Hour 3 – Arm-ageddon, Robert Horry

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 3 (Feb 27, 2026)
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This episode dives into the ongoing debate about Robert Horry’s Hall of Fame worthiness, his career with multiple NBA dynasties, the value of role players, and wide-ranging NBA topics. The hour is punctuated by the show’s signature banter, listener calls, and a humorous “Arm-ageddon” contest among the Danettes. Hall of Fame 7-time NBA champion Robert Horry (“Big Shot Bob”) joins for a candid conversation.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Robert Horry on the Hall of Fame & His NBA Career

[05:10–19:09]

• Dan Patrick opens by asking Horry why he isn’t in the Hall of Fame despite 7 NBA titles with 3 different franchises.

  • Horry admits he doesn’t keep up with the selection process to avoid heartbreak, but this is his second year being nominated.
    • “I’m happy but not content.” – Robert Horry [05:46]
  • Discusses being overshadowed by superstars on his teams (Olajuwon, Shaq, Duncan), sacrificing stats for winning, and missing out on honors like All-Defensive teams.
    • “A lot of those guys in the Hall of Fame don’t have what I have, and that’s seven championships.” – Robert Horry [07:06]

• Comparing superstars: If he could pick one, he’d choose 2000 MVP Shaq (over Olajuwon and Duncan).

  • “If you’re giving me the 2000 Shaq, I’m taking Shaq.” – Robert Horry [07:14]

• How would Horry’s Rockets have fared against Jordan’s Bulls?

  • “We would have beat him.” – Robert Horry [07:42]
  • Details the favorable matchups and lack of answer for Olajuwon; notes Jordan’s Bulls did lose (e.g., 1995 to Orlando).

• Jordan vs Pippen: Who’s the better defender?

  • “Pippen. By far. … Pippen is so underrated and underappreciated…maybe Jordan only won because of Pippen.” – Robert Horry [08:41]

• Asked about being a peacemaker between Shaq & Kobe

  • “I’ve never had to play peacemaker…winning solves all problems.” [09:37]
  • Inside stories: Locker room was lighter than the media perceived, the team’s veterans ensured focus when necessary.

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2. Current Lakers and NBA Analysis

[10:33–15:28]

• Lakers’ defensive struggles: Horry critiques LA’s overreliance on three-point shooters and under-utilizing defenders:

  • “The NBA is not about threes. It’s about getting buckets. … Golden State has Ferraris when it comes to shooting threes. Everybody else has maybe Mercedes or BMWs.” — Robert Horry [11:29]

• On whether Luka Doncic can play defense:

  • “If you don’t play defense, you don’t win. … The worst term ever used in basketball is a two-way player. That term should be thrown out. That’s only for football.” [12:51]
  • Argues every historically great player played both ends.

• Debates Luka’s athleticism:

  • “He is athletic. … Luka is a beast.” [13:41]
  • Discusses how strength and smarts can compensate for lack of elite quickness.

• Complaining to referees: LeBron’s frustrations are more justified due to physicality.

  • “He doesn’t get the calls like a Shay [Gilgeous-Alexander] does, like a Luka.” [14:31]

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3. Personal Stories & SureCo Healthcare Mission

[15:28–19:09]

• On not playing football in Alabama:

  • “My mother said no from Jump street…you’re allowed to play two sports and football is not one of them.” [15:32]

• Alabama pride: Horry reminisces about playing college basketball there, family ties.

• SureCo plug: Horry shares the personal struggle getting insurance for his late daughter, which inspired his involvement in transforming healthcare access for underserved communities.

  • “We’re trying to customize insurance for you to make it work better for you.” [17:53]
  • Heartfelt moment recalling his daughter (passed at 17) and the impact of losing a child.

• Hall of Fame reflection:

  • “Just want everybody to know the Hall of Fame is not about what you did in the NBA. … It’s a basketball Hall of Fame.” [18:42]

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4. NBA Rookie Three-Point Records & Steph Curry’s Legacy

[30:14–31:41]

• Discussion of Con Knipple breaking rookie record for threes in a season (59 games, ahead of Steph Curry’s pace).
  • “Knipple is far more athletic than you think…beautiful shot, look at his form.” – Dan Patrick [31:41]
• Will anyone break Curry’s all-time records?
  • “Even if somebody does break that record…his [Curry’s] place is secure. He did change the game.” – Marvin Prince [31:10]
  • Stats shared on Steph's progression, injury setbacks, and shooting volume.

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5. Listener Calls: The State of NBA Point Guards & Isaiah Thomas Debate

[25:30–29:15]

• What happened to Isaiah Thomas (late 80s/early 90s) and All-NBA voting?
  • Dan and Paulie discuss Thomas' career, his being underrated, and his sometimes difficult relationship with media and other stars.
  • “I thought he actually was underrated. I don’t think he was well liked outside of the Pistons…but he was a great player.” – Dan Patrick [26:49]
• Comparing Isaiah Thomas and John Stockton as all-time point guards.
  • The Danettes mostly lean Isaiah for “killer instinct,” Stockton for pure point guard play.

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6. Featured: “Arm-ageddon” – The Danettes Measure Arm Lengths

[24:22, 32:20–38:01]

• A running joke mirrored after NFL Combine measurements:
  • Danettes measure arm length, riff on what this would mean as athletes.
  • Results: Marvin has the longest arms at 31” (“This is for you… I can hug the trophy. I just can’t grab it.” — Marvin Prince [37:19]), Paul has the shortest (“I can’t even reach Marvin.” — Paul Pabst [36:49]).
• The segment is laced with mock suspense, faux controversy about measurement accuracy (“I don’t know if everybody got measured the same way…” — Dan Patrick [38:03]), and the classic show camaraderie (“Long arms, little hands — that’s the new T-shirt right there.” — Marvin [36:58]).

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7. Odds & Ends: Coaching Odds, Big Shot Debates, and Listener Q&A

[44:32–51:08]

• NFL Coach of the Year Odds: John Harbaugh leads, with the Danettes debating candidate credibility.
• Greatest clutch shooters call-in: Who takes the biggest shot: Reggie, Larry, Horry, Ray Allen, or Steph?
  • Dan: “No wrong answer, but I have seen them hit big shots… I probably take Reggie second.”
• Wedding advice call-in: Dan offers, “You fall in love, you stay married because you like each other.”
• This Day in Sports History: Michael Jordan, the first 40-year-old to score 40+ points in the NBA.
• Final show reflections: Armageddon’s aftermath still looms (“Redemption day for Marv.” — Paulie [50:50]), and the usual Friday sign-off.

