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Paulie
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Dan Patrick
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Paulie
After that, nothing is scheduled. So Atlanta, the next three San Francisco, Los Angeles, Atlanta, 2029 is up in the air and everything forward.
Dan Patrick
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Paulie
It does show, though, the difference between even backup quarterback money and starting running back money in the NFL. It's pretty close. Like you would have to be a pretty good NFL running back to make more than $5 million a year these days. And I think that's probably pretty average for a backup quarterback.
Dan Patrick
Well, let's look at backup quarterbacks from last year. You had Jared Stidham with The Broncos made 6 million. Marcus Mariota made 6 million with the Commanders. Tyrod Taylor made 6 million with the Jets. Now that's a high end. Backup Trey Lance made 5.3 million with the Cowboys. Drew Locke 5 million with the Giants. Joe Flacco made 4 1/2 with the Colts. And then who's your guy? What is it? Tyler Bagen? Tyson Bagent. Tyson Bagent, is he Division 2? Yes. Okay. He signed a two year deal I think for $10 million with the Bears. And this was his reaction yesterday. You know, a lot of people don't know this, but you know, my dad is my, he's my right hand man and he didn't, he didn't have running water until he was in high school. So there's definitely a lot of things.
Paulie
That, and people that I could, that.
Dan Patrick
I think I could certainly help with this gift I've been blessed with. But yeah, just little things like that. You know, I don't really know anybody back at home with any money. So yeah, it feels good. I mean it's certainly a weight off.
Paulie
My shoulders and my family shoulders and yeah, it definitely means a lot.
Dan Patrick
Oh, good for him. He got the opportunity. We know what it means to him. He doesn't come from money. He's going to make more by December than Isaiah Pacheco has made as the starting in his career as the running back. Starting running back for the Kansas City Chiefs. But Tyson Bagent, and it's a two year deal for 10 million, could go up to $16 million. And you're signing these guys and you hope they don't play because if they do play, then something happened to your starter. But if you're a good team, playoff team, then you're going to, you might rely on those guys or have to rely on those guys to salvage a season. And you know, it pays to be a backup quarterback if you're getting five or six million dollars to be a backup. And you know the fan base is hoping you don't play. The team is probably hoping you don't play because that means the starter got injured. Yeah, Paulie, I've got the updated salaries.
Paulie
And guys like Tyrod Taylor, he's making 6 million again this year and there's a guy who's going to make $40 million in his career. A couple chances to start. But you know, Kenny Pickett's making three. Mason Rudolph is making four million.
Dan Patrick
Davis Mills making five million to hopefully never play.
Paulie
Nick Mullins makes three, et cetera, et cetera.
Dan Patrick
Who do you.
Paulie
I don't know if we could do this technically. Who is the highest paid backup quarterback.
Dan Patrick
In the NFL right now?
Paulie
A bit of a trick question.
Dan Patrick
I'll give you a Hint.
Paulie
He makes $45 million this upcoming season. Sean Kirk Cousins.
Dan Patrick
Kirk D. Cousins.
Paulie
He is listed as second string. He's making $45 million for this season.
