Hour 2 – NFL Week 2 Reactions, Bill Cowher

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show

Hour 2 – NFL Week 2 Reactions, Bill Cowher

Date: September 15, 2025
Host: Dan Patrick
Guest: Bill Cowher (Hall of Fame NFL Coach, CBS Analyst)

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Dan Patrick Show dives deep into key takeaways from NFL week 2, with a focus on quarterback injuries, evolving NFL rules (notably the controversial Eagles “Tush Push” play), and pivotal moments from the weekend. Highlighting the hour is a candid interview with Hall of Fame coach Bill Cowher, who provides experienced insight into coaching philosophies, the Steelers' season, special teams' impact, and his strong stance against the "Tush Push." Interactive segments with callers add fans’ perspectives and humor, creating an engaging recap for sports fans.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Monday NFL Headlines

• Joe Burrow Injury: Dan reports breaking news that Joe Burrow will be out for “at least three months” due to toe surgery, referencing Adam Schefter ([03:25]).
• Kansas City Chiefs’ 0-2 Start: Roundtable discusses the Chiefs’ surprising back-to-back losses, offensive struggles, and Mahomes’ missed opportunities ([05:00-06:49]).
  • Dan: “If they get into the playoffs, that’s it...all you want to do is get in. Because once you get in, you have the best closer in football.”
• Philadelphia Eagles & The Tush Push: Dan analyzes Dean Blandino’s frustration with officiating the infamous Tush Push, suggesting the play’s days may be numbered ([06:49-08:54]):
  • “This is the excuse that is going to be made for the NFL to get rid of the tush push because you’re going to say we just can’t officiate it.”
• Margin of Error for Top Teams: Dan points out Chiefs games previously won with slim margins now slipping away, indicating league parity.

2. The "Tush Push" Controversy

• Team Reactions:
  • Seaton: “This was the first time that I watched an Eagles game where I was like, alright, I’m kind of sick of this play...enough with this.” ([08:54])
  • Paulie references Tom Brady questioning how officials actually mark the spot, noting a lack of transparency ([15:57-16:24]).
• Fairness & Aesthetics:
  • Dan and team debate whether to outlaw a play simply because one team executes it better.
    • Dan: “At some point you do have to acknowledge that they figured out the system, that these kickers are really, really good.”
  • Todd: “Much like the Tush Push...find a way to stop it or get better at it on offense.”
  • Seaton: “I’m more interested in a neutral’s opinion at this point...man, was it boring to watch.”
• Officiating Challenge: The lack of injury data leaves the NFL searching for another reason to ban the play, with officials now saying it’s impossible to call fairly.

3. Fans’ Best and Worst of the Weekend

• Fun, rapid-fire calls and roundtable:
  • Bests: Dodgers’ win at Oracle Park, Russel Wilson’s deep ball success, Cam Bynum’s celebration, Cal Raleigh’s historic home run tying Mickey Mantle ([09:39-10:46]).
  • Worsts: Giants’ penalties, Chiefs’ loss, the tediousness of the Tush Push, egregious calls.

4. Special Teams and Kicking Game

• Dan: “You know...kickers are so good now we want to change the rules.”
• Callers and studio debate whether to lengthen end zones or alter the game for kickers’ booming field goals.
• Bill Cowher (later in episode): Notes special teams and kickers’ outsized impact in early season outcomes.

5. Tom Brady as a Analyst

• Dan critiques Brady’s TV efforts, arguing ex-players can “over prepare,” pushing information instead of being naturally insightful ([16:24]).
  • “Nobody is going to question Tom’s football acumen, but it’s do you sound natural? Are you letting the game come to you?”

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Feature Interview: Bill Cowher

Starts: [23:58]

Coaching Early in the Season

• Perspective on September: Cowher echoes Bill Belichick’s “September as preseason” mentality—use the first month to gather info, tweak the system, and not panic.
  • “It’s been an exciting first two weeks, no question about it.” ([23:58])
  • “I really wanted to know what we couldn’t do more than what we could do.”
• September goals: Go .500 or better, but avoid peaking early—best football should be played late ([24:52-26:16]).

On the Steelers & NFL Learning Curves

• Cites “teaching moments” like a rookie’s kickoff blunder, comparing it to a Plexico Burress incident in 2000. Emphasizes learning from early miscues ([26:16-28:40]).

The Challenge of Coaching Under a Spotlight

• Intensity & Awareness: Cowher was animated/emotional and strategic about when to be calm or “the storm” on the sideline ([28:40-30:11]).
  • “Sometimes I needed to be the storm. I felt like we’re sleepwalking out there—I’m going to start getting to people’s faces.”

The Tush Push—Direct Criticism

• Cowher: Outspoken opposition—“It’s not a football play. It’s a scrum...they eliminated it in rugby because it wasn’t a safe play but we keep it in the NFL.” ([30:34])
  • Worried about injuries, thinks it’s unsightly and unstrategic.
  • “We gotta wait for some kind of catastrophic injury to change it?”
  • “If you want to do the quarterback sneak, do what Bart Starr did. I’m not taking away the quarterback sneak—love the quarterback sneak—but not the tush push. Come on.”
• On Officials' Struggles: Sides with Blandino and Dan that the NFL may use the challenge of officiating as justification to outlaw the play ([32:05-32:40]).
  • “When do you stop the push? It makes it very hard for officials to understand...at what point is the play over?”

Rule Fairness and Play Aesthetics

• Rails against offsides, leverage calls, and how certain advantages (pushing on offense) aren’t reciprocal on defense ([34:09-34:58]).
• On the Broncos’ “leverage” penalty: Agrees it’s a correct call, but very harsh at 15 yards.

