Hour 3 – Giants Already Got Their First Win, Reggie Miller

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 3 Summary

Episode Title: Giants Already Got Their First Win, Reggie Miller
Date: January 21, 2026
Host: Dan Patrick
Guests: Reggie Miller
Main Theme:
This episode navigates the shifting sands of sports culture, pressure-filled moments, and accountability, with a particular focus on recent NFL and NBA headlines, the personal “what ifs” for both host and guest, and a wide-ranging discussion with Hall of Famer Reggie Miller. The show is marked by candid, self-effacing humor, deep sports insight, and listener engagement on the theme of memorable heartbreaks in sports.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Bills Fire Sean McDermott – The Culture of Blame

[01:16–08:28]

• Owner Terry Pegula’s Press Conference:
  • The Bills’ owner stated his decision to fire coach Sean McDermott was “based off the results of the game in Denver.”
    • “[The owner] said, ‘my decision to bring in a new head coach was based off the results of the game in Denver.’” – Todd Fuhrman [04:51]
  • Dan and the crew debate the fairness and logic of making a major organizational change over one disappointing performance.
• Josh Allen’s Role and Fallout:
  • Responsibility for the loss and subsequent firing is linked to Josh Allen’s underwhelming postseason. “[Now] he got his coach fired is basically what's coming out of this.” – Dan Patrick [05:43]
• Drafting Blame Game:
  • Owner shifts accountability for the Keon Coleman draft pick onto the coaching staff.
• Blame and Culture:
  • The host underscores the chaos of a front office crisis: “This sounds like a mess now... everyone playing the blame game.” – Dan Patrick [06:40]
• Coaching Changes and “Winning the Press Conference”:
  • Discussion on the superficiality and pressure of introductory pressers for new coaches; mentions Harbaugh, McDaniel, and others.
  • Importance and challenge of “creating culture”: “You gotta... change the culture. But what is... culture?” – Dan Patrick [08:37]
  • Anecdote: Jason Garrett admits he “had no idea what he was doing” as a new head coach.

2. Personal Heartbreaks in Sports

[10:42–12:39]

• Dan’s Own Regrets:
  • Missed plays as a young athlete, his on-air Super Bowl mistake with Gronk.
  • Story of incorrectly asking Gronkowski “Did you forget how that felt?”—when it was his first Super Bowl win.
    • “If I said that to Belichick... or ask Brady. But I asked Gronk and yeah, got roughed up a little bit there. But yeah, it's all right.” – Dan Patrick [12:39]
• Theme for Listener Calls:
  • Listeners share their own most memorable “gutting” moments in sports—a communal, cathartic segment.

3. Exclusive Feature Interview: Reggie Miller

[20:00–39:10]

A. Reggie on the Moment That Haunts Him

[20:00–22:48]

• The Missed Free Throw (1994 Eastern Conference Finals, Game 6):
  • Reggie shares the career moment he can’t escape—missing a crucial free throw, letting the Knicks off the hook, and losing a shot at the NBA Finals.
    • “I go one for two and it's a tie ball game... There's a difference between tied and being up because all they did was exhale. They went on to beat us in game six and we lost game seven. … It kills me.” – Reggie Miller [21:22]
• Candid on “Choking”:
  • Reggie admits self-fault, refusing to blame teammates:
    • “Did you choke?” – Todd Fuhrman
    • “I choked.” – Reggie Miller [37:11]

B. NBA Trade Speculation and Team Dynamics

[22:48–34:10]

• Knicks’ Chemistry and Karl-Anthony Towns:
  • The crew discusses ongoing chemistry issues and potential roster moves. Reggie critiques Towns’ fit and the team’s defensive drop-off.
    • “Look, something just isn’t clicking chemistry wise in that locker room... His shooting is atrocious.” – Reggie Miller [23:02]
• Warriors’ Window with Steph Curry:
  • Golden State’s urgency to capitalize on Curry’s late prime; possible moves (DeRozan, Kaminga).
    • “That window is really closing here, Reg.” – Todd Fuhrman [24:25]
• Wild Trade Fantasies—Giannis or Steph Moves?
  • Musings on superstars potentially requesting trades, wild hypotheticals of Steph Curry joining San Antonio alongside Wemby and Castle.
    • “Maybe it’s time that I call someone in the Midwest by the name of Giannis Antetokounmpo and say... the time is now. You're getting older. I'm certainly knocking on Father Time’s door.” – Reggie Miller [26:03]
• Team Building and Experience:
  • Reggie and Dan discuss what would make teams contenders—pairings that might rival current powerhouse squads.

C. Wonders of the NBA’s Young Stars

[32:18–34:10]

• On Cooper Flagg:
  • Firsthand praise for Flagg’s growth and adaptability, with special note for coaching allowing “failure” as growth. “This young man is going to be the face of our game.” – Reggie Miller [33:48]
• On Wembanyama:
  • Acknowledges Wemby’s unique potential: “I just think that the league is his for the next decade.” – Todd Fuhrman [33:54]
  • Dan notes: “If that's the case, then he's going to have to play more than 28 minutes a game. I need more Wemby.” [34:10]

D. College Basketball & Fan Behavior

[34:26–35:17]

• UCLA Students Storming the Court:
  • Panel and Reggie are incredulous about the “lack of sense of history” at UCLA, after students stormed the court following a win—a practice considered below the program’s stature.

