Hour 3 - Daniel Jeremiah

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Patrick Show - Hour 3 with Daniel Jeremiah
Release Date: July 29, 2025

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Introduction

In the third hour of The Dan Patrick Show, host Dan Patrick and co-host Max Chavkin welcome Daniel Jeremiah, a former NFL scout and current NFL Network analyst. The discussion delves deep into the upcoming NFL season, quarterback rankings, team strategies, and emerging player dynamics.

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Current NFL Analysis

Quarterback Rankings

The conversation kicks off with an evaluation of quarterback performances and rankings. Max Chavkin poses the question, "Is Baker Mayfield a top five NFC quarterback?" (27:30). Daniel Jeremiah responds by assessing Mayfield's consistency and comparing him to peers:

Daniel Jeremiah [28:46]: "I would go, Jalen, Baker, Kyler."

He further discusses the challenges of ranking quarterbacks based on team performance versus individual talent, highlighting Jalen Hurts' adaptability and fit within his team structure.

Team Assessments

The hosts analyze various NFL teams' prospects for the season. The Cleveland Browns are scrutinized for their offense and defense balance:

Daniel Jeremiah [33:23]: "I think the defense has a chance to be good, but that doesn't make them less boring."

He expresses skepticism about the Browns' entertainment value despite potential defensive improvements.

Draft Prospects

The discussion shifts to upcoming draft picks and their potential impact. Daniel emphasizes the importance of evaluating rookie quarterbacks:

Daniel Jeremiah [34:52]: "I would say that it's. They're both, I would be shocked if, if both of them didn't end up with a quarterback in next year's draft."

This highlights his focus on quarterback depth and how teams might prioritize this position in future drafts.

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Player Focus: Shador Sanders and Travis Hunter

A significant portion of the hour is dedicated to analyzing the versatility of emerging players Shador Sanders and Travis Hunter. Max Chavkin draws parallels to historical players who have excelled on both offense and defense:

Max Chavkin [05:23]: "This is really unheard of. Now, you've had Dion played offense and defense, a little bit of offense, but for the most part, Travis Hunter has kind of flown under the radar."

Daniel Jeremiah commends Travis Hunter's ability to impact the game on both sides of the ball, comparing his potential to legendary two-way players from past decades.

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Audience Engagement: Poll – "Jacked vs $250k"

Engaging the audience, the show features a playful poll asking listeners whether they would prefer to be "completely jacked" or have "$250,000." The discussion reveals personal preferences and the challenges of maintaining fitness:

Todd Fritz [08:43]: "I would take being jacked over a quarter of a million dollars. Oh, I'm being honest."

The segment adds a lighthearted break from the intense sports analysis, showcasing the hosts' camaraderie and relatable preferences.

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Listener Calls: Music Debate – Beatles vs. Others

Interspersed with sports talk, the show entertains listener calls debating the greatness of the Beatles compared to other bands. A notable exchange includes:

Ian Pfaff [15:27]: “I think Dominican. Called in once before. She might be a voiceover artist.”

Ian Pfaff [16:01]: “The Beatles are so overrated. I'll take the Rolling Stones over the Beatles any day of the week.”

The hosts engage in a spirited discussion about the Beatles' legacy, their musical innovation, and how they compare to contemporaries like the Rolling Stones and Billy Joel. This segment adds a cultural dimension to the show, appealing to a broader audience.

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NFL Strategy: Chargers' Offense Under Jim Harbaugh

A deep dive into the Los Angeles Chargers' offensive strategy under head coach Jim Harbaugh reveals tactical shifts aimed at optimizing quarterback Justin Herbert's performance:

Daniel Jeremiah [36:48]: "If they're willing to do that and Herbert can, you know, add that a little bit of that Josh Allen element to his game."

Jeremiah suggests that Harbaugh is experimenting with leveraging Herbert's athleticism to enhance the Chargers' offensive versatility, potentially making them a more formidable team.

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Closing Thoughts

As the hour winds down, the hosts summarize their key takeaways from the discussion:

Daniel Jeremiah [39:21]: "I just don't think that's as much of a draw anymore. You know, if that were the case, he'd probably be playing for LSU right now."

Reflecting on player motivations and team decisions, Jeremiah underscores the complexities behind player-team alignments and draft choices.

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Conclusion

Hour 3 of The Dan Patrick Show offers a comprehensive analysis of the NFL landscape, enriched by Daniel Jeremiah's expert insights. From quarterback evaluations and team strategies to engaging audience interactions and cultural debates, the show delivers a multifaceted exploration of sports and beyond. Listeners gain a deeper understanding of the upcoming NFL season's dynamics, the evolving roles of key players, and the intricate balance between individual talent and team performance.

Notable Quotes:

• Max Chavkin [05:23]: "This is really unheard of. Now, you've had Dion played offense and defense, a little bit of offense, but for the most part, Travis Hunter has kind of flown under the radar."

• Daniel Jeremiah [28:46]: "I would go, Jalen, Baker, Kyler."

• Ian Pfaff [16:01]: "The Beatles are so overrated. I'll take the Rolling Stones over the Beatles any day of the week."

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Listening Information

To catch the full episode and more in-depth discussions, tune into The Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio or through the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or your preferred podcast platform.

Transcript

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[Max Chavkin]

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[Max Chavkin]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. It's the final hour on this Tuesday. Dan and the Danettes Dan Patrick show two days until we have football Thursday night NFL preseason, Lions, Chargers hall of Fame game. That'll be Thursday. Festivities started 7 Eastern on NBC and Peacock, which is where you'll find this show. Thank you for downloading the app and if you haven't, please do so. You can watch the program. And we say good morning to our radio affiliates around the country. Have a new poll question coming up. We will hear from Daniel Jeremiah, former NFL scout, now an analyst for NFL Network. He's been bouncing around a couple of camps so we'll get his thoughts on the upcoming season. 877-3-DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @dpshow and operator Tyler sitting by. He'll take your phone calls. Some of the headlines Ryan Sandberg, Rhino, passes away at the age of 65. The Cubs great Hall of Fame second baseman Deion Sanders discusses his cancer diagnosis. Bladder cancer. And he sounded energetic. He sounded good. Yesterday at his press conference. I always knew I was going to coach again. I never didn't realize I was going to coach again. I was always going to coach.

[Todd Fritz]

It was never in my spirit, in.

