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Ryan Seacrest
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Jonas Knox
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LaVar Arrington
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Jonas Knox
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Jonas Knox
You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. That's right, it is the Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. He's Levar Arrington. I'm Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys. Uh, you can normally hear us Monday through Friday, 6:00am Eastern Time, 3:00 clock Pacific. We are the show before this show here every single day during the week alongside Brady Quinn, who is not with us. But it'll be sticks and I taking you all the way up until noon Eastern Time, 9am Pacific, here on Fox Sports Radio. And, you know, some people have said, are you guys, you know, what is this, like a Memorial Day takeover of the Dan Patrick Show? I mean, kind of, I guess. I mean, that's what our. That's what our job is here. That's what our duty is. And apparently there's another takeover that's happening and it's the NFL continuing their takeover. And the takeover is holiday and holiday action and holiday action when there happens to be another league who's had that holiday all to themselves for several, several years now. So much so that Jason Kelsey was on his New Heights podcast talking about how he's a fan of the NFL playing on Christmas and on these major holidays and had this to say.
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LaVar Arrington
I'm also just a fan of playing on more prime time times. Like, that's when I'm watching TV and I like it when football's on the television. So let's keep putting good football games on television when everybody's watching. I mean, I think it's just good for the game. Keep taking over all the holidays, we're taking over Thanksgiving, Christmas, NBA. You're never getting that back. I mean, it's. It's the way it is.
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Jonas Knox
And he's 100% correct.
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LaVar Arrington
He ain't lying.
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Jonas Knox
They're never getting it back. Yeah, like, once The NFL realized, I'll wait, like this is doable. Yeah, we're going to go ahead and take that too. And then it, you know, became one game and two games and three and it's just this is where we are. And I don't know what the plan would be for the NBA, but if you're the NFL. And by the way, for those of you wondering, well, it's just because it, you know, Christmas falls on certain days of the week. No, it's over because Christmas is a Thursday this year, a Friday the year after, a Saturday after that a Sunday, a month. Like it's going to be a long ass time before anybody can make the argument that, well, depending on the day of the week it falls, it's not great for the schedule and the players. The NFL is going to take this over and it's going to be theirs moving forward.
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LaVar Arrington
I mean, what else is there to say? You know, Kelsey nailed it. And, and I think you, you, you put a bow on it if it's good football. And listen, I look at it like this. During, during the holiday season, the one thing that you get yourself set for during Christmas time, pre Christmas, post Christmas and, and New year is college football. So if we're being honest, I don't think about the NBA on Christmas, maybe Christmas day, you're right. But I don't think about the NBA. I think about college football and I think about bowl games. And now that you had the playoff, it now makes it even more intensified getting into that, that corridor of, of the year coming to an end and rounding it out by having, you know, Christmas and then New Year's. So if you're putting on a quality football game from the National Football League and that's on on Christmas day. Hell, if you put two, three games on on Christmas day that are quality matchups of the National Football League, I can guarantee, you guarantee that you're going to have a tremendously large viewing audience of those games that are taking place.
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Jonas Knox
Totally agree. Yeah, I, I, I, and I look at it and I go, if you're the NBA, I mean, what do you do?
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LaVar Arrington
You just keep trying to, to chuck along, you know, chuck them up like, like Carl Anthony Towns and hope something goes in.
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Jonas Knox
It just, you know, like for example, you know, the, the Christmas schedule for the NFL coming up this year, Cowboys Commanders, Lions, Vikings, Broncos, Chiefs, like all of those are compelling matches.
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LaVar Arrington
I watch all three.
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Jonas Knox
Every single one.
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LaVar Arrington
Anything else, every single one there would have to be a dope ass bowl game on. And that game I would Even be switching in and out to all the games depending on what the times that are are playing.
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Jonas Knox
And I'll be honest with you, if you like, who do you think the two worst teams in the NFL are going to be this year? Like if you, if you had to right now? Guess.
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LaVar Arrington
The Saints.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah.
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LaVar Arrington
And maybe the Browns.
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Jonas Knox
Okay, if the Saints and the Browns are playing on Christmas, are you watching that? Or an NBA game? I'm watching the NFL game. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Just I.
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LaVar Arrington
I don't know. It depends on really. Give me the matchup of the NBA game. Give me the match over the NBA game. Then give me what best case scenario.
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Jonas Knox
I mean, look, I mean if you wanted, you know, best case scenario, you know, maybe it would be a, you know, a Thunder Celtics matchup or no, I mean Tatum's going to be out for majority of the year. So let's say Thunder Pacers, NBA Finals rematch. I'm watching rematch. I'm watching Saints Browns.
