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Covino or Rich (Fox Sports Radio Hosts)
Yeah, we got up there right now. If you could wave a magic wand and make one of these go away. Paul sent this over earlier. The tush push, intentional walks, load management or other, you could make one of these things go away. Just wave the magic wand.
Dan Patrick
Well, I would say load management has a bigger impact on an entire sport than the tush push or an intentional walk. So I would say the magnitude of load management, I'd like to do away with that. I don't know how you do away with that. I don't know how you make these players want to play 75 games. I don't think there's any personal pride in that. I'm going to play through an injury. I get it. There's a lot of money at stake. They're probably like, I don't want to jeopardize anything. The intentional walk, as I said in the first hour, I think you must acknowledge that I can't get you out and I'm going to make you throw those four pitches. Either that or you walk to the plate and you escort the hitter to first base. The tush push, I don't think is back next year. I just don't. Can't officiate it. Plain and simple. That's it. They can't get it right. And this will be enough for the commissioner to say, we just can't officiate it, can't do it correctly. For the life of me, I don't know why they can't, but they can. And I think that'll be the reason why we get rid of that. What other poll questions do we have?
Covino or Rich (Fox Sports Radio Hosts)
Especially because you're looking at everything. Everyone's watching all of this in slow motion. And when you watch the Tush Push in slow motion, you can see seven different errors made at one time that the. I think in real speed, you just can't catch.
Dan Patrick
Well, that was a fumble in the Giants game. If you're going to let Jalen Hurts continue to move his legs, that's a fumble. And they missed that. They've had offsides that they've missed numerous times. Where they spot the ball is, you know, sometimes up to anybody's guess. I think that they'll just say, now, you know, when we talk to Dean Blandino, who used to be the head of officials, now works for Fox, he said that he thought, or at least what. And I want to be careful what I say, paraphrasing that because the Eagles won the super bowl, you can't go in there and all of a sudden say, we're going to get rid of that play. Because then it feels like you're trying to penalize the Eagles because they won the Super Bowl. If they don't win the super bowl, then you have the owner's meetings in March. Then I think you could probably take this out. And I, I do think it'll be gone from the game just because. Because they can't find the injury data. There have been a couple of guys banged up, but not enough where you go, oh, you know, like concussions that, that I think being able to officiate this is the most important part of this. And the league can fall back on that and say, no, we're not going to allow this anymore because too many bodies, we can't spot the ball. And basically we haven't done a good job with this.
Marvin
Yeah, Paul, I was thinking, what type of language would a league have to declare the Tush push dead? Because it's going to be really tough for them to get rid of it. Now, clearly you want to get rid of the two people pushing from behind, and they kind of did that where you have to start back. You can't be up against them. How about this? I was looking at a top shot of the Tush push, and all the players are in like a flying wedge. On a normal Eagles play, there's a space at least a foot between each lineman. On the tush push, they are shoulder to shoulder and they're pointed inwards from a top shot. If they could somehow remove the lineup, the spacing or add spacing to the play and make spacing permanent, they can't do the to push where the guard in the center cannot be shoulder to shoulder. There has to be a gap.
Dan Patrick
Okay, but on a quarterback sneak. Yes. Are they. Are they shoulder to shoulder?
Marvin
On a normal quarterback sneak by their team, they're shoulder to shoulder in this wedge, pointed in.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but if we allow that, then you can't say, we're not going to let you do it for the tush push. You're letting them in a quarterback sneak be shoulder to shoulder.
Marvin
What I'm saying is, is, you know, there's lots of rules with how the lineman and the receivers have to line up. Imagine if every offensive line had to have gaps between their offensive linemen.
Dan Patrick
But then you have to, you know, now we have to have a different view of the quarterback sneak.
Marvin
I know. I don't know.
Dan Patrick
All you have to do is you can still have a quarterback sneak. You just can't have players behind the quarterback pushing him, that's all. We've had the quarterback sneak since we've had football. Nobody's ever said, we can't officiate this. Right? No one's ever said, I don't know how to officiate a quarterback sneak. Just don't let players behind the quarterback. That's all. Problem solved. And the Eagles will still be highly, highly successful. And now you can't go, well, you can't do that. This would be a normal play. A quarterback sneak is a normal play. Yes, but I, you know, if you.
Covino or Rich (Fox Sports Radio Hosts)
Took that play out of their playbook, I don't know if they still would.
