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Hoda Kotb
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Hoda Kotb
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Hoda Kotb
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Hoda Kotb
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Hoda Kotb
You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio Hour 2 on this Wednesday. Dan and the Danettes Dan Patrick Show. Your job gave you a second screen for a reason. Focus on goals. This afternoon it's Arsenal against Man United in North London. That'll be at 3:15 Eastern only on Peacock, which is where you can watch this program all three hours. Download the app if you haven't done so. 8773 DP show email address DP dan patrick.com Twitter handle the DP show spent a lot of Time talking about the College football playoff rankings. Pat, 40 from Sports Illustrated covers the sport. He was in Columbus for Ohio State in Michigan, and I saw a tweet by him that he got pepper sprayed, so he was obviously close to the action. Jason Garrett, former Cowboys head coach, now a contributor analyst on Football Night in America, will stop by as well. A lot of NBA, the NBA cup rolling along. The Juan Soto decision is supposed to be happening soon. This feels like this is Scott Boris saying to the media, put it out there. Last call for bids on Juan Soto. Remember when the Shohei Ohtani sweepstakes got to 600 million and we were like, what? How is this possible? Is he worth it? Now has proven to be worth $600 million, but he has a global following. Juan Soto, $600 million. He's a. He's a really, really good hitter. That's it. There's no. There's no global reach with Juan Soto, But Toronto's in it, Red Sox are in it, Yankees in it, Mets in it. Dodgers are in it. Maybe you'll have an outlier there, but 600 million, it's like when you were growing up and somebody said somebody was a millionaire, and you're like, oh, my God, if only. And then all of a sudden, it was a billionaire. Now we don't even blink. Somebody's a billionaire. You're like, oh, okay. Hey, Jay Z's a billionaire. Hey, LeBron's a bid. Michael's a billionaire. We don't care. Elon Musk has how many. Warren Buffett, like, it doesn't matter. Even when you look at salaries, Steph Curry's making $60 million, okay? Luka Doncic will make $100 million in a year in his career. At some point, he will make $100 million. So when it gets to be 600 million, you're like, okay, yeah, I can see it. Well, you know who is going to pick up the tab? You. We go all that. Owner is going to spend money. Well, you know what the owner is going to do? I'm going to spend the money. I'm going to raise ticket prices, parking concession. So you're helping foot the bill of Steve Cohen wants to bring in Juan Soto, you know, because, hey, we all say the following man, I love my owner spends money. Well, you're spending money, too, because it's going to cost you. We're in this together. But 600 million, it used to be like, you'd go, no way. Remember Mike Trout signing his deal? Harper, you're going, golly, $350 million. Aaron Judge. I could. It wasn't that long ago. Now it's 600 million for Juan Soto. I'm like, okay. And I know I got some baseball analyst, they push back on me, saying I'd never sign him too. I mean, you're banking on somebody staying healthy for 12 years. He's 26. Okay, if you said to the Angels, would you have done it again if you had the opportunity to sign Mike Trout, Given what happened, I could I get three really good players for $600 million. That might make my team better. I mean, that would be my approach. But if you got the money, you want to spend the money and you bring in Juan Soto and you're the Mets, great. You keep him from the Yankees and the Dodgers, great. I just wouldn't go out of my way to watch Juan Soto. I mean, if he's on tv, I'd go, oh, okay, he gets on base. He certainly loved right field at Yankee Stadium, that, that short porch there. But Ohtani is must see tv. Harper, you turn tune in to see him. I mean, you know, Paul Skeens. I would, I would tune in. Baseball doesn't have enough tune in factor, guys. I don't know. I mean, Juan Soto hits 40 homers, drives in 120 runs and what hits 285 and not a good fielder. And I don't, I mean, what else you getting? I don't know. For 600 million, I'd like a little more. Yes. Marvin was a rod.
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Dan Patrick
The first contract where everyone thought, this is outrageous. $250 million over 10 years. Was that the first, like really ridiculous contract?
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Hoda Kotb
I'm trying to think. I mean, that's up there because he went to Texas. And I think that that was the surprising part of it is Scott Boris got Texas to pony up foolishly and spend that kind of money. And then even a rod going to the Yankees. And then I think one of his excuses for using steroids was the pressure to live up to his contract when he went to the Yankees. Yes.
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Pat Forde
Pauline, do you know what I remember for the most public reaction in the time this show and before it, from a player getting paid, guys like John Koncac, this big stiff center in the NBA, he got like, I don't. He may have gotten like 4 million a year for six years with the Atlanta Hawks. Yeah. And people went berserk. And then there was a guy named Donald Foil who was a barely passable center.
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Hoda Kotb
Golden State.
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Pat Forde
Golden State. And he got a nice contract. And that's where he's like, so you could be bad at your job and become a multimillionaire.
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Hoda Kotb
Well, I remember John. His nickname was John Contract because he signed this contract and he wasn't a good player. I think he played at SMU and then he went to the Hawks. You know, he's serviceable, big man. But at the time you're going, he's getting that kind of money, he might have been getting paid more money than Michael Jordan with his contract.
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Pat Forde
You're correct. They were both at 2.5 million at one time.
