Dan Patrick (3:26)

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Final hour on this Tuesday. Dan and the Danettes Dan Patrick Show. Reggie Miller will stop by a little bit later on. We'll talk to the Monday morning quarterback Albert Brear. Lo and behold, the Colts have finally found their quarterback. He's 44 year old Philip Rivers. Not signed yet, but I guess he worked out. We'll talk to Albert Breer about that possibility. I'm guessing Riley Leonard is going to be out there even on one leg against Seattle. I can't imagine having anybody quarterbacking against Seattle's defense, let alone a 44 year old Philip Rivers out there in Seattle. Chargers over the Eagles. Chargers are now 9 and 5. Philly is 8 and 5 and that was all on Jalen Hurts, including the overtime interception, four interceptions. Also had a fumble as well. The ACC responded to Notre Dame saying that they value the partnership and blah blah, blah, blah, blah blah blah blah. Notre Dame has a press conference in an hour from now. From what we've been told two different sources that this was scheduled. This isn't in response to the ACC and being snubbed by the College Football Playoff committee, but I'm sure that there will be questions about the acc. This is more for the local media to kind of do the reset as you go into the off season. That's what we were told. Don't know if there's going to be any declaration. I mean my opinion, my advice would be if you want to say anything about the ACC in your relationship, why not say we're going to take 30 days to reassess our relationship with the ACC. That way you don't react right away. I think they reacted right away when they got snubbed with the playoff committee and the players voted and said we're not going to play. I think if you gave them a couple of days to say, hey, we can still play as a team. We're not going to have everybody but we still get to play as a team, you know, that would be a great way to end the season. Not the way we thought. But you know what, we're Notre Dame. Let's go out head held high, be proud of who we are and what we did this year. This isn't our fault, it's somebody else's. I mean that would be the approach that I Would have, but from what we're told, this was scheduled, this was really for the local media. Stat of the day is always brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show.

Dan Patrick (5:53)

Seton, how about the poll question for the final hour? And then we'll get to the popular Albert Breer. Yeah, we got up there right now. Philip Rivers coming back to the Colts. 73% of the audience have that as a terrible idea, and, man, they're in trouble. Colts, Chiefs, Eagles, Ravens. Colts are running away with that one. About half the vote. Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback, senior NFL reporter. They call him Bert locally. I was watching the Patriots pregame show, and all I know is Tom Kern and Michael Hawley kept saying, let's go out to Bert. And I go, who's Bert? Next thing I know, I got Albert Brer on the field. So should I call you Bert?

Albert Breer (6:33)

You can call me whatever you want, Dan. I never correct anybody on that. So whatever you're most comfortable with, I'm good with.

Dan Patrick (6:39)

Okay. If Philip Rivers is the answer, I don't want to know the question, but I do have to ask that question. If not Philip Rivers, what are the other options for the Colts as a backup quarterback or starting slash backup quarterback?

Albert Breer (6:54)

I mean, the plan. If it's not Riley Leonard, which we'll see, you know, you know, he's got the sprained knee.

Dan Patrick (7:00)

If it's.

Albert Breer (7:01)

If it's not Riley Leonard, Brett Rippin, who does have experience and has played in the NFL, would probably be the next answer. And you'd be working out some guys on Tuesday, which is today, to try to. To try to figure out, you know, where you can go. This is really sort of a, you know, I got a perfect storm of. Of quarterback crap, you know, like in dealing with Jones getting hurt. And I'm not making light of it, but like Daniel Jones having a torn Achilles after playing on. On a fractured fibula, Riley Leonard tweaks his knee. You've got Anthony Richardson, who has the orbitable or orbital injury. Like, from what I understand, he's still resting that eye. There's no timetable for his return. And, you know, you've got a team that's clearly reeling, there's lost three games in a row that's got a gauntlet down the stretch has Seattle and San Francisco the next couple of weeks.

Albert Breer (7:57)

You know, if you're Chris Ballard and Shane Steichen and the guys in charge there, you're doing everything you can to try to create some level of hope that they can, you know, dig what was an incredibly promising season out of a ditch. And so I'm sure we'll get more into why Philip and all of that, but, you know, there aren't a ton of options. We're past the trade deadline. You know, the guys that are out there are out there for, for. For a pretty clear reason. You're not available at the most important position on the field this time of year. If, if there are a lot of teams that think he can help.

