Dan Patrick (3:08)

Yeah, Dan. Well, for hour one, we had who had the best weekend. Gino Smith has zero votes.

Paul Pabst (3:15)

He didn't get one vote for going to the Raiders. Huh?

Dan Patrick (3:18)

Not one.

Paul Pabst (3:19)

All right, bringing up the rear. Okay. Not one vote.

Dan Patrick (3:22)

Guess people aren't that high in the Raiders either.

Paul Pabst (3:24)

Okay.

Dan Patrick (3:25)

But for hour two, kind of going off the Miles Garrett topic. True or false. Miles Garrett is only interested in getting the bag, not a ring.

Paul Pabst (3:33)

This is alotad. I. I can't do it where it's one or the other. Like, is he interested? Yes, he's interested in the money. But do I think that he wanted to go elsewhere? I do. I just don't think that they got offers. Maybe they didn't even entertain offers. So he has to save face now. Take care of me. I guess I'll. They had. Once again, they had to give Deshaun Watson a deal that he couldn't refuse. He ruled out the Cleveland Browns. I think he wanted to go to Atlanta, but he ruled them out. And then they said, what if we give you $230 million guaranteed? All of a sudden he wants to go to the Cleveland Browns. Miles Garrett is going to go from Cleveland to Canton to the hall of Fame. Do I think that he wanted to play meaningful games? Yes, I do. Now you go back. But. But this is. You weren't a good team last year with him. I, I think that they should have. Still. Now, you don't want to give him away, but you have to be open. I just think that that's. It's being irresponsible as a GM to not to at least listen. Now you might say no, we told him we weren't trading him. That's how much he means to us. Okay. You don't mean as much to him as he means to you. Because he wanted to leave. But I Get that. That you're going to be loyal. We can't. You don't want to be the GM who signed to Sean Watson and traded Miles Garrett. I understand that, but you owe it to your franchise, your fan base, to at least explore. And the teams that are going to be interested in trading for him could be Philadelphia, could have been Washington, could be Detroit. These are all good teams. They may give you three first round picks. I think they were looking maybe for four. Were you going to get a Herschel Walker deal? I don't think so. So now what do you do? You got Miles Garrett. Great. Now what? Nick Chub's not going to be there. Who's your quarterback? Jamis Winston, wide receiver. Like, what do you have here? I mean, is that your tune in factor? Hey, we got Miles Garrett, okay? You guys got dominated last year. The defense got dominated, okay? He's going to give you 15 sacks. Great. Now what happens on all the other plays and when the offense is on the field, it just. You're going to get out from underneath Deshaun Watson's contract. Now you just spend $40 million on a defensive player. You need help. I just think it's irresponsible for the Browns to put out a statement that says we're not trading him, and then not field calls. What happens if somebody says, we'll give you. And then you go, oh, like, there could be one of those moments there. But you could even say to Miles Garrett, hey, we tried. We just didn't get an offer that we thought was commensurate to your talent. You're going to be a Hall of Famer. We would hate to give you up, but only if it helps our franchise moving, you know, in the next decade, like in. In the right direction. And they didn't get that opportunity. A lot of times we overestimate what somebody's going to bring in return. Where you go, oh, they traded this guy and they got a fifth round draft pick. Wow. Oh, they. They gave up that guy. They got a fourth round draft pick in 2028. Like you. Just a lot of it is, take them. They cost too much money and we want something in return. And I think that's what happens a lot of times. Devonte Adams going to the Rams, I think is a great move. Great move, Seattle. I don't know what they're doing, but I'll give that front office the benefit of the doubt. They make good decisions. Do I want Geno Smith? No. But will I take him over the other quarterbacks that I have yes, he is an older quarterback, above average quarterback, but he gives us a little more stability. Are they still going to draft a quarterback? Are they going to draft Ashton Genty? That's what I was told over the weekend. And is this a Tom Brady call? Like, how much did Pete Carroll weigh in with Tom? I'm going to guess a lot. To say, let's bring in Gino. I can bring out the best in him. And if you're tomorrow, you probably are going, we gotta find a franchise quarterback here. Like, this is. This is basically a two year situation for us and also the coaches that have to win now. Now Pete Carroll at his age wants to win now. Now he's joining a team that's not very good. I don't know if he looks at this and says, let's develop a quarterback over the next couple of years. I mean, Pete is the oldest coach in the NFL. You also have the Giant situation. Do you want to bring in a rookie quarterback for a coaching staff that may not make it to the second half of the season? Do you want to bring in Aaron Rodgers, who does make you better, but only makes you better for a year? And that doesn't solve anything. Like, I'd rather grow with this. And we might not be a competitive team. Maybe we have a good draft pick next year. Aaron Rodgers can come in and all of a sudden it's, you know, like putting earrings on a pig. All right, still pig. And that's the situation here with the Giants, the Jets, what are they doing? What's their quarterbacking situation? The Steelers. You start to look at these teams and you go, okay, there's only so many quarterbacks to go around here, you know, do the jets go? Well, I don't know. Let's take Justin Fields. Okay. What did the Giants do? You going all in on Cam Ward? Okay, good luck. What's Pittsburgh doing? You don't have a quarterback under contract, but you just brought in DK Metcalf, Seattle, Sam Darnold. Like, what's plan B if you don't get Sam Darnold? What if the Colts say, you know what, we'd like to go after Sam Darnold, we admit we made a mistake on Anthony Richardson. You got a team that can win and can win 10 games. Now, do I think Sam Darnold is great? No. Do I think he played great? Yes, at times he did. The question would be, what's he costing me? Sam Darnold, $60 million. No, Sam Darnold, 45 million. Okay, we can have a conversation here. But he's still under 30. Is he still 27? He's been 27 for about four years. Yes. Marvin.

