Hour 3 – Gerrit Cole Gets Tommy John Surgery, Louis Riddick

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show: Hour 3 – Gerrit Cole Gets Tommy John Surgery, Louis Riddick
Release Date: March 11, 2025
Host: Dan Patrick | Network: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network

In this engaging episode of The Dan Patrick Show, host Dan Patrick navigates through a plethora of sports topics, blending insightful analysis with his characteristic humor. The episode delves into significant NFL developments, debates the impact of instant replay in sports, and engages listeners with interactive trivia and call-ins. Here's a detailed breakdown of the key discussions, insights, and conclusions from the episode.

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1. NFL Draft and Player Movements ([02:31] - [10:00])

Daniel Jones Joins the Indianapolis Colts

Dan Patrick opens the episode by discussing quarterback Daniel Jones' recent signing with the Indianapolis Colts. He speculates on Jones' aspirations and the opportunities this move presents:

“Daniel Jones is going in thinking he gets a real chance to be the starter in the NFL.”
– Dan Patrick ([03:13])

Dan emphasizes that Jones is likely aiming to compete for the starting quarterback position, presenting him as a potential comeback player of the year.

Eagles Trade C.J. Gardner Johnson to Texans

The conversation shifts to the Philadelphia Eagles' trade of cornerback C.J. Gardner Johnson to the Houston Texans in exchange for offensive lineman Kenyon Green, as reported by Ian Rapoport.

“Kenyon Green is a solid addition for the Texans, especially considering their need to bolster the offensive line after giving up significant sacks last year.”
– Dan Patrick ([03:49])

Dan questions the Texans' strategy, highlighting their defensive struggles and the hope that Green will address their offensive line shortcomings.

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2. NBA Draft Trivia ([06:01] - [09:38])

Trivia Question: Last White Player Born in the USA Taken #1 Overall in NBA Draft

Dan engages the panel and listeners with a trivia question regarding the last white player born in the United States to be selected first overall in the NBA draft. The panelists discuss historical drafts, ultimately concluding that Kent Benson was the correct answer.

“It is Kent Benson by the Milwaukee Bucks. And that was the year...”
– Dan Patrick ([06:14])

This segment not only entertains but also educates listeners on historical NBA draft picks, fostering a deeper appreciation for the sport's history.

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3. Instant Replay Debate ([12:27] - [16:44])

Impact of Instant Replay in Sports

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to debating whether instant replay has been beneficial or detrimental to sports since its implementation in 1986. The panelists offer varied perspectives:

“Instant replay has been a good-ish thing for sports. Be weird to not have replay watching a game.”
– Dan Patrick ([16:27])

Colleen Witt expresses skepticism about the delays caused by instant replay:

“I'd say it's been mostly bad. It made us litigious sports fans watching from minute to minute.”
– Colleen Witt ([15:52])

Nate Thompson acknowledges both the advantages and flaws, emphasizing that while instant replay ensures accuracy in critical moments, it can disrupt the flow and emotional engagement of the game.

“When there are game-changing plays that are blatantly missed, replay gets it right, and that's good for the game.”
– Nate Thompson ([27:25])

The consensus leans towards instant replay being a "necessary evil," balancing precision with the traditional human element of sports officiating.

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4. NFL Draft Predictions: Running Backs vs. Quarterbacks ([10:26] - [34:20])

Will More Running Backs Be Taken Over Quarterbacks?

Dan initiates a poll regarding whether the upcoming NFL draft will see more running backs selected over quarterbacks. Nate Thompson confidently predicts a surge in running back selections, citing the depth and talent pool available this year:

“I think it will be running backs. This year has a strong cohort of talented backs who can change the game dynamically.”
– Nate Thompson ([34:42])

Colleen Witt adds to the discussion by highlighting the versatility and athleticism of the current running back prospects, suggesting that teams will prioritize securing these dynamic players early.

“There's a bunch of guys in person this year who are real electric... People think I'm crazy, but it's Emmitt Smith with better speed.”
– Nate Thompson ([34:20])

The panelists agree that the evolving role of running backs in today's offensive strategies will drive their higher selection rate in the draft.

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5. Q&A with Louis Riddick: Free Agency Insights ([34:20] - [42:02])

Louis Riddick on Free Agency and Quarterback Market

ESPN's NFL free agency expert Louis Riddick joins the discussion to provide deeper analysis on the quarterback market and potential team strategies. He explores scenarios involving high-profile quarterbacks like Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson:

“Aaron levels up for them; he just does.”
– Louis Riddick ([34:39])

Riddick discusses the Pittsburgh Steelers' potential interest in Aaron Rodgers, evaluating how his experience and skill set can enhance the team's offensive dynamics without disrupting the existing structure:

“He will need to abide by a much more rigid structure in Pittsburgh and not think that he can come in and run the show.”
– Louis Riddick ([34:45])

The conversation also touches on the Giants' possible pursuit of Russell Wilson, debating the strategic fit and long-term implications for both players and teams involved.

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6. Sports Trivia and Audience Interaction ([42:25] - [56:22])

Interactive Trivia and Listener Calls

Dan Patrick fosters audience engagement through interactive trivia and listener call-ins, discussing various sports topics and historical moments.

Trivia Highlights:

• The youngest athlete to appear on the cover of Sports Illustrated.
• Record penalties in hockey.

Listener Questions:

• Queries about Shador Sanders' draft prospects and the influence of his father, Dion Sanders.

“If you get the line of scrimmage, do you know what you're doing? That's it. The other stuff, I don't want to pass up on a talent just because...”
– Nate Thompson ([50:58])

Notable Quotes:

• Dan Patrick at [16:04]: "If I could go back and do a do over, I would say no replay and let it happen."
• Nate Thompson at [34:42]: "I think Aaron levels up for them; he just does."
• Colleen Witt at [34:03]: "He’s got to be relentless on the field. And his pedigree is impressive."

The segment not only entertains but also provides valuable insights into listener perspectives and real-time sports analysis.

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7. Conclusion and Wrap-Up ([56:22] - End)

As the episode concludes, Dan Patrick reflects on the discussed topics, reiterating the importance of strategic decisions in sports team management and the ongoing evolution of sports rules like instant replay. The panelists share final thoughts, maintaining the show's blend of informative content and lighthearted banter.

“This is multiple year bridge for Aaron because they don't have a surefire long-term solution...”
– Nate Thompson ([31:18])

Dan wraps up by thanking the guests and listeners, encouraging audience participation for future episodes, and teasing upcoming discussions on the live edition of the show.