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Hoda Kotb
And then Johnny contract went to 4 million, I think.
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Pat Forde
Correct.
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Hoda Kotb
And, you know, people went apoplectic with that. It's the right place, right time is really what it is. Soto is turning 26 and this is the sweet spot here. He's going to get paid. He's going to get paid a lot of money. And you know, comes down to, is he worth it? Well, to me, no. But I'm just, I'm just a baseball fan. If, if that's my team and I get him and we can win championships. Okay. I don't. I don't know if he's the guy that leads you to the promised land, but he is a great hitter. That's it. Great hitter. Ohtani gives you a global exposure. He's a. He did something no one's ever done in the history of the game. And he's going to be continuing to do those things. Now he goes back to pitching and hitting. He showed what he could do. Hey, I can't pitch well, let me show you what I can do. And then you have the entire, you know, Far East Japanese market. Like you have all of that Dodger games over there, what those numbers were during the World Series, the playoffs over there. Okay, I can capitalize on. I can monetize that. Juan Soto. I can't monetize that. Yeah, Marvin.
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Dan Patrick
And we talked baseball all season long because of one guy, Shohei Ohtani. Yeah, we're not doing that with Juan Soto.
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Hoda Kotb
8773 DP show email address DP dan patrick.com Twitter handle @DP show the Texans are still a little salty with the Aziz Al Shire suspension. Now, we talked about it a lot and we talked about it yesterday. Three game suspension. Nick Cao is the Texans gm and he thinks that his player has. Well, the portrait of him is incorrect of who this player is. Look, it is what it is. I think the big thing from our standpoint and all teams want is just some level of consistency. And we've talked at Ali, quite frankly, we don't have a good explanation. D'Amico talked to them yesterday. So, I mean, it is what it is. I'm sure Aziz will go through whatever process he's going to go through, and then we'll deal with it accordingly. But I think what we take umbrage is, is just the paint. The picture that's been painted about Aziz, his intentions, who he is as a person. I mean, it's. Quite frankly, it's bull. And it's unfair to the individual. It's unfair to the organization. I mean, we love everything about Aziz Al Shair, what he means to this team, what he brings to this, to this team. Okay. I'm sure he is a good guy. You know, I think he was working something with United Way yesterday. He's a team captain. He's got two priors to this. He punched somebody. He once grabbed Brady around the neck. He hit Tony Pollard out of bounds, two yards out of bounds from behind. Can you blame Trevor Lawrence that he slid too late? Okay, Your player went up top with a forearm right to his head. Right to his head. So, look, you're defending your player. Great. Not sure why you are. Feels like you're over defending your player. Are you sending a message here? Like, what's the message you're sending here? Hey, we support our guys. Okay, great. Tell me how you support him with the other plays that he had. I'd like to hear that. And why is it you can complain about the punishment, but you can't complain about the officials on a call? Like, he's not Nick Ca. The GM doesn't get suspended or punished if he's critical of the punishment. You don't get punished by the NFL. But if you criticize, if he said, you know, the officials are terrible, well, he's going to get fined $50,000. You could be critical of the NFL handing out the punishment to your player. And the NFL doesn't do anything about it. But I think you got to be fair with the totality of this player in his career. If he didn't have any priors, then maybe we look at this differently. And these are recent priors. Is it going to get maybe reduced to two games if they appeal? Maybe, like, okay, so what, you couldn't get him off the field. He took his helmet off, you know, and. And then you have your head coach who's calling out Jacksonville saying they overreacted. Can somebody please ask D'Amico, Ryan's coach, if C.J. stroud got hit like that by a Jacksonville player and your players didn't defend him, how would you feel? That's over. That's a silly comment by him. They overreacted. Their franchise quarterback is knocked out. If your franchise quarterback was knocked out and your players didn't go on the field, how would you have reacted? That's it. Coach, you got an answer? Oh, you don't? Okay, we move on from that. It's silly to say that every coach wants his player to be out there to defend his quarterback after a cheap shot like that. And I would want the Texans to do the same if it happened to C.J. stroud. All right. Yeah. Pulling.
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Pat Forde
Could you make the case, though, that the defense, if this were a star defensive player, he would not have been fined the same or suspended the same. Such as. Same exact hit T.J. watt?
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Hoda Kotb
Yeah, but I can't. I can't do that.
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Pat Forde
Well, I think that'd be like if.
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Hoda Kotb
I said, if Jacoby Brissette got hit, is somebody going to be suspended?
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Pat Forde
But I think that's kind of what Nick Cesario is saying, that my guy, because he's a nobody, is getting lit up more than he should for a hit that happens. I think that's what he's saying.
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Hoda Kotb
But his player has priors here and he's known only because of the priors. Nobody's saying, boy, that guy's an unbelievable player. They're talking about the other hits that he had that led to this. I mean, if T.J. watt did the same thing, then I would hope that they would suspend him as well. Now, maybe you get the benefit of the doubt there. If that's what Nick Casario is saying, good luck with that. But that. That we're sorry, your player is not known like T.J. watt is. You don't get the benefit of the doubt. He created this situation where he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. If it's a marquee defensive player and he's doing that, are they more lenient? I hope they're not. Maybe they are. But still, the Texans, they can. They can blame their player for putting their player in that situation. All right, poll question for hour two is going to be Watts.