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Memorable Quotes

• On Hall of Fame legacy:
  “The Hall of Fame is not about what you did in the NBA. … It’s a basketball Hall of Fame.” — Robert Horry [18:42]

• On NBA analytics and three-point shooting:
  “Golden State have Ferraris… Everybody else got Mercedes Benz of BMWs.” — Robert Horry [11:29]

• On the value of role players:
  “More players like myself sacrifice their games for everybody else to be better.” — Robert Horry [06:17]

• Arm-ageddon Winner:
  “This is for you… I can hug the trophy. I just can’t grab it.” — Marvin Prince [37:19] “Long arms, little hands — that’s the new T-shirt right there.” — Marvin [36:58]

• On marriage advice:
  “You fall in love, you stay married because you like each other.” — Dan Patrick [48:49]

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Notable Timestamps

• [03:13] NFL Combine viewership poll results
• [05:10–19:09] Robert Horry full interview
• [10:33] Lakers analysis and defensive critique
• [15:28] Horry on SureCo, healthcare, and personal story
• [24:22, 32:20–38:01] Arm-ageddon segment & results
• [25:30–29:15] Isaiah Thomas/Stockton debate
• [30:14–31:41] Rookie three-point record & Curry legacy
• [44:32–51:08] Odds, phone calls, and episode wrap

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Tone and Show Dynamics

• The conversation is open, candid, and often playful, bouncing quickly from substantive basketball analysis to the Danettes’ competitive (and comedic) antics.
• Horry’s segments are respectful and introspective, touching on career highs and deep personal loss.
• Show banter and “Arm-ageddon” inject levity, reinforcing the camaraderie that defines The Dan Patrick Show.

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Conclusion

This hour of The Dan Patrick Show shines a spotlight on Robert Horry’s unique NBA career, the oft-overlooked value of team players, and ongoing debates about basketball greatness. The episode balances serious sports conversation with listener engagement and the group’s enduring humor, making it both informative and entertaining.

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[Marvin Prince]

Yeah. Well, right now we only got the one up about how much NFL combine do you watch? Because this is just getting it gets worse and worse. Somehow 75% of our audience watch zero NFL combine. That like makes me question so much about what I do.

[Todd Fritz]

Oh, the fact that we do watch it.

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Not only that we watch it, but like we talk about it.

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Yeah.

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And nobody watches 75% of the audience right now, at least here, don't watch it at all.

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I'm not ashamed that I've watched the combine.

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877-3DP show operator Tyler sitting by who take your phone calls. He's big shot Bob. Robert Orey and Laker analyst for Spectrum Sportsnet. Also joining us on behalf of SureCo. We'll talk about that. He's the chief impact officer for SureCo whose mission is to transform health care for working Americans and helping underserved individuals and families battling insurance costs and premiums. Good to see you again, Bob. You know, every time I have you on, I always think, why aren't you in the hall of Fame now it's seven titles and. Okay. And the reason why I bring it up and now, now I really feel like, like this is an injustice. Michael Cooper's in because he was part of a collaboration with the Lakers, one team. But you won titles with the Lakers, the Rockets and the spurs and your nickname is big shot Bob. I, I'm just trying to understand like you were a semifinalist I think last year. Is that right?

[Robert Ori]

I think so. I, you know, I don't keep up but because if I If I don't get it, I'd be too heartbroken. So I don't really keep up.

[Todd Fritz]

But somebody makes a case for somebody, presents your case to the.

[Robert Ori]

Correct.

[Todd Fritz]

The committee.

[Robert Ori]

Correct. Yeah. You know, Rudy T. Was when he had his induction speech, he kind of gave me a shout out, and then it kind of rolled from there. So this is my second year being nominated. I did get in this year, but, you know, I'm keeping my fingers crossed. It's disappointing when you don't get in, but on the other side of that is a lot of guys that don't even get, you know, a mention or sniff of the hall of Fame. So I'm just. I'm happy but not content.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah. Seven titles and being a contributor, that. That, to me, nobody's had more titles and not made the hall of Fame than you. So that's why, like, I don't know, it's a statistical anomaly. It feels like that you've been part of three different franchises and even part of the. The Laker team. And I don't know if you felt like maybe you were overshadowed by some of these players you played with and maybe didn't get that acknowledgment.

[Robert Ori]

Yeah, I do. I do. Because sometimes as a player, there are more players like myself that sacrifice their games for everybody else to be better. And I think about when I got to Houston, you know, of course, Dream MVP Shaq, MVP Tim Dunk. You kind of take a backseat to those guys. And for me, it was all about winning. And if I did it the right way, you were going to win. I felt like everything else was going to take care of itself. And I think about my first couple of years in the league where I was 100 guy, 100 steals, 100 blocks, and never made it all defensive team. And that was one of the things that really, really made me mad, because I'm like, how? And I'm like, well, I was kind of overshadowed by the guy who was a defensive player of the year, meaning dream blocking shots. But I had almost as many block shots as you, you know, and for me, it's. It hurts, but I. A lot of those guys in the hall of Fame don't have what I have, and that's seven championships.

[Todd Fritz]

Okay, I'm going to give you the first pick. You can have Akeem Elijah, 1. You can have Tim Duncan. You can have Shaq.

[Robert Ori]

If you're giving me the 2000. Shaq. I'm taking Shaq. If I can pick out which guy. I know he was just so Dominant the year he won MVP, man, you think about it, averaging almost 30, 20, and his personality was fantastic. In a Dream would be second, and Tim would be a close second, third. But you can't. You can't really pick when you have great guys like those three guys. You know, I enjoy playing with all three of them.

[Todd Fritz]

How would your Rockets have done against Jordan's Bulls?

[Robert Ori]

We would have beat him. We would beat him. You know, it's. It's. Everybody wants. And everybody's like, well, Jordan. Jordan is. Jordan actually loses sometime. All the great lose sometime. You know, we just go by our record against the Bulls when we were there, and we were pretty good. And I think when it comes to matchups, and I think Vernon mashing the guts. MJ was pretty good matchup. Myself against sky was a good matchup. But so now who was going to match up with Dream? Nobody. So, you know, and playing for Phil and knowing Phil's mentality, I think we would have won that series. And I know a lot of people like, man, you crazy. I'm like. Probably calls Jordan Jordan. People forget. Jordan came back in 95. He had a double nickel against the Knicks, but he got beat by the Orlando Magic. Why? Because his team wasn't good enough.

[Todd Fritz]

You ever discussed this with Jordan?

[Robert Ori]

I've never had a chance to. You know, I would love to. You know, it'd be a good debate. But I know he's out winning NASCAR races, so he doesn't have time for basketball anymore.

[Todd Fritz]

Better defender Jordan or Pippen?

