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Bob Crawford
It's the Dan Patrick show, fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here in for Dan and the guys. We are going to take you all the way up. Your issues are real until noon Eastern Time, 9 o'.
Brady Quinn
Clock.
Lavar Arrington
They're real. They're not for fake, bro. And, and Lee's issues are far beyond anybody's wildest imaginations of what any. His issues are horribly bad, bro.
Bob Crawford
Why do you keep going back? Got J.D.
Lavar Arrington
On tap.
Jonas Knox
What do you mean.
Lavar Arrington
It ain't breast milk? Damn, it's Jack Daniels.
Bob Crawford
We are off and running here on a, on a Friday morning here on the Dan Patrick Show. And on this three hour extravaganza, we will take you all the way up until noon Eastern Time, 9 o' clock Pacific.
Lavar Arrington
Lee is very confusing, man.
Bob Crawford
So.
Lavar Arrington
He's very confusing.
Bob Crawford
All right. So, golly, yeah, there's, there's just a lot.
Lavar Arrington
I wish people could hear what just happened, man. I just. Lee is a very confusing person, man. I mean, he, I mean, he, he takes that, that, that viral story and puts it on ste. Lee, are you proud of who you are? Lee, like, honestly, like, speaking to the mic, like, like the person that you. Do you, do you do more like, do you look in the mirror in the morning? Do you look at you?
Bob Crawford
Oh, no, I avoid that.
Lavar Arrington
Do, do you ever look at yourself? I'm good. Yeah.
Jonas Knox
I'm happy.
Lavar Arrington
So when you look in the mirror, you're like, you like the person that's looking back at you. Yeah, he's a good dude. You feel good about it? I feel good. And then you go into your day, you step into your day and it's like, go, have a good one. I live my best life, Bar. All right. Okay. Let's, let's, let's, let's do the show. Let's do the show. You do know that that makes me lose a little bit of belief in humanity. You do know that, right? That's his conclusion when he looks in the mirror. Only a little.
Bob Crawford
We need only a little bit.
Lavar Arrington
Only. No, I'm just saying you said only a little. It's more for you. It should be more. I'm not judging him either way. That's not, that's not my. I, I would like to think I'm not judging him, but that's disturbing.
Bob Crawford
I'm all for variety, you know, and we need a little bit everything in this world. Oh, that's what you call it. Okay.
Lavar Arrington
Oh, wow.
Bob Crawford
Now, speaking of a little bit of everything.
Lavar Arrington
Yes.
Bob Crawford
College football's got this nil stuff going on, which love this stuff. Donald Trump, the President of the United States, plans to sign an executive order establishing national stand standards for name, image and likeness initiatives, according to CBS News. So with that being said.
Lavar Arrington
Hmm.
Bob Crawford
This is where you turn it over to Braden T. Quinn to explain to us when we are going to get to the point to where we all know what the rules are, we all understand what the parameters are and we can just move forward as opposed to the back and forth that is constantly happening. Who's violating what Wisconsin player is suing my like all the other things that come along with nil over the past couple of years.
Lavar Arrington
You are fake news.
Jonas Knox
Oh, thank you for that.
Bob Crawford
Thanks.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, so I don't want to get too much into the weeds, but here are like the layman's terms, things that need to be addressed. And I think he's trying to address this with this executive order. The first is uniformity, meaning if you go state to state and lavar, you know, this like high school eligibility for nil and college nil rules, they're different.
Lavar Arrington
Yeah, differs which.
Jonas Knox
One of the things that's occurred now is, yes, we have the revenue share which all the schools have to, you know, share 20 and a half million with their student athletes. However, there's still space for the nil or collectives to operate. And so state by state that can vary drastically. And what they're trying to do is create a level playing field and not so much like, so there's a salary cap per se, but at least the rules are even, you know, going across the country, as opposed to some states where if you are an in state college and you have kids who can earn money in nil in high school, those kids should never ever leave that state. If you have any alumni boosters who are able to then, you know, help these kids at an nil level in high school, this should probably pave the way for them to go to that same school in the same state. So you could see how that example could create a major advantage in one state versus the others. The other is the antitrust protections. So obviously they want to protect a lot of the college leaders right now from antitrust laws to ensure like the long term scholarship availability and opportunities are there for the student athletes. Like that's kind of getting forgotten in the wayside, is Everyone wants to talk about the money and yes, scholarships equate to dollar signs. However, we want to make sure that that's always protected and that doesn't go away. Because a lot of these schools now with the money that they're sharing, in some cases they're, those are going to scholarships, which is great, right? Kids are able to go play sports, get a free education and leave school with a degree and not be any debt. That's awesome. They're still trying to figure out the financial component to it. If you have a kid, for example, who's going to school and making a bunch of money off nil, they still want there to be some sort of component that ties them to having to get their education. And I think it's a good thing. You know, I think we're getting away from what college sports is supposed to be and that's development not only as an athlete, but as a person. And you know, sports are short lived for most. So after that you've got to have a plan. You don't want to have there be a bunch of pitfalls. And then the last thing probably more than anything else is, is the athlete, excuse me, athlete employment status. How that would potentially work with like uh, the, the, the National Labor Relations Board. There's been a lot of talk about them potentially unionizing and how that's going to work since they're essentially employees. So that's one thing. And then the agent regulation, like the agents in this. And again, lavar, you could speak to this firsthand. It's a nasty world. It's a nasty business with some of these agents.
