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We're gonna go through our own little poll here. We'll start with you, Paulie. Have you ever been blasted with pepper spray? No, not directly. There was a fight in college, and people were trying to pull people off, and the cops were pepper spraying everyone. And I got a little waft of it, but not a direct hit. But even the waft of it was like I had to pull back. And then I just ran for my life. Not directly. So, no, not directly, Fritzy. I was not pepper sprayed, but I did have the police once tell me to get down on the ground, which was very frightening because I was in Santa Monica, and I was driving back to the gym, to my apartment, and I started getting nervous because I realized I didn't have my seatbelt on, and I felt like there was a cop behind me. And then I started weaving in and out of little side streets, trying to avoid it so that I can put my seatbelt on and hope that maybe he's just trying to get past me and he's following me into some kind of mini mall. And I guess I was acting like I had done something wrong, obviously. And get down. And they had me get down on the ground. I was just trying to explain that I got nervous because I realized that I didn't buckle my seat. I don't believe any of this for a second. I think you've just reenacted Ray Liotta's final scenes in Goodfellas. I completely agree, because look how nervous Fritzi sounded retelling the story. Imagine a police officer yelling at him, what kind of condition he'd be in. Why are you going down all these side streets? What did you do? Get down. And I'm like. I moved my hand a certain way, and they felt like I was, I don't know, reaching for something, and it was terrifying for someone that was like a, you know, Mr. Goody Two Shoes, straight A student that wouldn't hurt a fly. The police telling me to get down face first on the concrete was spooky. Yeah, I. I mean, you know, seriously, that is the craziest Seton. You. You probably have some very interesting stories. It's wild. I do. I've never been pepper sprayed. I've been in the vicinity of people who have been pepper sprayed similar to Pat 40. And it's. It's not pleasant. It's not ideal. It definitely makes you be like, I'm glad that wasn't aimed at my face. I do think it's interesting that Todd nearly got himself shot and killed over what amounts to a fine. I mean, I don't know in 1992 or whenever this was, because he talked about working out, like, a $50 fine. It's definitely worth the seatbelt fine. Or possibly running people down while trying to avoid the police and getting shot. I mean, most interactions with law enforcement for most people are when you've done something wrong. And so there's just an incredibly nervous reaction when you get pulled over for doing something wrong. I have a buddy in college. He had the guy, a policeman behind him. He was doing nothing wrong. He started. This was like a highway, and he started going really slow. He got pulled over for going too slow on the highway. He got, like, under 45 miles an hour. Yeah. What movie was that from? Like, the guy got pulled over for going too slow. Remember that? It was like, no, you were going seven. You were going seven miles an hour. Oh, Black sheet with Chris Farley. Yes. Yeah. Chris Farley's driving along. He's like, how. How fast was I driving, officer? He's like. He's like seven miles an hour. That is. You can't go that slow, sir. Marvin, how about you? Same as the other guys in the vicinity, but never directly. Yeah. So, of course, you know, most people have known my backstory would just assume, like, I've had plenty of opportunities for Never, never been around it, never seen it, never happened. Happened somewhere else. Close as I have. I had bear spray when I was hunting. I was up in the mountains hunting elk. I had the bear spray on me. Grizzly and mama grizzly and her baby were down. So, yeah, I got it out. And that was the closest that I've ever had to pepper spray. It works, plain and simple. If it can dissuade a mama grizzly bear. Pepper spray is the biggest deterrent you can have if you're a cop out there to get somebody down and make them go away. Imagine that bear going back to his cave and telling his buddy, I just got pepper spray by Ryan Lee. Can you believe that, guys? Yeah. She was just protecting her babies. I just wanted to get out of there. I was, you know, I was hunting elk, and that. That was. That was more important to your point, Fritzie. Yeah. Like, okay. Like, the only time I've ever, like, I'm coming Back through Canada to go turn myself down in. Down in Texas. Okay. My lawyer has told me that the DA has allowed me to travel freely. There was a fugitive warrant that was there. I pull into the border there in. I think it's Ellensburg, Washington, from Vancouver, British Columbia, because I was going to treatment and I was working there. And I remember just looking across and I see the woman with my passport. And all of a sudden I kind of look back. I look again like she is like slid back. Like she was like in a magic shoot. Just disappeared. The thing closes. She has my passport. And then I can see in the rear view and the side view like SWAT teams with machine guns coming up on