Hour 3 – Aaron Rodgers Steelers Debut, Tony Gonzalez

Summary

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The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 3 (Sept 8, 2025)

Main Theme:
The show revolves around NFL Week 1 reactions, focusing on Aaron Rodgers' debut with the Steelers, notable weekend performances around the league, and a wide-ranging, candid conversation with Hall of Fame tight end Tony Gonzalez—covering football, his NBA flirtation, and even his ties to Jeff Bezos.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

NFL Weekend Reaction and Rodgers' Steelers Debut

• Aaron Rodgers' Strong Start:

  • Four TD passes in his Steelers debut; discussed whether this was a surprise.
  • Dan Patrick asserted, “I wasn’t surprised. I mean, four touchdowns. No, I didn’t expect that. But I did think, and I do think, I think his over/under is like 23 touchdowns this year. I mean, it might be 23 and eight or something like that, which they aren’t great numbers...” (05:09)

• Media Bias & Rodgers Narrative:

  • Dan: “A lot of people who don’t like Aaron Rodgers... you got to separate who Aaron Rodgers is off the field as opposed to who he is on the field. I still think... if he has protection, he throws the ball as well as he ever did.” (05:18)

• Perception Winners & Losers:

  • Panel discusses who gained the biggest perception boost: Aaron Rodgers, Chargers, Packers, or Daniel Jones.
  • Marvin: “I feel like a two full touchdown lead against a division rival... that Packers 27-13, that seems like the number one answer to me.” (06:17)

Other NFL Takeaways

• Packers Impress, Lions Struggle:

  • Dan: “No running game, really. No imagination on offense. That one stood out. Rodgers didn’t stand out. Danny Dimes... as long as he doesn’t make stupid mistakes..." (06:25)
  • Giants struggles post-Saquon Barkley. (06:25)

• Stat Nuggets:

  • Bills' historic comeback: “First team in NFL history to overcome a deficit of 15 or more points in the final four minutes of a fourth quarter to win a season opener...” (09:47)
  • “Since 2000, teams that are trailing by 15 or more points in the final four minutes are 3 and 2,312.” (09:47)

• Smelling Salts Silliness:

  • Extended riff on the prevalence of smelling salts on NFL sidelines:
    • Marvin: “I was watching more closely than ever on the sidelines to see if I spotted any smelling salts. Oh, I didn’t see any, though…” (08:33)
    • Paulie: “It’s BYO salts.” (08:49)
    • Dan: “Well, they’re probably not being front and center. This might be where you’re a little more discreet…” (08:59)
    • Jokes ensue: “I want my kicker salted up.” “Salt me up. Salt me…” (09:39–09:47)

College Football Quick Hits

• Brief comments on Oregon, Oklahoma, South Florida, Florida, and Oklahoma State games. Dan comments: “I think South Florida is a good team. Should Florida win that? Yeah, they probably should...” (13:13)
• Lighthearted banter regarding watching obscure games on The CW and hypothetical TV tech that selects programs for you. (15:16)

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Interview: Tony Gonzalez (24:42–38:42)

[24:42] Dan Patrick welcomes Tony Gonzalez—a legendary tight end now on Prime's Thursday Night Football.

Early Memories & NFL Toughness

• Second career game on MNF vs. Raiders; wild finish.
• Tony: “You go across the middle where they were aiming at your head and trying to knock you out... that was a different part of the game.” (25:44)
• Rivalries and player feuds: “My guy back then that I clashed with was Bill Romanowski. That was...dirty tactics, dirty cheat plays, spitting in your face. I’ve been spit in the face...that’s happened to me in the NFL.” (26:10)
• “What did Romanowski do to you?”—“The punch...the punch in the jaw after the play…” (27:05)

Week 1 Overreactions & Packers

• Tony’s biggest overreaction: “The Packers look like a Super Bowl team.” (27:57)
• Tony: “There is no doubt in my mind...I don’t see them a reason why they can’t beat Philly. If Jordan Love can play like he did...they look like the best team in the league, one, or at least the top two.” (27:57, 28:57)

Great Offenses Need “Closers” on Defense

• On impact defenders: “You play against these guys...DeMarcus Ware...Reggie White, Julius Peppers, Michael Strahan...Closers...where the Packers, they have that guy now.” (29:11, 29:57)

Tight End Legacy, Grudges, and Regrets

• Dan: “Who is the greatest tight end in Kansas City history?”
• Tony: “You gotta look at yourself like you the baddest mfer to ever walk around on a damn foot...If you put me with Peyton Manning or Tom Brady—come on, watch out.” (31:10–31:43)
• “I just wish I would have won a little more. That’s my biggest regret...those guys...they got jewelry. They get to wear big old diamond rings...but yeah, I wish I had one.” (32:39)

The “Good Loss” Debate

• Tony: “Especially early in the season...it’s a teaching lesson. Of course...you play the game as Herm Edwards said, you play to win the game. But you can always teach from it.” (32:45)

Tight End Evolution Influences

• Tony: “Kellen Winslow Sr., more my genre, Shannon [Sharpe] and Ben Coates...those guys are receiving type tight ends, but I always wanted to do both.” (33:30)

Tony’s Summer League NBA Stint

• Played with Miami Heat in 2002 Summer League; reveals intrigue and conspiracy keeping him off the court.
• “I saw...Stan Van Gundy...he goes, just understand, there was people higher up than me that might have made phone calls to make sure that you didn’t get to play that much...I got a feeling it was probably our GM, Carl Peterson...we were in a contract dispute.” (34:00)
• “Four-hour practices under Pat Riley...I never experienced anything like that.” (34:00)
• Tony insists he could have contributed in the NBA: “I could have played. I wouldn’t have started… but I could have went in the league, got you 8–10 rebounds a game, 8–10 points...call me crazy, I could have done that.” (36:05–36:52)