[Max Chavkin]

My heart that God wouldn't allow me to coach again. That's never thought like that. All right. I have the over under win total, although Dion's already won. But as far as his team, the over under from DraftKings on Colorado regular season win total over under five and a half for Dion. So no Shador, no Travis. There was a story yesterday, maybe the day before, and I think the mothership was at Jacksonville camp and Travis Hunter was with the defense. And then he left the defense and walked over and he wanted to get part. He wanted to take part with the offense. He asked if he could take part with the offense and he said, no, not right now. It's one of those stories that is been underplayed a lot. Shador Sanders has gotten more attention than a guy who was doing something that hasn't been done since, what, Chuck Bednar, when he played both ways back in the, what, 50s and 60s for the Eagles. I mean, this, this is really unheard of. Now, you've had Dion played offense and defense, a little bit of offense, but for the most part, Travis Hunter has kind of flown under the radar. Now he's with Jacksonville. You know, you win the Heisman, it's a big deal. Shador Sanders got more attention just because of his name. I don't even know if he's going to play this year. I don't know how much he'll play now. Do I think he'll start a game at least? Yes, I do. But Travis Hunter is doing something remarkable. Now. There's a former player who told me this, and he played wide receiver. He didn't want to attach his name to it. And he said, Because I said, you know what? How would you deal with Travis Hunter? And he said, I would make sure that offensively we worked him. So when he played offense, he's tired like I, he's. He's going to play defense and he's going to be playing most of the plays on defense. But when he is covering me or a teammate, like we're going in his direction because it's. Now, granted, he might be great, but we want to go, we want to make sure that he's not going to hurt us on both sides of the ball. And although I don't want to go there where he is and challenge him, but I do want him in the play to make sure that I'm, I'm going to have him not as explosive on the offensive side of the ball, I said, okay, I wouldn't have seen it that way. But he said, if he's going to play both ways, let's say he plays 30% of the offensive plays we want to make sure that when he goes and. And he's going to get ready to go out for a pass that, you know, we. We've already worked him a little bit, be physical with him and, you know, that that might be a way to kind of curb how impactful he can be on both sides of the ball. All right, Seaton poll question for the final hour of the program is what?

[Marvin]

Yeah, right now we've got up there. Would you rather have 250k or be completely jacked, is the saying.

[Max Chavkin]

Okay, Todd used to be jacked. He did.

[Todd Fritz]

I missed those days. And therefore I would take big jacked over the quarter of a million dollars. Oh, I'm being honest. Yeah.

[Max Chavkin]

So if I had $250,000 or I could magically transform you to when you look like a steroided Mark Ruffalo.

[Todd Fritz]

It was nice to be checked out and be accused of at the gym of taking steroids. And you get a little whistle or an extra look from a girl or someone honks their horn as they're driving by.

[Max Chavkin]

Wait, wait. Girls whistled at you?

[Todd Fritz]

There's a couple of little, you know, there was a couple of honks and winks and maybe whistle. I might have exaggerated that a little bit. But there were times when, you know, you're walking around the neighborhood or you. You leave the gym and you're all shiny from sweat from a good pump and you're being, you know, out of the corner of some people's eyes or at least you think that someone's checking you out and was impressed with your physique.

[Max Chavkin]

But you could do that now at.

[Todd Fritz]

A much, much lower level.

[Ian Pfaff]

Maybe.

[Todd Fritz]

I lost £40.

[Max Chavkin]

I can. But you could. You could do it.

[Todd Fritz]

I could, but it's a lot easier when you're a teenager and, and you know, you're not married with kids. Not to make excuses, but you have more responsibilities and you can't just spend your life at the gym and. Ah, that's the problem.

[Marvin]

Your busy schedule.

[Max Chavkin]

Yeah, yeah. What. What is that schedule? That's the problem. So there's no kids at home watching.

[Todd Fritz]

Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortun.

[Ian Pfaff]

Dateline.

[Max Chavkin]

You didn't. Todd, you didn't have the kids, like, physically, like, you didn't deliver them. I'm just letting you know that is true. And they're not home it anymore.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah. There's no excuse other than that, you know, metabolism issues and liking to eat a snack late at night and not working out the way I used to.

[Max Chavkin]

Work out, all those are so those are choices. Yeah.

[Todd Fritz]

Those are choices, but I think at 50.

[Max Chavkin]

50.

[Todd Fritz]

What am I now, 55.

[Max Chavkin]

What about 250K? Or you're jacked.

[Marvin]

I'm taking the 250K.

[Max Chavkin]

All right.

[Marvin]

Close.

[Max Chavkin]

Marvin, 250K? Yeah. Paul, 250K. I could work out more. Yeah. 200. 250. Yeah. I don't care if I'm jacked.

[Marvin]

Yeah. I'm like three months away. Give me three months and I could be in pretty good shape. I don't even know where I would find $250,000.

[Max Chavkin]

But could you be jacked, though?

[Marvin]

As jacked as this frame would allow me, yeah. Yeah, I could do that.

[Max Chavkin]

Yeah. Paulie. It's tough, though, at a certain age to put in that many hours at the gym to get jacked in shape. And jacked are really. Yeah, I don't want to be jacked.

[Marvin]

What is the line, then? I'm. I'm not exactly a bodybuilder. So what is the threshold for then one becomes.

[Max Chavkin]

Then jacked.

[Marvin]

I would say more so the hours.

[Max Chavkin]

You put in that you have in the data. Okay. Would you rather look like Tom Brady's body? Lean. Jacked. Lean or 250k? You look. Look good on a yacht with your shirt off. Yes.

[Todd Fritz]

Marvin, 250k. I could look like Tom Brady by Notre Dame game.

[Max Chavkin]

You could. Will you. Did I just. Are you saying you're going to look like Tom Brady by the. By the Notre Dame USC game?

[Ian Pfaff]

Like lean?

[Max Chavkin]

Yeah.

[Todd Fritz]

In shape.

[Max Chavkin]

I'm in. Okay, good. All right, I'm rooting for you. October, what?

[Todd Fritz]

15Th.

[Max Chavkin]

All right. Yes. Todd, is this also one of those.

[Todd Fritz]

Deals with the devil? Because then you could all of a sudden magically make me jack, but then I have to maintain that unless that's part of the deal, that you'll forever look like that. Is that in a matter of weeks or months? I.

[Max Chavkin]

How do you find. How do you find the negative?