Dan Patrick (8:33)

He hadn't played in five years now, granted. Yeah, I, I don't think his arm strength is going to be lesser because it wasn't great, didn't have mobility. But I, I mean, can you see a scenario where Philip Rivers is playing football the rest of this season?

Albert Breer (8:50)

Well, so he had his workout last night, and, and my understanding is he threw it pretty well. But like you said, like, I think you sort of expect that. I rem conversation with Joe Flacco earlier this year, and he said to me, he's like, I think I'm going to be able to throw at an NFL level until I'm 50. He's like, I don't think my arm strength's going away. And I think anybody, like, even like a suburban dad like me, like, I can go out and throw the football in the backyard. I can't run like I used to, but I can go out and throw the ball to my kids, you know, So I think that's one of the, like that, that. That's one of those things where it's like, yes, he can still throw the ball. He's been coaching high school football, so he's been around it, coaching his son down there in Alabama. And, you know, he has been working out and training NFL and college quarterbacks over the last few years. So he stayed connected, he stayed working. He's still throwing. That's not the question. The question is can he still move around enough to protect himself? Has he been doing the work to keep himself in the shape to do, the shape he needs to be in to do that? You know, and then I think the big question is how. How are you going to take a hit? You know, that's the thing is, like, I don't think anybody can project. You know what it's. What, what's going to happen if he were out there on Sunday and, you know, Byron Murphy, the three technique from Seattle, gets through the line and buries him, like, is he going to be able to get up from that? You know, I think that's probably the biggest question. And you know, I think the timing of it is a question too. You mentioned the five year layoff. You remember Drew Henson, right?

Dan Patrick (10:21)

Yep.

Albert Breer (10:21)

Back in the day. So for those who don't know, if Drew Henson, you know, had come out of Michigan, you know, in 2022 and had kept playing football at Michigan, if he had come out in 2022, he might have been a contender to be the first overall pick. Instead, he takes the money and goes and plays for the Yankees. That doesn't work out. He tried to come back to football a few years later. Well, you know, I remember talking to some Cowboys people. I covered the Cowboys on the beat a few years after that and I remember having just casual conversation with people about Drew Henson and why he didn't make it because physically it's very talented. He's a really good quarterback at Michigan, the successor to Tom Brady there. And you know, what the Cowboys people said to me was, you don't understand when you're away from it, how quickly the timing goes away and how hard it is to replicate that. And all the things that go along with being able to stand in the pocket with your eyes downfield with, you know, 250, 300 pound guys who are elite athletes coming at you at full speed, like there's no way to replicate that. So if you're out of it for a few years, it's hard to get it back. And their thing was that's what happened to Drew Henson. Right. Wouldn't that apply here too? I mean, I know Rivers obviously has a ton more experience, but if you've been out of it, I would think the timing of it would be an issue too. So there's a ton of reason to ask questions about it, you know, and I like, I think, you know, if, if nothing else like this at shows, the Colts locker room, that the Steichen and Ballard are doing everything they possibly can to create some modicum of hope, you know, whether or not it can actually work. I think, you know, I don't know that anybody has the answer to that question because this feels pretty unprecedented.

Dan Patrick (11:59)

You know, why is the trade deadline where it is during the season?

Albert Breer (12:06)

Well, I mean, the main reason is so you don't see teams dumping players late. That's the main thing is, you know, you what, what the NFL wanted wants to avoid is a situation where you have, you know, some three win team or two one team and the general managers are buddies or whatever and you see competitive balance getting thrown off because this player, that player is getting moved to another team. At the end of the year now, that team that's already non competitive becomes even less competitive. I think it has more to do with that in that, like, your team is your team.

Albert Breer (12:40)

They have done work to move it back. I mean, you know this DP as well as anybody. Like the last few years they have, you know, been in those situations where it's like, okay, like we're going to move it back another week. And I've actually seen some of the data on this, which is interesting that the percentage of the season that's done when they have a trade deadline is lower in football than it is in baseball or basketball. And the case for moving it back even further than it is now is to kind of get it up to that standard that you see in other sports. But the main reason why is like, the NFL wants to avoid a situation where, you know, you have teams end of November, beginning of December, dumping all these players can affect attendance at games, can affect the, the, the competitiveness of certain matchups. That's really the reason why talking.

Dan Patrick (13:26)

Albert Brear, the Monday morning quarterback, senior NFL reporter, you have this proliferation of long field goals in the NFL and we're about aesthetics. Yep. And I don't know if the competition committee has ever addressed. Can you raise the crossbar? Like, is there something that they've gotten too good at this?