E. NFL, Nostalgia, and Accountability

[35:17–39:00]

• Team Fandom:
  • Reggie reaffirms loyalty to the Raiders, discusses iconic football moments.
• Back to NBA Regrets:
  • Returns to the missed free throw story, laying sole responsibility on himself: “When you're the man, it falls right here.” – Reggie Miller [37:44]

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Listener Engagement: Sports Heartbreaks

[40:56–44:22]

• Listeners call in with the plays that haunt them (e.g., Super Bowl heartbreaks, missed game-winning plays), continuing the episode’s theme of sports as an arena for both glory and regret.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “This sounds like a mess now. It just went from a really tough loss where your quarterback didn't play well to everyone playing the blame game.” – Dan Patrick [06:40]
• “You gotta... change the culture. But what is... culture?” – Dan Patrick [08:37]
• “There's a difference between tied and being up because all they did was exhale. … That’s why it just kills me because I... I let them off the hook.” – Reggie Miller [21:22]
• “Did you choke?” – Todd Fuhrman [37:09]
• “I choked.” – Reggie Miller [37:11]
• “When you’re the man, it falls right here.” – Reggie Miller [37:44]
• “Maybe it's time that I call someone in the Midwest by the name of Giannis Antetokounmpo and say... the time is now.” – Reggie Miller [26:03]
• “If that's the case, then he's going to have to play more than 28 minutes a game. I need more Wemby.” – Dan Patrick [34:10]
• “He just doesn’t look comfortable under Mike Brown’s system. And don’t get me started on the defense…” – Reggie Miller [23:02]

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Other Key Segments & Timestamps

• [01:16] – Start of main content (post-intros/ads)
• [04:51] – Todd’s “money quote” from Bills owner
• [10:42] – Dan reflects on personal missed plays and broadcasting errors
• [20:00] – Reggie Miller joins, shares his career “haunt”
• [23:02] – Knicks trade rumors and chemistry issues
• [26:03] – Hypothetical Giannis-Golden State pairing
• [33:48] – Reggie on Cooper Flagg as future NBA face
• [34:26] – UCLA fans storming the court
• [37:09] – Todd: “Did you choke?” Reggie: “I choked.”
• [40:56] – Listener heartbreak calls begin

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Tone & Style

The episode is marked by candid, good-natured self-deprecation, in-depth sports knowledge, and the camaraderie of both hosts and callers. There’s room for both the profound—the haunting weight of a missed opportunity—and playful banter about fan logic, media foibles, and growing up in sports.

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Episode Takeaways

• Front offices and coaching are often scapegoated for players' mistakes—real organizational change is harder than it looks.
• Sports regret is universal, from Hall of Fame pros to weekend warriors—everyone has their “what if.”
• NBA culture is shifting, both in how organizations pursue winning (trades, chemistry) and how fans engage with tradition.
• New stars (Wemby, Flagg) are poised to redefine the sport, but must be given space to fail and grow.

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A rich, relatable episode for anyone who’s lived with a big sports “what if”—or just loves imagining what Steph Curry as a Spur would look like.

Transcript

[Questlove]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Questlove]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Questlove]

My pops was like, that's Rakim. That's who you named after. I just was like damn that I swag. Listen to the Questlove show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Questlove]

Of the Browns or an offensive coordinator somewhere else?

[Dan Patrick]

Right now that's still holding strong at 80 plus percent.

[Questlove]

Would rather would rather be an offensive coordinator somewhere else.

[Dan Patrick]

Biggest snub in the Baseball hall of Fame, Dale Murphy, Don Mattingly or Steve Garvey. Right now Don Mattingly has 48% of the vote followed by Dale Murphy, Steve Garvey. Garvey has 16 of the vote. Man, it's weird. Out of those three, I would say Steve Garvey, I mean a 10 time All Star, four time Gold Glove, won an MVP. And maybe Garvey gets in with the veterans committee. I think they vote in December. Maybe he does get in, but it Certainly feels like they all feel hall of Fame ish. But maybe I was too close to it because growing up and. And watching them or being able to interview them. You know, I remember interviewing Steve Garvey when he was with the Padres. I'm at Shea Stadium. And he insisted on. After batting practice, he had to go back into the dugout or into the locker room because he wanted to comb his hair. And he came out. You know, most ball players have their hat on. Steve had his hat off. And what I remember, unfortunately, is that the airport, LaGuardia, all of the planes that would fly over, and you'd be doing an interview, and, you know, all of a sudden you'd be talking to somebody and be like. And then you go, can I ask that question again? And I remember I had to ask Steve a question three different times because of the planes going over nearby. But that was when he was with the Padres. Dale Murphy, as I'd mentioned, got to know him a little bit more when he went to the Phillies. Wonderful person. And Donnie, baseball. I've known Donnie for 40 years now. 35 years. And they feel hall of Fame like. All right, we'll get to more phone calls coming up. I have the early super bowl lines. If the Seahawks play the Patriots, the Seahawks will be favored by three and a half. This according to DraftKings. Rams favored by three against the Patriots. The Seahawks will be favored by nine and a half against the Broncos. The Rams eight and a half against the Broncos. But the betting lines coming up this weekend. Patriots are favored by five and a half in Denver. The Rams are getting two and a half in Seattle. Bill's ownership, Terry Pagulia, he hold holding a press conference. Their quote that's coming out that says, my decision to bring in a new head coach was based off the results of the game in Denver.