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Final Thoughts

This episode of The Dan Patrick Show masterfully balances in-depth sports analysis with interactive elements, catering to both casual fans and hardcore enthusiasts. Through spirited debates, expert insights, and engaging audience interaction, Dan Patrick and his panelists provide a comprehensive and entertaining exploration of current sports dynamics.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Dan Patrick ([03:13]): “Daniel Jones is going in thinking he gets a real chance to be the starter in the NFL.”
• Dan Patrick ([16:27]): “Instant replay has been a good-ish thing for sports. Be weird to not have replay watching a game.”
• Colleen Witt ([15:52]): “I'd say it's been mostly bad. It made us litigious sports fans watching from minute to minute.”
• Nate Thompson ([34:42]): “I think it will be running backs. This year has a strong cohort of talented backs who can change the game dynamically.”
• Louis Riddick ([34:39]): “Aaron levels up for them; he just does.”
• Dan Patrick ([56:22]): “Thanks for the phone calls, emails, tweets. We'll talk to you tomorrow.”

These quotes encapsulate the episode's key discussions, providing listeners with direct insights from the hosts and guests.

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[Dan Patrick]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. It's the final hour on this Tuesday. Dan and the DANEDS Dan Patrick Show. The Minister of Humor, Fritzy Dylan's in for Seaton for one more day. Marvin Paulie, yours truly, Lewis Riddick from the mothership. He'll join us. Coming up, we'll try to make sense of what's happened over the last 48 hours. And finally, the quarterbacking news we have been waiting to tell you about. Daniel Jones is going to the Colts.

[Colleen Witt]

Hesitated.

[Dan Patrick]

Pause for dramatic effect. I'm guessing he's going as a backup, but I'm going to guess Daniel Jones probably thinks this should be an open competition with Anthony Richardson. This might be another chance to be the starter in the NFL. Anthony Richardson, kind of hit or miss. He's still young, what, 22. But Daniel Jones is not exactly old. But Daniel Jones feels like he's been around too long. But getting an opportunity after what happened when he got released from the Giants, went to Minnesota, sat there. Now you're going to get a chance to probably compete. Yes. Marvin, early pick for comeback player of the year, Daniel Jones. You want to take him? You got him. I'm in. Okay, that's your guy. Go ahead. The Eagles have traded their cornerback, C.J. gardner Johnson to the Texans. They got an offensive lineman, Kenyon Green. This according to Ian Rapoport. So this just happened here. But C.J. gardner Johnson, he's good. So the Tex, I'm trying to understand what the Texans are doing. They got draft picks, Laramie Tunsil went to Washington and now you get a defensive back and then you trade an offensive lineman. I hope you're getting some offensive considering you gave up the second most sacks in the NFL last year. I hope you're getting some offensive linemen in the draft. You know, you may, it may not seem like you had five offensive linemen last year, but you have to have five offensive linemen. Just for each play. You have to have five offensive linemen. All right, 877-3-DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP Show Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, thank you for downloading the app. We played the Cooper flag game last hour. It had to do with the ACC of Being freshman of the year and also being the player of the year in the acc. And there have been three other players. All three were at Duke. You had Zion. You had Jalil Okafor and Marvin Bagley Jr. III. Wow. And Cooper. Flag. All right, here was the question, Trivia question. And somebody asked me this question over the weekend. The last time a white player was taken number one overall who was born in the United States, so not European. Number one pick overall in the draft. Marvin, I'll start with you.

[Nate Thompson]

I gotta go a ways back. Bill Walton.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, Paulie.

[Colleen Witt]

I went piece by piece. Kent Benson out of Indiana is my guest, Todd.

[Dan Patrick]

Dan Issel. Okay.

[Nate Thompson]

I'm going. Bill Walton, too.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. It is Kent Benson by the Milwaukee Bucks. And that was the year that was at what, let me see. Walton would have been 74. Kent Benson might have been 77. Correct, 77. Because they had a. That was a great team with Scott May, Quinn Buckner, the last team to go undefeated. What, 76. Indiana Hoosiers with Bob Knight. That. Kent Benson went to Milwaukee. Probably most famous for getting in a fight with Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Benson. I. I don't know what happened, what precipitated this, but it looked like Benson elbowed Kareem and then Kareem ended up punching him. Dennis Autry, I believe, is another player who got into a fight with Kareem early in Kareem's career, trying to rough him up. Yes, Paulie.

[Colleen Witt]

A couple players taken in the 77 draft after Kent Benson, which is everybody, by the way. Jack Sigma, Bernard King, the New Jersey Nets, Ernie Grunfeld and some other good players.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, so Ernie Grunfeld played with Bernard King of his. Ernie and Bernie, or Bernie and Ernie at Tennessee. So you had two New York guys who somehow made it to Tennessee back then. You know, there. There are moves now where I'm removed from it. Back then, I didn't think anything of it. When I'm young, I'm like, of course, you know, the best player in New York's going to end up in Los Angeles. That Lou Alcindor would leave New York City and he would go out to ucla. And then all of a sudden you find out that there was a sugar daddy at UCLA who happened to guide some players there for Coach Wooden. And then, you know, Ernie Grunfeld and Bernard King, I believe both. I know Bernard was from New York. I think Ernie was from New York as well. But they ended up in Tennessee. Things that make you go now, but back then you're like, oh, wow, they got that guy. Yes, Marvin.

[Nate Thompson]

And it's not even like it was North Carolina, Duke, Kentucky, one of those blue bloods.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, no knock to Tennessee basketball, but.

[Nate Thompson]

I'm not thinking if I'm a top rated prospect from Brooklyn, I'm going to Knoxville.

[Dan Patrick]

Tennessee, you wouldn't think so, but South Carolina used to have this pipeline from New York City players. Frank McGuire when he coached at South Carolina and this going back a long time, but he would always get New York players to play in South Carolina. I don't know what they were offering back then. Kentucky would always get some Kentucky based players, but then they would get some players where not they weren't necessarily from Kentucky, but Kentucky was spending money whether you were local or not. But you know Kentucky basketball. There's so many great prospects, or at least there used to be, that they could just keep them in house, you know, like Daryl Griffith, Dr. Dunkenstein, you know, he was from Louisville. Yes, Marvin.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah, but I think that's the case with most top programs. Kansas is a great program, but I bet a ton of those guys aren't.

[Dan Patrick]

From Kansas and Missouri.

[Nate Thompson]

They're from all over the country. Chicago to Kansas had a great pipeline. It would always be like, who's the best player in Chicago?