me. And I'm just like, I'm just freaking out. And I'm like, well, clearly the DA did not remove the warrant. And now this is going to be over every news network and now it's going to say, ryan Leaf arrested at the border. So now it's going to be. Look like I was fleeing the country. And I mean, the book comes out soon, people. You'll be, yeah. Welcome to hour two, everybody. Oh, when Dan gets back, he's always just like, did I really ask Ryan Leaf to guest host my show? It goes off the rails so fast. So fast with him. But headlines for us is just simple. You know, we got Derwin James, all pro safety for the Los Angeles Chargers is going to join us. Big game last week. Finished it with an interception against the Atlanta Falcons. On the road. Want to get into the resurgence with Jesse Minter as the defensive coordinator on this team. Jim Harbaugh is the new head coach off of what Brandon Staley was as a defensive mind over the last few years. And then some of the uproar, you know, around the Al Shazir concussion hit form hit to Trevor Lawrence when he was fined and when he was suspended. How difficult is it for a safety coming up to make a tackle, trying to prevent a first down or something like that? When quarterbacks like Mahomes and Caleb Williams and guys who are incredibly athletic or twisting and turning, are they going down? Are they not? Are they trying to pick up an extra yard? How does that work? So I think you'll be a fascinating guest diving into football, football, football. Right. We got the bigger game tonight between the Lions and the Packers. Huge Saturday slate of college football championship games, which we'll get into the third hour when Andy Staples joins us too. I'm really finding a hard time figuring out why these games are even being played. Seriously. They, to me, they're serving no purpose. The final rankings that came out this week, Seaton, don't you think that's a problem? It is a problem. You think that's a massive problem? It's a massive problem. Those are things that are supposed to mean something meaningful. You can win a championship without having to play the game. Were you the top team in the conference? What's the one lost team in the SEC this year? Texas. Right. Texas. Texas is the SEC champion. Yeah. Okay. Deal with it. You know, and they said, well, Georgia beat him earlier. Well, Georgia couldn't figure out how not to be lose to Ole Miss. Okay. So let's, let's, let's move on from that. And the weird thing is if you listen to the different people from the committee and the different people on different networks talk about it, these games only matter like half. I was surprised when they said, well, if SMU loses to Clemson, they'll be okay. You know, I thought, oh, I thought they're out. Out. Yeah. Well, Clemson's in with a three, is a three loss conference champion. They're an automatic bid. Yeah. And like, you know, Georgia, they're going to. Everyone said they're going to be fine. It's almost like they look at this weekend as you accomplish the accomplishment is getting there and they're not going to ding you much for a loss. Let's say Georgia loses to Texas and gets their third loss. Is Georgia in? Yeah, it's a bad loss. Right. And what if they got smoked? It's unlikely, but it could happen. No, very well could happen. Texas is capable of, you know, knocking your wheels off. They can do that. They got the athletes, they got the play callers, they got the team that could do that. I just, you know, hey, so, you know, I wasn't going to quite dive into the college aspect of things here, but we'll get into that more later. Okay. We have an hour two polled. Seaton, do we have that going yet? Yeah, let me update you from the first hour. Okay, let's see. Perception wise, how important is tonight's game for the lions? That one stays at. That's at about 51%. It's extremely important. Why do you think that result is so close? Well, I think there's probably some deference to that by fear. Lions fans are like, hey, if we were to lose this game, it's not that big deal. Okay, Two losses, we're still at the very top. You know, we're going to fight the Eagles a little bit more, you know, but I want home field. So it's kind of, you know, it's the. So I understand it's the packers, the Lions going, hey, let's. Right now we have to change what the status quo is and has been for the Detroit Lions, for every fan base out, for every fan out there, for everybody who's watching, too. We win these games, we win these games. We put people down. And guess what? You all have to come through Ford Field. This place is going to be rocking. Eminem was there last week. I didn't get a chance to meet Eminem on Thanksgiving. I was like, I really thought he might be down the field. And I was just going to be like. Like that. That is one celebrity that I would just. I would. Oh, Marshall Mathers. That's. That's. That's my deal right there. He might be the one celebrity that makes me most nervous to meet. Really? Yeah. I don't know if I would want to meet him, actually. For me, it's. For me, it'd be just like, dude, you're my hero. You got sober and you did it in front of everybody and you told everybody about how to do it, and you made huge inroads for someone like