Dan Patrick (10:41)

Yeah, I think he turns 28.

Paul Pabst (10:42)

Oh, he does 29. It's always, I think he turns 29 in July. But Sam Darnold, he's 27. Oh, is he, is he gonna be 28, Paul 28 in July.

Dan Patrick (10:55)

He's been 27 for 18 months.

Paul Pabst (10:57)

How is that unbelievable? Yeah. So you have these moves here and then all of a sudden it gets official here, coming up at noon eastern of who's going where and then how's that set up for the draft? But yesterday was crazy. The NFL over the weekend, those are some big time moves. You got Josh Allen signing his contract extension. Metcalf goes to the Steelers, Devonte to the Rams. Miles Garrett staying. Geno Smith goes to the Rams. That's wild. So you got a 24 hour span where all of a sudden they go, let's see, have we dominated the headlines in a while? No, we haven't, Commissioner. All right, we will today then. 877-3-DP Show Email Address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter Handle @DP show so we got our poll question. We'll give you our best and worst of the weekend. LeBron got injured and you know, playing against the Celtics and Paulie, when we came in Today, Paulie goes, LeBron's injured groin is a good thing. I said, okay, save it. I said, don't even tell me what you're thinking until the show so I can react in real time. Here you go, Paulie. LeBron's groin injury is good for LeBron. Question mark.

Dan Patrick (12:19)

Absolutely. This is the perfect timing for a guy like LeBron who's 40, who plays a lot. He plays a lot in games and he plays a lot of games. He's not a load management guy like his other guys are. He is going to get a nice six game break here right before the playoffs. The other guys can get it together. No one's going to accuse him of sitting out. It's a real groin injury. I think he had like a sprained knee or something the year of the bubble. And he missed like six or seven games in April or late March. If he can get a week and a half off, it's almost, you know, I know a groin injury can nag, but I think actually this is a benefit for the Lakers. LeBron gets a week off without any questions about why he's taking the week off. Luka can take over for a little bit. The other backup Players can get a little more run. You go into the playoffs with, at worst, probably the fourth seed. It's a good injury, weirdly good take, bad take. Okay, you're not buying it. I love it. Well, I don't want it, but I like the byproduct of it.

Paul Pabst (13:15)

I guess the. The thing that would concern me is the type of injury that it is. Those things tend to stay. It's like a sprained ankle. They tend to stay. They linger a little bit. That'd be the only thing if you said, hey, LeBron's going to get some rest here. How's this affect your seating? That's really important. But also getting on a roll with Luca, and I know you don't want to peak too soon. And it felt like, boy, this team is now championship caliber, which I do think they are, but I think they are when they play defense. I know it's a caveat, an asterisk, but I have to put that in there. Healthy playing defense and defense comes down to. Do you want to play defense? They're all athletes, great athletes. Do you want to play defense? Can JJ get them to play defense? And if he can, with the firepower, then they're going to be a tough out. They can compete for a championship. But I think getting on that role, getting comfortable with, with the roles that you have, new roles that you have for some of these players, you know, that, that to me can be that, you know, we. We lost the opportunity when LeBron got hurt that can we improve? What's our matchup going to be in the playoffs? Who fits us better than some of these other team? You might have a dangerous team at seven or eight that you run into that you can avoid. Yes, Marvin.

Dan Patrick (14:37)

Yeah, I disagree completely. I think this is terrible for them because if they go on a six game skid, they're easily in the playing. They're only four games out of the playing tournament. So if LeBron's not there and they lose five out of six, they could be where the Timberwolves are.

Paul Pabst (14:54)

Yeah.

Dan Patrick (14:54)

And so now they got to play in the. Play in just to get into the regular playoffs. So hopefully Luca and those guys can, you know, try to at least stay above. Above water.

Paul Pabst (15:03)

I like that. Good take, bad take from the front row. Yes, Todd, that's what I was wondering too.

Dan Patrick (15:07)

Is that enough time that would throw off chemistry. I know he just got to the team recently, but a week or two could become a problem for them, and it'll take a while for them to get back into the groove together.