[Robert Ori]

Pippen. By far. Really? By far. And this is one thing people don't understand about Scottie Pippen. Scottie Pippen is the ultimate basketball player. Me, he's one of my top five of all time. Because when you think about a player who can guard every position on the floor, there's only, like three of those that's ever existed. You know, you think about, he can go to point guard, he can go to center, he can score. When Jordan left, he took them to the Eastern Conference finals, and he gets. So that's one thing about when you play with greats. I mean, like supersonic greats like Michael Jordan, everybody else says, oh, he only won because of Jordan. Maybe Jordan only only won because of Pippen. And I think Pippen is so underrated and so underappreciated, and I. I think people need to really sit. They take a seat and look at what he did throughout his career and really marvel at what he did. He was. He was great.

[Todd Fritz]

How often do you play peacemaker between Kobe And Shaq, I've never had to play peacemaker.

[Robert Ori]

It was the weirdest thing. You know, he was always, Kobe was always, you know, intense. Shaq was always intense and we always won. I think, you know, winning solves all problems. You know, we, we didn't, we didn't lose much when I was, see, I

[Todd Fritz]

wonder though, Shaq's goofy and I didn't know if that bothered Kobe, who isn't goofy.

[Robert Ori]

But here's the thing is you don't know Kobe like we knew Kobe. You get in practice, don't get me wrong, there are times in practice where everybody's intense, but then you have those moments where you shooting the, the bull and having fun and, and we had film of us in the locker room mean Kobe B show, Rick Fox and all of us and Derek Fisher. You'll be like, man, y' all are silly. How do y' all win? Because we used to have so much fun on the planes and locker room outside of the camera. Because the thing about great teams, when you step on that court, you are focused, you getting the job done. And that's what we were able to do. We got the job done because we had a lot of vets, a lot of guys who were hungry for championships.

[Todd Fritz]

Talking to Robert Ori, the Lakers analyst for Spectrum SportsNet, it feels like we keep waiting for a different alternative outcome for the Lakers, but it's the same. Robert. They, I mean, they're top heavy with, you know, talent and they do not play defense well. Right?

[Robert Ori]

Yeah, it's, it's. But I, I think when you look at the Lakers, they have guys on the team that can play defense. But the problem is we're such a three ball team that when you put them in the game, they're not three ballers. You talking about, you know, Van, do you know Marcus Smart is up and down. You have, you know, Jackson Hayes, those guys are really good defenders. But you don't want them on the court sometime because you're thinking about threes. And I'm all about getting buckets. I tell people all the time, the NBA is not about threes, it's about getting buckets. Who can get a bucket when they need a bucke? And if you look at all the guys who've won championships, you look at Shay Gildrich, MVP last year, his game is not predicated on threes. It's predicated getting that mid range jumper, getting to the hole, getting n ones. And then the year before that, it's like somehow analytics got thrown this where three balls win. Championships. But everybody doesn't have what Golden State has. Golden State have Ferraris. When it comes to shooting threes, everybody else got like maybe, you know, Mercedes Benz of BMWs. And so that is the difference that people have to understand. Just because it worked for one team doesn't gonna mean it's gonna work for everybody else.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah, just trying to figure this out. I mean, can you teach Luca to play defense?

[Robert Ori]

You know, if you, if Luka plays in spurs. And it's so weird because sometimes you watch him like, okay, Luka, you're gonna move your feet. And then sometimes he just goes and sits, you know, on the block and grabs rebound and pushes it. I think if the team as a whole got on each other and said we need to play defense, and that's the great thing about the teams I play for, we would yell at each other, we will argue with each other, but at the end of the day, we know it's for the best of the team. Because if you don't play defense, you don't win. I think the Lakers, you know, after getting beat by the Phoenix Suns last night without their two best players is a sign that you got to play defense.

[Todd Fritz]

But in fairness to Luka, he's asked to carry so much on the other end, right? He's got a. His energy should be directed to the offensive side of the ball.

[Robert Ori]

So let me ask you this question. Michael Jordan played on both ends of the floor, right? Kobe Bryant played on both ends of the floor, right? Elijah want to play both ends of the floor. So why can't Luca do it too? And that's the thing that about basketball. And the worst term that's ever used in basketball is a two way player. That term should be thrown out. That's only for football. And because basketball is a sport played on both ends of the floor, you can rest at moments like a lot of players do, but you have to play both ends of the floor. And I think when you look at the game of basketball, that's how the best players should be judged. You know, you look at Kawhi, you know, and for instance, my MVP this year is Jaylen Brown slash Kate Come. Because those guys do it on both ends of the floor, you know. And so that's the thing you have to look at. Basketball is just not about offense. It's about defense too.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah, I just don't think that Luke is athletic the way Kobe and Mike and Akeem were.

[Robert Ori]

He is athletic. He just. Here's the thing, there's a lot of guys that are Like Luka. And Luka's very, very strong. So you have to use that to your advantage. Because you see sometimes when guys are trying to get to the hole on Luka, when he does move his feet, they bounce off because he's so solid. He's just got to learn how to use that to his advantage. Every, every NBA player adapts to the game so he can adapt defensively where he can learn. You know, don't get me wrong, Luka is a beast though. He can get his, but I think a lot of teams now are isolating those and doing a lot of one on one to try to manipulate the defense to get draws and kick. Sometimes you just gotta say, you know what, Take it on your own and guard him.

[Todd Fritz]

He does complain a lot, Robert.

[Robert Ori]

Hey, what player in the NBA doesn't complain?

[Todd Fritz]

Okay, Mike. Did Mike complain a lot? Did Jordan complain a lot?

[Robert Ori]

You know what? I, I, I can't really say because I didn't play with him. So when you play with someone, you watch someone 82 games, you can tell they complain a lot. And I think, you know, the only guy that complains a lot and is justly so is, is, is LeBron James because he gets beat up going sometimes and he doesn't get the calls like a Shay does, like a Luca, like an Ar. And so I think he's the only one should be, should be allowed to complain in the league.

[Todd Fritz]

So you think it's legitimate that, well, just like Shaq, I mean, yeah, Shaq got beat up every single time. It felt like down the floor.

[Robert Ori]

Yeah, I remember playing next to Shaq and all you hear is, oh, smack, smack, smack.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah.

[Robert Ori]

And the refs like, oh, he's strong enough to handle that. He shouldn't bother him and that, and that's not fair because Shay is strong enough, Luke is strong enough. You know, Steph is strong enough because this is what, this is a man's league. It's not a kids league, it's a man league. So everybody should be strong enough to withstand those hit, but they give them to certain players and they don't give it to other players.

[Todd Fritz]

You grew up in Alabama. Was there pressure for you to play football?

[Robert Ori]

My mother said no from Jump street. She said, hey, she said, you're allowed to play two sports and football is

[Todd Fritz]

not one of them.

[Robert Ori]

So I played baseball and basketball and you know, don't get me wrong, I love, love football. I wish I could have played, you know, but it's one of those things that you kind of mama knows best

[Todd Fritz]

are You Alabama Crimson Tide fan?

