Hour 2 – WNBA Suspends Alyssa Thomas, Alan Hunter

Summary

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The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 2

Episode Date: June 26, 2026

Main Theme: WNBA Suspends Alyssa Thomas, Alan Hunter on American Bands & MTV

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Episode Overview

In this hour, Dan and the Danettes explore the fallout from the WNBA's suspension of Alyssa Thomas after her flagrant foul against Caitlin Clark, the ongoing challenges and media narratives facing the WNBA, and speculate on NBA trade rumors involving Jaylen Brown. The show shifts gears with a lively, in-depth conversation with original MTV VJ Alan Hunter, who weighs in on the greatest American bands, the early days of MTV, music video culture, and more. Throughout, the crew’s banter and callers’ comments add humor and color to sports and music debates.

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Key Segments & Insights

1. Sports Banter and WNBA Controversy (02:27–09:35)

a. Fun Around the Table

• Lighthearted discussion of hats and sports apparel, including the Chicago White Sox and a humorous anecdote about the Pope getting a White Sox cap (02:27–03:32).
• Dan quizzes the team: “How many Mets managers in the past quarter century?”—the answer: 10 (03:32–04:44).

b. Menu of the Day

• Meat Friday: USA-style Beef Wellington and pork chops—“ours has ‘USA’ written on it in puff pastry” (04:52–05:14, Dylan).
• Running joke: “Who has it better than we do?” / “Nobody!” (05:27–05:30).

c. WNBA Suspension and Backlash

• Dan on Alyssa Thomas’ one-game suspension for hitting Caitlin Clark:

  "They allowed this to just explode... Not in a good way. Hell, look at all the publicity the WNBA is getting. I said, yeah, negative publicity." (08:23–08:48)

• The show’s poll reflects fans’ sentiment:

  “74% say too little, too late; the damage is done, and you sit her down for a game.” (08:03–08:23)

• On the league’s handling:

  “This is one of those, kind of like, rinse, repeat... We'll continue to go down this road with Caitlin Clark, how she's officiated and what players think they can get away with.” (08:48–09:05)

d. NBA Trade Rumors

• Dan speculates on the Celtics’ Jalen Brown:

  “I still maintain that this feels inevitable that Jaylen Brown is going to end up elsewhere. The question is, where?” (07:19–07:41)

e. WNBA Media Mismanagement

• Dylan wonders why the WNBA hasn't learned from the NBA's media savvy:

  “How have they not, at a minimum, followed their lead… this is how you do things?” (09:13–09:35)

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2. Callers’ Opinions: WNBA, Soccer, and More (10:03–16:26)

a. Caller 'Buddha' (10:03–11:26)

• On the WNBA drama:

  “The WNBA is all kinds of bad. Like, who's speaking up and addressing this mess? Like, nobody. … It’s weird to watch… the jealousy and hatred for someone who's elevated and made everyone so much more money.”

  • Also praises ball control in soccer, likening players to “a soccer ball on a yo-yo.”

b. Dan on Soccer Superstars, Tactics Comparisons (11:26–13:33)

• On Messi and predictable dominance:

  “I'm never letting him go to his left foot… That's all. I might not stop you, but I am never going to let you load up on that left foot.” (11:55–12:18)

• Cross-sport parallels: Basketball, hockey, and baseball.

c. More Callers: Music, Personal Stories & Humor (14:30–17:11)

• On live albums: Dan admits occasional exceptions (Stop Making Sense) but dislikes audience noise (15:44–16:14).
• Emotional notes as a listener shares a story of loss and listening to the show with his late father’s memory (16:26–16:52).

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3. Alan Hunter Interview: Music, MTV, and Band Debates (22:02–40:20)

a. Beatles, 'Hey Jude', and Generational Tastes (22:59–24:27)

• Alan Hunter on 'Hey Jude':

  “One of the great anthems of all time. … There are a lot of people who maybe don’t realize that the Beatles are the greatest band ever… but they certainly love the music once they hear it.” (23:12–23:40)

• Alan comments on McCartney’s energy and longevity.

b. Early MTV, Video Culture, and American Bands (24:27–29:09)

• MTV’s beginnings:

  “If you weren’t there August 1, 1981, then you didn’t witness what was basically a local cable television show … stitched together with duct tape.” (29:09–29:24)

• Explains why British bands (Duran Duran, U2) dominated early MTV—few American artists made videos.

c. Greatest American Bands Debate (26:13–28:53)

• Alan’s criteria: importance, longevity, cultural impact.

  “REM... Aerosmith... stadium rockers like Journey, REO Speedwagon. ...The Grateful Dead? I'd say… one of the most important bands... not the greatest or best, but paradigm shifting. ...Their whole thing was a vibe… It was a religion, to be honest.” (27:26–28:53)

d. Inside MTV: Pay, Culture, Artist Interaction (31:00–37:45)

• Early VJs made ~$35,000; the gig felt “like a local community theater show” at first (31:00–31:45).
• Alan shares: MTV started with about 100 videos, mainly British bands, and only later did record companies catch on (31:50–33:03).
• Life as a VJ:

  “We were right in the middle of the artist and the audience… totally immersed in the culture. ...We were mixing it up, no doubt… but had to stay sane, fairly sober and responsible to get the gig done.” (36:15–37:45)

e. Danettes’ Musical Talents & Storytelling (33:03–39:31)