On the Bengals' Dilemma

• With Joe Burrow out: “Jake Browning is going to be the guy right now, but Kirk Cousins might be a better fit if the Bengals want to stay ‘all in’ this year.” ([35:05-36:32])

Rivalry Nostalgia & Coaching Emotions

• Reminisces about deep-rooted NFL coaching rivalries (Harbaugh-Carroll, Cowher-Billick), getting playfully riled up discussing his animosity against the Ravens and coach Brian Billick ([36:44-38:30]).

Notable Quotes

• Bill Cowher:
  • “It’s not a strategical play. Football is a game of strategy...I’m not trying to get rid of the quarterback sneak...but not the tush push. Come on.” ([31:46])
  • On coaching style: “Sometimes I needed to be the storm. I felt like we were sleepwalking out there.” ([28:56])
  • “I just think it’s a dangerous play. I know there’s not been any data to support that, but I don’t even think it’s a good looking play.” ([31:00])
• Dan Patrick:
  • “The margin of error...You win those games, then all of a sudden you’re not.” ([05:07])
  • “At some point you have to acknowledge they figured out the system, these kickers are really, really good.” ([13:27])
  • On Tom Brady’s analysis: “Don’t cram things in. Just give me an honest opinion of you and all your experience.” ([16:24])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:25]: NFL headlines, Burrow injury news
• [05:00-06:49]: Chiefs' loss to Eagles, Mahomes' struggles
• [06:49-09:18]: The Tush Push controversy and officiating challenges
• [09:39-13:27]: Fan calls: Best and worst of the weekend
• [13:27-15:04]: Debate about changing kicking rules
• [15:57-16:24]: Tom Brady’s TV analysis critiqued
• [23:58]: Bill Cowher interview begins
• [30:34]: Cowher on Tush Push: “Not a football play. It’s a scrum.”
• [35:05]: Bengals’ QB situation post-Burrow injury
• [36:44]: NFL coaching rivalries, emotion on the sidelines
• [46:16]: Poll results: Worst weekend in college football
• [46:40-49:06]: Roundtable: Best/worst of the weekend
• [49:06-53:10]: More fan calls, technology in officiating

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• Dean Blandino’s honest TV moment: “I can’t officiate this anymore” (paraphrased by Dan)—used as a springboard to discuss how the league may address the Tush Push.
• Cowher’s passion: Goes from thoughtful analyst to animated ex-coach, particularly when recalling the Steelers-Ravens rivalry:
  • Dan: "Did you not like Brian Billick?"
  • Cowher: "Well, he was a part of the Baltimore Ravens. I’m just saying." ([37:44])
• Rich player/fan anecdotes: Call-ins recalling Wheel of Punishment, Cam Bynum’s end-zone dance, and an encounter with broadcasting legend Doc Emrick.

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Original Language and Tone

Authentic, conversational, and lively—Dan and the Danettes blend analysis, banter, and listener participation. Cowher’s blunt, old-school NFL tone rings through, while fan callers bring humor and passion.

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Summary Table: Poll Results (46:16)

| Poll Question | Winner | Notes | |-----------------------------------------|--------------|-----------------------------| | Worst weekend in CFB | UCLA | Edged out Clemson | | NFL Tush Push opinion (studio) | Boring/ban | Most dislike it as neutral |

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Conclusion

Hour 2 of The Dan Patrick Show is a rich tapestry of NFL reactions, rule controversies, coaching wisdom, and fan engagement. Bill Cowher’s guest spot adds gravitas, especially as the debate over the Tush Push intensifies and new injury storylines shape the season. Whether you’re a passionate fan or casual observer, this episode captures the pulse of the NFL, blending expert perspective with accessible, spirited dialogue.

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You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio, Hour two on this Monday. Hope you had a great week. You can tell me about it. Best and worst of the weekend. We'll get to your phone calls. A good weekend. Then it's a bad weekend for the Cincinnati Bengals. They got the win against Jacksonville, but they've lost Joe Burrow. He'll be out for at least three months. He is going to have toe surgery. That According to Adam Schefter 8773-DP-Show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle PShow we'll have a new poll question for the second hour of the program. Hall of Fame coach Bill Cower will stop by in about 20 minutes from now. Merchandise store open and stocked with fresh gear. You can explore it. Check it out. DanPatrick.com Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the DP show. Okay, on Friday, Paulie goes. What do you think the lead story is going to be on Monday? Now we went around the room and I asked everybody what they thought the lead story was going to be. Todd, you I think were first. Do we have that? Marvin okay, here we go. What will be the lead story on Monday? Let's go around the room. Lead story Todd the demise of the.

[Todd Fuhrman]

Alabama Crimson Tide as the Badgers shock Bama.

[Dan Patrick]

They're 21 point favorites against Wisconsin.

[Seaton]

Seaton Sunday night football is the Falcons versus the Vikings. I'm not mistaken. Yeah, I think it's going to be. Are The Vikings for real?

[Dan Patrick]

20 okay. Situation Marvin the lead story the super.

[Todd Fuhrman]

Bowl rematch Eagles beat the Chiefs on the road.

[Paulie]

Okay, Paul the Chiefs being 02 and people hot taking it's over for the Chiefs.