[Robert Ori]

Yes, I am.

[Todd Fritz]

Okay.

[Robert Ori]

You know, Alabama, went to Alabama from 88 to 92, had four great years on the WIMP. Sanderson won three SEC championships. Alabama's in my blood. My wife always talks about why you always like Alabama. Because it's in my blood. Just the same way you like usc.

[Todd Fritz]

Oh, okay. That have to be interesting conversations. Let me get the plug in here. Robert Orr is the chief impact officer for SureCo. It's a S U R E C O and the mission is to transform healthcare for working Americans. Tell us what, what else you're doing with this.

[Robert Ori]

Well, SureCo is a company because I. I don't want to bore you with my story. The story started when you leave the NBA. It's all about what, what kind of insurance plan you had. And then my daugh passed away and. But it was hard to get insurance for her because of the Obamacare. Was finally able to get insurance for her. And they kind of heard my story on how I was frustrated with the insurance and how it wasn't working for me and, and then how I have all this money in HRA and I can't touch. And it was just a whole thing. I was like, you know what? The two guys I met, Matt and Matt, they come at Chris. And so we were talking, he said, man, you should join us because our mission is to try to change healthcare as a whole and to try to do different things for not just, you know, businesses, but, you know, people in rural areas. And that what excited me about it because I wanted to go to the rural areas because that's where I'm from, to let them understand the insurance is here for you. I know it's difficult and it's hard to understand. Like, I'm still learning, you know, and I had to deal with a lot when it came to my daughter Ashlyn and understanding how to get her the proper care. So it's just one of those things. We don't want people being afraid of it. You know, take 10 minutes, 20 minutes a day and start reading up on it so you can learn about, you know, ICRA and all these other things. So that's what my, you know, Sugar and I are trying to do basically in. In a whole, we're trying to customize insurance for you to make it work better for you.

[Todd Fritz]

How old was your daughter when she passed away?

[Robert Ori]

She was 17.

[Todd Fritz]

And you never get over that.

[Robert Ori]

Yeah, you never do. You know, you have those days when you wake up and you see one little thing that reminds you of you just started crying and all this kind of stuff, or you start smiling because you know, know it. When you. When you lose a loved one, you shouldn't always cry. You know, you miss them, of course. But you gotta remember all those moments that gave you so much joy. And I remember sitting down and, you know, the last picture I had with her, I was eating a slice of pizza and she kept trying to not let me eat and just wanted to hug me. So you have moments like that are special and that'll stay with you the rest of your life.

[Todd Fritz]

Hopefully you got a special moment coming up here. Getting in the hall of Fame about I'll keep sounding the alarm, Robert. I'll keep sounding the alarm.

[Robert Ori]

I want to say this, man. That means a lot to me because I have a lot of people in my corner for the hall of Fame. And I just want people to understand that they look at numbers a lot, how many points you scored, how many rebounds you got. But I just want to let everybody know the hall of fame is not about what you did in the NBA. The hall of fame is about what you did in your basketball career. Because it was about the NBA. It'd be an NBA hall of fame. This is a basketball hall of fame. So thank you for having me on. I really appreciate it, man.

[Todd Fritz]

Robert Orey, Lakers analyst for Spectrum sportsnet. And the company is sureco S u r e c o and the mission to transfer health care for working Americans. All right, we'll take a break and get to your phone calls. Coming up, Khan Kanipple is resetting the record books when it comes to three pointers made by a rookie and he's only 59 games in and he already has the record. We'll talk about that coming up right after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, is Cavino and Rich from Fox sports radio. Now, in addition to hearing us live weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox sports radio, we're excited to announce a brand new YouTube channel for the show. Yup, that's right. You can now watch Covino and rich live on YouTube every day. All you got to do search COVINO and RICH FSR on YouTube again. Go to YouTube. Search COVINOENRICH FSR. Check us out on YouTube. Subscribe. Hit that thumbs up icon and comment away.

[Dan Patrick]

On June 11, 1998, a deputy from the Los Angeles county sheriff's department went missing. It's an all out manhunt for John Awjay. Every search and rescue team in LA

[Chelsea Handler]

county has been called in to help.

[Dan Patrick]

Within days tips started flooding into the sheriff's department.

[Chelsea Handler]

They ruler around the drug scene. Was that a deputy was taken care of.

[Dan Patrick]

Is this the story of a man who just got lost in the desert? Or of a cover up inside the nation's largest sheriff's department?

[Todd Fritz]

A homicide captain saying detective, do not

[Marvin Prince]

find out if this guy's guilty or innocent.

[Todd Fritz]

Who does that?

[Dan Patrick]

Valley of Shadows A new series from Pushkin Industries about crime and corruption in California's high desert. Do you have any advice for us while looking into this disappearance?

[Todd Fritz]

I wouldn't do it alone.

[Dan Patrick]

Listen to Valley of shadows on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ana Navarro]

I'm Ana Navarro and on my new podcast Bleep with Ana Navarro, I'm talking to the people closest to the biggest issues happening in your community and around the world. Because I know deep down inside right now we are all cursing and asking what the BLEEP is going on. I'm talking to people like Julie K. Brown who broke the explosive story on Jeffrey Epstein in 2018. These victims have been let down time and time again for decades and decades and decades by local law enforcement, by federal law enforcement, by administration after administration.

[Dan Patrick]

The Justice Department through I think we counted four presidential administrations failed these victims.

[Ana Navarro]

Listen to Bleep with Ana Navarro as part of the My Cultura Podcast Network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

Usually on this podcast, We'll Kill youl, we talk about the diseases, infections and biological threats that can make us really sick.

[Chelsea Handler]

But right now we're doing something a little different.

[Dan Patrick]

We're stepping back and looking at what the human body needs to keep going.

[Chelsea Handler]

When you consider what we know about sleep in humans, there's one rule that comes out we are predictably unpredictable sleepers.

[Dan Patrick]

We're talking about why sleep works the way it does, why our bodies don't follow, need rules, and why modern life makes rest so hard to come by.

[Chelsea Handler]

The second half of our series takes us to the digestive system with a multi part series on what happens after we eat. Okay, I just have to say that all of my favorite words apparently are digestive words.

[Dan Patrick]

Sphincter peristalsis duodenum. It's fascinating, it's funny, and it matters so much more than you think.

[Chelsea Handler]

Episodes of our new series run from January 20 through February 17, with new episodes Every. Every Tuesday on the Exactly Right Network.

[Dan Patrick]

Listen to this podcast will kill you as part of the Exactly Right Network. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Chelsea Handler]

This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we've got some incredible guests, like Kumail Nanjiani. Let's start with your cat. How is she?

[Paul Pabst]

She is not with us anymore.

