Hour 3 - Drew Brees

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 3: Drew Brees Interview & NFL Conversation

Date: February 11, 2026
Host: Dan Patrick
Guest: Drew Brees, First Ballot Hall of Famer

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Episode Overview

Hour 3 of The Dan Patrick Show centers on Dan's signature blend of sports analysis, candid conversation, and humor. The centerpiece of the hour is an in-depth interview with Drew Brees, newly minted first-ballot NFL Hall of Famer. The discussion covers Brees’ pioneering career, his underdog journey, insights into iconic moments like the Saints’ Super Bowl onside kick, and advice for young quarterbacks. In classic DP Show fashion, the episode is rounded out with calls from engaged listeners and light-hearted banter with the crew, making it accessible for seasoned fans and newcomers alike.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Olympics Obsession and the Psychology of Spectating (01:55–06:29)

• Dan discusses how viewers, himself included, get invested in sports they rarely watch during the Olympics, like ski jumping and curling.
• The team shares tongue-in-cheek opinions about ski jumping and admits that once personal stories are shared about athletes, the emotional stakes—and rooting interest—heighten.

Dan Patrick (02:37): "You get locked into something that you would never watch. Because it's the Olympics and because there are medals at stake and we got pride, patriotism... all of a sudden now you're a judge in figure skating."

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2. The Economics of Being an Olympian (06:29–08:16)

• Discussion about whether Olympic medals truly "set you up for life."
• Notable gold medalists like Eric Heiden and Michael Phelps are contrasted with less-commercialized athletes, highlighting the financial realities.

Dan Patrick (06:43): "Not every gold medalist or any medalist cashes in... but if you're in those marquees like gymnastics, you've got a good chance to parlay that into a 30-year career of speaking engagements."

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3. Listener Engagement: Calls & Stories (08:45–14:34, 43:49–52:13)

• Listeners weigh in on topics such as sports fandom, driving habits, NBA tanking, and clever fixes for the NBA draft lottery.
• A particularly memorable call details a listener building an AI tool to track the show’s "Pie to the Face" bets, inciting playful self-analysis from the crew.

Chris in New York (12:28): "I built an AI site that tracks pie to the face bets... to have history and standings over the last two years."

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4. Bo Jackson Stories: Legacy Beyond the Field (14:36–16:43)

• Dan recounts the moving experience of having Bo Jackson on the show, discussing both his prostate cancer journey and a viral story of being concussed and sitting on the wrong sideline.
• Emphasis on the importance of early cancer screenings, inspired by Bo’s on-air candor.

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Feature Interview: Drew Brees – First Ballot Hall of Fame Reflections

Segment Start: [23:08]

A. On Becoming a First-Ballot Hall of Famer (23:33–24:12)

• Brees admits the honor is "pretty surreal," reflecting on his career and reverence for the game rather than personal accolades.

Drew Brees (23:33): "I think all of this is still pretty surreal... you just want to play this sport for as long as I can... try to make my mark on the game and leave it better than when I found it."

B. Overcoming the Odds as an Undersized QB (24:12–26:31)

• Brees discusses his journey as a 6-foot quarterback in a league obsessed with height, the chip on his shoulder, and relying on instinct and awareness, not always vision.

Drew Brees (25:20): "Maybe you can't necessarily see exactly where you're throwing the football, but you can feel what's around you... It's like poetry in motion, it hits them in the hands and then you're on to the next play to do it again."

C. Advice for Young Quarterbacks Under Duress (26:31–28:10)

• Dan asks what Brees would do as a young QB, like Drake May, facing a ferocious defense.
• Brees stresses ball control, quick releases, avoiding negative plays, and strategic play-action to keep defenses honest.

Drew Brees (27:10): "There's a premium on not having negative plays, not giving up sacks because you get a third and long against that defense, you're done."

D. Inside the Saints' Super Bowl Onside Kick (28:10–29:54)

• Reveal: Coach Sean Payton called the onside kick "Ambush" and decided before the game it would happen—only the timing was uncertain.
• Brees describes the nerves and brilliance behind executing it right after halftime, leveraging sideline psychology.

Drew Brees (28:53): "It was all... feeling the flow of a game and the momentum and just knowing the right time to call it... the perfect time to do it."

E. The Miami Dolphins, Nick Saban & Career-Altering What-Ifs (29:54–34:02)

• Brees details his free agency—Dolphins’ extensive medical skepticism about his shoulder (only a 25% recovery shot)—versus the Saints’ unwavering faith.
• A vivid contrast in approaches: Miami’s thorough MRIs and skepticism; New Orleans’ faith and sense of mission post-Katrina.

Drew Brees (32:17): "Our doctors think you have a 25% chance of ever coming back and playing again. ...I just really didn't get the feeling that they had a ton of faith or confidence in my ability to come back."

F. Stretch Zone Effect: Wellness After Football (34:24–35:46)

• Brees talks about his role as an investor and ambassador in Stretch Zone, a practitioner-led stretching company. He shares the findings of a research study supporting the benefits of practitioner-led stretching for energy, motion, sleep, and pain relief.

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Lighthearted Moments & Memorable Quotes

The Finger-Licking Quarterback (36:38–37:35)

• The crew jokes about Brees' distinct finger-licking routine before snaps—teasing him about it at home and the missed endorsement potential.

Drew Brees (36:38): "Yes. She's like, do you know where your hands are as a quarterback? ...It just became habit, you know?"