me listening to your record going, that's how I felt. That's how. Oh, my God, that's exactly how. Like, I don't see him as like this recording artist extraordinaire. Right? He's this guy that made his way from this, you know, the absolute bottom to the top with Dre and. But for me, it's a much different conversation. Yeah, I don't mean nervous like, oh, my God, he's such a big superstar. No, you'll be nervous like, he's going to mess with me and he's going to make me feel worse than what I did before I met him. Who? Marvin? Who are guys you be nervous to meet out there? Marvin. Michael Jordan. Like, what do I say? And on top of that, I'm not sure if Michael Jordan would be the most, like, receptive. What do you say is tough? Well, for me. For me, it's like I've met movie stars, athletes, everything like that. Where I get fearful and where I get nervous is when I meet golfers. Like if I run into Jordan Spieth or if I. Bryson Dechambeau or when I would spend some time around Tiger Woods, I was just like a snot nosed kid again, overly fearful and nervous. And like, don't say something wrong. Don't do something stupid. I don't know why that is. Now it's shifted and changed a Little bit. Just because of, you know, the way that golfers have behaved and act. But who else out there? What about you, Paulie? Ah, first name that popped in my head would be David Letterman. I've admired him for so long, I don't know. His reputation for fandom I guess is. It's. He's not. He doesn't love it. He only lives about 20 minutes from where we live. And so I always thought maybe you'd run into him. I don't think I would go up to him. He lives in the Connecticut area. Yeah. I think in a small town. He also lives in Montana, like literally 40 miles from where I grew up. I think if I was in a restaurant and he was next to me, I think I would probably say nothing. I'd regret it forever, but I'd probably not bother him. I met him once. I was on a show when I was drafted. And he doesn't talk to you before you sit down, right? No, doesn't talk to you and then you're told, don't make any sudden movements and do not shake his hand forcefully. Those were the two things. And Marissa Tomei was in the green room with me. Buried a lead. You should have led with that, Ryan. She was horrible to me. Really. What? What? Well, I understand. I'm a 21 year old punk kid and here's this. It's Marissa Tomei, right? I mean, come on, you know my cousin Vinny, you know, Seinfeld at that time for me and she was just like. I think she maybe thought I was the help. I really do. I think she's like, can you give me some. Some peanuts or, or something, kid? Oh, that's nice. You wanted to share a meal with us? Yeah, maybe, maybe. But that. Yeah. Barry Lee. So yeah, I met David Letterman one time. He's done some amazing things in Montana, especially around the Shoto rodeo time in the July 4th area where he's brought in like Willie Nelson to sing. I mean he's done some amazing things, of course. Just an incredible gentleman. His. His one on one interviews he did on Netflix after his time with the, with the late show has been. Been really good. Fritzie, you have somebody that you refer. I had one question. Firstly, if you were to see Eminem, what would you say? Hey, how's it going Eminem? Like what would you like say exactly? I would say. I would say Marshall. Oh, you would call Marshall? Yeah. Does he like that being called Marshall? I don't know. And I maybe could find out immediately if it was the wrong choice. I would assume from the reaction on his, on his face. I think that's what Seaton was talking like. Like if you say something, something wrong to Eminem, and first of all, he's thinking about how he could just absolutely obliterate you in the next song. He's very, he's very. He's the. He' he's the. He's the rough and rugged rap version of Taylor Swift in spurned relationships, I feel like. But yeah, I would say. I would first say Marshall, so amazing to meet you, man. Also on Thursday, Jeff Daniels, huge Detroit Lions fan, right? But bigger for me and my family, Dumb and Dumber fame, right as. So we are in Ann Arbor 2000. I am a guest of Jim Harbaugh's at his celebrity golf tournament playing with Jeff Daniels. And I saw Jeff on the sideline and I walked up to Jeff and I said, jeff, Ryan Leaf, you probably don't remember me. And he said, oh, yeah, quarterback, Quarterback. I said, yes, but to me and my family, much different. We played with you at Jim Harbaugh's tournament in Ann Arbor years and years ago, and you did the most amazing thing. We called and got my little brother Brady out of school. Middle school. We called North Middle School in Great Falls, Montana. You need to go get Brady Leaf out of class, bring him down to the office and get on the phone because Jeff Daniels is going to tell him a story. They got my brother out of class, brought him down to the principal's office. There, the principal, I think his name was Mr. Snow, hands Brady the phone and Jeff Daniels tells him verbatim, like punch for punch, the XLAX toilet scene from Dumb and Dumber. Wow, what a thrill. I mean, if you are a. What was Brady, a 13, 14 year old kid or something like that? I mean, that's heaven. And so I told Jeff Daniels