Dan Patrick
Former NFL running back hall of Famer Eric Dickerson was on the Fred Rogan and Rodney Pete radio show on AM570 and he had this to say about teams not drafting Shador Sanders. And I'll tell you this much here. What I what I heard from someone that's in the NFL that the NFL put it told other don't draft him. Do not draft him. We're gonna make him. We're gonna make an example out of him. And this came from a very good source, a very good source. And he said that I won't say who. Somebody called the Cleveland Browns and said, don't do that. Really? Yep. Draft him. Don't, don't, don't do that. Because they weren't going to draft it either. They weren't going to draft it. All right. I brought this up after the draft because I had a source with the Browns who told me that maybe ownership had some say in this to draft Shador Sanders. Because it came out of nowhere. He was falling, falling, falling, falling, falling. You draft Dylan Gabriel, then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, they take Shador Sanders. I believe that Eric Dickerson believes this is true. I don't believe it's true. I don't think the NFL would say to all of these owners, don't drafting. We want to make an example. There's other players you could have made an example out of. Shador Sanders just interviewed poorly. He came in entitled now, this is from somebody who sat in in an interview and he came in with an attitude and it was basically you're I'm interviewing you, not the other way around. I don't know if that's why it was such a free fall there. Was I surprised that he fell to the fifth round. Yes. Because I do think that he is a tough kid. Obviously he knows football. He's been around the spotlight, and I don't think he shied away from a big moment. But I don't know his personality. We haven't had him on. But what I was told by Somebody who was in there is. He came in, he's interviewing teams to see if he wanted to go play for you. But I can't imagine, like who calls who from the NFL, says, hey, Jerry Jones, or I mean, throw out, and all of these owners so every team, because he fell to the fifth round. I don't know how it stays a secret this, this amount of time with the number of insiders out there that you would think this would get leaked. Now, whether it's true or not, from what my source told me that Jimmy Haslam had the heavy hand in, in, you know, he instructed the team to take Shador Sanders. That's what I was told. Whether that's true or not, we may never know. Do I think that the NFL owners could agree on everything as far as Shador Sanders? I mean, there's collusion with maybe guaranteed contracts. I understand that, but I don't know if these owners are going to go. Mike Brown in Cincinnati is going to go. Just got a call. We're not taking Shador Sanders. His grades were all over the place because he doesn't do anything exceptionally well. Like, he's not fast, he's not big. You know, he's got a good arm. He, he's, he's, he knows the game, he knows how to play the game. And I think the feel for the game is really important. But when you don't interview well and I, I have a friend who was a former. He wasn't a manager, but he interviewed to be a manager in Major League Baseball. And he said he found out that he interviewed poorly and he didn't know this because he just, he didn't get jobs. But he interviewed. But he interviewed poorly. Now, he didn't go in there with attitude as much as he didn't tell them what they wanted to hear. And I don't know if Shador Sanders went in there and it's like, yeah, okay, how long is this going to take? You want me get on the chalkboard and do some. Okay. And I think the prevailing attitude was Shador came in there entitled and that scared some teams away because he's not a, he wasn't viewed as a marquee talent. Now you'll put up with that stuff if the talent equates to, okay, we can overlook the attitude because the talent's so great. And I think that's what happened with Shador Sanders. But do I think that there was a league wide moratorium on not drafting Shador Sanders? I don't, I don't. But that Was Fred Rogan, Rodney, Pete on their podcast. I'm curious. Like, I've been keeping an eye on the mothership. I don't even think they touched the story. And this is Shador Sanders. What are you guys doing? Somebody's going to get fired at the mothership. Are you kidding me? We missed out on all that clickbait. Shador Sanders. All right, so we'll get some phone calls in here. Albert Breer will join us. And Padres aren't going away. They close in on the Dodgers. And who would have thought the new and improved Rockies roughing up Shohei Otani last night. And his MVP odds went from 8,000 to 6,000. That feels like that's a precipitous drop. Like, oh, my gosh. But he's got such a head start here that it's. It's his mvp. They can have the ceremony now. Yeah, Paulie. Dan.
Paulie
Your Rockies, by the way, are on a hot streak. They've won seven of 10. They're now 37 and 90 and only 35 games out.
Dan Patrick
Okay, Stat of the day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show Ryan in Costa Mesa. Hi, Ryan. What's on your mind today? Hey there, Dan. I had some thoughts on the Jim Harbaugh story. I know you were talking about some precedents there with Jim Trussell and Terrell Prior and stuff like that. I was also thinking about another precedent that's more NFL related, and that was the Spygate scandal with the Patriots. I want to say that kind of.
Paulie
Unfolded around 2007, and I'm pretty positive.
Dan Patrick
Bill Belichick received no suspension for that. And I kind of remember it being pretty similar to what the Wolverines were accused of doing. Yeah, but. But they did give Jim Harbaugh a ten year suspension. It's. It's called show. Cause he was punished by the ncaa. If the NFL doesn't punish Bill Belichick, then they don't punish him. But college football punished him. Jim Trestle got punished by the ncaa. That's the difference. Should. Should Belichick have been involved in that? Probably. I mean, they got one of the largest fines in NFL history and probably should have been suspended. But this, to me, is not apples to apples. But thank you for the phone call. I don't know if the NFL does anything, but you've done it before. Therefore, you have to answer the question. Todd, did you send the email to the NFL home office? We absolutely did. All right, Tim in Orlando. Hi, Tim. What's on your mind? Today. Hey, Dan, thanks for taking my call. 5 6.
