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Marvin (4:34)

Well, the Knicks, they shouldn't get too happy yet because the Sixers lost their first two games to the Celtics by like, 30 points in each of those games. So if there's any team that knows how to come back from bad losses, it's the 76ers. And Tyrese Maxey was not aggressive last night. I think he shot nine times last night in total.

Dan Patrick (4:53)

Yeah. And I thought that Tyrese Maxey with Joel Embiid doing a lot of pick and roll, pick and pop, all of those things, taking advantage of Brunson, Carl, Anthony Towns, but it didn't happen. I mean, the Knicks got out early and never let off the accelerator. And it's impressive. And you can't help but think you. You're thinking ahead can't help but do this because you don't have Boston. You look at Detroit as, okay, formidable regular season, maybe not as formidable in the postseason. You've got your path to the finals. You're like, Cleveland, Detroit, 76ers. We can get by them. And then you take your chances in the NBA Finals. What was it, 1999, the last time the Knicks played in the finals against San Antonio didn't have Patrick Ewing. And Latrell Sprewell was the big star back then, wasn't he? Marvin Him.

Caller (5:53)

Alan.

Dan Patrick (5:53)

Houston. Houston.

Marvin (5:54)

A young Marcus Camby, an older Larry.

Dan Patrick (5:58)

Larry Johnson, that was close to being a really, really good team.

Marvin (6:03)

Were the eighth seed that season.

Dan Patrick (6:04)

Isn't that amazing?

Marvin (6:05)

Well, here's the thing. They were eight seed. Almost like the magic word, eight seed this year because it was a lockout season and they got. Got off to a slow start. So it was like, oh, they're an eight seed. Ah, just a bad regular season.

Dan Patrick (6:17)

Yes. Paul.

Paulie (6:18)

Yeah, that next team was Sprewell, Allen, Houston, Camby, Larry Johnson, Charlie Ward, Kurt Thomas, Chris Childs. Your Spurs, Dan. Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Mario Ellie, Avery Johnson, Sean Elliott, and of course, Steve Kerr.

Dan Patrick (6:35)

Dang. Wait, so there's no Parker Ginobili, neither. They were after.

Paulie (6:42)

Yeah, just after.

Dan Patrick (6:43)

Okay.

Paulie (6:44)

Duncan was 22 years old.

Dan Patrick (6:45)

Yeah. I remember going to a Spurs practice when Duncan got there, and I remember after the practice, Vinny Del Negro invited me down. So, you know, I'm watching this spurs practice at the end of practice, Duncan's rookie year. He's carrying all the equipment, so they're treating him like a rookie there. I don't know if it's hazing, but he had to. He had to get all the basketballs together. He's carrying laundry, all the towels, and you're looking at, you know, one of the 10 greatest players of all time, but they traded him just like a rookie. Yeah, Paulie, I. I think we may

Paulie (7:23)

have underrated Tim Duncan's rookie year. 97, 98. He averaged 21 and 12. He was rookie of the year. He was fifth for MVP. He was fifth for defensive player of the year. He was first team all NBA as a rookie.

Dan Patrick (7:38)

But he suffers from the. He was just fundamentally sound. He was just so economically great. You know, David Robinson would give you wow plays. Timmy never did that. It'd be like a crisp bank shot or something. That. And if he had a block, it was a block to keep it in bounds, keep it in play. You know, there's a difference between the guillotine and water torture. And Duncan was water torture. Just drip, drip, drip, drip, drip. And he never sought publicity. Didn't like doing interviews. Really. That whole franchise, when you think about it, I mean, Parker and Ginobly, they didn't get much national attention. David did. I mean, David to this day. Fritz, he could call up David and probably get him on the show. Just a wonderful person and. And enjoyed talking. Timmy. Even to this day, he has no interest. He's like, nah, I'm good. Yeah, Paul.

Paulie (8:39)

Tim Duncan is like Mike Trout with winning. No offense. It's similar careers. Spotless. Didn't want the focal point, but always in the playoffs. Tim Duncan.

Dan Patrick (8:49)

But if Mike Trout had David Robinson and Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker might have, you know, played in a couple

Paulie (8:55)

of World Series there are they great hitters. Big strike zone on Robinson.

Dan Patrick (9:00)

Big, big strike zone. Yes, Marvin.

Marvin (9:02)

But Mike Trout had Shohei Ohtani fourth time.

Dan Patrick (9:04)

I know he did. I know he did. Shohei Ohtani in a slump here. I don't think he's had a hit in like five or six games.

Marvin (9:11)

Overrate.

Dan Patrick (9:13)

I wonder if Ohtani the pitcher ever overshadows Ohtani the hitter. This might be the year. But I wonder about that. When you talk about Ohtani, you know, just how great he is as a hitter, but as a pitcher, if he is really focused on pitching, I wonder if he can not surpass what he's done as a hitter. That'll never happen. But what if he wins the Cy Young now? He's the overwhelming favorite to be the MVP again this year. Yes. Paulie.