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Jason Garrett
Let me update you from hour one. Since we had two of them, Alabama will ultimately get into the 12 team playoff because, let's see, right now, 91% of the audience say it's because they're Alabama, not because they deserve to be. Okay, 91%, that's a lot.
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Hoda Kotb
It is.
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Jason Garrett
Miami will ultimately get left out of the 12 team playoff because 53% is because they just don't deserve to be in. Not because they just don't have the same name value anymore. Okay, they are down a little bit.
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Hoda Kotb
Do we have something for hour two that we're going with?
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Jason Garrett
Yeah, I did think about just to see if we get a different result. The Miami Hurricanes got hosed or hosed themselves just because the wording is so. Is so wonderful.
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Hoda Kotb
Hoser.
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Jason Garrett
Yeah.
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Hoda Kotb
Who.
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Jason Garrett
Who hosed who themselves or. Yeah, you could throw. Todd had another one, too. It's a true or false. No school has a strong case if they get left out of the College Football Playoff. I think that's kind of fair.
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Hoda Kotb
Nobody really has a case if they get left out.
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Jason Garrett
Yeah.
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Hoda Kotb
Did Florida State have a case last year? Right, they did. They were undefeated. It's just they didn't have their quarterback. Yes, Todd. And we've been talking a lot in recent weeks on how there's really no great team in college football. So because of that, who could really feel that snubbed if they're number 13 or 14? After we hear what happens on Sunday from the selection. Yeah, there's still going to be, you know, teams that complain. You know, it's weird. Do we look at Oregon as a great team, probably not undefeated, but I don't know if we recognize them, even though they're in the Big Ten now, but it still feels like it's an SEC world that we live in. Now. You're talking about Georgia and you're talking about Alabama, and then you get around to, like, Notre Dame is really good. Like, that's a really solid go back to when Alabama and Notre Dame played. What was that, a decade ago? And that was ugly. Like, that's when you saw. Oh, my gosh, that's SEC football. Alabama, you better, you know, pick up your game. You know, the Big Ten had to do that as well. Big Ten realized we got to get bigger. We got. We got to get speed. We have to recruit different athletes here, different parts of the country. And Notre Dame, it always felt like Notre Dame was a step slower, you know, And I didn't know if it was their shoes or if it was the turf or Shoes were big.
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Pat Forde
Yeah, it's a great call.
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Hoda Kotb
Like, hey, why are we slower than everybody else?
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Jason Garrett
Where those black cleats, they look really slow.
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Pat Forde
They ran like they were Irish.
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Hoda Kotb
Hey.
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Pat Forde
Oh, I can make that joke.
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Hoda Kotb
Oh, that's right, you can.
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Pat Forde
Yeah.
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Hoda Kotb
All right. When we come back, Pat40 will join us. He'll clear up all of this about college football and we'll talk about what it's like to get peppers sprayed in Columbus, Ohio. We're back after this. In the Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Black Friday Football on Prime is back this week the Raiders and the Chiefs into the end zone. Unbelievable. Catch an old school rivalry for a new game day.
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Dan Patrick
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Hoda Kotb
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Hoda Kotb
Insured by NCUA Sunday night Justin Herbert, Chargers Patrick Mahomes, the Chiefs. That'll be at Arrowhead Sunday, 7 Eastern on NBC. And Peacock, he might be the first guest we've had on who has been pepper sprayed, at least officially peppered sprayed, I'm not sure. Recently pepper sprayed. He's Pat, 40, from Sports Illustrated and he was there in Columbus, Ohio State in Michigan. How does it feel to get pepper sprayed?
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Dan Patrick
Pat it doesn't taste good. Dan My food review of pepper spray is not overwhelmingly positive. It really didn't get in my eyes much. I was wearing glasses, maybe that'll help. But it got in my mouth and it's, it's unpleasant, that's for sure. Mostly I was like, what the hell is actually happening here? And then people started reeling out of there with, you know, their eyes watering and choking and everything. I was like, oh, we've just been pepper sprayed. This is a new, new college football achievement for me.
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Hoda Kotb
I, you know, it's college football, so it should be Dr. Pepper Spray. You know, with the big sponsor, you can use that if you want. How did it get to the point where pepper spray was needed after that game?
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Dan Patrick
I'm not sure. It felt to me a little like an overreaction. I mean, it was. It was violent in there for sure. I didn't get all the way into the middle of the octagon, as it were, but, I mean, there were punches, kicks being thrown, people getting bloodied, but I thought that this could have been handled without all of a sudden guys wearing sheriff jackets just turning around and spraying wide swaths. So I don't know. I think it was an overreaction to a couple of teams overreacting.
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Hoda Kotb
Okay. Does college football look at this bigger picture? We've. We've seen a recent outbreak in planting the flag here. Does college football care about this? The NCAA care to act upon this?
