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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio Hour 2 on this Monday. Best and worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked, you didn't like. Operator Tyler sitting by. Take your phone calls. Stat of the day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards and NFTs of the Dan Patrick Show. Check in with the Thunder coming up. After an impressive win, they even the series. You know the thing with Indiana, if you're a basketball fan and you followed them during the postseason, you realize that, okay, they're down 15, they can come back. So you're watching it differently than you would maybe other NBA teams, NBA games, they've proven that, all right, we're down 15, we can come back. Therefore, I stayed with the game a lot longer than I would normally have stayed. But OKC was different last night because it started with sga. He was different. He would get in the lane, he would draw two or three defenders and then he would kick it out. And they were making their threes. They're not a three point shooting team, but they became one last night or showed they're capable. They played great defense. Tyrese Halliburton, I want to see a little more aggression there, but I'm going to give OKC credit for that. They played great defense once again. So the Thunder and the Pacers, now they head to Indiana. That'll be coming up. Game three on Wednesday night. All right, we'll get to phone calls as we always do every Monday. Best and worst of the weekend. And if you were going to say Scotty Scheffler versus the field right now, the DraftKings odds Scotty is a overwhelming favorite to win at Oakmont, + 275. Next on the list is Rory at + 850. Then it's Bryson DeChambeau, John Rom and a even longer shot with Xander Shoffley. It feels like it's Scotty Scheffler's to lose. Is Scotty worthy now? Is he Tiger worthy to be Scotty versus the field? I think he only has two majors. It feels like he's got five, but he's got two majors and always in contention the other tournaments that he's winning, but it feels like he's, he's at least in the area code of Tiger woods when it comes to how great he is. And I always look at your competitors now. The live guys can still play in these majors. You know, John Rom is able to play in this. Bryson DeChambeau can play. You know, being a former champ, you're allowed in at the Masters, and, and so you're still competing against great players. The thing is, is those players playing on the live tour who were in Virginia where Joaquin Neiman wins over the weekend, no one, nobody cares. And it's not really a true test of what you saw at the RBC where, you know, their sudden death, you know, go to extra holes there, that pressure and, oh, Paulie just said three majors there for Scotty. Okay. But you know, these guys on the live tour, you're not in that pressure cooker environment. You're not in that I gotta make the cut. You know, everybody gets paid. Everybody's having a nice time. Yeah, you want to win. But, you know, I don't know if people are losing their jobs because their team didn't or you didn't win the team event at the, the live tour, but getting in that mode of when you're, when you're playing on the PGA Tour, it's just different. Feels different. It's treated differently. It's not a casual thing. It's serious. And I think trying to get ready to gear up to play in a major, that's the hard part. You know, John Rom was maybe the best player in the world, and then he went to live, and he's not the best player, but he's still a great player. And, you know, even when you look at Tiger, how many times did he face off, go toe to toe with a great player to win the major? Not often. I mean, Rocco Mediate is a wonderful, wonderful guy and a fun guy to be around. Who is it? May. But that was at Valhalla, I think. Who was a great amateur player. Like, his last name is. Is May. You know, you don't run down the list of who, who did he go against? And that's not, you know, not Tiger's fault that Ernie Else wasn't there or Phil wasn't There on a consistent basis. You know, you look at Nicholas. Nicholas. It felt like, okay, you got Trevino and Gary Player, and you got Tom Watson. You know, can run down the list of guys who are hall of Famers who were usually there with Jack. So that's what I want to see. I want to see guys going toe to toe with Scotty Scheffler, and, you know, hopefully that's Rory or Bryson dechambell. I mean, that's what you want. We. You know, that. That's where it's memorable, where you have the showdown between those two. What. What was May's. But do we know what his first name was?
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Paul Pabst
Bob.
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Dan Patrick
May. Bob May. I was gonna say Brad May, like Matt Gogle. Wasn't he a guy who competed against Tiger at. At pebble in the US Open? Matt Gogol might have finished second at 15 shots back, but, I mean, Tiger kind of blew people out of the water there. Yeah, Paulie, I went back and looked.
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Paul Pabst
At the odds while you're talking about Tiger or Scotty Scheffler being more of a favorite. Twenty years ago, Tiger woods was 5 to 1 to win the U.S. open. The guys that were close to him were Phil Mickelson, Ernie Ells, Vijay Singh, and then it dropped off dramatically. However, Scotty Scheffler is more of a favorite to win this U.S. open than Tiger woods was to win the U.S. open in 2005.
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Dan Patrick
For a comp. Here's something I didn't realize. I actually lost a bet. Guy goes, hey, you know when Tiger won the Masters? 1997. I go, yeah, yeah, I was. There goes. Do you know that Jack Nicklaus finished higher than Tiger? The next major or the next Masters, I go, wait, hold on here. Hold on. He said, check it. That Jack, I think, finished sixth at the Masters in 1998. Does that sound right? Because I would have thought Jack. Jack didn't finish higher. Yes, Paulie, that is correct.