Dan Patrick
Be highly successful at quarterback sneaks.
Covino or Rich (Fox Sports Radio Hosts)
I mean, to some degree they would be, but not nearly. They wouldn't have the record that they have now if they weren't able to do that play.
Dan Patrick
I think that there is data that shows on quarterback sneaks, they were just as successful prior to this tush push, doing the tush push because they had a great offensive line. Now, I don't know what that, like 89% of the time they were going to get the first down, something like that. But I do believe because of Jalen Hurts, here's a guy who can squat 600 pounds. There's no other quarterback built like him. I mean, we see Josh Allen, he's too tall and he got stopped in Kansas City during the playoffs. But with Jalen Hurts, that offensive line there now, it would help if they called off offsides where the, you know, guards are, are jumping a little bit. That would be beneficial, I think, to everybody. But I think that they, if they ran quarterback sneaks and you took out the, we're not allowed to block the quarterback from behind, they'd still be successful.
Marvin
Yeah, Paul, over the past three seasons, the Eagles are 92% on quarterback sneaks. The rest of the league is 83%.
Dan Patrick
Okay, yeah, they'd still be successful, but for the life of me, I, I don't know why they would go, yeah, we're going to allow you to push from behind. But they did so the NFL put themselves in this position a long time ago. All right, Steve Young will join us. Coming up, we will settle on a new poll question as well. I'm looking at the super bowl odds. Kansas City with the impressive win last night as they beat the Commanders. The Chiefs and the lions have the two best odds according to DraftKings this morning. Then it's the packers and the Bills. The Colts are still in there. That's going to be. Let's see what you do in the postseason. Really feels that way with the Colts. Yeah. Good story. Let's see what you do when you have to win a game. Yes. Marvin, do they feel like the Vikings from last year where the Vikings started out hot and was like, yeah, we're just not sure because of your quarterback. Like, he's had a great season. But let's see. Yes. Yeah. And I have no problem with that because MVP odds, Patrick Mahomes is your, is your leader. Then it's Josh Allen, Drake May, and then a big jump to Matthew Stafford, Baker Mayfield, then Daniel Jones, then Jonathan Taylor and then Jordan Love. But those are the updated odds off last night with Kansas City improving to 5 and 38773 DP show Sam and Philly. Hi, Sam. What's on your mind today?
Caller/Guest
Hey, how are you? I am calling about the Tush push. So is it actually hard to officiate or are they choosing to just be.
Dan Patrick
Bad at officiating it?
Caller/Guest
Because as an Eagles fan, that was definitely a fumble that they botched the call on on Sunday.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Caller/Guest
And then responding, they got the chips in the ball. They can call off sides on every other play. I think they're just trying to make.
Dan Patrick
The case to get rid of it. Yeah. I don't know if they're purposely Being bad officials. But I don't know how you missed that fumble because if Jalen Hurts is still moving, the line is still moving, you know, if. If Jalen Hurts gives himself up, okay? But he didn't. And the Giants stripped the ball. To me, that was a fumble. Dave in Connecticut. Hi, Dave. What's on your mind?
Caller/Guest
Hey, man. Hey. Yes, I agree with the previous caller. I just don't see how eliminating the push is going to change the officiating challenge that we're having. The chips in the ball is one way to do it, but you still have the downfield pushing that's happening. And I just don't see how changing the push is going to make it easier to officiate.
Dan Patrick
But nobody ever said we can't officiate a quarterback sneak. I don't remember in my 60 years of watching professional football where somebody goes, how do you call? You know, I don't know what's going on. I can't see. I think we allowed the officials to have sort of gray area there that we didn't go. That seems like a bad spot. And we didn't have all these cameras. Keep in mind, when I'm growing up, you know, you might have had one angle and that was it. There wasn't replay for something like this. Now it feels like we get to see everything and all of a sudden it's like, wait a minute now. You shouldn't miss offsides. You shouldn't miss motion. Let's just start right there. It's really clear. Everybody is right next bunched in. Did somebody move before the ball was snapped? Yes, they did. That's all, that's, that's really easy. Spotting the ball, hopefully with the chip, that would help. But if you're still moving and I knock the ball out, that's a fumble. And that's where the officials, they just haven't been able to call it correctly consistently, I should say. Brian in la. Hi, Brian. What's on your mind today?