Lavar Arrington
Horrible at the college level and at. They are signing high school kids. They're signing high school kids. They're representing high school kids now. So you're now talking about the whole air quotes agency business. The manager air quotes the managing business. Everybody's starting up a practice every, everybody. If you got a couple dollars to rub together, you got a bag you could deliver, all you got to do is get one. You only got to land one time. You land. If you land, you what. What Drew Rosenhaus landed, Michael Irving triggered the growth. You know, you, you get a mic first client. I, I believe so. I believe that's how I, I believe so. I could be wrong. But, but that might have been his first big client. I'm, I'm just saying if you can get a guy that's going to be a potential first round draft pick or you get a guy you're, you're representing in high school and he ends up becoming a, a high profile athlete. You've, you've basically in essence given yourself a chance to have a successful startup. It's, it's crazy because for that to be maybe the, the, the sun shining on a dog's ass one time in its life. Think about all of the families that are, are going to be impacted and affected by the decisions of, of these agents, air quotes agencies, these managers there are going. I said this when Nil came about and I don't know if y' all remember this. I said that the Nil is go. It's going to be almost as bad as a drug epidemic. It's going to tear families and communities apart. It's going to tear the sports community and it's going to tear sports families apart. I said that when, when Nil just got going. And, and I stand on that, I stand on that. It is literally going to destroy families. Money and sports has always been a great determining factor in families dynamics, relationships. Now you add money where it's not illegal, you add money where people can come from all over the different places and offer a gain, they can offer opportunity to these families and knowing the dire needs that these families have, how bad off some of these families really are, you are, you are in essence basically you are ruining, this is permission to ruin families because you're going to choose the money over your kid, you're going to choose the money over your family, you're going to choose the money and the opportunities over everything else. So I, I, it's, it's, it's crazy to me that, that there isn't more of a, a real approach to making sure that this is as regulated as it can possibly be because it's so open, it's so out of control, it's so not governed that all it takes is the highest bidder. And you can ruin a family. Highest bidder ruins the family. Because we're going to come take your, we're going to come take your athlete, we're going to come take your son. It should be your son, but it's, it's a commodity, it's now considered an asset. And that's, it's a, it's a sad commentary.
Jonas Knox
So what they're trying to do is create, you know, more of a vetting process so it can be legitimized. And again, in doing that, a union would probably help. Now we're seeing the bad of the NFLPA union and how unions sometimes can make mistakes and not, you know, operate in the best way for their union members. Or employees. But in this case, it's necessary to create some frameworks. I mean, there's just. It's too much. It's too wide open. It's, you know, it's kind of drastic how it changes from. From place to place. And the NCAA now has no control. So this is why there's kind of a call for some sort of federal national action to take place. And an executive order is going to be faster than what we're going to find from Congress. As we know, things in Congress tend to take a while. So that's, that's what they're trying to. Attempting to do. You know, will it be challenged in court? I'm. I'm sure, I'm sure someone will have an issue with it. Someone will challenge something. Someone will, you know, create a, you know, file a lawsuit and, you know that it still won't be solved, but at least it'll get us hopefully a little bit closer to the end, the end game and hopefully again, how wild.
Lavar Arrington
Does it get once you have to acknowledge it has to be stated that they are employees, where does this go from. From there? Because to me, it seems as though that is the last crack. That is when the water totally takes down the wall and, and the dam is totally broken. When they say this college athlete is an employee, and who is he an employee to? Q, Is he an employee as the independent contractor? Is he an employee to the football team? Is he an employee to the university? What is. How does that work?
Jonas Knox
I would assume it'd be the university. You know, he'd be a W2 employee to the university. And they will create within that working agreement, you know, language that, you know, sets their. The standards. And I would assume some of those standards or penalties they could face would, would involve them not, you know, going through a certain amount of education, you know, no different than certain jobs kind of require that. Right?
Lavar Arrington
Yeah.
Jonas Knox
You know, you've got military baseline. Some cases military is part of that. Yeah, there's, there's, there's a number of ways you can look at it, but that would be my best guess. And, and look again, I don't know what really will come from this. It could be just political posturing. We, we see that from time to time. I mean, remember that whole lawsuit that dude in Ohio had about not having noon kick? How's that?
Bob Crawford
Oh, yeah.
Jonas Knox
Have you heard anything from that guy? That guy said it. No, no, no. I just, it's. That's why you can't read too much into politicians. Now, maybe this is different because it's the President of the United States, and maybe he can get something done, but I don't know. We'll see where all of this goes. I'm hopeful. I'll put it that way. But I know this. If it drags on too long, football's gonna start. Everyone's gonna forget about it until next February.
Lavar Arrington
That's true. That is true.
Bob Crawford
By the way, we're a little over, like, less than five weeks away from the first games in college football.
Lavar Arrington
Yeah, it's like in the 40s, right? It's in the 40s of days. Yeah, man, I'm excited. Yeah, I'm excited.
Bob Crawford
Hawaii football's back. Better be excited.
Lavar Arrington
My, My son took his program pictures and like, the, the, the videos that you do, like when you. 36 days. What? 36. 36 days, 2 hours and 45 minutes. Yeah, that's dope. So he, you know, the, the videos when you, like, ah, get let. Right. Let's go. You know, you get hyped up. You know, he did that for the first time. I've got, like, man, it kind of, you know, I've been. I feel good.