[Questlove]

Wow.

[Dan Patrick]

That'S the money quote there. He made the decision. And can I put it all on him? Like, did it feel like it was that tenuous? Now, we did talk about, is he coaching for his job? So it was no secret that we at least felt RG3 when he joined us, said, Hag said, Finish the sentence. If Buffalo loses in Denver, he said, Sean McDermott loses his job. So I think it was there, whether it was real or not. Well, now we're finding out it was real. He was coaching for his job. But I can't. I can't put this at his feet, all of this. It starts with Josh Allen playing, unlike Josh Allen does in the postseason. Yeah, Todd.

[Questlove]

So if Josh Allen doesn't feel bad enough now he got his coach fired is basically what's coming out of this.

[Dan Patrick]

I think that's a fair point to make. Also, there was another moment in the press conference. The Bill's general manager, Brandon Bean, was answering a question about Keon Coleman and the Bill's wide receivers. And the owner then said, can I interrupt? I'll address the Keon situation. The coaching staff pushed to draft Keon. We're shifting blame here. Keon was going to be a thing, and then I think he was a healthy scratch. I think he came up with a touchdown in the postseason. Likable guy, big time personality. But hey, don't blame me that we drafted him. Drain, you can blame the coaching staff. Gonna be tough for that next head coach coming in. Yes, Marvin.

[Questlove]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

If you're the next head coach. Whoa. I don't want any part of this.

[Questlove]

This sounds like a mess now. It just went from a really tough loss where your quarterback didn't play well to everyone playing the blame game.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Terry Pugula. Yeah, that's tough. Tough. Every coaching candidate for the Bill should be watching or get a copy of the press conference just to make sure you know what you're walking into there and you start pointing fingers. All right, we'll get to some phone calls here. You know, when you win the press conference, we talk about this a lot. That guy, Liam Cohen, when he had his introductory press conference, not good. Who's my guy with Arizona? Jonathan Gannon. Yeah, he didn't do well. The UCLA head coach, DeSean Foster, that didn't go well. Now, it doesn't mean you can't overcome that. Like, you know, you had Mike McDonald, Mike McDaniel, man, we get. Remember when Mike McDonald goes to Seattle, Mike McDaniels, he's in Miami. And then you had Josh McDaniels, and it's like, come on, we figure this out so we don't confuse these. How many of those coaches were hired thinking it was the other one? No, wait, which. Who got the job? Wait, Daniel with an S or no S? Yeah, but Mike McDonald might be the coach of the year, and if not, it might be Mike Brable, but yeah. Winning the press conference, John Harbaugh looked like a million bucks or maybe 15 million bucks because he got in front of the media and he said all the right things yesterday. John, how do you build a winning culture? And how long will it take for this team to win?

[Questlove]

The second part's impossible to say, but I'm planning on day one, so that's.

[Dan Patrick]

What we'll be shooting for.

[Questlove]

That's what we're working for and fully expect it to happen.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, it's that word culture. That's a big word. Used to be chemistry. But you got to win the locker room, but you also got to win the press conference. You got to be when you, you know, speak to the media after a game, after a win, after a loss. But culture is really big. What is the culture here? I don't know. Like, what's the culture in Buffalo right now? What's the culture in Pittsburgh right now? What's the culture in Baltimore? These are more key jobs. Arizona, the culture. It's a losing culture. Tennessee is a tricky culture. Cleveland, losing culture. Yeah, you got to change the culture. But what is. It's almost like when somebody says, you know, just be yourself. You know, whenever you talk to people about, hey, who should I be when I'm on TV or on ra, just be yourself. Well, what's that mean? So you're going to say to a guy who I'm sure hasn't thought about culture, who's been an offensive or defensive coordinator, hey, go in there and just be yourself and change the culture. Well, you gotta kind of know what that means. And as Jason Garrett just said after Speaking to Mike McDonald's, he said that in his first year, he had no idea what he was doing. So he's the head coach of Seattle, and he said, I had no idea what I was doing, but go in there and create a culture. Good luck with that. Stat of the Day is always brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. We talked about the hall of Fame, we talked about Gold Gloves, we talked about who should get in. Who's next. The factor in Carlos Beltran with one year cheating with the Astros. Well, that's kind of cheating, where his steroids are really cheating. Yes. Seaton. We were talking about plays that stick with you, that you remember watching that you're like, you just can't get over. Is there one personally that sticks with you? Like where you were on the court, you were on the field, a shot.

