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Dan Patrick
You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Hope you had a great weekend. Everybody gangs all here on this Monday. Best and worst of the weekend. More of your phone calls coming up. We'll check in with the Monday morning quarterback Albert Breer. He's been busy. The Giants are keeping their coaching staff. The Jags are not. They fired Doug Peterson. The Patriots fired Gerard Mayo. Still don't know what's going to happen with the Raiders. Could be a coaching change there as well. We'll talk to Albert. He'll join us coming up. We'll check in with the Patriots as well. What are they doing? You don't fire Gerard Mayo unless you know you're getting your guy. And that guy, it appears, is Mike Vrabel. 8773 DP show email address DP danpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP Show Good morning. You're watching on Peacock. Thank you for downloading the app and our radio affiliates around the country. IHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio and those chatting on chat Chat room Seaton can you refresh the poll questions from hours one and two and we move into the final hour on this Monday?
Seaton
Heck yeah, sure. Can Dan okay, let's see right now we've got up there. The Raiders should either a trade up for Shador Sanders or B keep the pick and sign Aaron Rodgers and bring back devonte Adams, which I don't think is going to happen. I don't know that the Raiders are really in the devonte Adams market.
Dan Patrick
I would not be.
Seaton
I feel like you could still smell those bridges burning. I don't think he left on friendly terms there anyway. But people think that they should. About 57% think they should trade up for Shadra Sanders. More surprising, Broncos in the playoffs or Bengals not in the playoffs. People are more surprised by the Bengals. And who would you rather have in the playoffs? People would rather have the Bengals and not the Broncos.
Dan Patrick
Of course you would. Of course you would.
Todd Fritz
But unfortunately, that's not the case. The Broncos will be playing the Bills.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Todd Fritz
Little late to be firing a defensive coordinator. He needed to win a few games earlier in the season.
Dan Patrick
Thank you, Todd.
Todd Fritz
Your bro throws for like a thousand yards. They still lose. Come on, get it together, Cincy.
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Dan Patrick
No, they. He threw for almost 5,000 yards.
Todd Fritz
I'm saying. No, I'm saying, like in a game. I was just kind of exaggerating. The guy throws like 500 yards a game, and they still find a way.
Dan Patrick
That's not his fault.
Todd Fritz
It's the defense.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, it is. They had an easy schedule. You start out 0 and 3. You lose a home game to the Patriots. Your defense was terrible. I think they had six games where they gave up over 30 point. I mean, there's only so much that offense can do. And the offense was pretty explosive. Dynamic led by Burrow and Jamar Chase. All right, so the Broncos are in, Bengals, Dolphins out. The Tyreek Hill situation, it borders on being a mess. He says he's out, and then he apparently took himself out of the lineup late in that game with the Dolphins and the Jets. The Buccaneers are in, the Falcons are out. And the Lions get the number one seed in the NFC. The Vikings with 14 wins. Their reward is they get to go to Los Angeles and face the Rams. All right, so we'll check in with the Patriots. Let's bring in Albert Brer, the Monday morning quarterback who joins us on the program. Well, let me start with the Patriots. You've been close to this situation. Why are they moving on from their coach who was a coach in waiting for a good five years?
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Yeah, you know, I think, you know, really kind of relates back to the end of the Belichick era, the state the roster was in, the climate in the building when they fired Bill and, you know, like, how, you know, there were factions and, you know, the fact that they put that clause in his contract, the succession plan in his contract, I don't think made anything better. So, like, it forced the Patriots to go to Gerard Mayo probably a good two, three years before he was ready, certainly before they intended to. And I think the, where the building was in 2022 and 2023 made it so Belichick wasn't going to help mentor Mayo and help him fill in the gaps that that would be create lack of experience. And so, you know, I, I still think the crafts really like Gerard Mayo. Not sure what Mayo thinks of the crafts anymore, but I do, I, I, I do think they still really like him and think that he'd have a bright future in coaching. But it just like based on the way they're set up and they're set up for a, a coach to have a very strong voice in so many different areas because the way it was set up under Bill for so long, they weren't able to support him with the roster, they weren't able to support him with the infrastructure. And I think that led to a disorganized mess over the last couple of months which led them down the road where, you know, there were a couple of games there at the end where you just could not see the light at the end of the tunnel. I think the loss to Arizona a couple weeks ago is one. And then obviously that Saturday loss and a standalone game to the Chargers might have been the flashpoint because clearly going into the game yesterday, they knew what they were doing or else they wouldn't have had a statement, you know, ready to go less than an hour and a half after, after the Bills game ended.
Dan Patrick
But you're also not going to make this move unless you know who your coach in waiting is. I, I would assume.