Paulie
Down to 145.
Dan Patrick
First of all, in the poll question, Chase Daniels, 100%. And I love Marvin. Calling the Saints. Sorry, but you referenced about streaming sports, you referenced baseball a few weeks ago. And it's just challenging to find a game on television. You don't know where to go or what platform. And I feel like the NFL is going in the same direction. Just one game here and there. You've got to have all of the streaming services available if you want to see all football games. So. Yeah, and thank you, Tim. But here's the difference. Baseball, it feels like almost on purpose is disappearing. I don't know where to find games. ESPN is not going to be carrying baseball. I think NBC is going to pick up a portion of this. It's just so fragmented. But it goes back to what we grew up with when we had the game of the week. I knew where to find it on NBC. Ben Scully would make, you know, he'd be doing the play by play. The NFL. Yes, you got to go to Amazon and yes, you got to go to Netflix, and yes, you got to go to Peacock. But they're banking on the fact that you need the NFL, baseball needs you, you need the NFL. And I think that's the difference. Baseball is all over the place. And ESPN walking away from that tells you a lot of what they think of that product. Now it's going to be fragmented even more, I think, as NBC and Amazon picking it up or. I have no idea. But that's, that's part of the problem. I don't even know how to get these games sometimes. And I love flipping through and just watching a game. Now do I have ESPN plus and do I have Disney and I, my bundle and all of that, it just gets really confusing. Therefore, I usually go to the red zone. I, I just, I, I have to watch something and have some continuity to it and know what's going on across the league. Whereas you're going, okay, what okay, how do I get. I got to get the. Okay, Amazon Thursday night. It's easier now because we, we, you know, we've done it. But baseball, baseball keeps, you know, this fragmentation is just growing and growing. Yes, but we're getting to a point with streaming where people are calling to. Can't there be one sort of central location for all streaming platforms where all of the channels are available, AKA what used to be called air quotes? Cable. Right. We had all of the channels in one place that was called cable. Just like I've seen people calling for it would be cool if there was like a way to like just tune into live podcasts as they were happening. Yes. It's called the radio. It's been, it's been in existence for a very long time. It's called the radio. Slow down. So let me understand when this cable thing right by us again, it's called cable. And yes, we had it that way. We did. Yeah. Podcast. What if you had shows and they're on know the one channel. What if you could just like tune into a place and it had all of these live podcasts at the same time and you could just flip from one to the next? Yes. You've had it in your car since forever. Yes. Marvin. That's like my head explodes every time somebody calls in. You know what? We should regionalize college sports. I know. What do you, how do you think we got the sec, the Big east? What, what do you think the pack in that stand. But that's going to, that'll happen. We will go back to regionalized sports. Baseball's talking about it. College football will go back to regionalized sports as they, whatever their model is, it'll be based off the NFL. But we're going to go back to that. All right, let me take a break. Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback has got to answer some questions here. Tough questions. Have that for you coming up next year. Dan Patrick Show Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. He's Mike Carmen. I'm Dan Byer and we have a.
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Dan Patrick
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Paulie
I thought it was dumb at the time to suspend Trestle, so I don't know that I would support suspension of Harbaugh either. At the same time, I can remember why they did it. And if you remember, it was because they suspended Terrell Pryor. And what they were trying to do, what the NFL was trying to do was they didn't want the pros to be A safe haven for guys to escape punishment from the ncaa. So Terrell Pryor was going to be suspended by the ncaa. So the league said, no, this can't be, you know, an escape from. For you. So we're going to levy a suspense suspension on you the way the NCAA would have coming into the league because he was going into the supplemental draft. And then when Trestle took the job with the Colts, people were like, well, wait a minute, like you force the player to serve the suspension. So now why aren't you doing it to the coach? So I think it became one of those finger in the wind type things for the league where they heard the criticism and said, okay, like, well, we'll give the coach a suspension too. Maybe not thinking about the precedent they were setting. The interesting thing is, though, I think we have had coaches in the past that have run away from the college game to the pros as a method of trying to escape punishment.
