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Az Fudd
This is an iHeart podcast. Hey, guys, it's Az Fudd. You may know me as a gold medalist. You may know me as an NCAA national champion. You may even know me as a people's princess. Every week on my new podcast, Fut around and find out. I'll be talking to some special guests about pop culture, basketball, and what it's like to be a professional athlete on and off the court. Listen to Futaround and find out. A production of iHeart Women's Sports in partnership with Unanimous Media on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you your podcast. Why are TSA rules so confusing?
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Noah de Barrasso
You got a hoodie on. Take it all.
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Az Fudd
I'm Manny. I'm Noah.
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Noah de Barrasso
This is Devin.
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Az Fudd
And we're best friends and journalists with a new podcast called no Such Thing, where we get to the bottom of questions like that. Why are you screaming at me? I can't expect. What to do now if the rule was the same, go off on me. I deserve it, you know? Lock him up. Listen to no Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. No Such Thing. Get fired up, y'. All. Season 2 of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one of my favorite people, an incomparable soccer icon, Megan Rapinoe, to the show, and we had a blast. Take a listen. Sue and I were, like, riding the lime bikes the other day, and we're like, wee. Like, this is People ride bikes because it's fun. We got more incredible guests like Megan in store, plus news of the day and more. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Network. I'm Noah and I'm 13. And I started this podcast because, honestly, adults don't ask the right questions. Now you Know with Noah de Barrasso is a show about influence. Who's got it, how they use it, and what it means. For the rest of you, it's not the news. It's what the news should be if someone Gen Z or Gen Alpha made it. Politics is wild, and I'm definitely not here to tame it, but I'm here to make sense of it. Listen to now youw Know with Noah de Barrasso on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When I became a journalist, I was the first Latina in the newsrooms where I worked. I'm Maria Hinojosa. I spent my career creating journalism that centers voices who have been historically sidelined. From the most pressing news stories to deep cultural explorations. Latino USA is journalism with Listen to Latino usa, the longest running Latino news and culture show in the United States. Hear it on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio, Hour two on this Thursday. How's your day going? I'm doing swell. Got the minister of humor, Fritzi Seaton, Marv Paulie, yours truly, the backroom guys. Our good buddy Ross Tucker will join us. We got football tonight. I got the Colts minus six and a half against the Ravens and I've got the Bengals minus six and a half at the Eagles and the Raiders minus four and a half against the Seahawks. Our gambling podcast, after this show with Shay and Irving, Bad Larry and also Dylan will have that up on the website@danpatrick.com Weekend of NFL preseason games starting tonight. And just don't overreact either way. If Shador Sanders plays well on Friday or doesn't play well on Friday, don't overreact. I go back to Zach Wilson a couple of years ago, his first game. People are like, yep, look at that man, did the jets get their guy? Well, we know how that ended. And what you're trying to do is I and, and if you talk to coaches, more probably important offensive coordinators or even defensive coordinators, like the little things that they're looking for, we see, oh my God, he overthrew that guy or he threw a pick or that guy dropped the ball, he ran the wrong route or did he run the wrong route? Did the quarterback throw it the wrong. You know, so there's so many things that go into this because you have players who were playing in their first game or getting, getting to know their first team unit. You know, Shador Sanders hasn't taken too many snaps with the first team, but due to injuries, he's going to be starting on Friday night. So when you see these quarterback battles or you see a player and you go, boy, he didn't look that good, or boy, did you see that, you know, sixth round pick out of tcu, he looked incredible. This is like the summer league in the NBA where we'll watch and we'll go, man, that guy, he put up 40 and then he doesn't even make the roster. So be careful. And I know we're anxious to be like, man, I'm, I'm ready to go, but just be a little bit cautious. There's a yellow blinking light when I'm watching it. Just I, it's never red, it's never green. It's sort of a cautionary tale. 877-3-DP show email address dp@danpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP Show Good morning, those watching on Peacock and our radio affiliates around the country. Seaton poll question for hour two is going to be what we have up there right now. Which type of content do you prefer? Oh boy. Which type of content, Sorry, do you want more of investigative journalism or lifestyle pieces? Okay, right now, 85% of the audience say investigative journalism. Oh, they do? Yes. Now the second part that's going up is which type of content do you actually watch or consume? And those people who said 85% are going to, if they answer the same thing, they're lying. I think we wanted, if you're older, I think you want investigative stories. I just don't think we have the patience now where you're going to read something that could be eight or nine pages long or it's on TV and it's 15 minutes. I just don't know if people have the patience to, to do that, to watch that. Plus, if you're watching sports, we want sports to be positive. We don't want negative stories. We don't want anything that attaches Ohtani to a gambling scandal. We don't want to see a school taken down. We don't want a school get the death