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know, but he's going to Kansas. All right, poll question for the final hour of the program there, Dylan, wearing your. Is that Tampa Bay Lightning sweater?

[Nate Thompson]

This is actually Tampa Bay Airport sweater, Dan. This is just repping the city of tampa.

[Colleen Witt]

Like those $20 sweatshirts on the way back.

[Nate Thompson]

There's actually two for 35.

[Dan Patrick]

I thought that that had to do with Tampa, like Tampa Bay sports team.

[Nate Thompson]

No, I'm just a fan of the city.

[Dan Patrick]

It looks really good.

[Nate Thompson]

I know. For an airport piece of junk. Not bad, right?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, it looks nice.

[Nate Thompson]

It's got like the college lettering.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, it looks, could be University of Tampa. Yes, it does. It looks very nice. All right, poll question for the final hour of the program.

[Nate Thompson]

Well, we could switch it up a little bit, Dan, with the Garrett Cole situation. I know we touched on it, but would you sign a hard throwing starting pitcher to an expensive long term deal?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes or no? No. And this isn't revisionist history and it is a loaded question. No, no, no, no, no, no. I, I, I just can't. Not the way they pitch now. And a power pitcher. I can't. It just, I think it's stupid. And they, you know, the Yankees are going to be without Garrett Colt. Now they may say, hey, you know, we've had some good years with him. You know, he's been a Cy Young winner. He won two games in the World Series. But, man, you're that 10 year, 250 or $300 million. I just can't do it. I don't even want to do it with a hitter. I. I just. Too many things can go wrong, you know, Five years would be my max. Now, I might be a terrible GM and out of a job, but I. I just think there are too many ebbs and flows. There's too many fluky things that can happen, especially a pitcher. What's the. What's the contract with Garrett Cole?

[Colleen Witt]

Over the next four years, the New York Yankees owe Garrett Cole $155 million.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, well, okay. That one's not as stupid as Giancarlo Stanton. When they signed him. I go, boy, are you desperate, because that guy can't play. I mean, he can hit a home run, but he can't do anything. Can't stay healthy, can't put him in the field. And I think he's injured again to start spring training. How do you get injured going into spring training? Yes, Paul.

[Colleen Witt]

In seven seasons with the Yankees, Giancarlo. Giancarlo Stanton has made one All Star game whilst making $200 million. Yeah, and he has another. He's got another 130 on the way.

[Dan Patrick]

It's terrible. Stat of the day. Stat of the day. Here comes.

[Nate Thompson]

Here comes that what?

[Dan Patrick]

Stat of the day. Stat of the day. Brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the DP show Horizon League tonight. Northeast CAA and wcc, they will have tournament bids coming up tonight. Sam Darnold going to Seattle. His 35 touchdown passes with the Vikings are the most by a player who then change teams in the off season, topping blank. Paul, this guy had the most touchdown passes. And then the following season was with another team. Okay. Sam Darnold had 35, surpassing this player.

[Nate Thompson]

Paul.

[Colleen Witt]

Brett Favre?

[Dan Patrick]

No. Good guess. Marvin?

[Nate Thompson]

Warren Moon? No.

[Dan Patrick]

Todd Warner? No. Dylan?

[Nate Thompson]

Ben Roethlisberger?

[Dan Patrick]

No. What?

[Nate Thompson]

I didn't Hear the question.

[Dan Patrick]

11 was 11.

[Nate Thompson]

11. I tried to do one better than 11, which was Ben Roethlisberger.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. And he never played for another team, but okay. I mean, he played quarterback, though. He did.

[Nate Thompson]

He played. All I heard was quarterbacks being listed.

[Dan Patrick]

You are. You're repping the back row quite well.

[Nate Thompson]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

You're imitating Fritzi.

[Nate Thompson]

I'm a continuity guy.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Here you go. This guy is one of our favorites in A good way and a bad way. Say hello to Jameis Winston. Everybody remember, he was the 3030 club. He had 33 touchdown passes and 30 interceptions.

[Colleen Witt]

Someone's catching a touchdown.

[Dan Patrick]

He went from the Buccaneers to The Saints in 2019. This is the start of the day, by the way. Today is the anniversary of one of the more impactful, revolutionary, controversial, still controversial rules. Anybody want to take a guess? I. I don't want to give you the time period, but it is the anniversary of. Of, I believe, the first time that this rule was implemented. If you want to call it a rule. Yeah, Paulie, I know I'm wrong.

[Colleen Witt]

The shot clock.

[Dan Patrick]

You're wrong. It's instant replay. 1986 was the first time it was used. Has it been a good thing, as replay been a good thing, Marvin? Yes, all except the Des Brian catch. It's been great. Okay. Todd, do you think instant replay has been. Well, replay has been a good thing, yes. Okay. Dylan, don't say Ben Rolflisberger.

[Nate Thompson]

Ben. No, I think it's a necessary evil.

[Dan Patrick]

But it has flaws. All right, Paul.

[Colleen Witt]

I'd say it's been mostly bad. It made us litigious sports fans watching from minute to minute.

[Dan Patrick]

You would rather have something that you think you saw.

[Colleen Witt]

If I could go back and do a do over, I would say no replay and let it. Let it happen.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Colleen Witt]

And I think. I think the majority would go with that.

[Dan Patrick]

You still have to get it right. Yeah.

[Colleen Witt]

But I think people love the human element and they think it'll balance the fact. Balance itself out. You get a couple, you lose a couple.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. I don't want the human elephant. It might be the human elephant.

[Colleen Witt]

I'd say the viewing experience has been hurt because of the delays. It adds drama sometimes. And you're like, look at the replay. You're screaming at the tv. So that helps, too.

[Dan Patrick]

I think it's a. I agree. It's a necessary evil. It's entertainment. It's. It's impacted a lot of games, a lot of sports. The fact that, you know, when we didn't have it, I. We didn't know what we didn't have. And then you realize that and you're like, how many, how many moments in sports history would have been changed if you had replay? Now everybody's going to go back to the immaculate reception. Instant replay wouldn't have changed. They wouldn't have overruled that. The call on the field would have stood because you still can't tell when you watch that. But I think for the most part, it's been a good ish thing for sports. Be weird to not have replay watching a game. Let me get to Andrew in Washington. Then we'll take a break. We'll talk to. Let's see. Lewis Riddick from the mothership is going to stop by. Hey, Andrew.

[Nate Thompson]

Good morning, Dan, Dennis.

