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Clayton English
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I'm Greg Lott and this is season.
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Clayton English
Two of the War on Drugs podcast.
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Unknown
Last year a lot of the problems of the drug war. This year, a lot of the biggest names in music and sports.
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Clayton English
It's kind of star studded a little bit, man.
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We met them at their homes, we met them at the recording studios. Stories matter and it brings a Face to it.
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Clayton English
It makes it real.
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It really does. It makes it real.
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Clayton English
Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs Podcast Season 2 on the iHeartra app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
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You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Hope you had a great weekend, everybody. Hour two gangs all here, ready to go. Minister of humor, Fritzi Seaton, Marv, Polly, yours truly, the back room guys. Kevin Clark covers the NFL, NFL draft for the Mothership, the this Is Football podcast. He will join us coming up. Best and worst of the weekend. What you saw, that you liked, you didn't like. Tim Legler, analyst for the Mothership, will stop by. As we look at the Lakers with what happened yesterday afternoon and they are limping towards the finish line and is that finish line going to be a first round exit? You're watching yesterday and I kept thinking, has JJ Redick made a substitution in the second half? Friend of mine goes, nope. Everybody played all starting 5, 24 minutes in the second half. Now if they won, would I, would I have revisionist history? I would to a certain degree because I would say, well, he knows his team, but I got Luca, who hasn't been healthy and I got LeBron at his age playing against a really young team, it just felt like they, they needed a breather. Luca and LeBron needed a breather at one point there and you saw LeBron at the end of the game. Those are plays you make when you're tired. And Luca was not threatening. And man, Anthony Edwards is coming at you. He's like, Ronnie Lott. Ronnie Anthony Edwards plays basketball the way Ronnie Lott played football. I'm coming and it's gonna hurt. And you saw that yesterday, that they were down 13 late in the third, came back, hit some big shots and you had some non typical plays by LeBron James. Bad three, a turnover, a foul on Edwards, but they still had a chance. Austin Reeves, you gotta be ready, get your feet ready in the corner. You know that they're gonna make Luca and LeBron give up the ball. You had an open three be ready. And he wasn't. Yes, Marvin, Anthony Edwards is starting to.
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Have a tradition of just eliminating legends. Yeah, he eliminated his favorite player of all time, Kevin Durant last year. They stopped the Nuggets last year with yo with joker and now LeBron possibly.
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And LeBron had 27 and 12. And I always want to know, when are you getting your 27 or when are you getting your 12? Because he didn't score in the fourth quarter. That comes down to you're tired. That's bottom line. What do you have? Two shot attempts. That's somebody who's tired. And you knew Luca wasn't healthy. But here's JJ Redick defending his lack of substitutions.
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Let's just start with Luca got tripped.
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I mean, that was a blatant trip.
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Greg Lott
He doesn't just fall on his own.
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Dutch Advertiser
We watched it. You know, he gets tripped. So we should have been at the free throw line.
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Unknown
You know, you not. That's not an excuse for why we.
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Lost, but we got fouled and, you know, we had a chance to go up.
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Unknown
You work on the end game stuff.
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Dutch Advertiser
You know, you draw it up and you tell guys very specific things. We didn't execute it. And very obvious, we didn't execute it. So I don't know what.
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Greg Lott
That's my only vantage point.
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Unknown
And Luca didn't get tripped. He stepped on the defender's shoe and slipped. But. And I think he's talking about Austin Reeves being ready for that moment because that's the play that's going to be run, and he wasn't ready for that. CAVS Heat, game four. Rockets, warriors, game four. That'll be coming up later on today. 877 3DP. Show operator Tyler sitting by. He'll take your phone calls. Best and worst of the weekend. Say good morning if you're watching on Peacock, our streaming partner. Thank you for downloading the app. By the way, Law and Order Organized crime is back for a new season. Follow Detective Elliot Stabler and the rest of the NYPD's Organized Crime Control Bureau Season 5. Streaming now exclusively on Peacock. I've never watched one of those shows before. How's that possible? I don't know, because it's always on. Or some variation of Law and Order I haven't watched. What's the other one? Csi. Never watched an episode of CSI New Orleans or Poughkeepsie. Yes, Eaton.
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There are times that we've been on the road doing the show. Say, like, we'd get to New York City when we had the New York City studio. I might get to New York and watch four straight hours of Law and Order.
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I just like when they get in the courtroom. And I'm sure that they probably have the same sayings over. Todd, could you give me rundown what happens with Law and Order once they get into the courtroom?