Paulie (9:47)

Yeah. Shoe Ohtani, this year, he's got five starts, 30 innings. His ERA is 0.60.

Dan Patrick (9:54)

Yeah. Oh, yep.

Paulie (9:55)

Quietly.

Dan Patrick (9:56)

Yes. Yes. Because we always.

Marvin (9:59)

You're.

Dan Patrick (9:59)

You're showing him hitting home runs usually. But great moment with the Yankees game where the Bleacher fans shouted out John Sterling last night. They usually do that for roll call with, you know, the players on the team that. They did that for John Sterling, who passed away yesterday at the age of 87. A lot of tributes for John, and rightfully so, because that singular voice is really rare as we move forward. You know, growing up, we always had that, depending on where you lived, that you had that voice. I mean, Los Angeles got spoiled. Chick Hearn, Vin Scully. I grew up in Cincinnati, had Marty Brennaman, Joe Nuxall, yet Harry Carey, Harry Callis. I mean, Joe Buck, Jack Buck. But to have a singular voice, certainly for baseball, because baseball is more of a. A companion type listening sport because it's daily 162 games. And, and, and so your radio becomes your companion. That voice on your radio becomes your companion. And you certainly had that with John. I mean, John loved what he did. I don't know if he ever had a bad day when he was doing a Yankee broadcast. He truly loved it. And I know some people pointed out, Aaron Judd said he kind of brought Broadway to Yankee Stadium with him. Yes, Dylan.

Dylan (11:34)

And I think baseball, of all the sports, lends itself to radio. Like, the pace of it lends itself to radio way better. Like, I don't know if you've listened to a hockey game on radio, it's tough. It's just too much movement. So you can actually kind of take your time with stuff.

Dan Patrick (11:48)

It's still too much movement. When I'm watching hockey last night, I'm trying to watch, you know, and you're just going, I'm watching Philadelphia's up to nothing. And then all of a sudden the Hurricanes come back to win 3 2. But I'm old trying to follow the puck. And, you know, I marvel at play by play announcers who do hockey on radio. I absolutely marvel because it is constant and you got to describe everything. Whereas tv, you're afforded the luxury of we can see a shot on goal or a save or, you know, somebody collides with somebody. But on radio, you have to describe everything. And that's why Doc Emmerich was brilliant. First of all, the most selfless person I've ever met in this business. It was all about the sport. It was doing it right, it was doing justice to it, that he never was going to use the same description twice. He had to have the right word at the right time. And he did it over and over and over and over and over and, and just a wonderful person to be around, one of the nicest people you ever be around. But he had a gift to be able to see and say at the same time and, and not lose. He never lost himself or, or tried to become bigger than the moment. And I remember, you know, I got a chance to spend a lot of time with him at the Olympics in London and go to dinner with him and, and meet the person just like Al Michaels. Like, I mean, imagine that I, I'm, I get to host the Olympics. I, it's my first Olympics, and I go to dinner either with Al Michaels or, or Mike every single night and just sit there and listen because I didn't have anything to say. I wanted them to say, I wanted them to talk. And it was one of the greatest experiences I'VE ever had because I got Doc Emmerich, who might be the greatest play by play guy of all time. And even Al, who is not shabby. Al acknowledges Doc Emmerich's brilliance as well. But just to listen to them talk and they have. There's certain guys who have an unbelievably photo photographic memory. And Al is one of the top people I've ever met. He'll tell you the weather. When I said, oh, remember when the Pirates they played the Orioles? He goes, what game? And I'd be like, game three. Oh man, it was over, Cat. And I'm like, oh my God. He was. He's unbelievable. Bob Costas is like that as well. They're just certain people who have this photographic memory. And you know, even Doc Emmerich, when he found out that I was from the Dayton area, he goes, all the Dayton Gems. And they start telling me about the Dayton Gems hockey team. So a long winded way of saying having those voices, it's a luxury. But there's not many left where you get to, you know, tune in each night. You know, Milwaukee, the Brewers, they were very lucky. Bob Ucher. Yes.

Todd (15:08)

Todd and John Cerny made such an impact. I thought it was great how the play by play voices in yesterday's games around the country were using some of Sterling's words and phrases as if they were calling a Yankee game. I thought that pretty classy that they all agreed to do that.

Dan Patrick (15:21)

I got Doc Emick. These are just words for passing. So somebody compiled all of the words that he uses for passing. The puck spirits, it slides it fiddles it rattles it forks it, shovels it, chips it pokes it jams, it ricochets it, rams it, roughs it, scales it, leads it, rifles it. Directed, hoisted, pitched, popped, splatted, swatted, finesses. There's like 80 of these. Awesome. God, vocabulary. Powerful, powerful. Let me see Dennis in Minnesota. Hi, Dennis. By the way, the trainer from the Kentucky Derby winning horse, Golden Tempo, Cherie Devo will join this moment. I asked if she could bring the horse or she could be by the horse when she did the interview. So maybe she'll be in the stables with.

Todd (16:25)

We're all going to be surprised because I asked and they said they'll definitely see if they can bring the horse over. So we're going to all find.