[Dan Patrick]

It could be which 02 team has the best chance of making it back to this or making it to the Super Bowl. The Lions or the Chiefs? How about that? All right, so I had the Chiefs losing with the Lions blowing out the Chicago Bears. And if I'm looking at the Chiefs and I'm, I'm just being unbiased with it, I thought Philadelphia was a better team. I thought Kansas City had moments there. It just, you know, there was a throw there where Mahomes had a receiver who was 20 yards in front of everybody and missed him. Now he came back and he did get another touchdown pass. But the margin of error, you know, the, the, the Chiefs would win these games last year, like the Commanders won these games last year. The margin of error, you know, it's two points, it's three points, and you win those games, then all of a sudden you're not. And I think that's what. You got to factor that in. That. Yes. Come, you know, games on the line, you're down three or you're down two, down four, Mahomes is going to lead you until he doesn't lead you. And against a really good team that was favored in your building. And now Kansas City is 0 and 2. Here's Patrick Mahomes on the loss.

[Marvin]

So obviously we've never been 0 and 2, but we've had times where we've dealt with challenges before in lost games. And so I think the guys that we have in this locker room, they'll go back to work with that mindset of we're going to continue to work even harder so that when we step on that field this next time, we can find a way to win in those big moments like we have at this first two weeks.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, if they get into the playoffs, that's it. I mean, that's all you're. If you're a Kansas City Chiefs fan, maybe you don't win the division, but all you want to do is get in. Because once you get in, you have the best closer in football. But for the Eagles, not a pretty game. But it doesn't matter. Like, you'll take an ugly loss, especially on the road. And I mentioned this pretty much to start the show. What surprised me was Dean Blandino, who used to be the head of officials, now works for Fox. He says, I'm done with the Tush push. I wait. Your job is still to analyze the Tush push. It's. He said, I can't officiate this anymore. Well, he doesn't have to officiate this. He has to observe the officiating on the play. But the fact that he says, I'm I'm out on this. I can't officiate. I get it. But that to me will be, this is the excuse that is going to be made for the NFL to get rid of the tush push because you're going to say we just can't officiate it. As far as, you know, did somebody jump offside? Somebody in the neutral zone? There were a couple of, you know, they jumped the gun. They were offsides a couple of times, the Eagles. But then I'm going to assume the Chiefs were in the new. Like, you know, you're trying to officiate this. And I think that might be the out because it used to be, according to my source, they were just gathering data. They were looking, do we have injuries? Do we have anything to back this up? And they didn't. Therefore, you know, when Jeffrey Lurie, the Eagles owner, is talking to these other, you know, owners, it's like, wait a minute, like, there's no injury data here. It's just, we do it better than anybody else. And that is true. Everybody else can do this, but they do it better than anybody else. That surprised me because that was a. A real honest moment by Dean Blandino. Almost as if to say, I. I'm going to throw my hands up. I have no idea how to call this. Yes, Eaton.

[Seaton]

This was the first time that I watched an Eagles game where I was like, all right, I'm kind of sick of this play. It seemed to be like, every third or fourth down, I was like, all right, here they go, lining up. You don't get it on third, get it on fourth. It just was kind of like, all right, this is stupid. And that plays never bothered me before. But watching it this weekend, I was kind of like, God, enough with this.

[Dan Patrick]

Dean Blandino will join us on the program tomorrow. 8, 7, 7, 3, DP. Show operator Tyler sitting by. He'll take your phone calls. Bill Cower will join us coming up. And once again, Joe Burrow is out for three months, at least. Toe surgery. Buddha in San Francisco. Welcome back, Buddha.

[Marvin]

What up, DP? Happy Monday, boys. Keep your head up. 50. Well, DP America took an L yesterday when Brandon Aubrey hit that field goal for a choppy Dallas win. And Dan, guys, I had a wild, deep cut reminder yesterday. Watching the Bengals game, I saw a guy in the stands with a Bengal tiger face paint, and I immediately thought of Seaton. When you guys were talking about the Wheel of Punishment last week, I remember the time Seaton had to paint his face and roar before. Every time he Spoke for an entire show that was epic. But best of the weekend, Dan. Going to a day game yesterday, a beautiful Oracle park, and watching my Dodgers beat up on the Giganticos. Always entertaining. Sitting in the stands for that. And double best or dp. The interception celebration by DB Cam Bynum. And tucks the ball underneath his shirt and doing the belly dance with Blue, the Colts mascot. And me and Marvin's Niners winning on the road again and getting an Alabama version of Mac Jones roll tie.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. Thank you, Buddha. By the way, Cal Raleigh hit his 54th home run of the season. He ties Mickey Mantle for the most home runs by a switch hit in baseball history. Brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show. You know, Russell Wilson can still throw as good a deep ball as anybody in the NFL. And that was evident. Seven of his 11 deep passes, at least 20 yards or more. He completed for 265 yards and three touchdowns. Did have the one interception for everybody who said he can't play. And then you saw him yesterday. Maybe he's somewhere in between. Is he a great quarterback? Not anymore. Does he have moments? Yes. I would keep him in there for at least two more games. I know everybody wants new fresh put in Jackson dart. Let Russia kind of figure out or help figure out who this team is. They're a little better than you thought yesterday. Dallas's defense might be a little worse than you thought, but Russ can still throw the deep ball. Yes, Marvin, about five years ago you.

[Todd Fuhrman]

Would have said, let Russ Cook. You were like, let Russ just kind of try his best.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Seaton]

Yeah, it's okay.

[Dan Patrick]

Uber eats, you know. Chris in Syracuse. Hi, Chris. What's on your mind?

