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Dan Patrick
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Podcast Host 1
The Made for this Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well being and then climb that mountain.
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Podcast Host 2
You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say. Hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle.
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Podcast Host 1
Listen to Made for this mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Dan Patrick
I know a lot of cops. They get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. This is Absolute Season one Taser Incorporated.
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Podcast Host 3
I get right back there and it's bad.
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Dan Patrick
Listen to Absolute Season 1 Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Dan Flores
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Podcast Host 4
Listen to the American west with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Podcast Host 5
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Well, not me, but me with someone else's body parts.
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Podcast Host 4
You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio, Hour two On this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan at Dan Patrick show, co host of all the Smoke. Stephen Jackson, former NBA player, will join us coming up. Also, Quinn Buckner, Pacers broadcaster. In an hour from now, the Pacers, they hold on. Beat the Knicks by nine. They're up three games to one. Tyrese Halliburton had pretty much a perfect game. 32 points, 15 assists and 12 rebounds. I was wondering, in playoff history, the most assist without a Turnover. So his 15 assist were the most in a postseason triple double without a turnover since Magic Johnson. In 1991. Magic had 21, 10 and 17 assists. Now, Chris Paul also had 15 assist and a triple double without a turnover in 2008. 24, 11 and 15 is the stat of the day. Stat of the day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. Yeah, when your name is up there with Magic Johnson in the postseason, that's a pretty good list to join there. Magic in 1991, 21, 10 and 17 assists. But Halliburton, 32, 12 and 15, zero turnovers. So most points in a playoff triple double without a turnover since this was 2002. Marvin, you might get this. It's a. It's a player that. You brought up his name before. He's in the hall of. Very good. In 2002, he had 33 points, 14 rebounds, 10 assists and no turnovers. Sean Marion. No. Baron Davis. Yeah, we got one. That's right. Yeah, of course. Yes, of course. It was all right. The 877,3DP show operator sitting by. That's Tyler. He'll take your phone calls tonight. The Timberwolves are getting eight and a half against the Thunder as OKC tries to close them out. Orders up, three one on the stars, Panthers, Hurricanes. Game five tonight. Poll question for our two is going to be what seed? No, Connor.
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Podcast Host 5
We got a couple of options here. Paul is very optimistic on Shohei Ohtani. He wants to know how many MVPs he ends his career with. Four, five, six, seven plus.
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Podcast Host 4
Okay, who has the most MVPs in baseball history?
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Podcast Host 3
Barry Bonds has seven.
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Podcast Host 4
Seven.
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Podcast Host 3
Nobody else has more than three. There's like seven guys in history that have three, but if you could. Barry got three before the Giants and four with. So they're. It's a dubious seven, I guess you'd say. Okay, so here's the point. I was thinking about Ohtani. How does he not win the MVP over the next few years? If you combine 50 plus home runs with a.300 average that, that'll probably get it for you. And then you add in maybe a dozen starts or helping his team in a great team that's always in the playoff picture. It's almost like betting against him winning the MVP would be a bad bet in the near future.
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Podcast Host 4
Yeah, I think he's got a built in advantage if he does pitch. I mean, he's already going to put up offensive numbers. He just hit his 20th home run. He's homeward in three consecutive games. We're not surprised anymore with that. I think coming back to, to pitch and if he's going to be successful, how, how much do you use him? But do I. Would Sotani have three MVPs now?
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Podcast Host 3
Yes, he has three in the past four seasons and he finished runner up once.
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Podcast Host 4
Okay.
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Podcast Host 3
Does he ever, he probably won't ever get the treatment that Giannis would get or even Michael Jordan because no one else does what he does.
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Podcast Host 4
Well, who would you compare him to with those other players? Those other like basketball players are putting up crazy stats now and you know, everybody gets 20 points. It feels like, you know, in baseball not everybody is doing what Ohtani does now. Guys hit a lot of home runs, but he's still hitting for average. He's helped out by being in the National League because Aaron judge the season that he's having in the American League. So there's only one MVP they don't want do one for the Eastern Conference and the Western Conference, and that's what baseball does. But I, I would be surprised if Ohtani doesn't end up with at least five MVPs. Yeah, Paul.
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Podcast Host 3
Yeah, I was thinking the same because if you look at it, there's a couple guys who pop up every year in the nl, but at the end of the day when, when you get to the vote, you're going to have to create a reason to not vote for Ohtani. Yeah, it's like the best story or some guy who comes out of nowhere.
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Podcast Host 4
But he can pitch and if he's able to pitch and I, and I understand that he wants to pitch and the Dodgers, you know, love that novelty as well. I just wouldn't want to run the risk of another arm surgery. Then it takes the bat out of the lineup.
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Podcast Host 5
Yes, but is there, is there something to like sort of the other side of that argument where he would have to be a great pitcher and a great hitter, like he has to be sort of great in both respects. I'm not saying that he's not necessarily, but That's a high bar to keep up every year.