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Paul Pabst
Jack Nicklaus was five under, tied for sixth with David Toms, and Tiger was tied for eighth at three under.
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Dan Patrick
Isn't that amazing?
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Paul Pabst
Yes.
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Dan Patrick
I mean, Jack in 86, when he was, what, 46 when he won?
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Paul Pabst
Yeah, Paulie, Fred, Marco, Mirror won that Masters. I was. And Freddie Couples was in there. Paul Azinger, some classics.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. But Jack Nicklaus finishing higher than Tiger at Augusta. All right, so we have Oakmont, beautiful, challenging golf course. And I made the mistake of if you had the ball above the hole, it can roll off the green if you put it. But it. It's spectacular. They took down a lot of Trees there a long time ago, but beautiful clubhouse. The 18th is awesome. And, you know, hopefully, weather wise, it'll be fun there with the US Open. Alrighty, poll question for hour two is going to be what seat, no counter, we got up there right now. Will the NCAA settlement shift college sports either a game changer or not really? Right now, 54 of the audience have it as a Not really. Not that significant. Okay. I think that's pretty interesting. All right. We're also putting up their most strenuous sport between the three currently happening. Basketball, hockey, tennis. I anticipate hockey to run away with this. I anticipate basketball to be second and tennis will be third. And I don't know if it should be that order. Okay, well, recency bias. When you're out there for five and a half hours, mentally and physically, I still marvel at what hockey players do. Unbelievable. I mean, I just see there. There's certain sports when you watch and you go, why don't I watch more of this? Oh, definitely. Like yesterday, when you're watching tennis, do you go, God, I should watch more of this? Well, not every match is like that, but hockey, playoff hockey is like that. And you'll watch hockey and you go, I should watch more of this. I can watch playoff hockey. Doesn't matter who's playing. Hockey is one of the best of. Of all the sports, it seems like the best combination of skill and, like, grit or toughness. And you're doing it on skates, and you're doing it on ice. And they got a stick, and you got a stick, and that puck is going 100 miles an hour. What could go wrong?
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Paul Pabst
Yeah, Paul, it's like, as they were inventing it, they kept saying, let's make it tougher. All right, so we're gonna be just running around. No, no, we're gonna go on ice.
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Dan Patrick
Ice.
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Paul Pabst
And you're gonna use a stick and. And then the blades. And then one guy's gonna have no face mask. The goalie. No, no face mask. You can't have it. We'll wait a couple decades, then we'll get a face mask for the goal.
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Dan Patrick
Do we get to wear helmets? No, you don't have to. Now we're gonna make it. Ruin the game. Yeah. Great. You got to wear a helmet. Okay. You ever see, like, sometimes a slow motion, like a dude will get still even with the face mask and the helmet? Everything but the stick gets up into that shield. Yeah. Like, gosh, yeah. What happens with hockey players? The dexterity. It's crazy. Toughness. Yeah. Doing it on skates. Yes. Yes, Marvin.
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Paul Pabst
And you're the designated fighter now. Your entire life up until then, you scored 100 goals a game. Like, you know what? You're the best fighter.
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Dan Patrick
That's all you do.
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Paul Pabst
You're going to protect Sidney Crosby or Wayne Gretzky. You're going to fight.
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Dan Patrick
But I like that they don't fight in the postseason, for the most part. Like, they'll. They'll kind of jostle around a little bit there and, you know, say something and push and shove and all that, but, you know, I want to see the great. That. That was the problem I always had when I was watching hockey. Now, this is when the Devils were really good, and, you know, they. They would score two goals, and then they would go into their zone defense, and all of a sudden this shell, and then nobody was scoring. And I remember watching one time, and Barry Melrose, he was telling me, I said, barry, what should I be watching for? He said, you see that guy right there? I said, yeah. He goes, best player in hockey. It was Peter Forsberg. And I go, all right. So I watched. And I go, I didn't see anything. He. He's looking at things that I'm not. I mean, I want to see, did you score? That's all. Did you assist or anything? And. But you want. When people tune in, you want them to be able to see that guy is great. Because I. There's times when I watch soccer where I'll go, that guy didn't do anything. But he's the best. One of the best players. You know, I'll watch Messi sometimes. And you'll go, all right, let me see it. Why is he walking all the time? I thought you're supposed to run all the time. And then I'm just watching. And then all of a sudden, you just see this little bolt of lightning, like, you know, just wobbling. And then all of a sudden, you're going, how can he be the best player in this sport? And then you see it and you go, damn. Yes, Marv.
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Paul Pabst
Hockey also has two of the best traditions in sports, the playoff beard and the playoff handshake after every series. Two of the best traditions in all the sports.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Yeah, it's. It's great. You know, it's fun. Playoff hockey. Yeah. Paul.