Dan Patrick
Right.
Paulie
Like, we've seen that in the past. I think you could argue like that was Pete Carroll. Now, I think Pete would probably argue that, but a lot of people felt that way when he did it. Dennis Erickson, I think leaving Miami was sort of that way. Right? Neither of these guys, I think, I think in neither case, that's what this was. You know, like Jim Trestle, I think would have. Would have. Would have been happy dying on the job at Ohio State. You know, like, I think he would have done that as long as he. That job, as long as he could. He wasn't escaping to the NFL and I don't think Harbaugh was escaping Michigan to go to the NFL either. I think he was going to the NFL regardless. In fact, I think if he had gone to the N. If, if the Vikings had offered him a job two years earlier when Kevin o' Connell took it, I think he would have left Michigan two years earlier than he did, you know. So I don't think in either the, either the Trestle case or the Harbaugh case, it was a guy escaping, trying to escape penalty and finding safe harbor in the NFL. There were different motivations for it.
Dan Patrick
Eric Dickerson was on a radio show, Fred Rogan and Rodney Pete on AM570 and had this to say about Shador Sanders. And I'll tell you this much, and what I heard from someone that's in the NFL that the NFL put it told other don't draft him. Do not draft him. We're going to make him. We're going to make an example out of him. And this Came from a very good source, a very good source. And he said that. I won't say who. Somebody called the Cleveland Browns and said, don't do that. Really? Yep. Draft him. Don't, don't, don't do that. Because they weren't going to draft him either. They weren't going to draft him. Your thoughts, Albert?
Paulie
Yeah, I always think these sorts of conspiracies are a little, a little overdone. Like, I don't think there was any conspiracy here. I think it's relatively simple what happened. I think the great majority of NFL teams did not view him as a first round prospect, contrary to what had been out there for the year previous. And then I think what happens is once you get past the first round, you look at the history over, over the years, not a lot of quarterbacks go in the second or third rounds. It's just the reality of it like that most teams look at it like if there's a guy who's going to be our long term answer at the position, we just take him in the first round. And if a guy's not going to be your long term answer at the position, then you probably aren't going to take him in the second or third round because you're going to be looking for a long term answer at another position with those picks. So the fate of Shador Sanders, like, I think he fell out of the first round for football reasons. I think he kept falling for everything else. Right. Like for the fact that most coaches look at their backup quarterbacks and say, I want you to blend in with the furniture. I don't want to, I don't, I don't want to notice that you're even here. You know, that's the way. For better or worse, most teams approach the quarterback position, which I think to some degree short circuited the careers of guys like Tim Tebow and Colin Kaepernick. So I like, Chidor's case was complicated going into the draft, but I don't think it was that complicated where there was some sort of weird conspiracy to keep him out of the league.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, from what I was told by a source, he didn't interview well. He kind of came in and he was interviewing teams instead of the other way around. And you're right, he didn't have first round talent. There was nothing exceptional about him except for maybe his toughness and his pedigree. But I can't imagine all of these owners getting together and somebody saying, hey everybody, listen, don't draft Shador Sanders. Do I think The Browns, especially when.
Paulie
There'S somebody with the bullhorn that Dion has on the other side of it. You know what I mean? That seems like ridiculous to. That seems like the wrong. The wrong tree to bark up, doesn't it, Dan?
Dan Patrick
Yeah, it does. We're talking to Albert Beer, the Monday morning quarterback. I saw where the US Ambassador to the United Kingdom is lobbying for London to get the Super Bowl. At some point, this comes up occasionally.
Paulie
Yep.
Dan Patrick
I do think we're headed towards this. I don't know if it's 10 years from now, but I think the NFL can take the heat because you're still going to tune into the Super Bowl. Where do you, like, where do you land on this story?