Dan Patrick (37:35): "How did you not get a Kentucky Fried Chicken deal?"

• Brees admits his wife calls him out for unconsciously doing it everywhere—even walking down the street.

Drew Brees (36:59): "When I get in an environment where I have to, like, flip the switch and go, super focus mode, like, you will see that."

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Other Notable Segments & Timestamps

• Olympic Oddities & Athlete Profiles — [01:55–08:16]
• Caller AI Tool for Show Bets — [11:40–13:59]
• Bo Jackson’s Viral Concussion Story & Cancer PSA — [14:36–16:43]
• NFL Coaching Carousel & Draft Lottery Proposals — [43:49–52:13]
• Jake Delhomme, Steve Nash, and Marino: The Finger Lickers — [52:26–52:57]
  Playful debate about famous athletes renowned for the same pre-snap habit as Brees.

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Structuring Success & Risk in Sports

• First In the Building Cliché: The discussion lampoons the trope of "first one in, last out" culture in NFL locker rooms ([47:31]).
• NBA Lottery Reform Ideas: Creative suggestions from listeners and hosts to deter tanking, using unconventional methods like averaging billets from televised drawings—a clear nod to the show's interactive spirit ([44:02–51:05]).

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Final Thoughts

The episode underscores why The Dan Patrick Show remains such a staple: It blends insightful sports journalism with playful banter, peppered with listener interaction and deeply human stories. Drew Brees’ humility and articulate storytelling make his Hall of Fame journey compelling, while Dan’s conversational style draws out both gravitas and humor.

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Selected Timestamped Quotes

• "I always felt like I had something to prove, I had a chip on my shoulder. ...You can sense the depth of the linebacker and the safety over the top and you know that that receiver is going to be rolling that in. ...It's poetry in motion." — Drew Brees ([25:20])
• "Not every gold medalist or any medalist cashes in. ...But if you're in those marquees like gymnastics, yeah, you've got a good chance to parlay that into a 30-year career of speaking engagements." — Dan Patrick ([06:43])
• "Our doctors think you have a 25% chance of ever coming back and playing again. ...but the Saints had unwavering belief in me to be their guy and to be a leader of that organization." — Drew Brees ([32:17], [33:12])

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For more Drew Brees insights, iconic DP Show moments, and sports talk with heart and humor, tune in to the full episode or scan the timestamps above for your favorite segment.

Transcript

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[Drew Brees]

What.

[Dan Patrick]

What NBD I would do. I'd do it once. No, you wouldn't. I think I would. No, you would not. Yeah, if it meant we won a sports image, I would do it.

[Drew Brees]

I could set that up.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. I would do it. That's that one in southern Vermont. That's not too far from here. You've probably driven past it a bunch of times. I have. And I go, that's not that big a deal. All right, Fire up the wagon. I mean, of all the Winter Olympic events, that's not the one I would pick. Maybe. I'd probably do curling. I like to be low to the ground in case I fall. But I love, you know, when my wife watches curling and she goes, do you think they pick up a broom at any other point in their life in their daily routine than what they do when they're doing curling. It's not like your wife goes, hey, hey guy, why don't you get your broom out? Why don't you sweep the kitchen? I don't think that's happening. But that's, that's what came to mind for her. And then I told her, reminded her the story of when we had confetti all over the floor in the old man cave and we gave Todd a broom and you treated the confetti like it was a shuffleboard and you were pushing and I said, Todd, I said.

[Drew Brees]

Gather the dirt, I guess into a one small pile and then you can just kind of scoop it up into that truck.

[Dan Patrick]

But I said, have you, have you used a broom before? And you said, no, I used to.

[Drew Brees]

Like an old vacuum cleaner in my grandparents house, like those old hoovers or whatever it was. And it's just like you plug it into the wall.

[Dan Patrick]

No, no. But you had never used a broom. No, not a broom guy. I'm not a broom, I'm a dirt.

[Caller]

Devil kind of guy.

[Drew Brees]

One of those little dustbuster kind of guys.

[Dan Patrick]

That's all I'm about. I, I mean, maybe Harry Potter's a broom guy, but like I'm not who is a broom guy? But yeah, watching those events and then getting invested in them and they do a really good job because there'll be a profile on an athlete and then all of a sudden you buy into that story and then all of a sudden you're part of the rooting section and now you understand it's somebody from the small town and they made it here. You know, set of circumstances, some obstacles, but they're here. And then all of a sudden we're watching this and this is the most important thing that's on tv. Yes. Marvin, if you're an Olympian, are you.

[Drew Brees]

Just thinking, man, gold, this could set me up for the rest of my life. So say if you're a figure skater.

[Dan Patrick]

A ski jumper, even in gymnastics in the Summer Olympics.

[Drew Brees]

Are you just thinking, if I win gold, I'm Mary Lou Retton.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, good. But, but not everybody. You gotta be in an event like that. There's a lot of gold medalists who don't cash in like we think they will. Not every gold medalist or any medalist cashes in. But if you're in those marquees like gymnastics, yeah, you've got a good chance to parlay that into a 30 year career of speaking engagements. But there's, there's only a few of those, it feels like those athletes, those events, I mean Michael Phelps just took over swimming. He took over the Olympics. He dominated, you know, like Mark Spitz did back in 1972. Eric Haydn in the Winter Olympics when he was a speed skater. You know, Eric Haydn is. And I know we don't talk about speed skating because it doesn't come up unless it's the Olympics. What he did is equivalent to winning the, like Usain bolt winning the 100 meter dash and winning the marathon. That's what Eric Hayden did. He was unbelievably fast and, and then he had the durability for all these endurance races. And I think he's still a doctor, but Eric Haydn was one of the. He's a doctor as well. Yeah. What a show off. I know.