• Todd’s infamous live vocals featured for Alan’s critique.
• Alan on Hall & Oates:

  “One of the greatest duos of all time. Sold the most albums, sadly, couldn’t get along. Daryl's a prickly character… But we were in each other’s lives during that time and they were huge.” (34:55–36:00)

• Alan’s close encounter: Accidentally hitting John Oates in the face before a show (35:00–36:00).

f. Springsteen’s TV Savvy and Lasting Influence

• Alan notes Springsteen’s adaptation to the era of music video fame:

  “He literally went and got in shape because he knew the next stage for him was going to be that visual brand… I was more of an alt music guy, more Peter Gabriel, but Springsteen told stories and speaks his mind.” (38:19–39:31)

g. Music & Sports Crossover

• Alan: Now a St. Louis Cardinals fan, lifelong Cubs fan, and slowly warming to soccer: "Go USA!" (39:41–40:19)

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4. Closing Calls and Music Debate Wrap-up (43:27–48:18)

• Dan returns to the “live album” debate:

  “I just don’t like hearing the crowd sing along or somebody yelling out in the audience.” (43:27–43:49)

• Callers defend the Grateful Dead (“two separate residences at the Sphere” – 44:16), and Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers ("probably the best out there" – 45:50–46:22).
• The show winds down with good-natured ribbing of the crew’s music opinions; Alan Hunter’s verdict stands—“Grateful Dead is a thing—it’s an experience… They're not R.E.M., they're not Fleetwood Mac, they're not the Eagles, they're not Aerosmith.” (47:47–48:13, Dan paraphrasing)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

On the WNBA’s Handling of Caitlin Clark:

"Any publicity is good publicity. Not at all." – Dan Patrick (08:23)

"The WNBA is all kinds of bad. Like, who's speaking up and addressing this mess? Like, nobody." – Buddha, caller (10:20)

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On Messi & Superstar Tactics:

"I'm never letting him go to his left foot... that's all. I might not stop you, but I am never going to let you load up on that left foot." – Dan (11:55–12:18)

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On Generational Divides in Music Tastes:

“There are a lot of people who maybe don't realize that the Beatles are the greatest band ever… but they certainly love the music once they hear it.” – Alan Hunter (23:28)

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On the Grateful Dead:

“One of the most important bands… not the greatest or the best… but paradigm shifting… The Dead, you know, got started in the mid-60s… It was a religion, to be honest.” – Alan Hunter (27:26–28:53)

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• Meet Friday/Show Open: 02:27–05:30
• Mets Managers & Sports Banter: 03:32–04:44
• Alyssa Thomas Suspension/WNBA Take: 07:04–09:35
• Callers on WNBA & Soccer: 10:03–13:33
• Alan Hunter MTV & Band Debate: 22:02–39:41
• More Calls & Music Wrangle: 43:27–48:18

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Summary in a Nutshell

This episode blends timely sports news—WNBA drama and NBA trade chatter—with nostalgia and energetic musical debate. Dan and the crew dissect WNBA officiating, league image issues, and broader themes of athlete treatment and sports media. The Alan Hunter interview steals the show with behind-the-scenes MTV tales and a clear-eyed, personal take on what makes a great American band. Lively call-ins and the Danettes’ trademark humor keep things rolling, making it a rich, dynamic hour for sports and pop culture fans alike.

Transcript

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[Dan Patrick]

on this meet Friday Dan and the Dan Patrick Show. Back row. Fritzi Dylan back there with his Grateful Dead hoodie. Looking good. We'll talk some music coming up in 20 minutes from now with one of the original MTV BJ's, Alan Hunter Marvin up front with his Chicago White Sox hat. You're not a White Sox fan. You just like the White Sox logo, Correct?

[Paulie]

Correct. I need a T shirt that says, I don't like the team. I just like the hat.

[Dan Patrick]

Because there are people on social media wanting to know why you're a White Sox fan.

[Paulie]

Oh, there's people at Trader Joe's. This was last week. Oh, man. Are you from Chicago? Absolutely not. I just like the hat. I don't like any of the teams besides UConn. There's none of the teams that I wear. None of the hats. I don't like any of those teams.

[Dan Patrick]

But the Pope is a big fan of the Chicago White Sox.

[Paulie]

Oh, then I'm in good company.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Yeah.

[Paulie]

Paul, I think just yesterday a former White Sox star, AJ Przeinski, was at the Vatican and met with the Pope and gave him a new hat.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Pretty cool.

[Caller or Listener]

All right.

[Dan Patrick]

By the way, the New York Mets, they need a new manager. They have fired their manager. I was wondering here, in the last 20 years, how many Mets managers have they had? So. 20 years? Yes.

[Paulie]

Paulie, are we playing the how many Mets managers in the past quarter century game?

[Caller or Listener]

Damn.

[Dan Patrick]

Patrick, can you give us. Give us an over Under? Okay, New York Mets managers.

[Paulie]

I'm gonna do closest to the hole. I'm gonna go back to. I'll go back to 2000. Nice round number, which I don't like. Okay, how many total managers, including today, have the Mets had?

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, Todd, I'll start with you.

[Todd]

Nine was the first number. I'm probably low.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, Dylan.

[Dylan]

And even 10.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, Marvin.

