Hour 2 - Sports Emmy Nomination , Scott Van Pelt

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 2: Sports Emmy Nomination & Scott Van Pelt

Podcast Information:

• Title: The Dan Patrick Show
• Host: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network
• Description: Dan Patrick's daily radio show features A-list guests from sports and entertainment, offering insights into pop culture and sports with a touch of humor.
• Episode: Hour 2 - Sports Emmy Nomination, Scott Van Pelt
• Release Date: April 9, 2025

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1. Introduction to Sports Emmy Nomination

Timestamp: [03:05] – [05:03]

The episode kicks off with George M. Johnson announcing the show's nomination for a Sports Emmy. The team expresses their excitement and gratitude, highlighting the significance of consistent quality.

• George M. Johnson: "Morale is high as we got nominated for a sports emmy yesterday."
• George M. Johnson: “This is the sixth time we've been nominated for sports Emmy.”

The conversation reveals that the nomination was somewhat surprising as the team initially thought their alphabetical listing might secure them the win. However, being top-listed is only indicative of their nomination status, not a guarantee of winning.

2. Team Efforts and Acknowledgments

Timestamp: [05:03] – [07:10]

The hosts discuss logistical preparations for attending the Emmy ceremony, including transportation arrangements.

• George M. Johnson: "Do we have the shuttle bus like we did the last time?"
• Tamara Judge: "We don't have 90 people here... we'll be okay with like 10, 11, 12 folks."

They emphasize the tight-knit nature of their team and the practical considerations of attending the event as a smaller group.

3. The Reality of Winning Emmys

Timestamp: [07:10] – [12:39]

George M. Johnson delves into the challenges of winning prestigious awards like the Sports Emmy, especially when competing against established figures like Scott Van Pelt, who has been nominated multiple times without a win.

• George M. Johnson: "We're a little show. We have 12 employees, including me... but one of these days before I retire, Scott..."
• Sam Mullins: "So basically what you're saying is we're not going to see another Don Shula again."

The hosts express a mix of determination and realism, acknowledging the high competition and the difficulty of securing a win despite their consistent efforts.

4. Guest Segment: Scott Van Pelt’s Perspective

Timestamp: [27:27] – [33:00]

The conversation shifts to welcoming Scott Van Pelt, a fellow Sports Emmy nominee, who shares his experiences and frustrations regarding the nomination process.

• Scott Van Pelt: "One of the things I think was unfair was when the voting is in, they already know who won."
• George M. Johnson: "Scott, we were doing our show every day during COVID, just let you know."

Scott discusses the often disheartening reality of being nominated multiple times without securing a win, contrasting it with the team's experience.

5. The Struggles of Consistent Excellence

Timestamp: [33:00] – [38:13]

The hosts and Scott engage in a candid discussion about the pressures of maintaining high standards and the emotional toll of repeated nominations without winning.

• George M. Johnson: "I've thought a lot about this when it came to Rory... but how do you feel like..."
• Scott Van Pelt: "This is interesting, by the way, to just us, no one else bitching about not winning an Emmy."

They explore the balance between striving for excellence and coping with the lack of formal recognition, emphasizing personal fulfillment over external accolades.

6. Comparing Sports Broadcasting Personalities

Timestamp: [38:13] – [42:34]

The dialogue transitions to comparing different sports broadcasters and their approaches to media interactions and public perception.

• George M. Johnson: "Who's got more scar tissue? Rory with what happened at Augusta or Jordan Spieth..."
• Scott Van Pelt: "Rory has the weight of knowing this represents the Holy Grail."

They analyze how high-profile figures handle pressure and media scrutiny, drawing parallels between their experiences and those of famed athletes.

7. Handling Emotional Moments on Air

Timestamp: [42:34] – [47:50]

George M. Johnson recounts a poignant moment when Jerry West passed away during a live broadcast, highlighting the emotional challenges of delivering unexpected news.

• George M. Johnson: "I know, but seeing him play in person in 1971... my dad died again when I saw the news."
• Tamara Judge: "Can't watch it again, but thank you."

The team reflects on maintaining professionalism while grappling with personal emotions during live segments.

8. Closing Remarks and Upcoming Events

Timestamp: [47:50] – [52:03]

The hosts wrap up the discussion by previewing upcoming events, including attending the NFL Draft in Green Bay and engaging with other sports personalities.

• George M. Johnson: "We will be there in Green Bay... Frank Caliendo is going to join us..."
• Sam Mullins: "Two weeks from today."

They express enthusiasm for future shows and the opportunity to connect with fans and sports figures in different venues.

9. Final Thoughts on Sports Broadcasting and Team Success

Timestamp: [52:03] – [56:59]

In the concluding segment, the team reiterates their commitment to quality broadcasting and the value of their dedicated team despite not having secured an Emmy win.

• George M. Johnson: "We're a little show... one of these days before I retire..."
• Sam Mullins: "Listen to GoBoy on the iHeartRadio app..."

They emphasize the importance of perseverance, teamwork, and the continuous pursuit of excellence in sports broadcasting.

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Notable Quotes:

• George M. Johnson at [03:05]: "Morale is high as we got nominated for a sports emmy yesterday."
• Sam Mullins at [10:21]: "It's different, because what Spieth has here is the knowledge that he gets to come back until he no longer wishes to because he's won."
• Scott Van Pelt at [32:21]: "We occupy a tricky space where you're interested in that human emotion. That's why I enjoy the show."
• George M. Johnson at [51:42]: "The studio started watching that last night. It is a great, great show."

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Conclusion:

This episode of The Dan Patrick Show centers around the team's Sports Emmy nomination, their experiences navigating the competitive landscape of sports broadcasting, and a heartfelt discussion with Scott Van Pelt about the challenges of consistent excellence without formal recognition. The hosts share personal anecdotes, reflect on their professional journeys, and express optimism for future endeavors, all while maintaining a sense of camaraderie and dedication to their craft.