[Drew Brees]

Pick a, pick one or the other. You could be a doctor or win a bunch of golden medals.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. The U.S. olympic Committee pays the winning athletes. If you get a gold medal, you.

[Drew Brees]

Get 37, 5, 22, 5 for silver, 15 for bronze.

[Dan Patrick]

Some of the other countries pay over.

[Drew Brees]

$100,000 if you get a gold medal.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, well, Russia used to do that. China, I think, I think there's certain countries that they paid overpaid. And then you would get some athletes who had Chinese descent or Russian descent. They, they would go and compete with them because they knew that they could make more money competing for that country. Let me see. Corey in Kansas City. Hi, Corey, what's on your mind today?

[Caller]

Hey, good morning, Mr. Patrick. Huge broom guy here as always. Marv Seat. Wu Tang Forever, guys. Second port side, 6 foot 3 down 50 pounds to 185. So amazing. Super, super bowl week as always, fellows. Gerald McCoy was the highlight for me. The NFL blitz story of how he got his fandom I related to pretty hard. Would love to see him reoccurring more as a regular guest. But quick weigh in on the poll question, then two driving related comments. Here in Kansas City, when we were winning our championships, they were canceling school as far out as two hours away for people to attend the parade. So. Okay, but on your driving topics, number one, during my driving test, my instructor told me that I was better in reverse than driving forward. And then two, I would like to challenge Todd for the pass hole title. I drive 10 miles an hour above the speed limit in the left hand lane. Totally appropriate. However, if someone comes up super aggressively behind me, I calmly wait. I let them go around me and once they have passed, I hit my blinker and I move over to the right hand.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh wow. Corey.

[Drew Brees]

Yeah, Corey, stay true to yourself.

[Dan Patrick]

Kenny in la. Hi, Kenny.

[Caller]

Hey, Danny. So I got a couple things for you. First on the NBA and then on the high school teammates, as far as the NBA is, next time you have Brian talk to him about what he and his colleagues have talked about. It's kind of like a reversal if you lose too much. Let's say they come up with February 1st or the all Star break. That's not going to help you in terms of how many chips you get for the lottery. So talk to Mindy about that. Wendy was fantastic last night. I'm actually going to the game tomorrow night. Hopefully we'll get at least Austin Reeves and LeBron playing. And then in terms of the high school teammates, Frank Robinson, Beta Pinson, Kurt Flood, romy outfield of McClyman's High School.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. In San Francisco, that's. Did Bill Russell go to McClyman's high school? Maybe. Check that. That's pretty good outfield there. Well, I've been saying for a while, once you're eliminated from the postseason, every win you have after that gets you more of an advantage of, you know, ping pong balls. Like, I want you still competing instead of a you're eliminated. Now, we don't have to play anybody, but I want to make sure that we're still competing the rest of the year. Yeah, we'll get somebody on tomorrow to talk more about it. Did Bill Russell go to McClyment's high school? He did. Yeah. That's what I thought. Chris in New York. Hi, Chris.

[Caller]

Hi, Dan. Thanks for having me. Not to be confused with the prestigious Chris in Syracuse, New York. Anyway, I am an AI engineer and I was calling in because I took a new job and I've had a few weeks to do basically nothing. I went ahead because I've heard you complain about this on and off the last four or five years and built an AI site that goes through your audio files of the show and tracks pie to the face bets so that we have history and standings from the last at least two years of transcripts. I know that's been a bit of a pain and I wanted to share that with you guys and the BRGs.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, how are you going to share that with us?

[Caller]

It is a public link. The BRGs already have it. But if we are looking at it right now, now there's a caveat. AI can make mistakes. But I wanted to ask you a pop quiz of According to this, who is the only Dan or Dan at with a losing pie to the face record?

[Dan Patrick]

A losing pie to the face record, Paul. I'm guessing Todd.

[Caller]

Yeah, it's a good. It's a good guess and a sensible guess, Paul, but it's actually one Marvin Prince, who apparently is 12 and 14. And Dan, I'm showing that you actually have one pie to the face that you have not taken.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, there was one where Fritzi did not deliver the pie in time before we went off the air.

[Drew Brees]

That was an epic fail on my.

[Dan Patrick]

So that that should count as I was gonna get the piece. I was ready to go, and Todd couldn't pull the trigger there.

[Caller]

Chris, we are counting that. I do believe when I say that I haven't actually reviewed it, but I'm actually showing one bet that hasn't been paid off at all.

[Dan Patrick]

How many. How many pies to the face have not been paid off?

[Caller]

You know, again, I can make mistakes and we can. I almost broke my computer putting this thing together. But if we ramp up computing power, we can get a little more accurate. But I'm showing a total of five unpaid bets, two of which are by show members.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. All right, well, we'll look at that, Chris, and thank you.

[Caller]

Sure thing. An honor to call in. Thanks, dp.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, AI, it's here. When we were in San Francisco and out at the Chase center and I was talking to a local, I said, well, who. Who's buying up that property? They said, OpenAI. And it was like, as far as I could see, open AI was buying all of this property in San Francisco over by where the warriors play Brad in Oklahoma. Hi, Brad. What's on your mind today?