[Paulie]

11.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I was gonna go 11, too, Paulie.

[Paulie]

By the way, it's really sad that you guys all picked really close because that's 2.55 years per manager based off your guesses. Mendoza show. Walter Rojas, Callaway Collins Manual. Willie Randolph, Art Howe, Bobby Valentine. We are at 10 managers in the past quarter century.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, congratulations, Dylan. By the way, Dylan is responsible for meat Friday and what is on the menu today?

[Dylan]

We have our famous beef Wellington, USA style.

[Caller or Listener]

Okay?

[Dylan]

Cherry, pepper, pork chops, garlic.

[Dan Patrick]

Now, what is the difference between beef Wellington and the USA version of beef Wellington?

[Dylan]

It is identical, Dan, except ours has a USA written on it in puff pastry.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow. Okay, what else do we have?

[Dylan]

So we got those two. Those are our mains. And then we have some cheesy garlic bread and some jalapeno cheesy corn.

[Dan Patrick]

Who has it better than we do?

[Dylan]

Nobody.

[Dan Patrick]

Stat of the day, brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the program. Good morning. Those watching on Peacock, that's our streaming partner. Download the app if you haven't done so. Turkey A beats USA at the buzzer. Haven't had too many buzzer beater walk offs and regulation, but that was good. That was fun. And Team USA moves on. They got Bosnia coming up next week. Not the end of the world. They lost. I think it was a great problem to have, if you want to say problem that we could afford a loss and that's rare when that happens. Christian Pulisic got to play couple of shots on goal. That was encouraging as well.

[Dylan]

Yes, Dylan, it is funny watching the concept of stoppage time, like break people's brains because it's like I was watching it with some friends the other day and it's like, how do they. It seems arbitrarily decided on the amount of time and then even when they actually end the game, it'll be like in the 97th minute. And they're like, that's good.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, it is. It is sort of like, I don't know, it's kind of right around there, you know. But they usually let a play continue, right? A rush continue and then once that's done, then they'll blow the whistle. Yeah, Paul.

[Paulie]

Yeah. If you're kind of in the offensive territory, you're going towards the goal, they'll let it play out. So what happened last night? Around the 88th minute, they put up on the board seven minutes of stoppage time and now we're in the 98th minute. So it's definitely past the 7A. USA player got hurt around the 92nd minute, so they had to add another minute or two on.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, WNBA late, but at least they got around to the right call. Alyssa Thomas gets a Flagrant 2 one game suspension for the act on Caitlin Clark. All quiet on the Celtics Jalen Brown front, which usually means something's happening there. I still maintain that this feels like it's inevitable that Jaylen Brown is going to end up elsewhere. The question is, where is he going to end up? I think there's speculation maybe the Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston getting somebody who is different plays differently than Jaylen Brown. So you can have somebody who can compliment Jason Tatum, but there's a lot of different teams that would be in line for Jaylen Brown. 29 years of age, couple years left on his contract and coming off the best year of his career. Poll question from hour one, Dylan, and what are we going to go with hour two?

[Dylan]

All right, Dan, we had two up there from the first hour Team USA's late loss to Turkey A is no big deal, a bit concerning or very troubling. 61.6% say no big deal. And Alyssa Thomas's flagrant two and one game suspension for actions against Caitlin Clark is fair, too little, too late or unfair. 74% say too little, too late, the

[Dan Patrick]

damage is done, and you sit her down for a game. But I, you know, they allowed this to just explode. And, you know, not in a good way. Hell, look at all the publicity the WNBA is getting. I said, yeah, negative publicity. So, you know, hey, great, you're being talked about. Not in a good way. Yeah, any publicity is good publicity. Not at all. This is one of those that it's kind of like, you know, rinse, repeat, do it again. It's. We've. We've gone down this road a couple of times and we'll continue to go down this road with Caitlin Clark, how she's officiated and what players think they can get away with. Yeah. Poland.

[Paulie]

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[Dan Patrick]

Yes, Dill.

[Dylan]

It's surprising to me just given how media savvy the NBA is, that the WNBA as an affiliate, and I mean, the NBA is, for lack of a better term, kind of like the parent company in some respects. It's like, how have they not, at a minimum, followed their lead or maybe even had someone kind of step in and be like, this is how you do things.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I'm surprised. I think it's a great point that you bring up that the NBA is really savvy, media savvy. The clips. You know, people may not watch games, but, boy, they get those clips out. And people around the world know these players. WNBA just feels like there's a glass ceiling above them that they keep banging their heads on it. A couple of phone calls in here. Buddha in San Francisco. Morning Buddha.

[Caller or Listener (Buddha)]

Nobody happy me Friday, boys. Hydration is key. Fritzy and Dan to Andrew in Washington. Stay strong, brother, and Godspeed. Just remember every day the super bowl and Dan. I hesitate to bring this up, but the WNBA is all kinds of bad. Like, who's speaking up and addressing this mess? Like, nobody. I mean, it's a joke, man.

[Alan Hunter]

Like the.

[Caller or Listener (Buddha)]

In the level of pettiness taking place. So it's kind of wild against, like, arguably the face of the league. And it's weird to watch and just to witness the jealousy and hatred for someone who's elevated and made everyone so much more money. It just doesn't make any sense, man. And then also having watched more soccer than I ever watched in my life, I've actually found the most satisfaction and just watching who can dribble the ball the best. It's, like, fascinating to watch some of these guys.