Dan Patrick (16:30)

Well, she can go to the horse. Horse doesn't have to go to her.

Todd (16:33)

Yeah, she can bring them along. But we did ask to see if the horse could make an appearance.

Dan Patrick (16:38)

Does the horse have prior commitment. It's very possible the horse is going to be on the Today show, but you'll get the trainer. All right. What, what was, what was I going to say here?

Marvin (16:48)

Dennis in Minnesota.

Dan Patrick (16:49)

Oh, Dennis. Oh, I'm sorry. Hey, Dennis.

Caller (16:52)

Oh, that's, that's all right. Thanks for taking my call. I have a suggestion for Marvin. I think he should trademark the phrase loyal to the soil and sell it to the makers of Depends underwear.

Dan Patrick (17:05)

Oh, okay. How about loyal to the soil with True Green? How about that? Loyal to the soil for dude wipes.

Todd (17:16)

Multi purpose.

Marvin (17:17)

We're workshopping. I like you.

Dan Patrick (17:18)

All right. This is how it, this is how it happens. This is the magic right here for our scripted show. All right, More phone calls coming up. Reggie Miller in an hour from now. We'll talk some horse racing right after this.

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Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow youw Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star wars fans, so we're celebrating May 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought provoking Star wars related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of tauntauns and wampas on the ice planet Hoth. Or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith Rule of 2. Listen to Stuff to Blow youw Mind on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

Sam J (19:11)

Do you Remember when Diana Ross double tapped Lil Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people? I know what you're thinking, what the hell does George Bush got to do with little Kim?

Dan Patrick (19:23)

What?

Sam J (19:23)

Well, you can find out on the Look Back at It podcast. I'm Sam J.

Alex English (19:26)

And I'm Alex English.

Sam J (19:28)

Each episode we pick a hair, unpack what went down and try to make sense of how we survived it.

Alex English (19:33)

Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s.

Mark Lamont Hill (19:38)

To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just cause of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all

Dan Patrick (19:44)

day, but yeah, yeah, literally.

Mark Lamont Hill (19:45)

But just so y' all know, I

Alex English (19:46)

mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack, so I'm starting to see there's a through line.

Sam J (19:50)

We also have AIDS on the table

Mark Lamont Hill (19:52)

right now, so thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

Dan Patrick (20:01)

Really? Yeah.

Mark Lamont Hill (20:01)

For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history.

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Listen to look back at it on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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In 2023, former Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years long court battle to prove the truth.

Interviewee Cherie Devoe (20:28)

You doctored this particular test twice, Ms. Owens? Correct. I doctored the test once.

Stephanie Young (20:33)

It took an army of Internet detectives to crack the case.

Interviewee Cherie Devoe (20:36)

I wanted people to be able to

Dan Patrick (20:38)

see what their tax dollars were being used for.

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They would uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing.

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Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at a Maricopa county as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges.

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Dan Patrick (21:19)

More phone calls coming up. Reggie Miller will join us coming up next hour. 877-3DP show operator Tyler sitting by. He'll take your phone calls. One of the great stories over the weekend, one of the great stories this year happening at the Kentucky Derby as Golden Tempo came From last year to first. And the trainer for the horse, Golden Tempo, Cherie Devoe, joins us on the program. Congratulations. Does Golden Tempo know that he did something special?

Interviewee Cherie Devoe (21:50)

I think he does. Getting. He's getting a lot more attention and pats. And then he was auditioning for a scallion career just now when we had him out with a couple local reporters. So I think he's really relishing that he's going to get to have a lot more fun in his next phase of life.

Dan Patrick (22:07)

Give me the race plan that you. You put forth before the race started.

Interviewee Cherie Devoe (22:12)

So Golden Tempo is a deep closer, and we've tried to get him a bit more in contact with the field by putting the blinkers on him. That didn't really seem to help. He just seems to like to let everyone else do the hard work in front of him and do his best running late. So the conversation with Jose was really just, you know, you're in an outside post, just let the field go in front of you, save, you know, get down to the rail, save ground. And then, you know, he was going to be wide at making his run no matter what, just because of how he runs. So it's really important that when you can, you're not losing any, you know, any distance in the race, any ground, as we call it.

Sam J (22:55)

So.

Interviewee Cherie Devoe (22:56)

And the other thing I had mentioned to Jose is just he had. In his previous start in the Louisiana Derby, he dove down to the rail because he thought that's where the horse was going to do his best running. But you really can't do that in the field of the Kentucky Derby. There's too much traffic. Horses are going to close you off. And so I just said, just swing as wide as you can so you get a clear shot at it. And if you could have drawn it up on a playbook, then that would be exactly how he. How Jose enacted it.

Dan Patrick (23:29)

What can you see, though, from your vantage point?