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No, I see. I think they'd be, I think they'd be making a mistake if they, if they approached it that way. And here's why I say that, Dan. Like, I think last year they really cost themselves the chance to take a look at the way the rest of football works. And they hadn't had the chance to do that in so long because they haven't conducted a coaching search in so long, you know, and so, you know, really, if you look at it for over 25 years is all these other teams that were stumbling all over themselves got a chance to interview people left and right and see the way the best organizations in football were doing it. The Patriots were really insular. They didn't really bring in a lot of people from the outside and they didn't have the opportunity to see inside other organizations through an interview process. And then last year, I mean, they rushed Rod Mayo into that role and same the same thing with Elliot Wolf after the draft into the EVP of player personnel role. And, you know, I think they really cost themselves a chance to look across the league. And you say like, okay, like maybe you do know who it's going to be and you don't want to go through a shame of a process. Well, you can't tell me the Chargers didn't know in November or December that they were going to target Jim Harbaugh. Yet they still looked at, what was it, 12, 15 head coaching candidates, 10 general manager candidates. So they went through a full process and got to learn a lot of stuff about things, worked with other team, the way things worked with other teams teams and Jim Harbaugh and Joe Ortiz who are running the team now benefit from the team having gone through that. So I do think they're going to run a full process. Frable is obviously a name that's going to be at or near the top of their list to begin with, but I would think that the crafts are going to let the process take. Take them where. Where. Where it goes, you know. And you know, we've been down this road before. I mean, Pittsburgh's a Great example from 2007 when they move off the Bill Cower era era. You know, Cower retires. And I think everybody, every thought at that point it was either going to be Ken Wizen Hunt or Russ Graham, who had a ton of background with the organization. But they go through a full process, they commit to it, and they wind up falling in love with Mike Tomlin. I wouldn't rule out something like that happening here, although I think clearly variable is the. The leader in the clubhouse. And, you know, I think that it would behoove them even if it does wind up being very able to go through that full process.
Dan Patrick
All right, you got the Raiders situation.
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Dan Patrick
And you got the Cowboys situation. Do you see changes in either of those locations?
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I think the Raiders are still up in the air. There's been a lot of momentum going in the wrong direction over the last couple of months, you know, and where they are and what sort of voice is Tom Brady going to have in this, you know, the opportunity maybe to get somebody like Frable because of Brady, you know, I think would entice ownership. There's. And, you know, I think that they, they. They've had to look at the last couple of years and the way things are gone and now some of the changes in ownership is their influence on. On Mark Davis to do one thing or another. Yeah, I think we'll Find out over the next three or four hours what will happen there. The Cowboys are fascinating because we all went through it, you know, five years ago, and the way they dragged their feet on Jason Garrett, it was. That was so weird. You remember that. Damn. Like the way all that worked where Garrett was employed, but, like, they're really going to move on. And so Garrett's still working there, but they're interviewing people. The same thing could happen here because, you know, Mike McCarthy's contracts up the same way Garrett's was. He's got relationships in the Saints organization, for example. Right. Like he and Mickey Loomis were together there for, I think it was five years, and Mickey Loomis his first five years with the Saints when McCarthy was there working for Jim Haslett. So there could be opportunity outside that Mike McCarthy wants to take a look at. The Cowboys could take a look on their, you know, as well. And I, I think one thing that complicates the whole thing is, you know, not only do you have to drop a new contract for Mike McCarthy, so it's not like you can just kick the can down the road for another year. That's also the case, I'm told, with their entire coaching staff. Everyone is up. So you've got to read. You got to draw up new contracts for the entire coaching staff as well. So that's going to be an interesting one. That's, you know, as. As you might expect from America's team, a little complicated, a little complex. And that's another one. You can hear variables name a lot. But that's another one that I have heard.
Dan Patrick
Variable connected to, tough to handicap Aaron Rodgers. But if you were going to. If I said Aaron Rodgers, next year will be blank.
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I. I don't think he knows. I don't think the jets can tell you what their plan is until there's a head coach and general manager in place. You know, would there be a market.
Dan Patrick
For Rogers outside of the Jets?
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Yeah, I think somebody. Somebody would take a look at it. Like I look like. Do I think he is what he was three or four years ago? No. Do I think there's a possibility that you'd be getting a very motivated Aaron Rodgers if the jets wound up dumping him? Yeah, I mean, I, I can remember talking to Aaron about this in July and August. Right. And he said to me, I didn't like. Part of my reasoning for coming back and going through everything that it takes to go through to get to the point where you can play quarterback in The NFL in 2024 was coming off the Achilles, and I didn't want to go out like that. Dan, do you think he wants to go out like this? Like, this is worse than the Achilles, isn't it? Like, if, like, everybody would understand if you're going. If you're 40 years old, you're going out with the Achilles. Like, everybody understand that. Like, this, this. This is, like, going out like this is worse. So, yeah, I don't think he knows what he's gonna do, but I. I don't. I don't really.
Dan Patrick
But what. What would you say, okay, now I can go out. Like, if you're Rogers, I know, hey, we went nine and eight and we didn't make the playoffs, now I can go out.
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Look, there could be. There's the possibility that he goes through the. The. The. The contemplation of, you know, all this, and he. He comes out of it and says, you know what? I just can't put my body through it again. I don't want to go through what it's going to take the next six months to position myself to play football at 41 years old. That's certainly possible. I think it's also possible that, like, he has a Brett Favre hair across his ass the way that Farve did when the packers let him go. And you could see, like a Vikings year for far from. From. From Rogers somewhere else. Like, I don't think that that's impossible, that, you know, like, maybe one last time he wants to come back and put everything into it and say, this is my last year and I'm going to. I'm going to do everything I can to be in position to play, and some team out there looks at it and says, this guy could be a bridge. How would he look in Pittsburgh?