[Caller or Listener]

I mean, it's.

[Caller or Listener (Buddha)]

It's like watching a soccer ball. It's on a yo yo. And kicking goals is fun, but the control and traffic and going through, like, you know, different, like, you know, peoples and like, you know, like in the box, like, some of these guys have incredible. Just, like, you know, just have incredible control. And it's fun to watch. And I'll see you guys all in Tahoe.

[Dan Patrick]

That'll be great. Thank you, Buddha. I was watching Messi Highlights last night, and it's amazing. It's like when I watch Manu Ginobili, I knew he was going left. You knew he was going left, but he still scored. Nate Archibald, one of my favorite players. Left hand, dominant. You knew he was going left. He went left. He still scored. I'm watching Messi. I. I'm never letting him go to his left foot. Like, I just.

[Caller or Listener]

And.

[Dan Patrick]

And I watch these defenders, and they're, like, trying to play him straight up, and I go, he's. He's gonna use his left foot here, and I'll be. Damn.

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[Dan Patrick]

I'm on. Look, I'm a. I don't know anything about soccer, but I do know when you have somebody who is that dominant going one way, chances are I'd like to discourage you from going that way. That's all. I might not stop you, and you may reverse course and come back to that left, but I am never going to let you load up on that left foot. Never. Can't. Yes. Paulie.

[Paulie]

It does seem when you're watching soccer that the defense is set up for, like. Like a big zone defense. Always on soccer, they play the entire field. It doesn't seem like they mark one guy. Like, you talked about a box in one or putting a face guard on Messi. It doesn't seem like they even think about that kind of stuff.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't get it. And I'm sure there are a lot of people saying, you're an idiot. You don't know anything about soccer. That's true. But I do know about stopping somebody and not letting you go to your spot. Every great player has spots. I got to go there. I'm going to go there. I'm going to go there. Most of them have three places that if you let them go there, that's Then it's advantage them. It's, can I let you go there? How do I not let you go there? And once you go there, I'm dead. Yes, Dylan.

[Dylan]

Yeah, there's guys like that, like in hockey. Ovechkin, right, has Ovi's office over on the left side of the. The ice, where it's like he just scores from there every single time. And it's like, you know he's gonna do it. They just. It just happens.

[Dan Patrick]

And there's certain places I don't want to throw a pitch to certain headers, I can't. And then all of a sudden you go, here's a breaking ball that's going to hang to Aaron Judge gone. Oh, yes, Paulie.

[Paulie]

I hope before this show ends we get Lionel Messi on the show and you say, by the way, Lionel, here's how I would stop you if I were.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Paulie]

Just. That's one of my dreams.

[Dan Patrick]

You're probably wondering how I would stop you. Well, I would do this. First of all, I'd knock you down a couple times, Leo, and I've never letting you have that ball on your left foot. Yes. Dylan, would you do like a Ray

[Dylan]

Allen thing where it'd be like you're actually kind of kicking with your toe a little bit?

[Dan Patrick]

I wouldn't do that. Hey, I proved to be correct with Ray Allen. He had that ball resting on the palm of his hand. And I said, no, that. That's not good. Imagine how good Ray Allen could have been if he had listened to me. David in Ohio, I say sarcastically, hey, David.

[Caller or Listener]

Hey, what's up?

Hey, what's up, Dan? Happy me Friday. Nobody comments for you. Nobody. If the USA improves their odds, the plus 1776 to win the World Cup, I'm taking it. Second thing, you were talking about the. What you'd wear to Taylor Swift's wedding. I think Shay's roommate would tell you to wear some corduroy. Corduroy clothes there. So thanks.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, I know I can't bring up the corduroy pants to Shay because his wife loved the pants. And now I joke with her, would she like to wear them? And he's like, danny, Danny, not funny. I would wear corduroys. Absolutely. Very comfortable. Dave in Florida. Hi, Dave. What do you have for me?

[Caller or Listener]

Speaking of stopping people, you've been stopping Todd all morning and we applaud you for it.

[Dan Patrick]

But that's not the purpose of my.

[Caller or Listener]

That's not the purpose of my call today. Dan, that statement you made about hating all live albums a few Minutes ago. Who says a thing like that? I got two I know you love. One is Stop Making Sense by Talking Heads. And the other, the standard issue Frampton Comes Alive.

[Dan Patrick]

You're right. There are outliers for me. I don't like hearing the audience. That's the big problem that I have. I don't care that you're going to sing along. I don't care if somebody's going to hoot and holler when somebody has. Springsteen's going to play Streets of Philadelphia and you decide you want to yell out I to me. I hate that. Yes, Dylan.

[Dylan]

Yeah, I'd say it. Stop Making Sense is probably more of like a concert movie, but it is what that and the Last Waltz are probably the two best of those ever.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, but I don't view those as concerts. I view those as movies taken during a concert.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Maybe it's semantics. Steven Riverside. Good Morning, Steve.

[Caller or Listener]

Morning Dan. 66205. First time, long time. I just wanted to call and say thank you to your guys. February 11th, I joined the club. My dad passed away and then 24 days later my father in law passed away. Today's my dad's birthday and I'm heading up to his favorite fishing spot listening to you guys.

I just wanted to say thank you.

