Hour 3: Doc Rivers Steps Down & NFL Complainers

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Episode Summary

Hour 3: Doc Rivers Steps Down & NFL Complainers

Date: April 13, 2026
Participants: Brady Quinn, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox (hosting in for Dan Patrick)

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Episode Overview

This hour of The Dan Patrick Show shifts between sharp NBA and NFL analysis and the light-hearted sports radio banter fans expect. The trio unpacks Doc Rivers’ abrupt departure from the Milwaukee Bucks, the future of Giannis Antetokounmpo, the implications for the NBA head coach carousel, and the controversial NFL QB contract collusion investigation. The hosts blend humor, personal anecdotes, and sports nostalgia, with casual pivots to golf, old radio games, and the lighter side of sports culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Masters Recap & Golf Hijinks

• Who’s Hot, Who’s Not: Rory McIlroy clinches the green jacket, earning praise for overcoming adversity. Sergio Garcia’s meltdown and Hey-Tong Lee’s mishaps provide amusing talking points.
• Golf Toughness: Debris around Lee’s stomach issues and white pants at Augusta lead to locker room-style jokes about tournament endurance and etiquette.
• Event TV Critique: Some criticism of CBS’s coverage—key shots and dramatic collapses were missed, underscoring frustration with modern golf broadcasting.
  • “CBS is getting all sorts of heat because the coverage wasn’t great... They missed some shots... Like Rory’s last shot... people felt like they kind of butchered that.” – Brady Quinn (06:44)

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Doc Rivers Steps Down – Milwaukee Bucks Fallout [08:19]

• Doc’s Career in Focus:
  • Rivers’ longstanding NBA presence as both player and coach (27 seasons, five teams, ~.600 win percentage) is respected, but his latest stint in Milwaukee is deemed a mess.
  • “Doc has been a figure of longevity... do you guys realize he’s coached 27 seasons?” – LaVar Arrington (09:49)
• Where the Bucks Go Next:
  • Doc’s exit is potentially the end of his head-coaching journey, with calls for him to return to broadcasting.
  • Uncertainty over Giannis’s future—the consensus is Giannis is likely gone and the franchise will tumble into irrelevance for years.
  • “Their relevance is done for a really long time. Get comfortable with being uncomfortable with how bad your team is.” – LaVar Arrington (11:42)
• Front Office Blunders:
  • The questionable mid-season firing of Adrian Griffin (with a strong record!), and the failed dynamic with Damien Lillard, signal organizational dysfunction.

Notable Segment:

• [09:34] – “He’s going into the Hall of Fame this month, and he got fired this month. All in the same stroke of time, he’s won, and yet he’s lost. ...Induction into the Hall of Fame, that’s a big accomplishment.” – LaVar Arrington

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Giannis’s Uncertain Future

• Changing the Narrative: Debate on whether next head coach is chosen for Giannis or for a rebuild.
• Fan Reactions: Commentary on the “jersey burning” trend when stars leave, linking back to LeBron’s Cleveland departure and fan psychology.
  • “If you have a problem...and want to hate them or burn the jersey... go right ahead and be that moron. But that is very, very singular to you and your feelings.” – LaVar Arrington (12:20)

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NBA Nostalgia & “Pro Wrestler or Porn Star” [15:10]

• Spirited debate of old Bucks legends: Oscar Robertson, Ray Allen, Terry Cummings.
• Light-hearted radio nostalgia as Jonas revives his infamous “Pro Wrestler or Porn Star” name game, riffing through NFL player names that sound NSFW.
  • “These are legitimate NFL names!” – LaVar Arrington (18:39)
  • (“Dirty Harry” is, indeed, a porn star! [19:49])
• The game brings out running inside jokes about sports names and their potential for lowbrow humor, eventually pivoting back to more serious topics.

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NBA Player Longevity & LeBron Legacy [21:35]

• Age, Performance, & Shifting Expectations:
  • Comparison between Giannis and LeBron’s longevity, noting how LeBron reset standards for late-career performance.
  • “What LeBron does is not normal... he’s rewritten how we should look at the NBA, how we should look at greatness.” – LaVar Arrington (21:48)
• LeBron’s hype and pressure: Jonas Knox shares personal stories about witnessing LeBron’s rise from AAU youth circuits: “He was as advertised for as long as it’s been... the life he’s lived where there really hasn’t been any controversies...” (24:22)

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NBA Playoffs, WNBA Draft, and More [26:15]

• Playoff Odds & Scenarios:
  • Quick analysis of Lakers’ longshot odds vs. Rockets (Lakers +550 underdogs) (26:39).
  • Discussion of WNBA Draft, Jonas tips Azzi Fudd as a lock for Dallas Wings (#1 overall pick) at -575 (27:21).
    • “There you go... that’ll wrap up our coverage of the WNBA for 2026.” – Brady Quinn (28:18)

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NFL Collusion Ruling & Player Contracts [33:50]

• Background: Arbitration panel rules there's insufficient evidence teams colluded to block guaranteed QB deals in wake of Deshaun Watson’s contract, despite “improper” actions being noted.
  • “While the panel found that teams were, quote, being invited to participate in collusion...it ruled that there wasn’t enough evidence to prove teams took part.” – Brady Quinn (33:50)
• Skeptical Take: Hosts all but laugh at the ruling—everyone knows owners quietly agreed not to repeat the Watson deal.
  • “Of course they got together and had conversations about it. ...The fact that there’s been no deal like Deshaun Watson since tells you everything.” – Brady Quinn (35:02)
• Player Leverage & Future CBAs:
  • LaVar pushes for the NFLPA to target guaranteed contracts in the next bargaining round, noting “improper” might foreshadow a future legal challenge (38:29).
  • Also, government (DOJ) scrutiny on NFL media contracts and antitrust implications is discussed—hosts muse on whether the feds will ever seriously intervene or whether the league is just too powerful.

