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Right now my favorite is coming from a fellow here who said they strategically lacked effort. Okay, that would be tanking. Yeah, that could be. Utah Jazz did that this year. Strategically lacked effort. Yes, they did. But the Cavs blew out the Heat by 55 points. So that's the fourth largest margin of victory in a playoff game in NBA history. They also outscored the Heat by 122 points, the largest point differential in a playoff series in NBA history. Stat of the day. Stat of the day. Of the day. Stat of the day. Here comes what Stat of the day. Stat of the day. Brought to you by Panini America. Official trading cards to the Dan Patrick show. Now, I didn't expect this kind of blowout, but I did expect Cleveland to not have any issues with the Miami Heat. You know, keep in mind Miami was a play in team. They had 37 wins. Cleveland had 64 wins. Cleveland's a really good team. Everybody's waiting to see how they're going to do in the playoffs this next matchup here, you know, against Indiana. You know, people are going to have some trepidation there before they. I mean, they're doing that with OKC right now. We've seen it with the Celtics. Now we're waiting to see Cavaliers on that level, OKC on that level. I think that's what everybody's sort of waiting for here in the postseason. Bucks and the Pacers coming up tonight. Pistons, Knicks, Magic, Celtics, Clippers, and the Nuggets here was something that kind of got lost a little bit, I think, with the post draft coverage. And I don't know if you're aware of this, but you should be. Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred said he discussed Pete Rose with President Trump at a meeting two weeks ago. The commissioner plans to rule on a request to end the sport's permanent band of Pete Rose, who died in September. Speaking yesterday to the Associated Press, the commissioner said he and the president discussed several issues, including concerns over how immigration policies could impact players from Cuba, Venezuela and other foreign countries. The commissioner is considering a petition to have Rose posthumously removed from baseball's permanently ineligible list. The petition was filed in January. And we have talked about this many, many times. And I wondered, would he get in? And I was saying all along that if he got in, it would be posthumously, that the commissioner was not going to let Pete Rose go up there and give a speech. If anybody was going to do it, it'd be somebody in Pete's family after Peter died. But this just gets him back on the ballot. If they want to do that, fine, because people look at it as a lifetime ban. This is a permanent ban. So his lifetime. It's over, but he's still banned. That's why the permanent part of this is the key part of this. If this was a lifetime ban, well, his life has ended. Now, if you want to vote on this, you want to put him on the ballot. But the. The president's involved in this, and don't underestimate that, because the number of people who would love to have Pete in the hall of Fame, as opposed to those who would oppose this, I would say would be a pretty wide margin. Those in favor of Pete Rose, and I know we're. You know, we're shoulder deep in gambling here. And now moving forward, do we take away the permanent label, that word? Because If I'm the 1919 White Sox or Shoeless Joe Jackson, all of a sudden I go, hold on, hold on here. If you're a relative of Shoeless Joe Jackson, do you say, well, wait a minute here. You know, we had a permanent ban. You know, should it be a lifetime ban? Our life is over. Can somebody kind of pick up the baton here and get them into the Baseball hall of Fame? But that's going on right now. And could I see a scenario where the commissioner puts Pete or allows Pete to be eligible, Eligible for the ballot? Now, does he have a better chance, like the Veterans Committee? Are they going to look favorably to Pete all the years that he hijacked Cooperstown. You know, I'd like to know. You know, I'd like to get a consensus of how that's going to go with the Veterans Committee, because there are a lot of players who were not in Pete's corner because Pete never showed any contrition. He never really apologized. But that's. That's what made Pete great. You know, Lance Armstrong, he never apologized. Bonds never apologized. Clemens never. Like, that's what made them great. They needed to have that. You know, I didn't do anything wrong. You did. And, And Pete. Look, when he came on my radio show years ago and said that he bet on the Reds to win every game, and then people go, hey, well, that's what you want. Well, you can still manipulate the lineup. I mean, no, you can't bet on your team. But people, I think, thought that, well, at least he's not betting against his team that we know of. Do you think Pete would actually say, you know, I bet against my team a few times because you want to win your bets. You don't. You don't care. And would. I think Pete would put himself in a position like that? Yes, I would, because he was not a good gambler. But I think that this is probably headed towards Pete being eligible for the ballot. I do. I think that's where we're headed. Because when you meet with the president, the president wants this to happen. The president gets to take a victory lap. But he's also saying to the commissioner, hey, I can affect some of these other things that you're dealing with. You help me here, I'll help you here. And I truly think that's what's going to happen. I. I think this commissioner will put him on the ballot, and then he can wipe his hands clean of this. He can say, all right, you know, I listened to the president, we put him on the ballot, and I'm going to let the Veterans Committee decide. Now, would he be on the regular ballot or would he be on the Veterans Committee since he hasn't been on the regular baseball ballot? I would think you would. You should go through that process with Pete before you get to the Veterans Committee. Does it say anything about that? Paulie?