Reggie Miller (13:46)

Yep.

Dan Patrick (13:47)

Like, just like the extra point that would maybe change the philosophy of all these longer field goals here.

Albert Breer (13:58)

Yeah, I think there are a, there are things you could do. You could raise the crossbar, you could narrow the uprights. You know, I, I think you got to look at the reasoning why this is happening too. Like, I had a really good conversation with Nick Folk about this, you know, a couple weeks ago, and you know, he's obviously been doing it for a long, long time. I believe this is his 19th year in the NFL. And so I asked him, I said, like, what do you think it is? He said, the cable is definitely a factor. Now, again, for those who don't know, explain the cable.

Dan Patrick (14:26)

Explain. Explain the cable. Right.

Albert Breer (14:29)

So, like, I guess we can relate this to deflate gate. Like, quarterbacks have always been given the opportunity to prepare balls. Right. To so they can have each game ball just as they like it for game day. So the, the quarterbacks have always had that opportunity to do that. They don't, they didn't allow kickers to do that until this year. So now kickers have the same opportunity to prepare the cables, which are the balls that are there for the kickers. The kickers and punters can prepare the balls the same way the quarterbacks do for game day. So I think most kickers would tell you that's a factor. I don't know exactly what they're doing. Whether I actually asked him, I said, is there something everyone's doing to the ball? He's like, I don't know. I just haven't talked to enough people to know. But I'm sure that everybody's done research onto it and looked into it and is doing something that's helping them. So that's number one. The second thing that folks said to me was more interesting though, he said, because it's become so competitive for college scholarships, then obviously, you know, spots in the NFL, you know, you, what you're seeing is better athletes, the position now. And so you've got a guy who you know is a really good high school player, who's maybe a really good high school receiver or a really good high school corner or a really good high school linebacker, and maybe he could play Division 2 or 3 college football. But if he learns how to kick, he can kick at Alabama or he can kick at Oregon or he can kick at Ohio State. And so now you have these guys who are like really good athletes in their own right who are probably, you know, college football players at a baseline and now they're learning how to kick. And so you have these guys who are more explosive, who have better legs learning how to do it. You add on to that some of the personal training they're getting and better athletes are making it at that position. He had mentioned actually Tyler Loop, who's the Ravens kicker, who was from the University of Arizona, which is folks alma mater. You said he worked out with them and he was like, I couldn't believe, like when I talked to the strength coaches at Arizona, what sort of athlete he was, he said he was like a 21 or 22 mile an hour guy on the GPS, which is insane. You know what I mean? Like, that's not that far off from what like the field players, you know, run. So I think it's a number of factors and you know, I don't know exactly how you address it, but I do think that that's the one part that you, that, that you really won't change. You know, you could go back to the old rules and the cables and everything else, but I mean, the fact that there are better athletes that are more specialized doing it I think is a factor as well.

Dan Patrick (17:05)

How many head coaching vacancies do you think we're going to have.

Albert Breer (17:08)

I mean, I think the normal number, probably seven or eight.

Dan Patrick (17:12)

You know, you factor total with like what happened with the Giant.

Albert Breer (17:16)

Yeah, I mean, you have the Giants and the Titans now. You know, I think there are, are definitely some like that have come up that maybe we didn't expect two months ago. Atlanta, Arizona would probably be in that bucket that are at least going to be, you know, under some level of evaluation. What does Cleveland do, you know, and then you have like your curveball, you know, like that would be like if Pittsburgh and I don't think this would be a firing, but if Pittsburgh and Mike Tomlin have a mutual parting. So I think we'll, we'll get to that number to seven or eight. And you know, the interesting thing about it is I think a lot of teams are going to evaluate this, Dan, and say, is what's behind door number two worth getting rid of what we know is already behind just like Penn State? Right. I mean, I think that's, that's going to be it for a lot of these teams. Because I would make this argument. Right. I think if you was today December 9th. Right. So if you asked me on December 9th, 2024, I would have told you Ben Johnson and Mike Vrabel are going to be head coaches next year. I don't know where, I can't tell you exactly where, but those two guys are going to coaches next year. I'd even maybe have given you Aaron Glenn at that time. I'm like, I'm pretty sure he's getting one, right? Who is that this year?

Dan Patrick (18:31)

I don't know if there's a hot guy and that's it.