Bob Crawford
Yeah.
Lavar Arrington
Yeah, man. My guys got me feeling good, man, so I'm excited. See him play for Penn State.
Bob Crawford
There it is.
Lavar Arrington
Yeah, it's pretty exciting.
Bob Crawford
What up, man?
Lavar Arrington
Man, what up, man? Man.
Bob Crawford
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Lavar Arrington
Isn't it booming?
Bob Crawford
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Bob Crawford
It is the Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. Levar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you. We are going to have a.
Lavar Arrington
That went. That wasn't a. You weren't planning on that, huh?
Bob Crawford
Wait a second. I'm just noticing something on our Zoom Liquor Store Lee. Store Lee.
Lavar Arrington
That is ridiculous. And he's eating, of course. Is that Little Caesar's pizza? I got that part. Is that leftovers? Did you just order that? Leftovers? I found it in the back. Found it in the back. So that's.
Bob Crawford
Left it here.
Lavar Arrington
Okay.
Bob Crawford
All right.
Lavar Arrington
Okay. That's. He wanted to say his work wife left it here, but you. You didn't want to do that, so. Okay, okay.
Bob Crawford
Keep with the theme.
Jonas Knox
Yeah.
Bob Crawford
All right, so coming up here in a little over 20 minutes from now, we are going to try and debut something here on the network that'll be yours here on fsr. Right now, though, we are going to turn back over to a man who's going to try and figure out some of the chaos and madness in the nf back for a second time this week. Two days in a row. So nice. We did it twice. Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB Amazon NFL on Prime Insider. Get him on X at Albert Brear Ab. It's been forever. What's going on?
Brady Quinn
Yeah, I figured you guys just wanted me to follow up on the Coldplay situation.
Lavar Arrington
Absolutely, yeah.
Jonas Knox
Actually, do you have any thoughts on that? I mean, was it the reaction that got them caught?
Brady Quinn
Oh, yeah, no. I mean, I think there's no question. If they had just stood there, why would anybody post that?
Lavar Arrington
Right?
Brady Quinn
You know what I mean? Like, I guess there's an outside chance you get caught that way in that, like maybe one of the wife's friends is in the crowd or something. Right? Like, if that's possible. But there's no way, like, anybody would think to post that video if they just stood there or even if they just like, waved the camera instead and like, let go of each other. So cover ups always worse than the crime, right?
Bob Crawford
Abu, you've been to Gillette Stadium many times before, correct?
Brady Quinn
Yeah.
Bob Crawford
All right, so I blame the lighting that that guy thought it was his wife. Like, is that. How are you going with that?
Brady Quinn
Or you think they need some stadium?
Bob Crawford
Yeah, I think they got to figure that thing out and get that sorted through.
Brady Quinn
Yeah, Yeah. I mean, I could get the best of anybody.
Lavar Arrington
I guess you did use cover up, though, and we know that that's why you're coming on to.
Bob Crawford
I am, I am curious, what sort of house cleaning are we going to get with this team in the NFL called the NFL pa. What sort of. How's this going to look now based. Based on how resigning?
Brady Quinn
Well, it doesn't look great for sure. And you know, I think a huge part of this now is going to come down to the players getting people in that they can trust. And, you know, after everything that's happened over the last, you know, three weeks, or at least the revelation of things that have happened over the last year or so over the last three weeks, I think it'd be really easy for any player to be distrustful of the way the union's working. I think, you know, you go back and you look like a couple of things, of course, like the, the fact that, you know, like the NFLPA under D. Smith, like, viewed exposing collusion as sort of the holy grail. And you know, even though they didn't win that case, you know, that the chance to expose, you know, real evidence of collusion and then, you know, helping the NFL cover it up never made any sense, you know, and then, and then, you know, Lloyd Howell's involvement in the private equity firm that was one of the small circle of firms that were approved to buy into NFL teams, you know, puts him ostensibly in business with the NFL. You know, so, I mean, look, like, I know a lot of people don't care about conflict of interest and that sort of thing, but, you know, the players have to walk a very, a very fine line to get what they want. I think that the NFLPA has challenges that the other sports unions don't have. I think it's more difficult for the NFLPA to get what they want because of the number of people they're serving, because of, you know, because of the number of players that are on non guaranteed contracts because of the lack of time that the bulk of the league spends playing professional football. There are a ton of challenges that go into it. So they got a big old mess in their hands now. And you know, I, I would, it wouldn't surprise me to see somebody like Don Davis, next player in the, in, in the leadership role for now. And then they gotta figure out what they're doing going forward.
Jonas Knox
One thing that I always think of in these circumstances is, I mean, what. So, and I've said this earlier when we were talking about the subject like a week ago, the PA has always assumed that the ownership, the owners were colluding.
Brady Quinn
Yep.
Jonas Knox
And then you basically, through all of this, have proven that that's the case.
Brady Quinn
Yep.
Jonas Knox
What's the, what's the recourse? I mean, at the end of the day, there's 31 majority owners. There's Green Bay, which is a unique ownership group, and the players are the players. And so, like, what could they do? Exposing that, that then forces the NFL to change and not Collude moving forward.