Dan Patrick (10:42)

We're checking. Back in 1991, the hall of Fame's Board of directors said anyone on the permanently ineligible list cannot be considered for the Hall. So that's why he was never on the ballot. We're checking what ballot he would be.

George M. Johnson (10:54)

On because if you just say, we're going to change it to a lifetime ban okay, you know the semantics of that. Because a permanent ban, it doesn't matter. Hey, you died, and you're posthumously going to be on the ballot. Now, that. That can't happen.

Dan Patrick (11:08)

If Rose is reinstated, it doesn't mean he would be automatically on the hall of Fame ballot. He would first have to be nominated by the Hall's Historical Overview Committee, which is the Baseball Writers Association. It's a small group. And then he would end up on the ballot. So he has to be voted to be on the ballot, to be beyond the ballot.

George M. Johnson (11:25)

All right. Yeah, I. I would just keep an eye out, because I think that's what's going to happen. I think this commissioner is probably going to decide to go, all right, let's just be done with this. Yeah, Paul.

Dan Patrick (11:38)

And the commissioner can really be done for it. If he reinstates Rose or. And then he doesn't make the ballot. It's not his decision to not vote him. It'd be a separate committee. He would have nothing to do with it.

George M. Johnson (11:50)

Well, gets phone calls. Albert Breer, Monday morning quarterback, had a lot of things, interesting things about Shador Sanders. Just to recap, kind of what we talked about first hour, I just wonder if Shador Sanders, Deion Sanders, had that guy in the room, in their inner circle, who was the guy who would tell you what you didn't want to hear. And he didn't have an agent. And sometimes that agent's job is to protect you from you. I remember, I thought that I was ready for a job, and my agent at the time said, look, I'm going to be honest with you. I don't know if you're ready for this. And, you know, your first thought is, I should get another agent. Like, I need to have somebody tell me what I want to hear. But he was telling me the truth. And, you know, while it humbles you and you're like, damn, okay, I had somebody who was honest with me. I don't know if Shador had that. If your dad is your biggest cheerleader and talking to these teams, maybe guiding these teams to your son or away from your son. Are you getting that honest truth of you didn't interview well. You don't come off as a great team player. You seem like you have other interest. You were distracted. It felt like maybe you wanted the teams to try to tell you why they wanted you instead of why you wanted to play for them. Like, you need to hear that. And I think, would that have helped him? Well, it can help him moving forward, but it could have helped him to at least understand what was going on in the draft. Because as we pointed out last hour, you don't get many second round quarterbacks because teams will use a quarterback in the first round, but second round, now you got to do team needs. If I didn't draft you in the first round, I'm probably not going to take you until the fourth round, fifth round. The difference is that's a franchise quarterback, that's a backup quarterback. And I believe since my, you know, source said I didn't have a first round grade for him, that meant that maybe teams viewed him as a backup or maybe teams didn't even think he was going to be there or for whatever reason, if it's true that owners, you know, told their staff to take him off their draft board for whatever, like what happened, that all of a sudden you're telling your, your scouting team, take him off our draft board. Are you following along with everybody else? Like, did you hear the story? Did you hear the story? Do you know what he did? Oh, but we'll talk to Albert Brear about that coming up. Jake in San Diego leads us off this hour. Hi, Jake. What's on your mind today? Hey, first time, long time. My five day old son is seven pounds and three ounces. Just two questions, wondering, one, if you had any advice for me for what to do with this little thing and secondly, if Aaron never doesn't sign with the Steelers, if Jordan Love, God forbid something happens to him, that he would sign with the packers in the middle of the season. Oh my God. I don't, I don't want to play the, if somebody gets hurt hypothetical around the league. Now, I did mention if Matthew Stafford, let's say, would get banged up, would you bring him in? Like there, there's certain situations where maybe that would happen, but I don't see that happening. Where Green Bay goes, do we want to go back into this? And I would say no, but it does feel like that the Steelers, given what's happened or what happened in the draft, that they're going, you know, hey, we'll take the kid out of Ohio State. But that's kind of a. Yeah, you know, who knows which I do like the draft pick. I mean, he did win a national championship, played for two different schools. I think he's athletic. I think he grew up a Steeler fan and, you know, probably thrilled to come in there and maybe he gets a chance. I think that's a really good pick. And here's the other thing. I already know what Mason Rudolph can Do like I already know if I'm the Steelers, like, okay, we got him and yeah, he's our quarterback. Maybe not he's a backup, but you know, you want to bring in Will Howard. I think it's a good pick. Not viewed as a starter. Maybe he can be a starter. And I think, you know, given what they have, you already know what your backup quarterbacks are all about. You're hoping for Rogers and then maybe, maybe you swing for the fences and you get a quarterback who can come in and maybe in two years he's playing. Yes, Mark. And I think Brock Purdy succeeding has given a lot of these late round draft picks hope. And now they can say, hey, I can beat Brock Purdy instead of the other really famous late round quarterback which is Tom Brady. And you don't want to have that type of expectations. You know what? I could breed Brock Purdy if I get the opportunity. Yes. Todd, from a fan standpoint in Pittsburgh, if Aaron Rodgers does eventually become a Steelers all forgiven and they're all immediately all in and we love Aaron Rodgers or because this took so long, you think there's going to be bitterness? Well, I don't know if they have any other choice but to bring him in. I mean, you gotta back him. I don't, I don't know if there's anything else you can do. I mean, Mason Rudolph is not the answer and they can pretend that he is, but he's not. You could have taken other quarterbacks in the draft. I just think they're getting Aaron Rodgers and praying that he stays healthy. But we thought that that would happen after the draft because I said at least what I was told is Aaron's not going to sign before the draft. He wants to make sure, he wants to see what the Steelers do. Whether this is true or not. This is what I was told. Are they going to take a quarterback a little bit higher? Would they use a first round draft pick? Because we thought maybe Jackson Dart was going to go to the Steelers, maybe Shador Sanders would, would go there. I don't know if that would had an impact on Aaron Rodgers, but I think that you have to factor that in. If I'm Rogers, I'm like, I don't have to hurry. You know, I can meet with the Steelers, I can talk to the Steelers and I just want to. And he's probably just going to survey the landscape here. If somebody happens to get injured in training camp, he wants to win another super bowl, are you going to do that in Pittsburgh? And I think that's why he wanted Minnesota, because Minnesota is closer to winning a Super bowl than Pittsburgh.