Paul Pabst (15:17)

LeBron and Luca, I don't know, they seem to be doing pretty good job. You know, it came back to LeBron makes. He makes this work. Luke is not changing who he is. LeBron can change who he is in accordance to what the team needs, but you got to play defense. The best performance over the weekend was Nikola Jokic. 31, 21, 22. And he did it on a Friday night and a win against the Suns. And, you know, he's not bothered by it. You know, Van Pelt interviewed him and basically this never happened in the history of the NBA. And he's like, yeah, well, I'm just glad we won the first 30, 20, 20 in NBA history. With 10 minutes to go in the third quarter, Joker had already recorded a triple double. From that point on, he had 18, 11 and 12. So he had two triple doubles in the same game. He had a triple double in a quarter and a half. This is the start of the day. Is that a double? Triple double?

Dan Patrick (16:41)

Yeah. Is that the term?

Paul Pabst (16:43)

I don't. I don't know. But he had two triple doubles in the same game. So it's a double. Triple double. Is that what you get at Wendy's? Oh, the double. Triple double, please.

Dan Patrick (16:55)

Special meal.

Paul Pabst (16:56)

Yes. Yes, Marvin.

Dan Patrick (16:57)

And he's still not going to win MVP.

Paul Pabst (16:58)

No, he's not. He's not. SGA had 40, so he's had at least 40 in three straight games. And yeah, I mean, he's going to win it. He's not the most valuable player, he's not the best player, but it's his time, his turn. That's it. Because, you know, Joker's having a better year than he had in his previous MVP years and probably means more to his team than SGA does to Oklahoma City. But I've been around long enough to know that, you know, I saw when Carl Malone won and when Charles Barkley won, and you could not convince me they were better than Michael Jordan or more valuable. But it was their turn. It was their time, and that's sga. And I do think that there's a groundswell with the analyst, former players who won SGA to win for whatever reason. You know, Oklahoma City is having a great year. Well, has anybody brought up Donovan Mitchell as an MVP candidate?

Dan Patrick (18:05)

No.

Paul Pabst (18:06)

Yeah. Why not?

Dan Patrick (18:09)

Because he's probably averaging 22 a game and SGA is averaging 30, 31. I think if Donovan Mitchell was the far and away leader because they. The Cavaliers seem like very equal. They seem like very balanced. They're very balanced team where it's this guy's averaging 20, this guy's averaging 21, this guy's averaging 17. So there's not just one standalone player on the Cavs.

Paul Pabst (18:32)

But we're talking about value. I know Donovan Mitchell. It's just because the Cavaliers don't get clicks. Nobody talks about them. Even now. It's like begrudgingly. They've won 14 in a row. You know what they've done. This start is historical. Mike, how many teams have had this winning percentage this deep into the season? Yes, Mark, they feel like the hawks.

Dan Patrick (18:58)

Maybe about 10 or 12 years ago when they won 60 games and they have four all stars. I think think LeBron just swept them out of the playoffs really fast after that. But they seem like a team that was very balanced and they had a bunch of guys averaging around 16 to 18, but no one took took them serious because they didn't have a super duper star.

Paul Pabst (19:16)

Yes, Paul.

Dan Patrick (19:17)

Yeah, Donovan Mitchell was probably more famous in Utah when He was averaging 27 and he's about to be a free agent. Everybody wanted him. His career is as a team player is going way better. But he's down to 24 points a game for him.

Paul Pabst (19:29)

Yeah, but I haven't heard anybody. It's basically SGA and then it'll be Joker and then it'll be people way down the list there. Yes.

Dan Patrick (19:39)

It's this show that's keeping the Cavs. We're keeping them afloat.

Paul Pabst (19:43)

Yeah, we talk about them. Yes.

Dan Patrick (19:45)

And we talk about Paulo Ben and the Rockets. Who talks more of random NBA than this broadcast.

Paul Pabst (19:53)

That's because I watch the NBA.

Dan Patrick (19:55)

Well, you're a junkie.

Paul Pabst (19:56)

These other hosts, they don't watch. They don't watch. They don't. I mean you got big time guys on TV or got guys on a roster that aren't even haven't been on the roster in a couple of years. You gotta watch. But they, you know, I, I'm here to cover the NBA, you know, instead of just saying let's just cover the Lakers. Love the Lakers situation, but you try to be fair to the other stories.

Dan Patrick (20:19)

Take a break.

Paul Pabst (20:20)

Here is Stephen A. Smith worth a hundred million dollars. We'll talk about that next. Dan Patrick Show. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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Paul Pabst (20:53)

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Paul Pabst (21:21)

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Dan Patrick (21:32)

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Paul Pabst (22:58)

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Dan Patrick (23:01)

We sift through, through innumerable accounts. 35 pages isn't very much, many of them conflicting. That's nonsense. There were 60 pages. And try to get to the truth of what really happened. And they said, we're finished. This is over.

Paul Pabst (23:14)

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Paul Pabst (24:01)

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Dan Patrick (24:02)

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Paul Pabst (26:23)

Our two poll question we have Fill in the Blank and Stephen A. Smith gets paid. I have that for you coming up. What is the hour two poll question, Dylan?

Dan Patrick (26:35)

So the hour two poll is Miles Garrett is only interested in getting the bag, not a ring.

Paul Pabst (26:39)

True or false?

Dan Patrick (26:41)

True is leading right now with 63% of the vote.