Caller/Guest
I want to share a quick start.
Dan Patrick
Of the day with you. I know we are all praising Shohei.
Caller/Guest
And Will Klein and Freddie Freeman for last night's performance. But there is one unsung hero, and that is country superstar Brad Paisley. You see, Brad Paisley played the national anthem before last night's ending in Freddie Freeman's walk up. He also played the national anthem last year in game one, ending in Freddie Freeman's walk up.
Dan Patrick
He also played in 2018, ending the.
Caller/Guest
Longest World Series game with Justin Turner's home run.
Dan Patrick
So the real hero of today is Mr. Brad Paisley all right? My. My former video mate. What was that? Gone fishing. Is that the video I did with Brad Paisley? Long, long time ago. I have a plaque somewhere or one of those records. That is it down the hallway? Yes, out in the hallway. Yeah. Yeah, he sent me that. Richie called for Brad Paisley? Why not? We like him. All right. Yeah.
Marvin
Paul, if you're the Dodgers, do you bring Brad Paisley back or save it for when you need it?
Dan Patrick
Well, it have to be either tomorrow, Tonight. Tomorrow.
Marvin
You don't push it.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Caller/Guest
Mm.
Dan Patrick
I would keep it special. I'd keep it special if I'm Brad Paisley. You want to be associated with those great moments in dodger history. You don't want to get out there. And then all of a sudden, they lose, like, eight nothing. And the people go, oh, you got to be kidding me. Yeah. Do we have the. I think Anthony found the Brad Paisley. Was that a platinum record that he has gone fishing. Yeah, there it is. Yeah. Brad, if you're watching on peacock, that's what Brad Paisley gave me for being in the music video with him. And at the time, I didn't realize that that was his wife or going to be his wife. And. And wasn't she in parent trap or parenthood?
Caller/Guest
Oh, Williams.
Dan Patrick
Williams. And she was there with him. She. They came up to sports center.
Marvin
Kimberly Williams.
Dan Patrick
Yes.
Marvin
Big time actress.
Covino or Rich (Fox Sports Radio Hosts)
Oh, yeah. I remember.
Dan Patrick
So into my office, and we're just talking. I think he just said, this is my wife or my fiance or my girlfriend. Kimberly. But I. I didn't realize that she was in Parenthood.
Marvin
Father of the bride.
Dan Patrick
Oh, okay.
Marvin
She was a star. Father of the bride and part two.
Dan Patrick
Oh, okay.
Marvin
Checking.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. And then I remember he. He wanted to come in and talk to me about doing the introduction for this VI video. And they left. And then there are all these people in the newsroom at the mother's mothership were like, oh, man, that guy had. You know, they knew her. They didn't necessarily know Brad Paisley. And then I'm like, oh, she's an actress. I'm like, yeah, she's an actress. I'm like, okay. Yeah.
Marvin
Paul, Kimberly Williams is also in the brand new hit 911 Nashville.
Dan Patrick
Oh, okay.
Marvin
New show. I just saw that they're using a lot of country stars in that show.
Dan Patrick
Well, they're from Nashville.
Marvin
Yep.
Dan Patrick
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Caller/Guest
Patrick as close as anybody, right? I mean that's. That's as close as you get. But no show how you Tani. I mean, I mean, pitch and to hit. That's. I always just make fun of baseball in front of my baseball friends. Like, you know, I got a blister for 15 days, you know. You know, it's like then they go 162 games versus 16. Like, you know, we just go back and forth. But. But baseball, when you're pitching the ball, when you're pitching and shutting people out and then hitting home run, that, that game a couple weeks ago, that was the old timer. So, no, Patrick Mahomes is the one guy right now that I would put in that spot. But there are some Superman, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, when he's healthy, Superman, you know, there's some cool people to watch. That's for sure entertaining.
Dan Patrick
Knowing that we were going to have you on today. I was thinking about this last night, watching Patrick Mahomes keep a play alive. The. The difference between keeping a play alive and what these younger quarterbacks do in kind of scrambling it, you know, is it semantics here because Mahomes seems to always do something correct where these younger guys try to extend a play and they end up getting sacked.
Caller/Guest
Dan, you're bringing up the most important question in sports because the NFL is the biggest sporting game and the quarterback the most important position. This is the most important question for quarterbacks because the game today, of course, we talk about every week or whenever. I'm on about the fact that it's now game that's wide open and you have to attack the line of scrimmage from the quarterback position or else you're out. And so then becomes the question that I had to deal with my whole life is when do you go.