Brady Quinn
Well, I mean, Brady puts the legacy antitrust exemption at, you know, in payroll, which is, you know, really. I mean, it's. That's an existential thing for. For the NFL, you know. Yeah, this is sort of the difference between, like, you know, the sports over here and say, soccer in Europe, you know, if they don't deal with this because they aren't operating monopolies, there are different leagues over there. Player doesn't like the working conditions in one league, whether that's money, you know, the. The environment, whatever it is, like, you can pull up stakes and negotiate to go play in another league. You know, that's not the way it works in North American sports. And so, you know, to be an operating monopoly, for the government to allow you to be an operating monopoly, you have to. You have to, you know, you have to, you know, achieve certain conditions within your working environment. And one of them is that, you know, the teams aren't working together to suppress, you know, working conditions. And so, you know, it's something that the NFL, Pennsylvania obviously, you know, could. Could look at and say, you know, we think that the NFL's antitrust exemption should be, you know, should be. Should be looked at. And, you know, what that would give them leverage to do? I don't know. You know, and there's some stuff here from a legal perspective that's probably a little bit over my head, you know, but, you know, like the. I mean, if you want to go back through the history of it and you want to go, you know, to the 60s, like Paul Pete Roselle, you know, getting the antitrust exemption in the first place is sort of what set the stage for the NFL to become the big television product that has become and allowed them to do business the way that they've done it for, you know, now, you know, 60 years. Over 60 years. So, you know, the. The idea that that could be. That that could be in any sort of trouble would give the nflpa, you know, a tremendous amount of leverage over the NFL.
Lavar Arrington
Ab. What. What are the chances? Like, I. I'm just. I'm thinking of this through what my lens would be. If I heard this, if I was a part of this and I was playing. I'm asking my legal team, my representation, do I have a legal case against the union? Because I feel if you expose, like you had, like you said, Holy grail is exposing that there was collusion. You've exposed that they do not want to give more guaranteed money that directly impacts me potentially, you know, personally. Dude, is There a case here for players. I would assume certain players are looking at this like, if that's what the, the PA is doing and that's what they're agreeing upon, I've been let down and that has potentially costed me X amount of potential dollars that I can make in the future.
Brady Quinn
Yeah, it's a fair argument. You know, I don't know what they're, I again, like, I don't know what the legal recourse would be there, whether it be a class action lawsuit or something like that. It's obviously, it's obviously a horrible look, you know, and I think, you know, one of the things that's come up, you know, and this is the obvious question, is like, well, why, why would the NFLPA cooperate here? And I, I've heard a couple different things on that. There's the NFL's ability to, to pursue legal fees because they did win the case. So, you know, if they could come after, I think it was $12 million in legal fees, you know, you know, and the NFLPA can't afford to pay that. Could they go to the NFLPA and say, well, you know, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you waive those legal fee, if you waive your right to pursue those legal fees, then we'll keep it quiet too? That could be one. There was the individual case with J.C. treader, which I know Pablo Torre reported on, you know, which you know, stemmed back to some of the things that Treader was found responsible for and in talking about running backs and in players in other positions too, holding in and taking injuries to try to gain contract leverage, you know, that, you know, keeping that one quiet in exchange for keeping the other one quiet could be part of it too. But in each of these cases, you know, as I lay those out, like, that's not helping the individual players. So if you're making a deal either to benefit one person or to benefit the union itself rather than the 2500 players, well, that's a problem. So again, like Lavar, I'm not sure exactly what the recourse would be, whether it be a class action lawsuit or something, but you would think that a lot of players would be upset about it and might look to take action.
Bob Crawford
Get him on X at Albert Brear, senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the mmqb. You also see him on Amazon NFL on Prime's coverage. Albert Brear joining us here on the Dan Patrick Show. Two pros and a cup of Joe filling in for Dan and the guys. AB TJ Watt gets the deal done. We know the numbers. It's three years. It's 123 million annually. He's a million more than Miles Garrett. All right, so now we know that you've got Micah Parsons, Trey Hendrickson, potentially Aiden Hutchinson. Best guess in order. How do these get done?
Brady Quinn
Micah trade, maybe, you know, Aiden doesn't. Aiden Hutchinson doesn't have to. He doesn't have to rush into anything now. He's coming back off the broken leg, you know, so sometimes for a player psychologically, that could, you know, make him, like, have the. The mindset. Like, I just. I just want to get mine. So, you know, maybe that'd be a little bit of a motivator for him, you know? But I would think that because, you know, Aiden's under contract for another two years and he is coming back off the injury, it might behoove him to wait to see what happens with Micah and Trey. My guess would be Micah goes first, Trey goes second, and Aiden goes third. To me, like, the least predictable one is Trey. I think Micah and Aiden definitely get done. Trey, because this is stretched over three off seasons, because he's older than the other two, because the Bengals have the history that they have, because the Bengals, you know, actually handled, as far as the way that the contracts were set up, T. Higgins and Jamar Chase in totally different ways, where Chase's deal was structured a little bit like. More like Joe Burrows, where Higgins was a little bit more like. The Bengals have always done deals, you know, and the fact that this guy's not going to be willing to take a. Not going to be as willing to take a hometown discount because this has lasted over three off seasons. I think it's enormously complicated. So I. I would. I would guess, like, maybe there's a push to get Aiden Hutchinson done here at the start of camp. If that doesn't work, which maybe it won't, then. Then. Then you do it right before the season. Whereas, you know, obviously, with Micah and Trey, there's a little bit more urgency to get something done.