Fun and Personal

• On going to the Bezos wedding (his ex is now married to Bezos):
  • “They didn’t want anything. My presence. That’s what they said. Okay. It was just show up and bring a positive attitude.” (37:13)
  • Dan: “They had to be registered on Amazon…” (37:24)

Final Moments

• Tony: “You look good, you look like you could take a couple of snaps.”
  • Tony: “Yeah, I could go five yards, turn around, get down. I could do that still.” (38:00)
• Light banter on attending celebrity weddings and potential gifts for the ultra-wealthy.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Rodgers' Steelers debut:
  “You got to separate who Aaron Rodgers is off the field as opposed to who he is on the field.”—Dan Patrick (05:18)
• On Packers being legit:
  “No doubt in my mind at this point...I don’t see them a reason why they can’t beat Philly...they look like the best team in the league.”—Tony Gonzalez (28:57)
• On NFL’s dark side:
  “Dirty tactics, dirty cheat plays, spitting in your face. … I’ve been spit in the face… that’s happened to me in the NFL.”—Tony Gonzalez (26:10)
• On TE legacy:
  “You gotta look at yourself like you the baddest mfer to ever walk around on a damn foot...”—Tony Gonzalez (31:10)
• On NBA dreams:
  “I could have went in the league and got you 8–10 rebounds a game and got you 8–10 points a game. No doubt in my mind. Call me crazy, I could have done that.” (36:52)
• On gifts for Bezos:
  “They didn’t want anything. My presence. That’s what they said. Okay. It was just show up and bring a positive attitude.”—Tony Gonzalez (37:13)

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Lighthearted Panel Banter & Recurring Jokes

• Smelling salts jokes: “I want my kicker salted up”; “Salt me up. Salt me.”—Multiple (09:39–09:44)
• Jokes about TV tech putting on your spouse’s favorite (wrong) show:
  “No, because my wife did a drive by last night...then it might change over to Downton Abbey. No, we’re not doing that.” (15:49)

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Closing Segments & Headlines (45:50–48:02)

• Panel banters about hypothetical post-game headlines, with wordplay on player names (JJ, Johnson, Bears).
• Extended laughs over JJ Watt’s hairstyle and whether hair parted down the middle is “coming back.”
• Banter about bringing gifts to billionaire weddings and shell companies as “presents.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:57] – Start of main show content (sports discussion begins)
• [03:23] – Lamar Jackson/fan incident recap
• [04:33] – Panel debates “perception boost” poll
• [05:18] – Dan’s take on Aaron Rodgers’ perception/media bias
• [07:37] – Recap of poll results; “most inspirational loss”
• [08:33] – NFL smelling salts discussion (lighthearted)
• [09:47] – Bills historic comeback/“Stat of the Day”
• [11:20] – Aaron Rodgers' complicated exit from NY and return to face Packers
• [13:00] – Tony Gonzalez teed up as next guest
• [24:42] – Tony Gonzalez interview begins
  • [25:44] – NFL hits harder in Tony’s day
  • [27:57] – Packers as Super Bowl favorites?
  • [31:10] – Who’s the best Chiefs TE ever?
  • [33:30] – Tight ends who inspired Tony
  • [34:00] – Miami Heat summer league story
  • [37:13] – Bezos wedding anecdote
  • [38:42] – Interview wraps up
• [45:50] – Panel banter, headlines, and closing

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Tone and Style:

• Conversational, witty, slightly irreverent; mixture of sports insight, stats, and inside stories.
• Both Dan and Tony lean into candor, humility, and laughs (Tony on Super Bowls, getting spit on, and “coulda been an NBA guy”).
• Banter from co-hosts and staff is pun-filled and warmly self-deprecating.

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Summary in One Line:
A lively NFL Week 1 recap focusing on Aaron Rodgers’ big Steelers debut, topped off with Tony Gonzalez candidly reflecting on the game's evolution, rivalries, regrets, and brushes with NBA and tech tycoon royalty.

Transcript

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Tony Gonzalez]

What was that?

[Dan Patrick]

Oh my.

[Tony Gonzalez]

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[Dan Patrick]

And twice a week that is exactly.

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

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[Tony Gonzalez]

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[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

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[Dan Patrick]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Final hour, Final hour on this Monday. By the way, I misspoke. That was a third quarter touchdown that the fan was smacking. DeAndre Hopkins helmet and also Lamar Jackson. And Jackson then shoved the fan. And Lamar had this to say after the game about that incident in the third quarter.

[Tony Gonzalez]

I seen him slap D Hop, but.

[Dan Patrick]

You know, I wasn't really.

[Tony Gonzalez]

They slapped me. And he's saying, he's talking. So I, you know, I just forgot.

[Dan Patrick]

Where I was for a little bit.

[Tony Gonzalez]

You know, but, you know, you gotta, you gotta think in those situations. You know, you got security out there. Let security handle it, you know, but I just let the emotion, let my emotion get the best of me. But hopefully it don't happen again. You know, I learned from that.

[Dan Patrick]

So that's third quarter and him reacting to that or being asked to respond to his reaction to that fan. All right, final hour. Tony Gonzalez, hall of Famer, will stop by in a little bit. Sunday night. J.J. mcCarthy makes his Sunday night debut. How about that? Didn't take a snap his first year got hurt. Now he opens up on Monday night and then his next game is on Sunday night. So much about easing into the season. It'll be Sunday night, JJ McCarthy and the Vikings hosting Michael Penck Jr III and the Falcons, 7 Eastern on NBC and Peacock. All right, what do you have for me? Seaton with poll question and do we have a new one for the final hour of the program? We do. We do.

[Marvin Polyers]

And we do. KK Biggest perception boost of the weekend. Okay, Aaron Rodgers. How about the Chargers? How about the Packers? How about Daniel Jones?

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. All right. Daniel Jones. That was big. That was big. I. Rogers didn't surprise me. He didn't. I'm like, maybe not you. Oh, well. But I, if I'm giving my opinion.