Interviewee Cherie Devoe (23:33)

Not much. All I could see, like, Churchill's a bit tricky to watch races, especially in a big crowd. So you're watching on the tv, and most of the race, he wasn't even on the screen, and neither was his little chicklet. So I was watching a lot of the complexity of the first part of the race, and I was hoping Jose was a man with a plan because he was so far out of it. And they were, to be fair, they were going really fast in front of him. But I picked him up, like, when they came off the stretch and I could see him, and that's when my Wonderfully viral video of me cheering him on started. And when they came by where I was standing, he was just getting to Renegade. And then, you know, then again, they still had quite a lot of the race left to run. So then I had to watch it on the big screen. I couldn't believe it.

Dan Patrick (24:29)

What do you see when you see yourself in that moment?

Interviewee Cherie Devoe (24:34)

It just, it felt like it was all the years of hard work. You know, I put a lot of, I put all my life in this industry up to this point, you know, from when I started 22 years ago. And it just seemed, it felt like it was a culmination of all of that. And I was just so proud of Golden Tempo and just so elated for Jose. And then I think myself was the last thought that was, is in my mind about that moment.

Dan Patrick (25:03)

How do you know you're good at your job?

Interviewee Cherie Devoe (25:07)

That's a good question. I, A lot of people would say results. For me, it's the results. But also this is a sport where you have to put the horse first and their safety first. And I'm going to knock on wood because I hate saying this, but have a low rate of significant incidence of horses getting hurt on the track and that's what I'm most proud of. You know, results come, but putting the horse first and just making sure that they're safe in their races and coming out of it happy and healthy is what's most important.

Dan Patrick (25:46)

Who have you heard from since the win? That would surprise me,

Interviewee Cherie Devoe (25:54)

To be honest. I haven't even gotten through all my messages.

Dan Patrick (25:58)

Okay.

Interviewee Cherie Devoe (26:00)

I mean, it was fun. I went to school in southwest Florida in a small town that has nothing to do with horse racing. And that was a big deal then. It's, it's kind of surreal when I'm watching, you know, well known figures talking about me on, you know, on different podiums and social media.

Dan Patrick (26:24)

When do you decide on the Preakness?

Interviewee Cherie Devoe (26:26)

We're going to give it a couple days. It could be as early as Wednesday or tomorrow or Thursday. Daisy's here representing the FIP stable. So we just had a little chat and, you know, we, we just said we talk a little bit. He's going to go to the track tomorrow and we'll come up, you know, we'll come up with a plan in short order.

Dan Patrick (26:45)

Yeah, because I'm not sure if horse racing has become more specialized where we're gearing for the Derby or we're gearing for the Preakness. We're gearing for the Belmont. Whereas when I was growing up, you were hoping that you could be in all three races and win a Triple Crown. I don't know how important that is. Can you enlighten me on that in today's world of horse racing?

Interviewee Cherie Devoe (27:08)

Well, it's definitely different. We do focus more on the race to race of what we're doing. So the Kentucky Derby was our big goal. I didn't. Not in a bad way because I didn't have faith in the horse. I couldn't believe that we actually won. And I haven't had a chance to sit and catch my breath and really think about the Triple Crown in it. Are. He's a horse that relishes a mile and a quarter. So he ran a mile in 3:16 in his previous start. So, you know, I'm happy to have a horse that can win the Kentucky Derby, win the Belmont when the Travers. But he's so specialized. But. And that's why we're waiting to see what his energy level is like when he gets back to the track. You know, see how he's moving. Because he's going to have to really take a jump forward to be able to take that extra step 16th of a mile away from him.

Dan Patrick (28:02)

So it wouldn't matter if I put in an extra week in between the Derby and the Preakness, right? That, that, that doesn't matter. It's just this horse as good at, at the, these distances or this distance. Okay.

Interviewee Cherie Devoe (28:14)

Exactly. And, and that has nothing to do with the timing. And I admire any horse that tries for the Triple Crown, whether we take that route or not. But it's, it's a horse by horse basis. If you were a different type of horse with a different running style, probably, you know, would play different in our decision making.

Dan Patrick (28:35)

Secretariat's number still stands there. 159. 4. I think Secretariat would have won the Derby by 15 lengths given like, it feels like everybody's evolving. Athletes are evolving. Like we're getting bigger and stronger and better faster. But Secretariat still remains. Why is that?

Interviewee Cherie Devoe (28:57)

Because he was an elite horse. He's one of the greatest horses that ever roamed the earth or, or, you know, in, in racing, in our industry. So, you know, he was elite. And it just shows by him having those big achievements and milestones that just can't even become close to reaching in modern days.

Dan Patrick (29:19)

What souvenirs are you keeping from the race?

Interviewee Cherie Devoe (29:22)

I have my. I, I made a custom pair of shoes. So those are, those are staying. And I have one. One rose from the garland. So that's being preserved and I didn't grab a thing of dirt. I should. Just grabbed a big handful of dirt, but, you know, definitely not in my mind at the time.

Dan Patrick (29:42)

But did you send somebody back to get you some dirt there?

Interviewee Cherie Devoe (29:46)

I have. I do have a stable there, so it's not outside of the realm, but it would have just been nice to have the dirt on that day. No, I'm just kidding. It's. That's probably gross. What do I want? I have enough just from walking back and forth from the track to the barn.