[Caller]

Six foot? Yes, I have a question about the bo. No sign. Oh, what happened? What's the follow up? What? You gave it to him.

[Dan Patrick]

You didn't? I did. I did give it to Bo Jackson. I had had that Bo knows for over 30 years, and I keep everything. And I thought, you know, one day I'll see Bo and I'll have him sign it for me. The. The Nike campaign. And I said to Bo, here, I want you to have it. And then we went to commercial break, and he said that my grandkids already have one each. You keep it. And then he grabbed it and signed it. And it's on the truck coming back, the big Germans driving back. And I'll put it up in the man cave probably tomorrow. But that was. That was a great interview because Beau made it great. Bo had to share that he had had prostate cancer surgery. And. And I'll keep saying that to you. Do not wait when somebody says, wait till you're 50. Do not wait till you're 50 for prostate. You know, any of these cancers, there's no need to wait. Like, you know, it's not some magical, hey, you're 50 now. You know, you can go in. I just go in, get a colonoscopy. Prostate cancer, get your blood tested. I mean, do it. Because Bo Jackson didn't know, and maybe he does know. He probably saved some lives that day in San Francisco with what he said. Because here's Bo Jackson having prostate cancer surgery three months earlier and then revealing that on the show and then telling everybody, hey, I got it. You can get it. And I. I just appreciated the honesty that he gave us. But the story where he got his bell rung and he went to the other sidelines and he sat on the other team's bench and didn't realize it. That got over 4 million views, I think, on Instagram or one of the social media channels.

[Drew Brees]

Yes, Marvin, it's now at 10 million views.

[Dan Patrick]

10 million, correct. I would have thought Beau talking about prostate cancer would be the one. And Marvin goes, hey, got a clip with Bo Jackson. Went viral. I said, oh, the one about prostate cancer. He goes, no, no. When he got his bell rung and he went to the wrong bench and sat down. Didn't realize it was halftime. I think 10 million views with that. Wow. That's the power of Bo Jackson. First ballot hall of famer Drew Brees will join us next. More of your phone calls as well. Back after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

[Drew Brees]

Stugatz here.

[Dan Patrick]

I have a podcast empire. It continues to grow, and I have.

[Drew Brees]

Brought it here to iVart. I'm also doing a live radio show.

[Dan Patrick]

From 3 to 5pm Eastern because my wife wanted to kick me out of the house.

[Drew Brees]

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[Dan Patrick]

Show finishes every single day. Some of the biggest names in sports.

[Drew Brees]

A lot of phone calls.

[Dan Patrick]

I love you guys show.

[Caller]

It's one of my favorites.

[Drew Brees]

A lot of interaction. Guys not taking themselves too serious. Those are just some of the things.

[Dan Patrick]

That you can expect from Stugouts Co. And Stugatson Co. Live. So listen to Stugouts Co. Live and our original podcast. Please subscribe, rate and review Stugats Co. And God bless football. Taylor's livelihood depends on it. Do it today and you can check all of those out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Drew Brees]

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[Dan Patrick]

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More phone calls Coming up, we'll hear from Clint Kubiak, the Raiders head coach, talking about Max Crosby and has Max played his last game for the Raiders. Drew Brees, first ballot hall of Famer and joining us on behalf of Stretch Zone, a brand new research study that we'll talk to him about how important was first ballot to you.

[Drew Brees]

You know what? I think all of this is still pretty surreal. You know, I don't think as a kid you necessarily sit there and think about, you know, hall of Fame. I think at that point you're just thinking, I just want to play this sport for as long as I can. I love playing it. I love being a part of the team. Maybe I can play in college someday. Maybe I can play in the NFL someday. And then all of a sudden you play 20 years and the numbers add up to the point where, you know, people think it justifies you being a first ballot hall of Famer. So I mean, honestly, I just have such, such a respect and a reverence for the game and for the opportunity to play it for so long and try to make my mark on the game and leave it better than when I found it.

[Dan Patrick]

But you defy the odds because if I said, hey, he's not six four, not six, five in an era where everybody had to be six four, six five in college, you're six feet and you're not a runner. I get, doesn't add up. Like, how did you beat the odds to be able to throw for 60,000 yards?

[Drew Brees]

Well, if you recall, you had me on your show about what, 10 years ago at the super bowl. And I think we went through my draft reading where it did say I was a runner. It was saying I would, would run through people. I didn't know how to make a mess.

[Dan Patrick]

A tough, it said a tough runner. A tough runner.

[Drew Brees]

That was, that was, you know, 20 pounds ago, you know, and I was playing in the Big Ten, had to bulk up, you know. You know, honestly, I, I take pride in that. I, I take pride in being, you know, call it a six foot quarterback, you know, maybe being a little bit undersized. I always felt like I had something to prove, I had a chip on my shoulder. I mean, I don't know what it's like to be 6:5. You know, do those guys have better vision? Do they, can they see up over the line of scrimmage? And you know, it's like a whole new world up there. I bet in that stratosphere. I mean, I, I always felt like, honestly, this is the way I've always described it is if you close your eyes so you take away, you know, your, your, your visual sense, all of a sudden your sense of hearing is heightened and your sense of smell and your just sense of awareness and feeling of what's around you. That's probably the best way to describe maybe playing the quarterback position in the pocket amongst a world of giants where at times maybe you can't necessarily see exactly where you're throwing the football, but you can feel what's around you and you can sense the depth of the linebacker and then the safety over the top and you know that that receiver is going to be rolling that in, cut in at 15 yards and your feet are telling you it's Time to turn the ball loose, right? And you let it go and you just lay it to that spot and then it's like poetry in motion. It hits them in the hands and it's, you know, first down and then you're on to the next play to do it again. So, like, I can't tell you how many times that was playing the quarterback position where you wouldn't necessarily always see it, but it didn't mean that you couldn't feel it or that you couldn't visualize it.