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“Leftovers” Segment – Sports Culture & Caleb Williams [46:17]

• Pop Culture Crossover:
  • Executive Producer Patrick Suica shares a viral story: projected Bears #1 draft pick Caleb Williams seen at Coachella with Kylie and Kendall Jenner. Social media erupts over the supposed Kardashian “curse.”
    • “He could be the kryptonite to the Kardashians... Iceman!” – LaVar Arrington (47:33)
  • Spirited debate about Bears season outlook: Vegas sets their win total at 9.5; the crew splits on whether to bet over or under.
  • “Would you feel different if he was hanging out with Caitlyn Jenner?” – Brady Quinn zings (49:12)

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Notable Quotes (w/ Timestamps)

• On Rivers’ Bucks Tenure:
  “[Doc Rivers has] been involved in the NBA since 1983. It’s crazy, man.”
  — Jonas Knox, (10:40)

• On Giannis’s Impact:
  “He gave you multiple MVP years. He gave you a championship, and he gave you a player that was worth turning on the television.”
  — LaVar Arrington, (12:20)

• On NFL Collusion:
  “Of course they got together and had conversations about it... The fact that there has been no deal like Deshaun Watson since... tells you everything you need.”
  — Brady Quinn, (35:02)

• On LeBron’s Greatness:
  “People are tired of his act... but LeBron has rewritten how we should look at the NBA, how we should look at greatness.”
  — LaVar Arrington, (21:48)

• On Player Name Games:
  “These are all NFL players... and I think it’s funny as hell.”
  — LaVar Arrington, (19:03)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• 08:19 – Doc Rivers’ Bucks Fiasco & NBA Head Coaching Carousel
• 11:42 – Prognosis for the Milwaukee Bucks Without Giannis
• 15:10 – Bucks Legends & “Pro Wrestler or Porn Star” Name Game
• 21:35 – NBA Player Longevity; LeBron’s Impact
• 26:15 – NBA Playoff and WNBA Draft Betting Odds
• 33:50 – NFL Collusion Panel Ruling, QB Contracts Analysis
• 38:29 – NFL Collective Bargaining & DOJ Involvement
• 46:17 – “Leftovers” Segment: Bears Rookie Caleb Williams and Jenner Sightings
• 48:46 – Bears’ Win Total Over/Under Debate (Vegas)

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Tone & Style

• The hosts blend sarcasm, inside jokes, and sports nostalgia.
• Conversational and loose, with quick shifts between analysis and comedy.
• Occasional self-awareness of the show’s antics and playful ribbing.

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Takeaways

• The episode delivers a well-rounded hour: insightful sports talk, pop culture crossovers, and plenty of lighthearted moments for fans of all stripes.
• Despite some sports cynicism, the hosts have real reverence for NBA history, player greatness, and the business behind the leagues.
• Radio games and locker room banter are alive and well—proving you can mix deep sports analysis with pure entertainment.

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[LaVar Arrington]

Mark.

[Brady Quinn]

He overcame the odds.

[LaVar Arrington]

Mark. Come on, Mark.

[Brady Quinn]

By the way, Sergio Garcia had a nice little meltdown. That was cool.

[Jonas Knox]

What did you snap a driver on something?

[Brady Quinn]

You know, just broke it against like a cooler that was sitting nearby. And yet a lot of those golf blowhards who are like, well, that's, that's, that's really frowned upon at Augusta National.

[LaVar Arrington]

It's kind of hard to talk tough about a, a topic when you have music like this playing. I'm just saying. Oh, just thought I'd make that clear.

[Jonas Knox]

The live golfers didn't, didn't show up very well. That was very apparent.

[Brady Quinn]

What about former LIV golfers, Brooks Koepka?

[Jonas Knox]

Well, that was lavar's second pick in our, in our hat draw and he, he was represented. He was out there playing well. Right, lavar?

[LaVar Arrington]

I did not. I was loyal to one and he, Fitzpatrick, he totally boned me. So it's all good. Thank you.

[Jonas Knox]

I had Hideki in there. He kind of came back a little bit. He was, started getting the mix.

[LaVar Arrington]

Okay. You know, Justin Rose, though, named it throw out there. 45 years old, relatable for you. Relatable old head out there doing his

[Brady Quinn]

thing, you know, what about the, was it. Hey, Tong Lee.

[LaVar Arrington]

See, you're, you're, you're burying the Lee here, though.

[Brady Quinn]

What?

[LaVar Arrington]

He finished third. Who at 45 years old.

[Brady Quinn]

Oh, Justin Rose.

[LaVar Arrington]

That's right. Hey, show some props to that. Like, quietly has been a steady achiever.

[Jonas Knox]

Maybe not a everyday house, though. He had a couple eventful holes.

[LaVar Arrington]

Dang.

[Jonas Knox]

By the way, he's awesome.

[LaVar Arrington]

What'd he do?

[Jonas Knox]

When you listen to his interviews and stuff, he is, he is so much fun.

[Brady Quinn]

Did you hear he spoke on Saturday that he I guess got a stomach illness or something like that and he

[LaVar Arrington]

was talking about how he ate at AJ's house.

[Brady Quinn]

Oh, no.

[LaVar Arrington]

He went and visited the in law.

[Jonas Knox]

You are just after all the linebackers today.

[Brady Quinn]

Oh,

[Jonas Knox]

those are your people.

[LaVar Arrington]

They are my people.

[Brady Quinn]

But hey, Tong Lee said that he had had issues and he was just throwing up and, and dropping bombs and then. And then he showed up. And Isaac Loinchron, our sports update anchor over the weekend, pointed out the gutsiest move all weekend was the fact that he dealt with the stomach issues and then rolled out in white trousers.

[Jonas Knox]

Not guts, buddy.

[Brady Quinn]

Dang.

[Jonas Knox]

There is no restrooms anywhere close to some of those holes.

[Brady Quinn]

Oh, no.

[LaVar Arrington]

So what do you have to do?

[Brady Quinn]

Tree?

[LaVar Arrington]

No way.

[Jonas Knox]

You better find some Depends.

[LaVar Arrington]

I mean, that's what it has to be, right? You can't. You can't go find a tree at Augusta, I would assume.

