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The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. Marvin's here, Paulie's here. Yours truly and the back room guys spent a lot of time, first hour talking about the trade. I wonder if this is going to be hey, do you know who the Milwaukee Bucks got for Kareem Abdul Jabbar when they traded him away or Wilt Chamberlain, you know one of those. Where do you remember who was that guy that they got from Green Bay? Oh, yeah, they got a couple of draft picks. Cause sometimes, you know, we move on and we forget, oh, who did they get like Jamal Adams when the jets got three first round picks. Garrett Wilson was one of those guys that they got in return. The fact that Jamal Adams can command three first round picks and Micah Parsons gets two first round picks and Kenny Clark and it feels like the attention, the spotlight is on the Cowboys like it always is. But you know, the packers, they're not going to change alter their, you know, ticket prices this year, maybe next year. But you just went from being plus 200, 2000 to win the Super bowl to plus 1200. And you were plus 1100 to win the NFC now plus 600. You got quarterbacks in that division. I mean that is a very, very competitive division that is rivaling what you have in the AFC West. We don't know what we have in Caleb Williams or J.J. mcCarthy. Jared Goff has proven to be a high end quarterback. Jordan Love has had his moments. He was banged up last year, but this is a, this was a dangerous team. Now you got a team that is going to be one of the on the short list of super bowl favorites. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, that's our streaming partner. Download the app if you haven't done so. And we say good morning to our radio affiliates around the country. It is a meat Friday in case you're wondering what's on the menu. Dylan is doing double duty here by sitting in Seaton's chair. He has to come up with a poll question as well. We have smoked brisket it's been smoking for over 12 hours. We also have Capri say salad, coleslaw, potato salad. Who has it better than we do? No body Cowboys don't have it better than we do. Todd Archer, ESPN NFL Nation reporter covering the Cowboys since 2003. Well, I didn't think we would get here, but we got here. How did we get here, Todd? You know, Jerry Jones has a line that he likes to use where he says, don't let your money get mad. I think his money got mad in this situation when he wasn't able to work out the contract with directly with Micah Parsons. There were no negotiations after that, no offers sent from the team to the agent, nothing from the agent back to the team. And they, Micah side made one last push at the start of the week or the end of last week to say, hey, can we get going on this, let's do a deal. And Jerry flat out told him, no, you're playing on the fifth year option and then we'll see what happens after the season we'll franchise tag you. That kind of set all the balls in motion towards this trade. We with Green Bay, a number of suitors that we were told were involved. The Cowboys were kind of limited to who they could be because that team needed cap room, that team needed a defensive player they could get in return. And it came together pretty quickly once the packers were able to come to the agreement with Parsons on the long term contract. But Todd, let's go back to March. If you know you're not going to sign him, at least create some leverage, a bidding war going into the draft. That's what I don't understand. If he does then, then maybe I understand the rationale. But still you traded away, you know, one of the five best defensive players in the game and you know, trajectory for the hall of Fame, you get Kenny Clark, who's over 30, and you get two late first round picks more than likely. I just don't understand how Jerry can with a straight face say the team is better now today than it was yesterday. Well, they're better for the playoffs. He didn't say they were when they were going to make the playoffs, I guess, right, if it would be this year or not. But, but I asked Jerry that question. If you knew in the beginning of April that you had this pushback on the agreement that you and Micah had from the agent, why didn't you make the deal before the draft when you had the opportunity to help your team more theoretically in 2025 by getting a player in multiple Draft picks and as well. So. And his answer was convoluted. And Jerry like. And I really don't know what it was, but Stephen Jones said, well, the draft is in April too. This was the beginning of the month and the end of the month. You had at least three weeks where you could have worked that out and got into a deal. They chose not to do it. They went this route, and in their mind, this is the best that they could do right now. And they knew that if Micah Parsons wasn't going to play Week 1 against Philadelphia, that it would have been a situation that would have been onerous for the entire year. And they didn't want to put Brian Schottenheimer in part in that situation. But we've talked about this before. If the Cowboys have a traditional general manager who has