[Marvin]

Hey, thanks, Dan. Thanks for getting me in. I got a best and worst for you. My best. Brandon Aubrey. That 64 yard field goal, it did. It looked like it could have gone 70 yards. And I know in sports sometimes you have to modify the rules a little bit. They did it for Gretzky and hockey and not just Brandon Aubrey in the NFL, but the, the. A lot of kickers are kicking the ball so much longer now. And I was thinking one thing that they could do, make the end zones instead of 10 yards, make them 15 yards. That'll add 5 yards onto the field goal. And think about when you're in the red zone for offenses, that extra five yards is going to expand your playbook. They're going to get way more Touchdowns as opposed to short field goals. And my worst to the Giants. All those penalties and a couple of more bad calls. And one of them in particular, the Giants defender had Dak in his hand taking him to the ground. And then he does exactly what the NFL has been imploring the players to do. The defender turned himself on his side and did not put any pressure on Dak as he went down. And it wasn't a late hit and he still got flagged. I mean, trying to play aggressive defense in today's NFL has to be so challenging.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Chris. Yeah, you're watching kickers, but. But here we are again. That they're doing it so well now we want to change the rules. Like, is that fair to somebody who, hey, you know that that guy keeps hit. Aaron Judge keeps hitting home runs. That's not fair. Hey, imagine if we outlawed Peyton Manning changing plays at the line of scrimmage. Hey, he does it better than everybody. Like, at some point you have to be respectful to the, hey, Steph Curry, you're making too many threes. You're too good at that. Kareem, no more sky hook. At some point, you do have to acknowledge that they figured out the system, that these kickers are really, really good. Now, aesthetically, the NFL does not like this. They, they don't want the games. But if it comes down to a kick from 60 yards out, to me, that's exciting. Now, do I like somebody having eight field goals in a game? No. But if you're really good at it, you're a weapon. And I gotta be fair to you. It's like, Shaq's too big now. He can't play. I remember playing peewee football and there was a kid who was too big, he couldn't play. I'm like, damn, he's too. He's not allowed to play because he's too big.

[Todd Fuhrman]

Yes, Todd, but much like the Tush Push now, you guys can find a way to stop it or get better at it on offense. You find yourself a kicker that can consistently kick 55, 60 yard field goals. That's the only way to counteract it. Don't ban it or anything.

[Dan Patrick]

Are you okay with the Tush Push?

[Todd Fuhrman]

I don't love the aesthetics of it. And if Denver was doing it successfully, I would love it. So I, you know, that's what they're doing. I don't think there's anything illegal about it. Find a way to stop it or make sure your team can do it too.

[Dan Patrick]

Every NFL fan base would be fine with It. If their team was doing it. If they were doing it well, they would be fine with this. I don't. Look, it's not the most exciting play, but it is football. It's me lining up against you. I think the NFL has its out and that is. We can't officiate this. Yes.

[Seaton]

Yeah. Like, I think as a neutral, I'm more interested in a neutrals opinion of the tush push at this point because I'm neutral. I really couldn't care less. The Eagles do, but man, was it boring to watch.

[Dan Patrick]

It really.

[Seaton]

Was it really. I don't know why this weekend it really got under my skin.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, Paulie.

[Paulie]

Tom Brady had a good point when he was talking about it. When the Eagles tried on one play and they didn't make it, they were discussing how they spot the ball. And Tom goes, well, the officials come in from the side and they're still eyeballing the spot. And then it becomes measured by the computer. There's no chip in the ball. And then Tom goes, so how do they spot it? Because they show them running in. You can't see Jalen hurts. There's no visual on. Jalen hurts. And Tom goes. They're judging the pile.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

If the pile didn't move, they keep the ball where it is. If it moves, you get a first down.

[Dan Patrick]

By the way, Tom had a good game and, and I know I've been critical of him, but I'm only critical because I, I've been around this for a long, long time and sometimes you can see somebody over prepares and I was told that he, he hired a stat person to give him all this information. And sometimes you're not just letting the game come to you, you. And that's what he needs to do. Just let the game come to you. And then if you can use these resources, great. But don't cram things in. Just give me an honest opinion of you and all your experience. And he's better. He's better this year, but he should be. I mean, this isn't about football knowledge. It's understanding tv. And this is lost on a lot of analysts. They're like, oh, I know football. I go, okay, but you know football and how you can fit it into a TV game and the time that you have and making sure that you don't go too long so the play by play guy doesn't have time to be able to accurately set up the play. Get in, get out. What do you see? Are you seeing something nobody else is seeing? What? Why did that happen. Why didn't that happen? I mean, that's really what this is about. Nobody is going to question Tom's football acumen, but it's do you sound natural? Are you letting the game come to you? Are you trying to force things? Are you trying to be overly prepared? And yes, you can be overly prepared. And I think Tom, it feels like, is settling back in and just relaxing a little bit. It's just like playing quarterback. I got. I'm going to try to do 15 different things. No, simplify it. And I would say the same thing to any analyst, not just Tom. Simplify it. You'll be better. All right, we'll take a break. Bill Cower set to join us? What's he think of the Tush push? And does he agree that maybe the NFL now has an out where they can in the off season? Say we just can't officiate this accurately anymore. We'll take a break. Back after this. Dan Patrick Show Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's me, Rob Parker. Check out my weekly MLB podcast, Inside The Parker, for 22 minutes of piping hot baseball talk featuring the biggest names and newsmakers in the sport. Whether you believe in analytics or the eye test, we've got all the bases covered. New episodes drop every Thursday, so do yourself a favor and listen to Inside the Parker with Rob Parker on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast.