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, college football cares for sure. The NCAA would probably like to care, but has basically been kicked out of college football. The conferences don't like the look. We've heard from some commissioners and some other people that think it's a bad look. It'll be one of those, you know, January NCAA conventions, spring conference meetings, talking points, and they'll kick it around. I wouldn't be surprised if they come up with some sort of fine structures or if they come up with a. And it's going to be conference by conference, but a legislation of like, you don't bring your flags on the road, or you got to put your flags in the locker room with five minutes left in the game or whatever. You can't have nice things, Dan, if you can't play nicely.
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Hoda Kotb
All right. Your reaction to the latest rankings?
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Dan Patrick
I thought Miami got screwed. It's close. It's not like this is the biggest travesty we've ever seen, but I would have had Miami ahead of Alabama. But we've seen, historically, Alabama gets in, the SEC gets what it wants. Greg Sankey all but planted his flag in October, saying, this has to go incredibly well. And I think a lot of people took that as marching orders of we better get all of our teams in that deserve to get in, maybe even some that don't deserve to get in.
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Hoda Kotb
Yeah, I wonder, and I said this when it happened, the SEC is going to get in at least three schools. Like, it almost feels like, all right, we're going to sign up for this. We're going to play along with you, but you better be fair to us. At the end of the year, Alabama is getting in because of Their brand. Miami used to have a brand. They don't have a brand anymore. How much of a factor do you think that that has played in?
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Dan Patrick
I think it's undeniable. I mean, they can try to deny it, but I don't believe it. I think the Alabama brand is so strong that losses for them seem to matter less. Certain wins even seem to matter more. It may just mean more. The thing that the point where I thought not necessarily that the fix is in, but that they were excessively enamored with the Alabama brand was two weeks ago when they beat Mercer, an FCS team, and moved up three spots. They moved up three spots in the rankings by beating Mercer. Then they lose by three touchdowns to Oklahoma. But Ward Manuel comes out and says, well, Miami wasn't playing well at the end. Was Alabama playing well? No.
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Hoda Kotb
I don't know what goes on in those meetings. I don't know if, like, are there directives that go on when the committee gets together?
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Dan Patrick
We all don't know what goes on in the meetings. And that's one of the biggest frustrations of this really, is just a lack of real knowledge. It'd be great to have a camera in there, to have a reporter in there, to have something in there to tell the public what actually does happen. What are the discussion points? What, you know, where are the tension points? And yes, what are the. What. What's the discussion level of how's this going to look or how's this going to play? Those things I would love to know, but we don't really have an accurate summation of that.
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Hoda Kotb
We also have gotten to a point where. And these commissioners know they don't want to play in a conference championship game because of the risk. It was a money grab for these conferences. Well, now the money's available in the 12 team playoff. They want to slowly diminish what these conference championship games mean, certainly for the Big Ten and the sec. So how do you do that where you kind of. I don't. You can't eradicate. But how do you diminish them? Therefore, don't, you know, these games don't really mean that much other than you're going to win your conference championship.
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Dan Patrick
Right. I don't know. It's a difficult one because they're addicted to the money from that. They're addicted to the money, period, from all sources. But they like the money that comes with this. They also, they like the celebration of the league sort of stage that it gives them. The Big Ten networks going to do nothing but write talk about and laud the league for two days in Indianapolis. The SEC network is going to do the same thing in Atlanta. The ACC network will do the same thing in Charlotte. The leagues like that and they like the money. So I don't know how you separate that and diminish the conference championship more. I've never liked the conference championships. I thought they were double jeopardy for the best teams, had a chance for a fluky outcome, a chance for injuries. But now you're right that with the playoff and the way we've got it structured, it's even less important and probably more damaging. Although you can at least safeguard to a degree, which I think they're trying to do here, that both teams in your conference championship are probably getting in to the playoff.
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Hoda Kotb
He's Pat40 from Sports Illustrated Senior writer. The teams that are on the bubble who could be bounced this weekend? Most likely.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. I mean Alabama's rooting hard for SMU because if Clemson wins, Alabama theoretically could be out. But the committee could also just find another way to keep Alabama in and bounce smu. So the ACC championship game I think is really where it's at. The Mountain west championship game between Boise and UNLV is interesting. You know, I mean can Boise hold on to a top four seed and a first round by and probably kick the Big 12 into playing a first round road game with a champion of that league? So those are the two spots. The ACC and the Mountain west games I think are the two that where there's really some actual tension about what might happen.
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Hoda Kotb
What do you think changes about the playoffs next year?
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Dan Patrick
I would suspect whether it's next year, whether it's 20, 27, more likely that the first round buys do not go to four conference champions, that they will go to the four highest ranked teams. I think the Big Ten and SEC will say, okay, enough of that. We let you stay in our tournament, Big 12 and Accent. But in Mountain west or whoever. But you're not getting the buys and they will try to take all of those.
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Hoda Kotb
Any chance Travis Hunter wins the Heisman unanimously?
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Dan Patrick
No, I don't think so. I think there's a decent support for Ashton Gentee, who's a great player. I think Travis Hunter wins and probably wins by a considerable margin. But I think Ashton Gentee, and especially if he, if he puts up 200 yards Friday night, you know, that'll probably help him some more. Again, I don't think Travis Hunter loses. But, but I don't think it's a, an absolute landslide. Yeah.