[Todd Fritz]

Because you can wave your wand and I look like that, and then I just let it go to crap. And I could have had a quarter million dollars.

[Max Chavkin]

Okay.

[Todd Fritz]

Because I didn't work out hard.

[Max Chavkin]

How about this? You're permanently jacked. The rest of the.

[Todd Fritz]

I'll take the jacked.

[Max Chavkin]

Okay. Yes. Yes.

[Marvin]

Okay. What if we figured out Marvin just threw out the Notre Dame game? We could even go one further than that to the. I think in November, perhaps a Las Vegas situation.

[Max Chavkin]

Okay.

[Marvin]

That gives us another little bit of a little time frame there. So that would give us essentially August, September, October, and then whatever is left of November.

[Max Chavkin]

Right.

[Marvin]

Sales Is in the building today. What if we can sell some type of competition amongst the group here of. Is it a body fat percentage that we lose? Is it a. What's the way to. Not everybody has a threshold of weight to lose. How do you balance that out to then say this would be the winner. We're calling it the Jacked Off.

[Max Chavkin]

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[Todd Fritz]

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[Marvin]

Yeah. Planet Fitness, the Dan Patrick show. Jacked off.

[Max Chavkin]

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[Todd Fritz]

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[Max Chavkin]

Yeah, we can look at that. We can.

[Marvin]

I think we can.

[Max Chavkin]

Yeah, we.

[Marvin]

I think we can look into that. Heading right into the new year where everybody, you know, once January 1st hit, everybody's trying to get in shape. We're already shredded.

[Max Chavkin]

Screw you guys. Okay, we can talk to sales today. We're having lunch with them.

[Ian Pfaff]

We are.

[Marvin]

Yeah.

[Max Chavkin]

I'll let you bring up the. The title of the sponsor.

[Todd Fritz]

Want to get that winter body when you have. You're covered in all those layers where everybody can check out your six pack.

[Max Chavkin]

Thank you, Todd. Eric in Atlanta. Hi, Eric. What's on your mind today?

[Ian Pfaff]

Hey, Dan. I heard you guys were talking music earlier and the band Jethro Toll came up and had a little question for Todd. Wonder if he had ever heard of Jenna Tolls.

[Max Chavkin]

Thank you. Thank you, Eric. Have you heard of that band Todd?

[Todd Fritz]

I have not, actually. Yeah, I would check them out, though.

[Max Chavkin]

I think you do.

[Todd Fritz]

Guilty as charged.

[Max Chavkin]

Tim in Ohio. Hi, Tim.

[Ian Pfaff]

Hey, Dan. Thanks for taking my call. Yeah, I just want to start out by saying I love Todd so much, but today has been just a prime example of the duality of Todd. I started out totally on Todd's side. He always gets berated. I always feel a little bad for him. But then he started with the Beatles takes and yeah, it's just been tough. But my only criticism that I want to point out is Todd keeps referencing the Beatles first record whenever he talks about their lyrics. Meanwhile, Billy Joel's best song is a song about a guy singing a song. So playing a song. But yeah. Love you guys. Thanks for taking my call.

[Max Chavkin]

All right. Thank you, Tim. Yeah, the lyrics with the Beatles, they certainly evolved in their music. Evolved too. So just saying that. And they did so quickly. Dominica in Charlotte. Hopefully I've got that name right. Domenica.

[Ian Pfaff]

Yes, you did get a correct. Good afternoon, gentlemen. Listen to me. Thank you, Todd. Someone had to say it. Okay, I get the first wave of the Euro thing and all of that, but the Beatles are so overrated. I'll take the Rolling Stones over the Beatles Any Day of the week. I couldn't stand the voice and the way they sing. And I, you know, I just. I. I can never get into it, and I've honestly tried. I can't get into it.

[Max Chavkin]

Okay, how old are you?

[Ian Pfaff]

I'm a Gen Xer, so I'm not completely glib when it comes to rock and roll.

[Max Chavkin]

Okay, but are you taking Billy Joel and hauling Oates over the Beatles as well?

[Ian Pfaff]

Oh, oh, abso freaking lutely. I'll take Fleetwood Mac over the Beatles.

[Max Chavkin]

Okay. So the age has something to do with this. Not really experience what Beatlemania was. And, yeah, I mean, they made headlines. They were. They were the biggest band in the world by far for, you know, quite some time. Even after they were done, they were still the biggest band. But I. I appreciate the opinion and the enthusiasm. And you've got a big fan in Fritzi there, so thank you. Dominica.

[Marvin]

Yes, I think Dominican. Called in once before. She might be a voiceover artist.

[Max Chavkin]

Sounds like she's.

[Marvin]

That's a strong voice.

[Max Chavkin]

Use that voice before.

[Marvin]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Max Chavkin]

Kind of felt like she was trying to outvoice me a little bit there.

[Marvin]

And did pretty well. Just saying. She was bringing heat.

[Max Chavkin]

Yeah. But then she was mocking their voices, you know.

[Marvin]

Hey, you showing a range of what she can do with.

[Max Chavkin]

Okay. All right. All right. Yeah. Todd's. Todd's got a. An admirer there.

[Todd Fritz]

Is it possible that it's one of those. You had to be there groups, the Beatles? Like, I could have got swept away, I guess, in the 60s with this. Who are these new people that just got off the plane from Europe and they're out in their hairdos and they're singing a different kind of music? Maybe I would have got it.

[Max Chavkin]

I wasn't alive, you know, when Elvis first came onto the scene.

[Todd Fritz]

I was into Fernando Mania. I was like a little kid. I was like, whoa. Fernando Mania. Beatlemania, not so much.

[Max Chavkin]

I can't help you. Like, I can't. You know, that's. That's where there's no reason to argue this. I truly can't help you understand great music. I can't. I've tried.

[Todd Fritz]

Well, I'm tone deaf and I don't know how to rhyme, so you gotta.

[Max Chavkin]

Well, you're right. You are. You. You can't stay on pitch. You don't stay on time. Yeah, you're a little tone deaf.

[Todd Fritz]

That being said, the Beatles are very over it.

[Max Chavkin]

Well, they might be overrated because they're. They're so magnanimous that. Yes, Maybe they're. They don't live up to everything that you would think or they should, or, you know, how they're, you know, hailed.

[Todd Fritz]

And different and unique doesn't always mean great. It just means different and unique doesn't. You know, you're not all of a sudden amazing because you're doing something or sounding different than we're used to. It doesn't make it great. Just makes it different.