penalty or a coach be suspended, a player be suspended. When you think about it, we, we love the positivity of sports. Now granted there's a winner and a loser, but we want them to be able to play or be able to coach. We want the feel good story. I just don't know if people wake up and go too much positivity. Yes, people don't wake up and say too much positivity. However, was there like a more exciting time in. I mean there were a lot of exciting times in sports, but the whole BALCO thing, the whole steroid era covering that, the, I mean all of those things were every day you woke up and were like, what's going to happen today? What's next? How is this all going to go? That was awesome. Having covered that, I, I thought there was too much coverage of it, but it, we were unearthing things all the time. It'd be another name, you know, there'd be another source that, I mean, it It. It just. It metastasizes. And then all of a sudden, you know, it's every single day that you go to work and you have to cover that, and you're hoping there's something that you can add to it. But, yeah, back then, because it was salacious and, you know, baseball, home runs, Bonds, Balco, a rod. Who's this doctor? What are they getting? What's the clear? What's the cream? And how does that help you hit home runs? I. The number of people back then who would say, hey, you can take the clear and cream, but that doesn't help you hit a baseball. Well, it helps you hit a baseball further. And I would always say, why would you risk your career if it didn't help you do something? The amount of money that was made off of performance enhancing drugs, the clear and the cream and steroids, that's why they did it. You run the risk because to them, it was worth the risk. Now, in retrospect, if you ask Rafael Palmero, was it worth it? Or Sammy Sosa, was it worth it? Or Mark McGuire, was it worth it? Or Barry Bonds, was it worth it? You might get different answers from those guys. They might say, you know what? Yeah, they all got paid. But was it worth it? The public shame to go in front of Congress. If you're Mark McGuire, you were America's hero. You were Paul Bunyan. All of a sudden you're there and they're going, and you know, hey, I'm not here to talk about the past. And I go, oh, my God, if that's your game plan, you're in trouble. Rafael Palmero pointing his finger. And Rafael Palmeiro's got 3,000 hits. He was. He's going, you're going to the hall of Fame. Now, nobody brings his name up. You know, when they talk about other players. Rafael Palmero, does he have 500 home runs? I know he's got 3,000 hits. He might have 3,500 home runs, and he's not getting into the hall of Fame. Yeah, Paulie. I think guys like Barry Bonds and Lance Armstrong are not sorry they did it. I think they feel that they had to do it to compete with everyone else who was doing it. Lance Armstrong said to you, everybody was using it. I could either use or go home. And I decided to use, or I'd be off the tour. I think Bonds clearly, no pun, saw other guys using it and said, okay, wait till you see this. Wait till you see my skills with this stuff. I'll be the best ever. And he clearly was, but that's what happened. Bonds, from what I'm told, was watching what. You know, the. The public adoration, you know, adulation with Sammy sosa and Mark McGuire. Okay, it was the summer of Sammy and Mark, we're going to make you guys sportsman of the year. And Bonds is going, are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Watch this. And you saw what could happen when one of the great players uses performance enhancing drugs. And Lance Armstrong was a great story. He came back from testicular cancer. He was going to die. Just the fact that he came back to the Tour de France would have been enough to make him a hero in the United States. But these guys all have that same gene. It is full speed ahead. You know, Jordan had it, Bonds has it. You know, Clemens had it, Lance Armstrong has it. That whatever it takes, I'm gonna. I'm gonna be great. I'm gonna continue to be great. And I. I looked at Lance, and first of all, we didn't care about the Tour de France. And then all of a sudden, hey, an American's winning. And we're like, now Greg LeMond had won, and he survived a shotgun blast, and it ended up winning. And he's really the true hero, in my opinion, when it comes to American cycling. Tour de France. But Lance was. He became a star, worldwide star. And then the French came after him. They're like, you're not gonna. Hey, we can cheat, but you're not gonna cheat and win our race. We can, but you can't. Yeah, Paulie. What was so funny, though? When the French press and people came after Lance Armstrong, it actually bolstered his case here in America. Like, they're jealous. They can't beat him. A lot of people don't have issues with the French in general, right? Going back decades and decades. And it was like, Lance goes, well, look who's coming after me. The people who can't beat me. And we're like, yeah, Lance, go host the ESPYs again. You're the man. Buy some more stuff. Shohei Ohtani was dealing last night. In four innings, he had eight strikeouts. And I'd like. I wanted to see what his odds. MVP odds were after that performance last night. So DraftKings just sent me this. Shohei Ohtani's MVP odds yesterday, minus 450. His odds now are minus 1000. It's really hard for him to lose this, but I do think Kyle Schwarber deserves some consideration here. He's not going to win it. He was plus 350 yesterday. Now he's plus 550. Pete Crow, Armstrong was plus 950 yesterday, now plus 1500. It's Shutani's to lose. And if you're pitching like this and now you're ramping up and then you have that weapon in the postseason, it's pretty amazing. And, and they, they certainly need him because the Dodgers haven't been as formidable as we expected them to be. And I started to wonder about this with Travis Hunter. I don't know how much offense and defense he's going to play if he's listed as a backup cornerback but a starting wide receiver, I feel like it's going to be flipped when the season starts. But