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Hoda Kotb
Because I argued that Shador Sanders has had kind of quietly, which is hard to say about Colorado and being Deon sun quietly had an unbelievable season and that that dude can take some punishment. He gets hit. Travis Hunter is exciting and the potential is wonderful. You know, I was making a case Gentee and Shador, what they've meant to their teams. Probably more valuable than Travis Hunter is to Colorado. Is that crazy to say?
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Dan Patrick
Well, no. I mean, you can make that argument. I would say Travis Hunter might be more valuable because he does indeed play two positions. But Shador Sanders has been unbelievable. I mean, if he's in the top three, he deserves it. Your point about him getting hit and taking it is well made because that is one tough quarterback. He takes a pounding, he gets sacked a lot. He holds the ball. He doesn't bail out on plays. It's impressive what he's done this year. He's a really, really good player.
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Hoda Kotb
Best running back that you ever saw. I mean, Gentee is getting into that Barry Sanders territory with these numbers. Barry did it, of course, you know, against better competition probably, but best running back you ever saw in person in.
- [32:51]
Dan Patrick
College, I would say Adrian Peterson. He was just unbelievable at Oklahoma now, you know, all time. I mean, Barry Sanders, you watched him and it was like watching a magician or like an adult playing with children where nobody could just catch him. He just made you look silly. So I would those two come to mind. Walter Payton, of course, but I didn't see him in college. You know, I just. I love the way Walter Payton just defeated tacklers. But Genty Gentle's legit man. He's got size and he's just got great feet. I mean, his feet. He reminds me of Ledanian Tomlinson. That comparison's been made. Can catch the ball as well. And he's just. He's a heck of a player.
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Hoda Kotb
Great to talk to you. And are you going to the ACC title game?
- [33:33]
Dan Patrick
I am, yes. Going to go see if Clemson can drop something in the punch bowl.
- [33:38]
Hoda Kotb
What do you think the chances are you get pepper sprayed again?
- [33:43]
Dan Patrick
I think much lower. Okay, Horseshoe, much lower. But I might be back in the horseshoe if they have a first round game and I'll be bringing protective gear.
- [33:53]
Hoda Kotb
How safe is Ryan Day, in your opinion?
- [33:56]
Dan Patrick
I think he's relatively safe if he wants to be safe. If he doesn't want to go, I think he might be willing to reconsider how much he wants to be there. But I don't see Ohio State.
- [34:10]
Hoda Kotb
Wait, wait, wait, hold on. That Ryan Day makes say, you know what I Don't want to be under this microscope anymore.
- [34:16]
Dan Patrick
Yeah. I mean, I don't think that's out of the question, that this has become almost an untenable situation if he can get another job that wants to pay him $10 million a year.
- [34:26]
Hoda Kotb
What about Urban Meyer coming back to Ohio State?
- [34:29]
Dan Patrick
Let's not. I don't think so. I don't think that would happen. Ross Bjork, I think the new AD there, if he were to get the chance to make a hire, I think he would want to establish his own sort of signature on the program.
- [34:44]
Hoda Kotb
Yeah. Because I think the people who got rid of Urban Meyer aren't there at Ohio State anymore.
- [34:49]
Dan Patrick
They're not. No, that's true. I mean, it would be a fresh slate. But I still am not sure I think Ross Bjork has enough ambition that he was like, I'm not bringing back a guy that's going to be, you know, just immediately dwarf me.
- [35:02]
Hoda Kotb
He's Pat40. He's not afraid of your pepper spray. And he could be coming to a stadium near you. Thank you, Pat.
- [35:08]
Dan Patrick
Thank you.
- [35:09]
Hoda Kotb
That's Pat40 going to the ACC title. Guy probably won't get pepper sprayed, you know, and college football fans are so passionate. I saw where Pat40 put out. Hey, I just got peppers sprayed. And then I saw a comment from a college football fan who said, good, spray him again. I think Pat must have said something about somebody's fan base, you know, and they hold those things for dear life. I think there are people still upset at Chris Fowler. Back to the Peyton Manning.
- [35:43]
Pat Forde
Wow.
- [35:44]
Hoda Kotb
For the Heisman with Charles Woodson, it.
- [35:46]
Pat Forde
Was a big deal for decades.
- [35:48]
Hoda Kotb
The Michigan fans still frosty at him? Or is it Tennessee fans who are frosty?
- [35:53]
Pat Forde
Tennessee fans. And back in the day, Tennessee, from what I was told, said no a couple times to game day. Coming back, they were salty.
- [36:02]
Hoda Kotb
Yes.
- [36:02]
Dan Patrick
Marvin, is there a difference between passionate and absolutely insane?
- [36:09]
Hoda Kotb
Wow. It's close. I think they're. They're in the same zip code neighborhood, on the same block, probably. It doesn't take much effort to get from one to the other. Yes. Mark.
- [36:23]
Dan Patrick
It's like Harvey Updike. He was passionate. And then he went for the guy that tumors corners.
- [36:27]
Hoda Kotb
Yeah.
- [36:28]
Dan Patrick
He poisoned the trees.
- [36:29]
Hoda Kotb
Yeah. Yeah.
- [36:30]
Dan Patrick
The Alabama fan.