Dan Patrick
I mean, seriously, okay, how would Mike Tomlin deal with that?
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David. But how would he deal with Russell Wilson? He dealt with Russell Wilson, right?
Dan Patrick
Yeah. But I don't think Russ is as much a diva as Aaron Rodgers is.
T-Mobile Advertiser
I don't know. I mean, I think people that have coached the two that. That have coached those two might disagree.
Dan Patrick
Russ got humble. Russ truly got humiliated in Denver.
T-Mobile Advertiser
Right. And I. And I think to some degree, Rogers has been with the jets, too. Like, I look, here's the way I look at it. I think this. There's going to be an environment out there with quarterbacks. Right. I mean, you go to Cleveland, too. I look at, like, this is like, if you're a team that needs a quarterback right now, and, you know, you're looking at the Draft, are you. Do you love Shador Sanders? Do you love Cam Ward? Like, I feel like this year's class in the draft is closer to the 22 class, the picket class, than it is to the last year.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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So if you're a team that says, like, okay, like, we want to get a young quarterback, but we need something to get us by for one year, wouldn't Rogers appeal to you? Like, just the chance of what it could be with a motivated Rogers is going to come back and show everybody. Like, I. I don't think it's the worst idea in the world. You know what I mean? Like, and, and I will say this for Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh, like, he's shown a remarkable ability to deal with whatever personality comes his way. I mean, we didn't know that Antonio Brown was a problem until, like, the very end in Pittsburgh. Think about that. You know what I mean? Like, we didn't know who he had in that receiver room, you know, like, at the time he had Antonio Brown and Mike Wallace and. And Emmanuel sage, big personalities. Le'Veon Bell at running back. Like, I mean, what he's. What. How he's managed George Pickens over the last few years. I'm not willing him to Pittsburgh, but I'm just telling you, like, I don't think that part of it would be as big a problem for Tomlin as it might be for another coach.
Dan Patrick
All right, final 30 seconds. Brock Purdy's yearly contract will start with the number blank.
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4 or. I. I think. I think they will find a happy medium. And I think. I think, like, Brock is. Brock's a team guy now. I have heard some stuff that his dad's experiences as an athlete might affect the way he approaches this a little bit. The Niners are a really smart organization, and they're going to be turning the page in a lot of different ways, and they're going to have to make some tough decisions on some veteran players like Debo Samuel over the next few months. So I would expect the Niners to take an early swing at getting this done. Remember when they re signed Jimmy Garoppolo? That happened in January. So they were very aggressive with Garoppolo. I don't know if they'll be quite that aggressive with Purdy, but if it's going to get done early, I think it'll get done at something that's a little less than the top of the market.
Dan Patrick
Tyree Kill next year will be back with the Dolphins or.
T-Mobile Advertiser
It doesn't sound like it. Right?
Dan Patrick
It doesn't sound, sounds like he wants to move on Chiefs. Oh, they bring him back.
T-Mobile Advertiser
I mean, I mean, that would be, that, that would be the classic move. Right. The Chiefs have already started, have already done these things that they brought.
Dan Patrick
Oh, yeah, like juju Smith.
T-Mobile Advertiser
Schuster was gone for a while. Kareem Hunt. Right. Like, it's like what the Patriots used to do. You remember, they, they lost. They traded away a Dion Branch and brought him back. Bill loved that, like, was like, all right, we're going to get all these assets for this player, and then three years later, he's going to come back home and play for me again. Wouldn't it totally make sense if Tyree Kill wound up back on the Chiefs next year?
Dan Patrick
Kareem Hunt, they brought him back. Yep.
T-Mobile Advertiser
Yeah. So, I mean, like, they've got the sort of program that can absorb it and God, can you imagine, you know, Tyree Kill and Xavier Worthy running downfield for Homes next year? I know Hill may not be exactly what he was, you know, even last year, but the idea of bringing him back at a little bit of a discount, I think would probably appeal to some people in the Chiefs organization. And I'd imagine for Hill, for Hill himself, it might put a nice capstone on his career.
Dan Patrick
I know you're busy. Thanks for making time.
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Dan Patrick
That's Albert Brear, the Monday morning quarterback. Yeah, we were like, whenever Albert can join us. And then he wasn't able to join us last hour. And then I said, well, he actually has another job. So I said, fritzi, it's okay. He's such a great information person to have him on. When we come back, we'll check in with Tom Kern with the Patriots. I thought what, you know, Albert brought up was interesting there, that you're locked in to Gerard Mayo because of the contract. And maybe they kind of put themselves in a corner there that they had a guy who wasn't ready for this, didn't think he was going to be their head coach. So we'll talk to Tom Kern about that. We're back after this. On the Dan Patrick Show. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.