[Max Chavkin]

They gave us a sound and then they added onto the sound over and over and over. What music, what instruments, how they recorded. They didn't go on the road. They just did studio albums. We'll talk about them more than any other artist for the rest of our.

[Todd Fritz]

Lives because we think we're supposed to.

[Marvin]

We've kind of been forced into doing or pressured into saying the Beatles are the best.

[Todd Fritz]

People will think I don't understand music or appreciate. But you don't.

[Max Chavkin]

Springsteen.

[Todd Fritz]

That's how people.

[Max Chavkin]

You don't. Do you realize how many songs Springsteen's written? Do you realize how many different types of music he's written?

[Todd Fritz]

I'm not talking about the music that's gone to 138 boss concerts.

[Max Chavkin]

He's toured the world. He what? He's there. It's unfathomable what he's done.

[Todd Fritz]

What is touring the world be like? I'll give the shout out to the pilots that flew them all over the world. They could get credit. Anyone can fly.

[Max Chavkin]

Demand for it. Todd.

[Todd Fritz]

That's because there are people.

[Max Chavkin]

You don't just fly there. They have to show up when you get there.

[Todd Fritz]

I have to like Bruce Brinks and everyone else does. I guess I'm supposed to like them. Let's go to Bruce Brigstey concert. Everyone else seems to be going. That's what happens. And that people become followers.

[Max Chavkin]

Hole and Oats can't even stay together.

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah, that's a little oats.

[Max Chavkin]

Hall hates oats.

[Todd Fritz]

Now you're. Now you're hurting my feelings.

[Max Chavkin]

Okay. Yeah, yeah. Billy Joel hadn't written a good song in 30 years.

[Todd Fritz]

You're getting way too personal.

[Max Chavkin]

Any song.

[Todd Fritz]

It's uncalled for.

[Max Chavkin]

He's been divorced three times. Oh, come on now.

[Todd Fritz]

It's got nothing to do with anything.

[Max Chavkin]

You may be wrong. You may be right.

[Todd Fritz]

Married a supermodel. Give him a couple of points. Didn't last very long. But it's.

[Max Chavkin]

Every musician goes out with a supermodel.

[Todd Fritz]

Because they're so handsome.

[Max Chavkin]

Okay, Gonna take a break and talk. Some football coming up here. Man, what a wild show. I can't Quit. I can't leave this. But I will. We'll take a break. We're back after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, we're Covino and Rich, Fox Sports radio every day, 5 to 7pm Eastern. But here's the thing. We never have enough time to get to everything we want to get to. And that's why we have a brand new podcast called Over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun in our two hour show. We never get to everything honestly, because this guy is over promising things we never have time for. Yeah, you blubberlips. Blaming me. Well, you know what it's called? Over Promise. You should be good at it because you've been over promising women for years. Well, it's a Covino and Rich after show and we want you to be a part of it. We're gonna be talking sports, of course, but we're also gonna talk life and relationships. And if Rich and I are arguing about something or we didn't have enough time, it will continue on our after show called Over Promised. Well, if you don't get enough Covino and Rich, make sure you check out Over Promised and also uncensored, by the way, so maybe we'll go at it even a little harder. It's gonna be the best after show podcast of all time. There you go. Over Promising. And remember, you could see it on YouTube, but definitely. Join us Listen to Over Promised with Covino and rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies.

[Danielle Robaix]

I'm Danielle Roubais and this is bookmarked by Reese's Book Club, the new podcast from hello Sunshine and I Heart Podcast. Every week I sit down with your favorite book lovers, authors, celebrities, book talkers and more to explore the stories that shape us on the page and off. I've been reading every Reese's Book Club pick, deep diving booktok theories and obsessing over book to screen casts for years. And now I get to talk to the people making the magic. So if you've ever fallen in love with a fictional character or cried at the last chapter or passed a book to a friend saying you have to read this, this podcast is for you. Listen to Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Todd Fritz]

In our new podcast, Everybody's Business, we talk about the business news that concerns everybody.

[Stacey Vanek Smith]

From Bloomberg Business Week, I'm Stacey Vanek Smith.

[Max Chavkin]

And I'm Max Chavkin. Each week we unpack what is happening.

[Stacey Vanek Smith]

On Main street and Wall street, all the streets.

[Host 1]

WrestleMania has taken over the US economy.

[Max Chavkin]

Poetry that executives write on LinkedIn.

[Host 1]

A little actual magic in our underrated.

[Max Chavkin]

Story of the single greatest marketing campaign the music business has ever seen. I decided to ask people how they.

[Host 1]

Felt about the penny going away.

[Stacey Vanek Smith]

Listen to everybody's business wherever you get your podcasts.

[Host 1]

Sometimes it's hard to remember, but going.

[Max Chavkin]

Through something like that is a traumatic experience. But it's also not the end of.

[Host 1]

Your life that was my dad reminding me and so many others who need to hear it that our trauma is not our shame to carry and that we have big, bold and beautiful lives to live after what happened to us. I'm your host and co president of this organization, Dr. Lea Tritate. On my new podcast, the Unwanted Sorority, we wade through transformation to peel back healing and reveal what it actually looks like and sounds like in real time. Each week I sit down with people who've lived through harm, carried silence, and are now reshaping the systems that failed us. We're going to talk about the adultification of black girls mothering as resistance, and the tools we use for healing. The Unwanted Sorority is a safe space, not a quiet space. So let's lock in. We're moving towards liberation together. Listen to the Unwanted Sorority. New episodes every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Max Chavkin]

I was walking by and I saw on one of the monitors, the mothership was asking the question, is Baker Mayfield a top five NFC quarterback? Now, I'm not big on list rankings like that, but then I said to Paulie, I said, do you agree? Baker Mayfield, top five quarterback, nfc? I said, would you take him over Jordan Love? You said, yeah. Would you take him over Dak Prescott? No doubt. Okay. Baker's last two seasons, 41 touchdowns and 16 picks last year. Yeah, 40, you know. Would you take him over Jared Goff? Oh, man, no. Would you take him over Jalen Hurts? No. Would you take him over Matthew Stafford? Yes. Because of injury. Okay.

[Ian Pfaff]

Baker's reliable right now.

[Max Chavkin]

It's like he's at the point of career where we know what he is.

[Ian Pfaff]

I think he's 29.