Paul Pabst (26:44)

Okay. Any other poll questions that we're considering? Todd usually has a handful.

Dan Patrick (26:51)

Yep. One moment, Dan.

Paul Pabst (26:53)

I have to go back into my records. Well, how about we just ask Todd who I had.

Dan Patrick (26:58)

True or false? The joker should win the NBA MVP again, but he won't. True or false?

Paul Pabst (27:03)

True. He's not going to win.

Dan Patrick (27:04)

I was going to say that, too.

Paul Pabst (27:05)

Thank you, Dylan.

Dan Patrick (27:07)

We also had how ready are you to fill out a March Madness bracket next week? Very moderately.

Paul Pabst (27:12)

Slightly? Not at all yet. I would say slightly.

Dan Patrick (27:16)

Yes, Paul, I'm not at all ready because I know nothing about any of the teams, but I'm very excited to do so, which is weird.

Paul Pabst (27:23)

What else, Todd? That's what I got. Oh, okay. All right, we'll play Fill in the blank. Let me start with Stephen A. Smith got Paid. I think it's. Is it a 5 year, 4 year, $100 million deal? Not sure the number of years there, but it is. He's kind of. He signed a Baker Mayfield kind of deal, I think. I mean, and that's still great for the mothership there. But what ESPN is doing, they have a couple of big names and they are going to spread them across all their platforms. You know, you're going to get rid of a great show like around the Horn, which is a shame, but it was expensive bringing in the journalist and everybody wanted to get paid, which you could still do it. You just tell them, you know, we're going to pay you in TV time, but they'll do something in house here. It feels like the, you know, the players that they have with Pat McAfee, with Stephen A, Mike Greenberg, Scott Van Pelt, to a lesser degree. But you. You're going to have your four or five people that you're going to spend a lot of money on. You're going to ask them to host a lot of different shows, contribute to a lot of different shows. You know, Van Pelt, Monday Night Countdown, Greeny doing Sunday Countdown, doing his show on Get Up. Stephen A. Is going to be spread all across the network. McAfee does a lot of things, not only a show, but also college game day. This is what their model is now. You know, they finally came around to realizing, take care of your talent. And they never did that before because they kind of fought talent. They thought that the four letters were more important. And in today's social media age, you don't need to watch SportsCenter anymore. When I was there, we were fortunate. You tuned in to watch the highlights. Now it's, we know what the results are. Now, how are you going to tell us or explain or give us, you know, your opinions on that? Now is when you earn your money by being different than anybody else. And there's only a couple of people in our business who move the needle. You know, Stephen A. McAfee, Charles Barkley, they're polarizing, but you tune in to hear what they have to say. Greenie is not. Greeny is. He lands planes extremely well. He's very versatile, Van Pelt, you know, very versatile. You know, those guys are great at hosting big events, but you only have a couple of those people at the mothership anymore. But this is by design. They'd rather spend this kind of money and get rid of some of these ancillary shows. You get people who will work there because it's espn. You're not going to pay them. There's always. You run the risk of being laid off, which they tend to do every couple of years. But Stephen A, you know, there's a guy, I mean, he moves the needle more than Tony Romo does. I mean, he got into it with LeBron. Like, you know that you're. You're penetrating, you know, the media. He made news. Now it's not pretty news, but, you know, ESPN doesn't care, and he doesn't care. Like, LeBron is challenging you about, you know, keep my son's name out of your mouth. Don't be talking about Bronnie. You just want. You want people to tune in. You want CLICKS. That's it. And you know, when Mike and Tony are done, then they'll get rid of or, you know, pardon the interruption, but they're still, that's. They do a really good number. They get a lot of people tuning in. Very loyal audience there. But this is where ESPN is going. ESPN is not concerned about Fox Sports at all. THEY LAUGH I've been hearing about Fox Sports competing with ESPN since I was there. And you go back to the mid-90s, late-90s, we're like, we're not afraid. We don't care what you do. You'll never, ever supplant espn. And they have it. They haven't even come close. Now, it doesn't mean they can't have good shows. But ESPN is going into a new era where this is what their business model is and it's tune in factor for some shows or video clips that are going to go social, you know, media go viral. That's it. So good for Stephen A. Now, I don't know what his leverage was. Like, where's he going? Oh, we could lose him to Fox. So what? Who cares? Nobody. You know, they're not. Yeah. Now if you put Skip and Stephen A back together, then maybe. But if he went, you know, Stephen A got let go by ESPN years ago. He was doing a radio show prior to this one. He was gone and then he came back and then he, you know, became Stephen A. Smith again. But he was gone. Like ESPN was, like, we don't need you, we'll move on. Because ESPN at the time didn't need him. Now they do. Now they're desperate and they realize there's not a lot of talent out there that will move the needle, like Troy Aikman, Joe Buck. All right, social media wise, but I'm still tuning into a football. Like, to me, that's the wasted money. An analyst. I'm still watching the game. You may not be a great analyst. I'm still watching the game. I got no other choice. But if you're going to tune in to First Take or you're going to tune into Pardon the Interruption, I mean, you're tuning in because the people who were on that show, those shows, and that's the difference. The football game. Chris Collinsworth could be doing it or, you know, it could be Charles David, it doesn't matter. Now, are there certain analysts who are better? Name recognition? Yes, but I don't know if that translates to ratings. John Madden and Howard Cosell probably translated into ratings, but in that, I don't think we get caught up in. I've got to watch that or listen to that. Dick Vital was always on the biggest games. Put him on, you know, Wisconsin, Green Bay against Oakland, and let me see if that improves the ratings. You may stay with it longer, but I don't know if it matters. Stephen A. McAfee, you know, you stay with them, you tune in for them. Maybe not as much Greeny and Van Pelt, but still, they're recognizable. Really good broadcasters, really good hosts. The other two guys are content guys who are going to move the needle. They're polarizing. Yes.

