Hour 2 – Saving Horse Racing’s Triple Crown, Vincent Goodwill

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show: Hour 2 – Saving Horse Racing’s Triple Crown, Vincent Goodwill

Date: May 7, 2026
Host: Dan Patrick
Guest: Vincent Goodwill (ESPN NBA Senior Writer)
Supporting Cast: Fritzi, Dylan, Marv, Paulie

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Episode Overview

This episode blends Dan Patrick’s signature sports wit with thoughtful commentary and lively banter among the Danettes. The core themes are the evolving state of horse racing’s Triple Crown in the wake of the Kentucky Derby winner skipping the Preakness, shifting playoff structures in college football, and in-depth NBA Playoff analysis with Vincent Goodwill. Along the way, the crew dives into sports hypotheticals, career legacies, and even a playful debate about musical icons and sneaker culture.

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Poll Questions & NBA Hypotheticals

[03:19–04:44]

• Poll Recap:

  • Whose NBA career would you rather have?
    • Choices: Carmelo Anthony, Draymond Green, Reggie Miller, Charles Barkley
    • Result: 53% favor Barkley.
  • Who’s more sensitive? Draymond Green, Carmelo Anthony, or Todd?
    • “I'm gonna say Todd... definitely.” (Dan Patrick, 04:03)

• Who do you want taking the clutch two in the NBA playoffs?

  • Candidates: SGA (Shai Gilgeous-Alexander), Jalen Brunson, Luka Doncic, Anthony Edwards.
  • Dan picks SGA but admires Brunson’s clutch factor:
    • “Brunson, he wants it. At the end of the game last night, he waved the ball to himself... I love Brunson's attitude. But SGA to me is, he's a bucket.” (Dan Patrick, 05:33–06:32)

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On Jalen Brunson’s Rise

[05:25–08:27]

• Dan discusses Brunson’s ascension as a true #1 option:
  • “Even when Brunson was going to the Knicks, I kept thinking, can he be the number one guy?... He's the number one guy on that team.” (Dan Patrick, 06:50)
• Praise for Brunson’s game:
  • “When you watch Brunson, it’s like the next level of Chris Paul. He just kind of meanders around, waits for you to commit, then he takes a 12-footer and it goes in.” (Paulie, 08:12)
  • “I just love when everybody in the building knows who’s getting the ball and you still score. That’s… I marvel at that.” (Dan Patrick, 08:27)

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The Triple Crown Problem: Horse Racing’s Dilemma

[09:27–13:02]

• Kentucky Derby winner Golden Tempo will skip the Preakness – again raising questions about the value and viability of the Triple Crown.
• “The Triple Crown is so specialized now... If you’re Golden Tempo and you are the owners of that horse, you win the Derby. But if you finish eighth in the Preakness, then what happens to the brand? ... This is a business decision.” (Dan Patrick, 10:29)
• Suggestions floated:
  • Extra week for recovery or a possible ‘appearance fee’ to entice Derby winners into Preakness.
  • “I don’t know if you can give an appearance fee, but I would explore it.” (Dan Patrick, 12:20)
• Fans versus reality in racing:
  • “This topic feels like non horse racing people talking about horse racing. We're sports fans. We just want to see three races with the same group of horses ... but we don't understand generally the business.” (Paulie, 12:42)
• Trainer Cherie DeVoe’s statement prioritizing horse’s health (paraphrased by Dan at 13:02).

Memorable Joke:

• “The naysayers.” (Todd, 13:37, followed by groans)

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College Football Playoff Expansion: Too Much of a Good Thing?

[13:55–17:46]

• American Football Coaches Association moving to a 24-team playoff.
• “We just got to 12. Can we breathe a little bit here?... I don’t need 24 teams.” (Dan Patrick, 14:14)
• Concerns over four-loss teams in the postseason, dilution of regular season, and the impact on traditional rivalries.
• “Does the regular season… mean anything if that’s the case?” (Dan Patrick, 15:42)
• The shifting value of bowl games and competitive balance:
  • “If you attach these playoff games to bowl games then they mean something.” (Dan Patrick, 16:56)
• Academic implications for student-athletes:
  • “Still waiting for somebody to be academically ineligible.” (Dan Patrick, 18:12)
  • “Can we officially change it today to athlete-student?” (Paulie and Dan, 18:23)

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Interview: Vincent Goodwill (NBA Playoffs, Player Legacies & More)

[23:00–38:50]

On Knicks vs. 76ers, Embiid, and Series Dynamics

• Goodwill: Not surprised Philly competed hard minus Embiid, citing “the perfume of the Boston Celtics” still lingering after grinding through a 7-game first round (24:24).
• “They had nothing left in the tank because of the physicality and the speed of the game.” (Vincent Goodwill, 25:20)
• Expectation: Philly can replicate pace at home but cannot build an offense around an uncertain Embiid.
  • “I would not make Joel Embiid the focal and center point of my offense knowing where he is or isn’t physically.” (Goodwill, 26:50)

On NBA Legacies: Barkley vs. Draymond Green

• Debate: Would you want Barkley’s or Draymond’s career?
  • “Charles Barkley has become such a cartoon character on TV… but that man was never less than a top three player at his position every single damn season … I still say, give me Chuck.” (Goodwill, 33:23)

On NBA Dynasty Criteria

• Dan: “It took a while for people to acknowledge the Spurs dynasty because they weren’t exciting.”
• Goodwill on dynasties: “In this era of parity, the way we evaluate great teams or eras has to change... The last team to repeat was the 17-18 Warriors. It took Kevin Durant for them to go back to back and break the game.” (Goodwill, 29:46)
• On Spurs never repeating: “I do think there’s something about starting the year with a target on your back... That is a valid criticism, but I would still call them a worthy dynasty.” (Goodwill, 31:41)