Albert Breer (18:34)

You know what I mean? Like, I, I like you have some interesting names. Like Jesse Minter has done a great job with the Chargers defense. I think Mike McDonald, because they're similar background, helps him a lot. Mike McDonald's had great success in Seattle. Of course, you know, Chris Shula, who's, you know, got the bloodlines, of course, is in the Rams program. Like, he's another one like the hot offensive guy. I mean, who is it now? I mean, Joe Brady's had like a little bit of an up and down year in Buffalo. He's interviewed really well. So I think if the Bills finish strong, maybe he becomes the guy, you know, and then you've got a couple of the second chance guys, you know, Mike McCarthy I think will be in the mix, but I don't know, like that you would look at it right now and say, yes, like this guy will be a head coach next year. And you had at least a couple of those guys last year. And I think in most years you have at least a couple guys where you can say, yeah, like that guy's going to be a head coach this year. And so if you're a team that's like considering a change or you're on the fence, maybe that gets your, your guy a stay of execution. I even argue with Miami, right, like, where Mike McDaniel has now, you know, like resurrected, you know, like perception. I, I, it was interesting because I was having these conversations with some people with the Dolphins. And you know what, what one person told me is like, that Steve Ross was hearing the Buzz that Mike McDaniel will be a great second chance head coach. And it caused Ross to say, well, wait a second, then why, why would we get rid of him? You know what I mean? Like, like if he's going to be such a good see if it's going to be such a good hire for somebody the second time around, why aren't we trying harder to see if we can make the first time around work? So if you're them now and you're the Dolphins, you're looking at it. You're saying, okay, we fired the general manager. Now Mike McDaniel has this team at 6 and 7 and going into Pittsburgh on Monday night with a chance to get to 500. We're not eliminated from the playoffs. We haven't lost since we, we fired the GM on, on, on Halloween. I wouldn't you think twice about that. So I think that's part of the equation for a lot of these teams.

Dan Patrick (20:36)

Thanks again, Bert. Good to have you on.

Albert Breer (20:39)

You got it. You can call me whatever you want.

Dan Patrick (20:40)

Albert Brear, the Monday morning quarterback, senior NFL reporter. Yeah, I stumbled onto the Patriots pregame show and our good buddy Tom Curran, Michael Holly, they're like, let's go out to Burt. I go, who is Bert? And all of a sudden it's Albert Breer there on the sidelines. Take a break, Reggie Miller. Up next, be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Fox Sports Radio is taking over YouTube and you can be a part of it. Pay attention. Just go to YouTube and search Fox Sports Radio. Hit that subscribe button and smash that notification bell and catch all the videos from your favorite shows. Two pros and a cup of Joe. Dan Patrick, Colin Cowherd, Doug Gottlieb, Covino and Rich the odd couple with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington, the Jason Smith show with Mike Harmon and the Ben Mahler Show, Fox sports radio on YouTube. Subscribe hit that thumbs up icon and comment away.

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Reggie Miller (25:34)

I think yes, because now everyone, it's going to be on the tip of people's tongue. Can they eclipse that Golden State record of winning 73, 74 games and at the end of it winning a championship. People need to remember the warriors have that best record but they lost in the final. So I think people still view the Bulls because of that 72 and 10 record ended up winning the championship. I think everyone's thinking when is OKC going to lose again? That would probably be the number one story and to me the number two story. We didn't think Luka and the Lakers would be this good.

Reggie Miller (26:22)

No one thought LeBron would be the third wheel on this team, which he is. And that's a heck of a third wheel to have. Austin Reaves is playing like an all star in a contract year. I didn't have the Lakers being this good. The question going forward, can they sustain it in health will be a big issue in my opinion for the Lakers.

Dan Patrick (26:46)

Let's go back to when Luca was in Dallas and I know that we corresponded and you had said Luca was Out of shape. I don't know the exact language, but then I know after the game, you. You started to wonder, did you take a step too far? You know, did you. Were you overly critical? And I wonder, looking back on that, what kind of role do you think that played at all with Luca, the Mavericks, and maybe where he is right now with the Lakers?

Reggie Miller (27:16)

I think the comments Kevin and I made.