[Dan Patrick]

What was your dad's name? Steve.

[Caller or Listener]

Steve, actually.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, well, good luck fishing and great thoughts, great memories, hopefully for you in his honor. Hope you catch some fish. Let me see Brian in Chicago. Then we'll take a break. Hi Brian.

[Caller or Listener]

Hey Dan. How are you?

[Dan Patrick]

Good, good, good.

[Caller or Listener]

Hey, I was. This is a little off topic, but I was thinking about something last night. I was just flipping through channels. I saw there was 30 for 30. It was one of the episodes was about to come on and I damn near watched it, but it was on ESPN Espanol. So I'm wondering what are you going to do after you retire from dp? Are you going to stay in sports entertainment?

[Dan Patrick]

Are you going to.

[Caller or Listener]

Are you going to do interviews with athletes or do you have any plans for that?

[Dan Patrick]

I don't have plans. I mean I got a broadcasting school and you know, I joke with Sandler. I'm going to be available for larger movie roles. Of course. He went haha. And I said I was being serious. Awkward. Awkward. I'll have things. There'll be podcast that we're doing here. I hope that we can continue this show in this form with a different host, a younger host. I just think that. That we've carved out something in the last 20 years and to be able to continue that. I think it would be awesome and to give somebody an opportunity to do this on a daily basis. I would be honored to be able to find that person or people. We'll take a break. We'll talk some music. Alan Hunter, one of the original MTV VJs. He'll join us coming up next here. Dan Patrick Show Be sure to catch

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[Dan Patrick]

Is it a good song? Is it a great song? Is it a bad song? Dylan thinks hey Jude is tired. It's not good. And McCartney sounds desperate there for some reason. Some reason that's how we got into this music discussion. Because I'm thinking, Dylan's 30. He doesn't know anything about music. He's ripping on hey Jude, McCartney, the Beatles. He wears his Grateful Dead hoodie. And I'm like, do you know anything about music? And he it. The more he speaks, the more I realize that he does not. But he's putting Grateful Dead over Aerosmith, rem, Eagles, Fleetwood back. I'm saying, best American bands of all time. And then all of a sudden I go, you know what? Why don't we get a music ombudsman? Alan Hunter SiriusXM Host, 80s on 8, classic Rewind and one of the original MTV VJs. Are you sure you want any part

[Alan Hunter]

of this, Alan Wow, I, I've never been called an ombudsman before, but I do love that terminology. I just.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, okay. Your thoughts on hey Jude by the Beatles. Great.

[Alan Hunter]

John Lennon wrote it, of course, about, you know, or rather Paul McCartney wrote it about John's son Julian. And then it morphed into hey Jude. It's, it's one of the great anthems of all time. And it didn't even have to make sense like so many of their songs. Whoever said that? Look, there are a lot of people who maybe don't realize that the Beatles are the greatest band ever. And they might be of the younger generation, but they certainly love the music once they hear it. I think, you know, when you talk about the Beatles, they think it's an old band from the 60s. And Paul McCartney is out there acting like a 22 year old kid with his new album and his new music. I mean, don't you wish that you could look and have the energy that he has at the age of 81 or 2, whatever. He is crazy.

[Dan Patrick]

I just hope I'm alive by then, Alan.

[Alan Hunter]

It's kind of. That's the standard.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, the bar is really low.

[Alan Hunter]

Well, people will say about people like Paul McCartney who look good and still, you know, can talk. Well, if I had a billion dollars, I'd. I'd look good and be healthy as well. Well, he, he didn't make the billion by doing nothing. Made great music.

[Dan Patrick]

We talked about the Grateful Dead, Dylan, who's age 30 and he's a, a Deadhead. And then I started thinking about the mtv. Like you weren't playing Grateful Dead videos. I don't think when you guys first started there, REM Got a lot of play. Yeah, Aerosmith got play.

[Alan Hunter]

Interestingly, REM did not get a whole lot of play. I mean, they came on, you know, early 80s, 1981, with Radio Free Europe, which I saw on the David Letterman show when they played live. And we were all like, wow, who is that? This band? But their first. I started playing them on an alternative show On MTV called 120 Minutes. It was around 86, 87. And we played, we played Losing My Religion. I think that was the first. No, no, we played the one I love. That would have been the first one that we played from them. But they had a number of years before they were, you know, commercially successful. And then it was into the 90s before they were internationally a huge alt band.

[Dan Patrick]

But Duran Duran got a lot of play.

[Alan Hunter]

Well, Duran Duran is the poster boy band for the group. I mean, Their first videos for Girls on film were, to this day, some of the most salacious videos around. That was a video, Girls on Film, that. That caught parents hair on fire, who thought MTV was truly the devil's playground. They saw the images on that first video. But, yeah, Duran, Duran, you two, the Pretty Boys, the. The. The second wave, if you will, after the Beatles, after the Rolling Stones, the first wave. From across the pond came the new. The new waivers. And that was the predominant focus on mtv because they were the only one ones, by the way, that were making videos.

[Dan Patrick]

You know, Greatest American band is who?