if Travis Hunter doesn't go to Jackson State where he can play both ways and you're playing for Deion Sanders, if Travis Hunter went to Georgia or LSU or Florida State, he might get a sprinkling. He wouldn't be playing both ways, but they would go, hey, we're going to put him in third down package. Big schools take you and that's your position. Now, I don't know if this is going to open the door for more players wanting to try this. I thought Derek Stingley who played at LSU could have been a two way player for lsu, but you're getting guys who specialize as a wide receiver and those who specialize as a defensive back. If you don't have Jackson State and Dion, then maybe we don't have Travis Hunter winning the Heisman Trophy because it opened our eyes to Henny. He's playing both ways and then the knock, well, it's Jackson State. Okay. Then he went to Colorado and he was playing both ways just like Shohei Otani. I don't know how many. And most of your great players were probably a pitcher and a shortstop. That was, that's usually the, hey, I'm not pitching, I'm playing shortstop. Hey, I'm batting third. And you know, there's guys who are great pitchers and they were great hitters in high school and maybe in college and most of them were. But I don't know if there's going to be a player or players who say, hey, Ohtani's done it, Travis Hunter's done it. Now you have to have the talent to do it and you have to have a coach or a manager who is willing to let you do that. I keep saying I'd love to see Paul Steens maybe play, maybe bat because he was a pretty good hitter. I remember at Air Force, I don't know the LSU numbers, but you Know, you got some guys who were, you know, they were great athletes and two way players. I'm sure, you know, all of these great players in college played both ways in high school. So you might have been a running back and a defensive back or you know, you're going to be a quarterback and a free safety. Jadevion Clowney played running back in high school and defensive end. You imagine him as a running back. Oh my God, no. This is going to hurt. But watching Ohtani deal last night and, and nobody can answer that. I mean, imagine you can't pitch and you have one of the greatest offensive single seasons in baseball history. So he can't pitch, but he steals bases, hits home runs, hits for average and you win the World Series. That's amazing. But do I think Travis Hunter is going to be used on both sides? Yes, but I think sparingly. I think you just have to ease him in and see what he's comfortable, how he adjusts. Because in the first couple of weeks and then the last couple of weeks, that's what I'd be curious what he's going to say about the whole experience and how he feels, his body feels. Yes, Paul, but with Travis Hunter, if you're going to do it where he's a two way player more than 50% of the time on both sides of the ball, don't you do it now when he's young, when he's fresh and, you know, springy, for lack of a better word, because you think at 29 it's going to be one or the other 28, it's going to be one of the other. Yeah, well, I don't want to burn him out. I don't want to have him get injured. It's a fine line of, hey, people are going to tune in to watch him play both sides of the ball, right? I look at this kind of the opposite. The Jaguars have him for five years, four or five years. I'm going to use everything he's got for those years because it's a coin flip whether he's going to have his second contract there or elsewhere. So if you took him, you took him for both the offense, the defense and the notoriety. And the Dodgers could have gone and said this year, you know what, we don't want Ohtani pitching because the guy was the best hitter on earth basically last year his numbers hitting are noticeably down this year they're still very good. But I wonder if people, if there's people at the Dodgers who say to themselves, man, I wish this dude would just hit and hit.340 with 45 home runs and 40 steals every year because now he has I think 15 or 16 steals this year. Last year he had 59. What, what changed? Wait, wasn't pitching? Yes. And he was playing every day. And yeah, I said he'll never approach those numbers again because he won't be in the position to. They're not going to want him to run like that. I wonder though, later on Dodger people who would prefer it. But maybe when he made his Dodger contract and his Dodger deal, he said, I am a two way player, but it's helping him win an MVP again. He's going to have six or seven MVPs if he continues to hit like this. And you still add in the pitching portion of this. It just, there's no one like him. You know the value when he's on the mound and when he's at the play it. But go back to the Angels, they said, hey, you can do whatever you want because other teams didn't want him to be a two way player, but the Angels did. Now all of a sudden, you know, there you go. Now you're known as the unicorn. You're the guy who does the pitching and hitting. He's doing things that are more impressive than Babe Ruth because Babe wasn't doing them at the same time. He was a pitcher who won over 90 games and then all of a sudden became the greatest hitter in baseball history. Shohei Otani is like, I can go out the mound. I can go to the plate as well in the same game. And he's done it a couple of seasons in a row. All right, we'll take a break. We'll get some phone calls here. Pull question for the second hour of the program. Ross Tucker, our good buddy, will join us up next here on the Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9:00am Eastern, 6:00am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. Join me every weekday morning on my podcast, Straight fire with Jason McIntyre. This isn't your typical sports pod, pushing the same tired narratives down your throat every day. Straight Fire gives you honest opinions on all the biggest sports headlines, accurate stats to help you win big at the sportsbook, and all the best guesses.
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Noah de Barrasso
Do yourself a favor and listen to.