[Max Chavkin]

It's all cleaned up. Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network analyst and co host of Move the Sticks podcast. He is a Chargers radio color analyst, former NFL scout, and he's at the Chargers camp today and was recently at the Titans camp inside. The NFL Network's training camp coverage continues today starting at noon Eastern. Let me start there. Daniel Baker Mayfield, top five NSC quarterback.

[Ian Pfaff]

Well, first of all, Dan, I think this is when, you know, the off season, you know, was too long, when it's like we've narrowed the list. Mayfield, is he a top three former Oklahoma quarterback who's played in the last 15 years? But golly, I'm having a run through all. Wait, who is all in this, in this discussion? I agree with every all the comps that were just made except Stafford. I would. They were in the same building at the same time not long ago. And you know, to me, I know Stafford was heard that time, but Stafford to me is just. He's more talented so even at this stage in his career. But yeah, he belongs up there in that in the nfc. But obviously the greater point, Dan, it's how lopsided the league is. Now stack him up with the afc. That's a long list on that side.

[Max Chavkin]

Okay, but is. Where does Baker rank in former Oklahoma quarterbacks in the last decade?

[Ian Pfaff]

Just. Just above Kyle. Well, we're gonna count. We can go back further. Does Troy Aikman still count as a no Oklahoma quarterback?

[Max Chavkin]

Okay. No.

[Ian Pfaff]

Okay. Yeah. Yeah, he's. He's up there. I would have him. Hypo would be below him. Sam Bradford is, you know, that's. That's debate in his prime before the injuries. I mean, that's a. That's a great. That's a great radio segment right now. Do that.

[Max Chavkin]

Okay. But Jalen Hurts. Is he the best Oklahoma quarterback in the last 10 years? Or do you put Kyler Murray or do you put Baker Mayfield? Let's just do those three.

[Ian Pfaff]

Yeah. No, I would go. So it's Baker, Tyler and then Jalen. I would go, Jalen, Baker, Kyler.

[Max Chavkin]

Okay. All right. I'm just not sure about Jalen Hurts. It's weird how you can be great in a Super bowl loss, great in a Super bowl win. I just don't know, is he a great quarterback or is he just the right quarterback for a great team?

[Ian Pfaff]

Yeah, I mean, that's tough to. It's tough to figure that. I will let you know though, Dan. We are in danger of Spencer Rattler throwing this back in our face after a big 2025.

[Max Chavkin]

What about Landry Jones? Or is he.

[Ian Pfaff]

But Hertz is. To your point, though, like, it. They're different, obviously totally different style players. And it just does feel like the. The rewind of the conversations on, you know, Brady with the early championships, which was like, how much is him? How much is it with the team? The point that, you know, that makes it challenging to me is with Jalen. I was talking about this the other day. If you were to go through like the great teams and you're going to have a draft off of their players, that to me is the fascinating discussion of, like, which pick would Jalen Hurts be off of the Eagles? Like, you know, just in terms of talent, he's probably not one of the three most talented players on that team. And you wouldn't say that about, you know, Josh Allen with the Bills would be the first pick. Mahomes with the Chiefs would be the first. First pick. You know, on and on you kind of go through that list. So that's where that, that's where that becomes a challenge.

[Max Chavkin]

Yeah, I think that's a great point. And, and look, these lists drive me crazy, but sometimes I have to acquiesce and go, okay, I'll do it. We're talking to Daniel Jeremiah, former NFL scout. He works for NFL Network, does a great job on their NFL draft coverage. You were at the Titans camp and it feels like, is Cam Ward officially the starting quarterback for the Titans?

[Ian Pfaff]

Yeah, I mean, I don't know if they've officially announced it, but it's clear and obvious when you go out there and watch him, he's the guy and he did some good things when I was there. He made some big time throws at a practice in the stadium the other day and you know, he's got a lot of ability. He's got a loose arm he can move around, which he's probably still going to need to do. I know they effort to really upgrade that offensive line, but it's still, you know, it's a little bit leaky. But I just, I was talking to their, their leadership there with the president, general manager. I said, you know, the kind of the cardinal sin in football in the NFL right now is you can't be bad and boring, Dan. Like you can be one or the other, but you can't be both. And this is going to keep them from being a boring team. They're going to be a fun watch, you know, with Ridley making some plays down the field and you know, Pollard's a good running back and now you've got an exciting quarterback. There's going to be turnovers, there's going to be some ugly moments. But I contend when you have a young quarterback, you're smart to try on that side of the ball because not all losses are the same. Rookie quarterback, if you're losing 28 to 27 or 28, 24 and he's, you know, showing some flags is a heck of a lot better than losing 13 to 9.

[Max Chavkin]

You know that that's part of the problem where like Carolina was bad and boring. I mean, Bryce is, is fun and showed glimpses last year and they're probably going to be better. And I look at the Cleveland Browns, they got Miles Garrett and I, but I don't find them entertaining. I don't know if people are going to, come on kids, we're going to go watch Miles Garrett today. They're kind of in, you know, no man's land. While we talk about their quarterbacks, they have two first round picks for next year that I don't know if it matters what they have this year because of those first round picks next year. So how do you assess Cleveland? Are they bad and boring as well?

[Ian Pfaff]

I think the defense has a chance to be good, but that doesn't make them less boring. So I do think they're in the boring category for sure. I don't know that I'm willing to put him totally in the bad category yet. And I think Flacco, even at this age, you know, he'll make him competitive, he'll make some plays. But I look at them, Dan, with those two, two first round picks you mentioned. And this year should be in my opinion about discovery. People don't want to hear that. But like I want to end the year. I'd like to know what I have in those two rookie quarterbacks, you know, at least, at least let them play a little bit. So I have some idea what I have before you go into a draft. So everybody. Yeah, the season hasn't even started yet. We talking about, let's, you know, we're going to, Joe Flacco is going to take us to the AFC championship game. And I'm like, you know, I don't really see that happening. But it would be a shame to get to this whole year for them to be kind of a right around or under 500 team and to not see those two rookies and not, you know, not know what you have going into year two.

[Max Chavkin]

Yeah, I think that certainly Shador is going to get a chance to play, probably start a few games as well, but more likely to use their two first round picks on a quarterback next year, the Rams or the Browns.

[Ian Pfaff]

I mean I would say, you know, if the quarterbacks live up to, you know, some of the, some of the love they're getting over the summer here for next year's quarterback class. Depending on who comes out, I would say that it's. They're both, I would be shocked if, if both of them didn't end up with a quarterback in next year's draft.