[Alan Hunter]

Greatest American band. Well, R.E.M. would be one of them. It depends on if you're talking from the 80s or the 70s. I would. You mentioned Aerosmith. I'd certainly say they're one of the great rockers. You could throw down stadium rockers, arena rock, like A Journey, you know, the REO Speedwagons and the Sticks were the journeyman live bands back in the 70s. They were the ones, by the way, who had the hardest time embracing the new era of the video. The American rockers of the 70s who played big stadiums and put out albums, had a hard adjustment period in the early 80s. They made some of the worst videos on the planet, but they caught. They caught the wave for sure.

[Dan Patrick]

Where does the Grateful Dead rank? That's part of our big argument that we have, because I said, look, Eagles, better American band. Fleetwood Max, better.

[Alan Hunter]

No doubt. No doubt.

[Dan Patrick]

REM Grateful Dead would be a great experience. I'm talking about better band.

[Alan Hunter]

Right, right.

[Dan Patrick]

Where.

[Caller or Listener]

Where.

[Dan Patrick]

Where's Grateful Dead?

[Alan Hunter]

Well, there's so many criteria you'd have to nail down to say what? Who's the best? I mean, the Grateful Dead extend across so many decades. I think that's where their staying power is. Like the Rolling Stones and the Beatles from across the way, to me, are the greatest bands because one of their longevity. I mean, some people would argue that the Rolling Stone should have stopped long ago, and they're just cranking out the same old stuff. Same for AC DC and any other. Or Bon Jovi or Def Leppard. Any band that's come out with new albums, it's like, yeah, same as the old. The Dead, you know, got started in the mid-60s, before my time, really. Touch of Gray was their only top 10 hit. So they weren't commercially successful in terms of, you know, selling albums or getting on the radio. The biggest draw when it comes to live touring, I think. I think I would say that they're one of the most important bands I Wouldn't use words like the greatest or the best, but paradigm shifting and the in and. And the kind of ethos that they projected and, and the kind of, you know, mysterious spirituality that surrounded them throughout their entire career. Jerry Garcia and Bob and Phil gave people a vibe. Their whole thing was a vibe, right? It was the live show. It was hanging out in the parking lot beforehand. It was where in the. The uniform of the dead, whatever that meant. Now it was a religion, to be honest. The dead.

[Dan Patrick]

He's Alan Hunter. He's our ombudsman, SiriusXM host. 80s on 8 Classic Rewind. That first month of MTV, how would you sum that up for those who may not remember it or didn't see it?

[Alan Hunter]

Well, if you weren't there August 1, 1981, then you didn't witness what was basically a local cable television show where in the show is stitched together with duct tape. People, you know, know MTV is this worldwide phenomenon. But it started out like a local community theater show. I mean, MTV had no money to start Warner Amex, you know, gave him 25 million bucks, which was, which was nothing. And, and, and cable television in the early 80s was like local pornography shows, you know, or the Crank Call show. In New York City, we had all these crazy public television shows. But when MTV came along, CNN and ESPN were the only 24, 7 cable shows. Cable was in its infancy. The rural communities of America starting in the mid-70s were the ones who embraced cable television. Turn of the decade, you know, it was only those two channels. MTV comes along and blows everybody away. And within one year there, there were, you know, several million people who were addicted to it. But that first month was experimental. I'd say the whole first year was an experiment. We changed everything every day from the set to what we did as host on the show. The one thing I really appreciate about. Appreciate about MTV was that we were going to blow the model up. What's, what's a TV show? What is a talking head in between the videos about we're not newscasters. We became everybody's friends. We were the liaison between the wild world of rock and roll and people sitting in their homes in, in the middle of America, watching at 2 in the morning, you know, watching these crazy videos. It was an atmosphere that we created. And again, early on, it was held up with duct tape. And later I got paid at the very end of my life at MTV. In 87, I finally got paid a fair wage.

[Dan Patrick]

What were you making when you first started?

[Alan Hunter]

I was making around $35,000 which to me was better than the starving actor wage I was making. I was bartending, waiting tables, and my criteria for a gig. And I had no idea I was going to get this gig. This was out of left field. I wanted to be on Broadway. And I got the gig. And they said, here's what we're going to pay you. And I didn't even argue with it. It's like, fine, whatever. Send it over. That's a little more than I would make as a chorus boy on Broadway. So I'm good. So I bought some clothes and some new furniture. By the end of my tenure there, I was the highest paid vj. I won't tell you the wage, but it made sense. And then I decided to leave. Which my father said, what are you doing? Why are you leaving? I said, no, I'm burnt out. Six years. I've had enough.

[Dan Patrick]

Dad, how many videos did you have in rotation initially?

[Alan Hunter]

Well, I tell you, that's the funny thing about it is that early on probably had a little over 100 videos in the library. Because when MTV started, you know, they told the record companies, we want to use your videos, but we're not going to pay for them. Which was a big argument in the beginning. But that's why you saw Rod Stewart 10 times, 10 videos. Pat Benatar had multiple videos because no one made them. The only ones making them were David Bowie and Duran Duran. And the English artists had a lot of videos. I mean, the Beatles started the mini video, right? They started the mini film for promotion purposes. But we had Charlie Daniels on, For God's sakes. Charlie Daniels on MTV early on, because that was all we had. And we hit these weird videos from fish heads and barns and barns and just crazy stuff. But then finally, when the record companies started getting requests from local record stores around the country saying, the kids are coming in asking for you, too. And the stray cats in Duran Duran, they were saying, who are these bands and where are they seeing them? And they said, on this cable channel. Then the record company said, oh, maybe we should spend some money and make videos for our artists. And on from there.