that he's like, you know what? There probably aren't many actors, Ryan, that would have done that. And I said, no, there aren't, sir. And that's why you're that special to me and my family. And he was just like that. You just kind of nodded. Like that was either was a really embarrassing story I told him or it was one that he felt very good about and fond about because he was very fond about it. Was very fond for me and my family. My brother. That's a crazy story. I hadn't thought about it for years until I saw him. I was like, oh, my God, he did that for us. That's the kind of education kids need. They do need that and you should be able to be pulled out of class, whether it's an important algebra or geometry thing, to hear Jeff Daniels talk about fake pooping on a toilet in one of the greatest movies ever, ever made. Speaking of ever made, Derwin James one of the greatest safeties hybrid players ever to enter the NFL. He's going to join us next right here on the Dan Patrick Show. When we come back, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Ch ch ch. Chumba looking for excitement? 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We're going to dive into this in year, in hour three. But just kind of to throw it out there, a little precursor here for everybody. You know, the idea that what college football has become for me has been the minor leagues like it is the baseball. Now, hear me out here, okay? They're all getting paid now, essentially, but the guys that are getting paid paid are the ones at the professional level. And that's what I want to see. I don't, you know, I don't want to go see Ohtani playing the minor leagues. I want to go see him play for the Dodgers. Right? I want to go see them. And for whatever reason, I feel like that with college football a little bit right now. I want to see Shadour Sanders in the NFL. I don't necessarily need to see him in the College Football Playoff. Also, they're still in college. Like, this is still a collegiate football program. They're not a pro team, though they're acted upon as such. And the idea that the fan bases are still just like 113,000 people went to Texas, Texas A and M. Like, the rivalry aspect of it. Michigan, Ohio State, Pepper Spray. Where's the emotionality? That's just flying through the roof still for all this stuff? I don't know. Maybe because my alma mater got left behind. And this last year, I called games for the CW and all our games were Oregon State and Washington State games. So my focus has been entirely on the Pac 12. So I've been week in, week out watching. I called two Oregon games this week this year. One game at the Big House against Michigan. Oregon, the number one team in the country all year long, undefeated. So that was about as close as I got it to it. Outside of that, the fcs, right? Montana State been. Been focused on that. The FCS playoffs. I'm calling the national championship here in a few weeks for Westwood One in Frisco, Texas. Anticipating is probably going to be, you know, similar to what we've seen the last few years. You'll see a Dakota team in there and probably a Montana team. It seems like that's the direction it's headed. You know, Montana State, only undefeated team, I think, out there in the fcs, they have led. They have led every Single minute of every single FCS game this year. The only game they travel, trailed in was against New Mexico. And they found a way to come back and win that one. They absolutely destroyed the Montana Grizzlies, people. Oh, the brawl of the Wild. What do we got, Marvin? Going back to nil. Do you think there should be a salary cap or can you even listen to this? This is a good one. All right, so the athletic director at Colorado, he was on the committee that the NCAA had presented for Nil in terms of regulation. But the ncaa, when the announcement came down from Justice Kavanaugh, not judgment or whatever it was, the NCAA was just such like a tortured, petulant child, said, you want the Wild west, you can have the Wild West. They disbanded the committee, the regulatory committee that was going to oversee Nil, and it was just gone. And so now we have what we have where, let's say in my situation at Washington State, we have probably the best college football player in all of America. John Matir led the nation in touchdowns. If they don't lose to New Mexico and then fall apart against Oregon State and Wyoming, at the end of year, they're 11 1. They're probably in the playoff. And John Matthew should probably be in New York because he's the best quarterback in the country, you know, that no one knew of when they entered the season. But because of that, we don't see that. And the only way we can keep him in Pullman is if the collective in Pullman finds a way to pay him enough money to stay. Because it's the Cam Ward scenario, right? We had Cam Ward a year ago. He goes to Miami. Marvin. Yeah. After your sophomore year, like, are you staying no matter what at Washington State? I know hindsight's 20 20, but listen, to be a legend somewhere like Washington State, it's a different thing. And there's something to him from Little Elm, Texas. He's got this swagger to him. We've seen what Gardner Minshew turned into. One year of playing