[Max Chavkin]

You are at Chargers camp and like we're seeing Jim Harbaugh make this a Michigan looking offense and they run the ball. Resigned Slater, they're, you know, they draft, they draft a running back, you bring in Najee, but their best offensive player is Justin Herbert. It, it's always, it's like J.J. mcCarthy. I didn't know how good he was at Michigan because he sort of de emphasized J.J. mcCarthy. Is Jim kind of de emphasizing Justin Herbert? I mean, he had his best year. Not statistically, but I think his, his quarterback rating was so it almost feels like. Is this Michigan 2.0 for the Chargers?

[Ian Pfaff]

Yeah, I think, you know, look, he protected the football until you got to the playoff game, unfortunately turned it over a little bit against the Texans. But I think the game plan is, you know, hey, maybe we can major in Clark Kent and minor in Superman and then, you know, make. That'll keep you fresh. And when we need you to kind of bust that out, we can do that. I mean, really, truthfully, it's what the Chiefs have done with Mahomes over the last couple years.

[Max Chavkin]

Yeah.

[Ian Pfaff]

Hasn't been really the driving force, that offense. So I think that's, that's part of it. But I was there last year at camp the day that Herbert. I believe it was his foot. He hurt his foot, then he missed a couple weeks of practice and then they didn't really use him much in the run game. But I mean, at the practice I was at and you. I was seeing like quarterback power and they were, they were some design quarterback runs where it was like, oh my gosh, like if they, if they're willing to do that and Herbert can, you know, add that a little bit of that Josh Allen element to his game. And he's a big, athletic strong guy and you saw with, with Andrew Luck and obviously he had Kaepernick with the, with the 49ers. I'm not saying it's going to be that level of volume in terms of running, but that could be an area of Herbert's game that they haven't really tapped into yet.

[Max Chavkin]

Yeah, I go back to his Rose bowl performance and I mean, his legs stood out to me when he was at Oregon in that game. And I don't know where coaches stand on having my quarterback run. You kind of hold your breath when Josh Allen runs because he's not running necessarily away from you, whereas Lamar and Kyler and some of those guys are avoiding contact. Can you. I mean, I would try to utilize Justin Herbert the way they do Josh Allen. I just wouldn't have him take on defenders like Josh does.

[Ian Pfaff]

Yeah, I mean, that would be preferable not to initiate contact, which Josh likes to do. But I, I mean, for, for the first couple years he was in the league and doing all the Charger games, I would always go down the field for warm ups and I'd always get a chance to talk with the opposing GM and other personnel buddies, and they would all say the same thing. Dan, it's just like, good night. I had no idea how big Justin Herbert is. Like, he is huge. And it's not, not much difference between him and Josh Allen size wise. They are both big, strong, sturdy guys. So I don't think it's something you want to do 10 times a game. But, you know, having that element even, even on zone reads and just having the threat of him as someone who could pull the ball.

[Max Chavkin]

Yeah.

[Ian Pfaff]

Now you've got Omarion Hampton, who is big and explosive and he can help the run game even if he's not necessarily carrying it.

[Max Chavkin]

Who's the worst team in the NFL right now?

[Ian Pfaff]

I don't, I'm curious to see what the, what the Saints end up looking like. You know, the Titans are going to be better, but I still think defensively, you know, they don't really have corners, they don't have edge rushes. I think they're going to give up a lot of points. Those would be the, those would be the two that would come to the top of mind.

[Max Chavkin]

And I know that Arch Manning hasn't played a full season at Texas, but if you're telling me that the Saints are on the clock with the number one pick, could you see Arch Manning deciding, I think he's staying another year after this, but if, if his hometown Saints are on the clock with the number one pick and he's had a very good year at Texas, you think Arch Manning would come out for that?

[Ian Pfaff]

I don't. I mean, everything seems to be what you're saying about him wanting to get another year and it's about having the long term success. And I, you know, as much as it'd be cool to play for your hometown team, I don't, I just don't think that's as much of a draw anymore. You know, if that were the case, he'd probably be playing for LSU right now.

[Max Chavkin]

Yeah, I think he's gonna, you know, because money's not the issue. Although if the Cleveland Browns are there staring at you, that might make me want to go back to play another year. Couple more years, I might go to grad school at.

[Ian Pfaff]

I've always wanted to be a dentist.

[Max Chavkin]

Great to talk to you. Thank you for joining us. I know you got a busy schedule and we'll be watching.

[Ian Pfaff]

Thanks, Dan. I appreciate you, buddy.

[Max Chavkin]

Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network analyst and their inside training camp coverage continues today starting at noon Eastern. Yeah. What Harbaugh is doing with the Chargers is fascinating because you have your best offensive player, but you're. You're not asking him to be your best offensive player. It's kind of, you know, Troy Aikman with the Cowboys, when you. You had Mike and you had Emmett, you're just asking Troy, when we need you, we need you to step up. J.J. mcCarthy at Michigan. That's why when scouts would talk about how good he was, I kept thinking, I. I just didn't see it. And, yeah, I still haven't seen it, but I'm fascinated to find out just how good he is. Is. The Vikings made a conscious, concerted effort that they were drafting a quarterback. Now, maybe they didn't think that Sam Darnold was going to perform as well as he did, but they moved on from him, moved on from Kirk cousins. And J.J. mcCarthy gets the call. But watching Justin Herbert, and he joins us on Thursday on the show. But it's. We don't need you to throw as much as you've thrown before. We just need you to be really good when we ask you to throw. Jim is about defense and run of the football. That's what he does. Let me see a couple of phone calls. Lisa in California. Good morning, Lisa. What's on your mind today? Good morning, guys.

[Ian Pfaff]

I just wanted to weigh in here. I firmly believe that the reason everybody tells Todd to suck it is because they would rather he suck it than sing it.

[Max Chavkin]

Wow.

[Marvin]

Wow. Lisa off the top rope.

[Max Chavkin]

Wow.

[Marvin]

And nobody even knew she was up there.

[Max Chavkin]

I. It. You know, with that voice, I thought it was going to be something really sweet and nice that I felt that one. Yeah.

[Marvin]

Rather him suck it.

[Todd Fritz]

That's gonna sting. That's gonna sting for a little while.

[Max Chavkin]

Lisa, how do you feel about that?

[Ian Pfaff]

Well, I think it's interesting you guys think I sound sweet. There's no sweet in my game.