Reggie Miller (27:21)

Not necessarily about his weight, but being in shape to play at an NBA level. And if you listen to Lucas comments the day after, he echoed what we said, like, yeah, I'm not in the best of shape. I could be in better shape. So he. He kind of piggybacked what we said, and he knew, I mean, because whenever I say things, it comes from a place of truth and love. I'm not going to sugarcoat anything. And I would always want someone to tell me the truth as well. When I was a player, I respect that more. So I think he respected kind of what we were saying. And you fast forward to now. JJ Redick basically said the same thing in their postseason meetings. You got to get in better shape. Well, what does he do? He goes back to Slovenia. He gets in the best shape, plays unbelievable. The leading scorer in Eurobasket carries that over into this year, and he's leading the league in score. But more importantly, it just looks better for him. He's moving better. There's more fluidity to his game. Not to say that he. He couldn't have done that.

Reggie Miller (28:27)

Playing the way he played in Dallas. But I think long, big and long pitcher for Luca and the Lakers, if he stays in this shape, I. I just think the numbers are going to go through the roof because there's longevity, they're staying power. When he plays at this weight and he looks this good. Theodore.

Dan Patrick (28:49)

And there's a lot of revisionist history, too, with Austin Reaves, because I. I didn't see this. No, I don't. I don't know who did, but I remember talking to two college basketball analysts, and I said, do you remember Austin Reeves with this potential? And they're like, well, you know, you could see if he was gonna go, really, I.

Reggie Miller (29:10)

To me, no one saw this look. No one saw this coming. And again, I. I always tell people this. You're a product of your environment.

Reggie Miller (29:20)

He went undrafted, and he. He wanted to sign with the Lakers. He saw a fit in a place where he thought he could build a niche. He took a gamble on himself. Dan. And, knock on wood, health provided. I think it's going to pay off because the Lakers or someone is going to have to pay him because he is a legitimate number one on a bad team if he goes somewhere else. So he could be a number one on a bad team or if he stays with the Lakers, be an unbelievable Robin to Batman. Because he has certainly taken that role from LeBron and I think they respect that. So right now he's in the catbird seat and he controls his own destiny. As long as he continues to play like this and understand and know his role, which he plays perfectly.

Dan Patrick (30:16)

See it again. $50 million a year.

Reggie Miller (30:20)

I mean, that's what it looks like. I mean.

Reggie Miller (30:25)

I'm not going to. You can't fault that he has put in the work. Think about how he's come along when he was first thrust into it with just LeBron and LeBron was giving him. I remember a clip when LeBron was explaining something to him and he looked like a deer in headlights. When LeBron was explaining a rotation on the floor and he was like looking like, like, what do I do? I rotate. And you fast forward to now. He is one of the biggest voices on this lakers team. So 50 million is coming his way, either from the Lakers or from someone else. The matter will be. Will it be for five years or four years? He's getting it somewhere.

Dan Patrick (31:06)

Yeah. And I don't begrudge you making the money. It's. You go from undrafted to. You're kind of there. And then you would see like little bits and pieces where you go, all right, you can get a shot. All right, you can get to the hole. All right, he's a great. And then all of a sudden LeBron goes out and then all of a sudden Austin Reaves or Lucas out. And then Austin Reaves is like, do I need to get 40? Like that doesn't. You know, that's. That's hard to compute. Where you go, I can go out and get 40, you know, a couple of times here, or I can be a 25 point scorer. I guess it was just the surprising element of. And somebody told me who works with the Lakers. We saw him in practice and you know, playing in practice, sometimes you'll see somebody and you'll go look, man, great practice player. But yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Reggie Miller (31:59)

And it translates to games. And this is why I tell you, kids in high school and college players alike, rankings really don't mean anything. They don't. It's what's in your heart and it's how you developed. I was a late bloomer and I came on late. I was late to be recruited. By ucla. I was slow to develop at ucla. They brought me along slow, which was great because they allowed me to grow into my game. And I think Austin Rivers is like that as well. So don't worry about rankings, don't worry about what other people say. As long as you put the grind in and the hard work, the fruits of your labor will come out. Finding the right fit. Would he be this successful if he was in Minnesota? If he was in Charlotte? We don't know. Sometimes it's the right fit. And let's give Rob Pelinka and that staff a lot of credit for taking a gamble. Sometimes you got to take a gamble, a risky gamble, and it, it pays off and it works out.

Dan Patrick (33:05)

Talking to Reggie Miller, the Hall of Famer. When do the Bucks decide what they're going to do with Giannis?

Reggie Miller (33:13)

To me, it's got to be sooner than later. And if you're Doc Rivers, and I know he said all the right things, that Giannis has not come out and says he wants to be traded. But you, you just have to figure.

Reggie Miller (33:28)

Are we wasting this young man's prime years here?