On Celebrity Row at Knicks Games

• Playful banter:
  • “When you are a regular peasant, they don’t allow you anywhere near those people 30 minutes before the game starts.” (Goodwill, 32:00)
  • “Only someone like you would know that. Dan, go ahead and pull us behind the velvet rope...” (Goodwill, 32:36)

Musical/Lifestyle & Shoe Talk

• Stevie Wonder vs. Prince vs. Michael Jackson career?
  • “Stevie by a hair... Michael and Stevie had to go through all the labor of dancing in heels. Stevie was on the piano or on the guitar or on the drums. That’s less pressure on my knees.” (Goodwill, 37:37)
• “Would you want to be the most famous person on earth?” (Dan, 38:20)
  • “No, I would not. Would you?” (Dan)

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Additional NBA & Sports Discussions

[48:03–49:10]

• Jalen Brunson’s offensive uniqueness:

  • “He’s not really ISO ball, it’s fairly unique. He’s something different.” (Listener Chris, 48:28)
  • “He’s kind of slipped into the Steph Curry stratosphere of being able to get your shot when you don’t think that guy can get a shot off.” (Dan, 48:38)

• Marv on Brunson’s footwork:

  • “I think he's got the best footwork in the NBA. Maybe that's because he had an NBA player as a father.” (Marv, 48:46)

• Who else could’ve been a #1 guy if circumstances were different? Klay Thompson, Scottie Pippen, among others.

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Noteworthy Quotes & Moments

• “I marvel at the guy who comes to the plate, everybody knows that's the guy you got to get out. You somehow hit a home run… when Brady would get the ball with three minutes to go, I'd say they're going to win.” (Dan Patrick, 08:27)
• “If I’m the Preakness, I say, how about an appearance fee? How about a million dollars?” (Dan Patrick, 12:08)
• “We just got to 12 [teams]. Can we at least breathe a little bit here?” (Dan Patrick, 14:13)
• “I have a saying: ‘you’re still wearing the perfume of the Boston Celtics’…” (Vincent Goodwill, 24:24)
• “Charles Barkley...was a terror from, let’s say, 1987 to 1990. That 10-year run was some of the best basketball at the power forward position we've ever, ever seen.” (Goodwill, 34:06)
• “Would you want to be the most famous person on earth?” (Dan Patrick, 38:20)

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• 03:19 – Poll Question Review
• 04:45 – NBA Clutch Player Hypotheticals
• 05:25 – Jalen Brunson’s Emergence
• 09:27 – Horse Racing's Triple Crown Crisis
• 13:55 – College Football Playoff Expansion
• 23:00 – Vincent Goodwill Interview: Knicks-76ers, NBA Legacies, Celebrity Row
• 34:17 – Barkley vs. Draymond Legacy Debate
• 37:28 – Musical careers and fame
• 48:03 – Brunson’s Offensive Game & NBA #1 Options Conversation

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Tone and Style

The episode leans heavily on Dan’s trademark conversational, irreverent, and accessible style, balancing sports insight with humor, pop culture references, and well-paced debates. Interactions with Vincent Goodwill infuse expert analysis with playful moments and broader reflections on basketball and celebrity culture.

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Useful Takeaways for Listeners

• Horse Racing: Business now trumps tradition—fans want compelling Triple Crown drama, but the sport’s incentives point elsewhere. The "appearance fee" idea for Derby winners in future Preaknesses reflects the deepening divide.
• College Football: Expansion to a 24-team playoff risks further diluting what made the season meaningful, and the show’s hosts are skeptical about whether more is better.
• NBA Playoffs: Jalen Brunson is lauded as more special than stats alone show; OKC's dominance and the value of “repeat” dynasties are interrogated.
• Player Legacy Arguments: The Barkley-Draymond comparison provokes rich discussion on rings vs. impact, and how sports media caricatures shouldn’t erase on-court greatness.

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Perfect for sports fans wanting sharp insight with plenty of laughs, or anyone following the drama around NBA playoff legacies, college football chaos, and the future of horse racing’s most famous series.

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You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio Hour 2 on this Thursday. Dan and the Dan X Dan Patrick Show. Come on in. Say hello. If you're watching on Peacock or NBC Sports Network, download the app if you haven't done so. We say good morning to Our radio affiliates, numbering over 400 cities that carry this program gangs all here. Fritzi, Dylan, Marv, Paulie, yours truly. We'll talk some basketball coming up. Vincent Goodwill, one of our favorites from the mothership. He was at the Garden last night with the Knicks. Back and forth with the 76ers, minus Joel Embiid. And now that series goes to Philadelphia. The Knicks will be one and a half point underdogs in that game. The Lakers are 15 and a half point underdogs tonight against the Thunder Cavs, three and a half point underdogs against the Pistons. The spurs blew up the Timberwolves last night, the series shifting to Minnesota. And the spurs are favored by three and a half in Minnesota. Game three. All right, eight, seven seven, three. DP Show. Give us the poll question from hour one and. Or poll questions pl. And what are we going to go with our two?

[Dylan]

Well, our last one, Dan, was. Whose career would you rather have?

[Dan Patrick]

He.

[Marv]

He, He.

[Dylan]

Carmelo Anthony, Draymond Green, Reggie Miller or Charles Barkley? I figured I'd just lump them all in. And 53 are saying Barkley.

[Dan Patrick]

All right.

[Dylan]

You want the other ones?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, sure.

Okay.

[Dylan]

Well, the 76ers chance in the series is better with Joel Embiid, 76% say. And when an NBA team goes down by 50, it's because they gave up, according to 83% of people. All right, you want our two poll?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, sure. Why not?

[Dylan]

Marvin sent me this, actually. Who's more sensitive? Draymond Green, Carmelo Anthony or Todd?

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, wow.

[Dylan]

Shots fired from the front row.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm gonna say Todd.

Really?