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LaVar Arrington
I'm watching the Saints Browns.
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Jonas Knox
It's.
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LaVar Arrington
It sounds more interesting. It sounds more intriguing. What, what's at stake in December for the NBA? For them NBA games?
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Jonas Knox
Nothing.
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LaVar Arrington
What's at stake? I mean we're, we're heading into June, you know what I mean? Like we're heading into June and basketball NBA season is still going. I don't see there being enough importance to. You don't. Again, I don't believe the NBA has a player right now or players outside of you being a avid NBA fan, avid sports fan. I do not believe the NBA has the type of player that can drive the viewership the way that you've had it in, in decades, past, generations past.
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Jonas Knox
Let me, let me paint this scenario for you. All right? Just imagine the NBA to counter program does that rematch of the NBA Finals and it is Pacers and Thunder and the NFL. Just this is example. This is not the matchup, but this is the worst. If you had to pick the two worst teams in the league and the NFL rolls out Tyler Schuck versus Dylan Gabriel and would do better numbers than the NBA showing a rematch of the Finals.
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LaVar Arrington
But I think it classically comes back to the way the popularity has been grown and the way the popularity has been built 100%. The National Football League has always made it a point to make the shield the most important branding that takes place. Not to mention guys wear helmets. So you can look at a matchup but you'll ultimately find the reasons why that is an intriguing matchup. Even if it's two trash Teams and it's also because the NFL doesn't play nearly as many games as the NBA. So it's almost these days, which is one of the best things that the NFL could have ever done is these days they've made every game matter more and they're continuing to figure out ways to reward the teams that take every single game and every single week take it seriously, like, you know, you're not sitting there like ah, you know, well, there's more games to be played. We, we will be fine. It's almost taking on the same type of characteristics in some ways in regard as, as college football. And that's the reason why we love college football so much, historically speaking, of course, is that you couldn't lose if you lost. That meant that your season was in jeopardy jeopardy after one loss. Now you can lose one, maybe even two games and get into the College Football Playoff and who knows what happens there. We had a two loss team win the championship this year, correct?
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Jonas Knox
Yeah.
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LaVar Arrington
Yeah. So at the end of the day, I think that there's a level of, of intensity and the Shield does an excellent job of creating this intensity and passion for consumption of, of the talent that's going out there on the days that they're playing. And you're right, you only get so much time with the game. Like people be going through and I'm one of them. We be going through like, like postseason, like fallout, like, like withdrawal like I, I did. I love the fact that the players get an opportunity to play in the UFL and try to make it into the NFL. It does not quench my thirst for football, NFL, college. It does not. It still feels like there is a departure from what life should be like when football season is not here. And to be, to have been able to create that type of buy in from a consumer, man, that's an ultimate product. And it's very hard, it's very hard to fight your way back from, from that typ of established fandom and viewership and buy in to a, a particular league, a particular sport.
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Jonas Knox
So there's this old saying that nobody cares about your fantasy football team. Like it just in, in general when, when people start complaining about their fantasy football team, it's what like man, nobody cares. I, I don't want to hear about your fantasy team. You know who does care about your fantasy team? The NFL. Because I think fantasy football is as much to do with this as anything because it's basically gambling. And it was the, the, I guess the, the show before the gambling show started. Was fantasy football. So that was sort of your appetizer to get you into what gambling could look like in the NFL. These games late in the season like that on a Christmas, you could look at a Saints Browns matchup just for example. That's not going to be the matchup because the NFL realizes those teams are terrible. That's why New Orleans and, and Cleveland don't have a primetime game. But you could set that game up and there's going to be an audience because somebody's going to have a player from one of those teams on their fantasy team. Somebody's going to have money invested in it. They've just done more to make the sport presentable and interesting to people even if they don't have a team. And we've talked about this before. You and I grew up, it was like you had to have a team who's your team. And now and you've made the point because of fantasy football. It isn't about that. Your team is your fantasy team. Yeah, like, like, listen, that' cool. You know, so and so plays for this team. Like he's not on my team. That's what's important. And I think the NFL recognize that. And the NFL's taking advantage of that. And I think fantasy football and gambling is the biggest reason why they've just continued to take over. Because you could put any matchup you wanted on encounter the NBA's matchup, whatever it is, whatever interesting storyline the NBA thinks they have. More people are going to watch the NFL because the NFL has done a better job of making their product and their league presentable and interesting to. To the consumer. And that's why they've seen the spike.