Jonas Knox
Albert, I gotta give you credit, man. You called it. You said exactly how this second round was gonna play out. You said there'll be some guys at the top end that will get those guaranteed deals. There'll be guys after Alfred Collins, other players who will kind of cross over and not get the fully guaranteed deals. Tell me where you expect it to be. The biggest issue. Is it 40 with Taylor Shuck? Is that who you said the other day?
Brady Quinn
Yeah. Yeah. I think that that's That's a big one. You know, I think, you know, because he's a quarterback, and quarterbacks generally handle a little differently. And so, you know, if. If you're. If you're Luther Burton at 39 or Travian Henderson at 38 or Jonas Savaina at 37, like, I think part of, you know, the equation in your head is, well, there's a quarterback right behind me, and if he's able, because of the position that he plays to get 100 of his deal fully guaranteed, well, then I ought to wait and see whether that happens before I do anything, you know, so, you know, obviously, the first three guys now are signed and. The first three guys. Yeah.
Jonas Knox
In the background.
Brady Quinn
I know, I know, I know. The Judkins thing is complicated by the legal case. So, I mean, to me, it's, you know, it's shock and then. And Chuck and Jud Kings, and because Judkins is held up, I think shuck kind of 37, 38, 39.
Lavar Arrington
A.B. can I revisit the Micah Parsons and all these contracts? Because I clearly hit a glitch with Q yesterday and talking about him waiting for or versus it coming to him. He's not waiting.
Jonas Knox
He's looking for it.
Lavar Arrington
He definitely not looking.
Jonas Knox
He's not. And he's not. I don't know what he's doing.
Lavar Arrington
Yeah. Yeah. Well, it.
Jonas Knox
We.
Lavar Arrington
We definitely had a good time with the whole idea of waiting versus expecting and, you know, whatever it may be. But I'm. I'm curious. Is it. Is it reasonable to think that Micah's deal gets done pretty soon now that TJ Watts is done, based upon what that looks like? If Jerry Jones does the deal with Micah and then the Steelers come out and do a bigger deal with TJ.
Brady Quinn
Watt, it should simplify it. And I'm with you on that, like, but we've seen the Cowboys over the last few years and what they went through with CD Lamb and Dak Prescott going to the wire last year, and Zach Martin had a hold, I believe, a couple years ago that went deep into August. If you want to go further back, there was a. There's one with Zeke Elliott, you know, so the Cowboys, for one reason or another, have let these things drag out a little bit. But, I mean, I think the. The landscape is set now. You know, I mean, I. I think it's pretty clear based on what TJ Walk got and what Miles Garrett got, where you're going to have to go to get something done with him. And, you know, like, to his credit, like, Micah Parsons, you know, willingness to wait on this and willingness to see how a couple of these others play out only helped his cause. The hard thing to wrap your head around is kind of how the Cowboys have operated here, because I do think, you know, they, they paid a price for waiting on dac. They do think they paid a price for waiting on cd. And there's a lesson to be learned here, one that the Eagles, like, I think, have really kind of benefited from and doing their deals early. You know, the Cowboys, like, waiting on almost every case has cost them money. And so I really, like, I know that, you know, like, that Michael wasn't going to, you know, Michael wasn't going to do anything that wasn't going to be the top of the market at the same time. You know, the top of the market has moved quite a bit over the period of time. The Cowboys. Way to do this.
Bob Crawford
Albert, before I let you go, with training camp right around the corner, if you had to rank Top 3 storylines you're most sick of talking about this off season, what would they be?
Brady Quinn
Put me in the spot. Oh, what am I sick of talking about? Well, the Micah thing is up there because I just, it's just like, honestly.
Jonas Knox
He'S not looking for it.
Lavar Arrington
Dang.
Brady Quinn
And I, and I'm not smacking in the face. This is maybe against you, Lavar, but, like, it, it's just like it feels like we're replaying where we were with CD Lamb and Dak Prescott last summer.
Lavar Arrington
Well, that's not fair to take that out on Micah Ab.
Brady Quinn
I just, I, I just like, the Cowboys keep putting themselves in these situations that it's not easy to explain. You know what I mean? Like, so, so, so that'd be one. I don't know.
Bob Crawford
Aaron Rodgers.
Lavar Arrington
Aaron Rodgers has to be Aaron Rodgers.
Brady Quinn
I would have. Aaron Rodgers would have been top of the list until like a month ago. But now I think it becomes more interesting because now it's like what it's going to look like on the field. And I don't think, like, there's any of that weird back and forth anymore. I don't know. I'm, I'm ready to roll. Like, I'm ready to just kind of get this started and have some things that actually matter start to happen. You know what I mean? Because I, you know, I always get these questions this time of year. It's like, who's your surprise team?
Bob Crawford
And people.
Lavar Arrington
Nothing else going on.
Brady Quinn
People asking, like, people asking like, June. And it's like by then everything has been covered six ways from Sunday. So nothing's a surprise anymore. It's like I could say the Raiders and they go, oh, that's not really a surprise team. Okay, well who is that? You know, so, so anyway, it's, it'll.