[Dylan]

Even after recent events?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah. Now, I haven't been around Draymond and mellow for 20 some years daily like I have. Todd, you don't want to give it

[Todd]

a little more thought right out of the box?

[Dan Patrick]

No, it is you. Definitely, definitely. But you know, sometimes in a good way that you're sensitive. I'll take that. And most of the time.

[Todd]

Most of the time it's very negative and immature.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Paulie]

Okay. I don't have the names for this poll yet, so we have to find four names for this poll you need, and it's any current NBA player. Assume everyone's healthy. You need a two to win a playoff game. Who do you want to have the ball? Here are the candidates I have so far. Sga, Jalen, Brunson. I think Luca, even though he's more three than two and I don't know the fourth yet and I'm open to other people, but I thought SGA makes a lot of sense. He's more two than three, Brunson's more two than three and Luca could do anything.

[Dan Patrick]

I take sga. Yeah, I'm sure there's a. If I say Anthony Edwards and put

[Paulie]

him in there, I'm leaning Brunson because, man, he wants it. At the end of the game last night he waved the ball to himself like he. I don't think he's a better player. I think he might be a touch more clutch.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, we haven't seen too many moments for SGA that he has to be clutch, but he did win a title. He was the mvp. He was the MVP during the regular season. He's the MVP again this year and he can get his shot. He's going to score. It's just a question of how much is he going to score. But hey, I love Brunson's attitude. But SGA to me is he's a bucket. He. He's going to get his shot and you know, he's going to do his damage. You know the two point range and he's going to get to the hoop. And Brunson, you know, his handle's great, he's quick, gets that ball, good release. And to think that the Mavericks had Luca and Brunson. And I think when we watched Dallas, you were kind of marveling at Luca because, you know, he put up 60 points and 20 rebounds in a game and you would forget that Jalen Brunson was right there. And even when Brunson was going to the Knicks, I'm. I kept thinking, can he be the number one guy? And I think because in today's NBA he doesn't really look the part. Now I can look at Steph Curry and say he doesn't look the part, but he's the aberration. He's the anomaly. But then you look at Jalen Brunson and he's the number one guy on that team. He's the option on that team. By the way, no update on OG Anunoby. He got hurt with a brown 3 minutes to go last night. Went to the locker room and no update as of yet. Yes, Marvin?

[Marv]

The funny thing about Brunson is it wasn't like we didn't know where he was he won two national championships at Villanova. But the thing about the NBA is they're looking for the best athletes. And sometimes they're not looking for the best basketball players.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but it's like Donovan Mitchell. You look at Donovan Mitchell and you go, that guy can't be a star in the NBA. I mean, do you remember him at Louisville? Like, you kind of do. I mean, if I'm being honest, I don't remember too much about it, but he's 6:1. But then, you see, those numbers in Utah were crazy. And then he goes to Cleveland, but he's not the prototypical. That's your number one option. Yes, Mark.

[Marv]

And he's a legit shooting guard. That's the thing. He doesn't even play the one. He's a two guard.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Marv]

Doing that against guys that are six five. Same thing with. With Brunson. Brunson's getting a bucket over whoever's guarding him.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, Paulie.

[Paulie]

And when you watch Brunson, it's like. It's like the next level of Chris Paul. He just kind of meanders around. Meanders around, is like a counter puncher. He waits for you to commit. Then he takes a 12 footer and it goes in. Like, that was not that special. It's really, really something.

[Dan Patrick]

I just love when everybody in the building knows who's getting the ball and you still score. That's still. I marvel at that. The guy who comes to the plate, everybody knows that's the guy you got to get out. You somehow hit a home run there, you know, on a. On a drive, where you go. That quarterback. You know, when Brady would get the ball with three minutes to go, I'd say they're going to win the game. Patrick Mahone, like, there's certain guys where you go. That's what separates them. It's like the opposition knows. Damn, we were close. We gave it our best. And, you know, Brunson's getting the ball. He wants the ball. That's another thing. Their guys, and they used to call it alligator arms, where they didn't really want that ball, you know, in the final 30 seconds, or they'd get it and they pass it. But Brunson's wonderful to watch. Yes. Dylan.

[Dylan]

It's even like with golf, like Tiger Woods. It's like there's a whole era where you were like, I have to. Everyone knows who the guy to beat is every single week. And it doesn't even matter. He's still going to win.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, we'll get to phone calls. Coming up to no one's surprise. Well, in this room, Golden Tempo not racing at the Preakness, I'm not surprised at all. When we had Golden Tempo's trainer and she certainly hinted at this, you want to. And it feels like it's so specialized now with the Triple Crown. It's just not, hey, that horse is great. They're going to be in the Derby, Preakness in Belmont. Now it feels like, well, my horse is good at that distance, not good at that distance or that track. Those conditions against that field. How many horses are in the field? You know, so there, there's strategy involved in this. Plus, if you're Golden Tempo and you are the owners of that horse, you win the Derby. But if you finish eighth in the Preakness, then all of a sudden what happens to the brand? And that's what it feels like. This would be. I would be in a protective mode. Plus, I know my horse is not good at the distance with the Preakness, probably a better chance at the Belmont. But then, you know, Belmont's not going to be the same distance this year. Is that right, Dylan?

[Dylan]

Yeah, the Belmont, it's at Saratoga while they're working on the track. So it's. The Belmont is actually the length of Derby this year, one mile and a quarter.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. So you might say, okay, that's, that makes more sense for the horse. But I think it's about brand management, stud fees. That's a Kentucky Derby winner. This is a business decision. I know the competitor in us like, he, you got to go for it. What used to be that way. But these horses, the way they're bred, they're specialized, it's like that's what they do on that kind of track. If that would have been the Preakness distance, this horse, Golden Tempo wouldn't have won because would have run out of, you know, space to be in time to be able. Renegade would have won. Yes, Dylan. Yeah.