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LaVar Arrington
In the numbers and there nothing you can do about it. You don't have a Michael Jordan that can combat a Walter Payton. You don't have a Shaquille o' Neal that can combat a Ray Lewis. You. You don't have a Kobe Bryant that can combat a Peyton Manning. You don't. You don't have the star power. And that's no shade, I promise. That's no shade towards, towards the, you know, SGAs or the Anthony Edwards in the league, the Jason Tatums or whoever else you have as the Giannis or the Yokages. It's no shade, I promise. They just don't have the draw that a Shaquille o' Neal had. You had an opportunity with Shaq. You had an opportunity with Kobe. You had an opportunity with MJ and Scotty Pippen and even the Mailman, like by by market. You know, Magic Johnson, you had the opportunities to have a captive audience and a large, tremendously passionate viewing audience when you develop those brands. But you're, you're at the risk of having strong branded players in the NBA versus a strong brand, the Shield, that continues to prove that even if Peyton Manning leaves, even if Tom Brady leaves, even if any of the best of the best players that play in the National Football League retire and are done, this league just continues to grow more and more and more and they're finding more ways to, to expand and they build that off of the brand of the Shield. And that might have been the best asset created by the NFL owners. And, and, and what we've watched Paul Tagliabu start and, and, and have watched Roger Goodell continue to grow and build. It's just, it's, they have created something so strong that they continue to widen the gap between other sports, at least domestically.
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Jonas Knox
And also to your point on Goodell, I don't think he gets enough credit because a lot of it's, you know, it's the cool thing to do, boo the commissioner. Like, you know, like the cool thing to do is boo the commissioner. You know, when, when Gary Bettman comes out on the ice, they boom. In the NHL, you know, like Rob Manfred gets boo. He said some dumb things before in the past, but that's the cool thing. Goodell gets booed, all that stuff. The one thing you can be critical of maybe the way he handled punishments and the NFL having too much say when it came to off field crimes. And you know, there was obviously the, the mismanagement of the Ray Rice video and what happened afterwards. All of that is fair criticism. He did not do a great job. But if from a business standpoint, he's hit it out of the park, like from a business standpoint, there's a reason why the owners reelect him every single time because he has had an eye to that, to your point, and he has recognized there's an ability to grow the game and to cater to an audience that if we do that, we will far surpass any other quote, unquote competition that's out there. And I think that's what's happened. And he deserves a lot of that credit as well.
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LaVar Arrington
Well, you hit it earlier and I'll just end with this. The, the, the mic drop is Goodell being able to be able to incorporate and implement gambling and it being a legal deal where you're able to do it. They're opening up sports books in the arenas, in the stadiums, now, that's probably the singular pat on the back that a boy that Roger Goodell gets from these owners because it has probably taken revenues up significantly in terms of what they're able to bring in and what. What they weren't able to bring in. But it still was out there and it still existed, Jonas. Now they're able to bring that into their doors and add that to their bottom line. So, yeah, I mean, the things that they've done, the things that Roger Goodell has done have been very strategically sound, very intentional in purpose and placing, and it's working. You're seeing it work. As you mentioned, you. You've created a larger fan base based upon fantasy football. People who aren't even serious football fans still get involved with fantasy football. So in a. Even if it's not an aggressive way, a passionate way of getting involved with the game, you still have people that are passive, passive fans that are still getting involved with the game because fantasy football brings them together. It's like a. A night of sorry or night of Monopoly or whatever it may be. You know what I mean? So it' smart man.
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Jonas Knox
And by the way, speaking of sorry, Lee Dalap is our executive producer here. Lee, how many fantasy football leagues are you in each year?
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LaVar Arrington
At least four, but probably closer to five.
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Jonas Knox
Okay. Like, he's a degenerate. I mean, and by the way, he still hasn't paid anybody for. I have paid them all.
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LaVar Arrington
He said he paid it all. He said he. He holds the money, people.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah.
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LaVar Arrington
And if I would never enter, I would never enter a league where lead the lap holds the money for the prize winners. Just wouldn't happen because that's a bad mistake. Right out the gate, you're already off to a bad start.
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Jonas Knox
Because if lead to laps holding the money, that means at some point, Prestige Liquor in Burbank is holding the money. That is very true, but just layaway.
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LaVar Arrington
It's. It's.
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Jonas Knox
That's the bank. That's.
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LaVar Arrington
That's the bank that's holding the money.
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Jonas Knox
Right.