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Az Fudd
Straight fire with Jason McIntyre on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's be real life happens. Kids spill, pets, shed and Accidents are inevitable. Find a sofa that can keep up@washablesofas.com Starting at just $699, our sofas are fully machine washable inside and out so you can say goodbye to stains and hello to worry free living. Made with liquid and stain resistant fabrics, they're kid proof, pet friendly and built for everyday life. Plus, changeable fabric covers let you refresh your sofa whenever you want. Neat flexibility. Our modular design lets you rearrange your sofa anytime to fit your space, whether it's a growing family room or a cozy apartment. Plus, they're earth friendly and trusted by over 200,000 happy customers. It's time to upgrade to a stress free, mess proof sofa. Visit washablesofas.com today and save that's washablesofas.com offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply. Hey guys, it's Az Fudd. You may know me as a gold medalist. You may know me as an NCAA National Champion and recent Most Outstanding player. You may even know me as a people's princess. But now you're also going to know me as your favorite host every week on my new podcast, futaround and find out. I'll give you an inside look at everything happening in my crazy life as I try to balance it all. From my travels across the globe to preparing for another run at the natty with my UConn Huskies, to just trying to make it to my midterms on time. You'll get the inside scoop on everything. I'll be talking to some special guests about pop culture basketball and what it's like to be a professional athlete on and off the court. You'll even get to have some fun with the Fudd family. So if you follow me on social media or watch me on tv, you you may think you know me, but this show is the only place where you can really fud around and find out. Listen to fud around and find out. A production of iHeart Women's Sports in partnership with Unanimous Media on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this. Attention passengers. The pilot is having an emergency and we need some, someone, anyone to land this plane. Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying like, okay, pull this. Until this, pull that, turn this. It's just I can do my eyes closed, I'M Manny. I'm Noah. This is Devin. And on our new show, no Such Thing, we get to the bottom of questions like these. Join us as we talk to the leading expert on overconfidence. Those who lack expertise lack the expertise they need to recognize that they lack expertise.
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Noah de Barrasso
And then as we try the whole.
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Az Fudd
Thing out for real. Wait, what? Oh, that's the Runway. I'm looking at this thing. See? Listen to no Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 1920, a magazine article announced something incredible. Two young girls had photographed real fairies. But even more extraordinary than the magazine article's claim was the identity of the man who wrote the article. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. The man who wrote Sherlock Holmes. Yes. The man who invented literature's most brilliant detective was fooled by two girls into thinking fairies were real. How did they do it? And why does it seem like so many smart people keep falling for outlandish tricks? These are the questions we explore in Hoax, a new podcast from me, Dana Schwartz, the host of Noble Blood, and me, Lizzy Logan. Every episode, we'll explore one of the most audacious and ambitious tricks in history, from the fake Shakespeares to balloon boys, and try to answer the question of why we believe what we believe. Listen to Hoax on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Sometimes it's hard to remember, but going through something like that is a traumatic experience.
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Noah de Barrasso
But it's also not the end of your life.
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Az Fudd
That was my dad reminding me and so many others who need to hear it that our trauma is not our shame to carry and that we have big, bold and beautiful lives to live after what happened to us. I'm your host and co president of this organization, Dr. Lea Tritate. On my new podcast, the Unwanted Sorority, we wade through transformation to peel back healing and reveal what it actually looks like, like and sounds like in real time. Each week, I sit down with people who've lived through harm, carried silence, and are now reshaping the systems that failed us. We're going to talk about the adultification of black girls mothering as resistance and the tools we use for healing. The Unwanted Sorority is a safe space, not a quiet space. So let's lock in. We're moving towards liberation together. Listen to the Unwanted Sorority. New episodes every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Scene. What's poll question for hour two before we get to Ross Tucker. Yeah, we got up There right now. Which type of content do you like to consume? Which type of content do you actually consume? Investigative journalists, journalism or lifestyle pieces? Lifestyle. Right now, what type of content do you want? More? 85% of the audience are saying investigative journalism. What type of content do you actually consume? 78 are saying investigative journalism. Those people are lying. Football tonight, Colts, Ravens, Bengals, Eagles, Raiders, Seahawks Ross Tucker, Westwood One, CBS Sports, host of Ross Tucker Football podcast. He'll be the analyst in the Eagles TV booth tonight when they host the Bengals. What do you look for in a preseason game?
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Noah de Barrasso
Well, that is a terrific question, Dan, and it really varies from team to team. Specifically for the Eagles, the team I work for tonight, it's kind of rare, I feel like, for them to have this many available roles available, starting jobs for a defending super bowl champion that was as good as they were last year. The starting linebacker job next is Akbaugh is up for grab, Starting cornerback across from Quinion Mitchell, starting safety next to Reed Blankenship. And then they lost a bunch of D linemen to free agency or retirement. So the third and fourth edge rushers who, as you know, play a lot, the fourth and 50 tackles who play a lot. So that's, that's seven of the top, I don't know, 14, 15 roles for the Eagles, number one ranked defense are legitimately, genuinely up for grabs starting tonight. And what's cool about it is Zach Taylor, the Bengals head coach, says that the Bengals are going to play their starters, Joe Burrow and those guys for a quarter. So it's fantastic work for the young Eagles defense and for those guys competing for those jobs to go against Burrow and the starters. And I guess Taylor said they're going to even play more Week 2 of the preseason against Washington. So obviously the Bengals are trying to change things up after going 1 and 11 the first two games of the season under Zach Taylor.
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Az Fudd
Yeah, that's the amazing part of this is certain teams can use the first couple of weeks of the regular season as their preseason felt like Belichick and the Patriots did, that the Bengals cannot afford to get off to a slow start again. When you watch rookie quarterbacks, what should we be watching for?