[Dylan]

The Preakness is a mile and 3:16. So that extra 16th of the mile is where like the final takeover happens. So I think Golden Tempo comes in second if the Derby's Preakness distance.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Paul.

[Paulie]

Golden Tempo is the third Derby winner in the past five years to not be entered into Preakness, which is terrible for ratings and the month long storyline. In one of the articles, it said Maryland racing officials are considering moving the Preakness back from the third Saturday in May to the fourth to increase the chances that not just the Derby winner, but other horses go in the next race.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, but the trainer for this horse said an extra week is not changing her decision. Their decision to run in the Preakness. Now, I don't know if this happens, but if I'm the Preakness, I say, how about an appearance fee? How about a million dollars? How about NBC carrying the Triple Crown goes, We're going to give you a million dollars. I don't know if that gets their attention, but a million dollars to race in the Preakness. Now I get the buildup. Now I get the audience. You know, the Preakness wins, NBC wins. It's just the horse may not win and then damage the brand, but I don't know if you can give an appearance fee, but I would certainly explore it. Yeah, Paul.

[Paulie]

And this topic feels like non horse racing people talking about horse racing because we're sports fans. We just want to see three races with the same group of horses so you don't have to relearn them for the Preakness. But we don't understand generally the business of horse racing. And the average fan isn't going to dive into it and say, oh, stud fees. I understand it. We just want to watch three races.

[Dan Patrick]

So Cherie Devoe said in a statement that we're incredibly appreciative of the excitement and support surrounding the possibility of a Triple Crown run. Golden gave us the race of a lifetime in the Kentucky Derby. We believe the best decision for him moving forward is to give him a little more time following such a tremendous effort. His health, happiness, and long term future will always remain our top priority. Was the horse unavailable for commentary? Because I'd like to ask about his happiness. I mean, I'm gonna just take her word for it. Yes. Todd, what do you think?

[Todd]

The naysayers.

[Dan Patrick]

All righty.

[Paulie]

He previewed that joke last night.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, he did. And it didn't go over well last night either. And this is where Paulie does his sound effects. Thank you.

[Paulie]

You're welcome.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you. What else do I have for you? The American Football Coaches association board expected to release its decision to support a 24 team college football playoff. All right, now this is just like March Madness. We didn't ask for it. We're gonna get it. I don't want 2014 playoff. We just got to 12. Can we. Can we at least breathe a little bit here? You want to do 14 or 16? Okay, now we're going to 24. Well, how long are we going to be at 24? In last year's final AP Top 25, Iowa was ranked 17th with four losses. USC and Michigan, they were ranked 20th and 21st with four law. So we're going to have teams with four losses in the playoffs, Loses, you know, and I know this is the get off my lawn, but I just know you can't screw up March Madness. Now. They're probably going to try because you know what they did with, hey, it's just the, the first four is the first eight. Now the first 12. Hey, nobody's going to be bothered because then we go into the 60, 14 field. So they have a loophole here that's different than what's going on with college football. And of course the coaches are going to be in favor of this. Well, I made, I made the playoffs. Well, you keep your job there, Jimmy. I don't need 24 teams. Does the regular season it, does it definitely not mean anything if that's the case, because all you got to do is hang in the, you know, top 20. And now it's just seating and who you're going to play. Are you going to host a game? You're going to host two games because, you know, my source says with a lot of these things, they want to make sure that you're getting great crowds here. That's why they give you a home game or two now, because they want to make sure that they get a packed house so it looks great on tv. And with March Madness, that's another thing where you're in a 70,000 seat dome. They want to make sure that they fill everything up. And that's where. How many times will a fan base travel? Hey, you're going to be on the road for two, two games and then the national title game. Well, how many fans are you going to get? That's a big concern. And how much of it. Is this an unfair advantage for a team? If you go to 24 and all of a sudden Notre Dame's hosting two games, you know there's going to be an uproar here. Yes, Dylan.

[Dylan]

I mean, you're going to see like the conference championships are going by the wayside, I think.

[Dan Patrick]

And I'm fine with that.

[Dylan]

Fine with that. It's kind of what happened with the bowl, bowl season. Like the bowl games became just regular games.

[Dan Patrick]

But bowl games. I kept saying if you attach these playoff games to bowl games, then they mean something.

[Dylan]

Before that, though, there was a while where there's just.

[Dan Patrick]

They wouldn't listen to me. Yeah. I said, oh, now you can have importance attached to this game because that game means they're going to face the winner of that bowl game and then that next bowl game benefits. And then you rotate those.

[Paulie]

Yes, Paulie, this proposal by the coaches board, well tighten up the season. It will protect Army Navy. That Army Navy can play in an exclusive window. But they would not have the day to themselves. There will be other games later that day, which will some people be sour about. And they will also try to start the season as early as possible. And you're looking at an Aug. 24 start for the college football.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, okay. We don't need to go to mid January. We don't need a month off before we play the national title game. I just play the playoff games here, you know. You know, make sure that you. You kind of come compartmentalize the schedule instead of it. You know, we'll be in mid August, then we'll go to mid January. You don't need to. Yes.

[Marv]

What about finals in the end of the semester for the students?

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[Dan Patrick]

Still waiting. Still waiting for somebody to be academically ineligible because I know back in my day I flirted with being academically ineligible.

[Paulie]

Yes, Paulie, can we officially change it today to athlete student?

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, I've always said it's an athletic student.

[Paulie]

Yeah, we say, oh, the student athlete. Let's just.

[Dan Patrick]

No, no, no.