[Dan Patrick]

Thanks for taking my call. Just had a little thing on the Lakers. I think le groin is good for the Lakers. I disagree with Marv. Agree with Paulie. You can't prove a strained groin. Sort of like a stomach flu. And so it gives them a little bit of rest before the playoff push. I don't think it matters where we go. I think the Lakers will end up in the finals as far as whatever their seeding is in the playoffs. I do have a NFL draft tie to the face bet with Paulie. We've done this two or three years. My bet, if Paulie wants to take it, is that more running backs will be taken in the first round than quarterbacks. And if there's a tie, we both take a pie. All right. Right now it feels like there's two quarterbacks that you can pencil in first round and two running backs right now. So, Andrew, are you taking running backs?

[Nate Thompson]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

I think there'll be more running backs.

[Nate Thompson]

Than quarterbacks taken in the first round of this year. NFL draft.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, Paul, I will take that.

[Colleen Witt]

I think he's riding the wave of running back too high. There may be two. I think someone's going to jump back into the first round and draft Jackson dart.

[Dan Patrick]

But just so you know, if you.

[Colleen Witt]

Tie, tie goes to the runner.

[Dan Patrick]

Ty goes. No, Ty goes to the pie. You both get pies.

[Colleen Witt]

So I have to win to unpie myself.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, you do. And by the way, the weather is nice. And a front row and a back row guy have pies. I think Friday we should. We should do that. PI equals U2 squared.

[Nate Thompson]

Okay.

[Dan Patrick]

See what I did with that, Todd?

[Nate Thompson]

Very clear.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, thank you. Weather permitting. Okay, Paulie, what's the forecast for Friday?

[Colleen Witt]

You said the over under was 49 and a half degrees.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Colleen Witt]

For pie weather.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Colleen Witt]

High of 51 on Friday.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Yes. It's going to be pie day. We're going to do this on pie day. See if I did it.

[Nathan King]

It's a meat.

[Dan Patrick]

A meat pie day. What? Marvin, it's 50 degrees. Yeah, I said 49 and a half.

[Nate Thompson]

That's not warm enough for no pie.

[Dan Patrick]

No, it is. No, come on.

[Nate Thompson]

Oh, I'm soft.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, you are. Yes.

[Colleen Witt]

You'll get no argument.

[Dan Patrick]

It's not a polar plunge. It's a pie to the face. Yes. Dylan.

[Nate Thompson]

What if Marvin's allowed to sit in his car and crank the heat and he takes the pie in there?

[Dan Patrick]

You would like, you like to do it?

[Colleen Witt]

Nice recovery, Dylan.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, we can do that. I'm in. All right. So pie to the pie to the face on Friday, Todd. Let's do it. Okay, we'll take a break. We'll talk to Louis Riddick, the mothership. More phone calls as well. We're back after this. On the Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Hey, Steve Covino.

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[Nate Thompson]

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[Nate Thompson]

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[Julie Stewart-Banks]

It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League, and I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson.

[Nate Thompson]

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[Julie Stewart-Banks]

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[Nate Thompson]

We'll have plenty of folks join us. Current players, some of my former teammates, hall of Famers, and wait to see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

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[Nate Thompson]

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Listen to EnergyLine with Nate and JSB on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nate Thompson]

Ever wonder what it would be like to be mentored by today's top business leaders? My podcast this Is Working can help with that. Here's advice from Google CMO Lorraine Twohill on how to treat AI like a partner. I see AI as an incredible co pilot. You may use different tools or toys to get the work done, but ultimately as editor, as creator, as maker, you own it and it needs to be good. AI is just the latest flavor of that. You're still the judge of what good looks like. I'm Dan Roth, LinkedIn's editor in chief. On my podcast this Is Working. Leaders like Indra Nooyi, Ray Dalio and Rich Paul share strategies for success and the real lessons that have shaped them. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Mark Seale.

[Nathan King]

And I'm Nathan King. This is Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli.

[Dan Patrick]

The five families did not want us.

[Nate Thompson]

To shoot that picture.

[Nathan King]

Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli is based on my co host Mark's best selling book of the same title. And on this show we call upon his years of research to help unpack the story behind the Godfather's birth. From start to finish, this is really.

[Nate Thompson]

The first interview I've done in bed.

[Nathan King]

We sift through through innumerable accounts. 35 pages isn't very much, many of them conflicting.

[Dan Patrick]

That's nonsense.

[Nathan King]

There were 60 pages and try to get to the truth of what really happened. And they said we're finished, this is over.

[Dan Patrick]

It only is not going to work.

[Nate Thompson]

You gotta get rid of those guys. It's a disaster.

[Nathan King]

Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli features new and archival interviews with Francis Ford Coppola, Robert Evans, James Caan, Talia Shire and many others.

[Nate Thompson]

Yes, that was a real horse's head.

[Nathan King]

Listen and subscribe to Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Bob Pippman, chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia. I'm excited to introduce a brand new season of my podcast Math and Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing. I'm having conversations with some interesting folks across a wide range of industries to hear how they reach the top of their fields and the lessons they learned along the way that everyone can use. I'll be joined by innovative leaders like chairman and CEO of Elf Beauty, Tarang Amin. The way I approach risk is constantly try things and actually make it okay to fail. I'm sitting down with legendary singer, songwriter and philanthropist Jewel.

[Nate Thompson]

I wanted a way to do something.

[Nathan King]

That I loved for the rest of my life. We're also hearing how leaders brought their businesses out of unprecedented times, like Stephane Bonsell, CEO of Moderna.

[Dan Patrick]

It becomes a human decision to decide to throw by the window your business strategy and to do what you think is the right thing for the world.

[Nathan King]

Join me as we uncover innovations in data and analytics, the math and the ever important creative spark, the magic. Listen to math and magic stories from the frontiers of Marketing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention.

[Nate Thompson]

This is a story about radical nuns.

[Nathan King]

In combat boots and wild haired priests trading blows with J. Edgar Hoover in a hell bent effort to sabotage a war.

[Nate Thompson]

J. Edgar Hoover was furious somebody violated the FBI and he wanted to bring the Catholic left to its knees.

[Nathan King]

The FBI went around to all their neighbors and said to them, do you think these people are good Americans?

[Nate Thompson]

It's got heists, tragedy, a trial of.

[Nathan King]

The century and the God damnedest love story you've ever heard.

[Dan Patrick]

I picked up the phone and my.

[Nate Thompson]

Thought was this is the most important phone call I'll ever make in my life.

[Colleen Witt]

I couldn't believe it.