- [36:31]
Hoda Kotb
Yeah. Okay. Yes. Todd, that was a pretty big thing that Pat just dropped that Ryan Day would say, I've had enough here. I just don't need this aggravation, stress. I'm done. Yeah. Yeah. I hadn't heard that.
- [36:42]
Jason Garrett
Now, is he reporting that?
- [36:44]
Hoda Kotb
No, no.
- [36:45]
Jason Garrett
Thinking they're getting into those waters that we love to.
- [36:49]
Hoda Kotb
Oh, I know.
- [36:50]
Jason Garrett
Around in.
- [36:50]
Hoda Kotb
You're right. Well, no, Pat's not an insider. Adam Schefter is an insider. And Shefty said, I could see Ben. Ben Johnson at Detroit being interested in the Bears job. Now, that's not a report, but when the insider says, I could see where Ben Johnson would be interested in the Bears, that makes me a little nervous. Yeah, but what's.
- [37:17]
Jason Garrett
What really is the difference between what Pat40 does and what Adam Schefter does?
- [37:21]
Hoda Kotb
Well, Shefty is when he says it. It's. That's the inside part of this. Pat reports on. I don't think his job is an insider. He's a writer. Shefty's an information guy. Shefty doesn't write. Pat40 wrote about the Ohio State, Michigan game. Shefty could have a report on Ryan Day leaving to go to the NFL. I mean, the lines are blurred because Shefty wants to be a personality. So he might say things where, hey, I could see that. Or I'm hearing, you know, the people in Chicago ran with this yesterday that Adam was saying, hey, I could see where Ben Johnson would be interested in the Bears. Well, because he's saying it like, Shefty can't have an opinion with his job. You know, unfortunately, when you're an insider, when you have an opinion, then it feels like that's a report, not, hey, I could see that. You can't do that because people run with that like they did in Chicago. Yes, Paulie, quickly, I want to go.
- [38:21]
Pat Forde
Back to what Pat40 said about Ryan Day. That is pretty surprising. He could see them just leaving Ohio State. Seaton said something earlier in the week about Ohio State and how it's messed up that a team, a fan base, bases so much of their worth or whatever. You want to call it off one game a year. And that doesn't help the franchise overall. And maybe that's what Ryan Day's thinking.
- [38:45]
Hoda Kotb
But that's. I mean, coaches have been fired because they didn't do well against Michigan or against Ohio State. It's happened before. It's the importance of that now. I think with the 12 team playoff, that might relax that a little bit, because if you lost that game, you had no chance playing for a national championship. Now you can. Ohio State's still in the mix here, but before it was like, you lost that game. You lost the integrity of an entire state. And Ryan Day may just say, look, I don't want any more of this now. I hadn't heard that before. I did. I have friends in Columbus and they were like, you know, there's a little chatter here I go. What does that mean? You know, some people talking about what if Urban Meyer. I said I can't deal in what if Urban Meyer comes back? Is there a report? Then we have something here. Not. I could see that. I don't see it. But, you know, crazier things have happened. Take a break. More phone calls coming up. Jason Garrett, former Cowboys coach, coming up next hour. Back after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Black Friday Football on Prime is back. This week, the Raiders and the Chiefs into the end zone. Unbelievable. Catch an old school rivalry for a new game day.
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Hoda Kotb
By NCUA Coming up, we will give you our November P. November. The MVP of November. Yeah, yeah, I know, I know. It's just I'm having a hard time with November.
- [44:46]
Pat Forde
I think you're nailing it.
- [44:47]
Hoda Kotb
Yeah, no them VP that'll be coming up. Dan Levittard is going to join us. The voice of Miami football. We'll see if he's upset with the U. Not in the playoffs, on the outside looking in. And Jason Garrett, he will join us on loan from Football Night in America. Time to play in or out. You're either in or you're out. Paulie, Some topics Please.
- [45:11]
Pat Forde
So I present the topic. You say, in if you're in.
- [45:14]
Hoda Kotb
Out if you're out.
- [45:15]
Pat Forde
Just do it that way and we'll be fine. Not out, out. Unless you really, really mean it. So I guess you can say out.
- [45:21]
Hoda Kotb
But you can be in. In.
- [45:23]
Pat Forde
Oh, yeah, Like, I'm in.
- [45:25]
Hoda Kotb
In. In.
- [45:26]
Pat Forde
That means you're really in.
- [45:27]
Hoda Kotb
Okay.
- [45:28]
Pat Forde
Jameis Winston's future as NFL future.
- [45:33]
Hoda Kotb
Oh, okay.
- [45:34]
Pat Forde
Jameis Winston's NFL future.
- [45:36]
Hoda Kotb
I'm in.
- [45:38]
Pat Forde
Oh, that's a tense debate.
- [45:39]
Hoda Kotb
No, I'm in.
- [45:40]
Pat Forde
Like, where he gets the keys to his own franchise. Again, in.
- [45:44]
Hoda Kotb
Well, you didn't say that. Now you're changing the. The question.
- [45:47]
Pat Forde
The game works.
- [45:49]
Hoda Kotb
I'm in.
- [45:50]
Pat Forde
In means he gets to start even when desean Watson's back.
- [45:55]
Hoda Kotb
Oh, I don't know if desean Watson's back.