Reggie Miller (33:35)

They've tried to do everything to surround them with talent. Now he's got to stay on, on the court. Now, I know he's had some nagging, nagging injuries this last, this, this year, as well as towards the end of last year. To me, I, I, he doesn't want to be the a hole. He doesn't want to come out and be demonstrative and say, I want to be traded. But to me, he, he has earned the right. He brought them a championship.

Dan Patrick (34:04)

But he's got to be careful that he doesn't say, I want to go to the Knicks. He's got to be, I'm open to being traded.

Reggie Miller (34:11)

Everything has to be behind closed doors with him, and I'm sure he's, he's voiced that, but he just can't publicly come out and say, I want to go to the Knicks, which everyone, that's our job. But everyone's formulating the numbers. Will it be Miami? Will it be New York? Could it be L. A? Who do you, is Reeves in this deal? I mean, there's, there's so many ways that people are crunching the numbers. It just from a basketball standpoint, then you, you know, this, him in New York just makes sense, doesn't it? Him paired.

Dan Patrick (34:48)

Okay, but who does. You got to look at both sides of the deal. People only look at one side and they go, man, Giannis with the Knicks. Okay, who are the Bucks going to get and you go, you know what? We did the best we could. We have Carl Anthony Towns and we have Mikel Bridges and we have what is that enough?

Reggie Miller (35:08)

And probably a protected pick. I mean if you're, if you're Milwaukee and I can get Karl Anthony Towns who's an all star, one of the premier shooting big men our game has ever seen and Mikhail Bridges who hasn't missed a game since his seventh grade AAU team. So you know he's reliable and will play. You're getting two guys that have been. I know you'll never get fair value, you're never going to get equal trade.

Dan Patrick (35:38)

Value for Giannis but you don't want draft picks. You would you want.

Reggie Miller (35:41)

Yeah, I need a couple draft picks as well. I need those two guys and I need two first round picks. Let's shake hands and call it a day.

Dan Patrick (35:52)

You mentioned this a couple of weeks ago and I have a friend who works in the NBA and he goes, what's Reggie smoking? When you said con canipple and his three point shooting and I said, I think Reggie firmly believes con can apple. He's going to set the all time rookie record for three pointers made.

Reggie Miller (36:12)

That's a good. Yeah, that's a given.

Dan Patrick (36:13)

The question will be.

Reggie Miller (36:14)

Here's the thing. When people say, you know, what am I smoking? The question will be for Khan, will he be a go to guy? Like how Steph was a go to guy from years five through now because his first three or four years he was in, he was injury riddled.

Dan Patrick (36:34)

Yeah, so.

Reggie Miller (36:35)

So Khan will have those numbers on staff the first three years. The question going forward for Khan will be in year four and five. Where's his development and where is he in the pecking order? If he is. Even if he's still in Charlotte, who even knows if he'll be there? That's. Will he have the longevity? Because Steph has always had the longevity after year four and he was the go to guy. Will Khan be a go to guy and will he always get these, get the opportunities that Steph has gotten? Who knows. But if you're going to go by the first two or three years, Khan will have the numbers on staff.

Dan Patrick (37:18)

Do you know who has the rookie record for most three pointers? Mate.

Dan Patrick (37:23)

Paulie said, I would be shocked. Now is this a recent guy, Paulie? Yeah, he's still pretty young. He plays in a town that doesn't get a ton of coverage on the NBA calendar.

Dan Patrick (37:35)

Trey Young, Keegan Murray, 206threes with your Kings. Dan.

Reggie Miller (37:42)

Wow.

Dan Patrick (37:43)

Your guy Con Knipple right now.

Reggie Miller (37:46)

What is that number, by the way?

Dan Patrick (37:47)

236. 206 for Keegan Murray. Con Knippel right now is on pace for 263 threes. He blow away the record. Yeah.

Reggie Miller (37:58)

Dang.

Dan Patrick (37:59)

But he plays in Charlotte.

Reggie Miller (38:01)

That's the problem. And will he stay in Charlotte his whole career or will someone come a calling? Right. So does he stay healthy and will he ever be a go to guy like Stephen Curry? He's not even a go to guy on Charlotte right now. The reason why he's getting all these threes is Lamelo's been in and out of the lineups. Brandon Miller's been in and out of the lineups. So the opportunity is there. I would. I'm curious to see once everyone is healthy, does he still get these looks, which I hope he does because he's a flat out shooter.