Paulie
I agree that I think eventually it will happen. I think the biggest hurdle now is the television rating is such a big deal and the NFL really does care about 70 million versus 80 million versus 100 million versus 120 million. And if you really care about that, your kickoff time does matter, you know. And so if you're holding the game in London, if it's at what would be. If it was at 8 o', clock, 25.
Dan Patrick
Right.
Paulie
Like, no, but if it was 8 o' clock local, then that's 3 o' clock Eastern and you can say it's the Super Bowl. Yeah. Like everybody's going to sit down and watch it. But is that really true? I. The super bowl is a unique one because it is so dependent on the drive by viewer. You know, that number going from in the playoffs, like 50 million to 120 million, that's not based on people like me and you, Dan, tuning in. You know what I mean? Like, we're there regardless. That's based on people who could take it or leave it. Who I like, quite literally could could say, like, no, I'm. I'm. I'm, you know, I go out for my walk, you know, or I go out for a hike on Sunday afternoon. So if the game's on at seven, I'm going to watch it, but if it's on at three, I'm not. So I think that's the one hurdle is, like the television number, the advertising rates, all of that different stuff, like the communal aspect of the Super Bowl. But I think they would love to do it, you know, because I do think growing internationally is a huge priority of Roger Goodell's. It's a huge priority of the league offices. It's a huge priority for a lot of owners. And I think what they figured out over the years, there's a reason why they don't put preseason games over there anymore. Right. Like, they used to do that. Remember the Tokyo bowl back in the day? They used to do that. And the reason they don't. The reason they don't do that, the reason they pulled NFL Europe is they found they felt like those things don't make a dent. Like you got to send them the real thing, which I think is why they feel like now they're starting to make a dent because they're sending the real thing over overseas. And of course, there'd be nothing more impactful than putting the super bowl in another country.
Dan Patrick
What about a Saturday night super bowl in London and you started a little bit later.
Paulie
Okay, so what do you think? Like the Londoners got to put up with a 10pm kickoff or something?
Dan Patrick
No, let's. Let's say kickoff is at nine.
Paulie
So it's four in the U.S. yeah, but now you're talking about a Saturday rating versus a Sunday rating. You know more about this than I do. But isn't Sunday a much better ratings day than Saturday?
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but it's the super bowl and you get to.
Paulie
It is a Super Bowl. But what I'm saying, you get to.
Dan Patrick
Get up on Sunday, though. You don't have to worry about Monday.
Paulie
Right. But like, what I'm saying is that the super bowl is so dependent on. It's dependent. That rating is so dependent on people who could take it or leave it. You know what I mean? That rating, like that rating going through the roof, you know, is based on so many people that don't normally watch sitting down and watching with everybody else. And do you lose that? Take it or leave it, viewer, if you're putting it at a less opportune time, I think that's the sort of question. And I don't know, like, maybe you don't. But I think that's the sort of question that would get batted around.
Dan Patrick
Did the Colts fail Anthony Richardson?
Paulie
No. I think they gave him plenty of chances to, to, to. To seize this and to take it and to run with it. And, you know, I think it's on.
Dan Patrick
Them that they drafted him. He's a project. He's a project.