[Dan Patrick]

Fritzi is our local musician. He has been on stage with Darius Rucker. He's saying, sweet. He's. Yeah, he's a big hall of Notes fan, so.

[Caller or Listener]

Oh, man.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, me too. Let me let you. Let me let you hear. Here is Todd Fritz on stage with Darius Rucker. This was last. Last summer. Here we go.

[Alan Hunter]

Hopefully I'm not gonna supposed to critique the performance if it ever comes up.

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[Dan Patrick]

All Right, that's it. Yeah. You were just critiquing the sound. Yeah.

[Alan Hunter]

Just to describe. Just describe how it went and I'll critique that.

[Dan Patrick]

Bad.

[Caller or Listener]

Bad.

[Dan Patrick]

He had his hands in his pocket, both hands in his pockets. And he, he decided to do two songs. I said do one. Darius had lost a bet and so he blew through the stop sign, did two hall and Oat songs. So if you heard that music, you

[Alan Hunter]

know, did you just. Did you just play something that I didn't hear? I just want to make sure that people understand. I didn't hear anything just then. Oh, yeah, didn't hear it.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, you can't hear.

[Alan Hunter]

Didn't come through my, my monitor system here. But you, you were singing.

[Caller or Listener]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

You know what? You're lucky, you're lucky that it didn't go through.

[Alan Hunter]

I wondered why. I want you wondered why I was just standing here. Which, which song, which song was it so I can comment on that.

[Dan Patrick]

Todd, why don't you give, give Alan just a little bit of, you know, kiss on my list.

[Todd]

Your kiss is on my list because your kiss is what I miss when I turn out the lights.

[Alan Hunter]

I think you're singing John Oates harmony part there, right?

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[Alan Hunter]

You know, one of the best, one of the best blue eyed soul singers we've got. I caught on to him in the late 70s with Sarah and Rich Girl. Those were the two 70s hits. And come Voices, which was turn of the decade, 1980, the album. And Private Eyes was really the, the one that put him over the top. I mean, one of the greatest duos of all time. Sold the most albums, sadly, couldn't get along. Daryl's a prickly character. I probably know John more than I know Daryl, but. But we were in each other's lives during that time and they, they were, they were huge. One story is that I'm at a Hall of Notes concert, Madison Square Garden with my wife at the time in the wings, the band about to go on, the lights dim and I'm gesticulating to my wife telling a story. And I hit something. It feels soft like a face. And when the lights come up, John is ascending the stairs to the stage, holding the side of his head. I had, I had whacked him in the head. And therefore I said, this is why stage people shoo people like me away from the sides of the stage.

[Dan Patrick]

But a great dude, you guys got really big. And I didn't know if you were partying with bands like you would go to shows and you know, you get caught up in the culture of. We're kind of a big deal here.

[Alan Hunter]

Well, we were in a weird position because we again were right in the middle of the artist and the audience. But we were totally immersed in the culture at that time because MTV was very New York centric. So all the artists were there, you know, on a daily basis. The MTV Studios was a 50 ring circus. The artists would come down, they hung out. If they weren't on the show, they just wanted to be in the green room. It was a very much of a scene thing. And so we were going to the shows the night before to see, you know, the Psychedelic Furs or to see U2 in concert. We did go backstage and we hung out with them, but we had to get up and do a gig the next day. I mean that was. The funny thing is that we. I remember going to see a band, I forget who it was, but their show wasn't until 1:30 in the morning and I had to interview them at 10 the next day on the set. So I roll in just bleary eyed and so too do they. But a band can come in all messed up, but that's part of their ethos. But the host needs to have his brain together. I was brain dead a lot of the time. So we were mixing it up, no doubt. We got stories to tell on our book called vj, by the way, that we put out a couple of years ago, me and my cohorts about partying with David Lee Roth. We got the. We have the drug stories, you know, in the bathrooms late at night. But essentially I had to stay sane, fairly sober and responsible to get the gig done. So tough, tough, tough one to keep all of that together.

[Dan Patrick]

Once again, Fritzi, our resident singer, is not a Dylan fan. He doesn't like Springsteen either, thinks the Beatles are overrated. But I'll leave you with just a little bit of Bruce Springsteen from Fritzi and I'll get your thoughts.

[Todd]

All right, come on now. After she put her cancer band. All right, come on now.

[Alan Hunter]

I'm trying to think who he sounds like. And it's definitely not spring state.

[Caller or Listener (Buddha)]

You know that.

[Alan Hunter]

That's a funny story. If Bruce was one of those. No, no shade, by the way, Fritzi, no shade. I know who it was. You sounded like Michael McDonald, you know, the guy who does the shower, the comedian who does the, you know, here come her. Springsteen was, you know, in his 70s era when he came to, to, to the table. And then in the early 80s he was not really anywhere. But he popped up on Born in The usa. And he was ripped. He actually was a scrawny kid when he first started, but he realized the power of the video. And so for all of the videos on Born in the usa, he was pumped. He literally went and got in shape because he knew that the next stage for him was going to be that visual brand. And he, he got on board with it. I'll give him that for sure. He's one of the greats. You know, they're, they're, they're. I was more of an alt music guy, more of a Peter Gabriel. I like music that's a little more complex. I was a huge yes fan back in the prog rock days of the 70s and love their stuff in the, in the 80s. But Springsteen told stories and to this day speaks his mind. And that's what I appreciate about him the most.