Dan Patrick (34:03)

It appears with this new deal that Stephen A. Smith will be added to the football coverage at espn. Would you hesitate to add him to the booth for Monday Night Football? I don't know if.

Paul Pabst (34:12)

Oh, no, no, he's not going in the booth.

Dan Patrick (34:14)

Not the booth.

Paul Pabst (34:15)

No, no, no.

Dan Patrick (34:16)

I know. I was. I agree with you.

Paul Pabst (34:18)

Oh, no, no, no. Why would you disrupt the booth with Troy Aikman and Joe Buck?

Dan Patrick (34:22)

Have a history of doing that.

Paul Pabst (34:23)

Yeah, well, that's when they're stupid. No, no, no, no.

Dan Patrick (34:27)

Just wondering.

Paul Pabst (34:27)

No, no, no, no, no, no. I would. If you want to put him on Countdown, great. I mean, I wouldn't do that. The NBA. I wouldn't put him on with Barkley and those guys, but they're going to. This is what ESPN does. They oversaturate. And I would have Stephen A. Do what? Stephen. Not kind of blast him all over the network, but that's, you know, that's the direction they're going in because they're going to say, hey, we're paying you this money. We need you. And look, he shows up at fights, you know, I mean, everything. I mean, he shouldn't be on all those platforms, but he is. Yes.

Dan Patrick (35:09)

Mark, if you're espn, how many shows do you put them on full time? Do you put them on just first taken. Maybe an occasional NBA Countdown or, like, how do you do it?

Paul Pabst (35:19)

You gotta. You gotta get your money's worth.

Dan Patrick (35:23)

So he's doing a daily car wash.

Paul Pabst (35:24)

They're not gonna do less, they're gonna do more.

Dan Patrick (35:27)

Well, I was asking if you were the boss.

Paul Pabst (35:30)

Well, I wouldn't pay him that money, but, you know, that's just because I would say I want you to be great on these. These two shows. Not, we're paying you all this money now. You got to be on all these shows. Like, I want his voice to be unique. I want McAfee's voice to be unique. Not, you know, you're in the car wash and you're on 15 shows. Yes. D. Do you think part of the.

Dan Patrick (35:53)

Reason they were comfortable giving him that much money is because he's willing to do literally every single show there. They're like, here's a big check, but we'll squeeze every last drop.

Paul Pabst (36:04)

I mean, he's a worker. He does. He wants to be on tv, and they love this. He's doing a podcast, maybe running for president. I don't know. But. But he does love that. There's certain people who just, like, I didn't love being on tv. I didn't. There's certain people who just eat it up. They want camera time. And he certainly loves the camera time, but he's good at what he does. Really. He's good at what he does. But LeBron confronting him at a Laker game, basically, this is just about, I'm a dad, keep my sons. You know, when Stephen A. Dramatically said, lebron, don't do this to your son. Don't do this. And I'm like, oh, my God. Quiet. We don't need this. But look, it got a lot of play. They got a lot of coverage. And now you get LeBron, who confronts him and says, you know, keep my son's name out of your effing mouth. All right, that got real. And I, I. You know, Stephen A's job is to cover the NBA now. He doesn't have to do it, you know, breathlessly about LeBron's son, because now you're part of the covers now. There's no There. I shouldn't say no.

Dan Patrick (37:25)

There's no.

Paul Pabst (37:26)

There's very little journalism anymore at espn, you know, most places, I should say, not just espn, but you can't be part of the story. You shouldn't be part of the story. But LeBron made him part of the story. His reaction to Bronnie being embarrassed instead of being anal analytical with this, instead of, you must protect your son. Did he do the same thing for Michael Jordan's son who was arrested and driving under the influence? And the answer is, no, he did not. Bronnie is an easy target with what LeBron did to get him in the league. I get all those things, but it's just a different world now. It. It just is. But it's about entertainment. Journalistic standards maybe, but Entertainment 100, that's. That's the direction we're going in. And maybe they build a successful model. You know, everybody's cutting the cord, cable cord here, I believe. You know, you're not watching SportsCenter. You watch highlights you get a video, you know, that goes viral, that's it. I mean, it's tough to be a sports center anchor now, I think, because what are you doing with the results? And Van Pelt does a good job with that to spin it forward. Mike Greenberg in the morning. What are you doing with the news? Spinning it forward, putting your stamp on it. SportsCenter, we're just doing the highlights.