[Paulie]

Then I guess what I'm saying is a lot of people in the sports media felt like they were expecting the Steelers to underwhelm with him. With him specifically.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I think there's a lot of different biases at State, you know, in place here. I think there's a lot of people who don't like Aaron Rodgers. I think you got to separate who Aaron Rodgers is off the field as opposed to who he is on the field. I still think that if he has protection, he throws the ball as, as well as he ever did. He's not going to be making those throws on the run the way he wants to, but he can still throw the football. He still understands how to play the game. And I, I wasn't surprised. I mean, four touchdowns. No, I didn't expect that. But I did think, and I do think, I think is over. Under is like 23 touchdowns this year. I mean, it might be 23 and eight or something like that, which they aren't great numbers. But if you have a balanced attack and a good defense and you make the playoffs. Yes, Todd, from that group, I feel.

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

Like a two full touchdown lead against a division rival. That, that Packers. 27, 13 of that group. That seems like the number one answer to me.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I thought the packers, that, that's one of those. Oh, okay. That, that they won. I'm not surprised how they won. I was surprised. And how inept Detroit's offensive line looked. I mean, no running game, really. No imagination on offense. That one stood out. Rogers didn't stand out. Danny Dimes. I, I'm in the minority. I think the, the Colts are going to be on the doorstep of a playoff appearance. I think his whole thing is as long as he doesn't make stupid mistakes. And it always felt like he was going to fumble or like he was doing something. And you know, that had such an impact on the Giants. And then you get rid of Saquon Barkley, by the way. Saquon Barkley, Randy Moss and Bill Murray are going to be on tonight's Manning cast. Seyquan, Randy and great story with Randy ring the bell with cancer treatment. And Bill Murray will be on there as well. So that's the Manning cast coming up tonight. What else do you have, Seton?

[Marvin Polyers]

Let's see, what else do we have here? Let me update you the other results. Okay, Just give me one moment.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, Back up. All right. Are we having technical difficulties? We are with our phone lines. Not sure if they're working yet.

[Marvin Polyers]

The most inspirational loss right now is the Jets Steelers. Although there are people who very much disagree there's anything inspirational about that loss. The team that had the worst weekend. So Dolphins and Gators are running away with that one for sure.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. I don't know what to expect from J.J. mcCarthy tonight. And it feels like it's a mixed bag of those covering the team reporters and giving you their thoughts that. Are the Vikings kind of propping him up here. Is he. Are they gonna keep it kind of vanilla neutral for him? You're on the road starting Your NFL career. Yeah, Seaton.

[Marvin Polyers]

I was watching. This is sort of a side topic and a complete left turn from what you're talking about, but I was watching more closely than ever on the sidelines to see if I spotted any smelling salts. Oh, I didn't see any, though. I wonder if there's been a league directive to say, like, ah, let's try not to catch those.

[Paulie]

It's BYO salts.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Marvin Polyers]

Yeah, it is BYO salts. Which means that there are people byoing their own salts. But I didn't. I didn't catch too many, though.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, they're probably not being front and center. This might be where you're a little more discreet. Yeah. You're in the alleyway and you're. What are you doing there? Smelling salts.

[Marvin Polyers]

Just like a Friday night at the bar.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, let me. Let me slip outside here. Yeah. Paulie.

[Paulie]

Mixed reports whether Matt Prater, the kicker for the Bills, salted up before his final kick. He's on the salt, but again, not illegal. Not performance enhancing.

[Dan Patrick]

Illegal performance enhancing if it's meant to cover up concussions with some players. He's a kicker, but why does the NFL allow it? Shouldn't they just say, no, you can't use smelling songs.

[Paulie]

I want my kicker salted up.

[Marvin Polyers]

Yeah, I kind of want them salted.

[Paulie]

Assault and battery.

[Dan Patrick]

Focus, lad.

[Marvin Polyers]

Focus is important.

[Dan Patrick]

Salt me up. Salt me. I'm never stop. The Buffalo Bills, the first team in NFL history to overcome a deficit of 15 or more points in the final four minutes of a fourth quarter to win a season opener. And that's a long winded way of giving you a kind of a stat of the day. Here's one for you. Since 2000, teams that are trailing by 15 or more points in the final four minutes of the fourth quarter are 3 and 2, 312, brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. And Mike hold scored on all seven offensive possessions, the first NFL team since 1978 to score on every offensive possession of a game. They didn't punt. Didn't punt. Like you can lose a game if you're Miami, you can lose a game and say, okay, some positives, man, I don't know. I don't know what the positives were, but that's one of those where it you immediately thought about Mike McDaniel and you go, he not going to make it. Not going to make it. It's one game, though. Let me see what happens next weekend at home against the Patriots. Yes, it is kind of odd.

[Marvin Polyers]

Speaking of people getting fired and whatnot. Aaron Rodgers, I love what he said.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Marvin Polyers]

But it is kind of odd that he spent two years there. He got their coach and GM fired. He made the team sign all of his friends.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Marvin Polyers]

And then he was just like, oh, yeah, by the way, they totally screwed me and now I want to beat them. I mean, they kind of bent everything towards him. It didn't work out. He got hurt. He got everybody canned. And he's like, yes, screw those guys.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, he did want to go back. What? Dude, what are you talking about? No, he did want to go back. He met with Aaron Glenn face to face and Aaron Glenn said, no, I'm good. You're not the right guy for our team. No, I'm good. Okay. But at least he was trying to go back. Here's another one for you. Aaron Rodgers, the first player to throw four touchdown passes in his Steelers debut. Okay. Yay. Yeah, Paulie.

[Paulie]

Going back to the Colts, Tyler Warren, the rookie tight end out of Penn State. Remember that monster last year at Penn State? Seven catches, 76 yards in his debut.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

Nice player.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. But did you know Tyler Warren and Harold Fannin Jr. III of the Browns each had seven receptions, the most receptions by a tight end in their first NFL game since Buffalo's Keith McKellar had nine in 1987. Stat of the day. You didn't know you were going to get a Keith McKellar stat today, but you got one. Yes, Paul.