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Paul Pabst
The NHL didn't require players to wear helmets until the 79, 80 season, but if you entered the league the year before or anytime before, you were grandfathered in. So a lot of players said, no, you're not going to force me to the first ever hockey player to wear a helmet was a Boston Bruins defenseman named George Owen. He also played at Harvard football. So he grabbed his old Harvard leather helmet and wore it and was made fun of in the press.
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Dan Patrick
Soft.
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Paul Pabst
Yeah, there's a lot of different. In the 1930s, the Maple Leafs, the whole team were instructed to wear helmets and the media just crushed them.
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Dan Patrick
But the goaltender didn't have a mask.
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Paul Pabst
Like a man.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Wasn't that Jacques Plant? Wasn't he the first to wear a mask you imagine? No, and I remember seeing hockey mask where they would have like us makeshift stitches in it where they got hit and then they would, you know, have somebody draw stitches there. Craig McTavish, isn't he the last guy? Yeah, he was the last one who went without a helmet. Yes.
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Paul Pabst
Todd, did catchers in baseball always have a face mask? Was there a time where like you could just get hit right in the face with a fastball if you didn't.
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Dan Patrick
Get your glove up?
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Paul Pabst
You were thinking the early times they had either very antiquated equipment or maybe no equipment at the very early days. Imagine belittling a catcher or a hockey player because they want to protect their face from a pucker at baseball.
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Dan Patrick
Soft. Adam in Chicago. Hi Adam. What's on your mind today? Hey, Dan.
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Paul Pabst
To take him a call.
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Dan Patrick
Yep. Best and the worst were best. Arizona Baseball lost 18 to 2 and their first game in Chapel Hill. Three game series came back heavy. Underdogs. Dramatic fashion won the next two punch their ticket to Omaha. Mm.
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Paul Pabst
Worst.
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Dan Patrick
Europa League, first major title they've had in 20 something years and they go ahead and just punt their Australian manager to the curb just so spurs and then just had a question for you guys. Poll question or discuss amongst yourself. Curious. What is more enjoyable as a sports fan? Is it sitting down and actually watching the game, taking it in as it unfolds in front of you organically or is it afterwards, the next day what you guys do so well and what we all tune in for? Breaking it down.
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Paul Pabst
Hot.
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Dan Patrick
Taking it, discussing it, predicting the ramifications of the future. What do we actually enjoy more as sports fans? Take it in the game or. Yeah, I got it. Yeah, I got it. Big wind up there, Adam. Come on. Just to clarify. Streamline.
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Paul Pabst
Tough when people are long winded like that.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, I know. Don't you hate those people, Todd?
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Paul Pabst
There's got to be a shorter way to say that.
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Dan Patrick
Land the plane. Okay, land the plane. What do I like more? Chopping it up the day after or watching? I'd say Watching it, Yeah. I mean, that's why I got into this, because I was watching. And then you wanted to have the opportunity to talk about it. But, yeah, I would say watching, yeah.
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Paul Pabst
Paul, there is a cool feeling of certain sporting events. It's almost like a haze that stays with you the day after. Like the French Open the next day. Like, man, that was an experience, that game. Or triple overtime hockey. Like, the next morning you wake up. That was something I experienced last night. Where you almost want to talk about with anybody.
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Dan Patrick
Well, if you, you know, game one with the Pacers and OKC blows a big lead, and then you have, you know, Tyrese Halliburton with the game winner, and then you can break that down. But in the moment, like, nothing surpasses the moment of watching something like that. I enjoy looking back on something or having guests who will help you give you insights or you hear from the person who hit the shot. You know, that's the fun part of it as well, is adding to that. And that's what our job is always advancing. How do we advance? I don't always like looking back as much as you can look back, and then you look ahead. I think that's really, you know, that's essential in what we try to do. Yes.
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Paul Pabst
Todd, no one's at the water cooler at their job 11 hours after the fact. Did you see that shot? It's just you lose the moment. It happens right at that moment. At any rate, is there really a debate between watching something in the moment and talking about it several hours?
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Dan Patrick
Oh, yeah. Oh, I think so. I don't know if people go to the water cooler anymore. I don't know when we break room. I don't even know if we have break rooms. I don't know if people get together that way. I think you may on social media, I think you may correspond with your phone. I don't know if you know, a text chain. I don't know if you're. Hey, you're gonna chop it up in the break room with Tom and Skippy and Sally. You want to join us? Sure. I mean, I don't know if that happens at the mothership of the cafeteria, where all of a sudden everybody's sitting down and talking about what happened. I mean, usually when I got to the break room to have lunch, I didn't want to talk sports. Like, Bill Peto sits down, wants to talk, you know, Ranger hockey. I go, bill, no, not today. Get out of here. Get out of here.