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Dan Patrick
Before we check in with Tom Curran covers the Patriots. Lou in New Jersey. Hey, Lou, what's on your mind today?
Caller Lou
Hey, Dan. First time, longest time. 58165. Thank you, Dan. This is, this is super surreal and I have a lot to get in and I'm gonna try to keep it short and short and sweet. I have some advice I need from you and I know it's not super sports related, but I've been listening to you. I go, you guys like my best friends. I mean, adopted family for about 20 years. I go back to listening to you on my little radio, getting, taking the bus to my internship at KROC radio in the city. You know, it's, it's just been, it's crazy to even be talking to you. So I'm trying to keep it all together. There's so, I'm sorry, I'll just give you one second. I worked in radio for a long time. I worked at Sirius xm. I tried to model my show, our show after yours, which you can imagine was a little challenging. And I unsummoniously left when McLovin left. I was Gonna send in my demo tape for the Danette show. Because there's maybe five things I don't suck at in life. It was radio. I write about cars. You know, I read for Motor Trend and some other freelance stuff.
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Caller Lou
I've been bartending for my entire. Basically my entire life. Because I can't. I don't have to tell you how radio usually pays, so I just supplement that.
Dan Patrick
Give me your question here, Lou.
Caller Lou
I'm sorry. So there's. There's. Basically when the Dead Dad Club and the Dead Dog Club came around, I kind of cringed. And on Thursday, I very unexpectedly lost my dog. And I feel like I should have done more. And then I found out, same day that my dog went to hospital and passed away, my dad went to the ER and he's not doing so well. He just got forced to retire from the post office after 58 years. And so I just wanted to ask. There's no, there's some universal law that says you can't lose your dog and your dad in the same staying week or month. Right. And then more importantly, just how to deal with the grief of a dog. Because you've been given me advice that I've taken pretty much throughout my entire. I took my dogs to go see my dead dog because you said your, Your voice was in my head when that happened. And I brought them back, and everyone at the hospital was. Was shocked and loved that. That. That was something that I thought of and I gave you credit.
Dan Patrick
Well, we'll just try to be here. You know, I. I think if we're your comfort food and we're here every day for you, then great. But as far as the grieving process goes, certainly with an animal, don't try to replace that animal right away. Grief. The reason why it hurts so much is you love them so much. No. So there's nothing wrong with that. I hope your father feels better, but no, there's no universal law that says you can't lose your dog and your dad in the same week. Somehow I'll make a smooth segue to Tom Curran, NBC Sports, Boston Insider. Hey, Tom, how are you today?
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A little bit like, feel a little bit like Casey Kasem here with that long distance dedication that went bad.
Seaton
A dog named Snuggles.
Dan Patrick
A reporter.
T-Mobile Advertiser
I hope he finds peace with both his dog.
Dan Patrick
You know what? That's gonna, that's gonna fix it right there. Tom, thank you for helping.
T-Mobile Advertiser
You gave neither thoughts nor prayers, which isn't to be expected. Happy New Year, Dan.
Dan Patrick
Hey, Happy New Year.
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You Let me go. I thought it was January 5th.
Dan Patrick
I let you go because I think you're trying to find happiness because of what's going on with the Patriots there.
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Yeah, Jerod Mayo was truly safe until December began and it was such a rapid decline and it was an on all fronts decline. You know, the crafts beginning the season said we expect to struggle. I hope we don't struggle. We expect we're going to struggle. And they ended up with four wins, which I think if you said on the face of it, okay, it's going to be a tough year, you're going to win four games, they wouldn't have blocked. But the nature of these last four games, the embarrassing loss coming off a bite, Arizona followed by a decent representative effort against the Bills, followed by what could have been a 50 to nothing loss to the Chargers, really kind of sealed Gerard's fate. And it was also the messaging around those games where the post game press conferences were sometimes disjointed with. You'd come out of them with more questions than you went in.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
T-Mobile Advertiser
So he was strapped to him. He was strapped to a runaway train I think with this roster in this team. So they made the move.
Dan Patrick
But we just talked to Albert Brer and he brought up something interesting I had not thought of is they put this language in Drod Mayo's contract so he was the coach in waiting. And then maybe they realized that he might be the coach in waiting but he's shouldn't be our coach now maybe that the job was a little too big for him. What do you think of that?
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Yeah, it was hope against hope. And I think that the Patriots have operated. Really. And I've said this people block and they say they won the Super bowl in 2017. They have operated with a lack of urgency for the better part of six seasons and there has been very much a tendency that Bill fostered and oftentimes it worked and then towards the end it didn't. And the crafts have followed suit with, we'll see how it works out. We're going to try this. We'll see how it works out. You know, it happened with, with Brady always moving on. I mean we're pretty smart here. We'll see how it works out. Didn't work out. He wins super bowl. You know, McDaniels leaves. We're going to elevate these two guys. We're pretty smart people. We know a lot about football. Patricia and Judge will be fine. I'm still here. We'll see how it works out. Didn't work out and then the crafts. I think in moving on from Bill a year earlier than they wanted to because he had a two year deal, they wanted to continue. They wanted him to set the record here. But it became so untenable with him. Moved on and I think with Jarrod they saw a terrific leader, a smart guy who needed seasoning. He was put into the position before he got the seasoning and the tenor of the season was we'll see how it works out. So they need to be more urgent. And I really think, Dan, that making a move within an hour of game's end when there was so much uncertainty whether or not a move would even be made shows the urgency I think that they're feeling.