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Greg Lott
Watch it, Counselor, you're treading on thin ice here. My chambers. Now. Get to the point, counselor.
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Unknown
Anything else?
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Greg Lott
Just, you know, Sustained. Overruled. Badgering, all that kind of stuff. But I.
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Unknown
Is there a question here?
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Greg Lott
How is that? Relevance, your honor? Relevance.
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Unknown
I'm going to.
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Greg Lott
I'm getting. Is get to it now, Counselor.
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Unknown
Yes, Paul.
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I'm at the point with Law and order. When I tune into the first three minutes, I'm like, oh, the assistant principal's gonna be guilty at the end. You know what's coming up. They repeat them so often.
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All right, let's pull question for hour two, actually. What was it for hour one? And then we'll get to our two.
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Let's see, we got a few of them there. Who do you want to see on Hard Knocks this year, Cleveland or the Browns? A lot of people not getting that joke right now. The Browns have 64% of the vote. Okay, that's great. We also have up there who had the worst weekend, Shador Dion or Mel. Or Mel Kuiper right now with 47% of the vote.
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Do you want to guess that one, Melka?
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Yes.
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Mel Kuiper Jr. Right now running away with that one. Dion only has 20% of that vote. And then we also have another one up there. Should draftees. This one's from Paulie. Should draftees be allowed to go back to college?
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Paulie sent me a note. He's. And, and then I did some research and I, I reached out to somebody with the NFL and I said, could Shador Sanders go back to college because he had another year of eligibility? And I was told he could. It would take a herculean effort to be able to go back and, you know, decide you're going to play one more year. But, you know, Quinn Ewers, I guess he could have gone back and had one more year. He was drafted in the seventh round.
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Yeah.
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Paulie, from what I've read, that as of the draft, they cannot go back and they'd have to sue and change policy and it would probably take so long they wouldn't get back. Yeah, but a guy like Quinn, yours, if his draft value was drastically less than what he thought, what about a new rule opening up to give you your back of eligibility?
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Well, I thought he was transferring. I was told he was transferring because he wasn't getting a good draft grade and he should have transferred. He could have made. He should have gone to Miami instead of Carson Beck, the Georgia quarterback, and probably got four or five million dollars and he's a better quarterback. Yeah.
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Paul, even though yours played well at Texas this year, his job was not there for him next year. Yes, there is Rumors that Notre Dame was looking at him for five plus million and other schools. He'll make $700,000 this year with Miami.
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Yeah, if he makes the roster.
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Yeah.
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Like there are a lot of decorated quarterback. Will Howard won a national title at Ohio State and he was a really good quarterback at Kansas State. He goes late. I mean, there are a lot of quarterbacks drafted, but everybody focused on Shador Sanders and I understand that because it had to do with Deion. And are you drafting Dion as well as Shador? Let's say you're Kevin Stefanski in Cleveland and it doesn't work out well this year. Does Jimmy Haslam, the Browns owner, go, Dion, do you want to come in and coach your son? Like, I, I, I don't think you can rule out that scenario because Dion has said if he could coach his son, then that might be something he does entertains down. Remember Dion, they wanted him to coach the Cowboys. So if you're, or, well, some of the media wanted him to coach the Cowboys. But I, I don't rule out that possibility of. And I think Shador Sanders will start at least one game this year. I really do. And, and you know, now you're starting to hear the stories and what happened and why it happened. I still go back to Tom Brady. We, everybody told us Tom Brady's now making decisions for the Raiders and he's known Shador Sanders a long time. You have Geno Smith. Okay, maybe the next two years. You know Shador Sanders as well as anybody, if not better than anybody. You've worked him out. Dion has asked you to come in, mentor him. And Tom Brady passed on him how many times. And it's not like that quarterback room. And I know you, you just gave Gino an extension here, but can you get a bargain? Do you want to bring somebody in who you've known? And he chose not to. But how many teams really needed a quarterback? And I think that's what it came down to, a quarterback, you know, in the first round or second round. Because after that, like Jaylen Milro with Seattle. I love that. I think that's great. But he's going to be able to develop. And Sam Darnold's there. Who else? Drew Locke is there. So, okay, you know, Tyler Schuck, I told you that teams really liked him. I, I didn't know he's going to go before Chador and Jackson Dart. My source said he had a first round grade for him and the Giants went back in and, you know, drafted him in the first round. It just wasn't a great, like, just because, you know, we're looking at quarterbacks, where would they have been drafted last year when you actually had quality quarterbacks there? And Shador is probably, you know, ninth or 10th quarterback, so maybe he would have been a third or fourth round pick last year. But then you start to hear the baggage involved in this. Cam Ward would have been the sixth or seventh quarterback. He's the number one pick overall. Jackson Dart, maybe he's the eighth quarterback. So I think you gotta. It's this year compared to last year, and they're playing the same position and you're looking at their grades. And that's probably why Shador slipped a little bit. But maybe they didn't. He's not viewed as a starter, but I think in Cleveland, even though Dylan Gabriel is a. I mean, he's a decorated, you know, two different places. He's a decorated quarterback. Nice, small, he's under six feet, but he is dynamic. He's a. He's a playmaker. And, you know, does he get an opportunity to start a game? I mean, Tommy DeVito started a game in the end. I mean, come on, 60 quarterbacks started games last year. I think maybe a little more than that. Odds are he's going to get a chance to start a game or two. Yeah.