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For more insights and detailed discussions, listen to the full episode on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Transcript

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[George M. Johnson]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio Hour 2 on this Wednesday, Dan and the Danette's Dan Patrick Show. Morale is high as we got nominated for a sports emmy yesterday. And we knew the nominations were coming out right as our show ended. And I walked over to the other side and Paulie goes, I got the results. I said, okay. He said, everybody, I'm going to get your honest reaction. So we had Mario from the back come out with his phone, and Paulie went through all of the nominations, and he did in reverse order. We found out because our show was listed at the top, that doesn't mean anything. We thought it did. It was alphabetical. We were like, man, we're at the top. We're going to win. But Paulie was reading off, pardon the interruption, Good morning football, MLB tonight, and all of a sudden, the Dan Patrick show. And it was great because, you know, it's nice to be nominated. That's what I always say, you know, we're not going to win. But I think being consistent, this is the sixth time we've been nominated for sports Emmy. Scott Van Pelt, who's been nominated, I think six times, maybe this is his seventh. He'll join us from Augusta coming up. But Mario did a wonderful job putting together our tape that you send in and you have people vote on it and got nominated. So that'll be in May, I think it's on a Tuesday night. Are we going to do the shuttle bus like we did the last time, where we all go in? You tell us, okay, how many tickets can I get?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, that's the thing. You got to get in early. But we don't have 90 people here. Like some other shows, we can get everybody in okay.

[George M. Johnson]

Because my wife was asking me, like, how do you cut off who gets to go and who doesn't?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't think we have that problem. I think we're gonna be okay with like 10, 11, 12 folks.

[George M. Johnson]

Okay, well, generally that's everybody in the building.

[Tamara Judge]

That is everybody.

[George M. Johnson]

Yeah, everybody. Okay. But we'll get like a Bus that we go down because we got to come back and then we got to work the next day. All right, well, I'll work on that. I'll get some Tuesday. You know what? How about we take the mako van down to the city, Bang it up. Yeah, if we bang it up, they'll fix it. Dents and dings.

[Tamara Judge]

Someone's getting banged up that night.

[George M. Johnson]

Oh, I know that. Probably Dylan. Yeah, the back room guys are going to. I know they'll get banged up. Yes, Todd.

[Sam Mullins]

Hors d'oeuvres and drinks on the bus. Someone comes around with your little pigs and blankets and stuff.

[George M. Johnson]

No, no, no, no. Because when we get there, they have hors d'oeuvres. Remember the last time we were there, we basically said to the. The woman, the waitress, can you just stay here? So she came out with mini hot dogs and, you know, crab cakes, pigs in a blanket.

[Sam Mullins]

I stood by the kitchen door, but the door almost couldn't open because I was waiting.

[George M. Johnson]

And then I remember we asked another wait, could you just stand here? Because I said, you know, there's 12 of us. And. And so we got them to just stand. They didn't work the room. They just stayed there by us. Yes. Paul.

[Tamara Judge]

The bacon wrapped scallops never made it past our crew. That's a one seed.

[George M. Johnson]

Yes. All righty. Well, congratulations again to all involved and very appreciative that we got nominated. Make sure you go to danpatrick.com everything is 50 off. We're clearing out everything for the spring. Spring clearance stat of the day brought to you by panini America. Official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show. And we will be in green Bay coming up in a couple of weeks. It's what, two weeks from yesterday? Two weeks from today. That will be there, right, Todd?

[Sam Mullins]

Two weeks from today.

[George M. Johnson]

All right. Will be at the bar. Homegren way. We'll be doing our show in front of a live studio audience and we hope you'll join us at the bar. A couple of weeks away and a couple blocks away from Lambeau field, Seaton poll question for hour two is going to be what?

[Unknown]

The Denver nuggets are nuts or doing the right thing.

[George M. Johnson]

Okay, I'd have to know more information before I signed off on that. This is.

[Unknown]

We prefer information, less polls.

[George M. Johnson]

Okay, my bad, my bad.

[Unknown]

Do just make a like scathing. Just react with no information whatsoever.

[George M. Johnson]

How could they do this?

[Unknown]

Are you crazy?

How could you do that? Or be like, hey, look, I like the move.

[George M. Johnson]

Okay? My lifeline is joker. Can I ask joker if he likes this because if he does that, I'm okay with it. If he doesn't, then I'm not okay with this. Here's something. Of the head coaches who have led their teams to title since 2015, only two are still with their respective franchises. Steve Kerr and Celtics head coach Joe Missoula. So Kerr has four titles, and Missoula won it all last season. Beyond Michael Malone, you had Mike Budenholzer in Milwaukee. He was let go summer of 2023, two years removed from winning it all in 2021. Frank Vogel. He helped the Lakers win in the bubble that was 2019, 2020. He was let go in 2022. Nick Nurse. He was let go four years after guiding the Raptors to their title. Ty Lue got the Cavaliers to three straight NBA Finals, including the 2016 championship. Fired just six games into the 2018, 2019 season. Wow, that's an ominous stat there. You're. You're winning, and that's when the problems start. When you think about it, everybody wants credit. You want. You got players who are role players. They want to get paid. They're going to go elsewhere to get a, you know, a bigger salary. You're trying to keep everybody happy. Now, all of a sudden, there's a bullseye on you. Now all of a sudden the bar is raised so high, and then all of a sudden it's, what have you done for me lately? I don't you think Nick Nurse should have been the head coach of the Raptors until he didn't want to be the head coach of the Raptors? They won. Yes.

[Unknown]

Well, that's the thing.

Like, you know, winning isn't easy, right? And that. I mean that in like, multiple different ways, like getting to the top and winning a ring isn't easy. And then as soon as you do that, everything that follows after isn't easy. It's hard. You know, everybody wants to take credit. Is it the MVP player? Is it the coach? Is it the management? Is it the owner who's like, yeah, I put all of these people in place. I'm actually the guy who did it all, and I get no credit for anything.

[George M. Johnson]

Well, look at Jerry Jones with, you win, you win, you win. We're winning because of me, not him. I'm going to fire him. I'll show you that we can win without him. And then all of a sudden, you don't win. Yeah, you win.

[Unknown]

And all of a sudden your GM just got hired away from someplace else for three times the money. And then your bench players are Also getting three times the money you were paying them. And then, you know.

[George M. Johnson]

Yeah, it's Marvin.

[Sam Mullins]

So basically what you're saying is we're not going to see another Don Shula again.

[Unknown]

He.

[Sam Mullins]

He won a Super bowl in the 70s.

[George M. Johnson]

Yeah.

[Sam Mullins]

And coach until maybe like 1995.

[George M. Johnson]

Yeah. But Mike Tomlin's kept his job. He's stable organization. Harbaugh, John Harbaugh, him and Tomlin, very similar. They haven't won in a while.

[Sam Mullins]

Stable organizations.

[George M. Johnson]

But it's hard to win. Really. It's hard to win. And then when you win, that's when the problems start. And it's weird to say that, but that's true. Yes. Paulie.