- [45:57]
Pat Forde
So you're.
- [45:58]
Hoda Kotb
I'm in.
- [45:59]
Pat Forde
All right.
- [46:00]
Hoda Kotb
Extremely. Out. Out.
- [46:02]
Savannah Guthrie
Wow.
- [46:04]
Dan Patrick
I'm out.
- [46:06]
Hoda Kotb
I am in. The Lord will deliver more starts. Okay. All right. Okay. Corinthians.
- [46:13]
Pat Forde
Justin Tucker's future in the NFL.
- [46:16]
Hoda Kotb
Come in. I'm still in. Still. In.
- [46:21]
Jason Garrett
Out.
- [46:21]
Hoda Kotb
Out.
- [46:21]
Dan Patrick
In.
- [46:22]
Hoda Kotb
I'm in.
- [46:24]
Pat Forde
I should have said split the uprights or wide right.
- [46:28]
Hoda Kotb
Change the game.
- [46:29]
Pat Forde
No offense. All right.
- [46:30]
Jason Garrett
Too soon.
- [46:31]
Pat Forde
Here's a one. Here's one. I just thought of Russell Wilson winning the Comeback Player of the Year award. In, in or out?
- [46:38]
Hoda Kotb
Out. Did anybody almost die?
- [46:41]
Pat Forde
Russell died a perception death as an NFL starting quarterback.
- [46:45]
Hoda Kotb
Yeah, but did he die and come back to life a couple times, like tomorrow? Hamlin, who didn't even win.
- [46:50]
Jason Garrett
Win.
- [46:51]
Hoda Kotb
So, you know, is Joe Flacco still eligible?
- [46:55]
Jason Garrett
You know, I would say Russell Wilson should be eligible for that.
- [46:57]
Hoda Kotb
Yeah.
- [46:58]
Jason Garrett
This is. This is a massive comeback year for.
- [47:00]
Pat Forde
Him, Is he not. He's not eligible, is he?
- [47:02]
Jason Garrett
I don't know if he is or not.
- [47:03]
Pat Forde
Hold on, hold on. He may have a good point here.
- [47:05]
Jason Garrett
What if we did? Player who might not be eligible for comeback Player of the Year, but should be. You start Russell Wilson Jr III. I'll throw Sam Darnold on there.
- [47:15]
Hoda Kotb
Okay.
- [47:15]
Jason Garrett
That dude, he is having a comeback year if ever there was one.
- [47:18]
Hoda Kotb
Okay.
- [47:20]
Jason Garrett
I don't know who else could be on that poll question, but can Bryce.
- [47:23]
Hoda Kotb
Young win Comeback Player of the Year?
- [47:26]
Jason Garrett
Maybe. It feels a little early.
- [47:28]
Hoda Kotb
Okay.
- [47:28]
Jason Garrett
Feels a little early.
- [47:30]
Dan Patrick
Yes.
- [47:30]
Hoda Kotb
Marvin Saquon Barkley.
- [47:32]
Jason Garrett
Heck, yeah.
- [47:33]
Hoda Kotb
Yeah, I'd roll with that. Heck yeah.
- [47:35]
Pat Forde
So this is. You didn't lose a limb or a relative, but you just weren't that great.
- [47:41]
Hoda Kotb
Okay. More of a comeback Saquon Barkley or Russell Wilson. Junior iii, like, Russ was dead.
- [47:50]
Jason Garrett
Russ.
- [47:51]
Hoda Kotb
Russ. Yeah.
- [47:52]
Jason Garrett
It's really. It's really. To me, it's a question between Russell Wilson and Sam Darnold because he was dead in the water. And now, as a guy, I think.
- [47:59]
Pat Forde
Both are going to be free agents. Darnold and Russ.
- [48:02]
Hoda Kotb
Okay. Would you sign up Russell Wilson right now? Three years, $100 million. If you're Pittsburgh. Go around the room. Todd, in or out? Out. Seaton. Three years, 100 million.
- [48:19]
Jason Garrett
Three years, $100 million for Russell Wilson Jr. II in OR. What's the other option? Keeping Justin Fields.
- [48:27]
Hoda Kotb
Whatever they decide, they go elsewhere.
- [48:30]
Jason Garrett
Yeah, I'll throw him 100 mil. Why not, you know? Good for you, buddy.
- [48:35]
Hoda Kotb
Yeah. Yeah. Marvin.
- [48:36]
Dan Patrick
I'm in.
- [48:37]
Hoda Kotb
Pauling.
- [48:38]
Pat Forde
I'm in. That's 33 million a year. That's respectable.
- [48:41]
Hoda Kotb
I'm in.
- [48:41]
Pat Forde
Yeah, that's all right.
- [48:42]
Hoda Kotb
I'm in for Russell Wilson.
- [48:43]
Pat Forde
Catching on. In or out?
- [48:44]
Dan Patrick
Yes.
- [48:44]
Hoda Kotb
Ton. Would Russ Wilson embrace or be offended by a comeback player of the year award if he was to receive something like this? I think he'd be fine with that. I think he'd be okay. Yes, Paulie.