[Paulie]

Dan, for you, only a bonus Keith McKellar stat. That 87 season where he caught nine balls in his rookie opener. He caught nine balls on the season. That was it. One and done one game.

[Dan Patrick]

Here's another one for you. Since 2023, the Giants have had nine games in which they failed to score an offensive touchdown, most in the NFL over that span. That's hard to do in today's NFL where everything is kind of been put in place for more scoring. And you go nine games without scoring an offensive touchdown. That's not good. Okay, Tony Gonzalez will join us. We did talk a little bit about college football with Oregon. Over Oregon, Oklahoma State, South Florida. And I think South Florida is a good team. You know, should Florida win that? Yeah, they probably should. Oklahoma over Michigan. I don't know how good either one of those teams is, but that's a game that Oklahoma has to win. And Brent Venables, we kept hearing, you know, he's defensive minded guy. They did a good job with the. The Michigan kid. Underwood and Mater played really well. It was fun game to Watch, because there wasn't. There weren't many other games to watch that were any good. I watched, I think three minutes of Ohio State against scrambling. I still think they should let Grambling bring the band on the field as well and play like they should be on the field with, you know, the. The team simultaneously. Yes, yes, yes, Marvin.

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

I think Oklahoma needed that win just like Florida State needed that win the week before against Alabama. Because look, after Lincoln Riley left, that's.

[Tony Gonzalez]

Supposed to be a destination school, not.

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

A school you leave to go somewhere else.

[Tony Gonzalez]

So I think that program got hurt.

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

After Lincoln Riley left.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

Todd Paul gave us a nice heads up. I flipped over to smu, Baylor. That was a lot of fun. Double overtime.

[Dan Patrick]

But I think Baylor's beaten SMU 12 times in a row. Ah, too soon. I think I just tuned in to watch the game winning field goal. I, you know, can't keep track. That was on the cw, wasn't it?

[Paulie]

The home of football?

[Dan Patrick]

I can't even. I don't know where the CW is, but I think it found me. They were just looking for viewers and I'm like, oh, hey, there's a football game on. That's the way it should be. Your TV should just find you the things that you need. Yeah.

[Paulie]

Paulie, I, I had a thought about this weekend. You know how you come down into your kitchen. What if it could sense which person is walking into your whatever room and put on your favorite TV show? It's like both turn your TV on like lights and go right to your analytically most popular TV show.

[Dan Patrick]

No, because my wife did a drive by last night in the basement. Then it might change over to Downton Abbey. And. No, we're not doing that. I got. I was watching the game, but sometimes she'll walk in and then she just doing a drive by. But when she does the who's playing, then I know. Then I'm explaining some things. Who's playing Buffalo. And that. That. That's Baltimore. Okay, who's the team in the blue? That's. That's Buffalo. And. And what. What's the Ravens colors? I go purple or something. And then she started asking questions. Have you been to a game in Buffalo? Yes, yes, I have. What about Baltimore? Yes, I have one. And then like my answers got shorter and shorter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

Todd, he's trying to share the experience with you so you're not just, you.

[Dan Patrick]

Know, sitting there by yourself. I'm fine with myself.

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

He wants to contribute and be part of your evening.

[Dan Patrick]

I am fine with myself. I don't need any friends. I don't need any companionship. What?

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

She's been with you long enough to know. Like, she would never say something like, I think it's 10 to 16, the Buffalo or something like that. Giving a low score first or calling a team the Baltimores.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, she did say that somebody was safe at home base and. But, you know, I'd look at this small little things. We went to a tennis match, Madison Square Garden, Virginia Slims, and Martina Nervitalova ready to serve. And my wife is talking during this. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. And that was one of my first dates with her. Martina is throwing the ball up, and we're. We're courtside, and she's just talking. And then Martina and then looks over at me, and then I said, hon, you can't talk. Why not? I said, because no one else is talking. I said, you can whisper, but you can't talk. And she couldn't understand that. She goes, at other. Why is it that a football game or a baseball game or a basketball game, I'm allowed to talk? I said, I don't know, hon, but, you know, even golf, you're not. Like, you can't talk at golf. And I go, no, you can't. But that was one of my first dates with my wife. And I remember years later seeing Martina. And I go, I know you're not going to remember this. I said, but. And I told her the story. And she goes, and I remember where you were sit. You were seated. And I said, you remember that? She goes, of course I do. You're talking. While I was serving, she was playing Hanuman Likova. Oh, yes.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paulie, at least she got shushed by a legend.

[Dan Patrick]

I know. Well, she didn't even realize it. I did. I got shushed. You know, my wife didn't. Shh. I said, they're talking. You can't talk. Why?

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

Quiet, please. Thank you. Thank you, Mrs. Patrick.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, and I end up marrying her. Okay, how about we take a break? Tony Gonzalez said to join us. Big old hall of famer once again. His big old tight end or his young freshman. Like, why do we keep saying that freshmen are always young and your tight end is always a big old. Ah, he found his big old tight end down the field now. That young freshman.

[Tony Gonzalez]

Yes, Marvin, freshmen are always young. There was a 66 year old freshman in one of the marching bands.

[Dan Patrick]

I saw him.

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

Yes, so they're not always young.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, he was in the band.

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

I mean, tomato, tomato.

[Dan Patrick]

Let me take a break. We're back after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at.

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This is John Middelkoff from three and out with John Middelkoff. Thursday Night Football is back and it's only on Prime Video. This week, the Washington Commanders take on the Green Bay packers, with both teams determined to prove their worth. Coverage begins at 7pm Eastern with Football's Best Party TNF tonight presented by Verizon. Not a Prime member, Not a problem. Simply sign up for a 30 day free trial. It's the Commanders and the packers Thursday at 7pm Eastern, only on Prime Video. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com amazonprime for details.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Dan Patrick]

Vikings at the Bears tonight. Vikings are a slight favorite in J.J. mcCarthy's NFL debut. He's Tony Gonzalez, hall of Famer and you can see him Thursday Night Football on Prime. A fourth season of that. They'll be at Lambeau Thursday, the Packers hosting the Commanders on September 11th. Coverage begins on Thursday Night Football at 7 Eastern. Good to see you again, Tony. Your second career game was a Monday night game against Oakland. Really?

