energy was through the roof. I love that one. Excuse me. You really caught me off guard with Frank Caliendo. That guy's the man. I definitely am calling about college football and NFL real quick. Dt. Man, I don't know if Alabama is going to make the college football playoffs, man. Eight of the top 11 teams are undefeated or have one loss. Now the caveat is a couple of them will play each other in conference championships, but I don't think the team should get dinged for losing in conference title games. But I don't make those false. But definitely that loss to Florida State early in the year is looming large for Alabama. Alabama and in the NFL, you have 10 teams in both conferences fighting for seven playoff spots. I don't know if 107 gets you in in either conference, man.
Dan Patrick
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Date: November 24, 2025
Host: Dan Patrick (and team: Seaton, Fritzy, Marv, Paulie)
Guest: Robert Griffin III (RG3) - Fox analyst, podcast host
This hour of The Dan Patrick Show dives into the latest NFL storylines, MVP debates, team credibility, and coaching intrigue. The centerpiece is a lively conversation with Robert Griffin III (RG3), who brings insight from both an analyst and a former NFL quarterback's perspective. With spotlights on the Browns' quarterback situation, the crowded MVP race, and the shifting power dynamics in the league, the show blends humor, debates, stats, and sharp takes.
Monday Night Football Preview:
Panthers vs. 49ers discussed as an "oddly relevant" matchup, "feels like a Thursday night game on a Monday" (Dan, [05:00]).
Chiefs vs. Colts
MVP Race & NFL Honors Format
Shadore Sanders' First Browns Win
**Eagles vs. Cowboys:
Least Believable Over .500 Team?
Mike Tomlin & Steelers' Perpetual Competitiveness
"You haven't seen the team respond to a quarterback like that in a long time…they played with more purpose, more excitement" ([27:15]).
"Why not? … Running backs, wide receivers, defensive ends, they should all be in that conversation… this year shows you exactly what you're talking about, Dan" ([29:45]).
"I just think it's not justified, all the criticism Jalen Hurts is getting… but how amazing of a pickup has George Pickens been?" ([31:11]).
"…Most would say [the Cowboys] don't have a great team culture, but he's been a great teammate… he's also getting his numbers, which is going to change his life" ([33:28]).
"They had the Chiefs beat…and [Daniel Jones] couldn't close the door on a big time quarterback. That to me was the thing… I'm just not sure about them" ([35:06]).
"I don't think I can remember a quarterback with his level of arm talent playing this well at 37 years old" ([36:11]).
"He's the king of the no-look throw…Stafford's doing it like eight times a game" ([37:33]).
"This might be the best Rams team that Sean McVay's ever had" ([39:03]).
"He can have a good team and just waltz right in there, puts the head coach hat on…" ([41:19]).
On Browns QB Debut:
RG3: "When you love the game of football, sometimes the game will love you back." ([27:02])
On NFL MVP Event:
Dan: "What if we invited four candidates to the NFL honors night, like Heisman night? … I think that would be fun." ([08:14])
On Matthew Stafford’s Arm Talent:
RG3: "When you watch him make those kind of throws, you're almost certain he's going to complete every single pass." ([37:22])
On Coaching Tenure vs. Roster Building:
Dan: "Do I give [Tomlin] credit or do I give him blame? … Like, did he want T.J. Watt? I don't know." ([20:13])
On Playoff Races:
Dan: "I still think [the Bears] are a playoff caliber team. Of course, I said that last year as well." ([17:00])
This hour blends sharp analysis and playful banter, offering a well-rounded NFL discussion with an insider edge. RG3's passion and unique perspective jump out, especially regarding the need for broader MVP recognition and his deep appreciation for QB play. The team pokes fun at each other, but never loses sight of the intriguing questions moving the NFL narrative.
For listeners craving stats, storylines, humor, and informed debate on the NFL’s wildest trends, this hour delivers.