Dan Patrick (18:42)

Yeah, Paulie and the Steelers spent most of their draft on the defense. Yes, running back, quarterback, then all defense and DK Metcalf in the off season. They're poised to plug in somebody.

George M. Johnson (18:52)

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Tiffany Stratton (24:52)

So I, I would actually give Cleveland an A to be able to get what they got and we'll see what becomes of I. The two guys that got form were Mason Graham and Quin Sean Judkins. We'll see what becomes the players they got from. But you know, I think that they were really in a position where they had to reset their roster a little and they're starting to feel the effects now of all those first round picks going out the window for DeSean Watson where they're aging in certain spots, they're aging a little bit on their offensive line, they've aged on their defensive line, they've aged a bit in their secondary, they aged at running back. And so like I like they had to find a way to reset their roster a little and this effectively does it now. You know, walking away from, you know, one of the two true blue chip players in this draft I'm sure wasn't easy, you know, but they wind up with Mason Graham and Judkins and they'll have a another first round pick next year. And depending on how good Jacksonville is, that could wind up being a high first round draft pick. We'll see. So I, I just think, you know, if you want to talk about the logic behind it, it's pretty easy. Easy to see what the Browns logic was. I would give the, I give The Jaguars, a B plus. And here's why I love Travis Hunter as a player. I think on the high end, you're going to get a truly unique, like just a unicorn, you know, like, and I know that's a little redundant, right, a unique unicorn, but like, you're getting one of these guys that, like, there's never really been one of these before. If he hits on all cylinders, but even if he doesn't, you have a lot of cracks at getting it right because there's so many different things that you can do with him. So I love that for them. My question is, are they in that position yet where they should be taking this sort of swing? In other words, like Liam Cohen, James Gladstone came from the Rams where they were known for taking these sorts of swings, but when they took these sort of swings, they were on veteran players and it was a team and it was with a team that was in position to win right now. And so the question is, do the Jaguars now think they're closer than maybe the general public does to truly competing, to maybe knocking off the Texans in the AFC south, to being a contender? And you know, obviously a lot of that's going to come down to what Liam Cohen gets out of Trevor Lawrence, but maybe they think that, you know, so if you're Jacksonville and you think you're closer than the general public does, then this move makes a ton of sense because, you know, Travis Hunter might be a player that can put you over the top and then, you know, maybe that pick next year is in the 20s rather than being in the top 10. So. So we'll see on that.

George M. Johnson (27:25)

When did you realize that Chidor was falling?