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Paulie, you mentioned all the 20, 26 mock drafts that are way too early, that already dropped almost all of them. I look through about six of them. Have Arch Manning in the top five out of Texas. He has. He's thrown 60 passes in his college career. And the other thing is, everyone assumes he's going to go out next year after one season of college football. Yeah, I doubt it.
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All right, so Kevin Clark will join us, talk some football. Let's see. Anything else, Cam? Scatter Boo. Goes to the Giants. All right. Little. Little east coast football there. I like that. And don't know if there was anything else. Oh, the, the Falcon situation with the defensive coordinator, his son. Let me see. Get the names right. Is this Jeff Albrecht? He admitted that his son made a prank phone call to Shador Sanders during the draft and apologize in an Instagram post on Sunday. So Jeff Ulbricht's son, Jax, I think he's at Mississippi. And he, he, he called him. He was impersonating the New Orleans Saints general manager, Mickey Loomis, and apparently he told Sanders, we're going to take you with our next pick, man, but you're gonna have to wait a little longer, man. Sorry about that. Okay. I guess he got the phone number from his father's Rolodex laptop, whatever it is. Sanders said he wasn't bothered by the prank calls. There were a couple other players. Tyler Warren, the Colts tight end, he received a plank prank phone call before he was selected. There were a couple of players in the sixth round who were pranked as well. The NFL is looking into this, and I don't know what they do to Atlanta and Jeff Ulbricht, but. And they're not even sure if, you know, the defensive coordinator's son was involved in the other prank phone calls as well. Yes.
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How serious of a problem is that for you?
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The fact that you're letting, like, you have the information, you know, the contact information. I mean, this should be under lock and key. Now, you don't think your son is going to prank somebody, but if I'm the NFL, I probably do something to Jeff Ulbricht. Now, I don't know if you find him or maybe you take away a draft pick or. But, you know, you. You stole a moment, you know, and that. That's. It's. You made it about you and the. The NFL should do something in this situation, in my opinion. Yeah, Paulie.
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If you guys were the father, the defensive coordinator, what would the punishment be for the son?
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I'd probably take him out of school right now. I'd say, come on, why don't you come home? Is this a prank phone call, dad? No, this is real. Yes.
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There are a few things worse that you could do to your parents than.
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Embarrass them in the workplace, you know?
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Yeah, that. That's. That's. Yeah, right.
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He.
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He compromised that kid, compromised his father's work integrity and humiliated him on a massive global scale. Everybody knows about this story, man. That's not great.
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And it's not like, okay, Tyler Warren, the great Penn State tight end, okay, that would have gotten a little bit of coverage. This was Shador slipping, and it felt like you're piling on. You're making fun of him or his situation. Yes, Todd.
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Greg Lott
And what's the motivation? Is it particularly funny or clever? Like, obviously, the father would ask the son, why would you do something like that? But what can you possibly respond with when you're asked, why would you do something like that?
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Unknown
I think if you look at the video, they're having a great old time. Like, hey, look, look, how about we do this? I got all this information. Hey, we can call these guys, and then you just sit in your dorm room or frat house and giggle and drink beers and your Dad's the defensive.
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Greg Lott
Coordinator of the Falcons. Maybe we should rethink this for a second.
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Unknown
Oh, do you think that they actually thought, I hope there'd be one smart.
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Greg Lott
Person in the room. It's like, this would be a bad look if somehow they traced this call. They found out that you stole that from your dad, who's a pro coordinator.
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Unknown
Okay, but how many times you've been with your boys and somebody says, I don't know if this is a good idea? It doesn't happen. It's like, yeah. Yeah.