in Pullman into what it's been. I mean, he's more popular than I ever could be, and I took him to a Rose Bowl. I mean, that's the kind of popularity that John Mateer can have in Pullman. But I'm also not going to begrudge him, ever. If he were to go, let's say, to Oklahoma, to follow in the footsteps of his offensive coordinator, Ben Arbuckle, who just left and did a tremendous job at Washington State during his tenure there, like, it wouldn't surprise Me at all. There's more, there's deeper pockets. He could. You're not guaranteed to play in the NFL, people. I don't care how good you are. Shadoor Sanders, probably the most easily recognizable guy to go play in the NFL because of his dad and all this, everything like that. But guess what? You know, he may play a year, he may play two. Who knows what that looks like? So the fact that he can make generational wealth while in college, doing the thing that you do best at the time, then you got to do it. So I'm never going to begrudge any player now because of it. Just the older generations look around and go and look for loyalty. They look for, you know, why can't you do that? And I've seen a lot of kind of old timers or even, even the Washington State fan base. I asked one of. I asked Jack Thompson, our kind of our godfather of quarterbacks. He's the throw in Samoan, one of the first, third pick in the draft of the Bucks, or was it the Bengals? I can't remember. But I asked him, you know, when did fan bases get to be such kind of whiny, whiny sobs, you know, it really. They're whiny about everything. And I know they're hurt. Pac12 got disbanded and I know they're hurt. But I'm just like, they wanted to fire the head coach. Like, bro, what, what, what revisionist history do you have? We went 8 and 4. We beat Texas Tech in Washington. Stepen. Yeah. You know that the word loyalty is, is so interesting because it doesn't go, doesn't exist anywhere. Right. And. Well, and it really never did. Yeah. It really never. Coaches just, boom. Coaches can jump wherever they want. The, the only thing that. The only people that stay loyal are the fans. Yeah. Other than that, everybody else is operating in a business. Yeah. So even as a fan, you have a quarterback and then you get rid of them because now you have a better one. Well, what about loyalty? That was our guy. Well, no, it doesn't matter because now we got the better guy, so we want the better guy. Well, a quarterback can transfer because they got a better offer, they got a better deal, they got a better situation for themselves and that's seen as a negative despite they're doing the exact same thing that other people have been able to do forever. Listen, you heard dan yesterday with Pat 40 and the Fanatic. Right. Aspect. Fans are fanatics. There's a definition to him. It's so odd to see fans reactions in deference to players, reactions. As an analyst now, a former player, when I show up on the field to call games and everything, it's unbelievable to see the reaction from players in terms of how they know me now. Right. I don't think a lot of them know me as necessarily a guy who played or played poorly in the NFL. They know me as an analyst now, and I'm a very. I advocate very strongly for the player and that that is not dismissed in the circles of locker rooms in this league. And they know that when I step on the field and when they come talk to me, or maybe I was on their campus in college and their coach asked me to speak to the team. That's where I learned a lot of them. Roman Dunesay comes over to me on Thursday. Don't forget, he's a University of Washington graduate. So we have a lot of animosity there as it is. Gives me a big old hug. Talks to me about how appreciative he was that I came and took time and spoke to and how meaningful it was like, I mean, how cool is that to be that change, you know, Derwin James were efforting that still in la, but Tuesday was an anniversary of mine. Ten years since I walked out of a prison cell. Okay. I talked to Fritzie before the show, and I want to throw up the. When we get a chance at some point, I want to throw up. The first public words I had. About A year and two months after I had been out in 2016, the Super bowl in San Francisco, Paulie ran into me in a hotel on my way to get a medical exam that the NFLPA was putting on. And he just, hey, no pressure or anything, if you'd like to come on, talk about life. And I did. I talked to a lot of people on whether I should do it or not. And I did. And I walked on to set and I sat down and me and Dan just had a conversation. And it literally was the catalyst to where I'm at now, publicly broadcasting wise, everything like that, because I was not interested in any of that. I just wanted to disappear. I wanted to go work and be of service to others and no one ever to see me again. But as we found out, that doesn't happen. My name is synonymous with an NFL bust. And every April, May, it gets brought up. Stepen, it's tricky. Well, what you've done is very tricky because the maybe safer way, obviously to do it is privately, right? Yeah. And you open yourself up publicly like that to potentially fall on your face, you know, it's hard. Well, it's hard. Yeah. And I'm telling you, it's been 10 