Reggie Miller (38:36)

But again, view him on his first three years versus Steph's first three years. He'll have the numbers. The question will be for going forward. Will be year four on.

Dan Patrick (38:50)

Can the Hornets be a playoff team if Lamelo Ball is your best player?

Reggie Miller (38:57)

No.

Dan Patrick (39:02)

No, nothing to happen there.

Reggie Miller (39:05)

I mean I love Lamelo. No, I love Lamelo, but Lamelo has to stay healthy and to me he just has to.

Dan Patrick (39:14)

He's just like curiosity. He's a curiosity. He's just a. He's a guy out there having fun. But I. I don't think I would.

Reggie Miller (39:22)

Love to see him on a really, really good team where every possession matters.

Dan Patrick (39:28)

Paulie. What? What do you have Reggie Miller's total threes as a rookie. By the way, Reggie came off the bench as a rookie, so he played 82 games. Started one, he was 61 for 172 as a rookie.

Reggie Miller (39:40)

61 threes and I broke Larry Bird's record. Yes, record. That was breaking Larry Bird's record. I think Larry bird had like 57, right, Paulie?

Dan Patrick (39:49)

That's right.

Reggie Miller (39:50)

I broke it with 61.

Dan Patrick (39:51)

Wow.

Reggie Miller (39:52)

And what is Con at right now?

Dan Patrick (39:54)

Currently he's at 81.

Reggie Miller (39:56)

Come on, man. And we're not even. We're only a quarter up to the season.

Dan Patrick (40:01)

I know he's gonna. And great.

Reggie Miller (40:04)

All you haters out there, do your homework.

Dan Patrick (40:07)

Do your homework.

Dan Patrick (40:10)

What did Reggie average assist wise? I think he had three assists that season.

Albert Breer (40:15)

Now you have 130. 132 assistants.

Dan Patrick (40:17)

No. You could pass if you wanted to.

Reggie Miller (40:21)

No. Right. Thank you, Theodore. If I wanted.

Dan Patrick (40:24)

If my job description for the Pacers.

Reggie Miller (40:29)

Leader put the Ball in the basket, five minutes left in the game. Close the game. That's what it said on my bio.

Dan Patrick (40:39)

Oh, dude. Okay.

Reggie Miller (40:40)

That was my job description when they hired me.

Dan Patrick (40:44)

I love that Reggie would pass it, but he wanted it back after he passed.

Dan Patrick (40:49)

It. I pass it, I'll pass it back, bring it back. What's his career high? Assist in a game, In a game, in a season.

Reggie Miller (40:59)

Triple double. One triple double. That was it.

Dan Patrick (41:02)

Okay. I got 11 assists in a game for Reggie. His best season, he averaged four assists a game. Year five. Wow.

Reggie Miller (41:13)

Why are you looking at me like that, Theodore?

Dan Patrick (41:15)

I don't know.

Reggie Miller (41:16)

The game has changed.

Dan Patrick (41:17)

Today.

Dan Patrick (41:19)

We have point guard that distributed the ball.

Reggie Miller (41:22)

We had shooting guards that shot the ball. We had small forwards who were like wing players who defended.

Dan Patrick (41:30)

How many. How many assisted Bird? How many assisted Bird average when he was playing because he had a point guard. He ended up getting, you know, seven, eight assist. That's different.

Dan Patrick (41:44)

Larry Bird's best season, he averaged seven and a half assists a game. Okay, all right. I'm just saying. He was a shooter and a rebounder, but also passing. You were coming up with excuses there.

Reggie Miller (41:54)

No, no, not excuses. Just knowing my role. That's the key for 18 years plus is knowing your role.

Dan Patrick (42:01)

Were you ever a first or second or third team all defense?

Reggie Miller (42:05)

No.

Albert Breer (42:08)

No.

Reggie Miller (42:09)

Now, what they should have had a category for was I could have been first, second, third team, all team defense. Oh, I was a great team defender.

Dan Patrick (42:21)

You were a helper.

Reggie Miller (42:22)

Yeah, great help defender. So when someone got beat, slide over and then let Dale and Rick and.

Dan Patrick (42:31)

Wait a minute, wait a minute. But you, you were guarding shooting guards. You're the one that needed team help.

Reggie Miller (42:40)

I forced them into the hell.

Dan Patrick (42:42)

Oh, that's good.

Reggie Miller (42:44)

That's help defense. You forced them to your big.

Reggie Miller (42:49)

Help.