power, who has teeth, do we get to this point in this, you know, situation where you're partying with Micah Parsons? Well, I think in that situation, the owner says, hey man, too bad. Work it out. You know, that's what the owner would say because you, you can't convince an owner who's not the general manager that that team would be better without Micah Parsons that particular season. So that's where the, the. Everybody who says Jerry needs to fire the gm. Well, this is the case where the GM didn't have an owner telling them what to do either. I just wonder the role that Stephen Jones played in this because Jerry loves to be a buddy to the players, is. Is Steven. Are Steven's fingerprints on this that he might have been the one that, you know, convinced Jerry to trade away Micah Parsons? I wouldn't cast the blame on Stephen Jones. Jerry told us that this was a unanimous decision from everybody in the organization that they talked to, including some players. Players are on the leadership council. When we met yesterday. Now I get it. It's easy to say, of course everybody's going to tell Jerry, yeah, let's go ahead and do this if that's what Jerry wanted to do. Wait, wait. There were players on the Cowboys who co signed on this to get. To move on from Micah Parsons. That is what Jerry told us yesterday, that they're a player. They have a leadership council. Players were contacted and they were. They understood it as well. Whether they were okay with it, maybe a distinction without difference, but they were. They were understanding why the Cowboys had to make the movement. And look there. There have been teammates in Mike has passed and even probably some in the present that have been annoyed might be the best word by some of the things that he's done. And they all might be little things to some degree. Not putting Dak Prescott in as one of the top quarterbacks in the NFL on your podcast, not working the hardest on the practice field, showing up to the game the other night, eating nachos, lying down on the medical table. All that stuff might be little stuff, but when you start adding all that stuff together, I think teammates again, for sure. Some former guys were just annoyed at times by Micah. Great. But they always understood his production on the field is what mattered most. Thank you, Todd. I know you're busy. Thanks for joining us. Thanks. Todd Archer, ESPN NFL Nation reporter, covering the Cowboys since 2003. Yeah. You're trying to figure this out. Where you go? Okay, this makes a lot of sense. Sure. We're a better team today. It goes back to when Jerry said they were all in. Like, all in one. Like, all in a pile of bleep. Like, what are you all in on? Yeah, Pauline, I saw your reaction when Todd Archer said that players on the whatever competition committee that they have agreed with this trade. And Jerry Jones said that to the media. Do you believe that? I mean, I'm going to take Todd at his word, but I can't imagine Dak Prescott or CD Lamb if they're part of the leadership committee. Hey, hell yeah, get rid of him. Let's get worse. I get. I don't understand it. Look, there are personalities that you have to put up with, and you balance that by production and personality. It's like Draymond Green. I would have moved on from Draymond Green. I don't want to deal with that personality anymore when he was great. Okay, I can deal with the personality. Did Micah Parsons get to the point. And I know he wasn't universally loved inside that building. He was not. And yes, he has a big mouth. They know all of these things. If you know all of these things and how much they're going to cost you, then trade him. Trade him in March or April, not now. Rob Demofsky. He's been covering the packers since 1997. ESPN NFL Nation reporter, what was your reaction to this trade? Dan, as the week began, earlier in this week, you sort of had an inkling that this might be a real possibility. In fact, on the day after the cuts, I asked a couple players in the locker room about it. And one of those guys being all pro safety Xavier McKinney, who just so happens to have the same agent as Micah Parsons. It was not a coincidence that I went up to him. But Xavier first, he Looked at me and said, I'm not talking about that. And I'm like, but you know him, right? He goes, I know him. He's a great dude. And that's about all I can say right now. And he smiled at me. I mean, you know, again, at that point, we weren't 100% sure that the packers were involved or that the Cowboys were even listening. We know now that they have been listening for a little while. And I can tell you this, Dan, from a Packer standpoint, this all started a week or so ago, maybe a little longer. And Brian Good is the general manager. This is what I was told. Walked into Matt LaFleur's office and asked his coach, would you want Micah Parsons? And LaFleur goes, well, of course. And then it took off from there. How does this not work out for the Packers? You know, if, obviously if Parsons gets hurt, you know, it's a, it's a disaster. Right, because you paid him all this money. You don't have your draft picks. You know, as long as Micah Parsons is the Micah Parsons that we've