[Chelsea Handler]

Okay, great, great, great way to start. So this is a great beginning, and hopefully you'll be able to, I don't know, maybe you will cry. Amanda Seyfried.

[Dan Patrick]

Life is so short. If you feel something like that, you have that fire in you for this experience. It's not for a guy. It's for the experience of being in love. And, like, it's bigger than a guy.

[Chelsea Handler]

Elizabeth Olsen.

[Dan Patrick]

I love swimming naked so much. And I know you love taking pictures of yourself.

[Chelsea Handler]

I love to be naked. I just want to be in my bra underwear all the time. Ross Matthews.

[Dan Patrick]

You know what kids always say to me? Are you a boy or a girl?

[Chelsea Handler]

Oh, my God.

[Todd Fritz]

All the time.

[Dan Patrick]

I know. So I'm always like, hi.

[Todd Fritz]

I try to butch it up for kids. Kids, you know, so they're not confused.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, but you're butching it up.

[Dan Patrick]

It's basically like an angry woman.

[Chelsea Handler]

Doris Day, right?

[Dan Patrick]

No, I turn into Bea Arthur.

[Chelsea Handler]

Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Todd Fritz]

Get a couple of phone calls in here and we will bring you Armageddon. We measured our arm length yesterday just so we could kind of fall in line with the combine. And Dylan will help the reveal. The results were were sealed earlier this morning, and Dylan will bring that to our attention. Coming up. Yeah, Phil in Iowa. Hi, Phil. What's on your mind today? 5, 6, and a hard 132.

[Caller or Guest]

Are we sure it's not too late for Kyler Murray to go back to baseball?

[Todd Fritz]

I mean, with him being the.

[Caller or Guest]

The ninth pick in the 2018 draft, I feel like if he took some BP, I would gladly go pay money

[Todd Fritz]

to see him as a, you know,

[Caller or Guest]

like a Hartford guard go or something.

[Todd Fritz]

Well, I think he's owned by his. His draft rights are owned by the Oakland A's or the Vegas A's or the Sacramento A's. But I just go back to the draft when, you know, we weren't sure if he was going to play baseball or football and he was going to be a top 10 pick in both, and he decided to play football. Kevin in Phoenix. Hi, Kevin. What's on your mind?

[Caller or Guest]

Hello, 58220, I have a question. Just wondering your thoughts. And I don't know if I can direct a question to Polly at all because he's kind of like the statistical historian of this, of the show, kind of.

[Todd Fritz]

Okay, yeah, go ahead.

[Caller or Guest]

So Isaiah Thomas, starting point guard of the Eastern Conference. 88, 89, 90. He was all NBA when they only had two NBA teams leading up until all the way up until 87. And then in 88, 89 and 90, 88, they still only had two teams, but also 89 and 90, they expanded to three all NBA teams and he wasn't voted on any of those teams.

[Todd Fritz]

Okay.

[Caller or Guest]

I just thought, and it was behind guys like John Stockton, Fat Lever, and even Kevin Johnson. So wondering what you all and you please feel free to answer as well, Dan, if you'd like to. But I was wondering kind of if Paulie had anything to say about that or if he, if he knew anything about that.

[Paul Pabst]

I'm not directly tied to Isaiah Thomas, but as far as the stat, Isaiah was first team all NBA three times, second team twice, and then the back half of his career he never made first or second team all NBA.

[Todd Fritz]

I thought he actually was underrated. I don't think he was well liked outside of the Pistons in Detroit. But he won, he won a national title at Indiana and he was a gamer. He was going to play hard, he was going to play hurt and he played big and big games. So I think he was always bothered that Stockton got more credit as, as a better point guard. And Isaiah, and I think the stats might bear this out, he would have these personal vendettas against certain players and then he would go out of his way to try to embarrass them, outscore them, score 40 points. But I don't think he was winning those games. But he wanted to show that he was a better point guard. And I think there was an altercation between Isaiah and John Stockton and then Carl Malone took a forearm to Isaiah's forehead. But he, he was a great player. Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin's Wife]

And I think it might bother him that he's not mentioned with the big three of that era. Jordan, Magic, and Bird. Isaiah's never mentioned even though he won championships and beat all three of them in the, in the playoffs, in the finals.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah, but I wouldn't put him in there with those three. I, I, I don't look at him on the same plane, you know, impact. Okay. You know, he was a good player, a great player, but he, he didn't have the impact Jordan, Magic, and Larry had.

[Marvin's Wife]

But I'm just talking about, just as a player. I'm not talking about, you know, the international reach and all that. I think it's like, wait, I beat Jordan more than he beat me.

[Todd Fritz]

If you had a team and you're starting and you have your point guard and I can. I'll give you Isaiah or John Stockton.

[Marvin's Wife]

Isaiah.

[Todd Fritz]

Okay. It might not be universal just because Stockton was, you know, what a point guard was supposed to be at the time. It was a pass first, and Stockton didn't go out of his way to score. Stockton could have scored 20 now Isaiah could have scored 30. Yes. Marvin.

[Marvin's Wife]

Yeah. I feel like Isaiah Thomas is on that Kyrie level of I can put up 40 if I want to.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It depends on what you want. Like, Tim Hardaway wasn't your. It always felt like he was the first point guard who was about scoring points. Now, Timmy also was a great passer, but I just remember he wants to shoot. You know what I watched the other day? I watched Kenny Anderson against Duke and Bobby Hurley.

[Paul Pabst]

He didn't call us.

[Marvin Prince]

Oh, something else right there. That's college basketball.

[Todd Fritz]

That was one of those where you go, oh, my God, he is crushing Bobby Hurley. So you have the preeminent point guard in college basketball. And Kenny Anderson was unbelievable. Unbelievable. And you could tell. And this Duke team played great defense. It didn't matter. Kenny Anderson put on a show. I felt bad for Bobby Hurley. I felt worse for him there than when he had diarrhea playing in the NCAA tournament. Oh, I had. I. I felt bad for him because Kenny Anderson did whatever he wanted to do, and it was mind blowing. Yeah, Paulie.

[Paul Pabst]

And Georgia Tech was cool at the time. Uniforms.

[Todd Fritz]

Yep.

[Paul Pabst]

They had lethal weapon 3. Dennis Scott, Brian Oliver. Oh, that was a Fun Squad.

[Todd Fritz]

And 3D. What a beautiful, beautiful shot. Beautiful stroke. Speaking of which, Con Knipple, he has the rookie record for most threes in a single season, and it's still February. He had eight threes last night. That's pretty good. Yes, it is. Thank you, Steve.

[Marvin Prince]

It's a good start.

[Todd Fritz]

Yes. But he's ahead of Steph Curry's pace. And Reggie Miller brought this up probably two months ago where he was saying he could see con can apple challenging Steph Curry's three point record. Now, Curry had a good rookie year, maybe his first two years, and then he hurt his ankle and then, you know, he slowed down a little bit. Now after that, he went bonkers. Yes.