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Podcast Host 4
I would say he just has to be a good pitcher and a great hitter because I don't know if he's going to pitch enough to be a great pitcher. I think he can be a guy who maybe, maybe wins like 12 games, but I don't know how much you want to use him. You know, is a five man rotation, Is he a six man rotation? I don't. And plus pitchers now are pitching five innings, so that's a little bit different with the wear and tear on him. But he's had a couple of quote procedures that would make me nervous. Yeah.
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Podcast Host 3
Paulie Ohtani's last three years as a starting pitcher and he only started about 25 games a year. He was 9 and 2, 15 and 9, 10 and 5. He was like a B plus. His stats were very good. His era was very good. But he didn't have enough starts to get to 20 wins. But it helped him get the MVP.
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Podcast Host 4
If he gets between 10 and 15 wins and he's Ohtani at the plate, I don't know how anybody can come close to him as far as the mvp. Terry Bradshaw, hall of Famer, Steeler great. Had some things to say. He's not happy with what the Steelers are doing. He did not hold back as he was on a radio show and blasted the Pittsburgh Steelers. Here is a portion of that interview with Terry Bradshaw on Morning Mayhem podcast. What do you think about possibly Aaron Rodgers being the quarterback?
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Dan Flores
That's a joke.
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Podcast Host 4
He shouldn't they. That is just to me is a joke. What are you going to bring him.
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Dan Flores
In for one year?
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Podcast Host 4
Are you kidding me? I mean, that's not the Steelers way, right? No, man. That guy needs to stay in California. Thank you. Chew on bark and whisper to the gods out there. 100. These guys on the show, Mr. Bradshaw, know I'm not a fan of his. We've been around each other personally and he was not a kind person. Now he does not. I had to go over and introduce myself to him. He. He's not.
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Podcast Host 3
I had to go, hey, hey, Aaron, I'm Terry Bradshaw.
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Podcast Host 4
I know he knows me, but I just felt like I better tell him who I am. Ye. And not, you know, walk in there and you get in his presence and you feel like it's going to start snowing. Okay. Is he ripping Rogers or is he ripping the Steelers or both. Sounds like he doesn't like Aaron Rodgers and he doesn't like what the Steelers are doing now. I agree with what this. You know, with him. I don't agree with what the Steelers are doing, but I do think the Steelers have a verbal agreement with Aaron Rodgers. That would be my best guess. I don't have any information other than the Steelers are kind of quietly moving on with life every single day. They don't seem to be panicking. I don't think you can be comfortable going into the season with Mason Rudolph. Therefore, I think they have a verbal agreement with Aaron Rodgers. Rogers going to do what he wants to do, then he's going to show up and he's going to be your quarterback. That's the feeling. I think early on in the talks that they had the interview, when he came in, spent six hours there, I thought, okay, these are the Steelers. You want to play for the Steelers. It's not. The Steelers are begging you to play for them. And it felt that way in the beginning. And I'm sure the Steelers came up with some kind of framework here to say, this is what we're going to offer you. We're going to go out and make this deal, we're going to get rid of this wide receiver, we're going to clue you in on everything that's going on here, and then we need you to show up. And they probably have a certain date already circled where Aaron Rodgers will show up to play for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Here's another thing that's going on, and it's. It's quietly going on, but it's something that I'm trying to get more information on it, and it has to do with Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins is now the backup quarterback in Atlanta. Michael Penix Jr. III is your starter. Well, Kurt Cousins, ultimate team player, he didn't show up for OTAs. Now it's surprising because it feels like Kirk has maybe embraced the fact that he's going to be a mentor to Michael Pennix Jr. Doesn't mean he doesn't want to play, doesn't want to be a starter. And then there was talk, well, if the Steelers don't get Aaron Rodgers, they'll get Kirk Cousins. I don't see that situation, at least not yet. But this is what I was told. This is a good situation for both sides because it will be less awkward. Both sides waiting for a trade to materialize. Last week, the offensive coordinator with the Falcons said that Cousins, it's only been there for a handful of days this off season. This situation might be like Carson Palmer in 2011. Sit home, wait for an injury, but with full pay. That is what I'm told is happening with Kirk Cousins, that he'll want to play and probably have to bide his time and wait for an opening there. And there was talk that Rogers was going to try to do this, that Rogers would wait for an injury. And, you know, he was also, I guess, holding out hope for Minnesota. But there's, you know, there's some things going on. But I do think Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers have a verbal agreement for him to go play. And I think that's why there's no panic in Pittsburgh, at least in the front office. Yes, Paul.
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Podcast Host 3
And you'd be fine with this if you're the Falcons because there's no upside. There's. Remember that Sam Bradford trade a million years ago when the Eagles traded Bradford to Minnesota, when Teddy Bridgewater ripped up his knee and they got a whole bunch for them? That's the ideal situation. Not that you want someone to get hurt, but if you're the Falcons, you just wait it out.