seen for the last four years, I mean, this is a team, Dan, that has not had a player, a single player with double digit sacks in a season since the year before Micah Parsons came into the NFL. Their last double digit sack guy was the Darius Smith. And I believe it was 2020. You know, Rashawn Gary is a former first round pick, a good pass rusher that they then gave a second contract to, but quite frankly has not been as good as they would have hoped. I'm sure they think the addition of Micah Parsons not only gives Micah, it gives them Micah Parsons, but it also takes some of the double teams and the attention away from Rashawn Gary. I do think, you know, Todd mentioned some of the, Todd Archer mentioned some of the things that go with Micah Parsons. I did talk to somebody this morning in the league who thought, you know what, maybe there is some of that, but this is, this being Green Bay is the perfect place for him. Like, it's all about football here. Yes, he's got a little bit of an entourage, but so does everybody now. And that the packers infrastructure, you know, their, their player development, player engagement, security guys, they have the infrastructure to make this work. And you know, I don't think the packers would have done it if they didn't feel like that was a big concern. And this, this has been kind of unpacker. Like you take a wide receiver in the first round, you know, you take a big swing and you go Micah Parsons, and you know it. Have the packers, have they changed their philosophy? It's a great, it's a great question, and I think the answer is yes. And I think it goes back to a couple things. One, on January 16, that was four days after the packers lost to the Eagles in the playoffs, Brian Goods, the general manager, said in front of us at the podium, it's time we start competing for championships. And then he does what you said. Drafts Matthew Golden. The last time they drafted a first round receiver here was 21 years ago. And then I think there's another factor at play here, and that's the change in presidents. You know, the packers don't have an owner, they have a team president. And that team president now is Ed Policy because the former president, Mark Murphy, reached the organization's mandatory retirement age of 70. And for those people who don't know Ed Policy, but think they know, that name sounds familiar. It's Carmen Policy, son. Carmen ran the 49ers for a long time, made a lot of bold moves out there. You know, moved on from Bill Walsh, moved on from Joe Montana. And when we met with Ed Policy in earlier this summer for the first time, he talked about how, you know, he watched his dad make these bold moves that almost always, not always, but almost always turned out for the better at the back end of it. And I, I don't know if that Policy is necessarily, you know, encouraging them to be more aggressive or those guys just feel like they can be more aggressive with this type of leadership. Great to talk to you. I know you're busy. Thanks for joining us as always, Rob. You got it, Dan. We'll be seeing you. Rob Domomsky, he's been covering the packers since 1997. Yeah, I was told that yesterday about Carmen Policy's son because Carmen policy ran the 49ers and they made big swings, they made trades. They weren't afraid. You know, you're bringing in Steve Young. They weren't afraid to let Joe Montana go or Bill Walsh go. And you gotta have. That's where it goes back to being indecisive. Packers were not. We're taking a wide receiver first round. We're going to make a big swing for Micah Parsons. Whereas the Cowboys have been indecisive. You know, they were indecisive with Dak leading up to that, you know, first Sunday in the NFL season where, hey, we agreed to this contract. They were indecisive about Micah Parsons. Unless they, you can say they were decisive. They decided that back in March that They weren't going to sign him. That was the final offer. Okay, but then carry it on through. And if you're the Cowboys, why stop here? Why not see if somebody wants CD Lamb? Why not say to the Rams, hey, would you like Dak Prescott? Can we have Matthew Stafford? And you're going to get Matthew Stafford for one year. I mean, I'm just throwing out stuff. You're not beating the Eagles. How are you going to beat the Eagles? Well, stockpile draft picks, just like you did with the Herschel Walker deal. Like, if you're all in on, we're not going to pay. We're going to get draft picks. You're either in or out. And that would be the only thing I would say. If you're going to do something, then I would say, keep doing something. But they won't, because Jerry still needs shiny objects. There. There have to be guys you want to come out and see. CD Lamb, Dak Prescott, Diggs. Okay, but I mean, at what point do you say, and then you got a rookie coach like, oh, my God. But is Ed Werder the great reporter who's been there for, I don't know how long? Ed's been there for 30 years. He just sent a tweet. You do not trade Micah Parsons not a week before the season opener and never to the Packers. Yep, he's right. But I know that they were trying. Okay, the leverage that. I was told this. I'm allowed to say