years, and you would have been hard set to find anybody or myself even to think I would make it one year, you know, where. When I walked out and the idea of what hope was. Yeah. Track record. Right. For not. Not you personally, but just the history of. Yes. The things you're struggling with and then success rates and recidivism with. With our incredibly overpopulated prison population in this country. And so all of that was stacked against you. And. But luckily, I mean, I posted something last night after Fritzie, you know, set the show run for today, and I was just, like, you know, incredibly honored. I'm incredibly honored and humbled that the great Dan Patrick trusts me. I mean, come on. He trusts me in his. This is his show. I mean, this is his legacy. This is what he's done. You guys are his gatekeepers, you know, and you guys have carried me, really. If you go back and look at it, for the nine years, you carried me. So, yeah. I mean, I haven't done any of this on my own. And speaking to the fanatic side of it, and it is a tricky situation because guess what? I have to be critical of people. Not the person, the act or whatever it is. Analysis or something. The fans can't differentiate. The fans response is very cutting. It's very personal, and it's very rooted in my past. I'm a huge Montana State Bobcat fan. Like, my dad took me in 1984 to watch Kelly Bradley win a national championship. I saw a quarterback in my home state win a championship at eight years old. I was like, okay, this is my team forever. I dislike the Montana Grizzlies greatly. Right. You know, that's. That's rivalry. That's. That's rivalry. And Fritz, he's got a gris sticker on the front of his desk. And I went over, and I don't know if anybody knows, I ripped it off and I went through the toilet. But last week, I did a little trolling. Guys, I'll be honest. Like, I'm still a fan, too. There's a fanatic in me there, too. So I'm trolling the Grizzlies a little bit. You know, I'm talking about that. The apathy is set in Missoula, and no one showed up at the game Saturday night. No. Or Friday night, whatever it was, no one showed up. No one cares anymore. If you want to be a winner, you got to go to Montana State. So I was Just, you know, I was trolling pretty. Pretty hard, you know, and. But the fan base. Whoa. Like, it was like the vitriol of my past, you know, all of it. My intent was to rile them up. My intent had its effect. And they're going to. The Grizzly are going to get their butts beat this weekend by the Jackrabbits. By in Brookings. So we won't have. You don't have to hear my voice about how bad the Grizzlies are, people. And we'll only be talking about how great the Bobcats are. Did we just delve into Montana, Big Sky Conference football, FCS plays, see what happens? You know, Derwin, you don't show up and show the Chargers and talk about the charges. I got to talk about, you know, you know, how crappy the Grizzlies are and how great the Cats are. I mean, that's just. It's befitting of a great show here. Paulie Pabst would be very proud because, of course, he loves. He loves himself, the fcs. And we are in it deep right now. Montana State takes on UT Martin. Got some pretty good ones. Rhode Island, University of Incarnate word versus Villanova. Yeah. Rhode Island, Rhode Island's still in it. All right, we're going to try one more time efforting to get Derwin back here. And then we got some dower rankings. I didn't. I didn't understand what dower rank is. They're the opposite of power rankings, huh? Yes. It said power rankings. Dour. Dower rankings. Yes. Did I say that right? Dour rankings. Okay. All right. We'll try here during the break. We'll be right back. Here on the Dan Patrick Show. I'm Ryan Leaf. We'll be right back. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Looking for excitement? Chumba Casino is here. Play anytime. Play anywhere. Play on the train. Play at the store. Play at home. Play when you're bored. Play today for your chance to win and get daily bonuses when you log in. So what are you waiting for? Don't delay. 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So much different. Easy. It was very easy commute this morning, even though it snowed last night. I got here with a little pit stop at Donut Crazy in Stratford. Shout out to donut crazy in 17 minutes, everybody. That would be my commute to work. It's very thoughtful of you to bring donuts to the crew. I appreciate that. You guys are amazing, you know, and it makes me look better every time when I show up thinner and you guys look a little bit Melvin. Oh, that's what you do, you know? You know, and it's just. It's just another example of why, you know, when, when Dan, you know, if he decides to ever hang it up, you know, is, you know, if you need somebody to come by, you know, I'm 17 minutes from here, you know, it's just. It's like I could be a fifth Danette, I guess is the Way to put it. There you go. We could just call this the Danette Show. I remember the one time I went to Los Angeles, one of the first times I went with the show. I had a. My cousin lives out there. Yeah. So I called him. I was like, hey, what's up, dude? I'm in la. We should get together. He's like, sick. Awesome. Let me know