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Paul Pabst
That's why he left.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Bill Peto Yes, Police. What a character. What a character Peter was. Let me take a break. We'll check in with the Thunder. One of their announcers, Michael Cage, former Seattle Supersonic, he'll join us and he'll tell us what we saw last night. We ready for a heavy dose of that, the rest of the finals. And Paul Feinbomb of the mothership. We'll talk about this settlement, what it means for college athletics, what it means for you as a fan. Have that for you coming up a little bit later on. We're back after this. And the Dan Patrick show.
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
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Paul Pabst
To 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports and of course, the iHeartRadio app.
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Dan Patrick
Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything, life, sports, relationships.
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Paul Pabst
What'S going on in the world.
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Dan Patrick
We have a lot of fun talking.
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Paul Pabst
About the stories behind the stories in.
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Dan Patrick
The world of sports and pop culture, stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends.
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Paul Pabst
For the last 20 years and still.
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Dan Patrick
Work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved, too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say. I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive.
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Paul Pabst
Show on planet Earth.
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Dan Patrick
Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search Kobe Noanrich wherever you get your podcast. And of course, on social media, that's Covino and Rich. Hi, Zoe Saldana. Welcome to T Mobile. Here's your new iPhone 16 Pro on us.
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
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Paul Pabst
Seriously. Let me check this pocket.
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Dan Patrick
Oh, mints. Really, I'm fine.
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
Listen to the American west with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
Real people, real perspectives.
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Paul Pabst
This kind of star studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just the compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osbourne.
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Dan Patrick
We have this misunderstanding of what this quote unquote drug thing is.
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Paul Pabst
Benny the Butcher, Brent Smith from Shinedown, Got be real from Cypress Hill, NHL enforcer Riley Cote, Marine Corvette, MMA fighter Liz Caramouche. What we're doing now isn't working and.
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Dan Patrick
We need to change things.
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Paul Pabst
Stories matter, and it brings a face to them.
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Dan Patrick
It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real.
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
And I'm Mila.
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
I've never seen so many women protect predatory men. And then me too.
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Paul Pabst
And then everybody else wanted to get pissed off because the white said it was okay. Problem.
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Dan Patrick
My oldest daughter, her first day in ninth grade and I called to ask how I was doing. She was like, oh, dad, all they were doing was talking about your thing in class. I ruined my baby's first day of high school.
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
Podcast network, the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you go to find your podcast. More phone calls coming up. We'll check in with Paul Feinbomb of the mothership on what this settlement means for nil and transfer portal and really the future of college Athletics and in particular college football. Michael Cage, Thunder TV analyst and he was in the NBA for what, 14 years? That sound about right, Paulie?
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Paul Pabst
Yeah, I think 84 to 2000.
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Dan Patrick
Oh, okay, that would be 16 years if my math would serve me correctly. Also, I believe, played college basketball with Tony Gwynn at San Diego State. Michael Cage joining us. Can we confirm those things, Michael?
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Paul Pabst
Yeah, let's see. Check for the years and check also with my man Tony Gwynn, God rest his soul, was a teammate of mine my freshman year at San Diego State. Spot on.
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Dan Patrick
Do you think Tony Gwynn could have played in the NBA?
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Paul Pabst
Yes, I do. And he was a terrific point guard, great leader on the floor, could shoot the mid range. Now you got to remember when I was in college, there was no three point line, so that, that three point line wasn't so much of a factor. But I watched him shoot and practice. He had range and man, he never told me, I got to tell you this, Dan, he never told me that he was that good of a baseball player until spring of his senior year, which was spring of my freshman year. He said, why don't you come watch me play? Yeah. And that was it, man, I became a fan.
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Dan Patrick
What was your welcome to the NBA moment?
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Paul Pabst
You know, I was drafted as a San Diego Clipper. So you just mentioned San Diego State, my, my alma mater. And I was like happy as a lark. Hey, I'm local kid. San Diego State just got drafted by the San Diego Clippers. And then two weeks later I got a phone call, you need to move up to LA and get an apartment somewhere. And I said, well, what does that mean? Well, the team has moved to Los Angeles. They're, they're now the Los Angeles Clippers. And I said, okay, this is what the NBA is like. Welcome to it.
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Dan Patrick
Michael, how much of a rivalry, like did you get? How lost is the, did the Clippers get in the, you know, the, the shadow, that huge shadow of the Lakers when you're in the same town, but people don't even know that you're there?
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Paul Pabst
Well, first of all, Dan, the LA is going to always be a Laker town. I mean, you know, they, they've been there, what, since 55, they're, they're Minneapolis days or whatever. And, but when we came there, my, my, you know, rookie year, I saw some, some fans, some Billy Crystals, penny marshals at the games.
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Dan Patrick
Hall was probably there.