[Marvin Prince]

But even if somebody does break that Record or moves past Steph Curry's, whatever records he might have, his place is secure.

[Todd Fritz]

Steph's.

[Marvin Prince]

Steph's. Yes, 100%. I mean, he was the first. He did change the game. And anybody that comes after that is still following in sort of like that

[Todd Fritz]

path that he laid. Yes.

[Paul Pabst]

Paulie Con Knippel would have to hit 300 threes a year for 15 seasons to be there.

[Todd Fritz]

Wow.

[Paul Pabst]

Steph Curry's first year, he hit 166 threes. Second year, 151, got injured. But then after that, 272, 261, 286, 402 threes in a season and 324.

[Todd Fritz]

But the offense isn't built around Con Canipple, at least not yet. It was built around Steph. They relied on him to shoot these threes and you get to shoot in volume. But Cannipal Canipple is far more athletic than you think. I think people focused on Cooper flag and rightfully so at Duke. But Knipple was a five star recruit and he can get to the hoop. He's athletic, he's strong, but beautiful. Beautiful shot. And you know that's where you want to teach somebody form. Look at his form, look at his follow through. It's pretty good. Pretty good stuff. Alrighty, it's that time. It's Armageddon. Who has the longest arms? The combine released some information yesterday with some of the top players and they had short arms, 31 inches, even shorter. So we decided that we were going to have Armageddon. We would measure our arm length. So Dylan. And aside from cooking meat Friday, he had to take over the honors of being the host of Armageddon. What we're going to ask for is I want the second, third and fourth selections and then you will bring us the fifth selection and then we will crown the king. The. The arm. King, arm and hammer. So do we want to go. We want to go one last knot. 5. Last one is last. Okay, so it'll be obvious when you go 2, 3, 4, and then we pause and then you do the big reveal and then you give five and then one. Was there any controversy? Not that I'm aware of. Dan and I have the documents in here, sealed, stapled in here. My associate Ray did a good job of covering up the information. Okay. All right, so here we go. Armageddon. The second longest arms on the Dan Patrick show belong to. The second longest arms belong to Dan Patrick. Whoa.

[Robert Ori]

Wow. Right out of the gate.

[Todd Fritz]

Wow. Wow. That's a shot. That's Major. Damn it.

[Marvin Prince]

Second longest.

[Todd Fritz]

Can we take a break?

[Paul Pabst]

You're gonna need a minute.

[Todd Fritz]

Oh, my God.

[Marvin Prince]

Collect yourself a little.

[Todd Fritz]

I'm so sorry. What?

[Marvin Prince]

Second longest.

[Todd Fritz]

All right, all right.

[Marvin Prince]

Do we want to start taking bets right now? Is there. Can we do, like a mid game wager and draftkings? Have something where you can like, mid game parlay or something about this?

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah.

[Paul Pabst]

Paulie, this could be one of the great days of Marvin Prince's life. I'm just saying that.

[Todd Fritz]

Oh, my God.

[Marvin Prince]

Who Would it bother you, Dan, to know that they have longer arms than you? Paul, Marvin.

[Todd Fritz]

Me Top. Todd. Todd. I think. Todd, how long were my arms? 29 and a quarter. Respectable. I would like to have a recount.

[Marvin Prince]

Is that.

[Todd Fritz]

Is that.

[Marvin Prince]

What's, like a. What's the average length? Like, what should we. I don't even know what to expect

[Todd Fritz]

when I get 29.

[Marvin Prince]

Sounds kind of small. Just saying.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah. When I get my sleeves, you know, my shirt, it's 18, 34, 35. Those are just made up numbers. No, they're not. The. I was measured this way. And at football night in America.

[Marvin Prince]

That was a while ago. Shrinkage possible.

[Todd Fritz]

There is shrinkage. Okay. All right. The third longest arms on the Dan Patrick show belong to Todd Fritz. All right. Right in the middle.

[Robert Ori]

Right in the middle of the pack.

[Todd Fritz]

No, I got you. All right. 29 even. All right.

[Marvin Prince]

And what was Dan?

[Todd Fritz]

29 and a quarter.

[Robert Ori]

Just.

[Todd Fritz]

Dude, right there with you. We're basically neck and neck.

[Marvin Prince]

Dang, dude.

[Todd Fritz]

Let's call it a time. Quarter inch can make a lot of difference, Todd. Alrighty. The fourth longest arms belong to Seton o'. Connor. Oh, fourth.

[Marvin Prince]

Fourth biggest hands. Fourth longest arms. I'm perfectly proportioned right in.

[Todd Fritz]

So it comes down to this. Marvin or Paulie. One has the shortest arms and one has the longest arms.

[Paul Pabst]

Yes, Paul, I'm competitive, but there's no way I could win this. I don't. I don't have long arms. There's no way. I have to be last.

[Todd Fritz]

Okay, Paulie, Doing a preemptive classic. Yeah, I know. Classic you. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, man,

[Marvin Prince]

your arms are looking long as hell right now. I got a lot. Just in the last, like, 30 seconds. They've gotten long. Dude, your arms are like six feet long.

[Todd Fritz]

It could be a long neck to scapula situation. We didn't really factor that in. I'm pulling for Marvin. I think he needs a victory in his life. Be nice. Okay. The shortest arms on the Dan Patrick show belong to Paul Pabst. 27 and a half. So. Marvin. I did it. I did it. You're a winner.

[Marvin's Wife]

He's Hartford.

[Todd Fritz]

This is for you.

[Paul Pabst]

I can't even reach Marvin.

[Caller or Guest]

A high fidelity.

[Todd Fritz]

Oh, Marvin.

[Marvin Prince]

Long arms, little hands.

[Todd Fritz]

Long arms. Oh, my gosh. Little hands.

[Marvin Prince]

That's the new T shirt right there. Long arms, little hands.

[Marvin's Wife]

I want to thank my mom for the long arms. I want to blame my dad who wasn't there for the small hands. I mean, thank you, Dan Patrick.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah, but your dad left you money in his will. He did. Okay. He did.

[Marvin's Wife]

I mean, I would like him to be there, but anyway.

[Todd Fritz]

Okay, man.

[Marvin's Wife]

Thank you guys so much, man. I really, really appreciate this.

[Todd Fritz]

It.

[Marvin's Wife]

I can hug the trophy. I just can't grab it.

[Todd Fritz]

Congratulations, though. A dominating performance by you, Marvin.

[Marvin Prince]

Kind of like being MVD and LVD in one year.

[Todd Fritz]

Most valuable. Least valuable.

[Marvin Prince]

Yeah, a little bit.

[Todd Fritz]

Okay. But if I said you could have the biggest hands or the longest arms.