[Tamara Judge]

I think the great example in the NBA is Eric Spoelstra. He's been there. I got him there. Since 2008, they've won two finals. They bend a four or they've been to five finals. He gets them in position. They're always relevant, they're always competitive. And I'm sure there's been times they've said we could move on from Spoelstra, but they're always good and they get. He gives them a chance to compete.

[George M. Johnson]

I think if LeBron had stayed in Miami, I don't think Eric Spoelstrek keeps that job. I mean, look at the number of coaches LeBron has had in his career. Ten, maybe, maybe an interim head coach in there as well. You know, you see some of these. Now that's a stable franchise. The Heat, Pat Riley. And Spolster is a Hall of Fame head coach. But we've seen, you know, these guys get kicked to the curb. You know, Doc Rivers kick to the curb. Now they get hired again. But, you know, it's hard to hold onto your job in the NBA for more than three years. That's. That's the average is just under three years job tenure. Saturday, the Premier league run in is live on NBC. And Peacock. It's the London showdown. Arsenal against Brentford. It's the Premier League run in Saturday live on NBC. And Peacock. All right, so those are the headlines. The masters par three contest today. We'll talk to Scott Van Pelt. He'll join us coming up. And the home stretch of the NBA, by the way. Lakers and the Mavs in Dallas tonight. The Lakers are favored by four. DraftKings just gave me the over under for Luka Doncic back in Dallas tonight. Paul, I'm going to start with you. The over under for Luca points tonight.

[Tamara Judge]

A lot of pressure. I'm going to go 31 and a half.

[George M. Johnson]

All right.

[Sam Mullins]

Todd, 27 and a half. Marvin, 29 and a half.

[Unknown]

Se, 28 and a half.

[George M. Johnson]

30 and a half. Dang. 30 and a half. Doesn't that feel like you want to go over that? He's going to put up 40 on him in the first half. Yeah. LeBron James over under tonight. Marvin, I'll start with you.

[Sam Mullins]

24 and a half.

[Unknown]

Bloop.

[George M. Johnson]

Wow.

[Sam Mullins]

Give us a chance.

[George M. Johnson]

You normally go first, Todd.

[Sam Mullins]

No, look, I did pay off for me. Went to Marvin. Nailed it.

[George M. Johnson]

Right. Nuggets at the Kings tonight.

[Sam Mullins]

26. Oh, never.

[George M. Johnson]

The Nuggets are favored by four over. Under. Joker. I don't know why I'm talking like this.

[Tamara Judge]

Game show voice.

[George M. Johnson]

Yes.

[Unknown]

Seaton over under 17 and a half.

[George M. Johnson]

Marvin.

[Sam Mullins]

26 and a half.

[Tamara Judge]

25 and a half.

[Sam Mullins]

Todd, 29 and a half.

[George M. Johnson]

31 and 31 and a half. 31 and a half. Wow.

[Sam Mullins]

What's up with the Bob Ross voice?

[George M. Johnson]

Three quarters. Who's Bob Ross?

[Sam Mullins]

Yeah.

[George M. Johnson]

Pretty birds.

[Sam Mullins]

Van Dyke Brown.

[Tamara Judge]

Happy little trees.

[Sam Mullins]

You're like, how many for Nicola Jokic?

[George M. Johnson]

How many for. What a boss. Nicole Jokic. What a. I saw a picture of Bob Ross before he had his afro. It's like I didn't even recognize him. You're like, oh, that. That's Bob Ross. I don't think I ever watched an episode. Was that on pbs? Yes, Public broadcasting.

[Tamara Judge]

A lot of downtime in college watching Bob Ross.

[George M. Johnson]

I. I think I'd have to be a pothead that I would just sit around and watch something like that. Hey, hey, what are you doing? I had a roommate in college, and he'd wake and bake, and I'd be like, golly, I don't know how you do it, Stan. And he said, I need to Johnny way I can get up in the morning. So that put me back in bed in the morning. A couple of phone calls in here. Bill in Texas. Hi, Bill. What's on your mind today? ADP. Long time. Long time. Augusta8280. I have a comparison for you. McLovin strikes me as the Alex Smith type. Kind of a system back row guy.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Kind of keeping to his own. Whereas. Whereas Marv is more Patrick Mahomes dynamic game changer.

[George M. Johnson]

Gonna take you to the promised land. Wow. Wow. Thank you, Bill. We're not gonna be smirch McLovin here now. We can, but I would. McLovin gave 12 years. 12 years driving an hour and a half to two hours every single morning and never complained. And he. He had a great identity. On this show, but he wanted to be closer to home with his young daughters, and he got an opportunity. And Marvin was great. Marvin was here. He worked in the back. He helped with the build of this studio. That's how we hired Marvin. He was just running cables and doing whatever needed to be done, working 10, 12 hours a day. And I think it was Seaton because I, oh, my God. How would we replace McLovin? And Seaton goes, well, why don't we just put Marvin in and see how he does now? I always had fun with Marvin, and I knew he knew sports. I just didn't think that Marvin was ready for something like that because it's. It's one thing to be funny and, you know, answer sports questions behind the scenes. Now all of a sudden you got a camera on you. Now all of a sudden you're replacing McLovin. And you've done an unbelievable job with that. So that's why sometimes that person who understood the show was the right person for the show. But McLovin, he's always have a soft spot in my heart for all the great things that he did. Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

Martin, can you resay that at the.

[Sam Mullins]

Emmys when we win? That'd be lovely.

[George M. Johnson]

No, we don't have time for that. Who's our.

[Sam Mullins]

Who's going to be our speaker if we win?

[George M. Johnson]

All of us. Okay. We've rehearsed this every single year that we get nominated. I say, and the winner is the Dan Patrick show. And then we all go up and then I'll say, I, hey, I'd like to thank. Everybody wants to have a chance to say something, but we know we can't because, you know, we don't have the time. So everybody is going to speak at the same time. And then I'll go, 1, 2, 3. I just want to say, and my wife, my kids couldn't have done it without Marvin. Marvin's the best. And screw McLovin.

[Tamara Judge]

We did together.

[George M. Johnson]

And then that'll be it. Then we take the hardware and then we get the shorties, and then we go get some beers and then we have some back to the mako van. Yeah, that's what we do. The make out mako van. Oh, oh, Better get moo.

[Sam Mullins]

Better get a lawyer.

[George M. Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Oh. 12 guys in a van headed back to the home office. Yeah, I'll sleep. I'll sleep here that night, but, yeah, that'll be exciting. Yeah. Be nice to get dressed up. Although I'm terrible when I go to those shows, though. I can't sit in my chair. I end up walking around the building.