[Questlove]

You missed or interception you threw a strikeout you had.

[Dan Patrick]

Is there something that sticks with you all these days?

[Questlove]

You're like, dang, if I just hit.

[Dan Patrick]

That free throw, we would have gone to the state championship or something. No, I don't think there was one moment. I do remember that we were playing in the playoffs, postseason, state playoffs, and this team came out and played a box in one on me and I kind of. I thought the best thing was to stay away from the action, to take two guys with me and instead of being aggressive. So I. And we, look, we lost by, like, I don't know, three or four points, but I just remember looking back on that, and I probably should have been more aggressive to be involved instead of taking two defenders, you know, away. But other than that, I remember striking out on a Little League All Star game. Yep. Game on the line, bases loaded, and. And that's when you know your head's low, you're crying, you're dragging the bat back with you got, you know, your all star teammates there looking at you. You feel like a bum. But nothing in a big, big moment, that where you go, man, I truly whiffed. I. I mean, there's one in. In my broadcasting career. And that's when I'm on the podium and the Patriots have won the Super Bowl. And I had Gronk there, and I said, did you forget how that felt? And he was holding the super bowl trophy. He said, well, this is the first time that I've won. And so I made a mistake there in the moment that I thought that he had won another Super Bowl. And so when I said, did you forget how that felt? And then he said, this is the first time that I've won it. Yeah, See, I remember watching that, and.

[Questlove]

I was at a bar and that.

[Dan Patrick]

Hat, and I thought, oh, crap, tomorrow's gonna be a bad day. And to your credit, you came in and everything was fine. You. You had already moved on from. And like, ah, whatever. But I was like, oh, crap, tomorrow's gonna be a bad day because it's live and you're in front of a hundred million people, and your job really is to just not make a mistake. Introduce everybody, ask a couple of questions. Commissioners here, the owner's here, coach here, mvp, and throw it back up to Bob Costas. That's it. And you want to ask questions where you're going to get some pretty good answers or you hope that you'll get a little bit more. You know what I got. I. I tried too hard. Instead of just. I could have said, how's it feel, Gronk? And I just thought, I'm not going to do something trite like that. It was. Did you forget what that felt like? It's a good question. Just not to Grog. If I. If I said that to Belichick, it might have been a. Yeah, you know, I kind of forgot what it feels like. Or ask Brady, but I asked Gronk and yeah, got roughed up a little bit there, but yeah, it's all right.

[Questlove]

It wasn't too bad though.

[Dan Patrick]

No. And then he had the Eagles moment where I got Kevin Hart, who's yelling to get on the podium. And I, you know, first of all, I had Nick Foles and he wasn't a very good interview, you know, but you're, you're hoping to get something out of it. That's where you get your competitive. And you know, Doug Peterson, it wasn't a good interview. And I got Kevin Hart yelling and he's hammered and he wants to get on the podium and he, I, they probably should have let him up because it would have been more entertaining than the Eagles were up there. You know, the Eli situation where he didn't stick around to get the keys to the Corvette after he won the MVP because he didn't want to be seen with a Chevrolet product when he represented the Toyota. I think like, he didn't even want to touch it. He had his hands up like, I don't know, I'm like, dude, you got this unbelievable Corvette. And he, he had a, who knew that he had a car, you know, sponsorship and he couldn't accept it or something. But yeah, there, there's big moments like you, if you screw up on sports centers. You know, we were doing 200 shows a year, so you'd have moments. It was live, but probably more so broadcasting than anything else. All right, we'll take a break here. More phone calls coming up. And you can, I'll be your Dr. Phil. You can tell me your heartbreak, your heartache, the misery, the pain with that one play that you still can't get over. But up next, we'll talk to Reggie Miller. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, is Cabino and Rich from Fox Sports Radio. Now, in addition to hearing us live weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, we're excited to announce a brand new YouTube channel for the show. Yup, that's right. You can now watch Covino ENRICH Live on YouTube every day. All you got to do, search COVINO and RICH FSR on YouTube again. Go to YouTube. Search COVINOENRICH FSR. Check us out on YouTube. Subscribe. Hit that thumbs up icon and minute away.

[Questlove]

Hey, what's up, y'?

[Dan Patrick]

All?

[Questlove]

This is Questlove. Recently I had the opportunity to sit down with asap Rocky Ahead of his album release, Don't Be Dumb, he reflects on his journey from his Harlem roots to global icon status, discovering the hip hop origin of his name. The ledge was on the tv. Rakim had the bucket hat, Kango joint on. Pops was like, that's Rakim. That's who you named after. I just was like, damn guys, Swag. Rocky offers a window into not only a boundary breaking artist, but as a man committed to fusing creative ideas, community, and remaining unapologetically himself. Have you ever gotten roasted for any of your outfits? For sure. Some people don't be getting the vision. Look, they could roast me, they could cook me, they could deep fry me, they could saute whatever they want. There's nobody who can. With my fashion sense and my taste is impeccable. I'm just like, I impress myself a lot. It's an amazing conversation, one you definitely don't want to miss. So listen to the Questlove show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Questlove]