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Podcast Host 4
Yeah. And I don't know what you're going to get. And there's been talk of how much are you going to pick up of his salary? Well, those things have a way of working out and, you know, is some team going to pick up half of his salary? You know, what are the Falcons on the hook for? What do the Falcons want in return for Kirk Cousins? Because if I'm Pittsburgh, Kirk Cousins makes more sense than Aaron Rodgers because at least I can get. I know that I can get a couple of years out of Kirk Cousins. I don't know what I get. You know, this. The Steelers could be going through this next year with Aaron Rodgers. You gonna play? I don't know. You sure? I don't know. I might play. I don't know. Let me go. I'm. I gotta go on a retreat, and then I'll come back and I'll let you know. Like, you know, that's not how you run an organization. If you. You want continuity there. Do I think the ceiling for Aaron Rodgers is different than Kirk Cousins? Of course. But I also have to look at my locker room, having that guy who's going to be there help the younger players. That's what you want, certainly from a guy of his status, but I. I'm guessing that he's still going to want to play at least one more year in Pittsburgh. All right, so we have our poll question for hour two. Seton. Yeah.
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Podcast Host 5
Yeah, we got a couple of poll questions going, too. It's. It's crazy to me that Kirk Cousins is looking at moving teams again.
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Podcast Host 4
Well, would you Just stay in Atlanta.
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Clayton English
He.
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Podcast Host 4
And be a backup.
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Podcast Host 5
Yeah, I don't know. I, I mean, I would want to play if I was him. However, he just signed another monster deal and he barely even threw that where he got, what, 100 million guaranteed or something. And now he's already on his way out. He already lost that job.
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Podcast Host 4
Well, I wouldn't have brought him in to begin with. And I said that coming off an injury and you're going to pay him all that money. I mean, I credit him and his agent. They're brilliant business people. We did reach out to Kirk Cousins and we were told that he doesn't want to. Doesn't want to do the interview or doesn't want to talk to. He's basically not available at this time, which is okay. I think he'll, you know, he loves the show. He'll come on when he was up for it. Well, he's not practicing, so what's he doing? It seems like he would have a lot of time.
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Podcast Host 5
Can't buy a phone for all that money.
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Podcast Host 3
Do our OTAs.
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Podcast Host 4
A tricky time right now for Kirk in the. In the Falcon. Okay. I got needs, too. Todd, you could help me fill some time here. He's usually very generous with his times. We love Kirk. He'll come on when he feels like it's the right time. All right? Okay. All right. For our purposes, would be great to come on today. Okay. But why wouldn't he want to come on if there's nothing, you know, no news and he's staying in Atlanta, then should be fine. As you ask the tough questions that everybody wants to know. What are you not at OTAS for like honoring his career in Qualcomm? We want to know what's going on there. Why are you blowing up OTAs?
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Podcast Host 3
Yes, Paul, we will be playing 30 minutes from now the Kirk Cousins game. Where will he be next year? We got to beat the rush on this.
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Podcast Host 4
Goodness. Wow.
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Podcast Host 3
Tune in for that.
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Podcast Host 4
All right. Stephen Jackson will join us. He is a co host of all the Smoke, former NBA player. We'll take a break. More phone calls coming up. We're back after this. In the Dan Patrick Show, FOX Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Hey, it's Steve Covino and I'm Rich Davis. And together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and of course the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say. I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search Covino and Rich wherever you get your podcast. And of course on social media, that's Covino and Rich.
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Podcast Host 1
Made for this Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you.
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Podcast Host 2
You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. This is the thing that's in front of me. You can't make that mountain move without actually diving into that.
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Podcast Host 1
May is Mental Health Awareness Month, a time to conquer the things that once felt impossible and step boldly into the best practice version of yourself to awaken the unstoppable strength that's inside of us all. So tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well being and climb your.
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Podcast Host 2
Personal mountain because it's impossible for you to be the most authentic you. It's impossible for you to love you fully if all you're doing is living to please people. Your mountain is that.
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Podcast Host 1
Listen to Made for this mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Dan Patrick
I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.
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Podcast Host 4
Across the country, cops called this Taser the Revolution.
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Dan Patrick
But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.
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Dan Flores
Cops believed everything that Taser told them.
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Dan Patrick
From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season one Taser Incorporated.
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Podcast Host 3
I get right back there and it's bad.
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Podcast Host 4
It's really, really really bad.
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Dan Patrick
Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1 Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2 and 3 on May 21 and episodes 4, 5 and 6 on June 4 ad free at Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.
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Dan Flores
The American west with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network. Hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores and brought to you by Velvet Buck, this podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and best selling author and Meat Eater founder Stephen Rinella.
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Podcast Host 4
I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here and I'll say it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for Cat.
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Dan Flores
So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th where we'll delve into stories of the west and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today.
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Podcast Host 4
Listen to the American west with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Dan Patrick
In 1978, Roger Caron's first book was published and he was unlike any first time author Canada had ever seen.
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Podcast Host 4
Roger Caron was 16 when first convict has spent 24 of those years in.
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Podcast Host 3
Jail, 12 years in solitary.
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Dan Patrick
He went from an ex con to a literary darling almost overnight.
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Podcast Host 4
He was instantly a celebrity, he was.
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Dan Flores
An adrenaline junkie and he was the.
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Podcast Host 4
Star of the show.