Dan Patrick
Do you make this move if you don't have that coach in waiting? Granted, you have to go through the process here, but do you think that they made that move knowing who they're going to hire?
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I think they made that move knowing who they are going to pursue and feeling safe enough that the interest will be reciprocated that they might be able to move on. You can't just move on and then hire, you know, Bobby Slowik. Not that Bobby Slowik isn't a good candidate, but what ties does Bobby Slowik as an offensive coordinator in Houston have to the New England Patriots? The Patriots, it's very important to them to have somebody who has ties. So the most obvious candidate would be Mike Vrabel. Vrabel has always shown great deference to the crafts in terms of what they built here, what this team's all about and he would be the antidote. It was funny, I heard Rex Ryan talking about why he would be a good candidate for the jets today and in saying so we said you need somebody to understand that fan base and connect with that fan base. Was taught we're not talking about X's and O's but that's exactly what Vrabel would do. In a way, I think that that Bill didn't like Brable, excuse me, Mayo was the antithesis of Bill. In some ways they need somebody to split the difference.
Dan Patrick
Talking to Tom Kern, NBC Sports Boston Insider Knowing what you know of Tom Brady, there was a report that came out Andrew Marchand that Tom's probably going to be one and done, which would not surprise me and maybe get more involved in the Raiders situation. But knowing Brady and how much involvement do you see him with the Raiders and can you see a coaching change here?
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Well, that's a good question. I think Antonio Pierce and Gerard have similar Styles. I am not close enough to know exactly how the ins and outs are working there. I think if they did make a coaching change, what's germane to me in this? Love using the word germane is that it immediately makes me think. When you mentioned Brady, I thought you were going to say, well, they're going to go after Variable and I wonder if that would be the case. In the case of Variable, I would think that Brady would see him as the best candidate out there. I think the Brable is the best candidate out there for a variety of reasons. The main one being experience.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
T-Mobile Advertiser
Gerard failed in large part because he didn't have podium experience and couldn't anticipate what he was going to deal with. Variable is incredibly astute at dealing with that. And being one person at the podium, being one person behind the scenes with the media being a certain way with everyone. So would Brady pursue Vrabel if he could get him? Would a bidding war ensue coast to coast for the services of Brable? I think that would be interesting to see. But I still think Vrabel would be more amenable to New England just because he was here for 10 years and understands this area as opposed to going all the way out to San Francisco and not knowing if Aiden O'Connell is his quarterback or Gardner Minshew, whereas Drake May is such a draw here.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. But I wonder if the crafts are.
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Kind of doing the same thing.
Dan Patrick
Well, they've slowed the progress. Everybody, everybody's a genius. When you got the greatest coach and quarterback of all time, then when you don't, then all of a sudden we're looking for answers here. And I like you have. You have complete trust in the Crafts that they'll figure this out. And all of a sudden you guys restore the dignity here.
T-Mobile Advertiser
No, I don't. And I've said that a number of times. And I spoke to somebody high up in the organization today and I said it very much reminds me of 1997 when they moved on from Parcells. They hired Pete Carroll because he was the antithesis of Parcells. And that team went from the super bowl to out of the playoffs in three years. And then they brought in a major domo type in Bill Belichick and it went beautifully. The Crafts, I think, were out of practice football wise. Bill had taking a hold of everything.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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So this is my stuff. I do this. This is my football team. You guys run the organization. It's your franchise, my football team. And people like to think of the crafts as puppet masters and I just don't think that that's true. They ask questions and they register their disappointment if things don't go well. But I don't think they're making football decisions and they don't want to. They need to get somebody at that friggin level band who's making the football decisions. How do they know if they. Their director of west coast scouting is good or they. Their SEC evaluations are good? They don't. So they need somebody above those personnel, people who can make those decisions, who can look at a wide receivers coach and say, my God, what are you telling these guys? We got three catches from our rookies this year. What are we doing? So they need that? I think so. They're in the wilderness right now. But the notion that they're cheap or don't care about winning, I think is bizarre, given. And that's pretty prevalent around here in New England. I think they care incredibly about winning.
Dan Patrick
Well, I didn't want Gerard Mayo to be fired, but if it meant that I could have you back on the show, then he had to pay the price. There's an upside. Yeah, there's an upside to them. So it's.
T-Mobile Advertiser
I noticed Albert was in performing. Huh.
Dan Patrick
Well, Fritzi, do you want to answer that with Tom Kern?
Todd Fritz
Yeah. There was a change of plans at the last minutes. You know, sometimes someone's available at one time and then it's got to shift to another time. There's really no specific rhyme or reasons when everyone's available. It's not a list of top to bottom, who's most important.