Dan Patrick
And.
Caller/Guest
What are we doing while we're waiting? And I think that's. And then how do you coach it? So many really smart quarterback coaches are now having to adjust and figure out how do I coach a guy who can move around and can threaten the line of scrimmage. And so young players like I think of Justin Fields right now going through this incredible challenge of when, like the incredible athlete, right? I can do amazing things, yet I need to be a sophisticated pastor. I know it. I know in my heart that's what I've got to become. And so how do I hang in there and fake it till I make it kind of thing? And then when do I need to go? Because I don't really know. I'm not really sure. So I really got to lean on my athleticism. So the question of the day is that how do I. How do I know? And Patrick Mahomes says we find it where he doesn't move unless it's purposeful. And because he owns the data, he's smart, he's been around a long time. He is a sophisticated passer from the pocket. And so that allows him to get the most out of every play. And when you get the most out every play, then you know when the play is dead, when it's done, or I don't have a choice, I'll go. And once I go, that's a whole other play to play that. That's a play we didn't call, but it's a play we get. And now I get another chance to run the. Run a new play on offense, and then I have another play, a third play. I'm actually going to run it. And he. And he has that unique ability of body. It's like he doesn't even really try and. Or he's kind of like gliding and people are missing and he's like. So there's. There's three really distinct plays for Patrick. And when you really understand the game, you can't. That's how it's so hard to stop. And the young players, they have three plays, but they don't run them right. And they're trying to figure out how to run them.
Dan Patrick
Can you single out the greatest season a quarterback has ever had?
Caller/Guest
No, because it's error adjusted. You got different times and places of, you know, it's impossible to me. There are some amazing years that people have had. But I mean, obviously, I guess you've got to be the MVP and run, win the super bowl to make it that list.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Caller/Guest
And then it becomes pretty subjective to people about what, you know, how old they are when it happened, and, you know, who they liked and, you know, that kind of thing.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, because I'm looking at Mahomes and I'm thinking while watching Otania, I'm witnessing the greatest baseball player of all time. I am, I'm watching it, right? I got to see Michael Jordan play. I'm witnessing that firsthand. And I'm watching Mahomes, and he's not the greatest quarterback of all time, but I'm watching him play a position that's the toughest position in all the sports. And he plays it in such a unique way. And he's played it where he throws for 50 touchdowns and then he throws for 25 touchdowns and is still as effective.
Caller/Guest
Yeah, I think. Okay, first of all, let's. Let's back up. I mean, real Quickly, a little history lesson. We do this every time. Ten years ago, they changed the rules, and the rules where you can't launch defenders in the head first. And so it opened the game up, and so it changed so that now you can run college plays, you can run the slip screens, you can run all the cool stuff and fun stuff. And Patrick is the person for today's game. And then, let's not kid ourselves, the innovative minds who jumped into that rule change. Andy Reid, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVeigh, Sean Paton. Those are the big four that jumped in and had a tactical advantage for a little while. So you've married one of the most innovative minds and continually innovative, Andy Reid with Patrick Mahomes. That's what I watch every week. I do. I don't watch just Patrick Mahomes every week. I watch Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes every week. And how they have combined to create all this fun stuff. And then Patrick refined his game. I appreciate what you're saying, Dan. This is a time for us to watch Patrick Mahomes and just sit back in awe of the athleticism, the brain, the intuition, and the presence. One thing I remember when I watched him Monday night, I was there in Denver when he first started, and he was. He was. I was standing around the sidelines, and I. And I have a. I've watched quarterbacks my whole life, and I had this feeling. It's like he looks like he's playing the backyard. Like, just his prep. This is how he feels. Like. It's just nothing, really. He's kind of laughing and having a good time. And here's his first start. He's scrambling left and right. At the end of the scramble, he. He takes the ball from his right and throws it and puts it his left and throws it for completion. Maybe Kelsey or something. I can't remember. And I'm like. And then he stood up. He's like. How about. I think he said. He said to the ref, how about that? And I thought to myself, I could only dream of being that guy that could just, like, be in the backyard, but yet playing the best football in the world. I think he's. He's. He's a magical person.
Dan Patrick
Talking to Steve Young, the Hall of Famer. Give me the team that you're still not sure about.