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Noah de Barrasso
I think as much as anything else, it's just, do they look like they belong? Do they look comfortable? You can tell when someone's racing, you know, watch their feet, watch their eyes. If their head's all over the place and. And they've got happy feet in the pocket, that's not what you want to see in general, you know, I Always say it's about any quarterback, but especially young quarterbacks. The faster they're getting rid of the ball right from snap to throw, the better you should feel about them because that shows you that they've done the pre snap work, they've done the preparation, they have a really good feel for where they want to go with the ball and they get it out quickly. I will say, though, Dan, as a caveat, right, most of preseason, especially for young quarterbacks, very vanilla defenses, and then the coaching staffs are going to try to enable these young quarterbacks to get confidence and be able to throw the ball to their first read. It's just not like that in the regular season, right. And the Eagles actually have a classic case tonight. Dorian Thompson Robinson will play. He has been fantastic the last two years in the preseason for the Cleveland Browns and then the regular season. I got to look it up before the game and I, I think he has one touchdown, 11 interceptions in his four regular season start. So it's been very, very different. And that's actually a really important point as it relates to preseason football. Some teams just want to put certain players, Dan, in specific situations and see how they react. Some teams want to feature guys to see what they have left or maybe to try to trade them. Others, you know, they want to try to go into the season with confidence. I mean, everybody, you know, in the regular season, we know that everyone's game planning to the max to try to win that game that week. In the preseason, there's a lot of different goals that people are trying to achieve. And so you can't really look at the score or even the scheme. But I do think how individual players perform, especially if it's really good or really poorly, I do think that's something to make note of.
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Az Fudd
He's Ross Tucker. He's host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. He calls games for CBS and Westwood One smelling salts. The NFL says no more smelling salts. What was your experience with smelling salts?
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Noah de Barrasso
Well, we didn't have that in college at Princeton. And the first time someone gave it to me in the NFL, nobody told me what it was. They just said, sniff it. And Dan, that was a bad experience. Okay. If you don't know what's coming and you just take it and you're like, okay. And you sniff in like that, I mean, I cried. I mean, my nose was burning. I had a really bad first experience, which is probably why I was never a smelling salt guy. You know, there's a lot of guys that after that, you know, they do it, you know, before every game or sometimes during games. I mean, you've been around me enough. Dan. Do I look like a guy that needs smelling salts? Do I seem like a guy that needs a little something extra to get going? The answer is no. And also, I think I was just too much of a wimp. You know, I had such a bad first experience that when they would give it to me after that I would do one of these. Dan, for people watching on Peacock or you like, you know, like five inches from my nose, right? I was, I wasn't, I was too afraid to get it like real close to my nose. By the way, supposedly they can, they can still use smelling salts. The team is just not going to provide them anymore. So now the players have to bring your own smelling salts by OSS to your NFL games.
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Az Fudd
If they're not good for you, then why is the NFL allowing you to bring your own?
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Noah de Barrasso
That's a really good question. I think probably liability. I don't know. You're right. Like if you're the NFL, you're liable. If you're the one supplying it, if you're the one handing them out, it's probably the same reason why they've cut back on a lot of the pain medicine. They've cut back on some of the injections and shots guys get now. They still do it, but man, Dan, when I was playing, do you remember Vioxx, the anti inflammatory? Vioxx?
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Az Fudd
I loved Vioxx.
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Noah de Barrasso
Yeah. And at some point they came out and said, vioxx is bad for you. That is information that would have been very valuable to me in like 2000. Okay. To come out in 2008 after I've been taking it for eight years. Like, how does that help me? And then also with the Torto, right. Stuff like that, they are a little bit more. I mean, back when I played, there'd be a line of 12 guys to get the Tordall shot, right? Just over and over and over and over again. Supposedly they've reeled back some of that stuff and probably for good reason.
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Az Fudd
What's Toradol do?
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Noah de Barrasso
Tortol is by far the best full body anti inflammatory you can ever take. You know, my rookie year, I saw guys getting shots in their butt, right? And I never, I didn't play as a rookie, so I didn't really even know what they were doing. I thought it was like cortisone. And then someone said, no, it's Tortol. Dan, let me just tell you, okay? Year two, we fly to Osaka Japan to play the Niners in the preseason. I'm starting for Washington in the preseason game. After the flight, first practice I get, I hurt my neck. I sprained my neck. I can't leave the hotel room. I'm miserable. Before the game, I go up to the. The Redskins team doctor and say, hey, I need one of those shots in my butt. And, and they said, it's a preseason game. I, we. We didn't even bring one. I said, it's not a pre.
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Az Fudd
This.
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Noah de Barrasso
I'm trying to win a starting job. This is like the most important game of my life. So the Redskins team doctor goes over to the Niners, gets a Tortol shot from them, puts it in my butt. Dan, I played unbelievable. I played unbelievable.
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Az Fudd
It was.
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Noah de Barrasso
I mean, that's like the best I ever played.
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Az Fudd
So.
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Noah de Barrasso
So I will say this, though. The, the tough thing about that, in life, right, as a football player, there's always something bothering you. So after that game, anytime I was starting, I pretty much got a Tortol shot. Because if you ask an NFL player before a game, would you rather be a little bit taller or faster or stronger or whatever, they would tell you, I just want to feel as healthy as possible. Just, just, just. I don't want my back to feel like that or my knee or my left shoulder. Like, I just want to feel that. So once I had that experience, my first preseason game, my second year, anytime I was starting after that, in a regular season game, I had something bothering me. I was taking a Tortol shot because I was trying to maximize my performance on the field.
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Az Fudd
What's your view of the training camp fights? Like, what's it mean to you when you see a team that's fighting actual, you know, fisticuffs?