T-Mobile Advertiser
Yeah.
No. Sounds. Sounds kind of like what the Patriots went through. We were going to stick with. Albert was available.
Dan Patrick
You're our Gerard Mayo. Hey. Great to talk to you.
T-Mobile Advertiser
All right, Dan.
Dan Patrick
Thank you. Thank you, buddy. Thank you, buddy. Or I could ask you about Bill Belichick, by the way. Are you. Are you expecting Bill Belichick to be there for. Wait, why are you shaking your head?
T-Mobile Advertiser
I'm not. I don't.
Dan Patrick
Wait.
T-Mobile Advertiser
I don't think he's going to be there very long.
Dan Patrick
Where's he going?
T-Mobile Advertiser
I don't think it's going to go great either. It's not gonna. It's not gonna go the way people think it's gonna go. He's not gonna wave a magic Belichickian wand and have everybody. The portal is a real thing. There's no portal in the NFL. Those guys are gonna get yelled at one time or told. They don't know where they're asked from their elbow and they're gonna be portaling like maniacs. Yeah.
Dan Patrick
But you don't have to, you know, be, you know, stuck with the salary cap or the draft. You know, you can go out.
T-Mobile Advertiser
You do, though.
Dan Patrick
No, there's no draft.
T-Mobile Advertiser
Well, they want $20 million for spending on these players. So you have to figure out how we going to spend money on these players. Who gets allocated the most money and his.
Dan Patrick
That's what Mike Lombardi does for him.
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His eyes are going to be rolling.
Dan Patrick
Like pinballs when he sees, okay, over under one and a half years at North Carolina. Oh, that's a great one.
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I would say I would take the over, but if the odds are good enough, I would. The smart bet would be over, but I could say under. I mean, he's got an out next June. He's basically announcing if something better comes along. See you, Chapel Hill.
Dan Patrick
Thank you, Tom.
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Thank you. Goodbye.
Dan Patrick
Tom Kern, NBC Sports Insider. By the way, did you see when the jets took the field yesterday with the Dolphins, the flag? They had the flag upside down. Now, that might be considered a political statement.
Seaton
Is that like a sign of circles? We do not support this.
Dan Patrick
But I'm like you knuckleheads, you got the flag upside down. Unless somebody said, hey, watch this, this will be funny. But yeah, that pretty much emblematic of the jets season. Upside down. Take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store tomorrow. Right after this, be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9:00am Eastern, 6:00am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. And the iHeartRadio app.
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Dan Patrick
There is football tonight and I'm excited about it. North Dakota State versus Montana State. It's the FCS championship. Got the night to themselves. That'll be great. All right, last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store tomorrow. By the way, I'm going to make a declaration. It's not a hot take, it's just a declaration. By the time I retire in three years, Victor Wembanyama will be the MVP of the NBA. I watched him against Joker the other night. Man, if you don't get him now or next year, you're not going to stop him. It is scary. It really is. And, and Joker, I, I still think is the best player in the game, but when you see that's the best player and Victor Wembanyama is just starting out, he's going to be an MVP, I think before he's 25. I really do. I think he's that impressive. And by the way, I know we don't focus on it. I know the other shows don't focus on it. I probably focus on them more than the other shows, but I'm not doing it for clicks. The Cleveland Cavaliers have been unbelievable this year. Unbelievable. Make a case. The best team in, in basketball right now. I don't know how this translates to the Postseason, but they're 31 and 4. So just throwing that out there. You know, it's not the Lakers, it's not Golden State, it's not the Celtics, not the knicks. Cleveland is 31 and 4. They are historically great. Off to historically great start. But just a couple of things. Maybe you know, doesn't get focused on as much with the national media, but Cleveland has been pretty incredible this day in sports history. Paul just got a couple.
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In 1976, Ted Turner bought the Atlanta Braves for blank million dollars. Blank million dollars.
Dan Patrick
$10 million.
T-Mobile Advertiser
$12 million.
Dan Patrick
Dang. Wow. That's why I lost out. I bid 10, he bid 12.
T-Mobile Advertiser
1997, Peter O'Malley announced the Dodgers were for sale. They've been in this family for 47 years. 1998, Barry Switzer resigned as a head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. And oh, our buddy Gilbert Arenas had a rough day in 2010 bringing a bag of guns to the facility. Seems like a nice guy now though.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, yeah, I like him. The rough week, I'm always bag of guns. I like when somebody puts something in their bag in their luggage and then they're surprised that they had. I, I brought the gun to, you know, the airport. Yes. You can't do that. Damn. Has anybody seen my gun? Hun? I put it in your suitcase. Did you? Oh, I brought that to the airport. Let me see. Tony and Rochester. Hi, Tone. Thanks for holding. What's on your mind today?
Caller Tony
Hey, Dan. First time, long time.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Caller Tony
11, 185. Member of the Dead Dad Club. Okay, indexing about a 16.
Dan Patrick
Tony. Tony. Are you in a spaceship or something?
Caller Tony
Sometimes I feel that way.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Caller Tony
I'm a little sounder.
Dan Patrick
What was the number?