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Paul Pabst
Yeah, he was there. And then, you know, when they did the infamous Coming to America movie, the writers came to the Clippers Game saw my hair and said, we're going to do the Soul Glow thing off of Michael Cage's hair. I said, okay, this is kind of cool. I didn't find that out till 10 years, 15 years later.
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Dan Patrick
But wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Because you had a Jheri curl.
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Paul Pabst
Can we keep this moving?
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Dan Patrick
No, no, you had hair. We should talk about when you had hair, Michael. But. So you had a Jheri curl.
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Paul Pabst
I did.
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Dan Patrick
And they. And so they writers looked at that and said, we're going to use that in Coming to America.
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Paul Pabst
That's what I found out years later from Rolling Stones magazine that called me and says, hey, we want to do a story on you with the whole Coming to America feature. I said, well, what. What does that have to do with me? He said, you didn't know? They said, well, the writers came to a clipper game. I'm sorry, I can barely get it out sometime. You got to have a sense of humor in my house. And this is a sense of humor. I tell you story for me. I turned around and said, well, tell me more. He says, well, they came to a clipper game and they were trying to think up some different scenes or acts for the movie Coming to America, the original one, and said, they saw your hair, and that was when the whole Soul Glow thing came in, you know, with. I tell you. And I said, okay, that's a big surprise, but I can give you whatever I can. I said, yeah, I wore it. But, you know, I was kind of. I was kind of like a. A baptism into the entertainment industry of Hollywood for me, with the hair thing and the Soul Glow and the Jheri curl, you know, all that stuff, man.
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Dan Patrick
But if you could still have that hair, but you had to wear it now since you're bald, would you go back? Would you do the Jheri curl?
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Paul Pabst
You know. You know about fashion, you know about style. What goes around, comes around is coming around. And if I could, I would, because I know I'm seeing the. The big Afro. When I was in high school, I had a big one, man. It was bigger than Michael Jackson's in the 70s.
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Dan Patrick
Whoa.
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Paul Pabst
That's how big mine was in high school, my first year of college. So I'm assuming. Yeah. If I. To answer your question. Yeah. Because I know it's going to come back around, man.
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Dan Patrick
We're talking to Michael Cage, the Thunder TV analyst and 14th overall pick by the Clippers in 1984, once led the NBA in rebounding. All right, what we saw last night felt like that Was emblematic of what you saw all season long with OKC. And I'll start with SGA because I like the 8 assist. It felt like he was, if he wasn't scoring, he would get into the paint, take the double team and then kick out. What else stood out for you with what you saw last night? And if you're telling a Pacer fan, get ready to see more of this. What would it be?
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Paul Pabst
Well, I, I think what you saw was a total team effort that got this team 68 wins last season. Because, you know, as much as there's a lead dog in sga, man, that dude is special. Man, I've been here. This is my 11th year as a broadcaster for the Thunder, and when I got here, we had Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, you know, that whole group. And that era was kind of, you know, at its last year or two run. And then we had to retool this team and, and get the Chris, Paul. And then, you know, there was the in between of Paul, George, Carmelo Anthony, along with Russell Westbrook. And then came the SGA story and along with him came, you know, a lot of hope, a lot of promise, a lot of progress, a lot of painstakingly growth. But what you saw last night, here's the answer, the bread and butter of your question that says this is this team's identity. What you saw from Aaron Wiggins coming off the bench, getting 18 points, which you saw from Alex Caruso, you know, getting 20 points. I mean, that's what, that's the identity of this team. Yeah, you can pick on SGA and say, look, we're going to try to stop him or we're going to let him score. If you let him score, he'll score 70. He'll kill you. I'm just telling you that now. So you, you have to respect, you know that, hey, he's the leading, he's the NBA's leading scorer, NBA's MVP, and he's not afraid of the moment. But there's a lot of depth to this team. And maybe you didn't see, you know, maybe you saw a peekaboo of that on a couple of nights earlier in game one where the, the Thunder led the whole way and then lost the game at the end on the Halliburton shot. But you know, the depth of this team, Isaiah Hardenstein, Chad Holmgren, I mean, Lou Dort, Cason Wallace, you know, I've already mentioned AC and Aaron Wiggins. It just goes on and on, man. This is what this team is about. And that's what you're probably going to expect from the for the rest of the series.
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Dan Patrick
Who does SGA remind you of on the offensive end?