Caller/Guest
How about a list, meaning the Eagles? I. I don't. I'm not sure, really. Packers. I'm not sure. They're getting more sure. Obviously. Last week, the last. Last week was the truth. When I. Every game was like, well, that's the truth. And so the truth throughout the league was we've been met. We went through the preseason of September. We've kind of figured out who we are. Now we're gonna, you know, now we're gonna tell you the truth. And that's why the Eagles, I think, were, you know, and the Giants, that was the truth. And the packers was the true. And so there's a lot of teams, the Rams like. Like, I'm getting to know those teams that figure that they're going to be there in the end and. But who do you want to talk about? Because, I mean, I think, like, the.
Dan Patrick
Colts, it feels like we're going to wait until the postseason to go.
Caller/Guest
I told you, haven't done it. Daniel Jones, like, the Colts, like, it's just you. We're all, we're all history majors, right? And so the Colts are not that historical. Last 10, 15 years, like, oh, yeah, the Colts will be there. Now the Chiefs, you know, you got to figure they're going to be there. And their Bills, or you feel they'll be the. Figure they'll be there. The Eagles and even the Packers. I understand all that. The Colts, they. They always have to figure out how to prove it to you in January, February. That's just because they're new. When you're new, you got it. No one cares. Like, hey, this is fun. This is nice. But all right, we'll. We'll see you. We'll see in January when you go to Kansas City.
Dan Patrick
Kansas City's got the Bills coming up. They got a bye week. They're at the Broncos. They host the Colts. Fun, tough, sledding.
Caller/Guest
But I always said regular season. I mean, when we played the Cowboys in regular season, whoever won that game's.
Dan Patrick
Like, you know.
Caller/Guest
It didn't. It mattered, but it didn't matter. I just, it wasn't the thing. It'll. It's a sign. It's important. It's not nothing. But it's also not January, so I think there's a difference. You have to make sure you keep that in mind.
Dan Patrick
But how do you try harder at the quarterbacking position as a regular season game against the Cowboys and then a postseason game?
Caller/Guest
It always reminded me during the week when you had a big game coming up and you have some quote from one of the other teams, defensive line, like, we're going to. We're going to get Steve Young work. I'm going to. I'm so focused. I'm like, really? I mean, honestly, like, you're More focused to kill me than the week before when you wanted to go, like, stop. And that's why I think even from the teams and quarterbacks, like, there's. It is an emotional game. That's why Newt. Rocky's famous, right? Because he made a speech like, oh, we're great. Like it is. You have to be inspired to go run into people. So it does matter and it does. And you can get lulls of emotion and you see games where people are flat and it really shows up in football. But trying extra hard that really, the best teams, Dan, don't. It's like they don't look like they're trying extra hard. Like they, they're still focused, they're still, they're mature about it, right? It's like we come out of the locker room, we're. We're actually not care. We don't care who we play. We know that we're about trying to find out how good we are. And that's what we. That's our quest. And so this. If you're. If you think you're pretty good, great, come on in, we'll check you out and we'll see. I'll see how we stand. The mature teams don't rock, you know, get up. Oh, my gosh, this is the game. And then the next week, like, oh, flat. That's the Cowboys, right? That's. That's how they roll. And, and that's not as mature.
Dan Patrick
When we were. I was growing up and playing football, you're always cognizant of, this is going to hurt. I'm going to get hit. This is going to hurt. Like, when do you graduate to. You don't think about. That's going to hurt when I get hit. Do you graduate to that point where you don't think about it?
Caller/Guest
I will tell you, Dad, I think that's probably why you're not pro. Because I don't think I ever really thought to myself, oh, this is. But I will say I. Football is the truth. And no one ever at the moment of impact thinks, oh, I'm getting paid. You might think about it when you're in line of scrimmage, you think, man, I'm getting paid and this is good. And then all of a sudden the game and then. So when you get hit. And that's why football is such an amazing game, because there is a truth to it that no one, no one's. No one cares at the moment of impact who's. Who's getting paid, what. And that's what really Matters. And that's probably. I.
Dan Patrick
No, I think. Hold on here. I think we got a. We lost you a little bit. Wait, are you back now? Can you hear.
Caller/Guest
I'm here.
Dan Patrick
You got it? Okay. Yeah, that you chopped up a little bit there. So whatever that genius was that you were saying. Yeah, I'm sure. Very insightful.