[Brady Quinn]

Why you bring dude wipes?

[LaVar Arrington]

That is. That is not appropriate.

[Brady Quinn]

Why not?

[LaVar Arrington]

Why? Because it's. It's a sophisticated place to be. I mean, even. Even the deer seen. Even the deer and the raccoons and the. And. And the chipmunks go off the site. They go off the greens, they go off of the rough and they go elsewhere to. To handle their business before they come back.

[Jonas Knox]

He was deep enough in the woods though, at one point. He easily probably could have. And no one would have seen him. Yeah, I mean, that's. There's a couple holes that got pretty, pretty dicey for him.

[LaVar Arrington]

Where his pants.

[Brady Quinn]

White.

[LaVar Arrington]

Yeah. It wasn't just white.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah.

[Brady Quinn]

Okay. White pants.

[LaVar Arrington]

Okay.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah. Ballsy, man. That's.

[Jonas Knox]

I mean, he could have looked like he sat down on a footsicle. It was not. It was not. Good guy. Yeah.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah.

[LaVar Arrington]

Well, it's really.

[Jonas Knox]

But Rory won again. He got another green jacket.

[Brady Quinn]

Good for Rory.

[LaVar Arrington]

How many green jackets does he have? 3.

[Jonas Knox]

2.

[Brady Quinn]

2. By the way, CBS is getting all sorts of heat because the coverage wasn't great. They missed some shots like, hey, Tong Lee's collapse. Not, not, you know, the, the. The defecating himself. The. Yesterday he had an awful couple of holes that you mentioned, and it was completely missed. Like Rory's last shot. Like people felt like that they kind of butchered that as well too. So cbs, I mean, it was.

[Jonas Knox]

I don't know why it was in hand. It was a very anticlimactic, you know, 18th hole. Unless he was going to completely fall apart, which I guess wasn't out of the question, but I don't know. Yeah, I didn't have a problem with it. I thought it was. Look, it was an eventful Sunday, for the most part, up until about the last few holes, where, you know, no one was going to catch him at that point unless he was going to fall apart and collapse. No one's going to catch him. And credit to Rory, you could tell he. He's figured it out because he doesn't make it easy self admittedly, but he's been able to figure out a way to step up some of these big moments.

[Brady Quinn]

What's the next big one? Is it the British Open? Is that the next big one or the. The Open Championship that you blow hearts, like to call it? What is it?

[LaVar Arrington]

Does anymore really matter? Huh? Like, almost like it's like the other majors matter. That's like. Seems like that's like the one that this one ends it, you know, like you keep playing it is what it is, but it's just kind of like it's not the same. Doesn't get the same type of attention, doesn't have the same type of lore. I don't know why. I mean, none of them have it for me, you know, who's.

[Jonas Knox]

Hey, we appreciate your participants on this top.

[Brady Quinn]

No worries, you know. You know, he's got plenty of time to golf moving forward. Oh, old Doc Rivers, dang. Yeah, I've got a whole bunch of time on his hands pulling into the dock. Yeah, that'll do. What an awful run.

[LaVar Arrington]

That'll do it for him in Milwaukee and maybe as head. As a head coach in the NBA, honest to God.

[Brady Quinn]

Why do you want to go back? He's a great broadcaster. He's got a ring.

[Jonas Knox]

He is.

[Brady Quinn]

He's got.

[LaVar Arrington]

Like.

[Brady Quinn]

He's a good player. Like, why. Why do you want to go deal with that crap? Go be a broadcaster. He's great at it. There's opportunities out there. You can make a good L and not have to deal with any of this crap that we was having to deal with with Giannis and all the rumors and are they shutting him down? Are they not? Sham Sharani, apparently he's got a. Got an ax to grind with Doc Rivers and the Bucks organization. Like, the whole thing is. It just didn't work at all for anybody there. Damian Lillard, like, none of it worked. And you just look back at their decision to fire Adrian Griffin when they did, and I think they were, what, 30 and 13 or something like that. They had a really good record and they decided to move on from him, and they've just gotten worse ever since. And now they're probably going to lose Giannis in the off season.

[LaVar Arrington]

Do you realize that? Doc did the same thing that Q's kids did in those soccer games. What do you mean? One. One lost? One won the championship. Lost the championship.

[Jonas Knox]

Oh, yeah. He.

[LaVar Arrington]

He's going into the hall of Fame this month.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah.

[LaVar Arrington]

And he got fired this month. Yeah. So all in the same stroke of. Of time, he's won, and yet he's lost. He's lost, but yet he's won. I mean, induction into the hall of Fame, that's a big accomplishment. I mean, Doc has been a figure of longevity and not only being a player, but as a coach. I mean, do you guys realize he's coached 27 seasons?

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah.

[Jonas Knox]

Five different teams. I mean, he's almost got a.600 win percentage overall. So, I mean, it's not like he's, you know, he won it with the Celtics, obviously, but, I mean, he's been involved in the NBA since 1983.

[LaVar Arrington]

It's crazy, man. You know, as a long run, took

[Jonas Knox]

a few years off, but what feels like Doc Rivers has been around forever. He's like that answer that. A job comes open, people just go, doc Rivers. Like. Like, Doc can take it. He's like that safe candidate for any job that opens up, which is maybe how he found his way to Milwaukee. But it does beg the question, like, is the next hire purely contingent on what Giannis wants?

[Brady Quinn]

It feels like that ship has sailed. I. I don't know how you repair the relationship there between him and the front office, because one. One of the things, you know, they're like, people thought, well, maybe it's a Doc Rivers thing. And Doc Rivers told everybody, I get along great with Yanis. Like, it's not, you know, there's. There's. But I think the front office, their handling of him, the conversations they were having surrounding a possible trade, it just feels like it's run its course. And whoever is taking that job next, I would go in with the expectation that you're probably not going to have Giannis, that there. That there could be a deal done this summer, and most likely a deal done this summer.