[Paulie]

That athlete. Student, hyphenate.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but that goes back to the mid-70s when they were labeled student athletes. They're not. They're athletic students. We'll take a break. We'll talk about the the Knicks 76ers series coming up. More of your phone calls as well. We're back after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show. Weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, is Cavino and Rich from Fox Sports Radio now, in addition to hearing us live weekdays from 5 to 7pm

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The story I've told myself about love or relationships can then shape my behavior and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the Podcast D Deeply well with Debbie Brown and explore the journey of healing, self discovery and returning to yourself. We explore higher consciousness, emotional well being, and the practices that help you find clarity, peace and self mastery in a world that can feel overwhelming. The world is becoming lonelier. We're not becoming more social and connected, we're becoming more individualized, but we actually need people in connection. If you've been searching for a software place to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you. To hear more. Listen to Deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jared Adonno]

Hey, I'm Jared Adonno. You might know me as that loud guy who yells out help. On the Internet.

[Dan Patrick]

Help. Somebody please.

[Jared Adonno]

But there's so much more to me than that. I'm an actor. I'm a comedian, and recently I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, Hope From a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions. Psych. I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff rant and recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to man. If I'm calling you, even if you're on your phone, let it ring twice. One ring is too scary. Cream of chicken soup.

[Dan Patrick]

Egg cream.

[Jared Adonno]

Cream of chicken soup. This is help from a hypocrite. The worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hypocrite as part of the Mike Cultura Podcast Network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Edwin Castro]

Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro 1021 and I'm Conkey, his best friend manager and we've got a new show called the 1021 podcast. I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers. We also love sports and with the World cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA. Listen to the 1021 podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

Basketball Coming up tonight, The Lakers are 15 and a half point underdogs. Cavaliers are three and a half point underdogs. And then looking ahead to Friday night, the Knicks are underdogs in Philadelphia by one and a half. The spurs are favored by three and a half In Minnesota, one of our favorites now, big time Vincent Goodwill. He's with the mothership and he still stays in touch though. I give him credit. But not as quickly. Doesn't get back to Todd as quickly as he used to. Now he's big time. Now he's on get up first take. That must be nice. Thanks for carving out a couple of minutes for us, Vincent.

Thank you for giving me the call. I thought you had forgotten my number. I don't get a fancy middle name. Thank you to Marvin for giving me some nice Michael Jackson there some this place hotel. I love it.

Did you see the documentary on Michael Jackson?

I have not seen the movie on Michael Jackson yet. I'm not sure if you know playoff season, no days off, no mornings off. But it is on the list.

So it's a biopic, it's not a documentary.

Yes, it's a biopic. Okay, first half of a biopic.

All right, explain to me what happened last night. Back and forth, 25, 26 different lead changes. But let's start with Philadelphia. How surprised were you going toe to toe without Joel Embiid?

I wasn't surprised at all, to be perfectly honest. I felt like when you get out of a seven game series where you come out of a 3:1 deficit, I have a saying you're still wearing the perfume of the Boston Celtics. Like you're nowhere near the emotional or physical capacity to deal with the next series in 48 hours. So the blood in game one wasn't very surprising to me. Game two, no, Joel Embiid meant that Dan. They could not afford to play slow game. And then we kind of forgot that Paul George, for all the things that he's not, he's still an incredibly skilled player who can carry you for stretches. I'm Actually more or less surprised that Philadelphia did not win the game last night because of how they came out. They just ran out of gas in the last six, six, five or six minutes. They had nothing left in the tank because of the physicality and the speed of the game. And now you wonder if this is a formula that they can replicate for game three, just being back home.

Yeah, I think they had 12 points in the fourth quarter. But you know that it takes so much energy. And you're right about the quick turnaround, losing in Game one. I thought Philly was going to win last night. But moving forward with Embiid, can Nick Nurse come up with a game plan where you're not sure dayto day or game to game, what exactly you have

with Embiid, that's impossible because, Dan, you know it from being around these players. The series don't get easier as they go along. They don't get less physical, they get more physical. And if there is a vulnerable part of your body, let's say you got a bad hand, you know what they're going to do to your hand. They're going to whack your hand every chance they can because it's vulnerable. And they're going to see how long you can go before you say uncle. And I think with Embiid, him getting nailed on that screen by Mikhail Bridges, who's not the most, you know, he's not the physically toughest dude in the world and he nailed him beat. So if you're Nick Nurse and he did some good things last night, I'm going to say that Dan, he did some good things even in the fourth quarter when they were trying to get the ball out of Jalen Brunson's hands. And you've got to see, wait, do the Knicks have another guy that can create a shot late in the clock? I think if they have fresher legs, let's say they have a lead in the last four or five minutes, Embiid or no Embiid, I feel like defensively they found some things that they can counter to. And then you worry about Embiid later, like just. I wouldn't say this. I would not make Joel Embiid the focal and center point of my offense. Knowing where he is or isn't physically, I'm going up and down the floor and I'm telling Joel, come and catch up to us when you catch up to us.

Any update on Og Anunoby's injury, Dan?

It's the New York Knicks. If the update is due at 5 o' clock they will tell us. At 5:01 they, they said they did the we don't know what you're talking about last night thing to us when we were saying hey, did you know that og, you know, grabbed his leg and was limping off and they were like, well, we don't know about testing. We don't know anything. So they're not going to do anything or tell us anything until they absolutely have to. There's no practice today. They're going to shoot around tomorrow, but they're not going to tell us anything until the league mandates that they do. At 5pm this afternoon, surprised that the

Lakers are 15 and a half point underdogs.