Tiffany Stratton (27:30)

February. I know that sounds crazy. February. I like, I don't know. I was like everybody else in December and January thinking, okay, is it going to be Cam or should do or, you know, being the first quarterback off the board. The more people I talked to when I started do my research on the draft class, which really, I try to do it all year, but it really kind of gets going once the season ends. The more people I talked to said this, he's just not a first round talent. Now, people would have said the same thing about Bo Nix the year before. And I think I said this to you guys. I said there's a bunch of different places. Like I would say he could go third or 33rd. And the reason I said that is because I didn't think he was going in the first round, you know, and you really, what I meant by that was like, maybe he finds the fit the way that Bo Nix did. And no one's going to argue with where Bonix went now because of the rookie year he had. And there was a team that fit him perfectly. He found that team, they found him and you know, now they live happily ever after. But absent finding that team, he wasn't a good enough physical prospect to go in the first round. He wasn't what you normally see in a first round quarterback. And a lot of people were just whistling by the graveyard on that. But it was what it was all along. And now here's the other part of it Dan is if he's not a first round pick and he's got to go find his fit, does it make any sense for him to be thinning the herd? Which effectively is what they were doing, you know, over the last couple of months the way they were handling some of their meetings. And so you know, I think that that was a mistake. I think another piece of it is, you know, how you view your backup and what you expect from your backup and how most coaches want their backup to blend in with the furniture. And you know, most coaches would say, you know, you, you know, you put two, two quarterbacks in front of them. One's a celebrity, one's an anonymous player. You say it's going to be the second or third quarterback in your roster. Most coaches will say give me the anonymous guy. You know, it's just the way it is. So I think there were a number of factors in why he fell. But I'd say first round, second rounds about talent, performance and then after that it's about everything else. Yeah.

George M. Johnson (29:35)

And that's what I brought up because my source said that didn't have a first round grade.

Tiffany Stratton (29:40)

Yeah.

George M. Johnson (29:40)

And there aren't a lot of quarterbacks who were taken in the second round because you're either first round worthy or you're backup worthy. And that's where you get into the fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh round. And I think that's what happened with Shador is he wasn't Jackson darter Cam Ward but he wasn't going to be Jalen hurts kind of lingering there in the second round. He was going to be viewed as a guy who was probably going to be a backup quarterback. But did the media get duped here? Because if you consider Mel Kuiper, you know, is still shouting from the mountaintops. There are a lot of people who had Shador in the first round and, and that that became a story because now everybody's shocked that he dropped as far as he did, but it almost felt like the media in general was eating what Dion was serving.

Tiffany Stratton (30:32)

Yeah. And it was good for business too, right?

George M. Johnson (30:34)

Yeah.

Tiffany Stratton (30:34)

Like Shador is a 5th round pick, isn't. I mean he's, you know, at that point he's case Keenum, which is a highly productive, good college quarterback who's not going to be a high draft pick, you know, so, I mean, I would say this is sort of a symbiotic thing, you know, where, you know, Shador's camp probably felt like it was good for him to be presented as if he was going to be a top five, top ten pick and like that, that was a lock. Like they felt like that was good for them. Now it wound up being bad for them, you know, because I think it affected a lot of other things. But that was also good for business in the media, wouldn't you say, Dan? I mean. Well, the draft didn't have a lot of sex appeal. Right. Like this, let's call it what it is. Like, this was a draft that was heavy on linemen, that didn't have very many blue chip guys. Travis Hunter is really interesting, but like are, is, is Abdul Carter as good as he is? Is he drape driving ratings? No. The fourth picks an offensive tackle. The, you know, the, the, the, the fifth picks a defensive tackle. The seventh pick is an offensive tackle, and I picks an offensive tackle. Like, something's got to drive the boat here, you know, and, and I think it was a part of it is. It's good for business for all of us. I mean, I, I'm, I'm not exempt from it either. I wrote a lot about Chidor and I talked a lot about Chador and I went on TV a lot about Chidor over the last two months. It was good for business that way.

George M. Johnson (31:54)

Talking to Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback, help me understand the Steelers quarterback room right now.