Lavar Arrington
Be good to have someone would say the Raiders aren't a surprise team. Maybe.
Brady Quinn
No, I mean, I know, I know I'm saying they would be. But I like, it's just an example of how everything's covered. Yeah, everybody's already covered this stuff.
Bob Crawford
Well, well, listen, he's ready for training camp, he's tired of the BS and you can get him on X at Albert Breer, Senior NFL Reporter, Lead content strategist at the mmqb. Also Amazon NFL on Prime Insider AB Appreciate it, man. Thanks for doing it. Another day here with us this week and we'll talk to you again next Thursday.
Brady Quinn
All right, thanks guys.
Bob Crawford
There he is, the great Albert Breer with us here on FOX Sports Radio. It is the Dan Patrick show here on fsr. Two pros and a cup of joe filling in for Dan and the guys, lavar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you. Coming up next here though, we're going to try something out first time, first time for everything. We will try it out with you as our audience right here on fsr.
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We need to embrace this community.
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It is the Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's what it is. Two pros and a cup of Joe filling in for Dan and the guys. Lavar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you.
Lavar Arrington
What is this?
Bob Crawford
Coming up top of the little over 12 minutes from now, we are going to tell you about somebody who's all of a sudden feeling more optimistic about their team's fate in the NFL this upcoming season. That'll be yours here on fsr. We do want to remind you, you can stream this show on all of our Fox sports radio shows live 24. 7 at the new and improved iHeartradio app. Just search Fox Sports Radio and the app to stream is live. One of the newest features in the app is that you can select Fox Sports Radio as one of your presets, just like the presets on a radio dial. So be sure to preset Fox Sports radio in the iHeartradio app and it will always pop up at the top of your screen. So, Brady, what got you on the.
Jonas Knox
Before we get to that, before we get to that, there's a lot of conversations going on behind the scenes, Jonas, that you apparently are not a part of.
Lavar Arrington
Oh.
Jonas Knox
So I'm trying to bring you up on speed on things because sometimes when you do something so great, you can't help but have a bit of a release. You know what I'm saying?
Lavar Arrington
Whoa.
Jonas Knox
Have you guys ever experienced something like that?
Bob Crawford
Yeah.
Lavar Arrington
I need more context.
Jonas Knox
Well, Lee, if you could, could you. Could you Give us a little more context right now. What's happening out the Open.
Lavar Arrington
I have a little bit of Scotty Scheffler for you.
Danielle Robaix
Take a listen to how great this.
Bob Crawford
This swing lands downwind.
Brady Quinn
You can get onto this green.
Danielle Robaix
But Scheffler.
Lavar Arrington
Oh, of course. Good replay, too, here.
Bob Crawford
Extraordinary.
Lavar Arrington
Let's stick to the golf.
Brady Quinn
Just a little bit of wind from behind.
Bob Crawford
Just help to ease down the green.
Brady Quinn
As well.
Danielle Robaix
Shall we talk about these broadcast second?
Lavar Arrington
Just a little bit of wind.
Jonas Knox
Oh, it's well played.
Lavar Arrington
Downwind. I mean, clearly there's some straining that takes place when you swing the. The club, I guess, right?
Jonas Knox
I mean, you play golf, Lavar, you know, I mean, and especially if you're in front of a crowd, there's money on the line. You know, a big tournament like this, a major, there's pressure involved, there's some nerves involved. So after you hit a decent shot, there might be a little something that squeaks out there.
Bob Crawford
Hey, by the way, you know, never.
Lavar Arrington
Heard anything like that.
Jonas Knox
You ever hit a guy before and, like, pass gas as you were hitting him?
Lavar Arrington
You know, I can't honestly think of any time that I've ever. Even if it may have happened, I can't even think of any time that I would have even paid attention to it.
Bob Crawford
What if you, like, hit a guy and you caused him to pass gas?
Lavar Arrington
Yeah, I don't. I don't know.
Bob Crawford
It's like snot bubbles in the program.
Lavar Arrington
It's just something I never stopped to think about until this moment.
Jonas Knox
Right.
Lavar Arrington
And that's pretty funny. Like, that's a funny. That's a funny clip to me.
Bob Crawford
Where is the mic on him located?
Lavar Arrington
Because, I mean, them boom mics are.
Jonas Knox
I don't think they also said it's a boom mic. I don't think they actually have a mic on.
Bob Crawford
So. So it's even. So it's even louder. Like, the fact that a boom mic.
Lavar Arrington
Caught that, bro, you could be down. You could be down the hallway, and if they're pointing a boom mic at you, it'll sound like you're right next to him.
Jonas Knox
One more time. We're here. One more time.
Lavar Arrington
Oh, gosh.
Danielle Robaix
Down. When you can get onto this green. But Scheffler.
Lavar Arrington
It'S the delay that gets me, though.
Jonas Knox
To me, it's the. It's the length. Because that's not one that you, like, squeak out and try to, like, hold back.
Lavar Arrington
He pushed it.
Jonas Knox
He hit it. He was just like, no, he let it happen. It came and it went. And he was like, all Right. That happened, by the way.
Bob Crawford
How about the discipline of him to know that that was there and to still swing the club. Focus on the shot. And then afterwards.
Lavar Arrington
All right, now, he definitely was in his follow through. The finish of his follow through when it came out. Hold the stage.