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LaVar Arrington
By the end, I'm just hoping to win and not.
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Jonas Knox
So I don't have to pay out. Yeah, right. Yeah. So look, it just, you know, on behalf of degenerates everywhere, you know, I just want to tell Roger down the NFL, you're welcome. I mean, you're welcome. Here it is, the Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio for a.
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LaVar Arrington
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Jonas Knox
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LaVar Arrington
I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves.
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Dan Flores
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Jonas Knox
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Jonas Knox
It is the Dan Patrick show here on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys. Coming up in about 20 minutes from now, we're going to have a little something that we do called The FSR ir. It's where we report any issues, injuries, ailments from a long weekend for the crew here, that'll be yours on Fox Sports Radio. But it is time to get back into the discussion that has run roughshod over the NFL and sports media over the past several weeks. And it was the Tush Push. Was the tush push going to be banned? Were they going to get rid of the tush push? Well, apparently somebody who doesn't even, like, really play a key component to the tush push. Saquon Barkley, he was on the Exciting Mike's podcast, which is just a phenomenal name. Cooper De Jean, Reed Blankenship, the Exciting Whites. They have a podcast called the Exciting Mike. Yeah, they're called the Exciting Whites. Oh, yeah.
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LaVar Arrington
Nice.
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Jonas Knox
They said it, not me.
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LaVar Arrington
No reason to hate on them.
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Jonas Knox
They are exciting and they're white.
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LaVar Arrington
Well, there you go. Both accurate.
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Jonas Knox
So Saquon Barkley, their teammate, was on their podcast and had this to say about the potential of the tush push possibly being banned before it was overruled.
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LaVar Arrington
But the banning thing of it, I think it's kind of. I think it's soft, to be honest. Like, the teams that want to ban it because everybody can do it. Like, it's not like a play that, like, we only can do. Everybody can.
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Jonas Knox
Trademark.
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LaVar Arrington
Yeah. And there's just. We happen to have one of the best and biggest O lines. And Jalen hurts can squat 600 pounds. Like, that's not our fault. Like, Josh Allen is super big. They're not successful as it. Lamar Jackson is one of the best running quarterbacks of all time. They're not successful. So it's not something that, like, everyone can't do.
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Ryan Seacrest
Right.
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LaVar Arrington
So, like, them try to eliminate it. It's just like, I think that's kind of lame.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah. Soft asses trying to get rid of the tush Push. Think about that Hub. Or see about that.
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LaVar Arrington
I mean, he ain't. He's not wrong. If you can't beat him, join them. So basically what you're saying is, is that. That in that play, in that formation, the Philadelphia Eagles are bigger, stronger, badder asses than you are. Everybody who's against it, all you're basically saying is you're conceding the fact that the Philadelphia Eagles are bigger, stronger, and better at doing. Doing this play than any other team, and we don't want to see them do it because it's an unfair advantage to the Philadelphia Eagles.
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Jonas Knox
Can I ask you a question? If the Titans did the Tush push. Is there even a discussion about it getting banned? I think part of this is because it's Philly and because they're a bit obnoxious at times and they're a bit boisterous at times about how they do things. And you got their head Coach calling it 1st and 9 whenever they get the ball because they're just going to get that final yard. If it was, if it was fire, right, it's great. But. And if it was, and if it was Tennessee or another organization that wasn't as loud, I don't even think this is even being talked about. I don't think people would care.
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LaVar Arrington
I think it is and I think it is talked about just because of the nature of the play. But the intensity of it, the different storylines that have resonated from it are purely because it's Philadelphia, it's purely because it's Nick Sirianni, it's purely because of this team being. It fits the reputation of the city of brotherly love. So to me, I think it's a perfect storm play for, for the market for the team. What Philly represents, I mean, it's a tough, gritty, hard nosed, you know, city. Anybody who knows about Philadelphia, they know about the different boroughs and the different, different areas, you know, of Philadelphia, the suburbs, the, the inner city parts. They know about all of it. And everybody has a certain way of how things are done. And most would say, most would say that it is a very, very edgy, very gritty type of place. So this play is the perfect fit for what the Philadelphia Eagles represent to their fan base. So I don't know, man. I tend to agree with Saquon though. If you got such an issue with it and you feel like it's not a stoppable play, why don't you adopt first and nine? Why don't you adopt the ability to be able to run the tush push knowing that you can get one yard, at least one yard when you need it, whenever you need to get it. Why wouldn't you adopt that?
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Jonas Knox
First and nine, That's, I mean, great. So great.