Tiffany Stratton (32:01)

Yeah. So I, I think it's a pretty good tell that they feel good about where they stand with Aaron Rodgers right now. And I think Kirk Cousins would loom as a, as sort of a fallback option if Aaron Rodgers, if that doesn't play out the way that it does. But I think we should listen to what Aaron said too, which is, I've got some personal things that I'm trying to work out. And you wish he had said that at the beginning because it probably would have, you know, saved a lot of the noise from getting out there over the last couple months. But he did say it and I think we can all respect it. And I'll respect, like, whatever he's going through in his personal life. And, you know, I, I think in that case, like, you know, he's going through that in his personal life. Well, maybe it would make sense then that he would be waiting on signing with a team because, you know, the minute he signs with the Steelers, if he signs with the Steelers three weeks ago and says, okay, I'm going to handle his personal matter and then I'm going to show up, well, what does the narrative then become? Well, he's not here for the off season program. OTAs are starting. He's not here for that. The veteran minicamp, is it going to be a circus because of that? I mean, it. I could see where, you know, if he, like, again, taking it at face value, he's handling a personal matter here, I could see where it probably makes the most sense for everybody to take a step back a little bit and say, like, it just doesn't make sense for us to sign you right now because it's going to turn the volume up on everybody. And we don't need that right now. You don't need it. We don't need it. Let's just let sleeping dogs lie. And then, you know, I think as far as the Kirk Cousins thing goes, I mean, where we are right now with that, like the Cleveland Browns, which are the most logical suitor, they have a full quarterback room right now. The Vikings just traded for Sam Howell. And I think under certain circumstances, the Vikings would have considered bringing Kirk back as a backup. And so, like, the Steelers can kind of sit here and say, okay, like, well, you know, if something goes wrong in the Aaron Rodgers situation, we could still revisit Kirk Cousins. So they've got a couple options out there for themselves. And, you know, then I, I know, you know, like, I, I don't see him going into season with Mason Rudolph as, as the starter, but at least they've got a guy they've got experience with there.

George M. Johnson (34:09)

What do you do if you're the NFL to the Atlanta Falcons when the phone numbers got out and your defensive coordinator son is videotaping him and his friends calling these, these jobs?

Tiffany Stratton (34:24)

I mean, I don't know. You know, in some ways I, I like, I think we all did that. We all did stupid stuff when we were that age. So I hate to kill the kid. You know what I mean? Like, I probably would have thought it was hilarious when I was 20 years old, too. You know what I mean? Like, so, like, I have sympathy for Shador in this situation. I also, you know, like, I also see this as, like, this isn't a capital crime. Now there is a security issue, you know, so that's something the NFL has to clean up. How these things get out. There's a million different ways it can happen. That it was a burner phone, I think obviously points to. Okay, like, well, if he only had this phone over the week leading up to the draft, then it had to come from somewhere. And, you know, I think this is. If it did come from an NFL email, then the league office has to look inward too. And how they're distributing those things and are they being a little careless about distributing them? I, you know, I think we have to be open to the idea that it's an honest mistake if you leave a tablet open and. Which is what they said, I think. Right. Was an iPad. If you leave a tablet open and your kid walks by it, I mean, you know, again, is that a capital crime? It's sloppy, but, like, it's not a capital crime, you know, so it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a weird story. It's a weird thing. But, you know, I, I, like, there's just a huge part of me that looks at this and says, like, let's just all move on. This is so stupid. It doesn't. I mean, is in stable condition right now. I would say right after, after, after what happened on that phone call, the.

George M. Johnson (35:59)

Niners paid George Kittle.

Tiffany Stratton (36:01)

Yeah.

George M. Johnson (36:01)

I didn't know if maybe they were going to do it in reverse order and pay Rock Purdy and then you pay George Kittle. But what do you make of the Niners making George Kittle the highest paid tight end?

Tiffany Stratton (36:14)

Well, I think it's like sort of a acknowledgment of who he is as a player and what he's done for the organization. And as a guy who's going to turn 32 years October, you know, we still trust you. You know, we still trust that you're going to do everything you need to do because it's going to get harder as you get older to get yourself ready to be one of the best tight ends in football. Now on paper, you know, what this really is is it's a bump and it's, you're going to be on the team in 2026. Like, he knows he's going to be on the team this year. This essentially assures that he's going to be on the team in 2026. So he gets a nice pay raise. You're going to be on the team the next two years. Then after that we'll see. It's trumpeted as a four year extension. It does not mean he's going to be on the team when he's 38 years old. So, you know, I think as much as anything else, this is sort of the gold watch deal. You know what I mean? Like, this is the deal where you say we love you. You're going to be a part of our organization forever. You've got a legacy here. We're going to reward you one last time. We're going to give you the security of knowing you're going to be here for the next two years and we'll see after that.

George M. Johnson (37:19)

The Bill Belichick book where Robert Kraft is not even in the acknowledgments. What do you make of that exchange that he had with the Sunday morning the CBS Morning show?

Tiffany Stratton (37:35)

Well, I mean, was it Georgia Tech against Cumberland and the Was that the 222 to nothing game?

George M. Johnson (37:41)

Right. Yeah.