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Noah de Barrasso
Yeah. So if you got any of my former teammates on here and ask them about me, I. I would think from 2001 to 2008, I'd be surprised if I didn't lead the NFL in training camp fights. I really would. And in fairness, in my mind, I was never starting a fight. I was always finishing a play. Now, the other guys didn't feel that way, and they didn't like me and they thought I was annoying. But I have plenty of friends from high school and college. What do I care about these guys, right? Like, I'm trying to get a job, right? So I would finish the plays, and they would not be happy, you know, whether I'm pancaking them or hitting them late or whatever. So then they would always throw the first swing and Then I would swing back, and I don't know. You know, it's one of those things where the coaches act like they don't like it, but they do. 2004, okay, training camp. Remember Oliver Gibson, who I think recently passed a D tackle? We're in Buffalo, and he was just annoying the crap out of me, and he kept grabbing me. I couldn't get up to the linebacker. He kept grabbing my jersey. So finally, after a play, I was done with it. And that one, I actually started. I'll raise my hand for that one. And I just started wailing on him, and he's punching me back. And they break it up, and I'm walking back to the huddle, and I thought, no, you know what? I hate that guy. I'm sick of it, Dan. I ran back and smoked him. I ran back and smoked him. And Mike Malarkey was our head coach. He kicked me out of practice, okay? This is like halfway through practice. He kicked me out for that move, okay? And he told the team, that is not what they want. That's not. That's not what they're going for. Two things happened after practice. First of all, some of the best veterans we had said, talk. You want to start a fight tomorrow so we can both get out of practice? If you can get out of practice by getting a fight, let's start. It started early, and Malarkey came up to me, and Malarkey said, I'll never forget. Danny said, hey, Ross, I just want to let you know. I said, yeah. I said, I'm sorry. I lost my head. I hate that guy. He's like, I know.
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Az Fudd
He.
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Noah de Barrasso
He said, you know, I told the team that that's not what we're looking for. He said, I just want you to know the way you play is exactly what we're looking for. So they say one thing publicly, Dan, but then privately, you know, they.
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Az Fudd
They.
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Noah de Barrasso
They feel differently.
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Az Fudd
Good to talk to you. Have fun tonight. And you know what? Before you go, you. You tend to tell this story. I think every year, maybe every other year of when you get cut, that here you are, a high school hero. You play at Princeton, you're in the NFL. And that feeling when you get cut, when you go back to your hometown.
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Noah de Barrasso
You know what's so funny? You just saying that. I'm not. I'm not exaggerating. My eyes filled up a little bit because it takes me right back to that. It's, you know, picture for 15 years, your life, 10 to 12 years of your life, you go back and Everybody kind of knows who you are. And everybody's like, hey, Ross. Ross the football player. Ross, how's it going? I saw you again for the Cowboys. I saw you, Ross, what's up, man? How's Princeton going? And then imagine all of a sudden, you go back and it was on the COVID of the Reading Eagle newspaper, okay. In Berks County, Pennsylvania. Now we're west of Philly. It was on the front cover, Ross Tucker released by whoever there was, a bunch of them, right? So now you go back and they don't know how to react, Dan. They don't know. They don't know what to say to you. Some people just kind of put their head down. Some people are like, hey, man, I saw the news. It's a really, really awkward situation. Super uncomfortable. You feel like you're letting those people down. They don't know how to treat you because they've always treated you like, you know, like you're a hero. But now you're the zero. It's. It's. It's not easy. I mean, it is. It takes some. Some significant mental toughness, that's for sure.
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Az Fudd
Do you still have the newspapers that talked about you when you got cut by teams and you came back home?
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Noah de Barrasso
I have all the positive newspaper clippings. I have no idea where the negative newspaper clippings are. I think I threw though. You know, I have scrapbooks which are awesome. My mom did them when I was in high school and college and then I think even in the NFL maybe the first couple years. And I love having those to flip through or show my daughters or whatever, but didn't put the negative stuff in there just because. Brings back bad memories. There's, you know, in life, right? We can all choose to have gratitude for the things that we have and the positive things that have happened, or we can choose to. Like, I could say, I wish I was doing this game as a broadcaster, or I wish I was. I wish I'd played this long in the NFL. How does that help you at all? Right? Instead, I'm just thrilled I'm doing this game tonight. Thrilled I'm doing games for cbs. If you have gratitude for the things you have and are thankful for the things you have, man, you'll be so much happier than if you're always worried about what could have been or thinking about what could have been or the negative or the bad things that happened. I choose to look back on my NFL career and just think about the positives in seven years and not all the injuries or the 40 times I got cut or whatever, I've tried to block me, it's still there. But I try to block that out as much as I can.
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Az Fudd
Thanks for sharing. Good to talk to you. Thank you Ross.
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Noah de Barrasso
Always great talking.
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Az Fudd
Dan Ross Tucker Ross Tucker Football Podcast CBS Sports in Westwood one covering college football and the NFL. We'll take a break. Your phone calls coming up. We'll also play who's More hall of Famey? We'll give you two candidates. Which one is more hall of Famey? After this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Time for a sofa upgrade. Visit washablesofas.com and discover Annabe where designer style meets budget friendly prices with sofas starting at $699, Annabe brings you the ultimate in furniture innovation with a modular design that allows you to rearrange your space effortlessly. Perfect for both small and large spaces, Anabe is the only machine washable sofa inside and out. Say goodbye to stains and messes with liquid and stick stain resistant fabrics that make cleaning easy.