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LaVar Arrington
Putting it on the table.
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Jonas Knox
Say this is what we're doing. Dare you. We dare you to try and stop it. This is what we're doing. It's first to nine. Just so you know, like. But. And I, and I watch it and I go, this has really become the, the biggest talking point of the NFL off season as far as on the field stuff goes. And it was this. And then it turned into this heated debate where you've got, you know, Jeffrey Laurie, you know, doing a comparison to a teenage boy's wet dream and all that. Like Philly's just. They're in a place right now where they know they're the champs. They're going to let everybody know they're the champs. And I think next year they're going to go out of their way to make an example of people with this play. And we brought up the possibility they haven't already. Oh, yeah, but we brought up the possibility of this on our show that they open up the NFL season against the Cowboys. I would not surprise me. The first chance they get, first down, say, at their own 25, 30 yard line, and they're just going to go tush push on the first play of the season just to stick it to the league and stick it to everybody else. As Saquon pointed out, you know, all, all the lame asses out there who are soft enough to vote against it. Like, I think that's the way Philly's going to handle this. Like, they know, look, we may be on borrowed time eventually. They're going to want to try and get this taken out of the game. While we've got it, let's go ahead and stick it to everybody for as long as we can. Feels like something they would do. That feels like an Eagles move.
- [32:27]
LaVar Arrington
I mean, why wouldn't you? And it don't look like they slowing up. Like, look at what they. They're doing personnel wise. Like, they ain't slowing up. So don't think that they're just going to go quietly into that good night. They're not. You gonna have to deal with us, you know, I mean, them, you know, I'm Pittsburgh, dude, but I do love PA and I do rep Philly, but you're gonna have to deal with the Eagles, man. And that's just. It is what it is. They have a. A very, very nice. Like this is what you got to say because you can't limit them to just being one play, right? The Philadelphia Eagles just won the Super Bowl. People like, quick reminder, they just won and they knocked off them boys and I ain't talking about Dallas. So when you look at what they've been able to pull together and it hasn't come void of. Of drama, hasn't come void of adversity. But adding Saquon to. To this team was the single biggest move in all of the National Football League. In my estimation, having what they already had on the defensive side of the ball and continuing to add as some of the guys like Brandon Graham retiring, some of these guys leaving, they are so deep with talent that looking at them, it's. It's almost crazy to think that most of these guys are literally on rookie contracts, man, and, and having the ability to grow your team and figure out where to. To, to, you know, mix and match or where to fill in and plug in the gap. They're not just plugging in the gap with. With serviceable players. They're plugging in the gap with guys that are coming out of college that are perennial pro bowlers, perennial all pros, just talented players. So the storyline is much bigger than one play with Philadelphia. It just becomes a funny story, a funny conversation if you ask me, because it's almost like you, you know, the people who are having such an issue with this play. It's almost like you have an issue with the Philadelphia Eagles or somebody that's a part of the Philly. Maybe it's Big Dom you got an issue with. I don't know who it is, but you got an issue. And you're trying to paint this picture like the Philadelphia Eagles are only good because of one play. You could not be further from the truth of reality in terms of what this team represents. It is a well built team. It's turned into a well oiled machine. Jonas, so to say it's one, one play. Like, oh, you do away with the Tush push, you're doing away with the Philadelphia Eagles success. Yeah, try that one. Try that one out. See how that one ages.
- [35:20]
Jonas Knox
And by the.
- [35:21]
LaVar Arrington
I don't think so.
- [35:22]
Jonas Knox
Do you think because you're, you're a brander, all right. You're all about branding and, and, you know, putting, putting a stamp on. Make it official and get it coverage and making it grow. Yeah, I'm talking about. Yeah, Stick City. Stick city Logger.
- [35:36]
LaVar Arrington
Stick city.
- [35:37]
Jonas Knox
Yeah, getting. Getting a little logger here soon. But it's coming. Like if you're Anthony Bar.
- [35:43]
LaVar Arrington
Okay.
- [35:44]
Jonas Knox
And something for this, I mean, he, he came up with it and he's nowhere to be found. Like, he's the inventor of the Tush Push. And this was back when, you know, he was with the Vikings in 2018. He's a linebacker. He's not even on. On offense. It's his idea. It's his brainchild. And he gets none of the love, like, none of the credit whatsoever. If I'm Anthony Barr, I'm pissed. This is my invention.
- [36:10]
LaVar Arrington
What you gonna get out of it?
- [36:11]
Jonas Knox
Yeah. Can he get like anything?