[Tony Gonzalez]

Oh yeah, yeah. I remember now. Yep.

[Dan Patrick]

What do you remember about that?

[Tony Gonzalez]

I remember the game winning touchdown thrown by Elvis Gerbach over the top. We thought the game was over. We thought we're gonna lose. And then he hit it over the top to Andre Bad Moon Rising and we. And we won. And I remember going, what the hell? That was crazy. Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Where the Raiders nasty back then was that old school Raiders?

[Tony Gonzalez]

Oh yeah. Well, the whole NFL was back back then. I mean you go the rules and everybody. I'm sure every old head that comes on your show talks about it. It's a different game than what it was back then where you go across the middle where they were aiming at your head and trying to knock you out of the game. That was, that was a different part of the game. But, but yeah, the rivalry is still real.

[Dan Patrick]

Was there a guy on the Raiders who made you nervous?

[Tony Gonzalez]

No, no, no, not that I can remember. My guy back then that I clashed with was Bill Romanowski. That, that was. I couldn't stand him. I still can't, thinking back, but that's that old school football that, that, that, you know, dirty tactics, dirty cheat plays, spitting in your face. I saw that little spinning thing. I'm like, I've been spit in the face that, that's happened to me in the NFL.

[Dan Patrick]

Who spit in your face?

[Tony Gonzalez]

I don't know. I don't know the name. But I've. I've had it twice where somebody spit on me. One time spit in my face and then another time spit on my shoulder pad. And I can't remember the guys who did it. I remember going nuts, going crazy trying to fight him. And I think, yeah, we did get into a little fight, I believe, but. But y. Not that. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't that Common. But. But it's happened.

[Dan Patrick]

What did Romanowski do to you?

[Tony Gonzalez]

The punch. The punch into the jaw after the play, get your tackle going out of bounce and him coming diving at your knees? Yeah, a lot. A lot of talking trash to your face, telling you, you know, all this difference and a lot of holding the guy, it wasn't.

[Dan Patrick]

He wasn't.

[Tony Gonzalez]

I didn't think he was very good, but just a lot of rage going on there. I'm sure that was brought on by other stuff that he was injecting in himself back then that brought rage on. So, yeah, I didn't particularly care for him too much. Trying to ruin people's careers.

[Dan Patrick]

What's the game that you're. You're overreacting to the result of what happened this weekend that you either overreacting in a positive or a negative way.

[Tony Gonzalez]

Overacting. I. I'm. I mean, it's probably. You're probably gonna see it this week on our. On our game. I think maybe I'm overreacting, but the packers look like a Super bowl team. You know, if you. Before the trade with Micah, I would say I would have had them as the fourth best team in the nfc. And after this weekend and seeing what they could build off of, I mean, there is no doubt in my mind at this point. I don't see them a reason why they can't beat Philly. I think for sure they have the firepower. And it all comes down to Love. I mean, people talk about Micah that's. They're set on defense now if nobody gets hurt. But if Jordan Love can play like he did this past weekend with all the weapons, and they're the youngest team in the NFL, their window is wide open and. And I'm looking at them, I'm very excited to watch them play in person this week. They look like the best team in the league. One, or at least the top two.

[Dan Patrick]

Teams in the league. What is it like, though, to be on offense and there's that disruptor on defense that when you go to the line of scrimmage, you have to account for him. How often did that happen when you were playing and who were some of those guys?

[Tony Gonzalez]

Well, I mean, DeMarcus Ware, I played with a great guy named Derek Thomas. I played against Reggie White, Julius Peppers. You play against these guys that, that Michael Strahan, that. That can. Closers. They call them closers. And like, looking at last night's game, I was talking about a good buddy of mine used to play with Billy Baber. He. We were Talking about the game with, with the Bills and the Ravens. And at the end of the game you're like, who is the closer on both their teams? And I'm, and I'm thinking to myself, that's what's probably going to hurt this team once you get to like the playoffs. Who is a guy and go get you a sack when the game is on the line at the end of the game. Chris Jones type guy.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Tony Gonzalez]

And I don't know if they have one. At least I haven't seen that type of guy. Where the packers, they have that guy now. And so that's why once they get close games, they can run the ball with Josh Jacobs and they got a closer on the other side of the ball now to go along with all that other talent. That's that what, what, what it really, what I really like about him that makes him so dangerous to me.

[Dan Patrick]

Talking to Tony Gonzalez, the Hall of Famer, who is the greatest tight end in Kansas City history?

[Tony Gonzalez]

Kansas City history. I don't know. Give me a couple options. Give me a couple options there.

[Dan Patrick]

You okay?

[Tony Gonzalez]

Who else?

[Dan Patrick]

Kelsey. Okay.

[Tony Gonzalez]

I think we both have staked our claim. I know he's the, he's the most charismatic tight end in, in. I love, I love Travis. I love him to death. I mean, I think what he's done for that position on and off the field, what he's. He's my guy. And we both did well with, with what we had and he certainly is balling out with him and Patrick. They have that connection and it'll. It's going to be tough to duplicate for anybody going forward.

[Dan Patrick]

So who's the best tight end in Kansas City history?

[Tony Gonzalez]

Well, I always give this answer. If you say, politically speaking, you're going to say, you know, you could choose. But confidently speaking, the way I look at myself and I think any great looks at themselves when they walk out on that field, you gotta look at yourself like you the baddest mfer to ever walk around on a damn foot, put on a pair of cleats and so when I walked in that field, there was nobody that can guard me. I'm gonna get open every time. Throw it to me. If you put me with, with, with Peyton Manning or Tom Brady.