[Dan Patrick]

Let me put you in Drake May's position on Sunday. And what would you have done differently as far as protections or philosophy of when you get the ball out? Like, you know, what are you doing differently when you see what Seattle's doing?

[Drew Brees]

Well, first off, that defense was as good as there was in this league, you know, all year long. That Seattle defense, they could rush the passer. They had a ton of skill on the back end as well. I can't give enough credit to Mike McDonald and kind of just what he built with that system with that team. At the end of the day, when you're playing a pass rush like that, there is a premium to finding ways to get the ball out, just trying to get the ball on the perimeter to guys where it's one on one. Maybe they have a chance to just get you three, four yards. I think you just have to be okay with the fact that you may not get a ton of explosive plays because you're not going to have the chance to hold the ball very long. Then you mix in a. You got to run the ball effectively, you got to get on the perimeter, and then you kind of pick and choose your slots to, you know, throw in a play action to try to push the ball down the field. But you have to be okay with more of a ball control. There's a premium on not having negative plays, not giving up sacks, because you get a third long against that defense, like you're done, you know, and so play the field position battle a little bit. Look, early on, your defense was playing really well too. They were holding Seattle to a bunch of field goals. So you, you were keeping the game close, but they just needed to cash in a few more times and just not give up so many negative plays.

[Dan Patrick]

Talking to first ballot hall of Famer Drew Brees, when were you told you guys were going to open up your super bowl the second half with an onside kick?

[Announcer]

So.

[Drew Brees]

So Sean Payton had nicknamed that play Ambush. And I'm literally the first meeting of. Because it Was, you know, two week lead time from, you know, NFC Championship to Super Bowl. Literally the first meeting we come in and it's like, hey, here's the practice schedule. Bup, buh, bup. And oh, by the way, we have this onside kick. It's called ambush. It's not a matter of if we're going to call it, but when. So get ready. And it has to work.

[Dan Patrick]

So it wasn't score, it wasn't score dependent. You're opening up the second half.

[Drew Brees]

Yeah, it was, it was all, look, and this is, this is part of the greatness of Sean Payton is just the instincts and just feeling the flow of a game and the momentum and just knowing the right time to call it. And again, he said it was a matter of if it was when, like, when are we going to do this, we're going to call it. And if you recall the way that game started with the Colts, you know, they came right out, scored on their first two possessions, they were up 10 0. And then we calmed it down a little bit in the second quarter. We got a field goal, two field goals before half. And, and so Sean felt like, okay, we now have the momentum, we're kicking off in the second half. They're kind of resetting themselves on the other side because we had, you know, staged a little bit of this comeback. So he's like, this is, this is when they'll never expect it. So much of an onside kick is you do it when nobody thinks you're gonna do it, right in the super bowl. Biggest stage coming out of halftime, you have all the momentum, you know, and, and, and it was the perfect time to do it.

[Dan Patrick]

And it could have gone wrong. It could have gone really wrong.

[Drew Brees]

But again, again, a great sign of leadership is instilling confidence, right, and belief in your team and making it feel like it's work. I mean, he told us again, very first meeting, we are going to call this and it has to work. It will work.

[Dan Patrick]

But you knew going out the start of the second half that ambush is on.

[Drew Brees]

And here's the great thing too, is he intentionally kicked the ball the direction he kicked it, knowing that here, Thomas Morstead is going to kick this thing and it needs to happen at our sideline, right? Like, again, you're thinking about the human nature element of all of a sudden there's a scrum on the ground for the ball and all the officials are over there prying bodies away trying to see who has the ball. And if they're on the Saint sideline, And everybody's going, saints ball, Saints ball, Saints ball. You know, if there's any type of a, you know, a question, it's a, it's white ball. Right. As opposed to that happens on the opposing sideline and they're just getting it from the other side. Maybe, you know, the results different.

[Dan Patrick]

We, speaking of results different, we talked to Jason Garrett last hour and he said that he was there in Miami and having dinner. You and your wife thought that you were going to be going there. What I didn't understand is, okay, you had a shoulder injury, but they decided on Dante Culpepper, who also had a damaged knee and they kind of bet on his knee over your shoulder.

[Drew Brees]

Yeah, you know, I, I, I remember everything about that trip to Miami. Again, like on paper, you know, I'm coming off of the, the show, the major shoulder injury, not sure if I'm ever going to play football again, but, but hopeful. And it's the New Orleans Saints and the Miami Dolphins. On paper, this was the easiest decision in the world. It's the Miami Dolphins all the way. Nick Saban's the head coach, has done an outstanding job of that defense. One of the best defense of the league. Zach Thomas, Jason Taylor, like they had finished that last season, the previous season, winning seven in a row. Really the only question mark for their team was quarterback. They had skill, position guys. Jason Garrett was the quarterback, coach Mike Malarkey was the oc. They were running the same offensive system that I was coming from in San Diego on my recruiting trip there. We're eating dinner on Wayne Huizenga's yacht and he's sitting there talking about how every summer we're going to go to Scotland and play golf.

[Dan Patrick]

Me, you and Dan.