[LaVar Arrington]

Their relevance is done for a really long time. Get comfortable with being uncomfortable with how bad your organization is or your team, your product.

[Brady Quinn]

By the way, isn't Aaron Rodgers still part owner of the Bucks? I think he's got a small stake in the team, so it's not great for him either.

[LaVar Arrington]

Just get comfortable with that, because this is a team that's going to have to find a new leader. They're going to have to find and build a culture. They're. They're going to have to find. Because I don't believe Giannis is coming back. There's no reason for him to come back at this point.

[Jonas Knox]

He's.

[LaVar Arrington]

He's exhausted. And you know what? I don't think people can be upset with him for not wanting to come back either. And if you have a problem with that and you want to hate them or do what fans have historically done, which is be a moron and burn the jersey, then you go right ahead and be that moron. But that is very, very singular to you and your feelings because the dude gave you multiple MVP years. He gave you some. He gave you a championship, and he gave you a player that was worth turning on the television or buying tickets to go see play in person. He. He's giving you all of that. And. And now what? You haven't been. You haven't been that good with the Bucks since what, like what? Lou Alcinder? Did Lou Alcinder even play for the Bucks? Maybe he did. Yeah, I think he did. Yeah.

[Brady Quinn]

I mean, I don't know about Jack Sigma.

[LaVar Arrington]

How about that?

[Jonas Knox]

Well, the betting favorite is Taylor Jenkins. He's a former, obviously Grizzlies head coach and he has got experience. Back when he was with Bulen Holzer staff, Milwaukee, that was the year Giannis won the mvp.

[LaVar Arrington]

One of the Jenkin boys.

[Jonas Knox]

So Taylor Jenkins, he's. Yet he's. So maybe that's the direction they go. Maybe he's able to because the prior relationship, if he was going to stay.

[LaVar Arrington]

Did they make a movie about Roscoe Jenkins and that Martin Lawrence?

[Brady Quinn]

Probably. I'm just joking now. Do you think that if there is a move and they do trade him, do you think people really will burn the jersey? I feel like that that sailed. And I would also say this for the. Like, I'm not saying that they were the originals when it came to burning jerseys. I think people have done it before, but I think full blame should go to. To Brady Quinn and Cav fans everywhere for burning LeBron's jersey.

[LaVar Arrington]

Yeah, that was bad.

[Brady Quinn]

That was pretty like you. You guys really started us down a path to where people thought that was the way to get a. I never

[Jonas Knox]

burnt any LeBron jersey. Let's just start off with that. I. I can understand why people had an emotional reaction because he went on national TV and despite raising what I believe to be over a million bucks for charity, basically just said, yeah, I'm taking my talents to south beach. So I can. I can understand their frustration when, you know, you live in the Midwest, you really look forward to sports, you really look forward to your favorite teams, your favorite players. And clearly the message was sent that he didn't want to be there anymore. Um, now he did come back and completely redeem himself the next time around getting a championship, but then did once again leave to go to brighter pastures out in LA and not necessarily leave the team in a great spot, even though now I think Cavs fans are excited about the roster they have, the team they have at this point.

[LaVar Arrington]

So they had Robertson, you know, Oscar Robertson. Great name, Big O. Sidney Moncrief. Great name in basketball.

[Brady Quinn]

Another name, Terry Cummings.

[LaVar Arrington]

Ray Allen. Yeah, Ray Allen played for Milwaukee Bucks. I forgot about that. Terry Cummins is a great name, bro. What a. That. That's another Iron Man. We've been talking Iron man on what's a great name? Terry Cummings is a great name in sports. Like, great, great person, great human being. Like, why you.

[Brady Quinn]

Why are you smirking?

[LaVar Arrington]

About what? What, Is there something I'm missing?

[Brady Quinn]

No, Terry Cummings is a great name.

[LaVar Arrington]

I mean, I was more in on him with, with the, the spurs, but, you know, I like Terry Cummings.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah.

[LaVar Arrington]

Play hard defense.

[Jonas Knox]

Jonas is segwaying into a segment he used to call pro wrestler or porn star,

[LaVar Arrington]

because he definitely is making these weird.

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[Brady Quinn]

Why am I getting the blame?

[LaVar Arrington]

Terry Cummings, porn star or real, real basketball player?

[Brady Quinn]

I don't think we need to. Pro wrestlers, pro wrestler. This is where things get gross and I. I just don't think you got problems.

[Jonas Knox]

No, this is like. Jonas knows that I know he knows that I know all about his little games.

[LaVar Arrington]

He went to a little dark place in his head. I could see it operating in his mind. Like his eyes went. Went in a different direction. His face was making different facial expressions.

[Brady Quinn]

Like, we don't.

[LaVar Arrington]

Went to a different place.

[Brady Quinn]

Jonas, we don't need to bring up one of the great game shows in the history of sports talk radio. Pro wrestler or porn star, what was

[Jonas Knox]

the name that you used? I don't think it was Terry. I don't think it was Terry. That wasn't his first name. But what did you use?

[LaVar Arrington]

Oh, no. So you actually used Terry Cummins?

[Brady Quinn]

No. There was, yes. Well, like, because here's the last name.

[LaVar Arrington]

Oh, God.

[Brady Quinn]

Like Johnny Depp. Like that. That was a good one.

[LaVar Arrington]

That was.

[Brady Quinn]

That was one of the more famous ones.

[LaVar Arrington]

Johnny Depth.

[Jonas Knox]

Why would that be viewed as anything other than an adult film star? How would that be viewed as a pro wrestler?

[Brady Quinn]

I don't know. Maybe.

[Jonas Knox]

Do you think it's a great name? It, it's. It's a great name for porn. It's not a great name for wrestling.

[Brady Quinn]

I don't. Listen, man, you, you believe, like, we used to have some fun on that. We had a, a, a Mormon couple, like, two Mormon people call in, play the game one time, and they were pretty accurate. We had cops call in. We had a police officer. He was on. It was a slow night, and he

[Jonas Knox]

just notice how he's being elusive about the names. He only wants to give us one. That's actually a terrible name for that game.