[Dan Patrick]

Come on, watch out.

[Tony Gonzalez]

Then the numbers I did put up, they would have been better. They would have been better.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Imagine if you had a steady quarterback.

[Tony Gonzalez]

Yeah. Yeah. Nothing against the guys I played with, but I mean, it is what we're talking about. You know, you play with a guy like, like Tom or Peyton. It changes things. Or Aaron. It changes things. You wonder why the best receivers have. Usually they play with hall of Fame type quarterbacks. The hall of Fame receivers play with hall of Fame quarterbacks, so. And vice versa. It goes both ways, but, you know, it is. I know this. I gave everything I got and I put up. I did some good stuff. I just wish I would have won a little more. That's my biggest regret. Obviously. I would have loved to have gotten a ring. And that's where those guys, you know, someone like Travis and Gronk and the rest of them, they. They got. They got jewelry. They get to wear big old diamond rings and they can always show them to me and I'm happy for them. But yeah, I wish I had one. I wish I had one.

[Dan Patrick]

Ever have a good loss?

[Tony Gonzalez]

I mean, if you psychologically want to spin it that way, yeah, you can have a good life for sure. Especially early in the season. Early in the season, you back, hey, we played well. We just went. Came up against the Black.

[Dan Patrick]

The Jets. The jets against the Steelers. Played pretty well. Justin Fields played pretty well. But you. They lost the game.

[Tony Gonzalez]

Now it's the guy. I think it's early in the season. It's a, it's a, it's a teaching lesson.

[Dan Patrick]

Of course.

[Tony Gonzalez]

You always want to win, though. There's no doubt about it. You play the game as Herman Edwards, jets corps. He played a game to win. So if, if you can't, if you don't come out on top. You always got that bad taste in your mouth. But you can always teach from it. Early in the season. At the end of the season doesn't matter. We don't care what happened. We got to get it done. We're trying to get to the playoffs, so we're trying to win the playoff game.

[Dan Patrick]

Who was the tight end who changed the position?

[Tony Gonzalez]

I think Kelly Winslow.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Tony Gonzalez]

Senior, more my, my genre. I think I would go with Shannon and Ben Coates a little bit. I think he doesn't get enough credit. I Remember he had 100 catches one year at least. Somebody that I looked at it was like, okay, those guys are. Are receiving type tight ends, but obviously I've always wanted to do both. But yeah, those, those guys.

[Dan Patrick]

What did you keep from when you played with the Miami Heat in the summer league? What was that, 2002?

[Tony Gonzalez]

Yeah, 2002. I always look at that experience. By the way, I saw. I ran into Stan Van Gundy, the coach. He was. Well, Pat. Pat Riley was our coach at the beginning. And then Stan took over for the rest of the summer and I was always mad at him because my first game I had, I had 11 rebounds, played great, my guy didn't score. And I only have two points though I was one for seven. And I asked Stan, I was mad at him because he never, he hardly played me after that, which I didn't understand. And so I ran into him this summer and he said, well Tom, what'd you. He goes, just understand there was people higher up than me that might have made phone calls to make sure that you didn't have, didn't get to play that much. And so I got a feeling it was probably our general manager, Carl Peterson back then who was in a contract dispute. That was the reason I went late. And so I think he probably was like, hey, don't, don't he, you know, he's going to play football. So. But I, but take away Pat. Watching Pat Riley coach and Stan coach the four hour practices that we had under Pat Riley, that it was incredible. I never ever experienced anything like that. A four hour practice straight under Pat Riley, which I'm from LA too, growing, growing up watching Showtime and Magic and Worthy and, and that everything at the, at the Forum, to have Pat Riley coach you, that was a pretty cool thing, Pretty cool experience.

[Dan Patrick]

Who'd you play against in the summer league?

[Tony Gonzalez]

I can't remember my team. I think we had one of the best summer league teams ever. We had Karam Butler, Malik J, Malik J. James. Yep. Rasool Butler, God rest his soul. Rest in peace. Malik Allen, I believe it was. We had, we didn't, we're undefeated. We didn't even lose. So played with some good guys and great coaches to have. Spoelstra was on the coaching staff. Bob McAfee was on that coaching staff. Bank obviously, Coach Van Gunday, Pat Riley, it was, it was one of the best things I ever did.

[Dan Patrick]

11 rebounds for a guy who's 6 5. That's pretty good.

[Tony Gonzalez]

Yeah, I could play the league now, Dan. I could have played. I got. Okay, how about that? You want to know what I got answered? I got answered. People say, you think you could have played in the NBA. I'm like, after that experience, absolutely. I could have played. I wouldn't have started probably, but because I would have went from 11 for 7, I would have made that 3 or 4 for 7 and I still would have got those rebounds. So I think I could have been in that. I would have worked myself to my jump shot. Would have been a little bit better.

[Dan Patrick]

Could you have Been like a Draymond Green.

[Tony Gonzalez]

I don't know about good him. Talk about a Hall of Fame player, but. But yeah, I think I could have played. There's no doubt about it. I know that I could have went in the league and. And got you 8 to 10 rebounds a game and got you 8 to 10 points a game. I. No doubt in my mind. Call me crazy. I could have done that.

[Dan Patrick]

Could be making $50 million a year in today's NBA with those numbers.

[Tony Gonzalez]

No, I wish. Underpaid like these damn tight ends. They don't pay, these tight ends.

[Dan Patrick]

I know.

[Tony Gonzalez]

You start beating that drum, they're underpaid. It's ridiculous.

[Dan Patrick]

What did you get the Bezos for their wedding gift?

[Tony Gonzalez]

My. My, my. They didn't want anything. My presence. That's what they said. Okay. It was just show up and bring a positive attitude. That's the gift that you want to bring.

[Dan Patrick]

So. Wait, you didn't have to. They weren't registered anywhere. Nobody. Nobody brought any gifts. They had to be registered on Amazon.