[Drew Brees]

I'm like, Dan? They're like, yeah, Dan Marino. I'm like, oh, so Dan is like my mentor now, you know, I mean, like, this is the greatest thing ever, you know, state of Florida, no state income tax. I mean, this is a no brainer, right? But also on that trip, they put me through this rigorous health inspection. Basically six hours of testing contrast MRI tube, where I'm in the MRI literally for two hours, and they're trying to assess just the damage that was done to my shoulder and the chances of me being able to come back and be the same. Remember sticking these big needles in my arm to test my nerve endings. I mean, it was nuts. And at the end of the day, Nick Saban looked me in the eye and said, our doctors think you have a 25% chance of ever coming Back and playing again. And I'm like, well, okay, I know what they say, but what do you think? He's like, I gotta believe what the doctors are telling me, but we still want you, but I'm just letting you know kind of what's been said. And so I just really didn't get the feeling that they had a ton of faith or confidence in my ability to come back. So despite how good that visit was and how much respect I had for them and the organization and everything, you know, the Saints was a totally different story from the perspective of, look, I mean, we know that city was destroyed, you know, but Sean Payton and Nikki Loomis had just this unwavering belief in me to be their guy and to be a leader of that organization. It was going to be this collaboration and I was going to have so much input. They were building this thing around me and it was just that moment where I felt like I had a chance to be a part of something so much greater than football and felt like it was God's calling in my life to be there. And so that's why we chose New Orleans.

[Dan Patrick]

Did the Saints not have an MRI machine? They didn't put you through the same test that the Dolphins did?

[Drew Brees]

Apparently not. It was down, you know, I think it was a little bit. Maybe it was like, you know, ignorance is bliss. It was like, we don't want to know. We would rather not look at the images. We're just going to, you know, maintain a ton of faith and hope that you're going to be okay.

[Dan Patrick]

Tell us what you're doing with the Stretch Zone effect.

[Drew Brees]

Yeah. So Stretch Zone is a practitioner led stretching brand. The fastest growing largest in the country. It's been around since 2016. I've actually been a member since 2018. It was a big part of my routine towards the end of my career just to help with my flexibility and mobility, which helps to generate power as a thrower and a rotational athlete. All the things that you would lose with the aging process. I was trying to stay ahead of and keep an edge with to the point where I believed in it so much that when I got done playing, I ended up being an investor ambassador, sitting on the board for Stretch Zone, opening up franchises in Louisiana and Indiana. And it's amazing. Obviously, I know the impact it's had on me and my career and just my overall training and health. Anecdotally, you know, so many people of our clients, our customers feel the same way. But now we're releasing a research study that has pretty Amazing results. In regards to the true benefits of practitioner led stretching through stretch zone. Up to 90% of people feel more energy, have better range of motion, they sleep better, less pain, back pain, hamstring pain, wherever you might be experiencing it, and just being able to get back so many things that maybe they thought they had lost, but the practitioner led stretching through stretch zone has been able to give back to them. So just an overall better quality of life.

[Dan Patrick]

Good for you. Congrats again. Always appreciate you joining us. Thank you, Drew.

[Drew Brees]

You too, Dan. Thanks, man. Great seeing you.

[Dan Patrick]

Drew Brees. Now you can say first ballot, hall of Famer. It would matter to me. Now, I know you want to get in the hall of Fame, but getting in with the first ballot designation, that all of a sudden, like, Drew walks in. Six, five, not six foot. Yeah. Sutton. Drew Brees, first team, all dap guy. One of the strongest daps in the league for sure. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Watch any video of him after a play or like in the locker room with some dudes. Super strong dap game. Never a miss. Always licking his fingers, though. Yeah, yeah. Drew, Drew, the lick in your fingers, did your wife ever say, will you stop it?

[Drew Brees]

Yes. Yes. She's like, do you know where your hands are as a quarterback? I was like, yes. I. I'm sorry. I just. It just became habit, you know?

[Dan Patrick]

Did you ever do it around the house?

[Drew Brees]

Buckle their chin straps? You know, you like to lock in finger liquor.

[Dan Patrick]

Did you ever do it around the house?

[Drew Brees]

Yes. See, that's the thing.

[Dan Patrick]

That's messed up.

[Drew Brees]

No, when I get in it. When I get in an environment where I have to, like, flip the switch and go, super focus mode, like, you will see that. And I can't help it. I'm telling you. I can't. To the point where, yeah, my wife will be like, did you really just randomly lick your fingers, like, walking down the street? Like, she. And she. She'll go like, what are you thinking about? And I'm like, I'm thinking about this. She's like, when you get laser focused, you just immediately go to the finger lick. That's like your. That's your mechanism.

[Dan Patrick]

How did you not get a Kentucky Fried Chicken deal?

[Drew Brees]

You know, that's a great question, Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

We're.

[Drew Brees]

We're gonna. We're on that. Yeah, more of a cane's. More of a cane's guy. But. But, you know.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, yeah. What about Febreze?

[Drew Brees]

Yeah, well, Febreze, we got Breeze Airways. Yeah, there's. There's. There's a lot of There's a lot of, a lot of directions we can go here.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm trying to help you. I'm trying to help you.

[Drew Brees]

I know you're, you're a creative, creative marketing director.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, I'll let you go. That's. I'll lick my fingers here. Drew Brees. Yeah. Yeah. He would always, you could tell, like, they'd be getting a drive and, you know, game on the line. All of a sudden he'd be licking his fingers. I remember I'd always clean the bottom of my Converse when I was playing. Yeah, I always wipe them. That's a big one. Yeah, yeah. Yes.