Tiffany Stratton (37:42)

Like I would say that would be sort of the same matchup as CBS News against the people who are running Belichick's interview there. That makes sense.

George M. Johnson (37:54)

Well, okay, wait a minute.

Tiffany Stratton (37:55)

Now.

George M. Johnson (37:56)

His girlfriend's job, I would think is to troubleshoot. She heads up his pr. Yeah. You have to have, let's go through the potential questions. You're going to get Bill, right? I'm going to ask you the questions and then we are going to cobble together an answer. Yeah, Bill. Bill seemed shocked and then he also when the, you know, they followed up by asking, you know, and if it.

Tiffany Stratton (38:22)

Is true, if it is true that the reason this got out and the reason they shot that they shot her off camera is because it was non stop interrupting and there was a real problem for them. Well, that's not the way like a professional in that situation acts. Like if you have like a publicist or a PR person who's handling that for you, I mean, you know this as well as I do. Dan. You've sat down in these like sorts of interviews before. I mean they're very, they're usually very professional. And if there is a PR person or a publicist there for the person who is, is being interviewed, that person's not interrupting. That person has an idea of everything that's going on with everybody there in a lot of cases has a relationship with the network, you know what I mean? Like, so they're working through all of that stuff.

George M. Johnson (39:06)

But Bill should have been prepared for that question. That's the point.

Tiffany Stratton (39:10)

Yeah. And I. That part of it is even him.

George M. Johnson (39:14)

Getting fired, Albert, he didn't even have an answer for that because they let him go. And he goes, mutual. Mutual. Yeah.

Tiffany Stratton (39:21)

Yeah. But that part of it, I'm not sure he would have answered that differently. Like, I, I. That felt. Did that not feel to you like a little bit of knife twisting? Like, you know, with. With. With Kraft? Like, it just felt to me like I know what he doesn't want to hear here, so I'm gonna. I'm. I'm gonna twist the knife. That's what it felt like to me.

George M. Johnson (39:41)

Yeah.

Tiffany Stratton (39:42)

I mean, and we know the guy knows how to hold a grudge, right? I mean, so I, like, I.

George M. Johnson (39:47)

It.

Tiffany Stratton (39:47)

It felt to me like just watching it and knowing. And knowing Bill and having, you know, been around professionally, around Bill for the last 20 years, like. Like, he generally doesn't say a lot of things by mistake. And that correct answer was like, basically like, yeah, I did it, and I meant to do it, and I did it for a reason.

George M. Johnson (40:11)

She just has to be better. If you're gonna. If you're gonna be his sounding board, you have to say to him, they're gonna ask you these questions, Right? You know, you're preparing for a deposition.

Tiffany Stratton (40:23)

Well, and if I'm. If I'm in the room, they're going to ask about me, right?

George M. Johnson (40:26)

Well, I'm sure. But, you know, I. She could have been hands off from the standpoint of, this is a book about Bill and winning. This has nothing to do with her, their relationship, or North Carolina.

Tiffany Stratton (40:39)

Right.

George M. Johnson (40:39)

But now would I still ask because she's interrupting. I probably would have said, why don't you come over here and sit down with us? Because you're disrupting the interview. Either be in the interview or get out of the room.

Tiffany Stratton (40:55)

Right. It also. It also sort of makes Bill look weak, doesn't it?

George M. Johnson (40:59)

Like, I just.

Tiffany Stratton (41:00)

I mean, it does. Like, we can call it what it is. Like, if you're talking about, like, making him look good, that wasn't happening either. You know, like, let him answer the question.

George M. Johnson (41:09)

He's the most prepared coach we've ever had.

Tiffany Stratton (41:13)

And. And you don't. And, like, you don't think he knew that could be asked? Of course he did.

George M. Johnson (41:18)

Of course he did.

Tiffany Stratton (41:20)

I mean, like, if he's putting. If he's parking her 10ft from the camera, like, then he has to know, like, they're kind of. They could ask about that. And maybe they will, maybe they won't, but they could ask about that.

George M. Johnson (41:35)

So isn't it absurd that we're actually talking about this? If I would have said to you, hey, three years ago, hey, you know what's going to happen with Bill? He's going to meet this girl on a plane and he's, he's not going to get back in the NFL. He's going to leave the Patriots and he's going to coach at North Carolina and we're going to talk about how she's running.

Tiffany Stratton (41:56)

Well, you look at so interesting.

George M. Johnson (41:57)

And those pictures on the, on the beach where they're posing like we had.

Michael Kasson (42:01)

The, we had that.