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[Bill Cowher]

Well, you can't. Then I think the biggest thing you do is just kind of gain information about your football team and trying to find ways to win but constantly adjusting and adapting as you go through the first month because I think, you know, you really don't know what you have. And one thing you have to keep in mind, I think now the way people are approaching the preseason, the really first game you're going to see these guys play a whole game is last week. And so now you have the second week where now you get a little bit probably more sore. So you're prepping for this. So I always thought that first month is of trying to kind of get a gauge for where your football team, your strengths, your flaws and then in the meantime trying to find ways to win games to stay in the hunt in that first month. So if you go 500, I think you're good. Obviously, you know, to a fast start gives you a little bit of leeway. In the middle of a season you hit those inevitable lulls. So but this has been a, it's been an exciting first two weeks, no question about it.

[Dan Patrick]

But it feels like Bill Belichick was given credit for treating September like it was his preseason. Like those first four games. We're going to get everybody, we're going to find out what kind of football team like did you do that as well, that you could look at an entire month and go, then we can figure out who we are?

[Bill Cowher]

Yeah, I really wanted to kind of know what we couldn't do more than what we could do. I mean, because I think there are some things that then you kind of adapt and adjust a philosophy that's around what your strengths are, trying to mask the flaws that you see that show up. You know, you do something one week, is it circumstance, you do something two weeks in a row, it's a trend. You do something that's three weeks in a row, that's potentially a problem or that's a strength. So, I mean, I think that's the biggest thing you're trying to do is understand what it is. But you also don't want to make sure that you have flexibility in your system so you can adapt and adjust to injuries, to who you're playing right now or somebody starts to stand out, you want to get them more involved into the game plan. So it's really a fact finding month to me and at the same time, still finding ways to win games so that you don't fall too far in a hole. And if you're more obviously, if you go three and one, if you can go four. No, that first month, it just gives you some leeway to. As you go down this, like I said before, it's hard to sustain it for four months. You don't want to be playing your best football at the beginning, want to play your best football at the end. But getting off to a fast start really helps.

[Dan Patrick]

How would you assess the Steelers after two games?

[Bill Cowher]

Well, I mean, I think they did a lot of good things in week one. Certainly a tough loss yesterday. I think, you know, it's. Again, I mean, with that offense, there's going to be some mistimage that you saw. I thought it was interesting. You saw a lot of slants of DK Metcalf were behind him in the first week, which means, you know, you know, Aaron's trying to get a gauge for DK this week was a couple were in front of him. So there's that timing element that just takes the game time element of seeing who plays faster, who plays slower. There's some injuries you're going through right now and certainly what happened with Caleb Johnson, I think that the, with the, with the, you know, with the kickoff, it reminds me going back in 2000 and Plexiglil Burris, his first year. I think it was week five. We were playing the Jacksonville Jaguars in Jacksonville Plexigl goes over the middle of the field, catches a dig route, goes to the ground, gets up and spikes the ball. And then he was never touched. They catch the ball. He's wondering why everyone keeps playing and then realize, oh yeah, I'm in the NFL and you know what, you have to tag me down. So thank goodness we were winning like 20. We had a big lead. I'm going to hope that is a great teaching moment for you, I says, because it didn't cost us a game. But just understand in the International Football League, you know, you got, you got to be tagged down. And I think for Caleb Johnson going back there, seeing the ball going over his head, he realized he didn't touch it. It went into the end zone. So it's just going to be a touchback. No, Caleb, it's the NFL. You got to jump on it. So I don't think anyone felt worse about it than he did. It's a teaching moment. It unfortunately came at a very bad time in the game. But, you know, that is kind of the National Football League. I think Mike Tomlin said it yesterday that, you know, the week before they get a fumble on a punt return and they end up going in and scoring and getting the win. And yesterday they have a blunder and a kicking game again. And so the kicking game, I thought these first two weeks have been very instrumental in football games. And you're starting to see the kickoff now coming back into play. So in the past, I think we probably have kept players because we weren't thinking about special teams, not much coverage. Well, you start got to start thinking about it right now in the kickers, we see them miss extra points. Then we see a 64 yarder at the end of regulation, followed up by another one at the end of Hoover time. So the kicking game has played a big part these first two weeks.

[Dan Patrick]

How aware are you in the moment of yelling at a player? When you know everything's televised, there's a camera on you constantly. But you know, you saw this in the Jacksonville game yesterday with coach and quarterback, when you coached, how aware were you?

[Bill Cowher]

I don't think I didn't want to be aware. It's an emotional game. I think the biggest thing they understood with me is I wanted to be able to address it at the moment. And if I felt at times that I need to be the calm and storm, which means there's too much hecticness going around, I was to calm, but sometimes I needed to be the storm. I felt like we're sleepwalking out there. I'm going to start getting to people's faces and start waking them up. I said because so it really is to me that job of the head coach to kind of gauge where your football team is and I think at the same time know who the players are. There are some guys that think it's okay to jump offside. No, it's not okay. I'll never be okay. A pre snap penalty me is a lack of focus that you have on your football team and that's totally unacceptable. You know, and taking care of the football sometimes it those things happen. We see more punch outs now. I talked about that yesterday in our show is, you know, the peanut punch, the Charles Tillman punch out has become very instrumental. And so protecting the football in space is very, very critical. Protecting the football overall is critical. Pre snap penalties, unacceptable. So I think it's who you are with your, who you're with. But also if you're going to yell at that person, make sure you pat them on the back too when they play to have a good place. I just think. And make sure they know where they stand with you and you make sure you know where you stand with them and make sure you know who the player is.

[Dan Patrick]

Bill Cower, hall of Famer and analyst for the NFL today on cbs. The tush push prominent yesterday and I don't know if you've changed your opinion one way or another, but I brought up that Dean Blandino during the broadcast said that he's given up on this. He doesn't know how you can officiate this play. Your thoughts?