[Drew Brees]

Todd, I love when the interview is over and the guest sticks around and he's overhearing what we're saying and then all of a. There's a part two of the interview afterwards.

[Dan Patrick]

No, Mario does a great job that he'll, he likes to keep the guests there just in case we need to come back to them. All right, let's take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learned, what's in store tomorrow after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Every small business owner has that one moment that could have broken them. But remarkably, it didn't. Hi, I'm Ben Walter, CEO of Chase for Business. And on season three of the Unshakeables, my co host Kathleen Griffith and I are bringing you more incredible stories of overcoming the impossible. Listen to the Unshakeables wherever you get your podcasts and learn [e-mail] podcast JP Morgan Chase Bank NA member FDIC Copyright 20 and 26 JP Morgan Chase Co. Hey, it's Ben Ma. Ready to tackle your financial goals with Weble. You don't have to sit on the sidelines. Whether you're a rookie or a seasoned pro, Webull puts you in the game with powerful tools that help you make the moves you want. Trade stocks, options, ETFs and more. Or play the long game with cash management and retirement accounts all on one platform. We Bull's intuitive app pairs advanced analytics with real time data so you can read the defense, adjust your strategy and stay in control. And now meet Vega, your personal AI market assistant. Ask questions like analyze my watch list or what's the outlook for this stock? And get real time stock analysis, volatility, insights and fundamentals that turn complex signals into plain English. Want a wider view of the field use portfolio X ray to spot trends, manage risk, and optimize the performance of your portfolio. So stop punting your financial future. Join WE Bull's community to discuss markets, trending topics and ideas with fellow investors. Download the Webull app today and on mobile or desktop, that's W E B U L L or visit webull.com and stay ahead of the game. We Bull Financial LLC member SIPC FINRA investing involves risk. For more information, visit webull.com disclosures hey, it's Carissa Thompson.

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[Dan Patrick]

Last call for phone calls what we learn what's in store tomorrow. 877.3dpshow email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @dpshow Lucas in LA hi, Luke. What's on your mind today?

[Caller]

Hey, Dan. First time, long time. I got an idea for NBA tanking and redoing the lottery. So let's say we take the five worst records and we re rank them by games missed by players. So let's say this team with a bad record missed 30 games. But this team had a worse record, but their players missed 100 games. Whatever team missed less game should get the better pick because that means you're actually playing your guys and you still suck, rather than a team whose players are missing games and suck.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, you know what? I'll bring this up to Chris Mannix, who covers the NBA for Sports Illustrated. He'll join us tomorrow. But thank you, Lucas. Thank you. Ryan in Iowa. Iran, what's on your mind?

[Caller]

Hey, Dan, thanks for the year. This morning I'm calling with some NFL breaking news. The Des Moines Register is reporting, and the Iowa Senate has put out paperwork to attract the Chicago Bears to come to Iowa.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, good luck with that. Good luck with that. I remember when people thought that Hartford was going to get the Patriots. They used Hartford. And I just remember neighbors were like, do you think we're getting the Patriots? I go, no. Well, they're talking about that Hartford's gonna get the Patriots. I go, it's not gonna happen. You're being used. Was that Victor Kayam? Was he the owner back then? Yes, Marvin.

[Drew Brees]

They played Harford like a fiddle. I was a kid when that happened because Foxborough, the old Foxborough stadium was a dump. Oh, you know, we need a new stadium.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, Hartford.

[Drew Brees]

All the idiots out here in Connecticut.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, we're getting the.

[Drew Brees]

No, we're not. They built Gillette right next to the old stadium.

[Dan Patrick]

I know. Yeah. See, I mean, not for nothing, but the. The Patriots did Sign a deal with the governor of Connecticut to put a stadium there. And then the Patriots broke the deal. Yeah, I. I mean, they did sign a deal to make it happen. That. That would make me lead to believe it might. Yeah. I just never thought it was going to happen. But, you know. Des Moines. The Des Moines bears. Yes, Paul.

[Drew Brees]

300 miles away from downtown Chicago.

[Dan Patrick]

Des Moines. Okay. All right. All right. Get up early. Road trip. Road trip. Clint Kubiak, former Seattle offensive coordinator, now the head coach of the Raiders, was asked this question yesterday.

[Drew Brees]

You've spoken to Max Crosby, and is he a guy you could see anchoring your defense here for years to come?

[Dan Patrick]

I did.

[Drew Brees]

You know, I got to drink a cup of coffee with Max this morning.

[Dan Patrick]

Love talking ball with him, and, you know, look forward to continuing those conversations. He was.

[Drew Brees]

I think he was the first one in here this morning working out, so.

[Dan Patrick]

I fired me up. I hope he stays. But I understand where they sat him down with the last two games. And he was like, hey, I want to play. Don't do that to me. And was holding the organization accountable for that. And then there was a report that he told Tom Brady he'd never play for the Raiders again. Yeah, give it a little bit of time, you know, a little bit of separation, and then I'm sure Tom Brady can smooth this over and talk about, you know, moving forward with this franchise and a new quarterback and a, you know, the offensive coordinator, the super bowl winning team, and, you know, we have something here that we're building. Stay here, you know, be the mainstay of this defense here. Yes, Marvin.