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Az Fudd
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Noah de Barrasso
Those who lack expertise lack the expertise.
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Az Fudd
They need to recognize that they lack expertise.
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Noah de Barrasso
And then as we try the whole.
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Az Fudd
Thing out for real. Wait, what? Oh, that's the Runway. I'm looking at this thing. See? Listen to no Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever looked at a piece of abstract art or music or poetry and thought that's just a bunch of pretentious nonsense? Well, that's exactly what two bored Australian soldiers set out to prove during World War II when they pulled off what was either a bold literary hoax or a grand poetic experiment, publishing over a dozen intentionally bad but highly acclaimed works of expressionist poetry under the name Ern Malley. In an incident that caused a media firestorm and even a criminal trial, the Ern Malley episode made fools of believers and critics alike and still fascinates poetry lovers to this day. We break down the truth, the lies, and the poetry in between on Hoax, a new podcast hosted by me, Lizzie Logan, and me, Dana Schwartz. Every episode, Hoax explores an audacious fraud or ruse from history, from forged artworks to the original fake news. To try and answer why we believe, listen to Hoax on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Sometimes it's hard to remember, but going through something like that is a traumatic experience.
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Noah de Barrasso
But it's also not the end of your life.
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Az Fudd
That was my dad reminding me and so many others who need to hear it that Our trauma is not our shame to carry and that we have big, bold and beautiful lives to live after what happened to us. I'm your host and co president of this organization, Dr. Leah Tritate. On my new podcast, the Unwanted Sorority, we wade through transformation to peel back healing and reveal what it actually looks like and sounds like in real time. Each week, I sit down with people who've lived through harm, carried silence, and are now reshaping the systems that failed us. We're going to talk about the adultification of black girls mothering as resistance, and the tools we use for healing. The Unwanted Sorority is a safe space, not a quiet space. So let's lock in. We're moving towards liberation together. Listen to the Unwanted Sorority. New episodes every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The FedEx St. Jude Championship has Scotty Scheffler as the overwhelming favorite this week. He's plus 280 to win. Next, Xander Shafley, plus 1600. Can we check and see when's the last time somebody was that big of a favorite during a tour event? Plus 280. Xander Shopley, plus 1600 to win St. Jude. Yes, Todd, a little controversy about Rory McElroy sending this one out. Some officials not loving the fact that he's not participating. Yeah, I don't know. It feels like there's a undercurrent there with Rory that all of a sudden didn't want to talk to the media. Just feels like all of that goodwill that he built up and then like, what's it. What's at the core of this? And, you know, maybe he feels like the PJ Tour didn't have his back because, remember when he was using a. An illegal driver, but Scotty Scheffler was using one as well, but the media focused on Rory and I hope he gets back to doing interviews because I've always said he's one of my favorite interviews, because he does think about every question you ask. Even if he's heard that question 10 times, he will give you an answer. And I always appreciate that. David in Ohio. Hi, David. What's on your mind? Hey, Dan. With Micah Parsons holding out and the smelling salts, NFL no longer providing them, Jerry Jones just installed a blockbuster in the room to get the boys fired up like it's the glory days. Thank you. All right. Thank you, David Patton, Virginia. Hi, Pat. What's on your mind? Good morning, Dan. I had a question for your journalism. Is that with the merger of the NFL and ESPN I. I was told that the equity part goes divided by the owners. How do they monetize that to put that into the salary cap? They don't put it in the salary cap. I don't think the players get that equity with ESPN and NFL Network or NFL. Yeah, I'm guessing the CBA collective bargaining agreement will have something to say about that. But Mike Florio brought that up yesterday, that they're getting 10% of ESPN. I think the owners are getting 10% of ESPN. Shuffles in Phoenix. Hi, Shuffles.
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Noah de Barrasso
Good morning, Dan.
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Az Fudd
And I'm calling in. I'm doing my own generalistic advance work here and also involving contracts, because back.
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Noah de Barrasso
In, I think, May, you had Adam Silver on.
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Az Fudd
Do you remember that conversation with Adam, specifically? What part of the conversation? The part where you told Adam that you have three years to go, which means you're going to be gone to roughly May of 2028. And you said it on the air, which I think is a binding contract. You have to do it. I think can bring this up because you.
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Noah de Barrasso
You told Adam, like, not once, not twice, but thrice.
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Az Fudd
Adam, I have three years left.
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Noah de Barrasso
I was rejoicing because I figured you were gonna stick around longer than we anticipate.
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Az Fudd
And that's. That's actually evidence of it.
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Noah de Barrasso
The other thing I wanted to bring up is you and Marvin always disparage the Arizona Wildcats, and I wanted to.
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Az Fudd
See if you guys would be willing.
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Noah de Barrasso
To do a pie to the face coming up, because Connecticut and Arizona are going to be playing for the next two years during the regular season.
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Az Fudd
So I wanted to throw down the gauntlet on Connecticut.
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Noah de Barrasso
Arizona. I take Arizona. You guys can take Connecticut.