Caller Tony
Is that better?
T-Mobile Advertiser
Yeah.
Dan Patrick
What was the noise?
Caller Tony
I don't know. I was sitting up Perhaps.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Caller Tony
But I, I just want to get, I mean, Josh Allen seems to me his consecutive starts, he's had a great season. He's, he's transformed himself from like a, you know, the turnover in waiting, and now he's arguably the mvp and he really is, you know, in western New York, like a folk hero. I mean, the funny thing is, one of the hottest commodities around here is like one of those life size cutouts of him. Like, if you see one at a store and you just ask them for it, the people will tell you, we just got a, an offer for a thousand dollars for this day. We're gonna raffle it off. We're gonna raise money. Like, you can't get your hands. People put it in their window.
Dan Patrick
Tony, is there a question here or like, I mean, it's nice to know that they have a cardboard cutout of Josh Allen and people want to take him home, but. Got anything else?
Caller Tony
But I think the worst, I think the worst of the weekend is, and probably the worst of the year is Sean McDermott. I think that his job is very much in jeopardy if they don't win the Super Bowl. And I think it's been a couple of years.
Dan Patrick
Wait, okay. I think he's done a really good job this year. In other years, maybe not. And good luck with your Josh Allen cardboard cutout there. Tony was on hold for over an hour and a half. I didn't, I didn't know if there was a point getting his money's worth. Yeah.
Seaton
Damn it.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. Anywho, let me see Alex in Utah. Hi, Alex. What's on your mind today?
Caller Alex
Hey, thanks for, thanks for taking my call. 38 to 0. That was my best of the weekend. I understand that it was a Kansas City B team, but any time you can just open up a good old fashioned can of butt whooping on the division rival, it just feels good, especially to secure a playoff spot.
Dan Patrick
Sure.
Caller Alex
Princely. I love the smack talk. Keep it up real quick. I, I, guys, I have not been able to get Stephen Wilson Jr. III out of my mind since that interview. I mean, like, I am a song is playing constantly on the background. Like, I, it's not on Spotify. So I got watch your interview with him over and over again. I mean, like when Satan said best song he's ever heard, I was like, all right, okay, like, let's tone it down. But I hear it. Every time I hear it, I'm like, I gotta call my dad, tell him I love him. So for me, best interview of 2024. Thanks. For introducing me to him. You guys have a great week.
Dan Patrick
Thank you, Alex. Thank you. Yeah. Stephen Wilson Jr. Is the artist and if you go to Spotify, he's very talented. Glad that we had him in studio and hopefully we gave him a kind of a sounding board, a launching pad for the rest of the country to experience his music. Ted in Tampa. Hi, Ted.
Caller Tony
Hey, Dan. It's 10 Champa Bay for its clear blue and 72.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Caller Tony
Yeah. Best and best of the weekend, of course, was a Tampa Bay buccaneers beaten squeak them by the New Orleans Saints. The second best of the week was Jerry Jones had his acting debut on your favorite show, Landman yesterday. He was on for 25 minutes. He did a great job.
Dan Patrick
Oh, okay. I stopped watching Landman and I love Billy Bob Thornton. I just. Something was missing, you know, I know they try to create a like an oil version of Yellowstone, but it. It just. It wasn't there for me. I'm also trying to get through squid game two. I'm struggling a little bit here. Seaton said that it's worth it, but it's not as good as season one. Let's go around the room. What we learned on the program. Todd, what'd you learn today?
Todd Fritz
Albert Berea thinks Aaron Rodgers could very well have a Brett Favre hair across his ass and wants to prove the jets or everyone goes to another team.
Dan Patrick
All right, Seaton, I think we start.
Seaton
Booking guests in order of importance.
Dan Patrick
Marvin, you think the Pat situation is sad?
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Podcast Summary: The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 3 with Albert Breer and Tom Curran
Release Date: January 6, 2025
Guests: Albert Breer (Monday Morning Quarterback), Tom Curran (NBC Sports Boston Insider)
In the third hour of The Dan Patrick Show aired on January 6, 2025, host Dan Patrick delved deep into the tumultuous changes within the NFL, focusing on coaching staff alterations, potential player movements, and strategic decisions impacting several teams. Joined by renowned sports analyst Albert Breer and NBC Sports Boston Insider Tom Curran, the episode provided listeners with insider perspectives on the recent upheavals in the league, particularly surrounding the New England Patriots, Las Vegas Raiders, and key player dynamics involving Aaron Rodgers and Tyreek Hill.
Albert Breer’s Insights on Gerard Mayo’s Dismissal
The episode opened with Dan Patrick highlighting the firing of Gerard Mayo, the Patriots' offensive coordinator. Albert Breer provided a comprehensive analysis of the Patriots' decision:
"They put this language in Drod Mayo's contract so he was the coach in waiting. And then maybe they realized that he might be the coach in waiting but he shouldn't be our coach now, maybe that the job was a little too big for him." [04:26]
Breer elaborated on the lack of mentorship from Bill Belichick post his retirement, emphasizing the Patriots' inability to support Mayo adequately:
"They couldn't support him with the roster, they couldn't support him with the infrastructure. And I think that led to a disorganized mess over the last couple of months..." [06:23]
He further critiqued the Patriots' insular approach to scouting and hiring, suggesting that their reluctance to engage externally hampered their ability to adapt to modern football dynamics.