Jonas Knox
Is he the most, like, lovable golfer? I mean, the guy's been arrested. The guy.
Bob Crawford
Yeah. Great point.
Jonas Knox
Is the best player in the world. He just cuts it loose whenever he feels it's necessary, I think. And he's like a true family man. The last. Last tournament major he won, he was holding his son, who had had a blowout up the back of his. His outfit with crap off the back.
Danielle Robaix
Wasn't he the one who set the.
Bob Crawford
Master'S menu for, like, just barbecue sliders and stuff, too? He went all Texas with his master's course. I think he was very. Yeah, I think he recently said that, like, even though, like, as great as he is and he's putting on, like, a historic run, he's just kind of like, yeah, is this it?
Lavar Arrington
He's definitely Lee's hero now. I mean, he's got to be number one on your list now, Lee.
Danielle Robaix
Yeah, I. I farted during a cough.
Bob Crawford
During the show yesterday. Okay.
Jonas Knox
I don't know.
Bob Crawford
Anyway.
Jonas Knox
I don't know that radio really compares to playing a sport and farting. I mean, Lee, you fart all the time in studio.
Lavar Arrington
Yeah, but this was. Yeah, but usually I intend to. This one was a came with the cough surprise.
Jonas Knox
I'm sure it's not the first time. Lee, back to what you said, though, Jonas, he did have a comments in regards to when you get on top of the mountain, it doesn't last as long as people think. Like, you work your entire life for this moment, and then you get there and you're like, this is it. Well, what's next? What's for dinner tonight? You know, it's like he's like. I think that's the thing that he was kind of talking through, and I think he's been the number one player in the world for so long, and he's. He. He's at a point where, like, I feel like when he wants to turn it on and play his best, he could beat anyone, maybe. Maybe ever, if I can go that far in saying that. But it is to hear him say that to, like, a bunch of people who wish they were in his shoes, for him to basically look back at them and say, yeah, it's not as fulfilling as you think.
Bob Crawford
Aaron Rodgers has said the same thing. Kevin Durant said the same thing. Like, they kind of looked around and said, is this it?
Lavar Arrington
Like, that's kind of interesting because it does.
Jonas Knox
There's a lot of exists, there's a lot of CEOs, you know, who build up their company, they sell it, they make a bunch of money and they're like, hey, this is what everyone's told me is the dream. And I'm here and it doesn't feel the way I thought it would.
Lavar Arrington
Yeah. I mean, they. They call it my name second. And it was just like, let's go. Like, it wasn't like I thought in my mind, in my dreams, I was gonna be, you know, crying and falling out and my mom would be wiping my face and all that stuff. It was just kind of like, yeah, it was just normal, man. It's like, all right, like, let's go get on stage. Like, let's. All right. I know. I expected more, though. Did you know how did you wait.
Jonas Knox
A little bit longer?
Bob Crawford
So.
Lavar Arrington
So did you cry after? But you were crying based upon waiting longer? Not.
Jonas Knox
No, I didn't cry. I was. It was more of like just a whirlwind. I was in shock because of how fast things changed in about a minute.
Lavar Arrington
Yeah.
Jonas Knox
Yeah.
Lavar Arrington
So I don't know. Anyways, everybody out there, go ahead. Make sure you have some flagellants with what it is that you do and your accomplishment. That's. That's what I would advise, you know.
Bob Crawford
Not near co workers, though, please. Not near co workers.
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The Dan Patrick Show: Hour 2 – Trump vs. NIL, Albert Breer
Release Date: July 18, 2025
In this compelling episode of The Dan Patrick Show, hosted by iHeartPodcasts and the Dan Patrick Podcast Network, Dan and his panel delve deep into the evolving landscape of college athletics, focusing on the intersection of former President Donald Trump's initiatives and Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) regulations. Additionally, NFL veteran reporter Albert Breer joins the discussion to shed light on pressing issues within the National Football League (NFL), particularly concerning the NFL Players Association (NFLPA).
The episode kicks off with a significant development in college sports: Donald Trump, the President of the United States, has reportedly signed an executive order aiming to establish national standards for NIL initiatives. This move seeks to introduce uniformity amidst the previously fragmented landscape where NIL rules varied drastically from state to state.
Bob Crawford introduces the topic at [05:29], highlighting the intention behind the executive order:
“With this executive order, the President is looking to bring clarity and consistency to NIL regulations across the country.” [05:52]
Jonas Knox (likely Brady Quinn, based on context) elaborates on the complexities and necessities of this executive action:
“One of the primary objectives is uniformity. Currently, NIL and even high school eligibility rules differ from state to state, giving some states an undue advantage over others.” [06:23]
Uniformity of NIL Rules:
The executive order aims to create a level playing field nationally, ensuring that colleges and student-athletes across all states operate under the same set of guidelines. This move is designed to prevent states from creating competitive advantages or constraints that could influence where talented athletes choose to attend college.
Antitrust Protections and Scholarships:
Protecting the integrity of scholarships remains a cornerstone. The executive order seeks to safeguard scholarships to ensure that the essence of college sports—development both as athletes and individuals—remains intact without being overshadowed by commercial interests.
Athlete Employment Status:
A crucial aspect is defining whether student-athletes are considered employees. This designation has far-reaching implications, including potential unionization and the rights that come with employment status.