- [36:13]
LaVar Arrington
No, you can't. You can't you can't make money off of a play. Like, I mean, it would be cool if he got money every time it was, you know, if he was smart enough to maybe purchased the rights to the name, I wouldn't be surprised that the name is still available. Somebody might be looking it up right now and parking it. It might still be available because you just wouldn't assume that you could, you know, monetize.
- [36:41]
Jonas Knox
I mean, I preferred the brotherly shove personally, but, you know, the tush push. You know, people, you know, teach their own. That's what. That's what they like.
- [36:49]
LaVar Arrington
What was the official original, though, do we know? I don't know that he gave it. Did he give it a name or did he just say this type of play? You can't, because I remember hearing the audio of him saying it on the sideline. But did he give it a play in particular? Like. Like, for instance, why am I blanking on his name? The defensive end, big defensive end. Deacon. Deacon. Why was I blanking on Deacon Jones? All right, Deacon Jones comes up with the sack.
- [37:23]
Jonas Knox
Oh, yeah, right.
- [37:25]
LaVar Arrington
And he coined it. He coined the phrase sack the sack. And they started keeping it as they. They said Deacon Jones might have had 2, 300 sacks. Nobody knew about it because they didn't keep that stat. And they started keeping the stat after he was talking about sacking the quarterback. So if you did it in that way. I see. I don't know if Deacon Jones was making money off of the word sack, but imagine every single time they said the word sack, he got a residual from it. I mean, that would be pretty dope. I don't know if that exists here in this situation.
- [38:01]
Jonas Knox
He just watched Bruce Smith games and get paid every time. Every time Bruce made a play.
- [38:06]
LaVar Arrington
There's a lot of them out here, man. Sacks are what sacks are just as good as. It's like a rank, a number two ranking of a touchdown. I would assume a sack is. It's up there. It's up there. I mean, you think about it. The most prized defenders these days are guys that get sacks. Maybe even more so than interceptions. I would say more so than interceptions.
- [38:32]
Jonas Knox
If you just. You could be playing an awful game if you got one sack a game.
- [38:38]
LaVar Arrington
That made your game like you're going.
- [38:39]
Jonas Knox
To the hall of Fame.
- [38:40]
LaVar Arrington
That makes your game. You get one sec. If you can touch literally one on a quarterback one time in a game and they say sack, you've done well, by the way.
- [38:49]
Jonas Knox
That's a. That's a brutal existence for an offensive lineman, though. Like you shut a guy out for 99 of the, of the game. But he got one time and because of that he's going to the hall of Fame.
- [39:00]
LaVar Arrington
I mean, if you average one sack a game, that's 17 sacks, right? 17, 18. How many games is it? 17, 17. 17 sacks, bro. You get 17 sacks and you have a 10 year career. You do that math.
- [39:14]
Jonas Knox
I mean, one every two games and you have a 10 year career, you're approaching 100 sacks, you got a shot at being going to the hall of Fame. That's, it's crazy, man.
- [39:24]
LaVar Arrington
Like, I mean, you're in the conversation.
- [39:26]
Jonas Knox
So listen, Anthony Barr, we're trying, trying to get you some props.
- [39:32]
LaVar Arrington
We gave you some puffs.
- [39:33]
Jonas Knox
We tried, all right. But the, the Eagles have taken it over. It is the Dan Patrick show here on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for DP and the guys coming up next year though, it's been a long weekend and the weekend so we are going to report any issues, injuries, ailments from the crew here. It's a little something we do called the fsri and it's yours here on Fox Sports Radio. Thanks for listening to the Dan Patrick show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning, 9 until noon Eastern, 6 to 9 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. And you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app.
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I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves.
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- [42:08]
Jonas Knox
Listen to the American west with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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LaVar Arrington
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It's the Dan Patrick show here. Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys coming up top of next hour. We'll call it a little over 15 minutes from now. We are going to take a look ahead, what to expect, right? Can somebody bounce back? Can somebody respond and make a statement in the world of sports? We will answer those questions for you coming up here. Again, a little over 15 minutes from now. Before we get to a little something we do on the show called the FSRI want to remind you that you are listening to us now. But you know, you can also see us as well, too if you check out the fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. You'll see a whole bunch of video highlights from our shows. Be sure to subscribe so you always have instant access to our FOX Sports radio videos on YouTube.
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- [45:19]
Jonas Knox
So it's time to get the FSR IR report. All right, who's got what? Who's got something I got for you? You got nothing. No, nothing happened. You didn't suffer any injuries, no issues, no ailments from.