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Dan Patrick
Go Boy is the gritty true story of how one man fought his way out of some of the darkest places imaginable.
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Podcast Host 4
I had a knife within my stomach, puncture my spirit, break my rib.
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Clayton English
I had my guts all in my.
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Dan Patrick
Hands, only to find himself back where he started.
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Clayton English
Roger's saying is, I've never hurt anybody but myself.
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Podcast Host 5
And I said, oh, you're so wrong.
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Clayton English
You're so wrong on that one.
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Dan Patrick
Rod from Campside Media and iHeart Podcasts, listen to GoBoy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Podcast Host 4
Catch up with Stephen Jackson played 14 years in the NBA. Now a co host of all the Smoke podcast. He'll join us coming up here in a moment. Ethan in Indianapolis joins us. Hi, Ethan. What's on your mind today, Ethan? Hey, Dan, how's it going? Big fan. Thanks for having me on. Sure. Just wanted to let you know I'm the brand new father. His name is Tatum. He is a whopping 21 inches and a Cotton Bell sock, 6 pounds, 15 ounces. Well, congratulations, Ethan. Your phone connection is not very good, but congratulations on becoming a, a new father. Jay in West Virginia. Hi, Jay. What's on your mind today? Hi, Dan. How you doing today? Good, sir. Good. Hey, I heard you talk earlier about Colorado and why attendance is still somewhat okay because even though they're bad, I just went there last week and one of the things I found really surprising was like the Rooftop, they have a, they have a bar up top of the of the ballpark called the Rooftop and there's Smash Burger up there, too. And of all the places that was in the ballpark, that place was packed.
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Clayton English
And the one thing I came to.
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Podcast Host 4
Find out because I've been quite a few ballparks was the food was really good, the atmosphere was really nice. And you know, it's like having a social hour and a ball, and a ball game was in play. You know, I thought it was just really cool how the atmosphere was, you go to something. Yeah, yeah, you're going and you know, it's a social scene there. Thanks for the phone call, Jay. Yes, Paul.
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Podcast Host 3
Yeah, it's by far the easiest sport to enjoy with nothing really going on. Your team could be 20 games out or 20 games up.
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Podcast Host 4
Yeah, they created this atmosphere at a lot of these ballparks that they wanted to be a social event that you can go there and you're going to watch your game, enjoy yourself and maybe you watch a little bit of baseball. I'm Looking at since 1984, the most assist in a playoff game without a Turnover. So Halliburton had a triple double. We've already talked about that company that he's in. Rajan Rondo had 19 assists and no turnovers in a playoff game. That was.09 against the Bulls. Magic Johnson had 17 back in 1991. Robert Reed of the. Of the Rockets. I was at this game at 1986 NBA Finals against the Celtics. Chris Paul had 16 back in 2014, and J. Kidd had 16 for the Suns back in 2001. And that's without a turnover. Stat of the day. Stat of the day. Stat of the day. Stat of the day. Here comes that. What? Stat of the day, brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the program. And once again, if you're Just joining us, Halliburton's 15 assists are the most in a postseason triple double without a turnover Since Magic in 1991. Chris Paul said 15 assists in his triple double without a turnover in 2008. Taking care of the ball, having the ball in your hands constantly. But also he accounted for either scoring or assisting on over half his team's points in that game. And that was the game I thought that the Knicks were going to win. The Knicks have proven they can win on the road. Well, now they really have to prove that they can win on the road. This is a must win situation for them. They haven't played great at home. And, you know, there are people coming up with different thoughts on that, that maybe it's too big of an, of an event, and it's all the celebrities there. I'm like, shut up. The Lakers won championships with Hollywood there. Like, come on. Oh, it's. It's too big for them. Yes.
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Podcast Host 3
Paulie, I saw that clip. I think Boomer Siason said it on New York radio, and I assumed he's making a joke, like they got stage fright in front of celebrities. He appeared to be being serious.
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Podcast Host 4
I've seen it a couple of places. But is it too big of too much pressure on them? There's pressure on, on teams to win. I. I mean. And how much are you noticing when you play? When do you notice that, you know, Ben Stiller is there? You probably notice in warm ups and then you go, all right, now I got to do my job. I mean, shouldn't you be used to Ben Stiller being there or John McEnroe or Timothy Chalamet? I. I don't know. I think I'd be a little more intimidated if I was playing in front of celebrities at a Laker game than a Knicks game. Yes, Paul.
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Podcast Host 3
I think if I were a player being serious, I'd probably be nervous if a legend was in the house. Like, if you're a Laker and there's Kareem sitting baseline, you're like, oh, you know, like, judgmental. I. I don't think I would care about any celebrity being there, but if a legend of that franchise was there, you're like, I better get this together.
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Podcast Host 4
Well, if Halle Berry, you know, back in the day, changed my mind, that probably would disrupt me of modern day.
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Podcast Host 5
Yeah, it's still pretty disruptive.
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Podcast Host 4
Yeah.
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Podcast Host 5
Yeah, quite disruptive. But Ben Stiller.