this. I. I had two conversations off the record yesterday, and. Which doesn't help me in being a radio host, but it did kind of help me understand sort of what was going on. But, yeah, they were gonna. Their leverage was, we're gonna make you pay play on that fifth year option, and then we're going to franchise you. And they were just trying to get him to agree to the initial agreement because Jerry was all about loyalty. We shook on this, and we were going to pay him, you know, $40.5 million a season or whatever it was. And Micah Parsons said, I don't have my agent here. I'm not agreeing to anything. There's no contract here. And then all of a sudden, you realize, micah, don't negotiate. Look at what these contracts are going to be for. Guys at your position. You're going to be able to get $45 million. It turns out he gets 47. That's how this thing's happened. I think we got an agreement. Sort of let me bring in my agent, and then all of a sudden, the agent's probably like, no, no, don't do this. This is what we're going to make. Trust me on this. And then Jerry probably never forgave Micah Parsons for, you know, reneging on, you know, their agreement because I bought the Cowboys with a handshake agreement. All right, times have changed. We'll take a break. Your phone calls up next. Dan Patrick Show Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, we're Covino and Rich, Fox Sports radio every day, 5 to 7pm Eastern. But here's the thing. We never have enough time to get to everything we want to get to. And that's why we have a brand new podcast called Over Promised. 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And Todd said, I'm going to reach out to Jerry Jones's office. I said, yes, we'd love to have him or Steven Jones on. That would be wonderful. Let's play guess the Cowboys response after. Fritzi, you did hear back from Jerry Jones's office, Todd, I'm not allowed to respond to that. Okay. That could be part of the Guess whether I even got a response. Oh, okay. So we may not have received a response. Okay, Marvin, I'm going to start with you. Guess the Cowboys. Okay. What did you say in the email first, Todd? I wrote good morning, Todd and Scott, a couple of guys I've worked with over the years in Cowboys media relations. Great guys. They always get back to you anytime fashion. I basically said, we'd like to revisit having a few minutes with Mr. Jerry Jones for The Dan Patrick show this morning. We're also interested in Stephen Jones today. We're live from 8am to 11am Dallas time and our zoom link is attached below. Thank you. Okay, that's simple, Marvin, The Cowboys response. They politely declined. Okay, Dylan, who's in for seaton today? They said Jerry would love to. He'll be on in five. Okay, sounds like a seat in response, Paul. Dan, I've seen many of these emails over the course of the past two decades and they're usually pretty brisk. I think this will be in character. I think they said not available today, politely. Okay, yeah. Since, you know, the guys in the PR department with the Cowboys, they're being deluged with requests. They're always polite. Probably a Todd. He's unavailable today. Thank you. You and Paulie were very close and the response was neither is available or neither is available for this. Just that. So thanks, Todd. Neither. Okay. All right. Yeah. All right. So I was close to acknowledged me personally and got back in a timely fashion and they're just not available. All right, Paul, quick follow up question. Todd, have you ever gotten a response other than that for a request for Jerry Jones? It's usually along those lines. Nothing's ever been, you know, terse or like, you know, stop requesting or, you know, I thought we'd been through this. Not available. Even when we invite the commissioner on, it's always very polite. Just continues to be unavailable at this time. And sometimes I'm taking no franchise. So the third hour of the show is better. Or you see tomorrow then. All right, let me get to these phone calls because there's smoke coming through my screen here. These guys, they're fired up. They want to talk about this Jerry Jones Cowboys situation. David in Ohio. David, thanks for holding. What's on your mind? Yeah, Dan. Happy meat Friday. Nobody. Jerry Jones trading Micah Parsons to the packers is Pete Cowboys comedy green paint got a Super bowl ring in the last 30 years. While Dallas still polishing off VHS tapes of the 90s, Jerry just handed the Packers a pass rushing monster. Like he's more committed to building dynasties in Wisconsin than in Arlington. The Cowboys are still America's team if America was a retirement home living off slow. Thank you. All right, David. David on fire there. A little Jerry Jones roast. Let me see. Chris in Syracuse. Hi, Chris. What's on your mind? Hey, thanks as always, Dan. Hey, honestly, you know, you know, Jerry will never admit that his hand was forced by Micah to trade him. It's got to be that he made the trade better the Cowboys, but I wonder if after Jerry told him, hey, you're playing out this season on the contract, that's all it's to it. And Mike maybe and his agent are, you know, in his head a little bit saying, okay, we