- [45:36]
LaVar Arrington
Was a little sore. I woke up, I woke up and had like maybe a little, you know, I, I drank some, some beers and I woke up and my toe was a little, little stiff, like the, you know, the gout, A little gout deal. But it wasn't, it wasn't serious because I got, you know, I got the medicine, I got a hold of my medicine, I pop, pop a little medicine and, and it's like, it's still a little stiff, but it's not sore. I don't feel like I've been put on ir. I'm not limping around or anything like that. So I just fell asleep. I woke up and I couldn't move my toe. And I immediately knew that it was the gout. I knew it was.
- [46:11]
Jonas Knox
Is that what happens when, if you have beer, your toe stuff, I mean.
- [46:15]
LaVar Arrington
It'S a trigger for me. Alcohol is a trigger for me.
- [46:19]
Jonas Knox
And it goes to your toe.
- [46:21]
LaVar Arrington
I get it. I get the weirdest spots. Like, I'll get it in my toe. I'll get it. Like my big toe, too. Just my big toe. No, other toe. Just my big toe. It'll. Yeah, man. What you making fun of me? I mean, you asked me to give you my IR though. This hasn't placed me on ir. I'm just telling you symptoms, you know, I mean, but I'll get it in my ankle. I'll get it in my knee. And no, like every Once in a while I'll get it in my elbow. It'll hit my elbow, but it just hits like really like acute areas of like my joints and it just picks.
- [46:53]
Jonas Knox
Different parts of the body. Like that.
- [46:55]
LaVar Arrington
Yeah.
- [46:57]
Jonas Knox
Damn.
- [46:58]
LaVar Arrington
Then I had some tequila. I had some tequila and some, some light, light Coronas. And you know, I woke up. But how it got me was. I was sleep, you know, like if I'm awake and I feel something, I just. I just take one of those, you know, like it just. It's a blocker. It like just knocks it out really quickly. But I'm was sleep. So I woke up and I went to go to the. And I felt it a little bit. I'm like, oh no, that ain't any good. I got up to go to the restroom and sure enough, when I went to put pressure on that bad boy, I almost fell down on the ground, you know, so getting to that age, you know, it's cuz you drink Corona Light. That's the worst light beer.
- [47:40]
Jonas Knox
Jesus, Lee.
- [47:40]
LaVar Arrington
It was good.
- [47:41]
Jonas Knox
There goes. There goes that sponsor opportunity.
- [47:44]
LaVar Arrington
It was good. I mean give you Corona extra.
- [47:49]
Jonas Knox
But what. How do you know it's not the tequila?
- [47:52]
LaVar Arrington
It could have been, it could have been both.
- [47:55]
Jonas Knox
I mean, how would you know, Lee? Are you some expert on drinking? Like how would you know?
- [48:00]
LaVar Arrington
Yeah, you can't even give away a Corona Light. Nobody drinks Corona like the worst because you get the gout. That's right.
- [48:06]
Jonas Knox
By the way, that is not. We do not. We want to be careful here. We are not saying that Corona Light gets gives anybody gout.
- [48:13]
LaVar Arrington
I didn't say anything about anything. I'm just telling you when I drink, I get. I get those symptoms.
- [48:20]
Jonas Knox
Yeah. If you've got a problem with what Lee had to say, you can find him on X at Brady Underscore Quinn where you can find me if you got any issues with anything that he just said here on the show. What about you, Lee? Did you get slaughtered this weekend or what are you waiting for later today to make that happen?
- [48:34]
LaVar Arrington
I had a good time. I met up with an old co.
- [48:36]
Jonas Knox
Worker of ours and he took me.
- [48:38]
LaVar Arrington
To his favorite local establishment where his. He's friendly with the bartender. He kept on bringing out ice cold mugs. Steins. Actually, yesterday I called Lee up. Lee was fried.
- [48:50]
Jonas Knox
I was not fried.
- [48:52]
LaVar Arrington
I was not sounded. You sounded so happily. I was supposed to leave fried. I was happy to hear from you. I could hear the waves in the background. You really. It sounded like you were walking on the beach. Yeah, I'm away I'm away somewhere.
- [49:02]
Jonas Knox
Oh, yeah, yeah. Damn.
- [49:05]
LaVar Arrington
And I was watching the, the Indy 500 and I was just excited and we were kind of pumping each other.
- [49:10]
Jonas Knox
Up for today's show.
- [49:12]
LaVar Arrington
Yeah, it was a good time yesterday.