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Podcast Host 4
Oh, my God, is that Ben Stiller?
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Podcast Host 5
I'm never gonna hit this shot now. I don't. That's not gonna do it.
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Podcast Host 4
Yes. Yes, Marvin. Especially for the Knicks. Like, if you see Spike Lee, he's there every game. Ben Stiller's there every game. Howard Stern, maybe 15 years ago was there every game. Tracy Morgan, today, they're every game. So they're just normal people. You see every single game. So I'm not sure if they got stage fright or anything, but maybe if you're an away team playing the Lakers and you see Jack or, you know, whoever. Andy Garcia, Denzel, whoever's there, you're like, maybe I'm a little nervous. But once the game starts, they're probably focused on the game more so than the celebs. Yeah, I would hope so. I would think that the fans expectation, the excitement, the. The atmosphere that they bring, you know, maybe. Maybe that affects you. I'm just surprised that this moment is too big for, you know, these basketball players. Like, you forget to shoot or defense or, like, you're not watching celebrities. Yes.
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Podcast Host 5
Yeah, it isn't celebrities, but there is a pressure to the playoffs, and then the atmosphere certainly adds something to it. I guess celebrities are part of that, you know, But I. I do get the lights feeling a little different when, you know, it's an Eastern Conference finals or something.
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Podcast Host 4
And is that why they play better when they're on the road? Because, you know, there's just too many celebrities here.
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Podcast Host 5
Oh, great. They traveled with us.
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Podcast Host 4
Timothy Chalamet went to India. What are you doing here? McAfee's type in the crowd.
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Podcast Host 5
I'm gonna go over 12.
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Podcast Host 4
It's going to be too big that this moment's too big for us. Yes.
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Podcast Host 3
A few years ago, I think we had the comedian David Spade on, and he told us, in. In with Laker Land, you judge your hotness in Hollywood by what seats you're given. He Goes, so you'll call for seats, or you have your PR person call for seats. You're like, oh, row four, not a good year. But row one means you're having a great year.
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Podcast Host 4
I wasn't. I'm not sure if it was the Pacers or it was the 76ers playing the Lakers in the finals. I just remember taking a lap, and all of a sudden I saw, you know, there were certain people in first row, second row, third row. Pamela Anderson was in, like, the third row, and she was prime Pam Anderson. And I saw her making out with this model, Marcus Schenkenberg, and I was like, okay. You know, then I drive, you know, walk around, I see Brad Pitt there and Nicholson there. You know, they're used to seeing that. Let's bring in Stephen Jackson, a co host of all the Smoke podcast. We were just talking about a couple members of the media saying that playing in New York, playing at the Garden, seeing these celebrities, that maybe it's. It's too big for the Knicks, you know, that they get somehow off their game and they play at home. You buy into that.
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Clayton English
What's up, Dan? Thanks for having me. No, I don't buy into it. You know, I will say that everybody's not built for those moments. I know a lot of guys I played with and played against that were great shooters, that made shots. First three quarters, fourth quarter, big games and playoffs, they couldn't fall. You know, I started something, Dan. I said, I make love to pressure. I love those moments. I love being against those and being in those big old crowds. So. But everybody can't do it. And sometimes people do get rattled.
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Podcast Host 4
How do you explain Halliburton.
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Clayton English
Iq? I think. I think his whole success is being a student of the game and understanding the game. To have 37 points, 10 rebounds, and 15 assists with no turnovers for, like, the sixth time, that's all IQ. You have to be your. Your brain and the way you think in the game is so ahead of the guys around you and the guys you're playing against that the plays you're making are. Are just so ahead that that's why he's not getting turned over. So I just think his hot iq, and it's not surprising that his IQ is so high, because my personal opinion, and I really stand on this pop is the greatest coach I played for, but the highest iq, then the smartest coach I played for is definitely Rick Carlisle. X's and O's is not even close.
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Podcast Host 4
Okay, but give us a for instance. Like, how do you come up or come to that conclusion.
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Clayton English
Perfect example. These days, as you know, the offense is created through a lot of handoffs, passes and comments, passes and screens. And normally it's the point guard to the guard. The point guard gets it back and gets the screen from the big man. Well, Rick put a wrinkle in, in the timeout in New York in for, for game one. Halliburton brought it up full court and instead of throwing it to the guard and getting the pick, he threw it to the big man. The guard picked and he ran off, got a running start and got a. It was an easy layup for the big man, but that was just a wrinkle Rick put in at a timeout that the Knicks wasn't prepared for and they got him an easy shot out of timeout.
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Podcast Host 4
Yeah, I've, I've known rick, gosh, probably 40 years when he was playing in college and then, you know, of course he was with the Celt and you know, I know we don't like to say this. Somebody got out coached. Does it hap. How often does it happen at this level where somebody is getting out coached?
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Clayton English
It happens a lot. But it really gets magnified in the postseason because each possession counts and each game is about making adjustments. I really seen it when we got into the brawl and I missed half the season and Ron missed the whole season. We came back and still made it to the second round. That was basically our Rick's rich coaching, having us prepared, knowing everything about the other team and to even. To get to the second round after everything we've been through that year. That's a big testament to how we was coached by Rick and Mike Brown.