Regulation of Agents:
The discussion highlights concerns over the burgeoning agency businesses that are now representing high school and college athletes. Lavar Arrington voices significant apprehensions about the negative impacts these agents can have on families and the well-being of young athletes.
“NIL is going to be almost as bad as a drug epidemic. It’s going to tear families and communities apart.” [08:54]
Lavar Arrington passionately expresses his concerns:
“You’re essentially giving permission to ruin families because you're prioritizing money and opportunities over everything else.” [11:48]
The conversation intensifies as Lavar Arrington discusses the perilous influence agents can wield over young athletes and their families. He underscores the potential for agents to exploit athletes, especially those from disadvantaged backgrounds, leading to familial discord and compromised personal values.
Lavar Arrington states:
“Agents are turning athletes into commodities. They’re now viewing your son as an asset, which is a sad commentary on our society.” [11:10]
This segment brings to light the ethical dilemmas and the urgent need for stringent regulations to protect student-athletes from predatory practices.
Furthering the discourse, the panel addresses the unionization of student-athletes, a critical development influenced by the executive order. The conversation pivots to the complexities of athletes being recognized as employees and the implications this holds for their rights and the broader collegiate athletic framework.
Jonas Knox (Brady Quinn) provides insight:
“Recognizing athletes as employees opens the door for unionization, which could fundamentally change the dynamics of college sports.” [14:39]
Lavar Arrington probes deeper into the uncertainties surrounding this shift:
“Once you have to acknowledge athletes as employees, it breaks down the established barriers. Who are they employees to? The university? The athletic department?” [14:00]
The discussion highlights the need for clear definitions and frameworks to navigate this transition, ensuring that student-athletes' educational and personal development remains paramount.
In the second hour of the show, Albert Breer, a senior NFL reporter and lead content strategist at MMQB, joins the panel to discuss the tumultuous state of the NFL Players Association (NFLPA). Breer provides an in-depth analysis of the recent controversies surrounding the NFLPA, including allegations of collusion and conflicts of interest that have eroded player trust.
Albert Breer addresses the issues:
“The NFLPA is facing an unprecedented crisis of confidence among players, largely due to recent revelations of collusion and mishandled negotiations.” [25:26]
Collusion and Trust Crisis:
Breer explains how the exposure of collusion within the NFLPA has led to a significant decline in trust among players. The union's inability to effectively represent player interests has sparked calls for leadership changes and structural reforms.
Leadership and Structural Challenges:
The discussion touches on the potential leadership changes within the NFLPA, including the possibility of Don Davis taking a more prominent role to restore faith and transparency within the organization.
Legal and Antitrust Implications:
Breer delves into the antitrust exemptions that have historically benefited the NFL. He speculates on how these exemptions could be jeopardized if the union's actions continue to face legal challenges, potentially reshaping the future of labor relations in the NFL.
Impact on Player Contracts and Negotiations:
The erosion of trust in the NFLPA has direct implications on contract negotiations and collective bargaining agreements. Breer suggests that players may seek alternative forms of representation or push for more individual negotiations to safeguard their interests.
Brady Quinn adds:
“The legacy antitrust exemption is at stake here. This could fundamentally alter the power dynamics between the NFL and its players.” [28:14]
Jonas Knox emphasizes the long-term consequences:
“If the NFLPA fails to address these issues, it could lead to more players disengaging from the union, further weakening collective bargaining power.” [28:19]
As the episode progresses, the panel reflects on the broader implications of these developments. The convergence of political influence through executive orders and internal organizational crises within major sports leagues signals a transformative period for both collegiate and professional athletics.
Bob Crawford wraps up the discussion:
“With these changes on the horizon, both in college sports and the NFL, it’s crucial for all stakeholders to prioritize transparency, fairness, and the well-being of the athletes.” [48:29]
Brady Quinn concurs, emphasizing the need for proactive measures:
“We need to ensure that athletes are protected and that their rights are upheld, whether they are in college or the pros.” [54:55]
The episode serves as a pivotal conversation on the intersections of politics, labor relations, and athlete representation, offering listeners a comprehensive understanding of the challenges and opportunities that lie ahead in the sports world.
Bob Crawford [05:52]:
“With this executive order, the President is looking to bring clarity and consistency to NIL regulations across the country.”
Jonas Knox / Brady Quinn [06:23]:
“One of the primary objectives is uniformity. Currently, NIL and even high school eligibility rules differ from state to state, giving some states an undue advantage over others.”
Lavar Arrington [11:10]:
“Agents are turning athletes into commodities. They’re now viewing your son as an asset, which is a sad commentary on our society.”
Albert Breer [25:26]:
“The NFLPA is facing an unprecedented crisis of confidence among players, largely due to recent revelations of collusion and mishandled negotiations.”
Brady Quinn [28:14]:
“The legacy antitrust exemption is at stake here. This could fundamentally alter the power dynamics between the NFL and its players.”
This episode of The Dan Patrick Show masterfully navigates through pivotal issues shaping the future of sports. From the enforcement of national NIL standards under Trump’s administration to the internal turmoil within the NFLPA, listeners are provided with an insightful analysis backed by expert opinions and firsthand accounts. The thoughtful discourse not only elucidates the challenges at hand but also underscores the necessity for reforms that prioritize athlete welfare and equitable representation.
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