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[Questlove]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Questlove]

I absolutely agree. But before we get to that, okay, Dr. Theodore, since you, you're being a therapist, okay, I kind of want to talk about the moment Seaton brought up because trust me, I have a million of them, but things that stick with me. And I just want to talk about this. And while I'm talking about this, Paulie can probably pull this up. 1994, we're in the conference finals versus the Knicks. This is coming off game five, the 25 point quarter. My beloved Pacers go up three, two. Coming home to Indiana to close out the series. It could be a trip to the NBA Finals. Our first, you would think, home court advantage. I felt that we have broken the will of the Knicks. The start of that game, the Knicks get off to a great start. I mean, they're up by as many as 15, 20 points on us. We scratch, we claw our way back in. We have a big third and fourth quarter. We crawl all the way back into this ballgame being down double digits. I get fouled. We're down to I'm going to the free throw line in our building. And you know, this Theodore, being a shooter scorer, it's sometimes just breaking the will of your opponent because you can tell, you can look at your opponent's eyes and you know when they're about ready to crack, I feel if I make both of these free throws and we go up one with about two, three minutes left, I will have broken them. This is it. Because they were ready to fold anyways. But they had played great all the way up to this point. I go me, I go one for two and it's a tie ball game. And Dan, you know this. There's a difference between tied and being nuts because all they did was exhale these. They didn't get the lead and they went on to beat us in game six and we lost game seven. So to answer, it's that moment that keeps me up because I should not miss free throws, especially in a moment like that. Because they were ready to fold like a chair. I had them on the precipice of, of being broken and I let him off the hook. So if there's something that haunts me a moment, it's that damn free throw. That's why it just kills me because I, it kills me. One of the best free throw shooters ever in the NBA. I miss a free throw in that moment, it kills me. It really kills me because they were ready to be broken. Okay, what do you want to know about the NBA?

[Dan Patrick]

What about the Knicks now? Like they're talking about trading Carl Anthony Towns. I thought that Mike Brown and we got to get rid of Tibbs and you know, this is a team that can go to the NBA Finals. What's wrong with them?

[Questlove]

And they still could go to the NBA Finals. But let's, let's be real that Carl Anthony Towns trade demands or everyone talking about it, that's nothing new. They were talking about doing that last year even before they made the coaching change. Look, something just isn't clicking chemistry wise in that locker room and having a chance to cover a few of their games this year. And I'm surprised because Carla D. Towns last year Under Thibs averaged 24 points, 13 rebounds, all star all NBA performer this year numbers can considerably down. Still good, 20 points, 11 rebounds. But his shooting is atrocious. Now I know it's a new offense, there's more pace and space and there's more flow, but he just doesn't look comfortable under Mike Brown's system. And don't get me started on the defense, which was fantastic under coach Stibs. As we know, he's a defensive minded coach. Their defense is atrocious. So chemistry, balance. Look, Mike Brown says it was going to be a while. Look, they won the cup a month ago and everyone was patting them on the back and they've gone I believe 7, 11 since then and they just have not played great basketball on either end.

[Dan Patrick]

We were talking earlier about Jimmy Butler's injury and what this means for Golden State, because they're not going to be challenging for a championship here unless if you trade Jonathan Kaminga and you bring in, I don't know, Klay Thompson or DeMar DeRozan or, I don't know. But you got Steph at 37 and you know, that window is really closing here, Reg.

[Questlove]

Halfway closed, and especially now with the injury to Butler almost closed. Unless something drastically happens. Look, Mike Dunleavy Jr. The general manager, has gone on record and say, we cannot continue to waste these prime golden years of Stephen Curry and Draymond Green to a certain degree. I mean, he's 35, so I wouldn't be surprised if they meet, made a subtle move. I like the Demar DeRozan I know. Again, another older player, but a proven player in a proven score. But what do you give up? I know Sacramento all along has wanted Jonathan Kaminga, and now this is going to be an interesting dynamic, because now if you're Steve Kerr in that coaching staff and you look down the end of the bench and you see Kaminga after the injury to Jimmy Butler and you're asking him, oh, now, can you come play for us when you haven't played me at all? I'm not going for that. If I'm Kaminga, something has to happen. Or if I'm Stephen Curry, maybe I open up my Rolodex.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow.

[Questlove]

And maybe it's time that I call someone in the Midwest by the name of Giannis Antetokounmpo and say, look, what you've done in Milwaukee has been fabulous. It's been great. You brought them a championship, their first in 50 years. But the time is now. You're getting older. I'm certainly knocking on Father Time's door.

[Dan Patrick]

Wait a minute. But how do you pull that off, Reg?

[Questlove]

I don't know how you do it. You give up everyone but Stephen Curry and hopefully not Draymond Green. But everyone else on the roster.

[Dan Patrick]

Is, oh, I'll give you Draymond Green. I don't need. If I get Giannis, I'll. I'll take my chances. I don't want to. I'd hate for that to hold up the trade if you were going to get Giannis.