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Podcast Host 4
How often do you get asked about the brawl with the pistol?
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Clayton English
Every 40 minutes, really. Everywhere I go to, people bring it up.
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Podcast Host 4
What do they say?
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Clayton English
Oh, man, I loved you in the bra, man. You did what you're supposed to do. Yeah, but they don't. You don't know about the 3 million I lost and how did the jacket I had on my back for the rest of my life. I hear it a lot, but it's, it's. Some people are kind of disrespectful for it when they say it. And some people are very respectful and I, and I can notice the difference. But I've done so much more than that in my life, you know. Yeah, I want to be known for being a lawyer guy. I will always be that. But, you know, I didn't move. I didn't move down from it.
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Podcast Host 4
Stephen Jackson, all The Smoke podcast. How often when Michael Jordan play pickup when you played for the Bobcats?
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Clayton English
When I was there two years. He did it twice. He actually came out there and played one on one with some guys. But one day he really tore into my butt and, and got in the practice, came to practice and want to make a statement to the team because we was kind of feeling ourselves and he showed up in practice one day and destroyed us. And me and him kind of had a verbal back and forth because I'm a competitor, but it didn't go the way I wanted it to.
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Podcast Host 4
Okay, when did, when did you know Mike was, was being serious, that he was, he was coming to play?
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Clayton English
When he showed up with practice with a practice with uniform on, that's when I knew he was serious. He showed up with some Jordan swords and he had a little, the little, the, the, the second team practice jersey on. That's when I knew it was a problem and that's when I knew he was mad.
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Podcast Host 4
Did you think he would respect. Like you don't want to talk to him?
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Clayton English
Yeah. Mike's human to me though. Like, you know, I'm, you know, even though he's my idol and I idolize him, he's the best ever. I, you know, if I get a chance to play against me and compete, I'm compete against anybody. I ain't gonna lie. If God challenged me to a one on one, I'm gonna try to beat him. You know, that's just the way I play. I love the game. I play with passion, you know, but, you know.
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Podcast Host 4
Are you talking about God? Sham God? Is that who you're talking about?
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Clayton English
I'm talking about the one and only God.
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Podcast Host 4
Oh, okay. All right. Because I might be able to take God, Sham God right now.
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Clayton English
Hey, I don't know, Sam. God been working for the Mavericks. He's still in good shape.
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Podcast Host 4
Do you think Michael could have still played in the NBA when, when he was there challenging you guys in practice?
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Clayton English
No, I think, I think, you know, for half court and the way we were practicing, we stayed on half court, we went to like eight points. It was better for him because he didn't have to get back up and down. I don't think he could, but you know, that's Michael Jordan, man. Anything he put his mind so he could, he did.
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Podcast Host 4
OKC is a defensive team. We, we don't, we tend not to highlight this. We want excitement, we want scoring up and down. If OKC is going to win a title, they're probably going to win it. Thanks to defense and what Shea Gilgis does. How would you describe OKC's approach?
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Clayton English
The only reason I have a championship right now, Dan, is because we had the number one defense in the league. Defense win championships. I think the teams. People don't people underrate defense. Defense says a lot of things. When you have the number one defense, when you have the number one defensive league and also the best team in the league, that says that your whole team is playing balls out. Your whole team is competing to the ultimate level. Everybody's out there trying to stop their man. Everybody's competing. They're on a string of defense. When one man gets beat, the other guy know where he has to be without even thinking about it. That's the teams that win championships. And this. This has been this team the last two years. One of the top defensive teams. I love it because scoring points these days in the NBA is easy. Because. Because you have so many guys that in the league today that are role players, they only can do one or two things. I've never seen up a time in the NBA where guys my size are strictly handoff and screen. Guys can't even shoot like my size. When I was playing, we were playing point guard, two guard, like so. So, like, the game has changed. So it's so easy. So when you see guys out there actually competing on defense, when. When guys don't in the league as much because this is a softer era, I love OKC and the way they're approaching it, and the reason why I think they have that San Antonio type approach. You know, this starts with Sam Presti. He put that team together. He started there, and he was there when I was in San Antonio, soaking everything up. So I can see why they're having this success.
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Podcast Host 4
How often did Pop yell at you in San Antonio?
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Clayton English
Probably every 10 minutes. I needed it, though. I needed it.
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Podcast Host 4
I remember Brent Berry telling me that when all else failed, he knew he was going to get yelled at by Play Coach Pop.
- [39:30]
Clayton English
Yeah. Hey, you know what? I. A lot of it was warranted because, you know, he was trying to. He's trying to make me a professional, but also make me a man, you know? And I was coming out the games thinking, I'm not gonna play basketball. Why am I coming out? This is the NBA, bro. You have to rest. You have to come out, you know, so it was a lot of things that I didn't understand as a young kid coming into the league, but Pop handled me right. Like a lot of times when I came out the game and I was Screaming and cursing. He wouldn't come down there. He'll send Mike Brown and Mike Brown just stand in front of me and let me curse him out and take it. I'll calm down. Then Papa put me back in the game later. But it worked. It worked a lot. But at the beginning, Dan, I was frustrated and cursing. Pop off didn't understand what he was doing.