where you're staying. Like, what's going on over at. So I'm in Santa Monica. Where did he see? And I was like, hey, dude, I'm here, or whatever. And he was in, like, Los Feliz or whatever it is, you know? Yeah. And I was like, hey, man, so I'm staying in Santa Monica. It was like. He's like, oh, I thought we were meeting for dinner. I'm like, yeah, we are. He's like, you want me to drive there this time? He's like, you know how long it's going to take me? 4 hours to get there. Like. But, dude, it's like, this far on the map. It's like. It's like right there. Like, I came from Connecticut. Get here. And he's just like, sorry, man. Maybe next time. Like, I like you at all, but this is crazy. My brother lived in Venice, in Venice beach, and he would never go east of the 405. Right. We lived in the Hollywood Hills. And the only time if you wanted to see his nephew, you'd have to go to his. I mean, he was not leaving it. Yeah, Fritzie, you got to play the meet halfway game is there. Like, when he wasn't going. He wasn't going east of the 405. And it's, you know, it's that old joke on Saturday Night Live when they. All the Californians, when they start talking about the where, how we get to the place, you know, and that would be. Your cousin would have talked to you. Like, at this time, I'd have to go up the 405. Then I have to take across the Newport Coast Freeway and then circle around to, you know, it's. Yeah, it's the Pacific coast highway and all those things like that. Hey, Ryan. What are you doing here? What are you doing here, Ryan? The best I was in the Hollywood Hills. So to go off on a tangent there, that means Derwin James is going to join us at 1105, the top of the second hour, to talk about the Chargers and everything that's been going on in hour two. Now we're able to get into the dower rankings. Not the power rankings, the dower Rankings. So you guys have some examples of that for me. So you can Lita Sue Fritzi. I was excited at one point about Kirk Cousins and the Falcons and I think you had mentioned them, but they've lost three games in a row. They went from six and three to six and six and they've got the Vikings. They're at the Vikings and the second to last game of the season. They got to go visit the commanders. I am dou on the Falcons. That looked like a team that was going to be neck and neck with the bucks or maybe win that week. NFC South. The Falcons are in some trouble. I was there with you. I think I even tweeted out old takes exposed if you want to use this one. I had Lions Falcons NFC championship game. I think it was three weeks ago. Three weeks ago to your point. I think I did it three weeks ago. Young way Koo has just absolutely fallen off. Used to be like the most accurate kicker winning games for him. Kirk Cousins turned into just an absolute turnover machine. You know, I know that. You know the final throw to the Dermon James intercepted in the game. He had to throw it. It was fourth down and Drake London's falling backwards a little bit. You have to throw that ball because it's fourth down. But still four turnovers. If he doesn't turn it over in that game, they win that football game easily against the Chargers team that's a playoff contender. So yeah, with you, I'm told that's dour. That's dour times for Atlanta looks like Tampa Bay. You know what's even dour for me in that division is the New Orleans Saints. Guess what? They win that game. They win that game last week. They're five and seven, folks. And that means they're one game back in the division after firing their head coach. Instead, they lose and they go to four or seven. So you might go NFC south dower. Maybe. Maybe that's the way to look. Except for Tampa. All right. What else do we got there, Mr. Seaton O'Connor. My. You know, it pains me to say this because I want this team to be great. I want them. I would love to see this team win the Super Bowl. I love. I like the players a lot. I really love the identity of the team. Like so much about it. But their inconsistency just really has me dowered on them. The Baltimore Ravens. Oh, yeah. I love the Ravens. I really do. I think they're awesome. I think Lamar Jackson is great. I love Derrick Henry. I want to see those dudes Get a ring, Zay Flowers all get it? Hell yeah. That's awesome. They're exciting, but damn you. 8 and 5. I think they are. Now, if you look ahead at their schedule, their remaining schedule, that looks like a lot of wins. Or is it? I don't really know. Yeah, I really don't know. Well, the fact that they have five losses right now. Exactly. You know, there's a team that actually look at their schedule, I can say they're 9 and 8 when the season's over. Right. I'm calling the Texans game on Christmas day. Is that a win? I don't know. Is it? Exactly. Is it? Steelers. Steelers. They don't, they don't beat the Steelers. They were the best team in the NFL last year and they didn't beat the Steelers. They lost both games last year. You feel like they're beating the Giants. Yes. They also have the Browns in there. I want to say. Well, it depends on what, what, what entertaining value. Jameis Winston, who shows up in that game? I don't know. I mean, Jameis beats the Steelers then goes to Denver and throws for 800 