Paulie
It is 100% on them that they got this wrong. Right. That they got the draft pick wrong. One million percent that's on them. I think part of it is what happens when you predetermine in a certain year, we're taking a quarterback regardless of who's there. Right. Like, I think if you remember the way the year before went, Dan like how they went to, from Matt Ryan to eventually went to Sam Ellinger and like the owner had put a lot of pressure, God rest his soul, had put a lot of pressure on a lot of people. Like, we need to stop cycling through. And they had been through that whole period of, you know, locked to Brissette, to Rivers, to Wentz, to Ryan, and it's like, we need to stop this. We need to get a long term answer. So you predetermined we're going to take one high in the first round. Well, what happens when Bryce Young goes one, CJ Stroud goes two and there's nobody worth taking fourth overall and you force it? Like that's how Christian Ponder goes 12th overall. Right. So like, I think that's, that's the cautionary tale here. I don't think he was ever worth the fourth, fourth overall pick. I don't think, I think a lot of teams, I think if you'd ask most teams, they would tell you that if they were honest about it, you know, and I think this is a case of, you know, coaches in his third year where he hasn't made the playoffs yet. GMs in his ninth year, and there they can't throw another year overboard in the name of quarterback development. Last year is an interesting stat. Last year they were 29th in total defense, they were 30th in giveaways. They feel like the defensive thing's been being solved by bringing in Luannarumo and signing guys like Cam Bynum and Jarvarius Ward. Now you gotta take the, take care of the giveaway thing. And they still won eight games despite all of that last year. Right? You do that by being more efficient on offense. You do that by keeping the train on the tracks on offense and staying out of long yardage. And to me, that hit that Anthony Richardson took, that he got hurt on, I mean, no one wanted to see the result, but that was indicative of everything, like his awareness, his ability to process everything in front of him. It's, it's still not there. Three years in, the progress that they need to see isn't there. And so, you know, it's not, it's for the coach, for the GM or fighting for the job, and also for the other 10 guys in the huddle who probably are like, enough of this, you know, like your Jonathan Taylor's, your Alec Pierce's, your Michael Pittman's, like, is it fair to them to say no, we're, we're going to sink another year into quarterback development? I think that's where the Colts are at right now. They just have to give everyone in the organization a better answer at the position.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but it's, it's malpractice to put him out there as rookie year. First game that he wasn't ready for that. He was barely ready for Florida, let alone getting to the Colts. Before I let you go, the holdouts, any updates on McLaurin and Hendrickson?
Paulie
Yeah, I think Hendrickson's going to be really hard to trade the offer. I think people would be surprised to see the raw number, like how far the Bengals have gone, just as far as the average per year. I don't think they're at where, you know, Watt and Garrett are, but they're not very far off. The future guarantees are the issue and like how willing the Bengals are to bend there. I think Pride's come into it because it's been three straight off seasons for Trey Hendrickson. He's been in this position. I think the Bengals, to get Trey Hendrickson signed may need to make this feel like a win for Trey. And I can't imagine, I mean, the Bengals have been listening the whole time. They want, they want a high pick, they want an active player and they want, you know, and Trey's got to get his contract, which is a lot to give up for a 31 year old if you're another team. Which is why I don't think there will be a trade partner. As for Terry, I think that, that, you know, that's one of those where I think we get to the doorstep of the season and everybody puts their cards on the table. And I just think, and this is just me talking, I think Terry is too important to what Dan Quinn has built there over the last 18 months. And winning with the commanders and being a one team guy is too important to Terry for them not to find some middle ground. But it does feel like at this point they need a deadline to push them there. And I think there's going to have to be a point too for the commanders where they're going to have to look at it and say, you know what our data might tell us this, that, like, it's tough to sign a receiver of that age to this sort of guarantee. I think they're going to have to bend a little bit and say, like, this is a special case because of what he means to our franchise.
Dan Patrick
And I've stayed away from the Micah Parsons until there was a trade offer or I really felt like he was going to be traded or because I think this is Inevitable. Is there any update on Micah?
Paulie
Yeah, I mean, it's a little different, I think, like the one difference. And so I'll give you the similarities between this and the last few. The pace of the negotiation with this one and CD Lamb and Dak Prescott and Zach Martin is the same. And it almost feels like Jerry has taken this and said early in the off season, you want to take our offer, fine. If not, we'll see you. We'll see you in four or five months. You know, and the pacing of the, the, these negotiations seems to go this way. It's hard to totally dismiss the idea that this helps the Cowboys get in the A block on first take, you know what I mean? Like, for the entire summer. So, you know, like, that's why those deals got done. So, you know, those deals got done so close to the beginning of the season that it's tough to rule anything out. Now, the difference is Dak Prescott was wildly popular in the building. C Date CD Lamb, Zach Martin, wildly popular in the building. I don't know that it's the same way with Micah, and that may complicate things a little bit. And Mike is also a free thinker, you know, and so I think the, the Cowboys are going to probably put their best offer on the table, you know, at some point in the two weeks between now and the opener, and, and we'll see if he takes it, but I think it would take probably around $45 million a year to get it done now.
Dan Patrick
Oh, 45.