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Podcast Host 4
We've come up with the hall of Very Good Players that, you know, like Joe Johnson's in the hall of Very Good. Jamal Crawford, hall of Very Good guys that aren't, probably aren't going to make the hall of Fame. Do you have any additions that you would like to add to the hall of Very Good?
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Clayton English
Well, it. So let me ask you this. They say the hall of Fame is your whole life of basketball, right. Not just your NBA career, right?
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Podcast Host 4
Yeah. College, international play.
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Clayton English
Yeah. And if you win championships on every level, you should be, you know, close to it. For me, personally, on the highest level, I mean, I, I won a championship on every, every level of basketball played from high school, Big three, NBA overseas, you name it. But as a peer of a lot of these guys, I feel like Stephon Marbury should be a Hall of Famer. I feel like Jermaine o' Neal should be a Hall of Famer. I feel like Ron, Ron Artest should be a Hall of Famer. Like all these guys, I'm saying, should be in already because of what they've done in the game. You know, we all know Ron had trouble. We know he made some mistakes, but he was defensive player of the year and we all know as peers, a clear mind. Ron could have been MVP and defensive player year of multiple years. You know, he just dominated. So I, I look at guys like even, you know, I wouldn't say he hall of Fame, but he's, he, he could have had a Hall of Fame career if he wouldn't have got hurt. Brandon Roy, somebody I speak highly of. So, like, I, I look at it different because my stats are better than mo cheeks, my career stats. He's in the hall of Fame. So, you know, I can compare my stats to some people in the hall of Fame. And so if I can compare myself, then why just got like Jermaine o' Neal, Rasheed Wallace, these type of guys, they should be shoe in because they were that dominant in the game.
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Podcast Host 4
Do you think you should be in the hall of Fame?
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Clayton English
No. No.
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Podcast Host 4
Okay. I love the honest answer.
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Clayton English
Yeah. No, I don't. I've had, I know I've had a better career And I've done better things in my life than some of the people in the hall of Fame as far as basketball wise. But me being in the hall of Fame now, I know. I know that bra and some of the, you know, that notch and the stuff. Some. Some of the stuff I've been into is a big knock, and they don't look at stuff like that. But to my peers, I hear from all my peers, I'm in the real brother hall of Fame, you know, I'll take that, boy.
- [42:36]
Podcast Host 4
Where. Where is the real brother hall of Fame? Where is that building?
- [42:40]
Clayton English
So that it's a group of brothers who all played in the NBA, who all got some type of ridicule by the NBA or mistreated or misunderstood by the NBA, but guys that could actually play the game, that won in the game. You know, I made a rookie all Star. I would have made all star games if I didn't get into that trouble, because I had great years. Six years, average of 20 plus. So it's just a group of brothers that all was misunderstood, that actually played the game well. Some of us have champions, some of us don't. But we all appreciate the road that we took to get where we at, you know, and all of us had a tough road to get there.
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Podcast Host 4
Latrell Sprewell is in that.
- [43:19]
Clayton English
He's definitely in it. Alan Iverson is the leader.
- [43:23]
Podcast Host 4
Iverson is. He's the president, and he's the president.
- [43:27]
Clayton English
Because 98 of the guys that's in that group. He showed all of us that we can be us without compromising who we are and still be successful. And it don't matter how you look, how you walk, how you talk, as long as you do your job. And Alison Allen Iverson showed me that that was the main reason why I was able to be myself and not compromise nothing. Yeah, I made mistakes, but I owned up to all of them, and I'm still me today. Adeline says, be yourself, because everybody else is already taken.
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Podcast Host 4
Good stuff, man. Congrats on the podcast.
- [44:02]
Clayton English
Thank you very much. It's been a blessing, man. Shout out Matt Barnes, Brian Daly, Jelani McCoy, all my partners, man, it's just been a blessing. Dan, I can't tell you all this, what happened. I just think, you know, I would always say good things happen to good people. I've been. I've been a lawyer guy my whole life to everybody. I played with a loving guy, done a lot for the communities and giving back. So I just think this is a way of God, of blessing me and giving me enough, another opportunity to do something great in my life.
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Podcast Host 4
Thank you man. I appreciate it. It's Stephen Jackson the Podcast. The award winning podcast is called all the Smoke was on there a couple of months ago. Matt Barnes and company. We'll take a break here. We'll get to some phone calls. Quinn Buckner, the Pacer announcer, will join us coming up top of the hour. We're back after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app T Mobile stats.
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Clayton English
Foreign.
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Podcast Host 1
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Podcast Host 2
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Podcast Host 1
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Podcast Host 2
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Podcast Host 1
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Dan Flores
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Podcast Host 4
I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here and I'll say it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves.
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Dan Flores
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Podcast Host 4
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Dan Patrick
I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes, but there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.