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Paul Pabst
You know, and I say this with respect and he reminds me of a Jordan like player. He's not afraid of contact, he's not afraid to get in the mid range. He's got the three point shot, you know, in, in his pocket, but he pulls it out timely when he wants to. You know how it is in to today's modern NBA, you know, it's, it's offenses are based around either the deep three three point shot or the deep paint finish. He's brought back the mid range. You know, when you talk about guys that like made a living in the mid range, like the Demar DeRozan's type players, SGA has really made teams start going, wait a minute now, maybe we wouldn't, shouldn't be focusing so much on three point shooters. Yeah, that's important. That's an important part of the game. Analytically I believe that. But that mid range where he dominates, where he is just fun to watch, that's where he reminds me of Jordan.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, he's Jordan under the rim, you know, because Mike played at a different level, literally and figuratively. But SGA can get his shot like you, you watch and you go, how does he do it? There's certain guys that you go, okay, I get, you know, that they're great scores or they get their shot. There's other guys where you go, I don't get it. But he keeps doing it every single night. And you know, when you look at consistency at leading the league and scoring. Does he want to lead the league in scoring?
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Paul Pabst
I don't think so. I think what I've seen in Shea since he got here after we traded for him after one season in Los Angeles with the Clippers, I saw a, a scrawny kid who was just hungry, wanted to win. And when I've talked to him, when I've seen him, he's always got that kind of approach to the game. He's, he's a, he's a magnet for friendships. You know, I heard a story and I, and I knew about it, but I'm glad it got out about him becoming friends, really close friends with Lou Dort, you know, lose Lou's first year with the team as well. Lou didn't have a place to stay yet and Shea had just gotten here his first season. Say, why don't you stay with me? I'm not married. I don't have any kids? He's married. He has, you know, beautiful family now Shay does. And they, they were roommates for a season, and then he turned around and when we drafted J Dub, you know, who's going to be a rising star, a tremendous player so far in this league, he. He said, look, because you're my rookie, I want you to pick me up and take me to the airport every road trip. See that kind of camaraderie? That's pretty cool, man.
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Dan Patrick
Did you have a Jordan moment?
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Paul Pabst
You know, good question. Here. Here's my Jordan moment. Maybe he wasn't Jordan to everyone else, but I played with Michael Jordan on the national team, 1983 Pan Am Games. We won the gold medal down in Caracas, Venezuela. He was my roommate that whole summer, and he was my roommate at the Village doing the Pan Am Games and the tryouts that we had the year earlier, where there was Charles Barkley, all these, you know, Carl Malone, John Stockton, you know, all these up and coming names. And there was this kid that everybody wanted to see over on court three. Now I'm on Court one, there's court two, court three. And he said, this is Jordan kid, you know, he. He's. He's at North Carolina. You got to go over there and see him. I said, I already know about him, but I'm like, on after my game is over, I'm going over to court three and see who this guy. And I saw him play and I just said, man, he is so far above the rest of us. And I knew at that moment, in 1982, at the tryouts and at the games, in 83, this guy was going to be the truth, and he certainly was now. Did we ever think he eclipsed where he, you know, got to? No. But I'm not surprised because he's handled that kind of fame and that kind of, you know, success really well.
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Dan Patrick
You seem really mild mannered, nice, cordial. Did you have any moments with Larry Bird where he would trash talk you?
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Paul Pabst
Yeah, he just looked at me my rookie year and just said, you know, you can't stop me. And I said, I know. There's just nothing else to say. You're Larry Bird.
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Dan Patrick
And I. And I.
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Paul Pabst
And I got that kind of, you know, seasoning from Magic Johnson, too, because I was right there in town when I should see him at grocery stores around LA and, you know, at the gas station sometimes, or we're all going into practice because we practice the same practice site at Loyola Marymount back in those days, and. And Magic would just come up to me and talk to me and then turn around and kick my butt. I said, I don't know which one I like. I like the quiet bird kick your butt thing. Then Magic shaking your hands. You know I'm going at you, right?
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Dan Patrick
You know, thank you for the stories, Michael, and good luck the rest of the the series there.
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Paul Pabst
Thanks, Dan. Great. Great having me, man. Enjoy the rest of the playoffs.
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Dan Patrick
That's Michael Cage, the pride of San Diego State. Yes. NBA rebounding leader back in 1987-88. Yeah, I had the Jerry curl. I always remember that. It's like Michael Cage, Jerry curl. Those are fun stories. All right, let me see. Got a couple of phone calls in here. Pete in Iowa. Hi, Pete. What's on your mind today? Yeah, I got a best and worst and quick question for you. The best and worst was the same thing, Paul schemes yesterday. It's seven and two thirds innings. Gave up one earned run and got pulled with Philly. Got on first, got pulled, gets no decision, and it was just terrible. It's such a great game and gets no credit for you. Yep. And my question is, I'm an old guy, 72. I shot 69 the other day. Look at you. I wonder you're getting up there. Do you ever think you'll be able to shoot your age in golf? Yeah, I get to my age, it's just I have to keep playing like four more holes though, Pete, so that's the problem. Thanks for showing off there, shooting your age. You can give me a thank you. Thank you, thank you. Here all week. Here all week. When we come back, the danets will give you their best and worst of the weekend. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9:00am Eastern, 6:00am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio. Hi, Zoe Saldana. Welcome to T Mobile. Here's your new iPhone 16 Pro on us.