[Questlove]

If they can get Giannis by any means necessary, that is something Mike Dunleavy is going to have to certainly think about. But Giannis has to be open to that as well, because the Bucks aren't going anywhere either. Right? They're kind of stuck in mud, too. So I think he doesn't owe them any favors.

[Dan Patrick]

He.

[Questlove]

He's done his job.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, but who's most likely to trade for Giannis?

[Questlove]

I would say New York. I think New York probably has more assets. You could throw in. Mikhail Bridges, maybe og Josh Hart, some picks. Carl. I don't know if I want Carl. Anthony Towns, if. If I'm. Milwaukee. No, you got Miles Turner there. That's almost the same. I don't know if I want both of those guys there. So the Carlington channels is not that attractive in Milwaukee, but I think the pairing of Giannis and Steph, that's fascinating. That is. That's pretty fascinating.

[Dan Patrick]

Could you see Step. Would Steph ever asked to be traded? No. Okay.

[Questlove]

I think he's in the same boat as Giannis. They will never publicly ask for a trade.

[Dan Patrick]

What feels like Milwaukee would trade Giannis? I don't think Golden State would trade Steph unless Steph said, let me help you get younger. Let me go see if I can win another championship.

[Questlove]

I think if he went to ownership group and said something like that behind closed doors, I think they would do everything possible to trade him because right now his value is high, too. You know, a pairing where I would love. I would absolutely love to see Steph go. What if Steph teamed up and they have assets? What if he teamed up with Wimby in San Antonio? If you could keep Wimby and maybe Castle, but everyone else is in play and have staff. If you had those three guys, Dylan Harper, great young player. Ship them off. Luke Cornett, champion in Boston, another big guy. Ship them off. Harrison Barnes, who won a championship with the Warriors. Ship them off. Kelvin Johnson, great. De' Aaron Fox. Gotta go.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, if San Antonio added Steph Curry, who's the team to beat in the.

[Questlove]

NBA and is Castle.

[Dan Patrick]

You can keep Castle. You got Castle and Wemby. You lose Fox, you're going to lose Harper, Cornett and probably some draft picks.

[Questlove]

They're currently where they are right now. I. I was still.

[Dan Patrick]

They're second in the West. Right.

[Questlove]

So they would still be the second best team. I would. Because of experience. Obviously, I'm going to lean towards the champs, but we've seen on a small sample scale, they're 3 and 1 versus versus OKC this year.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Questlove]

But that would be fascinating because you have a proven winner score, someone who can space the floor. And, you know, I was watching that game last night between the spurs in the Rockets and I. For the life of me, I just don't know why they wouldn't run pick and roll with de' Aaron Fox in Wimby almost every single play. How are you going to guard that? They rarely run that or even with Stephen Stephon Castle. Why wouldn't they run that almost exclusively? How would you guard that either? Throw it to the rim, Pick and pop, pick and roll. They go under. If that's Stephen Curry and they go under, boom baby. There's so many things you could do with a de' Aaron Fox and Wimby pick and roll. Fox is just too good. And to me they're not using them as most as, as they should. It's a, it's a shame because offensively they can be really good.

[Dan Patrick]

Talking to Reggie Miller, the Hall of Famer and coast to coast NBC and Peacock Starting at 8 Eastern, somebody is going to get traded. It feels like this trade deadline, right? Big name.

[Questlove]

Look, I, I think I've read everything too. You probably heard this, that John Moran has pulled back his demands of being traded Zion. That'd be a look. That's an interesting thing. Maybe it's time for a new, a change of place and scenery for him as well. But I think Joe Dumars kind of wants to see what he has with this young cork. What's the sample size on Zion? I mean, how many games has he played as he did?

[Dan Patrick]

He's played 29 games this year. But I don't, I don't want Zion or John Morant. I don't want Lonzo or Lamelo Ball either.

[Questlove]

I look, I think a change of pace for all three of those guys might be in order. I know they're all injury prone and I know they need the basketball to be successful, but also they can be a difference maker on a winning team, on a winning culture. Maybe, I don't know.

[Dan Patrick]

You got to see Cooper flag in person.

[Questlove]

He's the real deal, you know, because I wanted to see how he really seen it on TV versus seeing how someone's change of pace, how they warm up, how they approach the game when you see it in person and up close for a 19 year old. And I give a lot of credit to whoever developed this young man in terms of his fundamentals and footwork. And coach Jason Kidd and his staff has done a fabulous job of allowing him, and listen to me carefully when I say this, allowing him to fail, okay? Because the project they did of putting him at point guard was brilliant. Because at some point in time, if you could have two or three playmakers on the floor and you know, I think I brought this up on air, Coach K called Coach Kidd and said, you know what? We never thought about doing that. You know, we just thought he was going to be a forward and we would throw the ball to him. It's like, this is fascinating. And, yeah, it wasn't great, but he passed a lot of tests, and it's only going to make him better. So by failing, to me, the Mavericks got better because he developed his game. This young man is going to be the face of our game in another three to five years because he has all the tools to be great.