[Nate Thompson]

I mean Brendan, it was Divine intervention.

[Nathan King]

Listen to Divine intervention on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

I watched a little bit of UConn women beat Creighton in the Big east tournament championship game. Paige Beckers had 24 points. I don't think Paige Beckers ever lost a conference game in her career. I believe she went 660 against competition in the Big East. Marvin, you might check that being a Yukon Husky fan. I'm check that right now. I think, I think she went 660 against the big East. All righty, more phone calls. Coming up, Lewis Riddick from the mothership, ESPN college football NFL analyst and former front office executive with the Eagles and Washington. All right, instant Replay came into our world on this day in 1986. Has instant replay been good for sports or bad?

[Nate Thompson]

Look, I think it's, it's been both. And I know that sounds like a little bit of a cop out, right? I think you, you want to maintain as much of the human element, the game as possible. You don't want to slow it down too much. You don't want to have it be a constant barrage of replays. But you know what, when there are game changing plays, games, I mean plays that can really, just really substantially affect the outcome and you know that they are blatantly missed, I think that's when replay, when it gets it right in those kind of situations, I think that's good for the game because I think ultimately that's what we all want. We want the, you know, we want the right teams to win by abiding by the rules and the teams to be punished that don't abide by the rules. So it's, you're never, Dan, I don't think you're ever gonna have like 100 consensus of whether or not replay is good, gifted game or not. Because as soon as you start, there's too many replays, people start complaining about the fact that it's slowing down the game. And you know what, just let the refs ref. And then as soon as refs missed and as soon as the refs miss a call, it's like, which, which league do the ref suck more? Is it the NBA or is it the NFL? Is it the script? Are these games rigged? Is Roger Goodell trying to protect Patrick Mahomes? Blah, blah, blah. No one's ever happy. That's kind of like the world we live in right now.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I was always bothered it came in as instant replay, then they changed it to replay because it wasn't instant. So that was one of my big problems. All right, let me. You, you worked in two front offices. You worked for the Eagles in Washington. I'm going to put you in the Steelers front office.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

You decide who's going to be your quarterback between Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers.

[Nate Thompson]

I would look, I would, I would go with, with Aaron because I said all along I believe the organization needs him. He needs this kind of organization, I think at this point in his career. What's my rationale for that? Why do they need him? Pittsburgh needs to level up somehow some way at quarterback. They just do. They have been stuck in this kind of like mid range, mid tier mode of operating at that position and figured as though Mike Tomlin could coach his way around and the defense could create enough turnovers to get around it. They can run the ball well enough to get around it. They could play renegade enough to where they would create some kind of magic in the stadium and that would be enough. And it's not enough. They've got to level up somehow, and that's either through veteran, the veteran market, or the draft where they're drafting right now. Is it possible for them to still get someone late in the first round that could wind up helping them at the position? Yeah, I believe that there is. But when we're just talking about free agency, Aaron levels up for them. He just does with his knowledge, which I would. I still think he has left in the gas tank as far as his ability to play the game and how he could help this offense, in particular the passing game, become more dynamic. He will need to abide by a much more rigid structure in Pittsburgh and not think that he can come in there and bring in all of his buddies, bring in, got in there and pick, hand pick his offensive coordinator and call the plays that he wants all the time and like basically run the show. He's not running the show and he doesn't really need to at this point and I wouldn't. I wouldn't entrust him to do that anymore anyway. And Mike's not going to let him do that and Arthur Smith's not going to let him do that. So I think he needs to just focus on playing ball, coming back the second year off of this Achilles and actually going out the way he wants to go out and have people look at him the way he wants people to look at him. Pittsburgh needs to level up. So, yeah, I think it's a. I think it's a good combination on the surface. Now, we don't know how Mike feels about that. We don't know how Arthur Smith feels about that. We don't know how DK Metcalf and George Pickens are going to react to Aaron Rodgers getting in their rear end about not doing things the right way. There's a lot of things that still would have to be worked out, but that's. That's. That's the same. The same thing is true with every free agent transaction. There's always going to be things to work out.

[Dan Patrick]

But then does Russ in the game of musical chairs end up with the Giants?

[Nate Thompson]

Probably. He probably does. And you know what I think? Look, I think both of these guys at this point in time in their career are bridge players. It's just a matter of whether or not that's a one year bridge or a multiple year bridge. In Pittsburgh, it could be a multiple year bridge for Aaron because they don't have a. They're not really in position to get what we would term as a surefire long term solution given where they're, where they're drafting. So he may be going into, he could be possibly going into a situation there where he could extend this thing to two, maybe three years if he wanted to play that long. If you're in, if you're in New York, you know for sure Russell Wilson, that being Russell Wilson knows for sure that as soon as he walks in there, he's already on the clock. They're already thinking about what the next option is and it may be this year, who knows? But they may think, hey, you know what? We'll sit Pat, we'll play with Russ for a year. We'll draft Travis Hunter, maybe we'll move down. Who knows, maybe we'll accumulate some more picks and continue to try and build out this roster which is. You know what, I'll tell you what. I know it sounds like I'm going to be ranting here a little bit, but that, that's probably one of the most annoying things for me to hear at this time of year all the time is let's trade down and get more picks and build up the roster and then just plug. Getting the quarterback like you just pick one off of my grandma's cherry tree and plug him in there. But that may be what they're thinking. I don't know if I'm Joe Shane right now though. I'm Brian Dael. I'm thinking I need to win some games, man, and I need to win them this year. So that's what makes this time of year so fun to see how these teams ultimately wind up constructing the roster, who they get and then how it pans out in New York. There's going to be no team you talk about more next year than the Giants, that's for sure.

[Dan Patrick]

And we have a bet on the show. The Will there be more running backs than quarterbacks taken in the first quarter?

[Nate Thompson]

I heard you guys talking about that. All right, that's a good one.

[Dan Patrick]

What do you think?

[Nate Thompson]

I think it will be running backs. Months ago, a GM who I respect a ton said, look, this is the best year I've seen for running back since I've been a general manager. He's been a general manager for a little bit now and he's someone who really does do a good job of evaluating that position in particular. And I agree. I've seen a bunch of these guys in person this year. And when you start watching the tape, you have guys who are big, strong, powerful dudes. And you've got some guys who are kind of like Jameer Gibbs. I don't want to say scat back type dudes, but guys who are real electric in terms of their ability to stop, start and go 70, 80 on you. And even the big dudes can do that. I mean, you look at Omarion Hampton, you start thinking, Joe Mixon. I mean, you. I'm sitting there watching him and I'm going, is that Joe Mixon in a North Carolina uniform? And then you look at Aston and I'm telling you, people's, you know, people think I'm crazy. I'm going, that's Emmett Smith with better speed. That's what it is. That's what that is. I watch Prashard Smith from smu. I'm sitting there going, if that ain't Jameer Gibbs, I don't know who is. There's all kinds, man. There's all kinds. And if you need, if you're, if you need it back this year, I mean, you may not take him in the top 10, top 15, although I think Ashton deserves to go that high. I think you will see this will be a heavy year for backs going in the first round, top of the second for sure. And once that run starts, they're going to be people just picking them up for sure.