- [49:15]
Jonas Knox
But I did go out and drink.
- [49:16]
LaVar Arrington
After I talked to you, so that was.
- [49:17]
Jonas Knox
Yeah, just, just so we're clear, I did drink. Yeah. I don't know what you guys think I lost it.
- [49:21]
LaVar Arrington
Just not. Just not at that, you know, drink some. You drank some Kool Aid.
- [49:30]
Jonas Knox
I took like. This ought to tell you everything about my social life. So I took my son to go to golf and stuff.
- [49:38]
LaVar Arrington
And that's what it's called. Golf.
- [49:40]
Jonas Knox
It's called golf and stuff. Yeah. It's out here in Southern California. It's in ventura in the 805 out here.
- [49:46]
LaVar Arrington
And where do rich people live?
- [49:48]
Jonas Knox
No, definitely not. Definitely not. But it is not, you know, not far from, you know, a little bit north of where the Cowboys have training camp in Oxford. And so, yeah, Knoxnard. Some call it Knoxnard.
- [50:03]
LaVar Arrington
Okay.
- [50:03]
Jonas Knox
And so I take my son there and because he watch like he's at the age now he's four and he's at the age now to where he retains information and he associates things with other things. And so I told him, yeah, we'll go to golf and stuff. Let's. Let's go have some fun. We'll. We'll. I'll take you to golf and stuff. So he decides that he's going to, to bring out his batting gloves for baseball and he's just gonna wear one glove. So because we were going golf and he's seen golfers on tv, he decided he was just gonna wear one glove to putt.
- [50:37]
LaVar Arrington
Which, which hand did he use?
- [50:39]
Jonas Knox
Left hand. The right hand?
- [50:40]
LaVar Arrington
Is he lefty?
- [50:41]
Jonas Knox
No, no, no. But that's golfers.
- [50:42]
LaVar Arrington
You did it right?
- [50:43]
Jonas Knox
Yeah. 100.
- [50:45]
LaVar Arrington
Yeah.
- [50:45]
Jonas Knox
He even. So he always has like this same Cubs hat that he wears, but he wore a, a different hat. He wore the black Travis Matthew hat that we got from our friends at Travis Matthew at the super bowl week in New Orleans because he knows that Travis Matthew makes golf wear. Yeah, Lee. That exact same hat. So he literally dressed the part of a golfer and then proceeded to annihilate me. I literally got smoked by a four year old. He's hitting shots of up ramps, through windmills, through everything. And then right when you're thinking, man, he's, he's really advanced, eventually we get to a point to where he started not feeling well. Had a little bit of a Meltdown. And then it was a big problem trying to get him out of there. But I've just realized now whatever he hears or sees, he's going to repeat. So now I just have to pretty much clean up everything in front of him. Gotta. Gotta clean it all up. Gotta. Can't even take a chance anymore because there's no telling what he's going to repeat, whether it's an outfit, whether it's anything at that age and at 4 years old. But he was, you know, he loved it and, you know, he had a good time, you know, no booze, no weren't licking the lid or anything like that. But, you know, was a little bit of.
- [52:01]
LaVar Arrington
Well, not that you know, of, you know.
- [52:03]
Jonas Knox
Yeah, I mean, maybe he was sneaking a couple, but, you know, listen in Memorial Day is today. So Lee, you got more time to, you know, fill up a cooler and let it fly here?
- [52:14]
LaVar Arrington
It'll be a pool day. Absolutely. Yeah, exactly. Cooler. Nothing like a good cooler beer. Opposed to something about Mary. Lady that sits at the pool. Yeah, there'll be some people suntanned for sure. The leather skinned lady.
- [52:28]
Jonas Knox
I mean, the weather ain't even that great out here right now, is it?
- [52:30]
LaVar Arrington
It's really not. It's not.
- [52:32]
Jonas Knox
It's like cloudy and gray in Southern California. You're gonna go sip the by the pool?
- [52:37]
LaVar Arrington
Yeah.
- [52:38]
Jonas Knox
If weather permits, the sun will peak.
- [52:39]
LaVar Arrington
Out at some point. Okay, barbecue's right there. Be a good time.
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- [54:00]
LaVar Arrington
I get right back there and it's bad.
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Jonas Knox
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LaVar Arrington
And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast, sir.
- [55:18]
Jonas Knox
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- [55:20]
LaVar Arrington
Of the drug war.
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Jonas Knox
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LaVar Arrington
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LaVar Arrington
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It really does. It makes it real.
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LaVar Arrington
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Ryan Seacrest
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