Have you seen the Oklahoma City Thunder? Daniel I'm very curious what people believe about this Thunder team. Like once the shine of the possible 770 win thing blew off of them, we stopped paying attention to them. And when we stopped paying attention to them, you looked at the roster. You're like wait, everybody can defend and everybody can defend a level up or a level down. You can use Chet Holmgren at the rim, you can use Chet Holmgren in space. You can use the A.J. mitchells of the world at the rim or in space. Like nobody's uncomfortable at any point in the floor. And the Lakers have an older LeBron James who can only give it to you in spurts. Like in game one. He had a great game, but he gave it to you in spurts. It wasn't like he was flying up and down the floor. This wasn't game one of the 2018 NBA Finals where he, he emptied the tank and almost took out one of the greatest teams we've ever. He gave you 25 efficient YMCA points. Oh man, I'm going to get on the break because I'm at half court, you know, like that type of thing. There's only so much that he can do and Luka's not coming back. And Austin Reaves, he didn't give you anything because he's still recovering from injury. The Lakers don't have many options and

it's weird how we will designate one of the great teams of all time. You know, if you three peat then you're in the conversation. But if you win two titles even then we can begrudgingly say, well, you know, they were really a great team. It took a while for people to acknowledge the spurs dynasty because you know, they weren't exciting. They were just a wonderfully coached, skilled team. And it feels like okc. You have to go out of your way to watch them or want to watch them now it's the postseason you're kind of forced to like. I'm more fascinated watching Stephen or Victor or Joker than I am SGA and okc. But here they are again on the precipice of going back to back. At what point, let's say that happens? At what point do they need or what do they need to accomplish where we go? You know what, you can put them in there with whatever team in the last 15 years.

It's funny, Dan, because in this era of parody, the way that we evaluate great teams or great eras has to change because back to backs no longer exist in the way that we think of them, right? The last team to go back to back was the 1718 Golden State Warriors. And it took for them to get Kevin Durant for them to go back to back and break the game. And even by then, Dan, remember they went to game seven in the Western Conference finals against the Houston Rockets of James Harden and Chris Paul and it took 27 straight mysteries for them to get to the finals. And that was one of the single season greatest teams we've ever seen. And by the next year someone in the league had the nerve to catch up. I think with Oklahoma City, I think there is something to that. We don't watch them enough. We don't pay attention. And the conversation isn't fawning. It's about Lou Dort sticking his leg out and doing the WWE stuff, which I personally don't like, right? I do not like it. Giving up the appearance that a player looks like he is trying to hurt people. Right? Then there is the Shay Gilgis Alexander conversation where if you put your hand anywhere near his zip code he's flailing all over the place like it's not a pretty conversation to have. But you cannot deny their overall greatness, starting with Sam Presti and even Shea as the efficient ballplayer that he is. If and when they win this year and we're going to say, man, this is the first team to repeat since those Golden State teams, which will be the third team to repeat since the Miami Heat of LeBron and Dwyane Wade, then we'll beat be able to say it. But I will say this about those spurs teams, Dan. They never went back to back. And I do think there's something about starting the year with the with the target on your back going through the 82 game gauntlet and not being able to avoid playing 82 playoff games and then playing another season of playoff basketball and coming back out on top. I. I will say that is a valid criticism that they didn't go back to back, but I would still call them a worthy dynasty.

We're talking to a big time. Vincent Goodwill, ESPN NBA senior writer. He was there at Game 3 at the Garden last night. Do you walk along celebrity row just to get a closer look at the celebrities?

Dan. See, this is how disconnected Dan is from us common folks, because Dan is a member of celebrity row. When you are a regular peasant, they don't allow you anywhere near those people 30 minutes before the game starts. Like Jay Z was at the game last night. Do you think they let us, us cretins in the media anywhere near? Absolutely not.

Well, they do have this holding area. Holding. It's a green room that's right off the court. And then all of a sudden they go, okay, let's go. And then everybody goes out to their seats, and then the game begins. So you only.

Only someone like you would know that. Dan, go ahead and pull us behind the velvet rope and tell us more about this celebrity life.

Dan, did you see Draymond and Charles Barkley last night?

I did, and I like Draymond a lot. I will say this. Charles Barkley has become such a cartoon character on television. We can't be disrespecting the player that Charles Barkley was. Charles Barkley was a phenomenal player at every single level of his career. You can call him fat and out of shape. You can say all the things. He never won a championship. But that man was never less than a top three player at his position. Every single damn season that he played where he was himself. Not one single season.

Even in Houston, if you could have Draymond Green's career or Charles Barkley's career,

that are the suspensions and sleeper holds included.

Every. Every. And the rings.

I still say, give me Chuck. Chuck had fun. Yeah, but Chuck did the Right guard commercials. Remember those right Guard commercials that Chuck used to do that Marvin Hagler did? And Chuck was doing the Gatorade. If I could see that he is me. And I just want to be like Chuck. He went to Barcelona and the Olympics and all that stuff. Look, man, Charles Barkley was a terror from, let's say, 1987 to 1990. That 10 year run was some of the best basketball at the power four position that we've ever, ever seen. And Draymond Green is a great champion. I think I'm gonna take the.

You'll take Chuck?

I'll take Chuck.

I happen to ask Reggie Miller the question of whose career? Draymond or Carmelo Anthony? And yeah, Carmelo wasn't happy with me that I made that comparison, apparently. He said, keep my name out of your mouth, Dan Patrick.

What, did he send that message to you or did it on social media?

Social media.

Okay, so we're not going to talk about Carmelo Anthony now.

Oh, I don't care. I like Mellow. I, it was just a question to Reggie. And you know what? Reggie said he'd take Draymond Green's career.

I could see. I mean, well, Reggie Miller had Carmelo Anthony's career. It was Reggie Miller. Like, I get it. And when you get that close to like Reggie was to championships and you don't win because there's the supernova in front of you, there's the Michael Jordan of the time in front of you. He, he knows what it's like to be that. Let me go and be something else. I get it.

Melo wasn't happy that I, I somehow put his name out there in the

ether and Mellow's a part of the media now.

I know. That's why I thought I have a sense of humor here. You know, there are days when we have to come up with content here. You know, I, I, I, I, I have to do three hours here. Sometimes you have to ask, you know, stupid comic questions here. That's all.

Dan, I get it. Would you like, it's, it's the age old question of would you rather be Robert Ory or would you rather be the man? And Robert or. He said, I'd rather be the man than be myself. I know what it's like to be me. I want to be somebody else.