[Dan Patrick]

Great stuff. Alan, thanks for joining us. Sirius XM host 80s on a classic rewind. I'm sure the request came out of left field. You're like, why am I going on a sports show?

[Alan Hunter]

Well, I, I know who you are, Dan. And I, I was fully willing to talk sports. The Cards, I'm living in St. Louis now, even though they're in third place. I mean, bats on balls. I mean, I, I made the mistake, one story of when I first moved here five years ago of going to Busch Stadium and the only hat I had was a Cubs hat. Little did I know because I was, I'm a huge Cubs fan. I lived in Chicago for a long time and I got into the stadium and man, I thought I was going to die. Quickly bought myself some, some cards, schwag, so. And go soccer. I'm not a big soccer guy, but I am now. Go USA.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Alan.

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Appreciate it. Alan Hunter, SiriusXM one of the original MTV BJ's. So I think we settled that pretty much. Dylan. We'll take a break. We'll talk about that after this.

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[Dan Patrick]

He's singing to the inmates there. James Brown at the Apollo. That's a powerful live album. The who Live at Leeds. Very well respected live album. I mean, there are albums. I just don't like hearing the crowd sing along or somebody yelling out in the audience. Yes.

[Todd]

How about when they introduced the band Frankie G on the slide trombone. They have to always work that into these live concerts. I was listening to Huey Lewis at the News from Australia or something on my, my playlist and they sung like the Tip to Be Square or one of those songs. And then all of a sudden he's like. They started introducing the news. And after he introduced all that, he goes, you just heard the news.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Todd. Welcome Sean in Kansas. Hi Sean, what do you have for me today?

[Caller or Listener]

Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. I just wanted to put some ammo in Dylan's pocket here. I believe Grateful Dead are that great. They are the only band to have completed two separate residences at the Sphere. So no one else has that. I also wanted to know. My 3 year old, about to be 4, wants to know if there is a shirt her size that has Marvin's hand on it so that she can show her friends how much bigger her hands are. Thanks.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know. We can, we can explore that. Maybe, maybe Tyler can look for, for a T shirt, a kid size True Green. Don't waste another weekend doing your lawn care yourself. Partner with the official lawn care treatment provider, the PGA Tour. Get a golf course quality lawn the easy way. Sign [e-mail] then sit back and relax. Bucky. Notre Dame. Hey Buck.

[Caller or Listener]

DP. Good morning. Happy me Friday, guys.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you.

[Caller or Listener]

I. Like I said, I called a couple weeks ago, I just got back from Liverpool, play some soccer at Anfield, but I did two Beatles tours, two different bus tours. And basically when you got done, you were singing hey Jude the entire bus and then you pulled up and then everybody around you was singing hey Jude. Every pub that you went in, it just got to hey Jude. So I am totally on your side. I love all bands, but it's a pretty good song. You guys have a great weekend. Thanks again.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you. Bucky Troy in Illinois. Hi, Troy.

[Caller or Listener]

Hey Dan, how you doing?

[Dan Patrick]

Good, good, good, good.

[Caller or Listener]

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Yeah, there's a lot of bands. Absolutely. Tom Petty, one of my favorite songs, Learning to Fly. But I Ain't Got Wings. Tripp in Vegas. Hi, Trip. What do you have?

[Caller or Listener]

Hey, good morning, dp. Always good to speak to you all. I got a couple of things I was thinking about the Todd cast and a neat name for it. Maybe just go around with Todd, since everybody has to go around him when he's driving. That's kind of a neat thing. And then for Dylan yesterday, I just want to know what you think. Was he selling encyclopedias, going to a third grade picture, or was he about to leave on a two year mission?

[Dan Patrick]

He had a lot of different looks yesterday with that suit and tie on. I like Public Defender. You kind of look like the guy who comes in, somebody's got to represent this criminal. And here you come, you're. You're sweaty, you're disheveled. Shirts kind of tucked in and out. Yes. Yeah. Deal.

[Dylan]

Well, after my storied legal career, I decided to do pro bono work. Then. My bad.

[Dan Patrick]

A little sensitive because Grateful Dead got kicked. Kicked to the curb a little bit by Alan Hunter. Yes, Dylan.

[Dylan]

Yeah, about that. That seemed like a bit of a hit job there. Maybe you, you know, talk to him beforehand, got his take, and you're like, I did not.

[Dan Patrick]

I did not. I did not. If he would have said, hey, Grateful Dead better than REM I would have been okay. That's your opinion.

[Fox Sports Radio Announcer]

Good.

[Dan Patrick]

You know, that's why I had him on whatever his opinion was. I didn't care. Grateful Dead is a thing. I. I happen to like music, my music a little bit more than it being a. A thing. Like the Grateful Dead's a thing. It's an experience that. Dang. Good for them. Yeah, good for them. They're not R.E.M. they're not Fleetwood Mac. They're not the Eagles, they're not Aerosmith. Should I continue?

[Dylan]

Thank God.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm gonna start calling you Molly. Final hour and it's Meet Friday. Coming up, who had the best week in sports? And Linda cone says goodbye to ESPN after 34 years.

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