[Bill Cowher]

Well, oh, I, I've been against the play for two years and I've made my feelings quite known. It's not a, it's not a football play. It's. It's a scru, you know, and they had that rugby Dan. You know what they did in rugby? They eliminated the scrum. They took it out because it wasn't a safe play. But we keep it in the NFL. Makes, makes sense of that one. They got rid of it because he is. So we have to wait for some kind of catastrophic injury to change it. I don't think it's a good looking play. I know that Philadelphia is good at it has nothing to do with the Philadelphia Eagles for me. But you know, I think you saw that play yesterday and how many times do we see a with because of our technology today that they're leaving before the ball's even snapped. So I mean, I don't know how we can somehow look at that play and understand that it's an injury waiting to happen. I think personally, and it doesn't even have good looking play pushing people down the field. When do you stop the push? And I think it makes it very hard for officials to understand, you know, at what point is to play over with, with, with this play. So I don't know. So I just, I feel like it's, we're going to have to get more information. It was 2 vot away from being eliminated in the league meeting a year ago. We'll see where it is a year from now. But I, I just, I mean, I think it's a dangerous play. I know there's not been any data to support that, but I don't even think it's a good looking play. Listen, you want to do the quarterback sneak. Doesn't do what Bart Starr did with Jerry Kramer. Run over your good offensive lineman on a frozen tundra. I'm not taking away the quarterback sneak. Love the quarterback sneak, but not the tush push. Come on.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I think Philadelphia would still be almost as successful given Jalen hurts. There's no quarterback built like Jalen hurts. I don't like the people behind Jalen hurts. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't like that aspect of it. But I do think there's an out though, coach, and that is that you can't officiate this. You know, you're, you're right. There's somebody in the neutral zone. Did somebody jump? Like there's so much. Where do you spot the ball? There, there, there's language in here now that I think because you don't have the injury data now the NFL can say we just can't officiate this correctly.

[Bill Cowher]

I don't, I. Listen, please go on the platform. I'm support you 100%. I agree with you on multiple levels. And I'll go back to another thing, Dan. I think I go say this. When is it, when is a scrum over and not take that scrum down the field? And now you're going to get players who are so used to pushing the other players when you're in space. That is a safety issue that's involved with that as well. So I mean, pushing players, why can't we push on defense? Why is it just the offensive guys get to push? I mean, so it's almost an unfair legality to the play like this. So I mean, it's just, it's so one sided. It's not a pretty play. It's not a strategical play at all either. I think football is a game of strategy. And I. Again, I'm not trying to get rid of the quarterback sneaking. There's a certain heart to the quarterback sneak. And I agree with you. Jalen hurts to be good at it. He takes a step back. He's always having a feel for where they try to sit there and take away this gap. He'll take it one gap wider. And so there is an art. I mean, we talk. We used to practice quarterback sneak all the time with Cordell Stewart, with Ben Roethlisberger, a big guy. And so there's a degree of hesitancy that you have to have with the quarterback sneak, but to have guys push you from behind and get that lineup that we saw yesterday, like a V formation, like a flock of geese getting ready to take off, going south or something. I don't know. It just. It's just. It's just. I don't know. I don't like the look of it. I don't think it's a safe play, and I don't think it's strategic in any manner.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, you had the Broncos, they got penalized for leverage yesterday on. On that field goal. They're not allowed to push up the middle. And I get. I know that's a tough penalty to call.

[Bill Cowher]

It's a tough penalty to call. It was the correct call. And again, you look at some of these things that are being done at that time, I mean, it's a game that was won, literally taken away from them just because of an oversight. I mean, right. Really. Here's a guy who never even made a 60 yarder. So you're going out there. He's already beyond what his. He's never made one that far. So why even put yourself in that situation where you'd even have it to be misinterpreted? So, you know, again, I'm sure that's one Sean probably feels like he would have had back to his. You know, and they get kid and. And not just the penalty itself, but 15 yards.

[Dan Patrick]

I know.

[Bill Cowher]

I mean, okay. I mean, I leverage like that. Come on. Maybe five yards. Okay. Least 15 yards is pretty severe.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm wondering if you're the Bengals with Joe Burrow now out for three months. Do you reach out to the Falcons for Kirk Cousins? Would you reach out to Derek Carr, who last week said on the show not officially retired, if somebody called him, maybe. But at what point do you go, is Jake Browning good enough with the Bengals, or did we go out and get a better quarterback.

[Bill Cowher]

Oh, I think Jake Browning is, is going to be the guy right now. But I agree with you. I think Kirk Cousins, I watched him last night sitting there with Michael Penix where he's at, and I know that, you know, having him as a backup right now for the Falcons is something that you may have to give up something. But listen, I think the Cincinnati Bengals said they're all in. They were all in when they signed T. Higgins. They're all in when he made that deal with Trey Hendrickson to get him to come in to play this year. He's played his butt off his first two weeks. So I just think they have to look at a backup plan. I think Nate Browning is a guy, he knows that offense. Zach Taylo I think has done a great job with his team getting them ready to play these first two weeks. But you know, three months is a long period of time and I would hate to jeopardize that not having a quality backup behind it. So I don't know where Derek Carr is with his shoulder. I think, as you mentioned, I think the best guy out there right now is a guy like Kirk Cousins because I think he is now year moved from his injury. He looked like a guy who's very antsy to play on that sideline. Last night he was watching Michael Pennington, man, he's like, you know, that's my ex team out there, so that'd be a guy that I would have on my radar.

[Dan Patrick]

Good to talk to you. I didn't get you fired up this Monday like I had before.