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Az Fudd
I'm not back in Connecticut. I didn't go there. And that's Marvin's alma mater. And shuffles. I think you have to admit, Arizona kind of finds the banana peel in basketball. Right?
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Noah de Barrasso
I disagree.
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Az Fudd
We should have three national championships. You don't. I was there when you won your national championship. Yeah. I mean, I should have six Emmys, but I don't have any. Not with the. The show. I was good friends with Loot Olson and his wife. I was there. Yes, Marvin, I will take that. Okay, you got it. Shuffles. Marvin will take the vet each of the next two years.
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Noah de Barrasso
Yep. And when you guys don't go to the Final Four, don't make any more excuses.
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Az Fudd
Wow. Shots. Love it. Thank you. Thank you, Shuffles. Thank you. I misspoke, I guess with the commissioner I was working for three more years. It's the super bowl in Atlanta. That's. We should do a countdown. We. We have a countdown. I didn't know it was that funny. Yeah, see? Yeah. Maybe we could start that clock once the NFL season starts. We could start the Dan retires clock. Yeah. We got 28 days, 9 hours, 28 minutes and 26 seconds before the start of the NFL season. Michaela in Missouri. Hopefully I got that name correct. Yes. Hey, Dan. I'm flying out to Utah for college in a few weeks with my dad. His name's Bill. And I've been listening to your show for as long as I can remember with my dad. We're going to drive out there and call you during your drive. We decided to fly last minute, so I decided to call in and surprise my dad. So my question is, what advice do you have for my dad as he drops me off at college? Okay. He's got to stay strong because he's got confidence in you, Mikayla, that you are a woman who's ready for the big challenge now of going to college and you're going to make everybody proud and that he should have full confidence in you. It's emotional because he'll miss seeing you every day. Nothing wrong with crying. I did with all of my kids when they went to school, but I also had confidence in them and told them I had confidence in them that make wise choices, make sure that you get the partying out of the way, understand what's going to happen. And then you got to be disciplined there because you can't say, hey, don't party because you will. The question is, when do you stop and then get serious about school. That tell dad, stay strong, look you in the eye, tell him that he loves you and. And tell him that you love him and can I have some money, Dad? I think those would be the important things. Thank you. Good luck. Michaela. It's Michaela. Missouri going to school, that was always tough. My wife would say, stay strong. Stay strong. Okay. You know, it made me cry when I saw the bills for how much it cost to send them to school. Mike in la. Hi, Mike. What's on your mind? Hey, guys. Native Cincinnati and enjoyed the Tucker interview. He sounds exactly like Mike. Go with Tamius. If I close my eyes, it would swear it was my golic. Well, you know them two better than you, but it really baffled me. Hey, the other day you mentioned the graters thing. It was found in Cincinnati in 1870. But the really best ice cream place is called Aguamisi Brothers, which isn't nearly as it doesn't have the notoriety, but it's down in Oakley. It's really, really good. You were talking to Ross Dan about the smelling salts and the substances. Was there ever any talk of Jamar Hamlin's cardiac arrest, that there was any type of thing like that involved? No, I didn't see that. But, you know, it was where he was hit. It was a, you know, it was a fluke hit. Was that T. Higgins? And just where it hit him stopped his heart. All right, coming up, who is more hall of Faming? Paul will give us two candidates and we'll decide final hour in this Thursday. Back after this. Hey, guys, it's Az Fudd. You may know me as a gold medalist, you may know me as an NCAA national champion. You may even know me as the people's princess. Every week on my new podcast, futaround, and find out. I'll be talking to some special guests about pop culture basketball and what it's like to be a professional athlete on and off the court. Listen to FUT around and find out. A production of iHeart Women's Sports in partnership with Unanimous Media on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Not today. Not today. Why are TSA rules so confusing?
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Noah de Barrasso
You got a hoodie on.
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Az Fudd
Take it all. I'm Manny. I'm Noah. This is Devin, and we're best friends and journal with a new podcast called no Such Thing, where we get to the bottom of questions like that. Why are you screaming? I can't expect what to do now if the rule was the same. Go off on me. I deserve it, you know, Lock him up. Listen to no Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. No Such Thing. I'm NOAH and I'm 13. And I started this podcast because, honestly, adults don't ask the right questions. Now, you know what? Noah de Barrasso is a show about influence. Who's got it, how they use it, and what it means for the rest of you. It's not the news. It's what the news should be if someone Gen Z or Gen Alpha made it. Politics is wild, and I'm definitely not here to tame it, but I'm here to make sense of it. Listen to now youw Know with Noah de arrasto on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Get fired up, y'. All. Season 2 of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one of my favorite and incomparable soccer icon Megan Rapinoe to the show and we had a blast. Take a listen. Sue and I were like riding the lime bikes the other day and we're like wee people ride bikes because it's fun. We got more incredible guests like Megan in store, plus news of the day and more. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Network. When I became a journalist, I was first Latina in the newsrooms where I worked. I'm Maria Hinojosa. I spent my career creating journalism that centers voices who have been historically sidelined. From the most pressing news stories to deep cultural explorations, Latino USA is journalism with heart. Listen to Latino usa, the longest running Latino news and culture show in the United States. Hear it on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart podcast.