[Drew Brees]

They always tell you who the first person in the building is, but they never say who's the last person.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. You can't have numerous guys who were the first guy in the building. Right. Because there has to be that one guy who's first in the building. Not, man, he's the first guy in the building kind of guy. Well, is he the first guy in the building? No, he's one of those first guy. So we have first guys in the building here. I think Tyler might be the first guy in the building, but that's not due to dedication. That's due to. He has to turn on the lights. It's not like he's getting to work early, earlier than everybody else, you know, but, you know, look at Tyler. If you're watching on Peacock and NBC Sports Network, look at you working hard right there. Got my dog in there taking care of Winnie, taking care of the phone calls. Yes, Todd.

[Drew Brees]

That's not to Say he's not also passionate about getting in early and just.

[Dan Patrick]

Getting things situated and get his day going early. He likes to be here. Well, he has to be the first person here. He has to turn on the line.

[Drew Brees]

I mean he has to be, but it doesn't mean that he doesn't want to. Would prefer not to be. I'll just try to put a little positive spin on it.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I'm just giving reality here.

[Drew Brees]

Maybe either way, he would have been coming here. 6, 36, 45 in the morning.

[Dan Patrick]

This day in sports history in 1990.

[Drew Brees]

Dan, this is a hammer. In Tokyo, Japan, James Buster Douglas knocked out Mike Tyson in the 10th round to win the heavyweight championship.

[Dan Patrick]

And I remember and I've said this before, the mothership sent Eric Clemons to Tokyo and I think there were other networks that didn't send anybody because they didn't think Mike Tyson was going to get knocked out by Buster Douglas. But all of a sudden we have Eric Clemens there and we're getting access to one of the biggest upsets in boxing history. Jamie in Oklahoma. Hi, Jamie. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Hey, Dan. Second time, long time, 5:10, 220 pounds. Hey, I got two things, but first, I owe Marvin a pie to the face. We bet that the Raiders were going to be a 10 win team this year and they definitely were not. So I need to know what kind of pie I owe Marvin.

[Dan Patrick]

Take blueberry. Okay. How about a blueberry, Jamie?

[Caller]

All right. Hey, the second thing is, look, man, you've championed for a lot of people when it comes to the hall of Fame that get overlooked. And I'm just wondering your opinion on Jim Plunkett.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, he's got the two Super Bowls and usually that's magical enough. I just don't know if the rest of his body of work is hall of Fame worthy. Great story, you know, great career at Stanford. You know he went to a bad team in New England, but you know he produced some big games in the super bowl in the playoffs. Yes, Paulie, he was 72 and 72.

[Drew Brees]

In his career as a starter.

[Dan Patrick]

His career is a little bit like.

[Drew Brees]

Darnold's in the way that it didn't.

[Dan Patrick]

Work out for a while and then.

[Drew Brees]

Started working out in other places.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, he went to a good team. Brandon in Utah. Hi, BRANDON.

[Caller]

Hi, Dan. Second time, long time. 5, 4, 1, 6. Here's, here's how you fix the draft for the NBA. 30 teams, equal odds. You do three televised drawings. One for the final, the in season tournament, the other all star Game, halftime, and then the third, and it's normal. And then your position is based on the average of those three drawings. And you basically resolved any ties by coin toss or Russian roulette.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, I like that. I didn't know where you're going to introduce Russian roulette in here. To finding out who's going to have the number one pick in the draft. Feels extreme. A little. A little. But, you know, life and death. Sports is life and death. Kareem in Colorado.

[Caller]

Hey, Dan. Good morning, guys. Hey, listen, that story with Drew Brees is funny. I always thought that was the nastiest thing ever where he would lick his fingers before touching the ball. I referee basketball, and last week, man, I walk into the locker room, we're getting ready for a game, and a guy's literally spitting on the bottom of his shoes, wiping it with his hands. Yeah, he sticks. He sticks his hand out to shake mine. I'm like.

[Dan Patrick]

How about some dap instead? I used to do that. You spit on your hand, you wipe the dust off your. Your Converse All Stars. Get some traction there. Definitely. Yeah. You do that on defense, like you. Ah, man, I'm ready. I'm gonna play some defense here.

[Drew Brees]

I'll sit in the chair.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. We didn't slap the floor back then. We cleaned the bottom of our shoes. That meant we were really serious about playing defense.

[Drew Brees]

Slapping the floor, it's just so unnecessary.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, we're really gonna play.

[Drew Brees]

It goes right by you.

[Dan Patrick]

I said that to Woj. Steve Wojahowski at Duke. I said, man, you slapped the floor. I'm going right by you.

[Drew Brees]

You busy garden. Ed Coda.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, Ed Coda. Barbecue chicken. Yes. Just looking at an all finger licking team here. Drew Brees, obviously. Matthew Stafford, big finger licker. Marino. Marino. Massive finger licking guy for sure. I think Montana may have not been shy about licking a finger or two. All right, Jake Dale home. Jake Del Homie. Yeah. He had a strong habit. Yeah. Marvin.

[Drew Brees]

Different sport, but Steve Nash.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yeah. And finger licker Todd. What did I learn on today's program?

[Drew Brees]

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[Drew Brees]

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[Dan Patrick]

A few minutes saved by going faster.

[Drew Brees]

Is never worth the risk. So follow the speed limit, enjoy the drive, maybe bring some snacks for the kids. And know that along the way, you're.

[Dan Patrick]

Getting quality time with your family. Paid for by NHTSA Altegara Los Cinquenta Algunas Cosas Valor de la Familia La Importantcia del Travajo.

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