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I don't really have much in my purse. Oh, let's see. Hand sanitizer. It's lavender.
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Dan Patrick
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Seriously. Let me check this pocket.
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Dan Patrick
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Oh, I have raisins. I'm a mom. Wait, wait one sec. I've got cupcakes in the car.
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
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Paul Pabst
In a very big way.
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Dan Patrick
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Paul Pabst
This is kind of star studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just the compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne.
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Dan Patrick
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
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Paul Pabst
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
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Paul Pabst
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Dan Patrick
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Paul Pabst
Almost went Alcaraz, but I'm going hockey Friday night, Stanley cup final, game two between the Panthers and Oilers. After game one went to overtime, this one went double OT Brad Marchand shorthanded.
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Dan Patrick
Go ahead, goal in the second, then.
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Paul Pabst
Gets the game winning goal in double overtime, also on a breakaway. Worst Chicago Sky's Courtney Vandersloot suffered a right knee injury Saturday night. Had to be carried off the court by her teammates in the first quarter against the Indiana Fever. No further word on her condition.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, I think it's a torn acl. Seaton o' Connor, best and worst of the weekend. We'll go with a double. Best Dan and your favorite. It's both going to be. They're both soccer related. Oh, yes, yes. I know you've been waiting for this part of the show. Let's go. Best of the weekend, I went to US Men's national team versus Turkey. A US lost, which was unfortunate. However, Turkey have two players that are really, really exciting on like the world stage. And they're both young, they're both 20 years old. Arta Guler plays for Real Madrid and Keenan Yildiz plays for Juventus. Those are both kids that say, 20 years from now you could be like, I got to see them play. They're both, they're both really, really high level. Lamina Mal gets a lot of attention. Arta Guler is right behind him. He's a really exciting player. Got to see him. That was awesome. And then Portugal beating Spain in the Nations League final. That was awesome. Especially because Ronaldo was there and he scored as well. And he, you know, he's kind of disappeared off of the world stage a bit because of the league that he plays in now. But it was a great reminder of just how special of a player he still is at 40. Yeah, he took the money and I don't know how. How much money did he make? Does he make like $100 million? Yeah, it's a gajillion dollars. Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah. Who was the guy who played like one. One match, got hurt and still got paid it like 100 Neymar. Okay, so Neymar, that's my favorite player. I love Neymar. Yeah, he went, he signed in Saudi Arabia. He signed for like an unbelievable amount of money. He ended up playing like two games, scoring like one goal and two assists or something and got paid like $250 million. And. And now he's back in Brazil playing for his Childhood club. Marvin. Best and worst of the weekend.
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Paul Pabst
My best hall, a very good nominee. Andrew McCutcheon hit a go ahead, go ahead single for the Pittsburgh Pirates who swept the Philadelphia Phillies this weekend.
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Dan Patrick
So good for them. Yeah.
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Paul Pabst
My worst of the weekend, the Colorado Rockies. As soon as they had a three game winning streak, they go back to.
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Dan Patrick
A three game losing streak.
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Paul Pabst
Getting swept by the Mets over the weekend.
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Dan Patrick
Paul Best and worst of the weekend.
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Paul Pabst
Friday night, University of Texas softball team beating Texas Tech. Great tv, great drama, their first ever national title. And the other best of the weekend because I don't have a worst man. I love John McEnroe on tennis. Never get rid of him. One of the handful of people that elevates every broadcast. The bigger the better and he's awesome.
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Dan Patrick
Zach in Knoxville. Hey, Zach, what's on your mind today? Oh, hey, D.P.
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Paul Pabst
Thanks for taking my call.