[Marvin's Wife]

Longest arms. NBA combine. They don't do how big your hands are, how long the arms.

[Marvin Prince]

Marvin's. Your arms are 31 inches long.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah.

[Marvin Prince]

That's like way bigger than everybody else.

[Todd Fritz]

Kind of shattered the competition.

[Marvin's Wife]

Yep. Long and athletic. No one's ever said that long.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah. Well, congratulations. It's a wonderful moment for you.

[Marvin's Wife]

Thank you.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah.

[Marvin Prince]

A little sus to me.

[Todd Fritz]

Oh, definitely.

[Marvin Prince]

I think we need a recount.

[Todd Fritz]

I. I don't know if everybody got measured the same way.

[Marvin Prince]

We're talking about quarter of an inch. There's no way he did this accurately.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah, I take offense to that. I said you guys should do it with your shirts off. Off for accuracy. No one took me up on. Just felt creepy. Todd. Todd said, yeah, Todd wanted to take his pants off. It's a big deal.

[Marvin Prince]

Reaching out.

[Todd Fritz]

Okay, I'm gonna have to take a breather here. Let that sink in. Last call for phone calls. What we learned. What's in store for Monday.

[Marvin's Wife]

We were basically tied, just so you know.

[Todd Fritz]

We weren't. No, we weren't. Basically a push. No, we weren't. And my hands dominate. Dude. So competitive. Yes. All right, we're back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

[Dan Patrick]

On June 11, 1998, a deputy from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department went missing. It's an all out manhunt for John Ajay. Every search and rescue team in LA

[Chelsea Handler]

county has been called in to help.

[Dan Patrick]

Within days tips started flooding into the sheriff's department.

[Chelsea Handler]

They ruler around the drug scene. Was that a deputy was taken care of.

[Dan Patrick]

Is this the story of a man who just got lost in the desert? Or of a cover up inside the nation's largest sheriff's department?

[Todd Fritz]

A homicide captain saying detective, do not

[Marvin Prince]

find out if this guy's guilty or innocent.

[Todd Fritz]

Who does that?

[Dan Patrick]

That Valley of Shadows, a new series from Pushkin Industries about crime and corruption in California's high desert. Do you have any advice for us while looking into this disappearance?

[Todd Fritz]

I wouldn't do it alone.

[Dan Patrick]

Listen to Valley of shadows on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ana Navarro]

I'm Anna Navarro and on my new podcast Bleep with Ana Navarro, I'm talking to the people closest to the biggest issues happening in your community and around the world. Because I know deep down inside right now we are all cursing and asking what the BLEEP is going on. I'm talking to people like Julie K. Brown who broke the explosive story on Jeffrey Epstein in 2018. These victims have been let down time and time again for decades and decades and decades by local law enforcement, by federal law enforcement, by administration after administration.

[Dan Patrick]

The Justice Department through I think we counted four presidential administrations failed these victims.

[Ana Navarro]

Listen to Bleep with Ana Navarro as part of the My Cultura Podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

Usually on this podcast, We'll Kill youl, we talk about the diseases, infections and biological threats that can make us really sick.

[Chelsea Handler]

But right now we're doing something a little different.

[Dan Patrick]

We're stepping back and looking at what the human body needs to keep going.

[Chelsea Handler]

When you consider what we know about sleep in humans, there's one rule that comes out we are predictably unpredictable sleepers.

[Dan Patrick]

We're talking about why sleep works the way it does, why our bodies don't follow neat rules, and why modern life makes rest so hard to come by.

[Chelsea Handler]

The second half of our series takes us to the digestive system with a multi part series on what happens happens after we eat. Okay, I just have to say that all of my favorite words apparently are digestive words.

[Dan Patrick]

Sphincter, peristalsis, duodenum. It's fascinating, it's funny, and it matters so much more than you think.

[Chelsea Handler]

Episodes of our new series run from January 20 through February 17, with new episodes every Tuesday on the Exactly Right Network.

[Dan Patrick]

Listen to this podcast will kill you as part of the Exactly Right Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Chelsea Handler]

This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler. We've got some incredible guests, like Kumail Nanjiani. Let's start with your cat. How is she?

[Paul Pabst]

She is not with us anymore.

[Chelsea Handler]

Okay, great, great, great way to start. So this is a great beginning, and hopefully you'll be able to. I don't know, maybe you will cry. Amanda Seyfried.

[Dan Patrick]

Life is so short. If you feel something like that, you have that fire in you for this experience. It's not for a guy. It's for the experience of being in love and, like, it's bigger than a guy.

[Chelsea Handler]

Elizabet.

[Dan Patrick]

I love swimming naked so much. And I know you love taking pictures of yourself.

[Chelsea Handler]

I love to be naked. I just want to be in my bra underwear all the time. Ross Matthews.

[Dan Patrick]

You know what kids always say to me?

[Todd Fritz]

Are you a boy or a girl?

[Chelsea Handler]

Oh, my God.

[Todd Fritz]

All the time.

[Chelsea Handler]

I know.

[Dan Patrick]

So I'm always like, hi.

[Todd Fritz]

I try to butch it up for kids, you know, so they're not confused.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah, but you're butching it up is basically like an angry woman. Doris Day, right?

[Dan Patrick]

No, I turn into Bea Arthur.

[Chelsea Handler]

Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Todd Fritz]

I am rattled. I am clearly rattled. I have the second longest arms on the show. We have French onion soup. It was being heated in the oven. It was taken out. I grabbed it, burned my big hands. I'm. I'm clearly rattled. Clearly rattled. Marvin, congratulations. Once again.

[Marvin's Wife]

Anything is possible.

[Todd Fritz]

Very helpful. Very helpful for your. Your emotional rescue, you know? Yeah.

[Marvin's Wife]

Because earlier in the show, I was ready to go to therapy today.

[Todd Fritz]

Yes.

[Marvin Prince]

I. Look, I'm not a. I don't. I'm very happy with where I placed.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah.

[Marvin Prince]

I'm super sus, though, on the. You're telling me that Marvin's arms are 3 inches longer than Paul's?

[Todd Fritz]

I don't believe that.

[Marvin Prince]

That's just seems. Yeah, that seems like a noticeable difference. Like, we would be able to see that when everyone's standing next to each other.

[Todd Fritz]

Marvin used to be a backroom guy, and maybe there is a home court advantage with somebody in the back room

[Marvin Prince]

to get a friendly measuring team.

[Todd Fritz]

I'm. I didn't see the measurements. I only did mine. I did what I was required to do. I stripped down, took off all my clothes, and then I let them measure me.

[Ana Navarro]

Me.

[Todd Fritz]

Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin's Wife]

I venmoed Ray a hundred dollars. But that was for fantasy football. That had nothing to do with this.