Dan Patrick (29:59)

Did you bet on the race?

Interviewee Cherie Devoe (30:01)

I don't bet. Rarely do I bet, so I think it's enough pressure for the horse. They don't need the weight of my financial burden on them either.

Dan Patrick (30:13)

Did your friends bet?

Interviewee Cherie Devoe (30:15)

My friends did bet. So I had a lot of happy, congratulatory texts to me, but it's probably more for them because they bet, and I think some of them even had the trifecta.

Dan Patrick (30:26)

Well, congratulations. It felt almost like a Disney movie as I'm watching this unfold, and maybe they turn it into a movie, but congratulations and good luck with the decision for the Preakness.

Interviewee Cherie Devoe (30:39)

Thank you so much. I appreciate you having me on.

Dan Patrick (30:41)

That's Cherie Devoe, the trainer for the Kentucky Derby winning Golden Tempo. The fact that you're watching and they have a, you know, huge jumbotron, but you can't see your horse in the picture. And you got to remain as calm as you possibly can because you know what the horse is capable of doing. This is what this horse specializes in, but you're not in the picture. And it is the Derby, and there are really good horses, and you're a long shot, and all of a sudden you start to get a glimpse of your colors or the jockey. Then all of a sudden you're on the outside because when you're listening to the call, you're not hearing Golden Tempo until pretty close to the end. Because I think thought, you know, people thought Renegade was going to win, but that's. You just see this where you go, oh, my God, this horse is going to win. Yeah. Dylan.

Dylan (31:41)

Yeah. For those who haven't seen the. I believe it's a drone shot of the whole race.

Dan Patrick (31:45)

It is.

Dylan (31:45)

It's pretty cool. And also for those who are interested out there, a $1 trifecta for friends at it paid out over 11 grand.

Dan Patrick (31:53)

Okay. That's nice.

Caller (31:54)

Yeah.

Dan Patrick (31:55)

I did not. You did not.

Dylan (31:57)

And a bunch of others.

Dan Patrick (31:58)

Yes. Paul.

Paulie (31:59)

When I saw that drone shot of the comeback, it reminded me of DK Metcalf. Tracking down Buddha Baker, running the length of the field from behind like he's not going to get him. Is he running through all the traffic? Horse cop.

Dan Patrick (32:11)

Didn't Ocho Cinco race a horse? Chris Collinsworth raced a horse. I think the horse. I think it was a horse that had never won that Chris Collinsworth was racing against back when he was with the Bengals. That sound right?

Paulie (32:26)

Yeah. Back in 1983, Chris Collinsworth of the Bengals raced a seven year old horse named Mr. Hurry. That name, I mean, gotta be quick. It was a publicity stunt. Collinsworth lost by nine lengths. Not that bad.

Dan Patrick (32:40)

Yeah. Showed well. I don't know how far they. They didn't run all the way around the track. No, it was like 100 yard dash, wasn't it?

Paulie (32:50)

The horse was unavailable for comment.

Dan Patrick (32:51)

Okay, thank you.

Dylan (32:52)

Yes, Dylan, what's the greatest man versus beast competition? Collins. Worth the horse? I think Michael Phelps raced a shark. Khabib, the MMA fighter. He wrestled a bear.

Dan Patrick (33:04)

That's pretty good. Okay, I don't. I don't know. I mean, sorry, I'm going through my Rolodex here and my mind and I. I don't have any other ones that come to mind. Yeah.

Paulie (33:18)

Paul, Just to be fair to Michael Phelps. We love Michael Phelps, but he didn't get into a pool with a shark, an actual shark. That would be quite dangerous.

Dylan (33:25)

He.

Paulie (33:26)

In 2017, during Shark Week, he raised a computer simulated great white shark. He lost by two seconds.

Dan Patrick (33:32)

Yeah, but it would have been better theater if he's in a. I mean, he can't get the shark in the pool with chlorine and that water.

Paulie (33:39)

Right.

Dan Patrick (33:39)

But salt water. Mike could have gotten into the ocean and had a race.

Paulie (33:44)

Can you imagine tuning into that event?

Dan Patrick (33:46)

That'd be great.

Paulie (33:47)

Think he's actually gonna race a shark? I'm kind of disappointed.

Dan Patrick (33:51)

Wait, he's not racing and actually. Sure. Yes, Todd.

Todd (33:55)

There was a 2013 virtual race simulation between a cheetah and Usain Bolt. I found that very interesting. But not an actual race.

Dan Patrick (34:02)

Who won?

Todd (34:04)

That would be the Cheetah.

Dan Patrick (34:05)

Yeah.

Todd (34:05)

And. And Usain Bolt said he knew that the cheetah would easily win.

Dan Patrick (34:09)

He got accused of cheetah. Thank you, Todd.

Marvin (34:14)

That was nice.

Dan Patrick (34:14)

David in Ohio. Hi, David. What's on your mind?