[Dan Patrick]

He won't be the face because of Wemby, though. And Wemby's only two years older than him, isn't he? Yeah, Wemby's going to. You know, it's not often when you say somebody changes the game, but somebody who is that skilled inside, outside, offensively, defensively, I just think that the league is his for the next decade.

[Questlove]

If that's the case, then he's gonna have to play more than 28 minutes a game. I need more Wimby. I need a guy.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Questlove]

I need a guy that's going to give me 32 to 38 and play 60 to, you know, 72 games.

[Dan Patrick]

Your UCLA Bruins beat Purdue and these students storm the floor. Reggie, this is ucla. What's. What. What happened to the Bruins? They stormed the floor at home.

[Questlove]

I know. We got caught up in the big kid moment, beating the rank team. Produce number four.

[Dan Patrick]

I know you're ucla. I know.

[Questlove]

You don't have to bring it up. I saw, too.

[Dan Patrick]

You're dang. These kids have no sense of history.

[Questlove]

We got caught up in the moment.

[Dan Patrick]

Why don't they just offer a course in ucla, the history of UCLA basketball just said, they know we don't storm the court.

[Questlove]

I hope Coach Conan went in there and said, what, Did y' all get caught up in this? What is wrong with y'?

[Dan Patrick]

All?

[Questlove]

Do you know who we are?

[Dan Patrick]

Who we is? Are you still a Raiders fan?

[Questlove]

I. Mendoza, baby. Yes. You know my. You know my pecking order. Raiders, Colts. And because of my son, Chiefs. But Raiders die hard. Raiders. Yes. And you saw who was scouting at. At the championship game. Thomas. The greatest of all time. Brady. He knows. And can I just say one thing? Was that the greatest scramble for a touchdown by a quarterback? 4th and 5. I wish I had my belt for Michael Irvin. Michael Irving. I don't have a belt on. You were whipping all those other opponents. Mendoza just took off it. That was a. I was screaming, oh, my God.

[Dan Patrick]

Michael Irvin Scares me, though. Like I. I get nervous for Michael Irvin when he gets excited like that.

[Questlove]

I love.

[Dan Patrick]

He was more excited than anybody on Miami's team when they had those wins.

[Questlove]

It's good to have a cheerleader like.

[Dan Patrick]

Michael Irvin, but you don't do that at a UCLA basketball game.

[Questlove]

I mean, I cheer, I clap, I cheer.

[Dan Patrick]

I clap.

[Questlove]

I do. Look, former players. We get animated. I'm sorry. When it comes to our alma maters.

[Dan Patrick]

Good to talk to you. I got your.

[Questlove]

Excuse me, Dr. Theodore. Allow me to vent.

[Dan Patrick]

And you miss. You're a.

[Questlove]

Make a free throw.

[Dan Patrick]

You're a 90% free throw shooter.

[Questlove]

And I admit, you make those, you go up one. And for people to say there was a lot of game left. No, they. They were ready. We go up one.

[Dan Patrick]

Did you choke?

[Questlove]

I choked.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I choked.

[Questlove]

I choked. A trip to the finals. Because again, you do have another chance going to New York, but you're not going to win that game on the road. Going in game seven.

[Dan Patrick]

Yep.

[Questlove]

In those days. Not. Not in the mid-90s. You had to close them out at home. I didn't. I apologize. Pacer fans. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I let him off the hook. That was my bad.

[Dan Patrick]

Why don't you blame, you know, your teammates and blame. It'll never.

[Questlove]

It'll never be my teammates. When you're the man, it falls right here.

[Dan Patrick]

Do you have Reggie stats in that game, Paulie? Yeah, he had 27 in that game. In the last four games of that series, he was a leading scorer for both teams. 31, 39, 27, 25. Yeah, but he should have had 28 points in that.

[Questlove]

No, no.

[Dan Patrick]

Damn.

[Questlove]

Well, that. So that's my moment.

[Dan Patrick]

Se.

[Questlove]

Everyone has moment. And trust me, I've had many of them. But that one just burns with me because it's the first. That would have been my first trip to the NBA Finals. And.

[Dan Patrick]

And you would have faced San Antonio.

[Questlove]

What's that?

[Dan Patrick]

You would have faced San Antonio?

[Questlove]

Houston.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh.

[Questlove]

Houston, my man. Mad Max and I going head to head.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, my God.

[Questlove]

Mad Max. Hakeem Elijah wanted Rick Smith, but then.

[Dan Patrick]

We wouldn't have had the John Starks moment.

[Questlove]

I wouldn't have went 1 for 27. I love me some job, but you know what? A lot of that is on Pat Riley. You did have Hubert Davis over there. Someone who could have came in.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, so you're blaming Ryles for that?

[Questlove]

It's called coaching for a reason.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Reg.

[Questlove]

Theodore. I appreciate you, Theodore.