Dan Patrick (38:58)

Yeah, Pauline, I will say Van Pelt's version of SportsCenter as more of a hang. You hang with him and he does the highlights like you did. But he also does some fun stuff that makes it a tune in factor. When I see it on, I stick with a little longer. I do remember when we worked there when it was early Stephen A. Smith and he filled in for you once and you were off for a day. He comes over and he was super nice. He was very thankful for all the prep we gave him. He was whisper quiet in the pre show meetings and it was whisper quiet. And he puts his hand on my shoulder right before he got on there he goes. Because I was, you know, he hadn't hosted a lot of radio shows before by himself. And he goes, just tell me when my mic is hot and tell me when to go to break. Yes, I'll take it from there. And next thing you know, you gave him the point. He goes, the brother's taking. And he just hit the gas for three hours. And I couldn't believe how he held it up for three hours and kept it going for three hours. And then as soon as he went to break. How was that? Was that good? And he had totally different.

Paul Pabst (39:53)

All right, we'll take a break. We'll get to more phone calls. Best and worst of the weekend, we will play Fill in the blank. Coming up next, be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. In the iHeartRadio app, it's Julie Stewart Banks.

Dan Patrick (40:12)

I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League and I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson. I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share and believe it or not, I have plenty to say and not just about hockey. Believe me, he does Energy Line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast and it's gonna be, well, it's going to be quite the ride. We're officially line mates, Nate. We're the energy line. We'll have plenty of folks. Join us, current players, some of my former teammates, hall of Famers. And wait till you see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex. Okay. We'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey and try to do what energy lines are supposed to do, provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate? I'm vibing Julie. I'm ready to roll. Listen to Energyline with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Mark Seale. And I'm Nathan King. This is Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli. The five families did not want us to shoot that picture. Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli is based on my co host Mark's best selling book of the same title. And on this show we call upon his years of research to help unpack the story behind the Godfather's birthday. From start to finish, this is really.

Paul Pabst (41:32)

The first interview I've done in bed.

Dan Patrick (41:35)

We sift through innumerable accounts. 35 pages isn't very much, many of them conflicting. That's nonsense. There were 60 pages. And try to get to the truth of what really happened. And they said, we're finished.

Paul Pabst (41:46)

This is over. It's not going to work.

Dan Patrick (41:49)

You got to get rid of those guys. It's a disaster. Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli features new and archival interviews with Francis Ford Coppola, Robert Evans, James Caan, Talia Shire, and many others. Yes, that was a real horse's head. Listen and subscribe to Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Something about Mary Poppins. Something about Mary Poppins. Exactly. Oh, man, this is fun. I'm AJ Jacobs and I am an author and a journalist and I tend to get obsessed with stuff and my current obsession is puzzles. And that has given birth to my podcast, the Puzzler. Dressing. Dressing.

Paul Pabst (42:35)

French dressing.

Dan Patrick (42:36)

Exactly. That's good. Now you can get your daily puzzle nuggets delivered straight to your ears. I thought to myself, I bet I know what this is. And now I definitely know what this is. This is so weird. This is fun. Let's try this one. Our brand new season features special guests like Chuck Bryant, Mayim Bialik, Julie Bowen, Sam Sanders, Joseph Gordon Levitt and lots more. Listen to the Puzzler every day on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. That's awful and I should have seen it coming. Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia. I'm excited to introduce a brand new season of my podcast, Math and Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing. I'm having conversations with some interesting folks across a wide range of industries to hear how they reach the top of their fields and the lessons they learned along the way that everyone can use. I'll be joined by innovative leaders like Chairman and CEO of Elf Beauty, Tarang Amin. The way I approach risk is constantly try things and actually make it okay to fail. I'm sitting down with legendary singer, songwriter and philanthropist Jewel. I wanted a way to do something that I loved for the rest of my life.

Paul Pabst (43:56)

We're also hearing how leaders brought their.

Dan Patrick (43:59)

Businesses out of unprecedented times, like Stephane Bonsell, CEO of Moderna.

Paul Pabst (44:04)

It becomes a human decision to decide to to throw by the window your.

Dan Patrick (44:08)

Business strategy and to do what you think is the right thing for the world. Join me as we uncover innovations in data and analytics, the math, and the ever important creative spark, the Magic. Listen to math and magic stories from the frontiers of Marketing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What if you ask two different people the same set of questions? Even if the questions are the same, our experiences can lead us to drastically different answers. I'm Minnie Driver and I set out to explore this idea in my podcast, Mini Questions. Over the years, we have had some incredible guests. People like Courteney Cox, star of the infinitely beloved sitcom Friends, EGOT winner Viola Davis, and former prime minister of the UK Tony Blair. And now Mini Questions is returning for another season. We've asked an entirely new set of guests our seven questions, including Jane Lynch, Delaney Rowe and Cord Jefferson. Each episode is a new person story with new lessons, new memories and new connections to show us how we're both similar and unique. Listen to Mini questions on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 7 Questions Limitless Answers Couple of teams.