Caller (34:19)

Yeah, Dan, I bet on emerging market, so that was a great donation to the sportsbooks. Anyway, you were mentioning earlier about getting a gift for your last day, like taking a collection. I think a great one would be maybe Rich Eisen's tears from when you guys dominate him. On that Family Feud there. So thanks.

Dan Patrick (34:38)

Well, thank you, David. I'm going to see Rich Eisen in. In a week or so. Gonna see him. Maybe. Maybe I could get some of those tears. Put that in a little vial. Yes, Dylan.

Dylan (34:49)

And make a nice rear view mirror ornament for your new Porsche.

Dan Patrick (34:53)

Yeah. That you guys are gonna get me.

Dylan (34:55)

Yeah.

Dan Patrick (34:55)

Yeah. Okay. That'd be nice. Zach in Knoxville. Hi, Zach. What's on your mind today?

Caller (35:02)

Adp, thanks for taking my call. Just to defend Austin Rivers and put a bow on that whole Draymond Green comment. The late, great Patrice o' Neill said, just because I'm fat, I still have eyes. And just want to ask you if you think Anthony Edwards or Wimby, if they make a run to the finals or win the finals, would you put them ahead of, say, Joker or Luka as the top player in the league?

Dan Patrick (35:35)

Well, SGA is the top player in the league, but you get people's attention when you win an NBA title. Anthony Edwards has been to the Western Conference finals last two years. I. I'm waiting for him to graduate to the NBA Finals with Wemby getting there. Yeah. Luca. I don't know if Luca will ever win a championship. He hadn't won an MVP yet, but, you know, is he able to come back in in this year's postseason? Yes. Mark.

Marvin (36:11)

When it comes to Anthony Edwards, to me, he feels like he has a Shaq like quality as far as this. He's funny, he's got great sound bites, he's fun loving. But when he's on the court, it is serious business. He's eliminated Joker, Durant and LeBron in the playoffs, and. And he's a guy we don't speak about during the regular season, but when it's playoff time, I never question a lot of these young guys. You can question whether they want to be great or they love the game. With this guy, you've never questioned that because when it's April and May, he's coming ready to play.

Dan Patrick (36:45)

Yeah. And the fact that we didn't even know if he would play in this series or if he did, it would be later in the series. Then he comes back, comes off the bench, gets 18 points. That's what you need. And Minnesota is a good team. They're just not a, you know, a fun team, like where you go, oh, we gotta tune in to watch. Edwards is a great player. There's a lot of great players. I mean, Maxi is a wonderful player. I mean, he didn't play well last night, but the NBA Has a lot of great players or very good players or emerging players. You just need special players. You need tune in factor players. Steph tune in. Even LeBron is tune in depending on your love of offense and passing and big men. Joker is interesting. Wemby is tune in factor. You know, that's what sports want and the NFL doesn't worry about that. But the NBA and Major League Baseball, who are you tune in players. And that's part of the problem. You don't have that many in major League Baseball. You have great players, but it is one sodo tunein quality great player. But how many of those players Paul SK if he's pitching, I'll watch. Otani, if he's pitching or hitting, I'll watch. I mean Mike Trout kind of reminded us Mike Trout Yankee Stadium a couple of weeks ago. But I'm not seeking out the Angels to watch. Yes, Marv.

Marvin (38:21)

So are you just talking about fair weather fans, like the general sports fan? Because if you love the sport, you're gonna watch it no matter who's playing, right?

Dan Patrick (38:29)

For the most part, I don't know. I think we are very territorial in who we watch. Do we watch other teams? You know, is there, is there a tune in player that you're going to go, I, you know, he's not playing against my team, just standalone game. Am I going to watch that? Yes. Mark.

Marvin (38:48)

And take yourself out of the conversation because you watch the most random teams.

Dan Patrick (38:52)

That's true.

Marvin (38:53)

So we're not talking about you, you're talking about just Joe regular sports.

Dan Patrick (38:56)

Yes.

Kid Games (38:57)

Okay.

Dan Patrick (38:57)

Yes. Like Tiger. Even if you didn't like golf, you were fascinated by this. And I think people were tuning into that. But I, I don't know how many. Like you got to develop them, you got to showcase them. Sometimes you act, you have to explain SGA to people because you can watch and you can go, man, that, that guy's good. But he's the mvp. He's going to be an MVP again. He's already won a title. So sometimes you have to explain, Joker, sometimes to people who may not go, I don't get it like. But those who do get it understand the greatness there. Wemby, you don't have to explain. You're like, that is different than anybody. Yeah, Paulie.

Paulie (39:41)

And the opposite is true. If you win, you force us to watch. If you go back to the spurs back in the day, Tony Parker was not an exciting player, but boy, he was a tough point guard and you respected his game. And Ginobili, they were in the final so often you had to watch.

Dan Patrick (39:56)

And I remember members of the media be like, oh, we got to go back to San Antonio. Oh, we got to go back to Utah. Not exactly exciting cities, teams. Oh, another bounce pass from John Stockton.

Marvin (40:13)

Yes, Marvin, you're seeing that now with Oklahoma City Thunder. I know our good friend Vinnie Goodwill. He's always just. I was like, oh, man, how's it going? Oh, probably going to Oklahoma City in June.