yards and 17 touchdowns and 14 interceptions. You know, it's the most entertaining quarterback in the NFL. I think it's fun to watch. He makes it fun. Fritzie. He made Jerry Judy look like Jerry Rice. We talked about that the other day. I know Judy had an ax to grind and wanted to stick it to his fore Bronco team, but that was ridiculous how he torched the secondary. Hey, I mean, I didn't, I don't quite get why they were getting pressure on him with four down lineman. I don't know why they kept blitzing because once you did that, you put Jerry Judy in a one on one matchup and you put Jerry Judy in a one on one matchup, predominantly the most of the game he's going to win. That's, that's just going to happen for anybody. And the fact that he caught the ball and got in the end zone I think was big. I enjoyed watching the football game. I did. It was an enjoyable game to watch. Bo Nicks. Bo Nix has been special this year. Right. I think early on everybody had the, the Jaden Daniels rookie of the year award being, you know, polished. But you know, Bo Nix has gotten sneakily back into that conversation and back to the mix. So. Yeah, dour. Yeah, I'm a little dour on the, on the Ravens too. I don't really have any faith. The dominating, the way that they were dominated by the Eagles on Sunday at home. Justin and I think when you lose Justin Tucker, like, when you lose like the. There's a confidence that leaves you as a Ravens fan when it leaves the body of Justin Tucker because you know that like, oh, he's. You don't know if he's going to make it. Rather you pretty much believe he's going to miss it now. And that's never been the case with Justin Tucker. Marvin Dour dour rankings Marvin I am super dour on the Chicago Bears after firing Matt Eberflusse firing their oc Losing all these close games and it's all started there. Losing streak started with the Hail Mary in D.C. and so I'm super dou on the Bears, man. It's. You have that. Would we have that audio? I think it'd be a good time. So. So I was at the game. Okay. So I called the game and I'm. Jason Benetti is just spot on on the way. He's calling at the end of the game and we're just both looking at each other. What's going on here? What's going on here? How does he not know where they at? Why isn't Matty Berfolk students? I mean, they're going to lose this game. He better throw this in the end zone for a touchdown. That's the only way they're going to. And he throws it near the end zone. I mean, it was just the most horrible time management situation. Matt Meterfluss. Matt Eberflusse gets fired, right? Yesterday we heard some sound. Caleb Williams, the Bears quarterback, this was at his presser on Matt Eberflusse being fired. I think this is a stepping stone of development, you know, to be able to have all of this in my first year. I wouldn't say that I'm happy for it, but, you know, having these moments is definitely something that will help me in the future. Having these situational moments that, you know, you can't. It's hard to rep in practice. Having some of these moments, having, you know, your coach fired, your coaches fired and people being promoted and, you know, things like that all happening within, you know, a couple weeks of each other. Yeah, I think it, I think it would have helped me in the long run. That's, that's, that's a, that's a take, you know, that's a take. You know, you had a hand in those guys being fired essentially too, also. It's the way I put it when I talk to people. I said, you know, I'm grateful for having spent Three years in prison. I don't recommend it, but I'm grateful. Okay, so you know, this is a Caleb Williams scenario. I'm grateful for what has happened and what I'm going through. I don't recommend it. Seaton. All right. And now though it Caleb Williams, now that everyone's fired. Okay, now whose fault is it? Now it's on you, dude. Now it's on you because every, you know, everybody that you bring in can't be wrong, you know, so now it's going to be on you. Well, now it's known it could actually go to Ryan Poles for drafting him. Sure. Yeah. You know, 100%. Yeah, there's, there's a lot that can be set aside. Caleb Williams has not thrown an interception in forever, people. He's not turn it over. Hasn't looked like an NFL quarterback in halves of games either. So they are where they are. Their record says where they're at. Do you want them to win some games? You want them a better have a draft pick, a higher draft pick? It's a bigger, bigger conversation to have on what that's going to look like. All right, when we come back, Derwent James is going to join us all pro safety for the Chargers as well as Andy Staples to talk a little college football when we return on the Dan Patrick Show. Looking for excitement? Chumba Casino is here. Play anytime, play anywhere. Play on the train. Play at the store. Play at home. Play when you're bored. Play today for your chance to win and get daily bonuses when you log in. So what are you waiting for? Don't delay. Chumba Casino is free to play. Experience social gameplay like never before. Go to Chumba Casino right now to play hundreds of games including online slots, bingo, Slingo and more. 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