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Podcast Host 4
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Dan Patrick
But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.
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Dan Flores
Cops believed everything that Taser told them.
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Dan Patrick
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Podcast Host 3
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Podcast Host 4
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Dan Patrick
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Podcast Host 4
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Dan Patrick
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Podcast Host 4
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Dan Flores
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Podcast Host 4
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Flores
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Clayton English
Stomach, puncture my spleen, break my rib. I had my guts all in my.
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Dan Patrick
Hands only to find himself back where he started.
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Podcast Host 4
Roger's saying is, I've never hurt anybody but myself.
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Podcast Host 5
And I said, oh, you're so wrong.
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Podcast Host 4
You're so wrong on that one.
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Dan Patrick
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Podcast Host 4
Stephen Jackson, who spent 14 years in the NBA, he was also in an all star game, the McDonald's All Star Game. He was the leading scorer. Kobe was in that All Star Game. Tim Thomas was in that all star Game, and Stephen Jackson didn't win the mvp. Also, that quote is going to stay with me. I make love to pressure. I think his quote pretty hot. And if he was playing God, that he'd beat God one on one or at least. I think playing Michael Jordan is about as close as you're going. I'm going to get to that. I like how Mike comes out with practice gear and he's the owner of the Bobcats. He's got. I'm gonna teach you guys a lesson today. And ends up roasting him. All right, time to play the Kirk Cousins game. Do we have some music for the Kirk Cousins game?
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Podcast Host 3
Of course, Dan.
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Podcast Host 4
Here we go.
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Podcast Host 3
Here's the setup. Let's assume Kirk Cousins never takes another snap for the Atlanta Falcons.
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Podcast Host 4
Okay.
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Podcast Host 3
What will Kirk Cousins next team be? I would like to go first.
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Podcast Host 4
Okay. All right.
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Podcast Host 3
My choice is the LA Rams. Something could happen to their older quarterback. They're a very competitive team in a playoff picture almost every year. Kirk Cousins will be a Ram next.
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Podcast Host 4
All right, this is short notice, but, Todd, do you have an answer for Kirk Cousins next team will be. I'm gonna say the New Orleans Saints could use Kirk Cousins these days. All right, so they would trade him in the division.
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Podcast Host 1
Yes.
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Podcast Host 4
King Eddie's washed up. And then. Oh, not so fast, my friend. Okay. All right. Seaton. Kirk Cousins next team will be the.
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Podcast Host 5
Pittsburgh Steelers of Anaheim.
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Podcast Host 4
Okay, Marvin. The Indianapolis Colts. Dang. Those are. That's a good guess. I'm. I'm gonna say no to the Steelers because I think Aaron Rodgers is going there. I would have said the Browns, but they have a really crowded quarterback room right now. Although he would be the best quarterback in that quarterback room right now, I believe. Colts got Danny Dimes, though.
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Podcast Host 3
Not scaring anybody.
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Podcast Host 4
Yeah.
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Podcast Host 5
Oh, you look around that QB room, you're like, ah, man, second string it is, I guess, huh?
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Podcast Host 3
They can run well, those quarterbacks.
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Podcast Host 4
Oh, man. Oh, Minnesota.
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Podcast Host 3
Okay. Weird.
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Podcast Host 4
Minnesota.
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Podcast Host 3
It could be none of the above. He could retire.
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Podcast Host 4
They did bring out. Bring Sam Howell. Didn't they bring him as their backup quarterback to J.J. mcCarthy. Maybe they. They bring him back. He's going to have options. Yes, Todd. And Aaron Rodgers seems to be in the back of his mind waiting for some opportunity to go to the Vikings, it seems like just when the doors closed. And that's like that's always hovering a little bit, waiting for the Vikings. Yeah. And, and once again, the person I'm speaking to about Kirk Cousins, we're speculating that, that maybe he's sitting out, there's a reason, so it's not awkward and that, you know, Kirk Cousins will be traded. The question is, you know where and what's the compensation there? Are you picking up how much of that contract? And that's a hefty contract to pick up. All right, Quinn Buckner will join us. Buckner is prominently featured in the Celtics docu series and he tells a great story about his wife asking Larry Bird how confident he was going into Game 7 in 1984. Also, he was on the Celtics when Larry put up 60 against the Hawks when that was in New Orleans. And they're the Hawks benches high fiving one another when Larry's hitting shots against their, their teammates. Two hours in the books on this Wednesday. One more to go. Hope you'll stay with us next hour. We're back after this.
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Podcast Host 1
The Made for this Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well being, and then climb that mountain.
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Podcast Host 2
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Podcast Host 1
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Dan Flores
Why is a soap opera western like Yellowstone so wildly successful? The American west with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6, where we'll delve into stories of the west and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today.
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Podcast Host 4
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Dan Patrick
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Podcast Host 3
I get right back there and it's bad.
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Dan Patrick
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Clayton English
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Clayton English
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Clayton English
This is kind of star studded a little bit, man.
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Podcast Host 4
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Clayton English
It makes it real.
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Podcast Host 4
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Clayton English
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Dan Patrick
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