Dan Patrick (40:23)

Okay. Yeah, there's certain cities where I loved Salt Lake. I thought it was sneaky fun. In San Antonio, it's. I, I had no reason to complain. I was covering the NBA Finals, like, goal achieved, didn't matter. All right, take a break. And by the way, my wife went to see Double Wears Prada, too, and she came home and the first thing she said to me kind of floored me. I'll have that for you. When we come back,

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Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow youw Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star wars fans, so we're celebrating May 4th with a brand new week of February Fun, thought provoking Star wars related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of tauntauns and wampas on the ice planet Hoth. Or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith. Rule of 2. Listen to Stuff to Blow youw Mind on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Sam J (42:15)

Do you remember when Diana Ross double tapped Lil Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush

Interviewee Cherie Devoe (42:21)

didn't like black people?

Sam J (42:22)

I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Lil Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J.

Alex English (42:30)

And I'm Alex English.

Sam J (42:31)

Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down and try to make sense of how we survived it.

Alex English (42:36)

Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s.

Mark Lamont Hill (42:42)

To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just cause of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all

Dan Patrick (42:47)

day, but yeah, yeah, but just so

Alex English (42:49)

y' all know, I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed cracks, so I'm starting to see that there's a through line.

Sam J (42:54)

We also have AIDS on the table

Mark Lamont Hill (42:56)

right now, so thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes, I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

Alex English (43:04)

Really?

Dan Patrick (43:04)

Yeah.

Mark Lamont Hill (43:05)

For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history.

Alex English (43:08)

Listen to look back at it on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Stephanie Young (43:16)

In 2023, former Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years long court battle to prove the truth.

Interviewee Cherie Devoe (43:31)

You doctored this particular test twice, Ms. Owens? Correct. I doctored the test once.

Stephanie Young (43:36)

It took an army of Internet detectives to crack the case.

Interviewee Cherie Devoe (43:40)

I wanted people to be able to

Dan Patrick (43:41)

see what their tax dollars were being used for.

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Sunlight's the greatest disinfectant.

Stephanie Young (43:46)

They would uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing.

Marvin (43:51)

Greg Gillespie and Michael Maranchini.

Stephanie Young (43:53)

My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trap.

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Laura Scottsdale Police.

Stephanie Young (44:00)

As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences.

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Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at a Maricopa county as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges.

Interviewee Cherie Devoe (44:11)

This isn't over until justice is served in Arizona.

Stephanie Young (44:16)

Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Dan Patrick (44:23)

My wife and some girlfriends went to see Devil Wears Prada too. And she came back and I said, oh, how was the movie? And she goes, you know what stood out the most? And I go, Anne Hathaway. And she goes, no, no, no. I said, meryl Streep. And she goes, yes, her haircut. And I said, oh, you and Meryl Streep have a similar haircut or hairstyle? And I go, okay. And I guess I. I don't know why she thought that, but she kept looking at Meryl Streep and she thought of my hair. I don't know if anybody else is going to see it that way. I took it as a compliment. Do you see It Paulie, that Meryl Streep in my hair.

Paulie (45:13)

Okay. I haven't seen DWP2 as McLovin used to say, but the. The coloring, tone is similar.

Dan Patrick (45:20)

Yeah.

Paulie (45:21)

The flow. Hers is a little longer.

Dan Patrick (45:23)

Yeah. On the side, I'm thinking about maybe doing it a little bit more to accentuate a little more moppy, a little more Streepy. Meryl Streepy.

Marvin (45:36)

Okay.

Paulie (45:36)

I would say no.

Dan Patrick (45:37)

No. Okay.

Paulie (45:38)

Hers is like a flat white. Yours is more of a streaky white and gray.

Dan Patrick (45:42)

Yeah. Yeah.

Paulie (45:44)

I'm gonna say no on that.

Dan Patrick (45:45)

Okay. I mean, I was like. And I said, okay, how was the movie? She said, better than I thought. And she said there weren't great reviews, but she said that the clothes were great. Anne Hathaway was great as well. Emily Blunt is in there too. But you don't have the guy from Entourage, Adrian Grenier. Yeah. Because Anne Hathaway moved on from him. So he. People want to know if he was going to be in the sequel. Yes, Dylan, Stanley Tucci's in it, right? Yeah, he's always good.

Dylan (46:18)

Yeah, he is.

Dan Patrick (46:19)

Stanley Tucci is one of those actors where you just go. He makes it better. He does. He makes it better.

Dylan (46:25)

Makes him eat pasta too.

Dan Patrick (46:27)

Yeah. He's traveling Italy and he'll tell you where he's. And then Eva Longoria is traveling in France, kind of doing the same thing. Yes.

Paulie (46:38)

This new Hollywood thing of delayed sequels is working out well.

Dan Patrick (46:41)

Yeah.

Paulie (46:41)

Are you guys all in the date night dwp2 boat?

Dan Patrick (46:45)

Well, my wife already went to see it, so. No, you don't have to go. No, she already went.