Tiffany Stratton (42:02)

We had that thing like Brady Kraft, Belichick for all those years and everything else. And who's, I mean, like, who's the one that's like winning that again? I guess that's another Georgia Tech versus Cumberland. Right? Like, it's like is Brady is now a part owner of the Raiders. Was, was, you know, just part of hiring a head coach and a general manager. And, you know, the other two guys are sort of engaged in this.

George M. Johnson (42:25)

It's just, it is crazy.

Tiffany Stratton (42:28)

It feels to me like the theater of the absurd. I mean, it just like if we can all be again, like if we can all be honest about this, it's like there's no way. There's no way. Five years ago, if you had told me that this is where we would be, you know, and five years ago is when Brady walked out the door. If you had told me, like this would be the, this was where we would be left five years later, I would have, I would have said that sounds like a, that sounds like a Saturday Night Live skit. I mean, it's just unbelievable.

George M. Johnson (42:59)

Good to chat with you. We'll talk to you in the off season. Thank you again, Albert.

Tiffany Stratton (43:03)

All right, thanks, Dan.

George M. Johnson (43:04)

That's Albert Brear. He is the Monday morning quarterback. We'll take a break. We're back after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio Apple.

Michael Kasson (43:19)

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Wilmer Valderrama (43:50)

It'S nostalgia overload as Wilmer Valderrama and Freddie Rodriguez welcome another amigo to their podcast, Dos Amigos. Wilmer's friend and former that 70s show castmate Topher Grace stops by the speakeasy for a two part interview to discuss his career and reminisce about old times.

Tiffany Stratton (44:06)

We were still in that place of like, what will this experience become? And you go, you're having the best time. But it was like such a perfect golden time.

Wilmer Valderrama (44:14)

Listen to Dos amigos on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

Freddie Prinze Jr. (44:19)

Wrestling fans all over the globe, It's Freddie Prinze Jr. And on wrestling with Freddie, we're breaking down every Damn moment from WrestleMania 41. Two nights non stop chaos, legends, surprises, emotions and some of the best wrestling we've seen coming from wwe. We've got takes, we've got questions, and we have a whole lot of love for what these and women pulled off at Mania. Tiffany Stratton, she earned her stripes at Wrestlemania and I don't mean because she won. She bled for her art and it always felt like to me, after the Attitude era, once a wrestler gets cut and you see real blood coming out of their mouth or real blood coming out of their head, the crowd kind of goes, hey, respect. And they kind of give you that nod, right?

George M. Johnson (45:06)

You go, wow, every one of these.

Freddie Prinze Jr. (45:08)

Guys is bleeding, bro. That's literally like blood, sweat and tears.

Tiffany Stratton (45:12)

That's all they got is blood.

Freddie Prinze Jr. (45:14)

We're talking Cody, we're talking Rhea, Roman, Seth, Tiffany. The future of the business is bright. And if you watched Mania and you're still buzzing or if you missed it and want to know what went down, we got you. Listen to this episode of Wrestling with Freddy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.

George M. Johnson (45:34)

And the dream season is now complete. The Golden State warriors are the 2015.

Dan Patrick (45:39)

NBA champion on the new limited podcast series Dub dynasty.

George M. Johnson (45:43)

It's been 10 years since their shocking.

Dan Patrick (45:44)

Run to a championship.

George M. Johnson (45:46)

We examine the controversial move that made it possible. It's never a great conversation as a.

Tiffany Stratton (45:51)

Player when you hear that you're being.

George M. Johnson (45:52)

Benched for the entire behind the scenes.

Dan Patrick (45:55)

Story of Golden State's incredible 10 year run. Listen to Dub Dynasty on the iHeartRadio.

George M. Johnson (46:00)

App, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. On November 5, 2018 at 6:33am, a red Volkswagen Golf was found abandoned in a ditch out in Sleep Hole Valley. The driver's seat Door was open. No traces of footsteps leaving the vehicle. No belongings were found, except for a cassette tape lodged in the player. On that tape were 10 vile.

Tiffany Stratton (46:36)

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

George M. Johnson (46:40)

Grotesque.

Tiffany Stratton (46:41)

Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

George M. Johnson (46:44)

Horrific stories that to this day have been kept restricted from the public until now, you feel in this too, a horror anthology podcast. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know, we talk about Shador Sanders sliding. I think one of the biggest slides, and it's been overshadowed by Shador Sanders, is Quinn Ewers. Because a year ago, if we looked at mock drafts, Quinn Ewers is going in the first round and maybe viewed as the number one quarterback. And as the season progressed and you weren't seeing his name up high in mock drafts. That's where somebody's got to be honest with the kid or the family. And saying, you're sliding and you might want to. I said it on the show. He should try to play one more year, get four or five million dollars playing college football. Maybe you can go up the draft board, whatever you needed to work on. Go back to college and play one more year. He slides to what, seventh round? Yeah.