[LaVar Arrington]

All right, y' all ready? Sure. All right, here we go. Y' all tell me. Y' all tell me, does this pass or does this fail? All right, y' all ready? Malik Hooker. Pass or fail?

[Jonas Knox]

Pro wrestler.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah.

[LaVar Arrington]

Okay, that's, that's going win.

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All right.

[LaVar Arrington]

Fletcher Cox.

[Jonas Knox]

How many X's?

[LaVar Arrington]

Three.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah. Adult film star.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah.

[LaVar Arrington]

Gotta be Kendall. Kendall Fuller.

[Jonas Knox]

Pro wrestler.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah. Pro wrestler.

[Amazon Ad Voice]

All right.

[LaVar Arrington]

Nick Chubb.

[Brady Quinn]

See what these are.

[Jonas Knox]

That's the former running back for the Cleveland Browns.

[LaVar Arrington]

Okay, okay. I'm just giving y' all names.

[Brady Quinn]

These were legit.

[LaVar Arrington]

You want to know what's funny? These are legitimate NFL names.

[Brady Quinn]

Mariah Cherry.

[LaVar Arrington]

Here we go.

[Brady Quinn]

That was another one.

[LaVar Arrington]

Sky Moore.

[Brady Quinn]

That's not even that good.

[Jonas Knox]

I mean, now you're just using. You're using football players names.

[LaVar Arrington]

Yeah, they're all football players.

[Brady Quinn]

I mean, I could, I could probably pull up, you know, a real list if you wanted one of these. I probably pull something.

[LaVar Arrington]

I just hit you with a real list, man, and not wanted over wrestlers or porn. They were all NFL players. And I think it's funny as hell.

[Jonas Knox]

The fact, though, that Jonah's preparing for a show, Would like to sit there and think of different names, though. That tells you a little bit about Jones.

[LaVar Arrington]

That does that time into it.

[Brady Quinn]

I, I, you know, the people wanted it.

[Amazon Ad Voice]

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[Brady Quinn]

Yeah.

[LaVar Arrington]

You delivered.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah. Let me see. Let's see what we got here.

[LaVar Arrington]

What you got?

[Brady Quinn]

See if I can pull.

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[Brady Quinn]

We're looking at it.

[LaVar Arrington]

I felt like I, I did pretty good just then.

[Brady Quinn]

You did.

[LaVar Arrington]

Nicholas Chubb.

[Brady Quinn]

All right, how about this one?

[LaVar Arrington]

All right. What you got?

[Brady Quinn]

Dirty Harry.

[Jonas Knox]

That's a pro wrestler.

[LaVar Arrington]

That's a pro wrestler. I'm going porn star.

[Brady Quinn]

Lavar, you are correct. Yes.

[LaVar Arrington]

Yes.

[Brady Quinn]

How about this one?

[LaVar Arrington]

All right. I don't know if I should get them right.

[Brady Quinn]

Black Mamba.

[LaVar Arrington]

Dang.

[Jonas Knox]

That's the first crack.

[LaVar Arrington]

At this point, I'm going stay porn star on this one.

[Jonas Knox]

I mean, it sure sounds like it Would be.

[LaVar Arrington]

Sounds like pro wrestler. That's a popular genre these days, from what I hear.

[Brady Quinn]

Brady Quinn, you are correct. Yeah, that is correct.

[LaVar Arrington]

Damn.

[Brady Quinn]

So, again, I mean, there was, you know, but, you know, those were the. Was the good old days.

[LaVar Arrington]

All right. Yeah, that's not bad.

[Brady Quinn]

That was the good old days. Here we go.

[LaVar Arrington]

You ready? You ready? Grown up since then, Stephen A.

[Brady Quinn]

We've. We've grown up since then. The point is, Giannis is a Milwaukee buck. That ship is sailed. Dang. That's gonna do it. I also wonder as well, too, what does that trade return look like nowadays? Because, yeah, he's not. He's not a young guy with. With a body that hasn't broken down recently. I think he's obviously still a very good player for when they'll let him

[LaVar Arrington]

play, but, you know, he's not crazy old either, though.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah, but he's been in the league, I think, what, 13, 14 years? Something along those lines. Like, he's been in the league a long time now, so I just look at it and I go, but that

[LaVar Arrington]

matter when you're not that. I mean, he's 31. That means he's probably got at least a good seven years to eight years where he can be, like, prolific, I think.

[Brady Quinn]

I think LeBron is kind of. I think he's confused people into thinking that that's normal. What he's doing is what LeBron does is not normal. Like, his ability to. To play at that level is not normal. Like, the.

[LaVar Arrington]

At some point, people really got to start giving LeBron his proper.

[Brady Quinn]

Oh, my God.

[LaVar Arrington]

I mean, just. Yeah, you know, they don't. Hey, bro. They don't appreciate you until you're gone, man. They don't appreciate you till you gone. I just. I just. At some point, like, we gotta stop with the whole comparisons deal. And is he better than, like, at some point we. You know, people are tired of his. His act and all these other things. And that, man, LeBron, like, has rewritten how we should look at the NBA, how we should look at greatness in the NBA players in the NBA. He's rewritten it. And. And people could come up with as many detracting arguments as they would like, but take a step back for a moment and realize that you're watching history. Like, there will come a point in time where people say the same exact things about. About him that they're saying about Michael Jordan. Like, you. You had to been there to see it.

[Brady Quinn]

They. And for people that weren't there at the time when he was Coming out, and there was so much hype and expectation for him to come out, and he exceeded it.

[LaVar Arrington]

How many times? How many times does that happen where you exceed? Like, I don't think there's ever been a more hyped player coming out of high school. And I mean, there's some good ones. Like, Kobe's a good one. Kevin Garnett is a good one. That's a good one. Those are good names to throw out there. I don't think anyone has ever been so hyped in terms of. This is literally the next Michael Jordan that's coming in and outlived it. I overhyped it.