Caller/Guest
There's so many guys that start in the league, and they're the most amazing athletes in the, in the league. And then they find their way out of the, out of the game in three or four years. You're like, what happened to that guy? Well, what happened to that guy is he didn't love football. He worried. He thought about, wow, this is going to hurt. Like, it. The game itself, there's a love for it, that the pro game forces you. It's a referendum on whether you love it or not. And I've seen a lot of amazing athletes that just don't love it in the game. Pro game, the college game doesn't force you out like that. The cheerleaders and the alumni and all that stuff. But pro game, it's the referendum. And the guys leave the game because you just said, this is gonna hurt. And then they just. And the guys that play forever, they actually never think about it, which is weird.
Dan Patrick
But you got hurt, you got hit. You suffered concussions, but. But you never thought, God, that hurts, or this is gonna hurt, that you see somebody coming right at you, God, this is gonna hurt.
Caller/Guest
Well, I remember I, I, I, I, the fridge. Remember William the fridge, prepare 380. You know, his football card said 350. If you admit 350, you're. You're 4, 10. And I remember he got me up under my chin, right? Straight up, and then was popping me over and was going to land on. I thought, I'm gonna die. Like, this is it. I'm gonna be. There's no way my body can withstand this. And it did. It didn't. I thought it would break. It didn't break, which is crazy. I did. It did take the wind out of me, but it didn't break me. But I, I think, yeah, there's, here's. I'll say it. If it hurts during the game, you, you're gonna. It's gonna be a problem the next week. Like usually adrenaline and everything else, you don't really notice. And then after the game in the shower, you're like, holy crap, that hurts. But then that's something that's going to give, you know, you'll figure out by Wednesday. But if it Hurts during the game and you're on the sidelines and like, man, then you. You got a problem. That's how you know.
Dan Patrick
Well, like, Cam scatter. Boo. So dislocates his ankle. But he's. I don't know if the body protects you in that moment, or they're shocked because he. He's pointing. He knows that it's serious, but it doesn't look like he's in agony. And I don't know what happens to the body in a moment like that where you see guys blow out their knee or, you know, have devastating injuries and then they get carted off and they're giving a thumbs up to the crowd. I'd be weeping.
Caller/Guest
Yeah, I. I think sometimes I would say that I didn't have anything terrible ever happen, which I'm grateful for. But the guys that I know who did talk about it as if. Especially in the. When it's kind of blown out, it doesn't like, it doesn't hurt like it. The pains, you know, already happened. But it just depends. But I'm telling you, the toughest human beings I. I have ever known played football. I'm sure I wasn't in a lot of other spots where the tough human beings hang out, but I did hang out in football. And. And I'm telling you there, I. I remember going back to my Tampa Bay days, the season I played in Tampa with James Wilder. James Wilder, running back from Missouri, and we were 2 and 14. And I remember thinking, like, you guys are losers. I'm like, have you met James Wilder? That dude is not a loser. That means the toughest human being I think I've ever met in my life. And that's the other thing that you just. You don't realize that so many guys are toiling in the NFL that you don't know that are the toughest bastards that ever lived.
Dan Patrick
I mean, yeah, but you gave him the ball 350 times. The poor guy.
Caller/Guest
Make up some number like, you got. You're that fast. You're not that fast with the stats.
Dan Patrick
Okay, Paulie, would you check and see? Wilder, I think, has had the most carries in a season in NFL history.
Marvin
I think it was like, 407. For the record, we're checking.
Caller/Guest
You got your vault. Just trying to. Come on. Don't shut.
Dan Patrick
Why didn't you throw the ball a little bit? Steve gave it to James Wilder.
Caller/Guest
The greatest story of James Wilder. We're in the blizzard in Green Bay, and you probably heard, I'm sorry if I repeat this story, and I'D not completed a ball. I'm like, over 11. And it's like the second quarter, and I'm like, my first game ever played or second game I've ever played in the NFL. I turn to James, I go, james, jump in front of me, and I'm going to shovel the ball to you. So I have a completion, because I'm afraid I don't want to be the only quarterback in the history of the game that didn't have a completion. So you can see his stats that day. It's Wilder, one catch, minus four.
Dan Patrick
Paulie, do you have the numbers there on Wilder?