[Max Chavkin]

Whoa.

[Ian Pfaff]

Boom.

[Max Chavkin]

Alrighty. Thank you, Lisa.

[Marvin]

All right, Lisa and Pandora step into a ring.

[Max Chavkin]

Who's coming out?

[Marvin]

My money is on Lisa for sure.

[Max Chavkin]

Yeah. Because, I mean, Pandora feels like a lover. Yeah.

[Marvin]

But she's out on the farm.

[Max Chavkin]

Yes.

[Marvin]

On the ranch. All day.

[Max Chavkin]

That is true. She's. She's out there probably wrestling cattle or something like that. That's Lisa in California. She's not playing.

[Marvin]

I said masseuse. You know, she's got strong hands.

[Max Chavkin]

Racy in Georgia. Hi, Tracy.

[Ian Pfaff]

Good morning, gentlemen. Including Fritzi. You know, I'm really pulling for y' all to get this DP show jacked off up in the air. And I thinking what could really help us, Perhaps some corporate sponsorship, you know, let's kind of imagine the first annual DP show, Jacked off, presented by Jiffy Lube. And then you could donate all your proceeds to local strike victims.

[Max Chavkin]

All right, well, thank you, Tracy. Yeah, we're trying to get maybe some, you know, GNC that would help us get jacked and, you know, and then we would have the competition of who's jacked off. You know, the jacked off competition.

[Marvin]

I think creatine is making a big comeback these days. So. Yeah, yeah, I think we get on the creatine.

[Max Chavkin]

All right. I like you parsing your words. Yes, I am. Yes, I am. While we're doing the jack off, as I'm, as I'm watching my career unfold right before me very eyes. Take a break here. We'll take, we'll take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learned. Last chance to say suck it. Back row right after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

[Stacey Vanek Smith]

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[Host 1]

For my heart podcasts and Rococo Punch, this is the turning river road. I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that meant. In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to 10 girls and forced them into a secret life of abuse. Why did I think that way? Why did I allow myself to get so sucked in by this man and thinking to the point that if I died for him, that would be the greatest honor. But in 2014, the youngest of the girls escaped and sparked an international manhunt. For all those years, you know, he was the predator and I was the prey. And then he became the prey. Listen to the Turning river road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Danielle Robaix]

Just like great shoes, great books take you places through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters. And you'll never forget, I think any good romance.

[Host 1]

It gives me this feeling of like butterflies.

[Danielle Robaix]

I'm Danielle Robaix and this is bookmarked by Reese's Book Club, the new podcast from hello Sunshine and I Heart Podcasts. Every week I sit down with your favorite book lovers, authors, celebrities, book talkers and more to explore the stories that shape us on the page and off. I've been reading every Reese's Book Club pick, deep diving book talk theory and obsessing over book to screen casts for years. And now I get to talk to the people making the magic. So if you've ever fallen in love with a fictional character or cried at the last chapter or passed a book to a friend saying you have to read this, this podcast is for you. Listen to bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Todd Fritz]

In our new podcast, Everybody's Business, we talk about the business news that concerns everybody.

[Stacey Vanek Smith]

From Bloomberg businessweek, I'm Stacey Vanek Smith.

[Max Chavkin]

And I'm Max Chavkin. Each week we unpack what is happening.

[Stacey Vanek Smith]

On Main street and Wall street, all the streets.

[Host 1]

WrestleMania has taken over the US economy.

[Max Chavkin]

Poetry that executives write on LinkedIn.

[Host 1]

A little actual magic in our underrated.

[Max Chavkin]

Story of the single great marketing campaign the music business has ever seen.

[Danielle Robaix]

I decided to ask people how they.

[Host 1]

Felt about the penny going away. Listen to everybody's business wherever you get your podcasts. Sometimes it's hard to remember, but going.

[Max Chavkin]

Through something like that is a traumatic experience. But it's also not the end of your life.

[Host 1]

That was my dad reminding me and so many others who need to hear it that our trauma is not our shame to carry and that we have big, bold and beautiful lives to live after what happened to us. I'm your host and co president of this organization, Dr. Lea Trittate. On my new podcast, the Unwanted Sorority, we wade through transformation to peel back healing and reveal what it actually looks like and sounds like in real time. Each week I sit down with people who've lived through harm, carried silence and are now reshaping the systems that failed us. We're going to talk about the adultification of black girls mothering as resistance and the tools we use for healing. The Unwanted Sorority is a safe space, not a quiet space. So let's lock in. We're moving towards liberation together. Listen to the Unwanted Sorority. New episodes every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Max Chavkin]

Oh, somehow we're at the end of the show. I don't know how we do it. Hope you had fun. Touched on a variety of topics today, as we always do. Get a couple more phone calls. Justin Herbert will join us on the program on Thursday. Marshall in South Carolina. Hey, Marshall, thanks for holding. What's on your mind today?

[Ian Pfaff]

Dp thanks for calling me back, man. I, I, I have a set of the the Day song, but I'm no Pandora and I'm no Lisa, so I just wanted to preface with that.

[Max Chavkin]

All right, here's Marshall in South Carolina with his version of the Stat of the Day jingle.

[Ian Pfaff]

I can hear it coming from the Milford man cave, and I've been waiting all morning for the state of the day.

[Max Chavkin]

Okay.

[Marvin]

Nailed it.

[Max Chavkin]

Marshall Waited over an hour to do that.

[Marvin]

Nailed it.

[Max Chavkin]

Thank you, Marshall.

[Marvin]

Nailed it.

[Max Chavkin]

Yeah. Sounded better than Phil Collins. David in Ohio. Hi, David. What's on your mind today, man?

[Ian Pfaff]

Dan, I don't know if I could top that, but I just want to maybe. I had enough faith, bet with Todd that my Pittsburgh Steelers will have more wins than his Denver Broncos this year.

[Max Chavkin]

Oh, that one's tasty. That's tasty.

[Todd Fritz]

Aaron Rodgers. What we do? Yeah, why not? Let's do it.

[Max Chavkin]

Okay. Pie to the face, David, Is that good?

[Ian Pfaff]

Yeah, yeah.

[Todd Fritz]

I'm ready. I'm ready to have the same number of wins. He gets the pie in the face.

[Max Chavkin]

Yes, he does. Eight and a half for the Steelers over under win total this year. Thank you, David. Mike in Cincinnati. Hi, Mike. What's on your mind today?