Dan Patrick (42:50)

Help.

Reggie Miller (42:51)

Help.

Dan Patrick (42:52)

Somebody pick up Kobe. Somebody get Kobe. Help.

Reggie Miller (42:55)

Help.

Dan Patrick (42:58)

Thank you, Reg. Good to talk to you.

Reggie Miller (42:59)

Appreciate you, Theodore. Thank you, Daniel. Paulie, great job on those stats, buddy.

Dan Patrick (43:04)

That's what you do. You get an assist there, Paulie. That's what you get. All right, we'll take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learned, what's in store tomorrow after this, Fox sports radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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Reggie Miller (47:36)

A 510, a structure 185.

Dan Patrick (47:42)

Hey, ADP, listen, this. This Notre Dame foolishness, right? They have more responsibility in this whole mess than the selection committee. Now, did the selection committee screw it up by having Miami ranked ahead of them all season? Yes, but let's go back. Notre Dame, you wanted to be independent, you got it.

Reggie Miller (48:02)

You wanted to have a part time.

Dan Patrick (48:04)

Relationship with the acc, you got it.

Reggie Miller (48:07)

You wanted to make your own schedule, you got it.

Dan Patrick (48:10)

You decided to lose to Miami. You decided to lose to Texas A. M. What's the ACC supposed to do if Notre Dame goes to a bowl? How much of that money does the ACC see? Yeah, look, you make valid points here. I'm not defending Notre Dame. It's about the rankings, that's all. Notre Dame lost to Miami, lost to Texas A and M. But why the switch in the rankings? That's all. That's all I've said. And we had all of the information. We knew they lost to Miami. We knew they lost to A and M. We knew everything about Notre Dame. They were done playing. Nothing changed. Miami wasn't in the ACC title gang. Nothing changed. Something happened in the room, that's all.

Dan Patrick (49:03)

I. I go back and I. I'm gonna put the onus on you. If this was reversed, the outcry would be leading every show. Oh, my God. Notre Dame got in over Miami. Oh, okay. The brand, if. I mean, come on, just be you. There's a difference between I'm going to be fair to the situation or I hate Notre Dame. And there's more people that don't like Notre Dame because Notre Dame is playing by their own rules. Yes. The fact that the College Football Playoff committee let Notre Dame somehow come up with a document that said if we're in the top, top 12 next year, we're automatically in the playoffs.

Dan Patrick (49:49)

So.

Dan Patrick (49:52)

Explain that.

Dan Patrick (49:55)

Yeah, Paulie, I don't know if there's a team in America, pro or college, that's more polarizing. No one's casual about Notre Dame. You either are a fan and have been for life or you really, really don't like them. And that's with the coverage the past two days. Yeah, I'm trying to be as neutral, you know, nonpartisan, unbiased as possible. But hey, because I had him on and I gave him the. The opportunity, then all of a sudden I'm a mouthpiece or I let him just talk. You know, if the Miami AD and they didn't get in, I would have invited the Miami AD on.

Dan Patrick (50:32)

Okay, so.

Dan Patrick (50:35)

This is, this is more than Notre Dame, but people just want to make it Notre Dame. That's where, you know, your arguments are faulty. This day in sports history, Paul Eric Dickerson of the rams became the second.

Rob Gronkowski (50:48)

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Dan Patrick (50:49)

2,000 yards in a season that was 1984. And then, Dan, one of my favorites, if you permit me. Walter Payton of the Chicago Bears ran six plays at quarterback. And I don't have the stats here, but what's his QBR? I think he was 6 for 6 with six touchdowns, but I have to double check. Probably so. Probably so. Also 2013, the Bears retired Mike Ditka's number 89 jersey. Wait a while. Yeah, yeah, I still have a mirror. It's a cigar mirror from his bar. It's out in the hallway as you lead right down the hallway towards Mario. Not for long. Yeah, but I saw it. It was in the bathroom and I said, coach, I'd love to have this. He goes, take it off the wall. So I had somebody help me take it off the wall. What did I learn today, Todd, on this award nominated program, Albert Breeze says not to make light of it, but the cult situation has become a perfect storm of quarterback crap. Our pleasure to serve. You had fun. Thanks for joining us. Fritzy Seaton, Marv Paulie, yours truly and the BRGs. We'll talk to you tomorrow.

Reggie Miller (51:50)

What a matchup we got, y'.

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Reggie Miller (52:12)

Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere and in ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo. No matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

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