[Dan Patrick]

Louis Riddick, part of ESPN's ongoing NFL free agent coverage. You can catch him with Adam Schefter and more today on ESPN from three until five. You're sold on Cam Ward going as the number one. Number one quarterback. Are you sold that Shador Sanders is a first round quarterback?

[Nate Thompson]

Yes, I am.

[Dan Patrick]

Top 15 type quarterback.

[Nate Thompson]

He's a top half of the first round. He's a top half.

[Dan Patrick]

But where is this negativity coming from? And I like, it's on the field and then a little bit off the field with how he interviewed with one coach at the combine, it feels like it was a smear campaign because once it happened, then all of a sudden it's boom. Everybody kind of jumped on this.

[Nate Thompson]

Why, of course, look, they've been trying to. People have been at this game, so to speak, of trying to talk certain prospects down for years. Dion is a lightning rod. That's where it starts. It doesn't even start with Shadora. This is about. This starts with his father and then it just trickles down to him. And it starts with his father. It's been that way since I played with Dion back in 1992 in Atlanta. People don't like flashy guys like that who can back it up. They just don't. They don't like people who are strong, confident. They're. You know, it's funny. Like, we love it, but then with some people we don't love. With Dion, he's always been a polarizing player to the people who don't know him. If you know him personally, you would be like, I get it and I love it. Give me more of it. With Shador, he has some of his father in him. There's no question. How could he not? He's the man. I mean, he's. He's the man's son. And so a lot of it comes from who he is and what his last name is. Now, as far as him individually, what. Why do they pick at him on the field? Does he have Cam Ward's arm? No. Do you need Cam Ward's arm? Do you need John Elway's arm? Do you need Josh Allen's arm in order to play high level winning football in the NFL? No. But at this time of year, we always fall back to those baseline. Those baseline, baseline levels in terms of, like, evaluating quarterbacks and saying, well, if you don't have a rocket arm, you can't play. If you don't run four, four like Lamar, and can create outside of structure and throw the ball and switch it to your left hand like Patrick Mahomes, you can't play. You're either a Hall of Famer or you suck. And that's what it always comes down to at this time of year with quarterback, there is no in between. And quite honestly, I think that that discussion stems from the fact that I don't know if people really ever know what the hell they really think about quarterbacks because it's such a dependent position and it's so hard to get your arms around it. Shador is very smart. He can process like hell. He's a good leader. He's got good feet in the pocket. He throws a great ball. He has a lot of anticipation and he's tough as hell. He got the crap bait out of him at Colorado. Yeah, I was at games and calling games where I'm sitting there looking at Dion, who is like, pleading with his son, throw the ball away. Or pleading with offensive coordinator, run the ball. My son's getting murdered out here. He'll be fine. They'll be just Fine.

[Dan Patrick]

Daniel Jones just signed with the Colts.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Is he going in thinking he gets to compete for that job?

[Nate Thompson]

There's no question. I mean, why else would you switch teams at this point, considering what you have in Minnesota in terms of the weapons that they have, the coaching staff? And I'm not taking anything away from Shane Steichen because a lot of respect for Shane. Daniel Jones is looking for an opportunity to really compete, to play, and you're not going to tell me otherwise that the people in Indianapolis didn't tell him that you are going to have a chance to compete. We want somebody to push Anthony, and if you beat him out, you beat him out. Simple as that. That isn't happening in Minnesota. They are trying to get JJ ready to play this year. They're not going to force it, but they're trying to get him ready to play. The way he looked last offseason and the way he looked in the first preseason game against the Raiders. Told you. This kid's developmental arc is going to go straight up. There's a reason why they drafted him 10th overall. It reminds me a little bit of the way Kansas City was trying to bring along Patrick when he. When they had Alex Smith there. The only thing that derailed things is that he got hurt, is that JJ got hurt. Daniel knows that he was there every day. He knows how they feel about him. He knows he doesn't really have a chance to start there. If JJ is JJ's knees, fine, it's over. That's why he went to Indy. And if I'm Anthony Richardson right now, what I'm really interested to see is how he responds, Dan, to this. How does he respond? It's going to be. I hate it for the kid. It's going to be so hard for him to ever shake the stigma that's going to follow him, the story that's going to follow him because of that one decision he made down there in Houston.

[Dan Patrick]

How many years did you play defensive back?

[Nate Thompson]

Seven.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, how many? Give me the number of quarterbacks that actually made you nervous. I don't want to say scared.

[Nate Thompson]

Oh, you can say scared. Yeah, yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Who scared you? When you go, oh, my God, we're.

[Nate Thompson]

Playing him, John Elway, because he had TD with him, had Rod Smith, had Shannon Sharp, offensive line, had Tom Nayland, Mark Schler, Dan Neal, Tony Jones. And that play action passing game was just so ridiculously good. That was the year the td went for 2000. And it was just like as a safety, I was like, I know I got to get up here and support this run, because when this guy starts going downhill, it's over. And these linemen start getting up on you, it's over. And I did that one time early in the game, and Elway pulled that thing out of there and launched it. And I'm telling in mid play, you can. I can tell you, you can already guess the words that were coming out of my mouth.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh.

[Nate Thompson]

Oh, yeah, all of them. F. Words. Everything. The thing. The only thing that saved me, honestly, was Charles Woodson was the corner and he broke the play up. And I remember jogging back to the huddle and I was like. And he was like, hey, you know. But, yeah, Elway Marino, I got to play against Danny when he was. When he had Mark Duper and Mark Clayton and Keith Jackson and those guys down in Miami. He came out. First play of the game. He comes out and you stand there at the line and he looks at me and he winked, and I went, what does that mean? Does he mean. Does that mean I found my guy? Or does that mean, you know, hail the pit? What does that mean, man? So, yeah, those dudes were. Steve. Oh, you know what? It would be disrespectful for me to dismiss Steve Young. Steve when he was. When they were in San Francisco, I played against them when I was in. When I was in Atlanta and when I was in Cleveland. They had it rolling at that time, Dan. I mean, they had it rolling. Steve was so mobile and so fast and Brent Jones was so crafty, and they had Jerry and they had John Taylor and Ricky Waters, and it was just like. I mean, it was a. Come on, this isn't fair. It's not fair. So, yeah, I got to play against some great ones, man. I mean, so much respect for those guys where you literally were like, I can't make a mistake. I can't. And even if you need. If you were perfect sometimes, it just didn't matter.