[Ian Pfaff]

Hi, Dan. Hey, thanks for this Herbert interview coming up on Thursday. I've never really heard him interviewed, so that should be really outstanding. I appreciate you for that. This Beatles thing. Now, let's get real. You and I are the same age. These guys came around and just changed everything with music. They threw the whole rhythm and blues thing out the window from Elvis and the blues thing, everybody else. And they started off with some rock and roll, but then they implemented orchestral music. They implemented sitars. The Sgt. Peppers album is the most unique album and probably the best album I've Ever heard in my life. So to compare hall and Oates and Oasis to the Beatles, are you crazy? It's not even fathomable. And I love the Stones, but what did they do? They did a lot of other people's songs, a lot of old Muddy Water, different guys like that. They did a lot of blues songs done by other guys. Zeppelin, great musicians. But you're right, Dan, that the Beatles just really did change everything like you talked about.

[Max Chavkin]

Yes. They changed fashion, hairstyle. I mean, there was a complete wave. And if you listen to the complexities of their music, I mean, it is. It. It's mind boggling to do that over an eight or nine year period and have that impact. I. I don't. I shouldn't be fighting a Beatles fight here. It's just I hope that one day that you have an educated ear that you understand just how great the Beatles were. That's all. They've done it all. Yes, Marvin.

[Todd Fritz]

So with the Beatles, it's objectively good music.

[Max Chavkin]

It's great music. Okay. Yes, absolutely. They started out as a boy band. You know, hold on a. Hold your hand and then they gave you Helter Skelter. Like just. Just try to process that in a span of what, six or seven years? Sergeant Peppers? I mean, golly, yes.

[Marvin]

Was there like pushback when the Beatles switched up like that? Because like, in. In. I feel like today we wouldn't be as willing for some artists to be like, wait a minute, now you want us to take you seriously as a band? You know, like the Beatles were sort of like a boy band. And now all of a sudden, then they were artists.

[Max Chavkin]

Oh, yeah. You know, yes, because it would be like Beyonce going country when Taylor Swift went pop. So, yeah, we, we, you know, tend to, you know, put the seat belt on you and say, you got to stay in that genre.

[Marvin]

You're supposed to stay in that one lane that you already had for yourself.

[Max Chavkin]

Yeah, stay in your lane. Stay in your lane. Jason in Virginia. Hi, Jason, line one. Marvin. Hey, Jace.

[Ian Pfaff]

Hey. Hey, what's going on, Danny? How you doing?

[Max Chavkin]

Good. What's on your mind, Jace?

[Ian Pfaff]

Oh, man, I've been listening to you forever. Front row, back row. Love you guys. But, Danny, I'm gonna tell you right now, I've never wanted to call in until you started ranting about Bruce Springsteen. I saw him in concert one time. Everyone said I had to go. A 15 minute story. No. Terrible.

[Max Chavkin]

Okay, thank you, Jason. I'm not into the storytelling. I'm not. When he got, you know, had that reverend type voice. I. I just. I want to hear the music, that's all. I don't need a story. I saw him on Broadway. It was wonderful. But, yeah, original cast. Yes, I did. I saw the original cast of Springsteen on Broadway. I would have called it Bruce on Broadway, but he called it Springsteen. Okay, fine. This day in sports history. Paul, do you have anything for. I'm gonna switch it up, Dan. To be on theme.

[Ian Pfaff]

This day in movie history.

[Max Chavkin]

1965, the Beatles movie help made its world premiere at the London Pavilion theater in the West End of London. Princess Margaret showed up for it. Hot. Yeah, that would describe Fritzi. Help. That's. That's. If there was one song, it would be helpful.

[Todd Fritz]

It helped me understand why the Beatles are so great.

[Max Chavkin]

Oh, my goodness. There's only so much I can do.

[Todd Fritz]

I know she loves you, and that can't be bad. You should be glad.

[Marvin]

Not sad.

[Max Chavkin]

Okay, are you done? Yeah, I'm done.

[Todd Fritz]

Because we're short on time. Normally, I would just continue and you know that. Can they.

[Max Chavkin]

They wrote a song. They wrote an album that made Brian Wilson go crazy. Brian.

[Todd Fritz]

Saying she loves you and you should be glad.

[Max Chavkin]

Do you know who Brian Wilson is?

[Todd Fritz]

Yeah, he's one of the Beach Boys.

[Max Chavkin]

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[Todd Fritz]

We need somebody.

[Max Chavkin]

Oh, no, no, not just anybody. I'm Ian Pfaff, the creator and host of the Uncle Chris podcast. My Uncle Chris was a real character, a garbage truck driver from South Carolina who is now buried in Panama City alongside the founding families of Panama. He also happens to be responsible for the craziest night of my life. Wild stories about adventure, romance, crime, history, and war intertwine as I share the tall tale and hard truths that have helped me understand Uncle Chris. Listen now to Uncle Chris on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever. You listen to podcasts.

[Danielle Robaix]

Just like great shoes, great books take you places through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget.

[Host 1]

I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies.

[Danielle Robaix]

I'm Danielle Robaix, and this is bookmarked by Reese's Book Club. The new podcast from hello Sunshine and I Heart Podcasts, where we dive into the stories that shape us on the page and off each week I'm joined by authors, celebs, book talk stars and more for conversations that will make you laugh, cry and add way too many books to your TBR pile. Listen to Bookmarked by Reese's Book club on the iHeartRadio app. Apple Podcasts are wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ian Pfaff]

So what happened at Chappaquiddick?

[Max Chavkin]

Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and.

[Host 1]

Left a woman behind to drown.

[Max Chavkin]

Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.

[Host 1]

Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that meant for my heart. Podcasts and Rococo Punch this is the Turning River Road. In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to 10 girls and force them into a secret life of abuse. But in 2014, the youngest escaped. Listen to the Turning river road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Stacey Vanek Smith]

From tips for healthy living to the latest medical breakthroughs, WebMD's Health Discovered podcast keeps you up to date on today's most important health issues. Through in depth conversations with experts from across the healthcare community, WebMD reveals how today's health news will impact your life tomorrow.

[Max Chavkin]

It's not that people don't know that exercise is healthy, it's just that people don't know why it's healthy. And we're struggling to try to help people help themselves and each other.

[Stacey Vanek Smith]

Listen to WebMD Health discovered on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Host 1]

This is an iHeart podcast.