[Tony Gonzalez]

Well, give me an idea. What would you have gotten them?

[Dan Patrick]

He does kind of have everything. Maybe. Maybe just like an autographed picture of you.

[Tony Gonzalez]

I don't think they would have wanted that. I know where that would have went. Bottom drawer.

[Dan Patrick]

Great to talk to you.

[Tony Gonzalez]

Yeah, as always.

[Dan Patrick]

Hope you're having fun. You look good. You look like you could take a couple of snaps.

[Tony Gonzalez]

Yeah, I could go five yards.

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

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[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Tony Gonzalez]

Get down. Yeah, I could do that. Still.

[Dan Patrick]

I mean, there's some teams that could do that. That's what Kelsey's doing now. Are you going to go to the wedding? You think you'll get invited to that wedding, too?

[Tony Gonzalez]

Maybe. Maybe. I think that'd be a good one. That'd be a fun one. I got a feeling they're gonna keep that one kind of small.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, okay.

[Tony Gonzalez]

That's one of those tight guest list.

[Dan Patrick]

You can see Tony Thursday Night Football. It'll be on the 11th. It'll be the commanders and the packers from Lambeau. Thank you, Tone. Great to see you again, man.

[Tony Gonzalez]

As always, Dan. Thanks for having me.

[Dan Patrick]

Tony Gonzalez, he had 1500 yards. Like they. When you see Tony's stats, you go, Dang. He had 15,000 yards receiving. He had 1300 receptions. 14 time Pro Bowler, six time first team all pro. He's underrated. I think he was too good. And it just. We took him for granted. He was too consistent. Yeah, Paulie, he was first team all.

[Paulie]

Pro at 23 and 36.

[Dan Patrick]

Dang.

[Paulie]

That does. That's the Reggie White stuff.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. And he went to the Bezos wedding because his ex is married to Jeff Bezos and I and he has a son with his ex, Jeff's wife.

[Paulie]

Lovely to be invited.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Well, you want to invite the son, but then Tony gets to go, too. But I think they get they vacation. I think they have a good relationship.

[Paulie]

Yes, that does seem to be a one seed for tough weddings on knowing what to buy the groom and bride, who have almost literally everything.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, they can. They can have everything. Right. But it would be nice to go to a wedding and not feel bad that, you know, you didn't get a good gift or the wrong gift. You could just show up and say, hi, I'm here. But I don't know what you get a billionaire. I don't know. Kawhi Leonard, you know, maybe get them.

[Marvin Polyers]

Yeah, you get them a shell company to then funnel money through another shell.

[Dan Patrick]

Allegedly.

[Marvin Polyers]

Oh, sorry. That was that. I thought that there's enough space between Kawhi and that. Those are unrelated thoughts. My apologies.

[Dan Patrick]

I haven't heard anything more.

[Marvin Polyers]

I got you this account in the Cayman Islands.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you. Another one. I needed another one. Thank you so much. We can add another all star. All right, let's take a break. All right, take a break. We might try to get some calls in here. We've had some problems today and we'll do best and worst of the weekend tomorrow since we didn't get the phone calls in today.

[Marvin Polyers]

Keep it rolling.

[Dan Patrick]

How about every single day we'll just do best and worst of the weekend throughout the rest of the week. We'll. We'll take a break here. How about we take a break and last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store tomorrow after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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This is John Middelkoff from three and out with John Middelkoff. Thursday Night Football is back and it's only on Prime Video. This week, the Washington Commanders take on the Green Bay packers, with both teams determined to prove their worth. Coverage begins at 7pm Eastern with Football's Best Party TNF tonight presented by Verizon. Not a Prime member? Not a problem. Simply sign up for a 30 day free trial. It's the Commanders and the packers. Thursday at 7pm Eastern only on Prime Video. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com Amazon prime for details.

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[Dan Patrick]

Alrighty, we'll close up shop here. Our good buddy Mark Sanchez will be on the program tomorrow and hopefully we'll get our phone lines back by then. Tyler has been working feverishly. Well, at least he tells me he's been working feverishly. Every time I go back there, he's petting the dog. I go how the phone lines? Not very good. But then he'll be petting my, my puppy Winnie. So see this day in sports history, what we learned. How about we write the headline? Tonight's game you're going to write the headline. What's the headline going to be tomorrow, Todd?

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

I'm going with JJ McCarthy was Dino might soldier on Caleb old school.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, J.J. walker, good times. Seaton, you write the headline.

[Marvin Polyers]

Bears put the B in B game. Ben Johnson brings a game.

[Dan Patrick]

You love. You love doing that, don't you Marvin? Create the headline.

[Tony Gonzalez]

Bear with us. Chicago loses badly.

[Paulie]

Oh, Paul, mine was way too close to that. I'm in that audible. Check out my Johnson. Ben wins Bears debut.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, all right.

[Marvin Polyers]

Courtesy also is good for a reference like that. Turns out, yeah, he likes a, a a Johnson joke. He can throw it.

[Dan Patrick]

Who doesn't?

[Paulie]

It's subtle.

[Marvin Polyers]

Yes, extremely subtle. I really took me a minute to figure out what exactly you Were referencing there. I'm like, what does he mean?

[John Middelkoff]

Oh, oh, I get it.

[Dan Patrick]

How about smoking a jj? Okay, Bears rough up qb. What do you think?

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

Serviceable. How about JJ Watt? Three picks.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, by the way, JJ Watt with the hair.

[Paulie]

Big topic.

[Dan Patrick]

What happened?

[Marvin Polyers]

Those are. There's two stories that we sort of buried the lead on today. One of them was J.J. watts hair.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, it was parted down the middle and it's feathered. And then Seaton goes. I think this might be a nod to Travis Kelsey's new haircut. Is this a thing? Hair parted down the middle and feathered.