Paulie
Yeah. So, so it's, again, part of, it's like making the player feel like he's a winner after, you know, putting him through all of this. So I think that's where you're at.
Dan Patrick
Great to talk to you. Thanks, as always. Safe travels.
Paulie
Thanks, Dan. And we got a favor to ask of you that I, I think you'll enjoy a little bit fantasy football related, so look out for that one.
Dan Patrick
Oh, no. Hopefully. You don't want advice?
Paulie
No, no, no, no. In fact, like, I, I, I get, My friends always ask me for advice and I tell them they're, they're asking the wrong person. So I'm with you on that.
Dan Patrick
You can ask me now if you want to.
Paulie
Let's just. Okay. So a couple of my friends, we went through because, you know, like, I'm the connection to everything for them, and we went through some, some sportscasters that we all grew up watching and, and they picked you as the guy they would like to randomly select the draft order for us.
Dan Patrick
All right.
Paulie
The twist is that there are some inappropriate names that may still be around from 20 years ago when we were all just out of college and naming our teams. Things that I think one of my friends said he would, you would, you'd, he'd die laughing if he heard you, heard you announce some of these names. So we'll see if we.
Dan Patrick
Okay. But it can't be made public, though.
Paulie
Well, I promise that I 100% like cameo. You have my promise. It will be destroyed after, after they, after everybody gets a, everybody gets a.
Dan Patrick
Chance to see it because Cameo, you know, you'll have leagues that reach out and say, would you do our draft? And there's some suspect names on their team names. And you know, I said, you know, you can't make it public. But I'll, I'll do it for, you know, the 10 people in the room. But yeah, I'll be more than happy to do that. All right.
Paulie
Thanks, D.P. i appreciate it.
Dan Patrick
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Paulie
The guidance from the NFL and the AP writers says a player simply returning from poor performance should not really be considered. It has to be injury, ailment, life, something with their life.
Dan Patrick
Okay. All right, so with that in mind, give me the comeback player of the year odds. All right, so the, the best odds are Dak and Aiden Hutchinson at plus 275 each. Okay. CMC. They were injured. They were injured. Yep. Both injured. CMC. Plus 370. He's usually he's primally on there. Trevor Lawrence plus 475. How injured was he?
Paulie
He missed five games.
Dan Patrick
Five or six. Okay, okay. And then this is when it gets interesting. J.J. mcCarthy plus a thousand. He's really more of like an NBA rookie, you know, like he didn't. He's not really coming back from anything on the field related. Well, he hurt his knee.
Paulie
Yeah.
Dan Patrick
But he didn't play. But he still was coming back from knee surgery.
Paulie
Well, I guess the question is, was he ever there to come back?
Dan Patrick
Well, where did he get injured? That is true. It was in practice, wasn't it?
Paulie
If he saw if he was a healthy scratch rookie who just sat behind a starter. No dice. But since he was actually injured, we're winking at it.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I got a problem with another guy on this list, but go ahead, dale. Nick Chubb plus 1200. And then this is the guy I'm going to guess you're going to have a problem with. Daniel Jones plus 2000. And what is he coming back from being on the Giants? Hurt fear Seems kind of fair, actually. Okay. Was he hurt at all last year, besides his feelings?
Paulie
He was a couple games last year, but he had 10 starts, eight touchdowns, seven picks.
Dan Patrick
Okay. Yeah, Seaton. I mean, I think it's still fair to have a couple year window of people getting used to the idea that it's just injured players, not players who are reviving a stalled career, you know? Yeah, we all sort of still look at it that way too. But if you just try to narrow it down to injured players, then I get it. Who else is on the list? Well, this one's interesting, Dan. So Anthony Richardson is plus 3500. I see a window where Daniel Jones gets yanked early in the season. Anthony Richardson is coming back from this season and an injury previously. Let's go around the room quickly. Who is your pick for comeback player of the year? Todd?
Paulie
Trevor Lawrence is going to have a better season this year.
Dan Patrick
All right. Seaton. Nick Chubb. Okay. Marvin.
Paulie
Aiden Hutchison.