Paul Pabst (45:30)

Schools punch their ticket March Madness Drake beat Bradley. Fourth trip to the NCAA Tournament in the last five seasons. Over the last five seasons, Drake's winning percentage is second only, third only to Houston and Gonzaga. They're the only ones who over the last five years have a better record than Drake does. Stat of the Day Stat of the Day of the Day. Stat of the Day.

Dan Patrick (46:02)

Here comes that.

Paul Pabst (46:03)

What Stat of the Day. Stat of the Day Brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the program. This portion of the hour. Brought to you by tirerack.com official tire expert of the DP Show. Go to tirerack.com dan try the tire decision guide. Full lineup of Falcon tires, special offers, free road hazard protection, mobile tire installation, tire rack.com the way tire buying should be. All right, some phone calls coming up. Best and worst of the weekend. Also, we'll play fill in the blank, which you just fill in the blank. We'll have that for you, Charlie and Dayton. Hey, Charlie. Best and worst of the weekend, Dan, real quick.

Dan Patrick (46:48)

As a Bengals fan, I just got to do something I didn't think I'd ever do is defend Jimmy Browns. Because even though it hasn't.

Paul Pabst (47:00)

Got a bad connection, Charlie got a bad connection. Otis in Idaho. Hey, Otis, what's on your mind?

Dan Patrick (47:08)

Hey, Dan.

Paul Pabst (47:09)

How you doing? Today recorded.

Dan Patrick (47:12)

Where were you? In Santa Barbara, drinking wine. Because I was born and raised in Santa Barbara and I grew up in the Santiaz Valley. Were you there in a Santinez Valley, drinking wine there?

Paul Pabst (47:21)

Yes, I was. And why is this phone call being recorded, Otis?

Dan Patrick (47:26)

Because my kids love the show. When I drive them to the school.

Paul Pabst (47:29)

In the morning, I just want to.

Dan Patrick (47:30)

Know that I'm on the show. And we like singing the song Salary sounds like celery, but it's salary. We sing in the car when you.

Paul Pabst (47:38)

Play it, the kids love it. Why don't you tape your kids singing Celery and then we'll play it on the show?

Dan Patrick (47:45)

I will do that.

Paul Pabst (47:46)

I'll send an answer. Yes, I was up in that area doing wine tasting. So it is it Los Olivos, and it's small town, and I was up there. A lot of. A lot of farmland, a lot of vineyards as well. But went down to Santa Barbara, got to see a concert on Saturday night and went to Montecito and a few other places there. Just a short trip. And I think I could live there. Not. Not in Montecito or Santa Barbara. I mean, I'd want to live out there. There's so many. I mean, get some land out there, start my vineyard, start my winery.

Dan Patrick (48:30)

One of those hats, those sun hats.

Paul Pabst (48:32)

Yes, Dylan, you just want to live on a vineyard? Yeah, yeah, basically. Yeah. It's farm to table, you know, that's kind of what I would be doing with the wine.

Dan Patrick (48:43)

Wine to mouth.

Paul Pabst (48:44)

Yes. I'd be stomping on grapes. Alrighty. Do you know how to treat a groin injury? I've had a pole groin, but it was in high school. No, no jokes, Todd.

Dan Patrick (48:57)

I thought you were setting us up for some time.

Paul Pabst (48:59)

No, no, no.

Dan Patrick (48:59)

You know how to treat a groin injury?

Paul Pabst (49:01)

Yeah, I think there's a. There's a few different ways. So I gave Paulie an assignment during the commercial break. I said, would you explore how to treat a groin injury?

Dan Patrick (49:13)

Dan, I've been waiting for this assignment for years. There are three levels of groin injury. One is mild, two is moderate. Three is severe and could include tearing. Now, if it's not level three, Rest, ice, compression, elevation. The old Rice method. Rest the muscle immediately. Ice pack 15 minutes every hour for the first day. Compression. You should wrap it with one of those ace bandages and keep it wrapped except when you're icing it. And then elevation. Lift your leg above your lower body and above the level of your heart. Support with pillows, blankets or cushion. Rice. Rest, ice, compression, elevation.

Paul Pabst (49:48)

Okay, all right. Time to do fill in the blank or do you want to do Best and worst of the weekend?

Dan Patrick (49:55)

Your call.

Paul Pabst (49:56)

My call. That is my show. That's right, Todd. Best and worst of the weekend.

Dan Patrick (50:02)

Best of the weekend. A pair of college basketball road wins at the buzzer and OT on Saturday. Referred to one of them earlier. 7th ranked Alabama wins at number one. Allburn on a jumper 9,391. St. John's number six ranked team gets the victory at number 20. Marquette 8,684. Both road buzzer beaters in overtime. So that was exciting. Worst of the weekend. If you're a Yankees fan, Garrett Cole needed imaging on his right elbow. Concerned about how much time he may have to miss. May need Tommy John surgery. Also, Jim Carlos Stanton says his elbow injuries are severe. He could possibly get season ending surgery.

Paul Pabst (50:32)

On that elbow disaster there. You know, they sign you sign these guys long term, especially a pitcher. No, no. Garrett Cole can be a great pitcher, but he's a pitcher. Dylan Best and worst.