[Dan Patrick]

D figure we get some Positive numbers in there for Reg. And he was a like 92% free throw shooter. Reg could make 10 in a row blindfolded. Yeah. Pulling in that series. He shot 92% from the free throw line. And he's upset. He just, he doesn't miss those. He lives for those moments. All right, last call for phone calls. What we learned what's in store tomorrow. We're back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Alrighty. Last call, Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store tomorrow. Booger McFarland from the mothership. We'll stop by. NBA MVP odds. Here's your updated odds. It's SGA minus 380. Then it's Luca plus 600. Cade Cunningham plus 1400. Jalen Brown plus 2500. Anthony Edwards plus 5000. It feels like Joker coming back is going to be back in time to qualify. Playing at least 65 games. It doesn't leave him much room for error or margin for error or injury. But coming back and they said progressing a little bit faster than they thought that he was going to. A couple more phone calls. Kevin in Texas. Good morning, Kevin. What's on your mind today? Well, Danny boy, I'll keep it quick. I got two topics that really make my head spin as far as the logic goes. First of all, what did that owner say again?

[Questlove]

He.

[Dan Patrick]

He said that the game that he decided to fire Shaman Durbin about that game in Denver. Yes. So the thousands upon thousands of good snaps that they had for nine years are thrown away by three or four bad ones in one game on the road at at altitude.

[Questlove]

Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

[Dan Patrick]

No, it doesn't to me either because I don't know who you're bringing in. And really that comes down to Josh Allen didn't make the plays that you expect him to make. Here is the Buffalo Bills owner.

[Questlove]

My decision to bring in a new.

[Dan Patrick]

Coach.

[Questlove]

Was based on the results of.

[Dan Patrick]

Our game in Denver. Terry Punkula. I, I just don't like that. I don't like that at all. If Josh Allen doesn't throw the interception, Josh Allen doesn't fumble at the end of the first half, overthrows Knox. I mean, these are all plays that we expect him to make. It shouldn't be. You know, Josh Allen got his coach fired with his play. Yes.

[Questlove]

Todd would have been a lot better if he would have said this, just one too many years of coming up.

[Dan Patrick]

Short and not at least getting into.

[Questlove]

The Super bowl, that's maybe what he.

[Dan Patrick]

Said, and I'm fine with that. Don't make it about this game. If you want to say we've gotten as far as I think Sean can take us, we're very lucky to have nine years. The consistency. If you look at the coaches prior to Sean, what he did was incredible, and we'll be forever grateful. I'm the one making this decision. I'm. I feel like this is the right decision to make for this team at this time. Now, you can do that, but don't say it's based off of that game. I just think the respect that Sean is owed should not be. Hey, you lost that one game. We're going to get rid of you, Ed and Dayton. Hi, Ed. What's on your mind? Hey, Dan. Ed. Holly, our ed from Dayton. Six, two, two, ten. My worst. Thank you. Worst moment ever was the 1989 Super bowl when Lewis Phillips dropped the interception in the end zone across the Bengals. The Super Bowl. Yeah. Yeah. Bengals played. When they get in the super bowl, they're always very competitive. They play some really close Super Bowls. Ed in Arizona. Hi, Ed. What's on your mind? Hey, Dan, thanks for having me. Long time, second time, six, four. A soft 300 right now, but working on it.

[Questlove]

I was on that 98 Falcons team. I was number 86 on the left wing.

[Dan Patrick]

So I've heard for years. You know where my NFC championship ring and I know every.

[Questlove]

My Vikings fan can tell you exactly.

[Dan Patrick]

Where they were and what they were going through when that happened. So I feel their pain on my end. My heartbreaking moment was Super Bowl Sunday a couple weeks later when I got the phone call telling me to turn on espn.

[Questlove]

The Eugene Robinson had gotten caught out.

[Dan Patrick]

There, and that changed destiny for me. Man, we should have. Things should have been handled a lot differently, but that broke my heart and.

[Questlove]

That broke the spirit of our team.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, that was tough. Yeah. Wasn't he named NFL man of the Year as well afterwards? No. That's a good line. Yeah. I don't think it would have mattered if he didn't get caught up in prostitution soliciting, but, yeah, that was tough. And he was the NFL man of the Year. Paulie, you got a disdain. Sports history.

[Questlove]

Right on cue, Dan. 1997.

[Dan Patrick]

Don Mattingly of the Yankees announces his retirement. Man, two more years. Yeah. 1990, John McEnroe, the first player to be expelled from the Australian open. You can't be serious. Todd Would you learn on today's award nominated program with four Gold Gloves, we wonder why Steve Garvey still gets knocked.

[Questlove]

For his defensive abilities by the hall of Fame voters.

[Dan Patrick]

Seat no. Connor Reggie's got a free throw that's bothering him after all these years.

[Questlove]

Marvin Buffalo's playing the blame game.

[Dan Patrick]

Paul New mission. Steve Garvey Yep, I got a few guys to get in the hall of Fame. Todd what did I learn? Reggie Mill thinks Steph needs to reach.

[Questlove]

Out to Giannis and convince him to.

[Dan Patrick]

Somehow come to Golden State. Have a great day everybody. Thanks for the phone calls, emails, tweets, the all around support for Fritzi Seaton, Marv, Polly, yours truly. We'll talk to you on Thursday. Have a great day.

[Questlove]

This is an I Heart podcast.

[Dan Patrick]

Guaranteed human.