Just remember us. So, you know, you got big time. What shoes are you wearing? Air Jordans.

Not. No, not right now. I am from Detroit. It is playoff time, so we, we. The Jordan rules are in place during playoff time. That's, that's what this is, Dan, what

are, what's the hot shoe right now?

I don't know what the hell the hot shoe is, Dan. I'm, I've aged out of this. I only buy stuff that I like. I don't know what these kids are wearing now. Sometimes Nike will send me a gift package and, you know, all of that stuff, and I'll work out in them. But, Dan, I'm, you know, I'm washed, as the kids would say.

Well, what, What's Timothee Chalamet wearing courtside?

Okay. I'm gonna be honest with you, Dan. I had no idea who the Hell, Timothee Chalamet was until I moved to New York and saw him on the jumbotron every night.

Man, you are. Or older than I thought.

We did this a couple years ago where we guessed Vinnie's age and then we found out that black don't crack. But that's also. That's also where. Dan, I'm wearing a Stevie Wonder hoodie. My Spotify age is like 65. That makes me older than you. You know what I mean? Come on now.

I'm turning 70 next Friday, man.

White don't crack.

So Michael Jackson or Stevie Wonder's career?

Oh, of course. That's. That's Stevie. Stevie Wonder's career.

Prince won. Prince or Stevie Wonder?

Stevie by. By a hair. Just cause it's lower maintenance. Michael and Stevie had to go through all the labor of dancing in heels. Stevie was on the piano or on the. On the guitar or on the drums. That's less pressure on my knees, Dan.

All right. Very strong.

Well, Dan, whose classic era would you rather have? Stevie in the 70s, Prince in the 80s, or Michael in the 80s?

Mike was maybe the most famous person in the world during his run. I mean, Stevie was incredible and. And Prince had his run too, but nobody compared to Michael.

Would you want to be the most famous person on earth?

No, I would not. Would you. Would you rather be Michael Jackson or have Michael Jordan's career?

Oh, I've got. Oh, Michael Jordan's career. Absolutely. Because Michael Jordan's in NASCAR now where he can just be himself. Right? And if nothing else, when Michael Jordan's performing, fans ain't fainting and trying to come on the stage and kiss me or break my neck. The only person I got to worry about breaking my neck is Bill Lambert. I can avoid that.

Thank you, Vincent. Good to talk to you as always.

Appreciate you, Dan.

That's Vincent Goodwill, ESPN NBA senior writer. He had some great appearances with us. Did we start talking to him in Covid? Was that. Does that sound about right?

[Paulie]

Yeah, about three years ago.

[Dan Patrick]

At least four years ago. Yeah. He always had great content. All right, take a break. Got an update on Aaron Rodgers for you. Have that for you next. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

[Debbie Brown]

The story I've told myself about love or relationships can then shape my behavior. And that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection this mental health awareness month. Tune into the podcast deeply. Well, with Debbie Brown and explore the journey of healing, self discovery and returning to yourself. We explore higher consciousness, emotional well being and the practical practices that help you find clarity, peace and self mastery in a world that can feel overwhelming. The world is becoming lonelier, we're not becoming more social and connected, we're becoming more individualized, but we actually need people in connection. If you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you. To hear more. Listen to Deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Edwin Castro]

Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro 1021 and I'm Conky, his best friend and business manager. And we've got a new show called the 1021 podcast. I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers. We also love sports and with the World cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA. Listen to the 1021 podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Carlos King]

If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know there's a lot to break down.

[Dan Patrick]

Portia accusing Kelly of sleeping with a married man, they holding K Michelle back from fighting. Drew Pinky has financial issues. I like the bougie style of Housewives show. I think it looks like it's gonna be interesting.

[Carlos King]

On the podcast. Reality with the King I, Carlos King recap the biggest moments from your favorite reality shows, including the Real Housewives franchise, the drama, the alliances, and the tea everybody's talking about. As an executive producer in reality television, I'm not just watching it. I understand understand the game. As somebody who creates shows, I'll even say this at the end of the day when people are at home, they want entertainment to hear this and more. Listen to Reality with the king on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Jared Adonno]

Hey, I'm Gerard Adono. You might know me as that loud guy who yells out help on the Internet.

[Dan Patrick]

Help somebody please.

[Jared Adonno]

But there's so much more to me than that. I'm an actor, I'm a comedian, and recently I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, Hope From a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions.

[Dan Patrick]

Psych.

[Jared Adonno]

I'M a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff rant and recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to man. If I'm calling you, even if you're on your phone, let it ring twice. One ring is too scary. Cream of chicken soup.

[Dan Patrick]

Hey, cream.

[Jared Adonno]

Cream of chicken soup. This is help from a hypocrite. The worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to help from hypocrite as part of the Mike Kultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

Checking with Dylan for meat Friday tomorrow. And I forgot Fritzi has his masters menu that we're gonna have. He won our masters challenge. And you picked out your favorites for tomorrow?

[Todd]

I did. I'm excited about it. I hope it'll be all of your favorites or something you guys will look forward to consuming.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Anything that you might want to give us a heads up on Dylan?

[Todd]

Is there anyone safe? So I don't know if they want to hide the other ones.

[Dylan]

It's very Todd, the whole menu.

[Dan Patrick]

Pigs in a blanket.

[Dylan]

Actually, no.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, okay.

[Todd]

Since we did that not too long ago, we thought to keep that one

[Dan Patrick]

out and, you know, for a later date or. Mountain Dew. We drinking Mountain Dew.

[Dylan]

I was gonna surprise Todd with some Mountain Dew. Dan, thank you.

[Dan Patrick]

How about a chicken parm? You taste so good.