got that second opinion on my back. You want to pay me, pay me to sit for a little while. And. And Dan, I thought of you last night. When, you know, Jerry can't help himself. A few hours after the trade, he's got to come out and do an interview, which was like 17 minutes of rambling. And you've always said, wait till the next day. Smoke clears your head. Clears. No interview, just do a statement. But with Jerry's Eagle, there's no way he could do that. It's just further proof that the Cowboys winning isn't his number one priority. Feeding his ego is. Thank you, Chris. Well, that doesn't mean that he won't do a press conference today. Why don't we knock one off last night and I'll get ready for the big one today. You can't. Okay, Play the clip where Jerry says they're a better team. Now, this gives us a better chance to be a better team than we have been the last few. Several years since Micah's been here. Not any negative on Micah, but we're trying to get better. We're trying to stop the run and stay in the hunt. Okay, so this is all about stopping the run. You just traded away a guy who is one of the best pass rushers that we've seen in recent memory. But you got Kenny Clark, and that's what this is all about. We got to stop the run. You have to stop offenses because the defense was terrible. Yes. Yes. Marvin under more pressure this season. Lamar Jackson or Kenny Clark. He's got to be Aaron Donald for this to work. If. If you get Kenny Clark from three years ago. Okay, but you're still probably get. If Micah Parsons healthy and Jordan Love is healthy, you're probably getting a draft pick that's going to be 27th. Okay? And then your goal is to get somebody who's good, and then you resign them. Like that's. Isn't that the goal of a draft pick? I got somebody so good, I'm going to resign them. Most teams don't have that luxury. They don't find their quarterback, wide receiver, and their star pass rusher that you. You found drafted, developed, and then you resign them. But then it comes to Micah Parsons, who's better than the other two, and you don't resign him because your feelings were Hurt that he apparently had a handshake agreement and he decided that he was going to turn that deal down. You can't let feelings get in involved in this. You can't. But Jerry did. Jerry let feelings get involved in this. Robert in San Antonio. Hi, Robert. What's on your mind? Hey, Dan, you got it all wrong. This is Jerry Jones and I just wanted to respond to you about the response that you wanted. And we're all in for the interview. Oh, thank you, Robert. I appreciate that. Got to work on that accent a little bit. You got to have a little bit syrupy. Dak is a leader. You got to throw out a word salad where you're just like, wait, wait, what did he say? Wait, what did he say? Tommy in Wisconsin. Hi, Tommy. What's on your mind? Dad, I want my money back. I want my money. A hundred and twenty million dollars. Whatever. What a guy who sits on the sideline and pouts. I am like Shay in Green Bay. That is way too much money. I can name five other defensive players that are worth a hundred and twenty besides that guy. Why him? Why? Yeah, but those guys aren't available, though. You, you can say there are other guys that you would pay that money to. They're not available. Are the packers better today than they were yesterday? Did you have to spend. You overspent? You did. I was surprised. That it's going to be $47 million. I was surprised. But you gave up two late first round picks in Kenny Clark. You're swinging for the fences in Green Bay. Would you have been fine with this roster going in and knowing that maybe you're the fourth best team in the nfc now you can make a legitimate claim that we're the best team in the nfc. The Eagles. What are the odds that you repeat been a long time even winning the division again for the Eagles. So maybe, maybe it's your year. You swung for the fences. I appreciate that. If, if you're a, you know, you have a franchise, you have an owner, don't you want that owner who's going to do whatever it takes to win? I do. I just want somebody who cares and is not looking at the bottom line. I grew up in Cincinnati and we had the Bengals and I never felt like they were all in trying to swing for the fences. Now they went to three Super Bowls in three different generations with three different quarterbacks, but it almost felt like they accidentally did that. They were cheap. Having an owner or ownership group that is gonna go, let's go get him. Let's let's go for this. I appreciate that. And this is the kind of thing that Jerry, you would think would do. He's swinging for the fences, but he didn't. He bunted Kelly in Kansas. Hi, Kelly. What's on your mind? Hi, dc. Thanks for taking my phone call. Yeah, thanks for taking it so long. After Shay as well, my husband asked if I was going to follow him up, and I sure as heck hoped I wasn't going to. Okay. But, hey, as the founder of the Converted Wives Club, I have a question, because last night, after this, this trade happened, I have this phrase, acronym tui, where my husband gave me totally unnecessary information. I love sports. I love to watch. But he