[Unknown]

Like, literally the building, not just the floor that the event is on. We spent more time in the elevator going up and down to a restaurant that was downstairs during the ceremony.

Then.

[George M. Johnson]

Yeah, like, what.

[Unknown]

What event are we. We're 46th in line. Okay, let's go downstairs and get some drinks.

[George M. Johnson]

And then I walk into a restaurant. Pat Sajak's there with his wife. And then I sit down, and then he starts eating food off my plate. And we're talking about the sports Emmy. And, you know, I'm just here to get my haircut. Yeah. He came into New York.

[Unknown]

Like, you live in North Carolina? No, no, just come up here for.

[George M. Johnson]

He lives in Maryland.

[Unknown]

Oh, Maryland.

[George M. Johnson]

Yes. And he. And he goes. I said, what are you doing here? He goes, oh, I came in to get my haircut. Like, okay, all right. Baller. Yes. Todd, did you ever go up to.

[Sam Mullins]

Pat Sage and say, ah.

[George M. Johnson]

He was.

[Sam Mullins]

The real Fortune house. You think that joke's been used on him?

[Unknown]

He said, what are you, a pirate?

[Sam Mullins]

Two Rs, Vanna.

[George M. Johnson]

How long you been sitting on that one?

[Sam Mullins]

A little while. Let's wait to get that in.

[George M. Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sam Mullins]

By the way, Is this the fifth award that's gonna be announced? The 39th award. That's the other thing, too. The whole. Is it early?

[George M. Johnson]

Well, we find out, you see, in. That'll tell you where. Where you. You know, you fit in. So you can plan accordingly. I'd rather just get it out of the way. Right. Right away and just say, best, you know, daily studio show is. Pardon the interruption. I'll go, damn it. And then we leave. Yes.

[Sam Mullins]

It's a no lose situation. If you win, you can kind of hang out there with your. With your.

[George M. Johnson]

No, no, it's a lose situation.

[Sam Mullins]

Yeah, no, but, like, if you win, then you. You get to enjoy the rest of the night knowing you've already won and you're holding up your trophy. If you lose, then you get to leave early. If you. If they were announcing it early. So it's best to be one of the first ones.

[George M. Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

See, you know what I think is unfair about it? So, like, the voting is in.

[George M. Johnson]

Yeah. Everybody.

[Unknown]

They already know who won.

[George M. Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

You could just announce the winners and invite those people to a ceremony. You don't have to do this whole.

[George M. Johnson]

This whole thing. No, no, no, no.

[Unknown]

5% of the people win, and the other 95 losers get to go walk around and watch those 5 percenters be happy.

[George M. Johnson]

No, I want the drama. I want the pain. I do. And the winner is. Pardon the interruption. God, that hurt.

[Unknown]

That's going to be B.S. you're saying it.

[George M. Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

MLB Central.

[George M. Johnson]

What? No, no, no, no. Let's don't despair.

[Unknown]

Let's just start it right now. Let's do nothing but disparage. No two months.

[George M. Johnson]

This will be on our tape next year. Wall to wall this year. RIP everybody and everything. Let me take a break. Scott Van Pelt, who I don't think has won a sports Emmy. I think he's 0 for 6. He'll join us from. I don't think I should lead with that. Should I pull the band aid? Okay. All right. We'll take a break. Back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app, search FSR to listen live. Hey, Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis. And together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything, life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture, stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right?

[Unknown]

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[George M. Johnson]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

What's up, everyone? It's Greg Rosenthal and I'm teaming up with the king of spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that we're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season. From DJs mock drafts to my top one on one, free agents will have it covered for you with all new episodes every Thursday keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL Draft. Listen to 40s and free agents on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm Israel Gutierrez and I'm hosting a new podcast, Dub Dynasty. The story of how the Golden State warriors have dominated the NBA for over a decade.

[George M. Johnson]

The Golden State warriors once again are NBA champions.

[Tamara Judge]

From the building of the corps that included Klay Thompson and Draymond Green to one of the boldest coaching decisions in the history of the sport, I just.

[Sam Mullins]

Felt like the biggest thing was to.

[George M. Johnson]

Earn the trust of the players and let the players know that we were here to try to help them take the next step, not tear anything down.

[Tamara Judge]

Today, the warriors dynasty remains alive in large part because of a scrawny 6 foot 2 hooper who everyone seems to love.

[George M. Johnson]

For what Steph has done for the game. He's certainly on that, like Mount Rushmore for guys that have changed it, come.

[Tamara Judge]

Revisit this magical warriors ride. This is Dub Dynasty.

[Unknown]

The Dubs dynasty is still very much alive.

[Tamara Judge]

Listen to Dub Dynasty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Julie Stewart Banks]

It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League, and I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson.

[Sam Mullins]

I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have plenty to say, and not just about hockey.

[Julie Stewart Banks]

Believe me, he does. Energy Line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast and it's going to be, well, it's going to be quite the ride. We're officially linemates, Nate. We're the Energy Line.

[Sam Mullins]

We'll have plenty of folks join us, current players, some of my former teammates, hall of Famers, and wait till you see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex.

[Julie Stewart Banks]

Okay, we'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey and try to do it. Energy Lines are so supposed to do provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate?

[Sam Mullins]

I'm vibing, Julie. I'm ready to roll.

[Julie Stewart Banks]

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[George M. Johnson]

On November 5, 2018 at 6:33am, a.

[Sam Mullins]

Red Volkswagen Golf was found abandoned in.

[George M. Johnson]

A ditch out in Sleep Hole Valley.

[Sam Mullins]

The driver's seat door was open. No traces of footsteps leaving the vehicle. No belongings were found except for a cassette tape lodged in the player on that tape were 10 vile.

[George M. Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Sam Mullins]

Gr.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God.

[Sam Mullins]

Horrific stories that to this day have.

[George M. Johnson]

Been kept restricted from the public until now.

[Sam Mullins]

You feeling this too? A horror anthology podcast.

[George M. Johnson]

Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Unknown]

My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention. This is a story about radical nuns.

[Tamara Judge]

In combat boots and wild haired pries trading blows with J. Edgar Hoover in a hell bent effort to sabotage a war.

[George M. Johnson]

J. Edgar Hoover was furious somebody violated the FBI and he wanted to bring.

[Tamara Judge]

The Catholic left to its knees. The FBI went around to all their neighbors and said to them, do you think these people are good Americans? It's got heists, tragedy, a trial of the century, and the God damnedest love.