Marvin
The most carries James Wilder had for Tampa was 1984. 407 carries, 1544 yards.
Caller/Guest
And he. And you talk about feeling every one of them like he was a tough man. And so that's what I. I guess what you're saying is there's guys that are ready for the game because they are the toughest humans you ever met.
Dan Patrick
Do you have your Tampa jersey framed?
Caller/Guest
No, I don't have any frame, but I think I have a Tampa jersey. I'm very proud of this. You know, it was funny that season. It was fun to be in a team that was so dysfunctional, but yet such good guys. But just the culture, the leadership, it was just a mess. It was a total mess because I.
Dan Patrick
Would have one that was game used. Because you probably have grass stains and turf all.
Caller/Guest
But here's the problem. So we have these orange jerseys, but because they can't find any material that's orange, they get it from somewhere where it's thick. It's like this thick. You could almost fold it and it would make a crease. You know what I mean?
Dan Patrick
Like, and it was hot down there.
Caller/Guest
Does anyone know we're in Tampa? Like, where's the match, bro? Just plug gets me some orange mesh. Why do we have to have this thick, like, Canadian Goose jersey? This is stupid stuff like that. You're just like, come on, man. Like, let's get this figured out.
Dan Patrick
Good to talk to you again, Daniel.
Caller/Guest
Good man.
Dan Patrick
Thank you, Steve. That's Steve Young. He didn't get hurt. I remember getting hit one time, and I was like, I don't want to play this sport. I could throw, but I just didn't want to get hit. And I remember they brought me back for an alumni game. I didn't even play high school football. And they said, we don't have a quarterback. Would you play quarterback? And I remember going to the line of scrimmage, and my offensive guard, he weighed, I'm going to guess, 150 pounds. And we had guys on the other side who played football in college. And I it was one of the worst decisions I ever made in my life because all I kept thinking is those guys over there played in the Mid American Conference and they're going to hurt me. And it brought back all those memories where I'm like, I don't want to play. And they're like, we don't have a quarterback in the even. It was even versus odd years for a high school alumni football game. We lost six. Nothing. Case you care. Yeah, you didn't. All right, we'll take a break. Kevin Millar, top of the hour, recapping the game last night in Los Angeles and Reggie Miller as well. We're back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live Life's messy.
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Marvin
Paul Vijay Edgecombe. He is hot to start the season. Looked great last night.
Caller/Guest
Yep.
Dan Patrick
Okay, so he's had 26, 34 and so over 19 and a half points.
Marvin
Taking the over.
Caller/Guest
Todd.
Dan Patrick
I like VJ too. That's what I was going to say. Okay, Seaton, you said giannis. Giannis over 12 and a half rebounds and he's going against one of the great big men of all time, Carl Anthony Town, nbd. Yeah. Who are you taking?
Covino or Rich (Fox Sports Radio Hosts)
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Dan Patrick
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Marvin
Paul, your boy Austin Reeves, 41 last night. Dalton connect off the bench. Getting some run with the injury. 16.
Dan Patrick
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Caller/Guest
Oh, hang on a second, Brian.
Dan Patrick
Hey, Dan. Hey, Sean.
Caller/Guest
Hey, I'm totally stoked about the Dodgers, but what I'm really calling about is Friday night's game with the Blazers and Warriors. You know, after everything the Trailblazers have been going through, it was great to see him snap a nine game losing streak in dominating fashion. Get a 20 point, 20 point win with interim coach Thiago Splitter.
Dan Patrick
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It starts with a dream, a nature.
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Dan Patrick
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Date: October 28, 2025
Host: Dan Patrick (with Fox Sports Radio contributors and callers)
Guest: Steve Young, Hall of Famer, Super Bowl MVP
This hour of The Dan Patrick Show centers on two main threads: the current controversy over the NFL’s “tush push” quarterback sneak play—its outcomes, officiating, and regulatory future—and a deep, insightful conversation with Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young. The episode features Dan and his crew’s signature blend of humor, insider knowledge, and lively fan engagement, with notable moments dissecting Mahomes’ quarterbacking genius and the true physical toll of pro football.
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This episode is a sports fan’s deep-dive into current gridiron controversies, the evolution of quarterback greatness, and the underappreciated toughness of pro football players—all delivered with Dan Patrick’s distinctive wit and warmth, and enriched by Steve Young’s firsthand wisdom and storytelling.