starts talking about the trade and other poor trades in history and names. I don't follow. And, you know, I. You could use it for Todd's unnecessary input, too, if you want to, but how do I talk to my husband about sports when I don't follow as closely as he does? Well, I would ask him to, you know, put it in just regular terms that you could understand. I don't like the expression dumb it down, but, you know, put a timer on it and just say, hey, hon, explain that to me just a little bit more and nod your head. Sometimes when maybe you don't realize, like when Todd will be talking to me and he's not making any sense, I just nod my head. But I would say to your husband, hey, I'm really curious about that. Explain that a little bit more, but. And then tell him he's got, you know, five minutes to explain something to you. Yes, Todd. Should she use phrases like you got to get up to get down and you know, those kind of things to make it look like she knows more than she does. Those little phrase we always make fun of with the NFL draft, so just to impress him, you know, upside and all that kind of thing. What is you got to get up to get down? Haven't you said that before about golf? Like, you know, just. I'm talking just sports phrases in general, using these little code words. Kelly, Kelly, do not take that advice, okay? Not for football, anyway. Do not take Todd's advice running downhill. Make sure you get that. No, do not take. No, you don't. You don't need to have catchphrases. Kelly, you. You want your husband to explain something to you, why this is a trade of this magnitude, and this reminds me of when. And then he'll explain that to you. But I do. I do credit you with wanting to know more, learn more. I think she Just tuned us out too much. Worth talking. My bad. Thank you, Kelly. My bad. Chris in Wisconsin. Hi, Chris. What's on your mind today? Hey, Dan, can you hear me? Yeah, I can. I got you, Chris. Hey, first time caller 6, 1175 in the wrong area. I met you guys back at the draft in Green Bay. I love meeting you guys. I loved everybody. I was the one that said, I love Dylan, but he sucks at gambling. But he's my favorite, regardless of the point. Obviously the flags are flying in Wisconsin land for us. But the interesting part I thought was that within the division that Aiden Hutchinson now has to get paid next year and that kind of reset the market. So it's kind of a dig within the division. Anyways, love you guys. I'll hang up now. Bye. Thank you, Chris. Yeah, I did think of Aiden Hutchinson. If he has a great year, he's next up. Is Detroit going to say we're going to pay you the same as Micah Parsons? I would say no, but. And I don't, I don't believe in this. Like the next guy up and the next guy up and the next. We do this with quarterbacks all the time and I think it's financial insanity. Well, he's the next quarterback. Okay, I'm sorry. There are certain quarterbacks who haven't produced that they're worthy of that kind of money. It just not. I mean, Brock Purdy, okay. I mean, can you make a case? I guess. But the next quarterback, and then you're going to have Trevor. Trevor Lawrence shouldn't have been paid that kind of money. I mean, Justin Herbert got. They're all up. They're not Joe Burrow, they're not Lamar, they're not Josh, they're not Mahomes. Like there's. There's a few quarterbacks that should be a little bit separated from these other quarterbacks. But hey, the next quarterback. I don't know who the next quarterback is, but how much are they going to make? I just don't believe that you go, well, Micah got that. So Aiden Hutchinson's going to get $48 million. All right, good luck with that. Maybe the Cowboys trade for Aiden Hutchinson and then they get him. We outsmarted them is what we did. Yes. Marvin, if you're the Lions, you want Ada Hutchinson to have a really good year, but not like a Michael Strahan 22 sack year. Like man, 16 and a half is good for us. Yeah. Yeah. Let's take a break. Who had the best week in sports? We'll decide that more of your phone calls as well. Vince Young won a national championship at Texas. He'll join us as we get ready for Arch Manning season debut in Columbus. We're back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live this Labor Day say goodbye to spills, stains and overpriced furniture with washablesofas.com featuring Annabe the only machine washable sofa inside and out where designer quality meets budget friendly pricing. Sofas start at just $6.99, making it the perfect time to upgrade your space. 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The Yankees tied a major league record for team homers in a 10 game period. 