[Unknown]

Story you've ever heard.

[George M. Johnson]

I picked up the phone and my.

[Tamara Judge]

Thought was, this is the most important phone call I'll ever make in my life.

[Unknown]

I couldn't believe it.

[George M. Johnson]

I mean, Brendan, it was divine intervention.

[Tamara Judge]

Listen to divine intervention on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[George M. Johnson]

Scott Van Pelt anchors ESPN's Midnight Sports Center. He's got his own podcast. He does Monday night countdown. He's on the road. He'll be calling the Masters par three contest today. That'll be noon to four Eastern. And then live coverage, first and second round of the Masters. A tradition unlike any other. But before we get to that, Scotty, we're both nominated. Our show, you as a host. We're over five, you're oh for eight. So outstanding studio host, zero for eight.

[Unknown]

Yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot of times to sit there until the very end. It's a long evening, there's no food. The bitterness builds. And then they say, Ernie Johnson. Yeah, Or Mike Tirico. And there have been years where Ernie's not nominated and then Mike wins. And then there's years when Mike's not nominated and then Ernie wins. And this year, Dan, they're both nominated. So we're gonna just do the math and just put that nine in the right hand column, pal.

[George M. Johnson]

Well, when I was nominated for studio host, Bob Costas was always there.

[Unknown]

That was a tough one. I got nominated against him a couple of times early on. I didn't. I just looked at that as sort of being like Abilene Christian against Texas. You know, I was probably getting 38.

[George M. Johnson]

And a half on that.

[Unknown]

On that board.

[George M. Johnson]

Well, I always. I was. I was Patrick Ewing in the Jordan era. I just. I Wasn't gonna win. I was proud of myself, and I would try to put up a good fight, but I would. I. I knew I was going to lose. I just didn't know in how many games.

[Unknown]

Here's the win for me. I'm at Augusta National. I'm going to have lunch with the. There's a member here that I've become friendly with, and we. We seem to eat lunch on the day that the nominations come out, and it's become kind of this running joke. He's like, did you get the notification? And yesterday I said, you know what? I. I did. And so I'm going to look at it as a win because I ate a grilled cheese and bacon sandwich at Augusta national on a perfectly sunny day at the Masters. Ernie Johnson didn't do that. Mike Tirico might have. Actually, Mike, I believe is here somewhere. But, hey, listen. I mean, it's.

[George M. Johnson]

It's.

[Unknown]

Listen, we could joke, and of course, I know you guys want to win, and you should. I hope you do someday, because your show's been awesome for a long time. Of course you want to hear your name, but you make the cut. You make the cut. Not. It's. There's a hell of a lot of people that do what we do. So you do have to give yourself a little grace and say, that's pretty cool. Nice to see your name. And. And then you go to New York, and then you lose.

[George M. Johnson]

Yeah. But I say this to the Danettes, and they haven't won before, but I say it. You just want to be relevant. You want to be nominated, you want to stay in the game. That's all. And. And we're a little show. We have 12 employees, including me. So you're going against big boys here. But that's why I said, you know what? One of these days. One of these days that. Before I retire, and I don't want to get a posthumous sports Emmy, Scott. So, you know, if you want to accept it for me, but I. I'd rather not get one where they go, oh, we feel sorry for him.

[Unknown]

He had a good run. And then you get a lifetime achievement.

[George M. Johnson]

Yeah, I don't want that either. I don't want that.

[Unknown]

No lifetime. All right, so Academy, take notes. No lifetime.

[George M. Johnson]

Yeah, we're going to break down Scott's chances. All right, Paulie.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, we're talking to Vegas. Scotty, you're, well deserving this, of course, needless to say, but you're up against Tirico, Kate Scott of cbs, Ernie Johnson, and Scott Hansen. Scott, Hansen's the wild card. New guy.

[Unknown]

A little quad box here. Witching hour.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Fresh face. Scott is entering, though, the Paul Newman Color Money episode, though, where we've overlooked him. This is his turn.

[Unknown]

Paul, can I. If I may interject. Years ago, the COVID year, I believe you had me as a lock because of the work we did on.

[George M. Johnson]

Yes.

[Unknown]

That was the one year I got real bitter because I'm like, there was. Yeah, we created content out of nothing. No one was else. No one else was doing television, and we still didn't win. And if that wasn't enough, I just. That was the one year I think I got better. I was like, well, the hell with it. There's just. It's nothing I could do. So. Color of money, maybe. I don't know. I don't know.

[George M. Johnson]

Scott, we were doing our show every day during COVID Just let you know.

[Unknown]

Thanks, pal.

[George M. Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Did you. Were you nominated?

[George M. Johnson]

Probably. So we lost. Yeah.

[Unknown]

Did Paul say you were a lock? Because Paul went on your show and said I was a lot.

[George M. Johnson]

No, I. The only time I ever felt angry was when I had a guy who voted and he said, saw your tape. You're gonna win this thing. And I go. So I'm there with my wife, and. God dang it, I. I wanted to go Larry Bird, where I get up and just put the finger up. I just won. And. And they get. And the winner is. And I. I went to get up. My wife grabs my arm as I get ready to get up, and they go. And the winner is Bob Costas. And then I thought, well, I'm almost up. Do I stand and give him. Because I was kind of caught in between. That's the only one where I go, you gotta be kidding me. You know?

[Unknown]

Yeah. I mean, it's you. We occupy a tricky, tricky space where you. You kind of. What you're saying is you feel like you deserve to win is what I'm hearing.

[George M. Johnson]

That's true. I did. I did. And I feel like we deserve to win this year.

[Unknown]

Good.

[George M. Johnson]

I do say it.

[Unknown]

Speaking into existence. I mean, there's nights I'm driving home, I'm like, what other idiots out there doing this by themselves every night at midnight? Like, no one. Who else is doing this? But then you're like, you know what? You're doing that. Because these guys have elevated beyond the need to do that. You're just some grinder out there. Keep your head down. Keep working.

[George M. Johnson]

Yeah, But, Scott, for 15 years, I was working second shift again.

[Unknown]

I relate to you, okay? I Know this. I know this. I'm not saying I'm. I'm not saying my pain's worse than your pain, Dan. We're not doing pain comparison here.

[George M. Johnson]

Okay?

[Unknown]

This is interesting, by the way, to just us, no one else bitching about not winning an Emmy.