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Okay.
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Yeah. Excuse me. I don't think this is right. That guy doesn't get in your group anymore if you have that guy, like, you don't want him.
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Greg Lott
I thought, like, petty crimes, like, watch me steal this Gatorade from the fridge of the. You know, the Superette. But now I'm.
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Unknown
That kind of thing. Super. Yeah.
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Greg Lott
One of those little super red supermarkets is like, I'm gonna steal this beer or something like a. But this is a totally different story. There's not cameras, and a whole world of people that are going to. Could possibly find out about it. I'm going to steal this candy bar. Come on. This will be cool.
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Unknown
Thank you, Todd.
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Greg Lott
Welcome. Ridiculous.
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Unknown
What just happened?
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I don't know. I have no idea. I think you just hijacked this the way that kid hijacked.
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What could possibly be the motivation in which one would secure someone's private phone number and then use it for some.
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Greg Lott
Type of nefarious purposes?
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Unknown
For some type of humorous situation, perhaps?
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Greg Lott
Maybe that's a much higher level than just doing something silly with the guys.
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Unknown
Oh, that's highbrow humor. Is that what that is from a Superette Stealing a Gatorade Superet? Yeah. Yes.
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Bring back Superettes.
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Ritzy, you have more numbers than anybody in this room with famous people. You do, too, Dan. But has you ever been in a situation, Todd, where, like, you're nervous about your numbers or protecting them with your son or his friends or anybody?
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I put.
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Greg Lott
Never crossed my mind.
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Unknown
I put codes in fake names for people. Yes.
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Yeah.
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Yes. Yeah. Because I do worry about that, you know, when you got Taylor Swift's number in here. I mean, I just. Yeah. When I have Lady Gaga's phone number in here.
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Ulysses just got.
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No, I. I put in Freddie Mercury.
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Oh, there you go.
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Because Lady Gaga, she came up with her name from a song, a Queen song. Radio Gaga.
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All I know is I tweeted I would have drafted him. The NFL doesn't know what they're doing. I would have drafted him. Oh, and a few rounds later, he's drafted. So you're welcome.
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Seaton has taken your Donald Trump impersonation.
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All I know is I tweeted about it. I would have taken him.
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He was calling people the NFL idiots I think are stupid because they weren't drafting Shador Sanders. Anywho.
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Greg Lott
All right, we'll lower the price of the eggs. Be patient. Be 10 cents an egg by June 1st. Just relax.
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Unknown
First round talent. I got him at a bargain out of the deal. That's how I do.
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How about we take a break, get some more phone calls. Coming up on this Monday, Dan and the Dan it's Dan Patrick Show. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app, search FSR to listen live.
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Ryan Seacrest
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I wanted to scream.
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Unknown
More phone calls coming up. Best and worst of the weekend. We will give you hours. Yes, we will address the Bill Belichick interview that he had with CBS THIS Morning as he has a new book out about winning. I didn't really care that his girlfriend got involved. From what I'm told, she gets involved in just about everything there. But he didn't want to acknowledge Robert Kraft. And do we have that cut, Marvin, where he talks about Robert Kraft or the lack of mentions of Robert Kraft in his book about winning?
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I have to ask about Robert Kraft because 24 years together, six Super Bowls.
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Unless I'm wrong, he's not in this book. How come he's not? Well, again, it's about my life lessons.
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In football and it's really more about the ones that I experience directly.
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He's not even in the acknowledgment section. Correct.
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Do you feel like you were treated.
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With dignity and respect when you were.
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Let go by Robert Kraft?
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Yeah.
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Well, it was a mutual decision for that would to for us the part ways awkward. Awkward. But you know what? He's asking real questions there. Man does. You're not allowed to talk about his relationship and then you don't even acknowledge Robert Kraft in the acknowledgment part of the book there. And then he was quick to say it was mutual. It's mutual that he chose to leave the New England Patriots. Okay, let's bring in Kevin Clark, host and analyst for Omaha Productions, espn, and host of this Is Football podcast here. What do you think Bill Belichick was really saying there, Kevin?
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The same thing he's been saying for 25 years. Nothing. I think he's trying to treat CBS THIS Morning and a lot of these other places like he did The New England media, and it's not going to work. Like, that's the problem in college. You have to go out and recruit. You have to win over the fan base. And he hasn't done that. Like, I think I saw some UNC beat writers saying, like, there was no access during spring, like, this is not the Patriot way anymore. So what was he saying about Kraft specifically is. I don't think he likes him very much, but I think that you have to address that because you have to talk with the elephants in the rooms at this point. When you're. When you're selling a book, that's when you address the elephants in the room. Dan.