33 by the 77 Bosox, 2006 Braves and the 2019 Dodgers. The victory yesterday was their fifth straight. They've now won seven of their last 10. Four games behind Toronto in the A list. A half game behind Boston. Dylan. Well Dan, I was not super prepared for this so I'm gonna go with the Green Bay Packers. All right. For self explanatory reasons, I'm trying to limit your workload. You're filling in for Seaton. You're also cooking. You, you stayed overnight here at the Man Cave. You know, for brisket it had to be on the grill for 12 hours. So I'm trying to limit your workload there. I didn't even ask for a poll question today. I know that I actually did have Too. So you really hit me with a curveball with the. With asking two things. What is the poll question? Oh, what makes more sense? A handshake deal or a fully fleshed out contract in writing that has been reviewed by professionals on both sides? How about this worst trade for the city of Dallas, Micah or Luca? I would say Luca, because the city loved Luca. I think maybe Dallas knows they need Micah. I don't know if they loved Micah, but Luca, I mean, there were pitchforks. You know, they were. They were out. They were mad. I don't know if anybody's protesting today in Dallas the way they did when Luca got traded. Marvin, who had the best week in sports? I'm going to go with Kyle Schwaber. After last night, four home runs in one game, the 21st time that's happened in MLB history. He now has 49 home runs and 119 RBIs, and he still probably won't win MVP. Did he get to 50 homers or 49 homers? He's at 49. Oh, okay. Yeah, the big dumper is at 50. Okay. I already penciled him in for 50 home runs already, but he is the third player in Philly's history to hit four home runs in a game. Paul, who had the best week in sports? Packers GM Brighton. Good. Tough name to say, but he's been there a long time. He's the guy caught a lot of heat from. Moving on from Aaron Rogers. Early. A little early. And go. And Jordan. Love. That seems to have worked out. And then you got this one. He's having a nice run there. Calvin in Virginia. Hi, Calvin. What's on your mind today? Hi. Hey, Calvin, I have a question. Who do you think will win the national championship? And do you think it will be an unranked team at the beginning of the season? All right, I think it'll be a ranked team. And thank you for the phone call, Calvin. I'll give you Ohio State and Texas. I'll take everybody else to win the national championship. How's that? Calvin, who's your pick to win the national championship? I have Texas winning it. Okay. All right. Well, really good team. Got Arch Manning there, but thank you for the phone call. Sam in la. Hi, Sam. What's on your mind? Hey, Joe. So how does Arch Manning as a grandson tell his granddad, hey, you know, in the two and a half years I'm playing at Texas, I'll have earned more money in nil than your entire NFL career. How do you think that conversation goes? I don't Think they have a conversation about that? Because I think both. Know, we don't need to bring this up. You know, Arch, I think, is making over $6 million in nil at Texas. But thank you, Sam, for the phone call. Yeah, I don't think there's a conversation that his grandfather really cares about. You know, what you make. I mean, look at what Peyton made. I mean, but Archie started all of this. If. If he was really getting into. How much money did you make, Peyton? In your. I mean, Peyton's probably made $300 million. No, Arch is making $6 million. That's nothing. Peyton made a boatload. Yes, Todd, Is that a thing? Grandchildren making fun of their grandparents and putting something in their face about how much more successful they are financially? I don't know. I don't know. Todd just made fun of me just now. Well, you've been trailing off, and I don't know why you're doing that. It's my thing. It's my thing. I know, but I don't like that, so I should get closer to the mic, you're saying. Well, no, no, no. You just. You're just kind of. It's like you run out of. It's a balloon that runs out of air. You're just. You just go. I was gonna say a very bad joke a few minutes ago before he went to Paul for his. For his part when he said Kyle Schwaber, I had recent Philly bias, so I'm sharing that with you. The timing is now off. But as soon as Marvin went with Kyle Schwaber, he was going with recent Philly bias by picking Schwaber for best week in Sports. Wow. I don't know if I want the gong, the cone of silence, or just the no talking by you. Are you talking about, like, a recency bias? Yeah, instead of recency bias. Recent Philly bias. Recent Philly bias, But it's that. Wait, no. Why? I don't know. Why is he wrong with Kyle Schwaber, who just hit four whole months yesterday? Why try so hard? Here it comes. You had a good day. I'm blowing it. I'm blowing it. Good guess. You had a. I had to put the cone of silence here on him. I don't get it. You want to update the poll results? He takes the air out of the room sometimes with that. Everybody was having a great day until that. Yes, Marvin, poll question for next hour. Who self sabotages more, Jerry Jones or Todd Fritz? Wow. How many times have we asked that question on the show? It's getting A little hot under here. All right, let me see if I can raise up the. I'm sure you could find the button somewhere. Are you speaking into your microphone? I am speaking into my microphone. I'm not supposed to be talking. It's code of silence. Well, I. I know. Yes, Dylan, you should rig it so that the only way to bring up the Kona silence is to hit the gong. Like, that's the remote. Let me see if I can. Okay, here we go. There you go. 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