[George M. Johnson]

You know, the. It's weird. We're talking to the sports Emmy nominated Scott Van Pelt, who has no chance of winning. The number of people who have called in to complain about Brian Harmon taking forever to hit his shot. Okay, what are. You know, baseball's had a pitch clock forever, and then they finally go, oh, we got a pitch clock. Let's use it. Golf, you know, they can put you on the clock, but, you know, do we need a shot clock?

[Unknown]

I think I was part of the TGL launch this year, which, for those that didn't see the Tomorrow Golf League, Tiger and Rory behind it. It's Sofi center in Palm Beach Gardens, indoor, sort of just an enormous simulator. It was really. I thought it was a cool thing. It was fun. They have a clock. You see it. And the one person that got a violation, I believe there was only one, and it was Tiger, which. That's how you know it's real. They're gonna. If they're gonna call a violation on him, then it's a real thing. But what you're dealing with is a big giant clock that you can see that's right there. And when it goes off, there's really nothing to do but say, well, that's a penalty. In golf, it's outdoors. Do you have a rules official with each group? It's a bit vague. And Harmon is a good dude who. I don't know if you've had him on the show, but he's like, he's a. He's a Georgia guy, he's a huge sports fan, and he knows that it takes too long, and he doesn't want to take that long. It's just. He's kind of got these ticks that he is pre shot that he's working through. But the bottom line is, yeah, golf would benefit greatly if there were sort of a clock that we knew when it started. And when it hit zero, you get a warning and then you get a penalty. Because the game, that. The game does take a long time to get moving.

[George M. Johnson]

Is there an innovation on the Live Tour that you could see the PGA Tour eventually adopting.

[Unknown]

Taking money from the Saudi Fund that. Taking the money, taking the forbidden money. They said, no, you can't take that money. Wait, how much? That's the one. But I mean in terms of just sort of like the shorts and the rock and roll and whatever else. Not, not necessarily. I, I and that feels hopefully like we're felt like the roads were going to, were divergent now it feels like they're going to intersect at some point because you just. The game benefits when Rahman, DeChambeau and Koepka etc are playing with all the other guys on the PGA Tour. You know, we see it this week which is good but that's, that's the one in. The innovation is just figure it out and let's, let's get back together.

[George M. Johnson]

But they have graphics now. They have too many graphics on the screen.

[Unknown]

It's kind of like pti, but an ex. A PTI times a billion. Right. Like there's the, the graphic presentation. I get what they're going for but I'm with you. I think there's, there's probably a sweet spot in the middle where it doesn't need to be that many but maybe, maybe more than you typically have. I don't know. We, I mean I've done golf for 30 something years. It's not that long whatever it is. So there's only so much you can do with it. Right. It's, it's going to take a while. You could show the wind direction, you could show the slope on the green. But I don't know, I don't know what there's, I don't know if there's a first down line right. Like we got in football. People want shot tracer if they don't see which direction is. I give up. Where's the, where's the arrow on the friggin screen?

[George M. Johnson]

Historically, how good is Scottie Scheffler already.

[Unknown]

On the short list because of what he's demonstrated here? That, that and his ability to stack monster tournaments.

[George M. Johnson]

Does he want to be a superstar? Does he. Well, maybe not a superstar. Does he want to be a star?

[Unknown]

No, no. That, and that's his, that's his secret sauce, Dan, I think is that he has maintained a similar humility to before everyone knew his name. And he keeps focusing on doing the same stuff. He's a, he's a simple, simple sounds like a knock. It's not. It's a compliment. He's maintained a simple approach. He's really good at what he's really good at and that's pretty much everything. And he has no desire to go to seek it. You know. Now I do think that the, the one thing you got to learn to live with And I feel like you've seen him get a little bit more prickly with the media this year. I think he just doesn't suffer the nonsense. Well. And you gotta just somehow trick yourself the way Tiger did that. I'm going to be asked a lot of the same stuff. A lot of it's probably going to feel mundane and dumb. And I've answered this before, but you kind of have to just sort of do it again like you haven't done it before. That'll be the. That'll be the interesting thing. Just learning to live with the day to day requests that come of that guy. When you're. That guy, when he's looking around going, this isn't that big a deal, you know, but that's. That that's really his secret sauce. I truly believe that is that he is a superstar without. With none of the trappings.

[George M. Johnson]

But okay, you talking about answering the questions over and over, you got Colin Morikawa who says, you know, it's not our obligation to talk to the media. Rory just echoed the same sentence like, where's this coming from? That these guys don't feel, I don't want to say indebted, but in partnership with the media covering their sport.

[Unknown]

I think Colin explained what happened at Bay Hill where he came out and was ready for the questions or ready for the media person to be there and no one was there. And then he went and signed for the folks that were there, autographs and there was. And then by the time the person got there, he's like, look, I was here and I'm done. And I. I think there's a fine line. I thought a lot about this when it came to Rory last year. I said it. I believe you did as well. About, about Pinehurst and I. Greg talked after it completely imploded here at Augusta. You remember it standing in the trees at night down there. And he answered the questions and he smiled. He said, the sun will come up tomorrow, essentially. And I think I wanted to know in that moment what happened. But then there's a human part of me where I think there's a little grace to be extended here. If there were the NBA Finals, which you covered so well for so many years, there's that little grace period where they're in the locker room before they're going to come out. And sometimes you got to wait for LeBron or Michael back in the day for a while. But if there was that cooling off period where we waited and it wasn't just, you've got to go right on NBC and tell us you missed a two foot putt and you. And you lost the US Open. How do you feel like, you know, I'm saying I feel like if there were a little bit of grace, a little bit of a buffer zone which exists in the other sports, that might be beneficial. Does that make sense at all to you?

[George M. Johnson]

You. Well, Calvin Sampson waited an hour before he met with the media, I think, after losing the national title game.

[Unknown]

And that's based on what happened to his team on Monday night. That feels entirely reasonable to me, because if he were asked to speak, walking off the floor, I can't imagine what he could have even uttered. I don't know how you could have gotten a word out after what happened, you know what I'm saying? And I. Look, you and I are on the same lane here on the other side of the rope, where I'm interested in that human emotion. That's why I enjoy the show. I get to do. I get to talk to these people in the moments after high achievement, and you get to try to get the. The feelings out of them. But I'm talking the winners. You know what I mean? I don't. I don't have the person that just lost in gutting fashion on the show. And, like, how are you right now?

[George M. Johnson]

You have to have that hushed hush tone.