[Bill Cowher]

No, no, no, no. You, you, you always get me fired up. I was fired up to come on here and we didn't even talk about the games tonight. I wanted to talk. I mean, let's just talk about one second.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay?

[Bill Cowher]

The, the, the infamous Jim Harbaugh going against Pete Carroll. This goes so far back. Jim Harbaugh was at Stanford, Pete Carroll was at usc. They used to recruit against each other. Then they go to the NFC West. Pete girl goes to Seattle. Jim Harbaugh goes to San Francisco. And they used to compete against each other. And here they are tonight. Here they are, the Vegas going against the Chargers. Winner, first place in AFC West. You got to love this scenario. The game within the game. We're going to have that tonight. And just, just watch those two guys on the sideline. There's a genuine dislike for each other, a genuine respect for each other, but this is deep, deep rooted.

[Dan Patrick]

Did you have one of those rivalries with a coach?

[Bill Cowher]

Oh, I didn't like the Baltimore Ravens when I coached, and that was with Brian Billick.

[Dan Patrick]

Did you not like Brian Billick?

[Bill Cowher]

Well, he was a part of the Baltimore Ravens. I'm just saying.

[Dan Patrick]

That would be a yes.

[Bill Cowher]

I just. It was a.

[Dan Patrick]

He was a Raven, but he was a genius. He was called a genius. You probably were bothered by that, that he was an offensive genius.

[Bill Cowher]

Well, you know, you want to get.

[Dan Patrick]

No, you started this.

[Bill Cowher]

Let's let it go. It's a nice Monday after a lot of good wins. We're not going down this path. That's another day.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. All right.

[Bill Cowher]

We'll. We'll pick up on that.

[Dan Patrick]

Why don't you just take a walk in Central park and cool down a little bit? Okay. Okay.

[Bill Cowher]

All right. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. Thank you. So. I know. I guess I kind of. I guess I kind of brought that coaching thing up, didn't I?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Yes.

[Bill Cowher]

Okay. My bad.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. Thank you, coach. Good to talk to you. That's Bill Keller, hall of Famer, NFL Today on cbs. He goes, that's so funny. I just asked the questions, and then whatever your answer is, I follow up. So it certainly sounded like he didn't like Brian. Bill. All of a sudden, it was like.

[Seaton]

We saw coach again. That wasn't the analyst.

[Dan Patrick]

That was coach we just saw. Fired up. Yeah, fired up. Jeremy in Florida. Hi, Jeremy. What's on your mind today?

[Marvin]

How you doing? Dan Patrick and Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

Hey, Jeremy.

[Marvin]

So going on this push, push thing, this is getting pretty much out of hand. You look at some of those just yesterday, the tush push first for the touchdown. That was a touchdown. They showed the third angle. It was clear. Touchdown. He was on top of two different people. And then when they went for the first down, it was clearly on the third angle that they showed. It was clearly over the line. I mean, almost the whole football length.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. It's. It's tough to officiate. I'm going to take Dean Blandino at his word. He was the head of officials for a long time. He'll join us tomorrow. We can talk about it. But I do think that given this language. Now, now, when Dean Blandino said this wasn't private, this was on the broadcast. I give up. Because he. You can't officiate it. Keith in California. Good morning, Keith. Best and worst of the weekend.

[Marvin]

510 and a 304th time. Long time, Dan. Best of the weekend, Terrence. But Crawford.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Marvin]

Annihilating and annihilating Canelo. But Netflix. The entertainment value was I gotta hit him with the behind. Worst of the weekend, Giants fan. I know, I know. Russell Wilson, 250 yards looking good. But for your morale, no, you still can't lose and win in the NFL. Suck it, train. Do for.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. Thank you, Keith. Yeah. Crawford, man, he connected with one punch. And you could see Canelo almost look like where did that punch come from? That, that wasn't in my preparation there. And he was, it turned him around. His head was almost, you know, like the exorcist just like spun him around. But he, you know, now you're looking at at and he was the better fighter. Now they're looking at his place in history after a fight like that.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paulie, I'm looking at the replay now. It looks like something out of a video game where the body turns all the way around with the head.

[Dan Patrick]

But his reaction, Canelo's reaction was like, wait a minute. What the. That, that wasn't in the scouting report. You know, you see spit coming out. All right, let me take. And he got paid a lot of money. Money in that loss. We'll take a break. We'll bring you our best and worst of the weekend right after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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[Jonas Knox]

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[Dan Patrick]

Results from hour two.

[Seaton]

Seton yeah, we got two poll questions working right now. The Worst of the Weekend who had the worst weekend weekend? College football wise right now, UCLA has just jumped barely ahead of Clemson. That's neck and neck right now. Who had the worst weekend? Tennessee. Coming in very much last there. Nobody's down on Tennessee.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, time for our best and worst of the weekend. Todd, I'll start with you.

[Todd Fuhrman]

Best of the weekend New Mexico graciously accepts a payment of $1.2 million from UCLA to play them Friday night at the Rose Boy. They depart Pasadena with the Bruins money and a victory. Lobos beat them 35 10, outscoring UCLA 21 nothing in the fourth quarter and the Bruins then fire their coach. Worse, other than the Broncos In a 2010 loss to LSU, Florida quarterback D.J. langway throws five picks in Baton Rouge Saturday, including a pick six. Not good.

[Dan Patrick]

Good, but they didn't get blown out. And he throws five interceptions there.

[Seaton]

How's that possible?

[Dan Patrick]

And is that direct deposit from ucla or did they just give one of those big checks that you get at a golf tournament there?