Dan Patrick (48:01)

Paulie, I have a few different NFL draft profiles of Queen yours, including NFL.com's Lance Zerline, who's kind of an expert. He says late round two, round three, expectation for him being picked.

George M. Johnson (48:15)

Oops, that's a big slide. So you can look at Shador Sanders. He at least went in the fourth round. Quinn, yours, seventh round. It's a big, big drop. But, you know, he doesn't have famous dad, and there wasn't a lot of hype about him and everything that goes along with Shador Sanders. And Shador Sanders was great for ratings. Hijacked, unintentionally hijacked the draft. But there were other quarterbacks, certainly Quinn Ewers, that they went a lot lower than we thought they were going to. But who did he end up going to? Miami. He might get a chance. Like, I don't. I don't rule it out anymore because nobody stays healthy enough to play the entire season. And certainly with tua, you the odds of him getting a chance to play a little bit higher. Although you got Zach Wilson in front of you. Did Zach Wilson take the number 0I. I think he did. Can you see if that's his new number in Miami? 0 as in 0 Fs to give. Oh, that's right. News act in town. Do you see it, Paulie? Zach Wilson's new number. Oh, man. If it's true, that's where you have to have somebody saying, not a good idea. Zero. No. Zero. Yes, Marvin. Zach Wilson will wear number zero for the Miami Dolphins. Where are the grown ups in the room here? Actually, it's usually better when grown ups stay out of these things, but sometimes you want to grown up, to be honest with you. Yes, Todd. Yeah. Other than Marcus Mariota, second person to do that. Yeah, I just quarterback. Given what happened with the jets, you don't want to be known as a zero. Like, you just don't, don't. Don't get close to that fire.

Dan Patrick (50:26)

You're too close to negative numbers.

George M. Johnson (50:30)

Minus one. Yes, Marvin. What number would you have wanted him to take? I. It doesn't matter. Just anything but zero. Yeah. Like eight. Infinity. Yes.

Dan Patrick (50:42)

Don't be clueless and ask for 13. That would be much worse.

George M. Johnson (50:44)

Yeah, that would be bad. Could I have 13? Excuse me. Are you being serious? Yeah. Who did. Wait, did Chad Pennington have that? No. Dan Marino. Dan. Okay, more phone calls coming up. Zero. Can't do zero. Ah, two hours in the books on this Tuesday. New poll question coming up. More of your phone calls as well. Yes. Fritzi is here today. Seaton, Marv, Paulie, yours truly, and of course, the back room guys. The final hour on this Tuesday, right after this.

Michael Kasson (51:22)

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Wilmer Valderrama (51:52)

It's nostalgia overload as Wilmer Valderrama and Freddie Rodriguez welcome another amigo to their podcast, Dos Amigos. Wilbur's friend and former that 70s show castmate Topher Grace stops by the speakeasy for a two part interview to discuss his career and reminisce about old times.

Tiffany Stratton (52:08)

We were still in that place of like, what will this experience become? And you go, you're having the best time. But it was like such a perfect golden time.

Wilmer Valderrama (52:16)

Listen to Dos amigos on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Freddie Prinze Jr. (52:22)

What's up, prederation? It's Freddie Prinze Jr. And wrestling with Freddie is back and we're going all in on WrestleMania 41. From the unpredictable to jaw dropping finishes, this year's mania might have just changed everything. By the way, almost all the matches that we saw looked like real fights. I thought like they were like, yo, we're going hard today, Tomorrow we're going to hurt, but we're going hard today because it was like beast mode times 10 out there. Listen to this episode of Wrestling with Freddy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

George M. Johnson (52:54)

I'm ready to fight. Oh, this is Fighting words. Okay, I'll put the hammer back. Hi, I'm George M. Johnson, a best selling author with the second most banned book in America. Now more than ever, we need to use our voices to fight back.

Tiffany Stratton (53:07)

Part of the power of black queer creativity is the fact that we got us.

George M. Johnson (53:12)

You know, we are the greatest culture makers in world history. Listen to Fighting words on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

Michael Kasson (53:27)

I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of.

George M. Johnson (53:29)

3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode I'm joined by Angeli Sud, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming.

Wilmer Valderrama (53:43)

What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. Their so many stories out there and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content.

Tiffany Stratton (53:54)

The term that we always hear from.

Wilmer Valderrama (53:56)

Our audience is that they feel seen.

George M. Johnson (53:58)

Listen to Good company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.