[Brady Quinn]

I. When did you first hear about LeBron? Obviously you guys are in the same class, but was there, like, conversations about him real early? Like, hey, this Dude's legit.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah. AU basketball, back when we were 10, 11, 12 years old, you. You would know about some of the better AU teams.

[LaVar Arrington]

Did you see them? Like, were you at. In the tournaments with.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, we play in terms with them. Yeah. I mean, the tough thing is, is everyone knew about him. So at that age, that was where your focus was. You're doubling him, doing boxing one, and then they had a shooter that was like lights out. So, you know, that was always the hard part, is when. And then obviously their entire team was super talented, but they. No, they were. I mean, he was as advertised for as long as it's been. And I think that's the other thing

[LaVar Arrington]

that's a lot of pressure.

[Jonas Knox]

And I know people have pointed this out, but it is incredible, the life that he's lived where there really hasn't been any controversies, maybe outside of the Diddy party or something, I don't know.

[Brady Quinn]

But.

[Jonas Knox]

But outside of that stuff, it really has been everything on the court. And this is starting from, again, a young, young age where he was identified as being that sort of special once in a generation talent. I mean, like, people are like, oh, it started in high school. No, I started way before that. You know, people knew about him way before that. So the fact that he's had to kind of carry that weight, if you will, or always have eyes on him. And he's done so in an era where, you know, kind of transitioned. Like, I always say, we're in the same class, but, like, we didn't have social media until my senior year of college. You know, camera phones, all that stuff that really didn't come out to my senior year of college. So he has had to adapt to a completely different manner in which he's Being covered when he first got into the league and you looked at how the league was covered versus how it's covered now. It's night and day and he's been able to do so successfully without any sort of controversy and everything else that goes along with it. So I have no idea how he got on LeBron, but because we're just

[LaVar Arrington]

talking about people and being the end of this season and you know, Giannis and how we should be viewing him, I mean, some way, somehow Jonas thinks,

[Jonas Knox]

by the way that Luka's not coming back, so.

[Brady Quinn]

Oh, he's not? No, no, no, no, that's over. Cause maybe he'll come back for the second round. The problem with that is that they're not going to get to the second round. So they've got, I feel like there

[LaVar Arrington]

could be a three way win with that scenario. If they can win because of JJ's coaching, he wins. If they can win and get to, to Luca coming back, that means that LeBron did what he needed to do. If the, if Luca and, and who's my other guy that's out right now? Austin Reeves, if they can come back and be the, the, the Calvary, so to speak, then you get a three way win. I don't know how far they go, but that's, that's a big one.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah, big time for us.

[LaVar Arrington]

Get the up tops coming in as the Calvary. How about it?

[Brady Quinn]

Also, DraftKings has odds on NBA playoff matchups.

[LaVar Arrington]

They got Houston first.

[Brady Quinn]

Brady, if you had to guess, Rockets, Lakers, what are the odds to win that series? If you had to guess?

[Jonas Knox]

Right now I've got the Rockets at minus 200 and Lakers at plus 300.

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[Brady Quinn]

Oh wow, that's, that's close.

[LaVar Arrington]

Give them no chance.

[Brady Quinn]

Rockets minus 750. Lakers plus 550.

[LaVar Arrington]

That's ridiculous. They just sent them home.

[Brady Quinn]

You got no chance.

[Jonas Knox]

You got no chance. On that, on that note, that's a win. The WNBA draft is this evening a layup and this is in the lane of one Jonas Knox.

[LaVar Arrington]

What?

[Jonas Knox]

Azzy Fudd, who's out to be the first overall pick. To be the first overall pick. She's going to the Dallas Wings. You can mark that down. You're going to have to lay a significant amount of money in order to win much. But I'm just telling you right now, the, the, the guard out of Yukon will be the first overall pick.

[LaVar Arrington]

What's her name? Tell me your name again.

[Jonas Knox]

Azzy Fudd. Is that you pronounce it?

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah, I think So, I mean, well,

[Jonas Knox]

that'll be not gonna matter, but I'm handing out a Jonas Knox winner now. She is like my. What is she on DraftKings right now, Joe?

[Brady Quinn]

I don't even know because I've got to go. Let me.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, click over to your draft Kings WNBA draft.

[Brady Quinn]

I'm going to draft king. I got to go to sports. No one watches.

[LaVar Arrington]

Where's that section,

[Brady Quinn]

by the way? I believe on DraftKings it's right next to Indian Premier league cricket. I don't. I don't see it here, to be honest.

[LaVar Arrington]

What a hell of a pool.

[Brady Quinn]

Let's see, let's see. Oh, here we go here. That we've got a developing a minus 575 for your girl to go number one overall. There you go.

[LaVar Arrington]

There you go.

[Jonas Knox]

So speaking of locks, just like Houston. So is fud to the Dallas Wings tonight.

[LaVar Arrington]

There we go.

[Brady Quinn]

All right.

[Jonas Knox]

Hey, don't say I don't give you any winners. I'm not saying that's going to cost you a lot.

[Brady Quinn]

How about that?

[LaVar Arrington]

How about it?

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah. And that'll wrap up our coverage of the WNBA for 2026. It is two pros and a cup of Joe in for the Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. By the way, trouble sleeping. Introducing Z Kliner, the revolutionary recliner designed by Flexsteel. The Z Kliner was engineered with restful sleep in mind, making it an ideal bed altern. A healthy life starts with a healthy night's sleep. Visit z kleiner.com danpatrick today to find Z Kleiner at a store near you. Up next, a not so surprising development in the NFL. We'll have that for you right here on fsr. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app, search FSR to listen live.

[LaVar Arrington]

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[LaVar Arrington]

Dang Mark, he came out all the way out.

[Brady Quinn]

What's the problem? Dan Patrick show here on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys. By the way, you can hang out with us on YouTube. Just go to 2pros FSR on YouTube. Again, that's 2pros FSR. Be sure to the subscribe button. Don't stop there. Hit the thumbs up icon and comment away. Let us know who on the show you agree with, who you think is completely wrong. But check out our new channel on YouTube. Again, just search 2 pros FSR and subscribe. We are going to close up shop with the leftovers coming up here in about 12 minutes from now. By the way, I think you guys, you owe the NFL and NFL owners an apology. I don't know if you guys want to do it now or if you want to do it some other time.