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Yeah. He's just such a bad interview, even when he's trying to be. I'm sure his girlfriend is saying, bill, let's go over scenarios. And she would play the role of interviewer. Right. And she would ask him questions. I mean, I'm guessing, like, she's really involved in this, you know, this whole North Carolina situation here.
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She seems to be a bad publicist. That seems to be my. My read on the situation is that she seems to not have a grip on what questions are inbounds. Also, like, the don't. We don't talk about the relationship thing. It's already out there. How they met. I mean, you can. You can do this. You can give. Give the people what they want. Give us a little bit of, we met on an airplane. It was love at first sight, the whole thing. This is not hard. They made it hard.
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Well, now I really want to know. They made, like, wait a minute. What else happened here? It's like when Tiger woods and his new girlfriend send out a picture.
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Yeah.
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And then they say, respect our privacy.
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Yeah.
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I did respect your privacy until just now.
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I no longer respect your privacy.
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All right. The draft in Green Bay. Give me the second biggest story of the draft.
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Oh, my gosh. Well, first of all, from a college football perspective, you guys mentioned earlier, Quinn Ewers cost himself about $4 million. Okay. Like, that. That's an important thing. He could have gone to Miami and the Carson Beck roll. There's so many schools, Oregon, who are looking for a veteran presence. So for me, that drop was significant. But, you know, when I look at some of these teams that are building, like, I think Washington knocked it out of the park. And I don't see a scenario in which they're not in a Super bowl in the next five years, because I look at Josh Connerly, I look at Tremos, who I think is really good Cornerback, the receiver they got from Virginia Tech was a great athlete. Like I'm looking at some of these teams, I'm just seeing a pathway here. I think the commander's doing everything right. They're getting the stadium here today. I guess they're going to have the new RFK site there. So I think the second biggest thing aside from Shadow Sanders is just some of these teams are kind of building into a superbook now. I think Cam Ward is probably the second biggest thing because I think he's a Mahomes like talent. I'm the one guy who's going out there and saying, by the way, the number one overall pick, he's pretty good. I know we don't want to talk about the number one overall pick, but I think he's phenomenal. I went to Miami, I saw every snap from him, I promise. People say, oh, you're a Miami homer. Nobody's hated watching Miami more than me over the past 20 years. Okay, I'm the opposite of a homer. But I just saw what he was able to do on a snap to snap basis and he's able to do. Steve Young was on my show a couple of years ago and he says about Mahomes. I think about a lot. He said everyone talks about the Superman, but what makes Mahomes Mahomes is the Clark Kent. You know, the basics, the hitting the guy over the middle, taking the check down. Cam Ward does both of those things really well. I think that's what's going to make him special. I think Tennessee is not going to have the same infrastructure that Kansas City had. So if I say he's Mahomes, it's not going to be the same path because there's no Kelsey, there's no. There's no Tyree Kill, there's no Andy Reid. But I think you're going to see instant, instant success from. From Cam Ward and I think he's going to change the Titans franchise. That franchise. He's a little juice Dan. I don't know if you've noticed. Yeah, there's nothing going on there.
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The situation with the Browns in Jacksonville with that trade. Yeah, okay. We can take out the talent. You know, we'll start with that and just say. And by it felt by a lot of indicators that Jacksonville did an incredible job. But. But Cleveland did an even better job of fleecing Jacksonville.
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I agree.
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So you think Jacksonville wanted.
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They both. They both won because the Browns are looking at this and saying desean Watson set us back probably more than the four years on the Contract. Okay, that's, that's important. They're not trying to win now. They, if they were trying to win now, they would, they would have drafted Travis Hunter and gone from there. They wouldn't have drafted Dylan Gabriel in the third round, they wouldn't have drafted Shira Sanders in the fifth round. They understand where they are. The Jaguars, again, you talk about a franchise that needs some juice, needs a little, you know, in market kick in the butt. You got to start there. What's going on in Jacksonville? They have a new coach, they have a new GM for me, when you have a special talent. The first press conference I was ever at as an NFL journalist was Mike Shanahan right after the RG3 trade. And he asked rhetorical question. He said, what did the Broncos give up for John Elway? Nobody knew. You know why? Because nobody cared. Nobody, nobody, nobody was saying, oh, they over. They added, oh, I can't believe they added another second round pick. No, they got a franchise cornerstone. And so with Travis Hunter, if he's the guy you think he is, you can't. There's no overpay for that.