Dan Patrick
Dylan. Anthony Richardson. Of course. Nobody makes more bad bets than Dylan. Right, Paulie, what about you can't be.
Paulie
Dak, Aiden or cmc. They're expected to be great. It's Trevor Lawrence.
Dan Patrick
I'm gonna go. J.J. mcCarthy. J.J. mcCarthy, come on down. I saw where Stefan Diggs is on there. Did he. Is he coming back from Cardi B? Like what? That's a comeback player of the year word. I can kind of get behind. I think he did too soon. He said sorry. Are they still going out?
Paulie
Checking.
Dan Patrick
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Date: August 21, 2025
Host: Dan Patrick (with the Danettes)
Guest: Albert Breer (Senior NFL Reporter, Monday Morning Quarterback)
Main Themes: NFL backup quarterback economics, Shedeur Sanders’ NFL draft saga, Jim Harbaugh suspension debate, Super Bowl in London, player holdouts, and comeback player odds.
This episode dives into several key NFL topics: the surprisingly lucrative world of backup quarterbacks (highlighted by Tyson Bagent’s new contract), the controversy surrounding Shedeur Sanders’ NFL draft slide and conspiracy theories about league interference, whether Jim Harbaugh should be suspended by the NFL after NCAA sanctions, and the possibility of a future Super Bowl in London. Dan is joined by Albert Breer for insider perspective on these stories, and the crew debates comeback player of the year odds.
On backup QB pay:
“You’re signing these guys and you hope they don’t play, because if they do play then something happened to your starter.” – Dan (06:32)
On Shedeur Sanders draft drop:
"He came in, he’s interviewing teams to see if he wanted to go play for you...he wasn’t viewed as a marquee talent. Now, you’ll put up with that stuff if the talent equates to ‘OK, we can overlook the attitude because the talent’s so great.’” – Dan (11:00)
On NFL streaming fragmentation:
“It’s called cable. Just like I’ve seen people calling for...tune into live podcasts as they were happening. Yes. It’s called the radio.” – Dan, poking fun at reinventions of old media (17:20)
On moving the Super Bowl to London:
“...that number going from in the playoffs, like 50 million to 120 million, that’s not based on people like me and you, Dan, tuning in...that’s based on people who could take it or leave it.” – Albert Breer (32:07)
On Anthony Richardson & the Colts:
“It’s 100% on them that they got this wrong...That hit that Anthony Richardson took, that he got hurt on, I mean, no one wanted to see the result, but that was indicative of everything...his awareness, his ability to process everything in front of him, it’s still not there three years in.” – Albert Breer (35:04)
On Micah Parsons’ negotiations:
“Dak Prescott was wildly popular in the building...I don’t know that it’s the same way with Micah, and that may complicate things a little bit.” – Albert Breer (39:44)
Lighthearted, with characteristic Dan Patrick wit and playful banter among the Danettes, but also offering substantive and well-sourced NFL commentary thanks to Albert Breer’s deep reporting and experience.
| Segment | Timestamp | Key Point/Quote | |------------------------------------------|-------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Backup QB Salary Analysis | 04:02–08:16 | “It pays to be a backup quarterback... Bagent... more than Pacheco ever made.” | | Shedeur Sanders’ Draft Controversy | 09:00–12:00 | “I believe Dickerson believes this is true. I don’t believe it’s true...entitled.” | | Jim Harbaugh/NFL Suspension Debate | 27:17–28:13 | “I don’t think Harbaugh was escaping Michigan...Different motivations for leaving.” | | Super Bowl in London | 31:19–34:47 | “Kickoff time does matter...that number [viewership] is all about drive-by viewers.” | | Player Holdouts, Contract Talks | 39:44–41:16 | “Dak wildly popular; with Micah, not the same, may complicate things.” | | Comeback Player Odds & Picks | 49:12–52:15 | Group debates award eligibility, injuries, and makes comic predictions. |
For listeners who missed the episode:
This hour provided a blend of financial insight into NFL contracts, debunked a major draft conspiracy narrative, explained complex league policies on discipline, and offered rare candor on owner/GM mentality straight from an insider—all delivered with humor and the accessible honesty that defines The Dan Patrick Show.