[Todd Fritz]

Okay. All right. But congratulations. Marvin has the longest arms of the Dan Patrick Show.

[Marvin Prince]

Allegedly.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah. George. George Pickens, as expected, got the franchise tag from the Dallas Cowboys. See make just under 30 million.

[Paul Pabst]

They estimate it for wide receivers to be a little over 28 million this season.

[Todd Fritz]

28 million this season. Are you not going to be happy about this? This to me feels like it's not over with George Pickens and the Cowboys. By the way, draftkings just sent me odds for NFL Coach of the Year odds for Defensive Player of the Year odds for NFL Offensive Player of the Year year. I didn't ask for it, but I got it. Jameer Gibbs is the favorite for Offensive Player of the Year. The best non quarterback then Jamar Chase, Bijan Robinson, Puka Nakua, Christian McCaffrey, NFL defensive player of the Year odds. Miles Garrett with a large margin over Micah Parsons, Max Crosby, Aiden Hutchinson, Will Anderson Jr. III. NFL coach of the Year odds. Anybody want to take a guess? The leading candidate. NFL Coach of the Year odds according to DraftKings. Todd. I'm gonna say Sean Payton. How about that? I think the Broncos are gonna. Okay, that means you don't know the other coaches. Why can't I say Sean Payton? Well, because it's your Broncos. He's not on the list. Marvin.

[Marvin's Wife]

John Harbaugh.

[Todd Fritz]

John Harbaugh is correct.

[Robert Ori]

That's a great one.

[Todd Fritz]

It's not great because they're gonna win three more games than last year. So he's gonna be. They might be. They might be this year's Patriots.

[Robert Ori]

They're gonna win seven games.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah.

[Marvin's Wife]

Yeah. But Sean Payton is to me a bad guess because they went to the AFC Championship game. So you're not going to give him Coach of the Year for doing something he was supposed to do.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah. Jesse Minter is second on the list. Joe Brady third on the list. And then it's Robert Salah. That's one.

[Marvin's Wife]

Everybody's big on the Titans of Robert

[Todd Fritz]

Salah for some reason. Why is that such a. They think he's gonna all of a

[Marvin's Wife]

sudden work wonders immediately in Nashville.

[Todd Fritz]

They're called BS on that.

[Marvin's Wife]

I don't know why I picked Sean

[Todd Fritz]

Payne when they didn't kick the field goal to go up 10 nothing with a backup quarterback. So that was a silly.

[Paul Pabst]

Wow.

[Todd Fritz]

It was a silly suggestion.

[Robert Ori]

Wow.

[Todd Fritz]

Bad prediction. Why don't you let it go, Todd?

[Marvin's Wife]

I'm never gonna let that go.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah, let it go. Let it go. Let's see Sean in Indianapolis. Hi, Sean. What's on your mind?

[Caller or Guest]

I feel Bad for Marvin in the wintertime. Sleeves too short, gloves too big. I was gonna ask you guys with the biggest shot on the line in

[Robert Ori]

NBA, who do you want?

[Caller or Guest]

Reggie, Larry, Robert Ori, Ray Allen, or Steph Curry?

[Todd Fritz]

I'm gonna take larry. Larry. I take larry. I probably take reggie. Second, I. And there's no wrong answers, but I have seen them hit big shots. Steph hits a lot of threes, but I've seen Reggie in a big moment. Ray in a big moment. Larry, there's no wrong answer in there, but I can't include myself right? Is that. I think that's what was said here. Becca in Charlotte. Hi, Becca. What's on your mind?

[Ana Navarro]

Hi, Dan.

[Caller or Guest]

How are you?

[Todd Fritz]

Great, great, Becca. Great.

[Caller or Guest]

Dan, I'm getting married tomorrow.

[Todd Fritz]

Okay.

[Caller or Guest]

And my fiance is the biggest fan of you. I actually was going to write you a letter asking you to ordain our wedding or officiate it. I'm sorry, but I thought my fiance be more excited about you than me in that day, so unfortun. Dan, I didn't write you that letter, but wanted to do two things. First, crazy, wild, goofy. If you guys want to come down to Charleston, South Carolina tomorrow for a wedding you guys are all welcome to. And part two, I just wanted to see if you had any advice. I know that you and your wife have an amazing marriage. I've heard all about it through my fiance. So one to see. Any advice for a couple who's about to get into marriage?

[Todd Fritz]

Well, thank you for the invite. Kind of short notice, Becca, but. But we do appreciate that it. It feels like a faux invite, in my opinion. I mean, day before they know we can't make it. Hey, but I'm thinking about. Hey, I was going to write you a letter. I don't know. There seems to be a pattern here, Becca. And I'm. I'm worried about that for your fiance. But this is what I'll tell you. And this is what I tell my kids. You fall in love, you stay married because you like each other other. And you have to enjoy being around each other. And. And a lot of people look at me like, well, of course I like her. Of course I like him. Okay. When maybe the love isn't as strong or the attraction it's about, do you like being around each other? And as long as you like being around each other, you have conversation, you go for a walk, you go to dinner. Nothing more painful for me when I see a couple at dinner and they're not talking to one another. Yeah, I. I hate that feeling. I wish I had more those moments with Todd where he didn't talk when we were at dinner. But we're not a couple anymore. Not anymore, no.

[Marvin's Wife]

But we had some good times.

[Todd Fritz]

We did. We had some.

[Marvin's Wife]

It sounds delicious eating there.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah. But, Becca, good luck. We're all counting on you. And tell your fiance thank you for listening to the program. All righty. This day in sports history.

[Paul Pabst]

Paul, a quick one. 2003. Michael Jordan, the first 40 year old to score 40 in the NBA.

[Todd Fritz]

All right, so he's the first 40, 40 guys. All right. Okay. He was conseco. Let's go around the room. What we learned on the program. Todd, you learn anything tonight?

[Robert Ori]

I did.

[Marvin's Wife]

In an awkward moment, Marvin got caught by his wife in the living room

[Todd Fritz]

watching the combine get out of the gutter. Seaton, what'd you learn today?

[Marvin Prince]

Marvin's arms are abnormally longer than all of ours.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah. Marvin, what did you Learn today?

[Marvin's Wife]

I'm 2 inches longer than everyone.

[Todd Fritz]

Paulie, what did you learn today?

[Paul Pabst]

Redemption day for Marv.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah, it is. It's going to be an incredible weekend for Marvin. You're going to wrap your long arms and small hands around your wife.

[Marvin's Wife]

Come on now.

[Todd Fritz]

Yes.

[Marvin Prince]

The average male has an arm about 30 inches long.

[Todd Fritz]

A lot of fun this week. Hope you enjoyed. Have a great weekend. We'll talk to you on Monday.

[Dan Patrick]

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