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Dan Patrick
Potential poll question. Better Kansas State Wildcat, Michael Beasley or Jacob Poland? The only time I get to use that reference. Thank you guys. But I wanted to ask you about the OKC head coach, Mark. I don't know how to pronounce his last name, but he doesn't seem to be getting a lot of attention. And I think the run that he is on with a young team, being young himself. Just want you to talk about what you think of the job that he's doing right now. Wasn't he the coach of the year the previous year? So he has gotten recognition, you know, win a title, win a title. And you could kind of be in that, you know, entering the Eric Spoelstra type feel. And Spoelster is going to be a Hall of Fame coach. He's already a Hall of Fame coach in my mind. But you know, then you get into that category. You know, one thing I was thinking about when I watched some of the tennis towards the end, when you look at Alcaraz, a lot of athletes build off what has preceded them. You know, NBA players, you know, they may have seen what happened with that player or that team. And you know, in tennis, Alcaraz, it felt like he was channeling Rafa Nadal with just the spirit of I'm not going to go away. Djokovic's composure and then Roger Federer's touch. So when you, you put the combo platter together, you understand he's 22 years of age and is the future of tennis and hopefully Yannick Sinner is as well. And then you get that rivalry because that's what makes it fun when you have somebody where, you know, Borg and McEnroe. It was just great. I know we didn't really get to see somebody stand up to Serena because Serena was so great. There were players who were really good. But you want that rivalry. That's what it's all about. Going head to head, toe to toe. I mean, that's why we love Bird and Magic. It started in college, kept going in the NBA. They did have a couple of head to head matchups. You know, for a championship. That's what you want. You know, we were looking for that with Jordan. It just never happened. You know, maybe it was going to be Malone and Stockton. They had a couple of tries, didn't work. Magic at the end of his career wasn't ready for Michael. You know, that. That's the fun part of it. When you look back and you go, boy, those right. You know, Ali and Frazier, like, you wanted to have that. And, you know, Mike Tyson never really had that. You know, I mean, the guys he would fight normally weren't great fighters. And then he would fight somebody like Holyfield, who was a great boxer. He couldn't beat him. Lennox Lewis, he wanted no part of. Because Lennox Lewis was bigger than him and a better boxer. Mike was just a highlight. Yeah, Paulie.
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Paul Pabst
I went back and looked it up after you said it about Serena Williams, who was her biggest rival. Well, it was her sister. That's the person who gave her the most trouble over her career, the second best. This is wild. Against Maria Sharapova, who was considered one of the best in the world. Serena was 20 and two in her career.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, I was gonna say, wow. Yeah. Like, we wanted Sharapova. You know, we were hoping for Sharapova, but it wasn't realistic. And Serena knew that everybody wanted Sharapova, and that's why she went out of her way to make sure that she didn't just beat her, that she dominated. Yes. Morgan, it's not like golf when they.
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Paul Pabst
Tried to make David Duvall the heir apparent.
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Dan Patrick
Well, David Duvall was the number one player in the world. I just don't think that he wanted to commit to what it took to be the number one player in the world, because he went crazy in shape and health and, like, he's not Tiger. This was all Tiger cared about. This is what Tiger was built to do. David Duvall just became a great golfer and the number one player, like, Tiger never wanted to lose it. David Duvall then was like, I just want to be like a normal guy, maybe get married and have kids. And Tiger wanted to be Great. Still wants to be great, I'm sure. But I. I think that singular focus Tiger was comfortable with, I don't think David Duvall was. I think David talked about they were playing at the British Open and Tiger ended up winning the British Open and beating David maybe. And they had. They were flying back on the same private plane. So there's. There's Tiger with the trophy. You know, David's sitting across from him. Oh, I can't see your face, David. Let me move the trophy over there. Oh, okay. There you are. Yeah. I'm sure Tiger didn't make any reference. No. Having won. No. You imagine if Michael Jordan would have done something like that? Be like, somebody say, you got a parachute? Because I'm going to get out of this plane. Paul Finebaum, he'll join us. What is the future of college sports? College football? I got questions. I don't know if he's got answers. More phone calls as well on this Monday. Back after this.
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Paul Pabst
I know a lot of cops. They get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. This is absolute Season 1, Taser, Incorporated.
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Dan Patrick
I get right back there, and it's bad.
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Paul Pabst
Listen to Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Why is a soap opera western like Yellowstone so wildly successful? The American west with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6, where we'll delve into stories of the west and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to the American west with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts.
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Dan Patrick
Or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lodd.
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Paul Pabst
And this is season two of the.
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Dan Patrick
War on Drugs podcast. Last year, a lot of the problems.
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Paul Pabst
Of the drug war. This year, a lot of the biggest names in music and sports. This kind of star studded a little bit, man. We met them at their homes. We met them at the recording studios. Stories matter, and it brings a face to it.
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Dan Patrick
It makes it real. It really does.
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Paul Pabst
It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs Podcast, Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of.
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Dan Patrick
3C Ventures, and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what' next in this episode, I'm joined by Angeli Su, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming.
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Paul Pabst
What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There's so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content. The term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.
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Dan Patrick
Listen to Good company on the iHeartRadio.
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Paul Pabst
App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Foreign motherhood are back and better than ever. I'm Erica.
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Dan Patrick
And I'm Mila, and we're the hosts.
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Paul Pabst
Of the Good Moms Bad Choices Podcast, brought to you by the Black Effect Podcast Network every Wednesday.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, we're moms, but not your mommy.
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Paul Pabst
Historically, men talk too much and women have quietly listened. And all that stops here.
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Dan Patrick
If you like witty women, then this is your try.
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Paul Pabst
Listen to the Good Mom's Bad Choices.
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Dan Patrick
Podcast every Wednesday on the Black Effect podcast network, the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you go to find your podcast. This is an iHeart podcast.