[Dan Patrick]

Always great to spend time. I know it's a busy time for you, but thanks for carving out. Of course. A few minutes, buddy.

[Nate Thompson]

Always, man. Thanks.

[Dan Patrick]

That's Lewis Riddick of the mothership NFL free agency coverage on ESPN. That'll be later today from 3 until 5. We'll take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learn, what's in store for tomorrow. After this, be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League and I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson.

[Nate Thompson]

I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have plenty to say. And not just about hockey.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Believe me, he does. Energy Line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast and it's going to be, well, it's going to be quite the ride. We're officially linemates, Nate. We're the Energy Line.

[Nate Thompson]

We'll have plenty of folks join us, current players, some of my former teammates, hall of Famers, and wait to see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Okay. We'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey and try to do what energy lines are supposed to do, provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate?

[Nate Thompson]

I'm vibing Julie. I'm ready to roll.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Listen to EnergyLine with Nate and JSB on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nate Thompson]

Ever wonder what it would be like to be mentored by today's top business leaders? My podcast this Is Working can help with that. Here's Advice from Google CMO Lorraine2Hill on how to treat AI like a partner. I see AI as an incredible co pilot. You may use different tools or toys to get the work done, but ultimately, as editor, as creator, as maker, you own it and it needs to be good. AI is just the latest flavor of that. You're still the judge of what good looks like. I'm Dan Roth, LinkedIn's editor in chief. On my podcast this Is Working. Leaders like Indra Nooyi, Ray Dalio and Rich Paul share strategies for success and the real lessons that have shaped them. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Mark Seal.

[Nathan King]

And I'm Nathan King. This is Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli.

[Dan Patrick]

The five families did not want us.

[Nate Thompson]

To shoot that picture.

[Nathan King]

Leave the Gun Take the Cannoli is based on my co host Mark's best selling book of the same title. And on this show we call upon his years of research to help unpack the story behind the Godfather's birthday. From start to finish, this is really.

[Nate Thompson]

The first interview I've done in bed.

[Nathan King]

We sift through innumerable accounts. 35 pages isn't very much, many of them conflicting.

[Nate Thompson]

That's nonsense.

[Nathan King]

There were 60 pages and try to get to the truth of what really happened. And they said, we're finished.

[Nate Thompson]

This is over.

[Dan Patrick]

It only is not going to work.

[Nate Thompson]

You got to get rid of those guys. It's disaster.

[Nathan King]

Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli features new and archival interviews with Francis Ford Coppola, Robert Evans, James Caan, Talia Shire and many others.

[Nate Thompson]

Yes, that was a real horse's head.

[Nathan King]

Listen and subscribe to Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia. I'm excited to introduce a brand new season of my podcast, Math and Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing. I'm having conversations with some interesting folks across a wide range of industries to hear how they reach the top of their fields and the lessons they learned along the way that everyone can use. I'll be joined by innovative leaders like chairman and CEO of Health Beauty, Tarang Amin. The way I approach risk is constantly try things and actually make it okay to fail. I'm sitting down with legendary singer, songwriter and philanthropist Jewel. I wanted a way to do something that I loved for the rest of my my life. We're also hearing how leaders brought their businesses out of unprecedented times, like Stefan Bonsell, CEO of Moderna.

[Dan Patrick]

It becomes a human decision to decide to throw by the window your business strategy and to do what you think is the right thing for the world.

[Nathan King]

Join me as we uncover innovations in data and analytics, the math, and the ever important creative spark, the Magic. Listen to math and magic stories from the frontiers of Marketing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Nate Thompson]

Something about Mary Poppins.

[Nathan King]

Something about Mary Poppins.

[Nate Thompson]

Exactly. Oh man, this is fun.

[Nathan King]

I'm AJ Jacobs and I am an.

[Nate Thompson]

Author and a journalist and I tend.

[Nathan King]

To get obsessed with stuff and my.

[Nate Thompson]

Current obsession is puzzles and that has.

[Nathan King]

Given birth to my podcast, the Puzzler.

[Nate Thompson]

Dressing Blessing.

[Dan Patrick]

French dressing.

[Nathan King]

Exactly.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, that's good.

[Nathan King]

Now you can get your daily puzzle nuggets delivered straight to your ears.

[Nate Thompson]

I thought to myself, I bet I know what this is. And now I definitely know what this is. This is so weird. This is fun. Let's try this one. Our brand new season features special guests like Chuck Bryant, Mayim Bialik, Julie Bowen, Sam Sanders, Joseph Gordon Levitt, and lots more. Listen to the Puzzler every day on.

[Nathan King]

The iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever.

[Nate Thompson]

You get your podcasts. That's awful and I should have seen.

[Dan Patrick]

It coming Last call for phone calls. What we learned, what's in store tomorrow, all of that on the way. DraftKings has the updated super bowl odds. It is the Eagles the favorites followed by Chiefs, Bills and Ravens and then the Lions. So Eagles be a slight favorite over the Chiefs, Bills and Ravens and the lions according to DraftKings. By the way, I'm looking at the Sam Darnold contract. The real value is the guaranteed money. It's 55 million. So essentially Seattle was committed to Sam Donald for two years. An average of 27 and a half million per year. Very reasonable. In today's, you know, quarterback market, that's very reasonable. And I think Sam Darnold realized if I want to continue to be a starter in the NFL, I have to temper the expectation, financial expectations I might have. Daniel Jones signed a one year deal for $14 million with the Colts. That doesn't feel backup. Ish. $14 million. I think he's going in there thinking I have a real chance to be the starting quarterback here. But that just happened. Also took another option off the table for Aaron Rodgers. Even though we hadn't heard much about the Colts with Aaron Rodgers feels like it's Pittsburgh. Unless they don't want him. And then it would probably be the Giants. Let me see. How about this day in sports history? I gave you one earlier. 1986, the NFL adopts instant replay. What else do you have, Paulie?