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But why didn't Cleveland look at the Otani of the NFL and knowing that they needed to take away from this desean Watson situation and you get a, you get a makeover right away.
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I agree in theory, but I think they're looking at this roster. It's an aging roster that was built around the desean Watson thing working okay. And I think they have some self awareness that that's not going to be the case anymore, that the aging roster, some other guys, it's not ready to win now. So take the Jaguars pick, which is probably going to be a pretty good pick next year, and start building in a different way.
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Why not, why not trade Miles Garrett or why extend Miles?
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I would have. I probably would have. I mean, I. Listen, you're, you're putting yourself, you're doing something very dangerous now, which is putting yourself in the head of the Cleveland Browns and saying, let's make some good decisions. They haven't done that for 30 years. Okay, so it's really hard. Like the Dylan Gabriel picked to me was one of the dumbest of the entire draft. What are you doing at that point and why, you know, we can get into this thing. But, but why you would take Gabriel, who would have dropped a handful more rounds. He's a career backup. When you're looking for a starter. Are you now going to trade for Kirk Cousins? You have Joe Flacco in the room. None of this really makes any sense. It's like. And maybe this is just the product of ownership, Dan. It's like there's five different decision makers in Cleveland and they're all. They all get to make alternating decisions, and it's like they've never met before.
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Well, you can tell if I look at body language of coach and GM when they made, when they made the pick with Shador. That came from up above.
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Yeah.
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Because it almost felt like, oh my gosh, let's draft him and then let's trade up to draft him when you could have had him. I just. It was Brownsian. I mean, it was Browns. It was truly Brownsian there. But I do think it's a great place for sure. Door to go to.
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I agree.
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Because I think he'll play. I think he'll start a game this year.
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He's going to be instantly better than Dylan Gabriel. So that's the first hurdle to clear. Dylan Gabriel is not very good. Kevin Stefan can tell him where to go with the ball. We know that Chadur can be accurate. We know he can. I mean, my thing about Chadur, I didn't think he was top five level, but what I did think was if you put a lot of those prospects behind the Colorado offensive line last year, they wouldn't have looked as good as.
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But if I give them the receivers that Colorado had, you're going to look pretty good.
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At least one. Yes, I agree with that. You know, when I look at the shadow situation, I was texting people in the league in the fourth round and in the fifth round and I was saying, why don't you guys just take shadow? I'm talking about teams with good quarterbacks where it's not going to be a drama like, hey, this, this, this first round talent is dropping. This seems like value. And they said there were two problems. Number one, they didn't do any work on the guy because they didn't think this was going to happen. Right. So, like, if you're a team with a, a, a franchise starter already, you didn't even meet cheater, you don't have his phone number. I mean, apparently everybody has his phone number because of Jack's ulbricht. But you know, you just get into a situation where they, they'd be flying blind. So that, that was, that was part of the problem. But then the other problem is they just didn't want to disrupt their quarterback room. They don't know. I mean, there's a lot of ways to get sh in the fifth round or in the mid rounds without SportsCenter coming to your, coming to your camp on day one.
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Was this collusion?
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I don't think it was. I don't think it was. I think it starts with the most basic obvious thing which is there were only a handful of quarterback needy teams and they didn't think Shador was that good. I think that, I think it starts there and then it was a cascading series of effects. I do think that there's a lot of cowardice in the NFL where they just don't want distractions. And I think that is more powerful than any sort of whatever. I don't think there was exact collusion where they were staying away from him.
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He's Kevin Clark. He is host and analyst for Omaha Productions in ESPN and his must listen to podcast this is Football and I'm starting. You know, I was just trying to figure this out that Tom Brady, who's running the Raiders has been around Shador Sanders for a long time.
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Passed on him.
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Passed on him. And they could certainly use another quarterback in there. I know you extended Geno Smith. That was the one that stood out more than anything because Pittsburgh to me, you know, they take Will Howard and, and I like that pick. I think Will Howard can play in the NFL. But that really led me to believe they really are hoping that Aaron Rodgers is coming to town.
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He has to. He has to. I mean it sounds like, you know, Art Rooney, the owner a couple weeks ago in Palm beach at the owner's meeting said that that's the expectation there. I don't think Steelers ownership really talks out of turn. So I assume that there's indications that he's coming. They're screwed without him. Because I, I last week I heard some of the insiders say, well, you know, they, they're really comfortable with Mason Rudolph. Nobody is comfortable with Mason Rudolph. So I knew that that was a tell that that Aaron Rodgers is probably coming.