[Paulie]

I've been tracking this with JJ's hair for a while now. It's longer than it's ever been. And then he has the headset on pre game. I don't know if that pushed the hair down or the middle part was a choice. We're still looking into that.

[Dan Patrick]

I think you should reach out to him.

[Paulie]

Yeah, already have.

[Dan Patrick]

Because I don't want to talk to him about anything other than just his hair. Of course. If he wants to come on the show.

[Paulie]

It was borderline feathered.

[Dan Patrick]

I. That's. That. That was high school. Like, I was looking at that going, I can relate to that. 50 years ago. Is it coming back? Parted down the middle, Feathered.

[Paulie]

But he had the shortcut for years as a football player.

[Dan Patrick]

Letting it get out there. I don't know that that one looked like. That's a. That's a wifey type thing. You know what? I saw Travis Kelsey and I like, I wonder how your hair would look if you cut it like that and parted it down the middle. Yes.

[Marvin Polyers]

Nobody has switched up more than Travis Kelsey in the last year and change. His whole vibe is switched up, hadn't it?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Marvin Polyers]

You know, I want to part my hair down the middle now these days.

[Paulie]

Is that making a comeback? Hair parted down the middle.

[Dan Patrick]

Marvin, I think Travis Kelsey went to a new barbershop. Yeah. Yeah.

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

His old girlfriend.

[Tony Gonzalez]

He was going to the barbershop.

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

I was going to.

[Marvin Polyers]

Now he goes to a salon.

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

He definitely goes to Super Cuts.

[Dan Patrick]

Is. She's. She's not. She's not going away quietly. Kelsey's ex.

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

She is not.

[Dan Patrick]

No, she's not. She's not happy. She's not happy.

[Marvin Polyers]

What is she getting them for the wedding?

[Dan Patrick]

I don't think she's going to be invited. How about this day in sports history? Paul, let's go.

[Paulie]

1986. Herschel Walker, the running back made his first start in the National Football League after leaving the New Jersey generals of the USFL and 2002, the new team, the Houston Texans, played their first regular season game. They beat the Dallas Cowboys 19 to 10. That was a big deal.

[Dan Patrick]

That was 2002. Yep, 2002. So Mark Sanchez on the program, Seth Wickersham, author, has a book that has to do with quarterbacks. Let me see if I can give you the official title. It's American Kings, A biography of the quarterback, Seth Wickersham. Yes.

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

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[Dan Patrick]

Why did you lead with Elway?

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

Did I say away first? Well, because Elway should be first.

[Dan Patrick]

And then you went Manning. Yeah.

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

With the two Bronco quarterbacks. Yeah, that would make sense.

[Dan Patrick]

Elway, Manning and then Brian Greasy.

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

Brian Greasy. Brett Rippin, Osweiler. There's a whole bunch of guys there. Chris Sims.

[Dan Patrick]

These are. These are Cutler. Yeah. All Bronco quarterback.

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

Actually, they are. I didn't even think of that.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, All Bronco quarterbacks is Jay Cutler. Didn't you go to jail for four days for a dwi?

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

Some type of incident?

[Paulie]

I think it's pending.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, pending that he's going to jail.

[Marvin Polyers]

Is going to jail.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, for four days.

[Paulie]

Released after three good behavior.

[Dan Patrick]

Let me see final results of the poll questions.

[Marvin Polyers]

Man, people are really dogging Florida football today. I could tell you that. Yeah, those are the two who had the worst weekend, the Dolphins and Florida football. That one most inspirational loss, though the jets should be happy about the way they played against the Steelers.

[Dan Patrick]

Although we have a resident jets fan here, Rob, and he is not. He wants no part of this inspirational loss. He's waving us off. How about we go around the room what we learned on the program? Todd, you learned anything today?

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

I did. You thought for a minute Oregon was playing Oklahoma State Technical Institute or something, not Mike Gundy's Cowboys with that score.

[Dan Patrick]

I was shocked. Seaton. This week's college football is a little weak. Marvin.

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

Tony Gonzalez still can't stand Bill Romanowski.

[Dan Patrick]

I know. And he thinks he could have played in the NBA. But see, like, he's a big guy in the NFL. He's only 65 in the NBA.

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

He's a shooting guard.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, well, I don't know if he was a great shooter, good athlete. Paul, what'd you learn today?

[Paulie]

I enjoyed loose Tony Gonzalez.

[Dan Patrick]

Todd, what did I learn?

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

Tony G. Once had a chance to play for Pat Riley on the Miami Heat summer league team. Including four hour practices.

[Dan Patrick]

Thanks for joining us. Our pleasure to serve you. We'll try to do better tomorrow for Fritzi Seaton, Marv Polyers Truly. Have a great day everybody.

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[Dan Patrick]

Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game.

[Tony Gonzalez]

What was that?

[Dan Patrick]

Oh my. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week that is exactly.

[Tony Gonzalez]

What you're gonna get. Listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Dan Patrick]

Do we really need another podcast with a condescending finance bro trying to tell us how to spend our own money? No thank you. Instead out Brown Ambition. Each week I your host Mandy Money gives you real talk, real advice with a heavy dose of I feel uses. Like on Fridays when I take your questions for the baqa. Whether you're trying to invest for your future, navigate a toxic workplace, I got you. Listen to Brown ambition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about how to be a better you.

[Dan Patrick]

When you think emotion regulation, you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denial is easier. Complex problem solving takes effort.

[Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman]

Listen to the Psychology podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

It's important that we just reassure people.

[Tony Gonzalez]

That they're not alone and there is help out there.

[John Middelkoff]

The Good Stuff Podcast Season two takes a deep look into One Tribe Foundation, a non profit fighting suicide in the veteran community. September is National Suicide Prevention Month, so join hosts Jacob and Ashley Schick as they bring you to the front lines of One Tribe's mission.

[Dan Patrick]

One Tribe saved my life twice.

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Welcome to Season two of the Good Stuff.

[John Middelkoff]

Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Dan Patrick]

This is an iHeart podcast.