Potential Succession with Mike Vrabel
Discussing the probable successor, Breer pointed towards Mike Vrabel as the leading candidate:
"Vrabel has always shown great deference to the crafts in terms of what they built here, what this team's all about and he would be the antidote." [27:54]
Breer compared the current situation to the Patriots' previous transitions, indicating that Vrabel’s familiarity with the organization could provide the stability needed during this period of change.
Raiders’ Potential Moves: Shadrach Sanders vs. Aaron Rodgers
The conversation shifted to the Raiders, with Breer addressing whether the team should trade up for Shadrach Sanders or retain their draft picks to possibly sign Aaron Rodgers and re-acquire Davante Adams:
"The Raiders should either trade up for Shador Sanders or keep the pick and sign Aaron Rodgers and bring back Davonte Adams, which I don't think is going to happen." [02:01]
He underscored the complexities surrounding Rodgers’ situation, especially considering his recent performance and personal decisions:
"I think somebody would take a look at it. Like, do I think he is what he was three or four years ago? No. Do I think there's a possibility that you'd be getting a very motivated Aaron Rodgers if the Jets wound up dumping him? Yeah." [10:58]
Tom Curran on Rodgers and Brady’s Involvement
Tom Curran added depth to the discussion by contemplating Rodgers' future and the Chiefs' potential interest in Tyreek Hill:
"I don't think the Jets can tell you what their plan is until there's a head coach and general manager in place... It might put a nice capstone on his career." [12:10]
Curran also speculated on Brady’s possible influence with the Raiders, questioning how a coaching change might unfold if Brady decided to take a more active role.
Brock Purdy’s Contract Negotiations
The panel addressed Brock Purdy’s contract situation with the San Francisco 49ers, where Breer anticipated an early resolution:
"I think they'll find a happy medium. The Niners are a really smart organization, and they're going to turn the page in a lot of different ways..." [15:25]
Tyreek Hill’s Career Path
Discussing Tyreek Hill, Breer envisioned a scenario where Hill might return to the Chiefs, enhancing their offensive dynamics:
"If Tyreek Hill wound up back on the Chiefs next year?... bringing him back at a little bit of a discount, I think would probably appeal to some people in the Chiefs organization." [16:11]
He highlighted Hill’s potential to provide a strong finish to his career, benefiting both the player and the team.
Grieving Listener Lou’s Call
A poignant moment occurred when listener Lou shared his recent losses:
"I very unexpectedly lost my dog...my dad went to the ER and he's not doing so well." [19:53]
Dan Patrick offered compassionate advice on handling grief, emphasizing the importance of not rushing to replace a beloved pet:
"Grief. The reason why it hurts so much is you love them so much. So there's nothing wrong with that." [22:30]
Tony’s Perspective on Josh Allen and Sean McDermott
Another listener, Tony, expressed admiration for Josh Allen and concerns about Sean McDermott’s job security:
"Josh Allen seems to be his consecutive starts, he's had a great season...the worst is Sean McDermott." [39:23]
Patricia Breer countered by defending McDermott’s performance this season, acknowledging previous challenges but recognizing his current success.
Upcoming Games and Player Performances
Dan Patrick wrapped up the episode by sharing his excitement for the FCS Championship and making bold predictions:
"By the time I retire in three years, Victor Wembanyama will be the MVP of the NBA... the Cleveland Cavaliers have been unbelievable this year." [35:29]
Breer and Curran provided their takes on these predictions, discussing the impact of emerging talents and the strategic movements of key players across leagues.
Closing Remarks
The episode concluded with reflective thoughts on historical sports moments and light-hearted banter about coaching decisions, emphasizing the unpredictable nature of sports management and the enduring passion of fans.
Albert Breer: "The Raiders should either trade up for Shador Sanders or keep the pick and sign Aaron Rodgers and bring back Davonte Adams, which I don't think is going to happen." [02:01]
Albert Breer: "Vrabel has always shown great deference to the crafts in terms of what they built here, what this team's all about and he would be the antidote." [27:54]
Dan Patrick: "There's no universal law that says you can't lose your dog and your dad in the same week." [21:21]
Albert Breer: "They made the move within an hour of the game's end when there was so much uncertainty whether or not a move would even be made shows the urgency I think that they're feeling." [25:16]
Tom Curran: "Gerard failed in large part because he didn't have podium experience and couldn't anticipate what he was going to deal with." [30:42]
Hour 3 of The Dan Patrick Show provided an in-depth exploration of the dynamic shifts within the NFL, offering listeners expert analysis from Albert Breer and Tom Curran. From coaching turnovers and player contracts to heartfelt listener interactions, the episode encapsulated the multifaceted nature of sports discourse, blending strategic insights with personal narratives to deliver a comprehensive and engaging experience for fans.