Dan Patrick (50:51)

All right. Dan Best, Russell Henley winning the Arnold Palmer Invitational. The late Chip in eagle comes from behind the beat Morikawa and walks with 4 million. And the cool red cardigan. And worst of the weekend is I did not bet on him.

Paul Pabst (51:06)

Yeah, I thought you were a Russell Henley guy.

Dan Patrick (51:09)

I've dabbled in the Russell Henley field.

Paul Pabst (51:11)

I don't think it's a. It's a red cardigan. Isn't it a tartan jacket?

Dan Patrick (51:16)

Is that the, the technical term? It's a sweater with buttons on it, so.

Paul Pabst (51:19)

Oh, I, I thought there was a tartan jacket that you got for winning the Arnie the Tart.

Dan Patrick (51:25)

That's. Is that the. Or the like Wells Fargo or one of those they give out a bunch of clothing items.

Paul Pabst (51:32)

I thought that was I. Okay, now, Arnie looked dashing in a cardigan, but I. I thought there was a tartan jacket involved in this. Marvin, best and worst of the weekend.

Dan Patrick (51:43)

All right, Dan, best of the weekend. Future hall of Famer Al Horford. 14 points, nine rebounds, three steals, and a block. He had great individual defense. The Lakers tried to put him on the island, but he was shutting everybody down. So good for the future hall of Famer Al Horford. Worst of the weekend in the same game, the Lakers, third quarter.

Paul Pabst (52:00)

Yeesh.

Dan Patrick (52:01)

Five for 23 from the field, six turnovers, one for 10 from three point range as the Celtics pulled away in a third.

Paul Pabst (52:08)

All right, Paul, best and worst of the week.

Dan Patrick (52:10)

Just confirming it is a red cardigan for the Arnold Palmer. I'm checking. There's another April event where it's a red blazer type.

Paul Pabst (52:17)

Oh, is that Hilton Head?

Dan Patrick (52:19)

Yes, that's the rbc.

Paul Pabst (52:20)

Oh, they get the tartan, which stands.

Dan Patrick (52:22)

For red blazer competition.

Paul Pabst (52:24)

Yeah, because I would much rather have the cardigan than the tartan jacket. Oh, yeah, because I remember Alabama coach Wimps. Wimp Sanderson used to have a tartan jacket like that.

Dan Patrick (52:36)

All right, Paul, best of the weekend. Men's college basketball this weekend. I was watching Furman, Chattanooga, utsa, Charlotte. It's a great month ahead. Can't wait. Worse than the weekend you mentioned earlier, if the Browns did not actually shop Myles Garrett. They're irresponsible. It reminds me of five years ago, the. The Los Angeles Angels not shopping Mike Trout and just burning the peak years of his career and maybe doing something. You're not competing for anything. Why would you keep the peak years of miles career, make it more expensive and compound the problem?

Paul Pabst (53:07)

I ran into somebody who went to Furman and he had a shirt that said fu. And I didn't realize that he went to Furman, but it's Furman University. And I said, wow, people probably respond to you. And he goes, why? I said, wait, your shirt says f you? And he goes, yeah, I went to Furman University. What were you thinking? I'm like, oh, I see what you did. F you. Coming up, we'll play fill in the blank. More phone calls as well. On this Monday, best and worst of the weekend.

Dan Patrick (53:39)

What's up, everyone? It's Greg Rosenthal, and I'm teaming up with the king of spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that we're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season. From DJs mock drafts to my top 101 free agents. We'll have it covered for you with all new episodes every Thursday keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL Draft. Listen to 40s and free agents starting on March 6th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What's up everyone? Julie S.W. binks here, along with former NHL player Nate Thompson. We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go. The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb. Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right? Exactly. And you'll never know who will drop by to join us. Julius pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe. Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What if you ask two different people the same set of questions? Even if the questions are the same, our experiences can lead us to drastically different answers. I'm Minnie Driver and I set out to explore this idea in my podcast and now Mini Questions is returning for another season. We've asked an entirely new set of guests our seven questions, including Jane Lynch, Delaney Rowe and Cord Jefferson. Listen to Mini questions on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 7 Questions Limitless Answers I'm Mark Seal. And I'm Nathan King. This is Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli. The five families did not want us to shoot that picture. This podcast is based on my co host Mark Seal's best selling book of the same title. Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli features new and archival interviews with Francis Ford Coppola, Robert Evans, James Caan, Talia Shire and many others. Yes, that was a real horse's head. Listen and subscribe to Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ever wonder what it would be like to be mentored by today's top business leaders? My podcast this Is Working can help with that. Here's some advice from J. Diamond, the CEO of JPMorgan Chase, on standing out from the leadership crowd. Develop your EQ A lot of people have plenty of brains, but EQ is do you trust me?

Paul Pabst (56:05)

Do I communicate well?

Dan Patrick (56:06)

Develop the team, develop the people, create a system of trust. And it works over time. I'm Dan Roth, LinkedIn's editor in chief. On my podcast this Is Working. Leaders share strategies for success. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.