[LaVar Arrington]

Tell us why.

[Brady Quinn]

Remember that whole collusion thing? The whole when Deshaun Watson got his contract and there was some talk and some speculation that maybe owners got together and colluded against quarterbacks and nobody else got a deal like that. Well, a three person appeals panel on Friday upheld an arbitrator's decision that there wasn't sufficient evidence of collusion by teams when negotiating the contracts of Kyler Murray, Lamar Jackson and Russell Wilson in 2022, according to a copy of the ruling obtained by multiple outlets. While the panel found that teams were, quote, being invited to participate in collusion by the NFL and called the effort improper, it ruled that there wasn't enough evidence to prove teams took part in okay, so, all right, so I think you guys owe them an apology, right? Everything was on the up and up. There were no conversations.

[Jonas Knox]

They need to go to that guy in Mississippi who got Trinidad Chablis some eligibility. You know, one of those, those judges you got that home cooking for you is a real. Get that autograph after the, after the verdict. Like that's.

[LaVar Arrington]

You need to that point. Who was the, who was the arbitrator?

[Brady Quinn]

An appeals panel. But the idea.

[LaVar Arrington]

Where's that appeals panel?

[Brady Quinn]

Gov Rose? Probably Sedona. But the idea that, the idea that there were no conversations of owners when Steve Bashati literally came out publicly and said, yeah, we understand that, you know, there's a potential of a contract like this, but we're really sure you want him to be the guy we give the contract to. And we're so publicly critical of it. And the idea that owners didn't have a conversation or two about, hey, you know, maybe it'd be better for everybody if we just didn't give that sort of contract ever again.

[LaVar Arrington]

Oh, it's coming.

[Brady Quinn]

And people really like buy that story. Like, I don't know. That's why there's some of this stuff that comes out where, I don't know if it's gaslighting where everybody knows what is happening here, but they're going to tell you something differently as if you're stupid and can't figure this out. Of course they, they got together and had conversations about it. Of course they did like the idea that Deshaun Watson's contract gets done and we've never seen one like it since when? Normally once a guy resets the market, then everybody else tries to top that whenever there's a deal done. The fact that there has been no deal like Deshaun Watson since I think tells you everything you need to know about whether or not there was some sort of collusion or conversation being had between owners.

[Jonas Knox]

Here's the problem for the players is if Watson had, if it had worked out in Cleveland where he had played well, he was a perennial Pro Bowler. They're going to the playoffs winning games, hell, even with a Super Bowl, I, I think you've got a better sense then of questioning why there hasn't been more guaranteed contracts because unfortunately, unless this year it turns around, it's been a nightmare for the Browns. It's hamstrung them. They've been tied to it. They can't move out of it and it hasn't worked out well. And so instead of it being, well, hey, this guy got a guaranteed contract. Every other quarterbacks asked for it and it's worked out well for Cleveland. Now we look at it, we're saying this is arguably the worst contract from a team standpoint in NFL history. So because of that, every team is scared off. They're all looking at Jimmy Haslam going, see, that's why we don't do this. That's why we don't sign these guys to fully guaranteed deals for five years because there's injury risk, because there's poor performance, there's all these other things. Now you could be like Kirk Cousins and you could sign shorter term deals that are fully guaranteed. But the reality is, as much as this is a part of, you know, again, how things have worked out for Watson and, and that plays a role in it, I think in my mind it's also the agents. The agents keep trying to perpetuate that these deals keep climbing, getting more and more and more and more, when in reality the only thing that matters is the total guarantees, the guarantees at signing and the signing bonus. That's all that matters. But it's hard to be able to keep over, you know, going over top of the next guy at that position and resetting the market. So it ends up being more of just a talking point for the agents to pump themselves up. So I, again, this is a more nuanced combo we have time for. But I might look at it and just say, is there collusion? Yeah, of course, but it's gonna be. It's hard as hell to prove because these guys are obviously rubbing shoulders and saying to each other, see, that's why we don't do what Jimmy did.

[LaVar Arrington]

Here, here's my, my, my takeaways from it. And they're super quick. One is, is that you're, you're now talking about a discussion where obviously in the moment, the NFL gets a win in this situation because the ruling was it wasn't enough information, but that same committee used the word improper. And there's almost like an admission of the idea that these teams did collude, like it was improper what, what was taking place, even though we can't confirm it all the way through. Which leads me to my next two. My next two thoughts are when the CBA deal is, is renegotiated and that's, that's handled. That has to be something that the NFLPA has to focus in on and they have to take their attention towards that because that could be a very, very pivotal word for a pivotal moment as to how contracts are going to be done after, after this, after this has taken place. Second thing is, we were just talking about the DOJ getting in that ass about the, the the whole, I don't know, maybe I did this on Saturday. But the idea of them having the antitrust on their side when they were negotiating their TV contract, because this was, this was a rule that was made in the 80s, something to that effect. It was something super, super long ago. And it doesn't apply to how things are done now. So you've negotiated all of these big network situations and these deals and you have to pay to be able to watch NFL football. Now the NFL says it's like 87% of, of, of it is what they say. Something, something 87 or I forget that. The percentage. But they, they, they're basically saying this percentage of what they have going on is not charged like you. It's free for people to see on, on tv. And the DOJ said, ain't enough. Like, that's not enough. So add another thing to the list of what the DOJ is probably looking at in terms of antitrust as to how they may approach what's going on with the NFL. NFL is out here eating, bruh. They're out here eating and they're winning wins after one after another. At some point, I mean, maybe the money is so big that it isn't, it doesn't change. But you think at some point, either the government has to get involved with some of these changes and how they're regulating things, or the CBA has to stand on business and not always flop and allow for the NFL to get what they want in these negotiations.