[Unknown]

You got to take that. Very effective. Well, I mean, you want to be. Hey, how's it going? You doing all right? Yeah, I mean, but I really do. I've thought a lot about this, particularly with Rory, because I think he is often as good as anyone in this sport and giving you the good stuff. And so how do we find the room to give them a little bit of time to allow them to decompress? And if they want to go out and slam the trunk and say, I got nothing for you, we'll catch up down the road? That's where I think it's fair to say if we gave you the space, it wasn't unreasonable to ask where you were.

[George M. Johnson]

Who's got more scar tissue? Rory with what happened at Augusta or Jordan Spieth, what happened at the 12th when he lost to Danny Willett that year.

[Unknown]

It's different, because what Spieth has here is the knowledge that he gets to come back until he no longer wishes to because he's won. And what Rory has is the weight of knowing that this rec. This represents the Holy Grail. This represents the conclusion of the slam. So I think there's. I think there's more weight on the shoulders of Rory, I don't think he's. I don't think he's got the same. Like when you get to 12 in your speed, I don't know how you ever forget what happened in that moment. Now you could say, well, Rory had the same thing happen on 10. One wasn't as gory. You know what I mean? But that's an interesting one. I just think for speed, like, he's. He's unencumbered here of thinking, well, I gotta. I gotta figure out how to win, because I want to come back forever. You know, Greg Norman, Dan was going to win here, had many chances. And then the sand and the hourglass runs out, and that's it. You don't get to come back anymore. And that's the thing about this place is the people that have had their moments and been so close, it's the kind of place you want to come back to forever. So I think the weight on Rory's shoulders is clearly heavier. I think that the damage that was done on 12, only Jordan knows that.

[George M. Johnson]

Great to talk to you. This is the year we celebrate together. Yeah.

[Unknown]

It's not me.

[George M. Johnson]

Let's go. Come on.

[Unknown]

If it's not me. I wanted. I want it to be you, but really, what I mean is, I want it to be.

[George M. Johnson]

I know.

[Unknown]

Last year. Last year. I mean, probably have to go. Just tell me to shut up. But Tracy Wilson and I were talking because we were both in the same boat. I think she was over nine or zero for eight, where, like, I want it to be you. And then she won. And I'm like, oh, that's awesome.

[George M. Johnson]

It's Tracy.

[Unknown]

And then in my brain, I'm like, there's no way we're both going to win. And she just did. So I really want it to be.

[George M. Johnson]

Me, Dan, not you, Scott Van Pelt. Thank you, Scotty.

[Unknown]

Always my man. Be well.

[George M. Johnson]

The par three contest, it'll be today at noon, noon to 4 Eastern, on the Mothership. We'll take a break, back after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio Apple.

[Greg Rosenthal]

What's up, everyone? It's Greg Rosenthal, and I'm teaming up with the King of Spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that we're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season. From DJs, mock drafts to my top 101, free agents will have it covered for you with all new episodes every Thursday, keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL Draft. Listen to 40s and free agents on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Julie Stewart Banks]

It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League, and I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson.

[Sam Mullins]

I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have plenty to say, and not just about hockey.

[Julie Stewart Banks]

Believe me, he does. Energy Line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast and it's gonna be, well, it's going to be quite the ride. We're officially line mates, Nate. We're the energy line.

[Sam Mullins]

We'll have plenty of folks join us, Current players, some of my former teammates, hall of Famers, and wait till you see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex.

[Julie Stewart Banks]

Okay. We'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey and try to do what energy lines are supposed to do. Provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate?

[Sam Mullins]

I'm vibing Julie. I'm ready to roll.

[Julie Stewart Banks]

Listen to EnergyLine with Nate and JSB on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm Israel Gutierrez and I'm hosting a new podcast, Dub Dynasty. The story of how the Golden State warriors have dominated the NBA for over a decade.

[George M. Johnson]

The Golden State warriors once again are NBA champions.

[Tamara Judge]

From the building of the core that included Klay Thompson and Draymond Green to one of the boldest coaching decisions in the history of the sport.

[Sam Mullins]

I just felt like the biggest thing.

[George M. Johnson]

Was to earn the trust of the players and let the players know that we were here to try to help them take the next step, not tear anything down.

[Tamara Judge]

Today, the warriors dynasty remains alive in large part because of a scrawny 6 foot 2 hooper who everyone seems to.

[George M. Johnson]

Love for what Steph has done for the game. He's certainly on that, like Mount Rushmore for guys that have changed it.

[Tamara Judge]

Come revisit this magical warriors ride. This is Dove Dynasty.

[Unknown]

The Dubs dynasty is still very much alive.

[Tamara Judge]

Listen to Dub Dynasty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[George M. Johnson]

On November 5, 2018 at 6:33am, a.

[Sam Mullins]

Red Volkswagen Golf was found abandoned in.

[George M. Johnson]

A ditch out in Sleep Hole Valley.

[Sam Mullins]

The driver's seat door was open, no traces of footsteps leaving the vehicle.

[George M. Johnson]

No belongings were found except for a cassette tape lodged in the player.

[Sam Mullins]

On that tape were 10 vile. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Grotesque mask.

[George M. Johnson]

Oh, my God.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God.

[Sam Mullins]

Horrific stories that to this day have.

[George M. Johnson]

Been kept restricted from the public until now.

[Sam Mullins]

You feeling this too? A horror anthology podcast.

[George M. Johnson]

Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia. I'm excited to introduce a brand new season of my podcast, Math and Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing. I'm having conversations with some interesting folks across a wide range of industries to hear how they reach the top of their fields and the lessons they learned along the way that everyone can use. I'll be joined by innovative leaders like chairman and CEO of Health Beauty, Tarang Amin.

[Tamara Judge]

The way I approach risk is constantly try things and actually make it okay to fail.

[George M. Johnson]

I'm sitting down with legendary singer, songwriter and philanthropist Jewel.

[Mary Kay McBrayer]

I wanted a way to do something.

[Unknown]

That I loved for the rest of my life.

[George M. Johnson]

We're also hearing how leaders brought their businesses out of unprecedented times, like Stephane Bonsell, CEO of Moderna. It becomes a human decision to decide to throw by the window your business business strategy and to do what you think is the right thing for the world. Join me as we uncover innovations in data and analytics, the math, and the ever important creative spark, the magic. Listen to math and magic stories from the frontiers of Marketing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm going to be on Gilbert Arenas's podcast today.

[Unknown]

That's awesome.