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How honest? When you know somebody's being honest with you, you know, you talk a lot of coach and GMs and whoever. Like I have, I have three different sources in the NFL and I've had them for probably 20 of 22, 23 years. But you know, I'm, I'm fed a lot of information sometimes and you know.
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I've been used before in the draft season. It's really hard because remember a scout might tell you this is the best guy in the draft, but he may not have the power to do it or you know, somebody from the I'm just giving an example right we're talking about ownership coming from above and saying you have to take shooter Sanders. If that was a scenario. Well, five minutes before that you could have gotten a text from someone with decision making power in Cleveland saying, now we're not going to do it. And then the owner does it. Right? So predicting what's happened in the draft is a fool's errand. It's really hard because of just the different things. And no one thought chadur was happening, by the way, like everybody's talking about, oh, people are saying, oh, why sell was coming with shadow.
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Greg Lott
You did.
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Unknown
Unless you said it was the biggest drop in history. Incoming. Then you didn't see it coming. Saying, oh, he might drop to the second round. We didn't drop to the second round. He dropped to the fifth round. So you didn't see it coming. Predicting what's actually going to happen on draft night outside of the the first pick. You know, I had Brian Callahan, the Titans coach, on my show a couple weeks ago and he started talking and he said, you know, I coached Joe Burrow when he was a rookie and I went back and I watched the zooms that we had because it was Covid. So they recorded it just to get a sense of what a rookie quarterback would be like. And so this is like March 15th. And I'm thinking, you know, Brian, you're probably not doing that if you're going to draft Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter. So I think you may have indicated where you're going. So there's tells like that, obviously, but I think, you know, you kind of have to just guess. I mean, you mentioned you have sources where you have years and years of goodwill built up. You know, they're not going to B.S. you. They know, you know that they're not going to use you. I think newer sources or sources with something. You know, the biggest thing always is when a team is trying to get rid of either a player or a coach and they're going to, I think it's a Larry David phrase voice. They're going to foist you. And they're trying to. Like I had, I won't say the coach, but I had a GM text me a couple of years ago about their defensive coordinator and he said, this DC would be amazing for the USC job. And I was like, no, he wouldn't. What are you talking about? And then a couple months later, the DC moved on. But it's like, I think they wanted me to put out so and so would be a perfect fit for usc. And then USC calls them and then their problem is solved. Whether they had a multi year contract or they just wanted a clean ending. Whatever it is, that's when you look at it and you go you have to have internal. You have to be your own harshest critic or else you end up sending a tweet saying so and so would be a great fit to be a Trojan.
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All right, give me the hot NFL team this year.
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I love Denver. I love Denver. And I know wait, that's.
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That's two loves like you love love Denver.
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I think Denver. When I look around I think about the Eagles and how one day we woke up and they had the best roster in football and they were undeniable and probably the super bowl favorites next year. Right. It's because you kept stacking talent. When I look at Denver I think in maybe next year we're they're going to be close to that level. I think this year they're going to be a double digit win team that I think probably will get super bowl buzz going into this season and they're probably a year away from that. But I love what Bo Nix is able to do with Sean Payton. I don't know what he would have been able to do behind Colorado's offensive line but that's not the question here. And then I think that the way they've built the trenches again Eagles, Eagles wise the offensive line is great. The defense keeps stacking talent. Baron was an awesome pick in the first round. RJ Harvey was a reach for ucf. But again Sean Payton knows what to do with running backs. He loves contact. He has speed. So I'm looking at this Denver team and I'm saying why can't this team compete right now? Now to answer my own question the Chargers are also going to be quite good. I loved their draft and I love Justin Herbert. I think Denver though is a half step ahead right now in that division with obviously the Chiefs being number one. I think all three of them have the chance to be really good this year.
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But Vegas is hot team the Chicago Bears. More money bet on the Bears in the last 24 hours.