[Todd]

We have meatball parm, sliders, possibly. As one of a number of things that are gonna be on this menu.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, the Rec Tech grill will be fired up so we you can go to rectech.com search the Dan Patrick show official rules for you to enter and win a Rec Tech Grill a week from tomorrow. All right, Paulie said that we might have some updated information on Aaron Rodgers. This from Ian Rapaport, and he says Aaron Rodgers, who is expected to visit the Steelers Friday and this weekend, will likely play for them in 2026. Sources say a deal is not done. There is always caution until things are signed. But Rogers plan is to play for Pittsburgh and these are the steps towards that end. That's according to Ian Rapaport. All right, not exactly breaking news, but updating the news on Aaron Rodgers.

[Paulie]

Yes, Paulie, I have the option off last year's Aaron Rodgers contract that he is expected to make if he plays for them. 15 million this year.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Paulie]

Could he be trying to get one more payday? You know, bump it up to 22 or something like that? Because it's last call.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Deal.

[Dylan]

This feels like the opposite of the golden tempo thing. Whereas, like, we're waiting till Wednesday to hear that he is not running. It's like we've waited months to hear what everyone thought was going to happen, which is Aaron Rodgers is just playing.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. I think, look, they put themselves in this position again, you know, at some point, you just can't go year to year at that position. And at that age, I saw where Russell Wilson Jr. III is deciding between backing up Gino with the jets or working in TV with cbs, I guess their studio show. I don't know if it's. He would be out at games. Like, Mike Tomlin wants to be on the road with NBC. From what I was told, he said, I don't want to be in the studio. I want that atmosphere of a stadium, and they're going to be going to every game. So the studio show is on the road. Mike Tomlin, he wants the energy of being in a stadium. Yes, Todd, could there be some.

[Todd]

The NFL today. Let's ride promos going on behind closed doors as we speak.

[Dan Patrick]

Probably not, Todd, but thank you. Yes, Paul, it does seem like a

[Paulie]

guy like Russ, you could get a paycheck to do one more year as a backup. But these media jobs, they may not be open for him going forward. He's not the Russell Wilson of eight years ago. That kind of juice, I don't think.

[Dan Patrick]

Let me see. Omar in San Antonio. Hi, Omar. What's on your mind?

[P]

How you doing, dan? Driver's license 510 at 193lbs. First time caller, long time listener. First, I wanted to say that I've listened to your show and watched a lot of sports shows over the years, and I love. What I love about your show is that I can listen to your show with my kids and laugh and have a good car ride to school. Your show set a very high bar. With that being said, would you rather have the legendary career with multiple sports Emmys like Bob Costas or be so respected in broadcasting that there's an annual Dan Patrick award named after you for the best sportscaster of the year? Thank you, guys.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, I'd rather have the award named after me now. Bob. There's nobody who can touch Bob Costas. But. But they're different careers. I mean, Bob even said to me many, many years ago, I can't be like you because he's Bob Costas. Like, I can be goofy. We can have fun. I can get a pie to the face. I mean, Bob wakes up, he's Bob Costas, I'm just, I'm Dan or Bob. Dan Patrick show. And, and I understood what he was saying because when he's doing things, it's a big event. You know, I could do Sports center and have fun or this show and have fun. Bob brings a certain gravitas to everything that he does. And I wouldn't change my career. I wouldn't trade my career. No. I don't know. Let me see Chris in Syracuse. Hi, Chris. What's on your mind?

[P]

Hey, thanks, Danny. I want to comment on Jalen Brunson. And you were just talking, man. Who would ever thought Russell Wilson could be backing up Geno Smith? And yeah, Jalen Brunson always probing on offense, whether he starts off from the three point range, that mid range, or that little teardrop in the restricted area. Yeah. And he's not, it's not really ISO ball. It's, it's, it's fairly unique. He's, he's something different.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Chris. I'm fascinated watching him. I really am. You know, he's kind of, I don't know, slipped into the Steph Curry stratosphere of being able to get your shot when you don't think that that guy can get a shot off. Yes, Marv.

[Marv]

And I think he's got the best footwork in the NBA. The way his pivot foot just stays there. Most guys are traveling these days. He's got. But maybe that's because he had an NBA player as a father.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Marv]

And he's got great footwork. He can get to his spot. I mean, he's unbelievable. I never thought that Jalen Brunson would be this.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Marv]

Even when he went to the Knicks, I was like, man, he played good. And you know, he might be a 17, 18, you know, knighted guy.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

Dylan, how short or long do you think the list is of guys who maybe were like legit number ones but never got the chance to do so? Like obviously Jalen Brunson, after leaving the Mavs, he stepped in the number one role, no problem. But like some guys probably don't even get that opportunity. Like.

[Dan Patrick]

No, cuz Klay Thompson could have been a number one option. You know, if he was in Charlotte during his prime, you know, he'd be a 27, 28 point scorer, I would imagine. Scotty Pippen. Scotty Pippen. I mean, Paulie and I were talking about this. When you talk about underrated players, I, I still think Scotty is underrated because I thought he was a better defender than just about anybody, including Michael, he wasn't a great scorer, he wasn't a great shooter, but he could score. And he sort of allowed Michael to roam and play the passing lanes to get steals. I mean, Scotty, Scotty could have been a number one. Well, when Mike went to baseball, Scotty nearly took him to the NBA finals. Final hour right after this.

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[Tom Boger]

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[Tom Boger]

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[Dr. Dom]

Therapy is fantastic, but once again, it does not have a monopoly on healing. That's why I create the resources and that's why I create the community because I really just want you to have

[Terri Lomax]

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[Dr. Dom]

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[Terri Lomax]

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[Carlos King]

If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know there's a lot to break down.

[Dan Patrick]

Portia accusing Kelly of sleeping with a married man. They holding K. Michelle back from fighting. Drew Pinky has financial issues on the

[Carlos King]

podcast Reality with the King I, Carlos King, recap the biggest moments from your favorite reality shows, including the Real Housewives franchise, the drama, the alliances and the tea everybody's talking about. To hear this and more, listen to Reality with the king on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

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