[Colleen Witt]

1892, the first organized women's basketball game was played at Smith College between students and faculty members. I do not have the score. I've been looking for it. 1979, I've never heard of this guy. Randy Holt of the LA Kings was penalized nine times for 67 minutes in the first period of a game against the Philadelphia Flyers. That's first period. That's a record. 1990. You know, looking back, this seems a little haphazard. 13 year old Jennifer Capriotti played her first tennis match. You couldn't have waited to 15? 13 seems premature.

[Dan Patrick]

And she was on the COVID of Sports Illustrated.

[Colleen Witt]

And then that's it for today.

[Dan Patrick]

Is she the youngest athlete to ever appear on the COVID of Sports Illustrated at 13? Because I'm trying to think. And you would boy. And. And if you're the magazine and you're the editor, do you want to put somebody on? Who's that? Young Tracy Austin was really young. Was Freddie Ado on the COVID of Sports Illustrated? Checking soccer player. I think he was 15. You got LeBron, Bryce Harper. I think Jennifer Capriotti was 13 when she was on the COVID Yeah.

[Colleen Witt]

I've got a bunch of high school kids like Bryce Harper and different NBA players that were in high school. I'm trying to find someone younger than Capriotti.

[Dan Patrick]

Thirteen. Wow. Okay. Larry in Arkansas. Hi, Larry. What's on your mind today? Dp, how are you? Great. Good. Well, thank you for taking my call. My question is about Shador Sanders. Lewis touched on it just a little bit, but the fact is that with Dion being the dad, how would this impact anybody looking to draft him?

[Nate Thompson]

Would that be a plus, a negative, and, you know, indifference?

[Dan Patrick]

I just have a feeling that with, with Dion being there, there's going to be some teams that may steer away just because of his big personality and just curious about your thoughts. I just want to know if he can play. That's it. If it's a detrimental type of personality, then. Okay, then we have a conversation here. If he's bold, confident, cocky, but he can play. I don't want to pass up on somebody. I just, I think sometimes, you know, we get caught up in silly things. Oh, what's his hand size? You know, even 40 yard dash. I just want, can you play football? And, you know, the pedigree is there. He's not the athlete his dad is, so there's. There are negatives there. And as I pointed out, I put him third on my Heisman ballot because he's tough and he hung in there and that, you know, and I watched a lot of his games. Not highlights games. But you, you know, that's different. That's college. That's what the ward is voted on. And I'm looking at the NFL. He's not, you know, what, six one. He's not going to elude you. Do I think he throws a good ball? Yeah, I guess. But I, you know, does he know how to check at the line of scrimmage? Does he process? Like these are things that are big. That's what I want to know. You get the line of scrimmage, do you know what you're doing? That's it. The other stuff, I don't want to pass up on a. On a talent just because, oh, he comes off as cocky. Chuck and Dayton. Hi, Chuck. What's on your mind? Hey, how are you today? Glad you're taking my call. Yes, I'll make it quick. Your whole music, is that Doc Severinson.

[Nate Thompson]

And the Johnny Carson Band?

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know. I haven't been on hold, but be kind of weird if I was on hold on my own show, but I'LL check that out, Chuck. All right, so my question is sponsored by Tire Rack. If you had to, if you had the pictures, five of the most famous sports photos, who would you pick? I've got three. The 86 Masters with Jack Nicklaus, the alley fight when he's standing over Sonny Liston and Bobby or scoring the goal.

[Nate Thompson]

What other?

[Dan Patrick]

Those are great. Yeah. Ali in the 96 Olympics when he's lighting the. The flame, the urn there or whatever it was. That was pretty dramatic. Yeah. Marvin Jordan's last shot against the utah jazz in 98. Yeah. That's great. Yeah.

[Colleen Witt]

Paulie, the youngest person on the essay cover, besides Capriotti, was a gymnast named Christy Phillips. The New Mary Lou. September 1, 1986.

[Dan Patrick]

How old was she?

[Colleen Witt]

I have her at 14 when she was on the COVID Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Todd, what'd you learn today?

[Nate Thompson]

Bruce Pearl says he's mistaken in the past for the Incredible Hulk, Lou Ferrigno, Greg Brady from the Brady Bunch, and.

[Dan Patrick]

On a good day, Tom Jones. Dylan, what'd you learn today?

[Nate Thompson]

Ben Roethlisberger. Marvin, Paulie is against the replay.

[Dan Patrick]

Paul, what'd you learn?

[Colleen Witt]

Get off my lawn.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you. Thanks for the phone calls, emails, tweets. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Dan and the Dan Ants.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

What's up, everyone? Julie Swerbinks here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson.

[Nate Thompson]

We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb.

[Nate Thompson]

Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right?

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Exactly. And you'll never know who will drop by to join us.

[Nate Thompson]

Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and JSB on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nate Thompson]

Are you hungry? Colleen Witt here and Eating While Broke is back for season four. Every Thursday on the Black Effect Podcast Network. This season we've got a legendary lineup serving up broke dish and even better stories. On the menu we have Tony Baker, Nick Cannon, Melissa Ford, October London and Carrie Harper Howey. Turning Big Macs into big moves. Catch Eating While Broke every Thursday on the Black Effect Podcast Network. IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts. Wherever you get your favorite shows, come hungry for season four. I'm Mark Seal.

[Nathan King]

And I'm Nathan King. This is Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli.

[Nate Thompson]

The five families did not want us to shoot.

[Nathan King]

This podcast is based on my co host Mark Seals best selling book of the same title, Leave The Gun, Take the Cannoli features new and archival interviews with Francis Ford Coppola, Robert Evans, James Caan, Talia Shire and many others.

[Nate Thompson]

Yes, that was a real horse's head.

[Nathan King]

Listen and subscribe to Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Mel Reid, lptour winner and six time Ladies European Tour winner and.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Kyra K. Dixon, NBC Sports Reporter and.

[Nathan King]

And we've got a new podcast, Quiet Please with Mel and Kira.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

We are bringing you spicy takes on sports and pop culture, some interviews with incredible people who have figured out how.

[Nathan King]

To make golf their superpower and iheart WINS Sports Production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nate Thompson]

Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of.

[Nathan King]

Iheart Women's Sports did you know that 70% of people get hired at companies where they already have a connection? I'm Andrew Seaman, LinkedIn's editor at large for jobs and career development and on my podcast Get Hired, I bring you all the information you need to, well, get Hired. Landing a job may be tough, but Get Hired is here for you every step of the way with advice on resumes, networking, negotiation and so much more. Listen to Get Hired with Andrew seaman on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you like to listen.