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So I see that. I think that they answered so many of the so so Caleb Williams last year had the most unblocked pressures and sacks in the history of next gen stats. That's like a decade of data is that no one had gotten a guy in their face where literally the offensive line had no idea what they were doing. I look at him at it as maybe the dumbest plan in history because or modern football history. Caleb Williams had one flaw. He held onto the ball too long. So what do you do if you're the Bears? You give him one of the worst offensive lines in football. How is that going to work? How is that ever going to work? It didn't. It didn't. He got killed. And they were 64 sacks last year. And so they automate. They go out and they probably overpay for some guys, but that's okay. Again, over. We don't. We're not cosplaying GMs here. We just need this to work right. If we're the Bears. And so the front is settled, the defense is going to be better. I liked what they did. I thought Luther Burden was a really good value pick in round two. Addressing tight end, maybe you go to tight ends with Cole Comet. I see that. I just don't think they're an NFC contender. Okay. I see them being much better. I see Caleb Williams not getting sacked 64 times. I think they'll probably make the playoffs. I just don't see them in the same way the Broncos do, which is, I think in a couple of years, the Broncos are going to be super bowl contenders.
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Thanks for visiting. We appreciate it.
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I met you when I was 13 years old at the Tampa Super Bowl. It's great to be here again.
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Was I nice to you?
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You were very nice. You're going to lose respect for me. I was such a sports media dork that I was at a hotel. I figured it out that somehow you guys were all there. So I just hung out at the elevator bank meeting sports center anchors, and I got everybody's autograph. And the only one I can identify now is Eisen because he signed it with his catchphrase, which was, you got it. So it says Rich Eisen, Kevin, you got it.
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Okay, so there you go.
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So thank you for being nice to me.
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Do you want an autograph now?
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Yes, I do.
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Thank you, Kevin. The podcast is called this Is Football Podcast, host of Omaha Productions and the Mothership. We'll take a break. We will give you our best and worst of the weekend right after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app T Mobile.
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Clayton English
Good morning, Mr. Patrick. Hope you and the boys had a good weekend. Well, you know, I mean, it's nothing like sitting there slowly realizing that your team is going to be the first round upset of the NBA playoffs. That was fun and nice to watch. What was, what was funny is that I'm like sitting there, I'm like, man, this sucks and everything. And, and then I got to see the highlights of that Bill Belichick interview. And yeah, I'm like, more with you. It was more the rubber craft. It was like the awkwardness of that. Like, it's like, no, he says he fired you. You know, we agreed to step away mutually. And then I was like, that was the best. Worst. Yes, the Lakers. Thank you for that. But just a little off topic here. What do you boys make of these incoming rookies requesting to wear the numbers of retired hall of Famers? We see Cam Ward get the Warren Moon number. And just yesterday, Lawrence Taylor said no to Abdul Carter, who requested to wear 56. Is this like, you know, is it an homage to the legends or is it idiotic to think that, you know, the legend's gonna let you wear his number?
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Unknown
Okay, but. And thank you, guys. Cam Ward wore number one in college, didn't he? So he wanted to wear that number with Tennessee. And Warren Moon, who was played for the Houston Oilers, WAR number one, he's a Hall of Fame quarterback. And he, you know, signed off and said yes. Now, Abdul Carter, who wore 11 at Penn State, all of a sudden goes, I'd like to wear number 56. And of course, that's Lawrence Taylor. And Lawrence Taylor goes, no, get your own number. Yes.
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Marv, can Abdul Carter even wear 11 in New York? Phil Sims.
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I Don't think they retired it. Not a Hall of Famer, but, you know, a giant legend. I, you know, pick another number. Yeah, like, don't, don't go in there. You don't want more questions. You don't want all. This guy is a diva. Like, just go in. You're a rookie. Go in and blend in. Yes, Paul.
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Yeah.
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Lawrence Taylor said to the New York Post, get your own number and make it famous.
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Yes, I agree.
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You, like, you don't want to use someone else's number. You don't want to.
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No. I understand Cam Ward saying, can I wear number one? And he reaches out to Warren Moon or Warren Moon reaches out to him. He goes to the press conference. Great. It's a feel good moment and Tennessee could use a, you know, a few of those. Yes. Seaton.
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I kind of like the idea though, of being given the number and then it's like an honor. I understand wanting to make a number your own and then be like, ah, now forever, I'm gonna be the guy who made nine famous, you know, but there's also something about all of the people who wore nine before you, and then now you're the next in line of that. Like, it's an honor rather than.
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Yeah, but Lawrence Taylor, that jersey is retired. He's maybe the greatest defensive player of all time. 11's been retired. That Phil Sims is number. I don't know. I would just try to go in quietly. Yes. Marvin.
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Oh, yeah. Yes. Doc.
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Greg Lott
But if it's retired, why would you want that pressure, that target on your back where you're going to constantly be compared? This guy's got a lot of nerve picking a number of. One of the greatest of all time to be able to live up to that, even if you think you're honoring somebody.
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Unknown
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Unknown
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Clayton English
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Clayton English
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