[George M. Johnson]

Gill's Arena. Heck yeah. Gonna be on that a little later on today to chop it up with the guys. Alex in Utah. Hi, Alex. What's on your mind today? Alex is gone. Robin, Ohio. Hi, Rob. Dan, thanks for taking my call.

[Unknown]

Hey, I appreciate all the movies you guys share over the years and I've.

[George M. Johnson]

Watched a lot of them and I.

[Sam Mullins]

Want to share one with you if.

[Unknown]

You haven't already heard of it.

[George M. Johnson]

Okay. Randy Quaid made a golf movie in the 80s.

[Sam Mullins]

Have you.

[George M. Johnson]

Do you know of it? It's called Dead Solid Perfect. I know of it, but I did not watch it. I might have watched a little bit of it, but I did not watch it. But I'll put that on with Varsity Blues there, Rob. I have to watch that as well. Sean in Daytona Beach. Hi, Sean. What's on your mind? Dan, thanks for calling me back. Long time, six foot as of this morning 185. Congratulations to you and the boys on the SPL Emmy nomination.

[Tamara Judge]

And before we get there, thank you for recommending.

[George M. Johnson]

The studio started watching that last night. It is a great, great show. Well, thank you. Oh, okay. I mean, yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

I wanted to say watching on Peacock.

[George M. Johnson]

Thank you for playing the clips of some of the real. And especially the Jerry west clip. If that is not the best sports talk clip of the year across the board in media, I don't know what is, because that is a clip that shows you go from being a fan to a friend, and that is exactly.

[Tamara Judge]

What you do with your program as well.

[George M. Johnson]

Thank you, Dan. Thank you, Sean. That was a tough one to get through, and I can't watch it again. That's as raw as I think it's ever been on this program. And it happened in real time. And that was the thing is, is I knew something was up because I could see Paulie talking to the other Danets while I was on the air. And then all of a sudden I look up and I see on espn, Jerry west has passed away. And I knew what Paulie was trying to do. He was trying to get me to the top of the hour. So during the commercial break, I could kind of gather myself and you know what? We deliver the news when we get the news. And I wasn't waiting. You know, in retrospect, I probably should have, so I could have been a little more professional getting through it. But it hit me. Hit me hard. And to. To actually see him play in person in 1971 and then to have him bring out a celebration anniversary of the show cake to me and to have his home number to be. I don't want to say friend, friendly with him. And he's my dad's favorite player. So as I said on the show, I thought that I. My dad died again when I. When I saw the news, and he was very generous with his time and. Yeah, hit me hard. Can't watch it again, but thank you. Do we have time to play in or out, Paul?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I don't think we do.

[George M. Johnson]

Okay, I can wait till the top of next hour. We can do that.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes.

[George M. Johnson]

Yeah. Do in or out.

[Tamara Judge]

So as of now, you're out on this.

[George M. Johnson]

I'm out, but I'll be in.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay.

[George M. Johnson]

Coming up in about 10 minutes from now, Jalen Milroe has been invited to the NFL draft. I'm out. No. Oh, sorry.

[Unknown]

My bad. I was practicing.

[George M. Johnson]

All right, I'm going to talk about this coming up. Top of next hour. Because they don't want you to be there in the green room and then you stay in the green room. And Jalen Milroe, with most mock drafts is not in the first round now. He just ran a 4, 3 something 40. And I'll go back to when he had what was the big game that he had. And then I talked to a scout and said, you're going to get Lamar Jackson comparisons. He had a big game early in the year and then, you know, didn't have a great second half of the year. But, you know, we ended the previous year and we like, all right, this guy can be something. And now, now you're going to invite him. And I wondered if you invite him, is he going there for all the things around the draft, but maybe not the draft. So I had somebody say this to me yesterday that he thought maybe Jalen goes there because you can make appearances, you can make some money. You don't have to go to the draft, but you can still. There's a lot going on and a lot of, you know, places where you can make some cash. But I think there's, you know, there's one team that I think is the outlier here. We'll talk about that coming up at the top of next hour. By the way, the NFL draft. We will be there in Green Bay in the shadows of Lambo, in the shadows of Lambeau Field, the bar at Homegrown Way. It won't be the frozen tundra, though. Let's hope not. So we'll be at the bar and the but three blocks away from Lambeau. It'll be fun. Frank Caliendo is going to join us coming up. Our first show there. I think Doug Gottlieb, the Wisconsin Green Bay head coach, is gonna stop by as well. He's had an interesting year. Two hours in the books on this Wednesday with the sports Emmy nominated Dan Patrick show consisting of Fritzi, Satan, Marv, Paulie, yours truly and the back room guys. Final hour just ahead.

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[Greg Rosenthal]

What's up everyone? It's Greg Rosenthal and I'm teaming up with the King of Spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that we're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season. From DJs, mock drafts to my top 101, free agents will have it covered for you with all new episodes every Thursday keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL Draft. Listen to 40s and free agents on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Unknown]

I'm ready to fight.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Oh, this is Fighting Words. Okay, I'll put the hammer back.

[George M. Johnson]

Hi, I'm George M. Johnson, a best selling author with the second most banned book in America. Now more than ever, we need to use our voices to fight back.

[Sam Mullins]

Part of the power of black queer.

[Tamara Judge]

Creativity is the fact that we got us.

[George M. Johnson]

You know, we are the greatest culture.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Makers in what world history?

[George M. Johnson]

Listen to Fighting Words on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Mary Kay McBrayer]

I'm Mary Kay McBrayer, host of the podcast the Greatest True Crime Stories Ever Told. This season explores women from the 19th century to now. Women who were murderers and scammers, but also women who were photojournalists, lawyers, writers, and more. This podcast tells more than just the brutal, gory details of horrific acts. I delve into the good, the bad, the difficult, and all the nuance I can find because these are the stories that we need to know to understand the intersection of society, justice, and the fascinating workings of the human psyche. Join me every week as I tell some of the most enthralling true crime stories about women who are not just victims, but heroes or villains, or often somewhere in between. Listen to the greatest true crime stories ever told on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Sam Mullins]

Hi, I'm Sam Mullins and I've got a new podcast coming out called goboy, the gritty true story of how one man fought his way out of some of the darkest places imaginable.

[Unknown]

Roger Caron was 16 when first convicted, has spent 24 of those years in jail.

[Sam Mullins]

But when Roger Caron picked up a pen and paper, he went from an ex con to a literary darling from Campside Media and iHeart Podcasts. Listen to GoBoy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.