- [48:55]
Pat Forde
Here we go. In or out? Dan Lanning of Oregon is going to be a scorching hot NFL head coaching candidate in a few weeks.
- [49:01]
Hoda Kotb
If you keep mentioning it, then I think it might happen.
- [49:04]
Pat Forde
So we're. I'm making it happen.
- [49:05]
Hoda Kotb
You are making it happen.
- [49:06]
Pat Forde
I think he's going to be wildly hot as an NFL candidate in actually right now, but in a month from.
- [49:12]
Hoda Kotb
Now, I'm going to be out on that. I think he needs another year. Yeah.
- [49:17]
Pat Forde
While you might be right, he still could be scorching hot.
- [49:21]
Hoda Kotb
Marvin.
- [49:21]
Dan Patrick
I'm out.
- [49:22]
Hoda Kotb
Seaton.
- [49:24]
Jason Garrett
I'm out.
- [49:25]
Hoda Kotb
Todd. I'm out, too.
- [49:25]
Pat Forde
Okay, in, in, in. Okay, here's one. I'd rather watch the first round of the college football playoffs over. The first round of the NFL playoffs.
- [49:39]
Hoda Kotb
Todd. In a round. I am out. I gotta go. NFL player. All right, seat, no counter.
- [49:44]
Jason Garrett
So wait, if I'm. I'm in. I'm watching college football. If I'm out, I'm watching the NFL. Yeah, I'm in on watching college football.
- [49:52]
Hoda Kotb
Marvin.
- [49:54]
Dan Patrick
I'm out watching the NFL.
- [49:55]
Hoda Kotb
I'm watching the college football. I'm in.
- [49:58]
Pat Forde
There you go. Interesting. This is the last one. And this was. I put this one on. In or out? Five weeks ago, and everybody was out except for me. I was in. This will be LeBron James final season.
- [50:11]
Hoda Kotb
Todd, out. Sweet.
- [50:16]
Jason Garrett
I think I'm out.
- [50:17]
Hoda Kotb
Marvin, out.
- [50:19]
Dan Patrick
He definitely Announces it so he can get the tour.
- [50:21]
Hoda Kotb
Yeah, I'm, I'm out on this.
- [50:23]
Pat Forde
I mean, I think he announces at.
- [50:24]
Hoda Kotb
The All Star break that he's done this year.
- [50:26]
Pat Forde
Yep.
- [50:27]
Jason Garrett
It looks like he's done. Gotta admit.
- [50:29]
Hoda Kotb
Yeah, but you take away the last two weeks prior to that, he was one of the 10 best players in the game.
- [50:36]
Jason Garrett
Yeah. But now he stopped playing.
- [50:39]
Hoda Kotb
I just think he can't play. He wants to do what Michael Jordan did and play 82 games. And he shouldn't be playing 82 games or he shouldn't be averaging 35 minutes a game. Yes.
- [50:50]
Pat Forde
I think the 82 goal is all part of this being the last season. They're not. The Lakers are a mildly threatening game.
- [50:56]
Hoda Kotb
They're a seventh or eighth seeded team.
- [50:58]
Pat Forde
Right. I think he's aware, he's a smart guy, that he's not winning a title this year.
- [51:01]
Hoda Kotb
I think he would.
- [51:02]
Pat Forde
He got his son in the league. He's going to play 82 and out and go on to many, many other things.
- [51:07]
Hoda Kotb
Yes, Mark.
- [51:08]
Dan Patrick
I might be with Paulie if they didn't play in Cleveland. Like, had they had not played in Cleveland already, then I would have been with him. So I'm still out. I'm still.
- [51:17]
Hoda Kotb
Okay. I'm still. So Paulie thinks that this is LeBron's last year. He announces it at the All Star Game. Okay, that'd be a nice P bomb. Yeah, that'd be a nice P bomb.
- [51:28]
Pat Forde
He signed a three year contract tomorrow.
- [51:29]
Hoda Kotb
Yes. I feel like he's playing one more year. I agree with Marvin. It feels like it would be, hey, next year's my last year. Yeah. Yes. Right, Marvin. You see that?
- [51:42]
Dan Patrick
Yes. I definitely see him doing the Kobe tour.
- [51:44]
Hoda Kotb
Yeah.
- [51:44]
Jason Garrett
Might be one year too long.
- [51:46]
Hoda Kotb
Could be this year.
- [51:47]
Jason Garrett
Might be one year too long.
- [51:48]
Hoda Kotb
Well, question mark might be getting clicks. Dan Lebatard, he'll defend the U should the UB in the college football playoffs. And Jason Garrett, he'll join us as well. Final hour in this Wednesday. Right after this. Black Friday football on prime is back. This week, the Raiders and the Chiefs into the end zone. Unbelievable catch. An old school rivalry for a new game day. Firing Downfield Park Stream for free only on Prime. Great move. Black Friday football. Raiders vs. Chiefs. Kickoff at 3pm Eastern. Pregame at 1:30pm Friday only on Prime. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com watchblackfridayfootball for details.
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Hoda Kotb
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Pat Forde
And have a son.
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Hoda Kotb
That's not possible.
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Hoda Kotb
Where is he? Tell me. Love will cost you dearly. Love will cost your heart. But in the end, love will save the world.
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