Paulie (46:52)

She's not going to go again with you?

Dan Patrick (46:54)

No. Oh, I'm not going. She can go if she wants to go. If she asks, I would say, nah, I don't think so. Unless we go like at 11 in the morning, like the first showing. And she tends to go 8 o' clock at night. I would go at 8 in the morning. Yes. Morv.

Marvin (47:13)

I will be going to go see the. Dan, Where's Prada, too? I don't care if my wife goes or not, but I'll be gone.

Dylan (47:21)

Yes, Dylan, I'll see it with you, Dan.

Dan Patrick (47:24)

No, no, I don't want to see it.

Marvin (47:25)

We're all going at 11 on Saturday morning.

Dylan (47:27)

Yeah, 11am Triple date.

Marvin (47:29)

No, where it's just us three.

Dan Patrick (47:31)

Yeah.

Dylan (47:32)

A little breakfast man brunch.

Dan Patrick (47:34)

Maybe I'll wait till it comes out streaming.

Sam J (47:38)

What?

Marvin (47:38)

So you can watch for 15 minutes and then.

Dan Patrick (47:39)

Yeah, I know. No, if I go to the theater. I. I do stay. I have to stay for the whole movie. If I stream. I. I don't get through anything in a single sitting. Yes, Mark.

Marvin (47:51)

Anne Hathaway. On the short list of the term America's Sweetheart.

Dan Patrick (47:54)

Yeah, I think she's kind of. She's not Sandra Bullocky, Julia Roberts, I don't think. I don't know if she's warm, friendly, kind of like that. She's extremely talented. But, you know, Sandra Bullock had that kind of fun. You could have a beer with her. You could go to a ball game. I don't know if Anne Hathaway has that.

Todd (48:18)

Why?

Marvin (48:19)

Because she uglied it up in Miss Congeniality?

Dan Patrick (48:21)

Well, she just kind of. I thought she was great in Miss Congeniality.

Marvin (48:28)

Oh, she was, but just like her

Dan Patrick (48:30)

comedy, you know, with Melissa McCarthy. What is that? Heat? Damn. There are some funny lines in Heat. That's. That's like my female version of Step Brothers. Like, they're just nice rate with their lines. Funny, funny, funny, funny. Yes, Todd.

Todd (48:45)

I think Emily Blunt, though, may steal the show with this sequel. As far as Sweethearts and people, that may get our attention, or at least my attention, in seeing that movie.

Dan Patrick (48:55)

Okay, well, she was in the original.

Todd (49:00)

Was she?

Dan Patrick (49:01)

You don't know anything about this. You know nothing about this.

Paulie (49:04)

He had to jump in.

Dan Patrick (49:05)

You had to jump in. You didn't see the original.

Todd (49:09)

I saw parts of it, I guess. I didn't see the part where Emily Blunt was.

Paulie (49:12)

I think.

Todd (49:12)

I think I would have remembered that.

Paulie (49:13)

She's in the whole movie. She's in the entire movie. It's not a cameo by Emily Blunt.

Dylan (49:18)

Mixed her up with Stanley Tucci.

Dan Patrick (49:19)

I think that might be.

Todd (49:19)

It might have been a Stanley Tucci thing.

Dan Patrick (49:22)

Good thing Seaton and McLovin aren't here. They would be really upset with you. Yeah, Paul, quick game.

Paulie (49:27)

How much is the average movie ticket price in 2026? Want to go

Dan Patrick (49:35)

$12?

Paulie (49:36)

$16?

Dan Patrick (49:39)

I can't take a date. Reggie Miller will join us, final hour.

Superhuman Podcast Host (49:44)

Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full, full year.

Superhuman Athlete (50:01)

Within probably 10 days, I'd put on £10. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.

Superhuman Podcast Host (50:07)

Listen to Superhuman on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Kid Games (50:14)

Hey, what's good, y'?

Robert (50:15)

All?

Kid Games (50:15)

You're listening to Learn the hard way with your favorite therapist and host care games. This space is about black men's experiences having honest conversations that it's really not safe to have anywhere, but you're having them with a licensed professional who knows what he's doing. How many men carry a suit of armor? It signals to the world that you not to be played with. And just because you have the capability, that does not mean that you need to listen to learn the hard way on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

Robert (50:45)

Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow youw Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star wars fans, so we're celebrating May 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought provoking Star wars related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of tauntauns and wampas on the ice planet Hoth, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith Rule of 2. Listen to Stuff to Blow youw Mind on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts on the

Sam J (51:16)

look back at it podcast 1979.

Dan Patrick (51:18)

That was a big moment for me.

Mark Lamont Hill (51:19)

84 was big to me.

Sam J (51:20)

I'm Sam J.

Alex English (51:21)

And I'm Alex English.

Sam J (51:23)

Each episode we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it with our friends, fellow comedians and favorite authors like Mark Lamont hill.

Dan Patrick (51:32)

On the 80s, 84 was a while. I mean, it was a wild, wild year.

Mark Lamont Hill (51:36)

I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

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