[Brady Quinn]

I just think maybe there's more important things going on for the DOJ to worry about than whether or not Netflix has a fair shot at getting games next year.

[LaVar Arrington]

That's fair, but they want that tax money. I want that money. I want that cash.

[Brady Quinn]

All right?

[LaVar Arrington]

I want that money.

[Brady Quinn]

I feel like there's, you know, bigger, bigger issues going on, but. All right, let's, let's do a deep dive as to whether or not Amazon Prime's got the same opportunity as cbs.

[LaVar Arrington]

I want that cash. The deal is outdated. I want the cash. No protections here.

[Brady Quinn]

Fair enough. It is the Dan Patrick show here on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys. You can hear us weekday morning, 6:00am, 3:00 clock Pacific, on two shows and a cup of Joe. Up next, we are going to close up shop with a little something we do on our show called the Leftovers. And it's yours here on fsr. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to listen

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[Brady Quinn]

Since the day we met.

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[Brady Quinn]

Just like a comforting feeling getting to play at home.

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[Brady Quinn]

show here on Fox Sports Radio. Levar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you. We're gonna be back in this time slot tomorrow for Dan and the guys, okay? Same time, same place, 9:00am Eastern Time, 6:00 clock Pacific. You can hear us normally weekday mornings before the dan Patrick Show, 6:00am Eastern Time, 3:00 clock Pacific on a little something we do called two pros and a cup of Joe. But we'll be back here same time, same place, coming up tomorrow morning. If you've missed any of today's show, though, and you want to catch the podcast, just search two pros wherever you get your podcast. Right after the show. Today's podcast will be posted. Be sure to follow it. Rated 5 stars. You can even provide a review. Again, just search two pros wherever you get your podcast. You'll find today's full show and a best of version posted right after we get off the air. Time to find out what's left.

[LaVar Arrington]

Sounds incredible.

[Brady Quinn]

Here's the leftovers. All right. Patrick Suica, executive producer. Yes. What are we looking at here?

[Patrick Suica (Executive Producer)]

Hey, what's up, guys? What up, Brady? Well, it's time for the leftovers and I actually have a leftover furry. This one's specific for you, Jonas.

[Brady Quinn]

Oh, yeah.

[Patrick Suica (Executive Producer)]

So we have Coachella. Not saying that you were there wanting to go there, but we had Coachella. Right. Well, a lot of people, various, you know, players and everybody. Celebrities are there. Pretty much hippies.

[Brady Quinn]

Yes.

[Patrick Suica (Executive Producer)]

Well, this one Goes for you, Jonas. We had a Chicago Bear in attendance. Which one?

[LaVar Arrington]

Oh, I don't know.

[Patrick Suica (Executive Producer)]

The quarterback, Caleb Williams is there.

[Brady Quinn]

Shock, right?

[Patrick Suica (Executive Producer)]

Shocker, right. Well, the big story about him being there isn't just that he was there, it's who he was hanging out with. Jonas and. Well, he was hanging out with Kylie and Kendall Jenner. So a lot of fans are losing their minds. They're losing their minds right now.

[Jonas Knox]

Yes. The curse of the Kardashians.

[Brady Quinn]

Well, I would have taken that anyway.

[LaVar Arrington]

Who were they with?

[Patrick Suica (Executive Producer)]

Kylie and Kendall Jenner.

[LaVar Arrington]

Who.

[Jonas Knox]

Who.

[LaVar Arrington]

Who were the other people?

[Patrick Suica (Executive Producer)]

I don't know the other people, but he was hanging with.

[LaVar Arrington]

Who's he?

[Patrick Suica (Executive Producer)]

Caleb Williams.

[Brady Quinn]

And now how do you know that he wasn't there on a talking business about a new nail polish that they were designing?

[LaVar Arrington]

Yeah, he could be the kryptonite to the Kardashians. I wouldn't get too carried away on that. Yeah, Caleb is cool. He's straight Kryptonite, baby.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah.

[LaVar Arrington]

Put it together. I might have went over your head. Come on.

[Brady Quinn]

You know, kind of an interesting off season for the Bears. Caleb Williams trying to trademark Iceman. They still don't have a stadium figured out and then they're bitching because they didn't get compensatory picks for the Ian Cunningham hire in Atlanta.

[LaVar Arrington]

You best believe there's a correlation between him trying to get Iceman and being with the. The Kardashians, though. Oh, you think so? Come on, man, put that together. That one might have went over some of yalls head. Put it together, man. Iceman. One of them. What? What? What? Who? Kylie and Kendall.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah, yeah.

[LaVar Arrington]

So one of them is a billionaire off of beauty products. Some certain that you could find a product that fits the. The terminology. Iceman.

[Jonas Knox]

I'm seeing the current odds for the Chicago Bears in 2026 at nine and a half wins. The under is the slight favorite at minus 120.

[LaVar Arrington]

How many losses? Well, the under.

[Jonas Knox]

It depends. No, no, it's not how many losses.

[LaVar Arrington]

Oh, from. From nine wins. From nine wins. I got you.

[Jonas Knox]

Well, nine and a half is the number. So do you think they get to 9 and 8? Did they do better than that?

[LaVar Arrington]

I think they'll do better than that next year.

[Brady Quinn]

Eight, Nine.

[Jonas Knox]

I'm taking.

[Brady Quinn]

Yeah, I'll take that. The under.

[LaVar Arrington]

Y' all taking the under?

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, I'm taking the under.

[Brady Quinn]

By the way, would you guys feel different about this story If y' all

[LaVar Arrington]

got hate towards Caleb, would you guys feel. No.

[Jonas Knox]

Well, just the curse.

[Brady Quinn]

Would you guys feel different about this story if he was hanging out with Caitlyn Jenner. I mean, I'm just surprised.

[LaVar Arrington]

I hey man. Hey bro. You waited until 8:54 to throw out your best your best singer.

[Brady Quinn]

I I'm just trying to figure out where this man.

[LaVar Arrington]

Let's go to the next show, man. I feel like these are Drop the microphone, it's all over. You killed it like so good.

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