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paul, what if you double down on the embarrassment and make the UCLA AD walk a check over in front of the crowd as they're leaving? Over to the New Mexico guys.

[Dan Patrick]

Seaton Best and worst of the weekend.

[Seaton]

My best of the weekend West Virginia tying the game late, beating Pitt in overtime. Rich Rod is back. Backyard brawl. Let's go. Okay, vamos. My worst of the weekend is actually, we've been talking about it all morning, but just watching the Eagles tush push. I don't mind the Chiefs losing, especially since I'm still riding high on the prediction of them not making the playoffs. Still my big call, but damn, that play got annoying fast.

[Dan Patrick]

Marvin Best and worst of the weekend.

[Todd Fuhrman]

My best of the weekend I'm going to high school football. Poplarville High School Running back Ty Keys. 17 carries, 546 yards, eight touchdowns. He's a four star junior. Worst of the weekend the start time of the Alvarez, Crawford, fight. What time did it start? I don't know because I fell asleep. Stayed up until about 12, and I couldn't do it anymore.

[Dan Patrick]

I think it's midnight, close to midnight or a little after when it. When it started. Paul.

[Paulie]

I'm gonna go with Georgia Tech beating Clemson, Haynes, King and the Crew. He's one of those really good college quarterbacks, does it all. And then I was given to Missouri football. The Tigers are 3. 0. They've had a good run the past six or seven years. They ripped up UL Monroe, the Raging Cajuns. They ran for 427 yards on the Raging Cajuns. And the Raging Cajuns.

[Dan Patrick]

Two completions in the game tonight. The Buccaneers getting two and a half against Texans. Chargers are giving three and a half to my Raiders. Adam in Michigan. Hi, Adam. What's on your mind today?

[Marvin]

Hey, Dan, how's it going?

[Dan Patrick]

Good, Adam.

[Marvin]

Worst. Broncos won and then they didn't. Tough call. Best. I'd like to say Tottenham Arizona Wildcat Football, but no, I had a little story I want to share, if that's okay. Work at a very nice restaurant in the big blue state up north. And Friday night, friend of the show, Mike, Doc Emerick, was dining in with his wife. It's awesome. I heard his voice. Not in my section. I'm new, this is my third day there. So I wait until after they had eaten, came by, said what a huge fan I was. My mom's a retired English teacher, so I'd have her watch games with me and be like, listen to his vocabulary, you know, like nice. Sit on forward dishes on behind spoons. One diverse are on it. Just his vocabulary unmatched. And he asked, he said, do you want a picture? I said, I don't know. I'm new here, you know, might be frowned upon, might get in trouble. He said, no, no, no. Out. My wife will use her phone, take a picture. And if you get in trouble, say Doc insisted. So he did. He took a picture. He sent it to my mom. Just great. And overall, what an amazing, great fellow he is. I know you've interviewed him a couple of months back and love for you to have him back again when hockey season starts to ramp up. And just one of the Mount Rushmores of sports announcers and just humans in the world. Hope you guys have a great week.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Adam. Thank you. Thank you. Doc Emmerich, one of my favorite people, let alone play by play voices. John in Montana, John Tana.

[Marvin]

Hey, good morning, D.P. love the show. Good morning, Danettes just want to give a best and a bester for the, for the weekend. Best was not for AF or for Polly there. Excuse me that Montana came out for the go ahead touchdown beat North Dakota this weekend. That was fantastic. And it was topping it off for my BESTER Being my 40th birthday yesterday and you know, just an overall great weekend of football between the Cowboys coming back to win even though Russell Wilson had 450 plus yards. Broncos losing. I love always seeing that. But also just hopefully kicking off with the bestes with the Tampa Bay winning tonight. So thanks for getting me on today, guys.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, John. Happy birthday. Belated happy birthday, Jake and Buffalo. Hi Jake. Best and worst of the weekend.

[Marvin]

Hey, Dan. Yeah, best is similar to the last caller, obviously the Bills, but then just a really great weekend of games as a whole. Cowboys, Panthers even kept it interesting at the end, so it was fun to have another good week. My worst is this new virtual first down measurement. Nothing obvious came up yesterday, but I'm confused as how like the league talks about how advanced they are and broadcast is talking about all the cameras that they're in to mention measure. And what they're actually measuring is based on the spot of the ball which is determined by the ref that's 20 yards away and marks the ball with the foot. So I'm still confused of the process as a whole.

[Dan Patrick]

I know it, it's, it's not really modern technology. Still goes back and I've been saying this for a long, long time. I'm just, you know, if I'm an official, I'm sort of guessing here. It comes down to inches, you know, as far as when we have these measurements. But, but this is like, you know, he's in the ballpark of where the ball is going to be marked. Smart. Just they'll make more advanced technology in that area, it feels like. But it is a. You know, I think he's kind of in the, you know, he's in the neighborhood. Yeah. Seaton.

[Seaton]

That's why I, I do like the idea that we don't like the technology that we're using now because I like it so much better when a guy just randomly spotted it in a place.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Seaton]

Just felt so, you know, that was accurate.

[Bill Cowher]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

That back in the good old days where you, I don't know, just randomly put here or there. Yes. Yeah. Right. Right in this area. I might be a yard or two off. Yeah. The human element.

[Marvin]

All right.

[Dan Patrick]

Two hours in the books. One more to go. The big news today, Joe Burrow is out for three months. He will need surgery. Is Dean Blandino joining us today?

[Todd Fuhrman]

Todd, that will be tomorrow.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Todd Fuhrman]

He's on a flight back from Kansas City today.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh okay.

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