Hour 3 – Give the 49ers Credit, Kurt Warner

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 3: "Give the 49ers Credit, Kurt Warner"

Date: October 3, 2025
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network
Host: Dan Patrick
Guest: Kurt Warner (NFL Hall of Famer, NFLN Analyst)

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Episode Overview

This hour of The Dan Patrick Show dives deep into football talk following the stunning 49ers-Rams overtime finish, broader NFL and college football previews, and a lengthy, insightful interview with Hall of Famer Kurt Warner. There’s a focus on the repercussions of pivotal coaching decisions, quarterback legacies, and how definitive moments shape both games and Hall of Fame careers. Several memorable listener calls reflect on Dan’s impactful interviewing style, and the "must-win" spirit pervading both college and pro games.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. 49ers’ Overtime Win & Rams’ Gamble (03:00-05:00)

• Recap of Thursday’s 49ers-Rams game: Niners upset Rams in OT after a failed Rams 4th-and-1 attempt.

  • Dan praises the 49ers:

    “Give the Niners credit because that’s a banged up team…a wounded animal…an 8½ point underdog. Surprise, surprise.” [04:17]

  • Discussion of Sean McVay’s decision to go for it instead of settling for a tie.
    • Dan’s take: “They were playing for the win. I get it. I don’t blame them... But give the Niners credit.” [04:28]

• Notable Quote:
  “That’s a banged up team… and you were an eight and a half point underdog. Surprise, surprise.”
  — Dan Patrick [04:17]

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2. Weekend Football Preview & Betting Lines (05:00-08:00)

• College football: rundown of big and “interesting” matchups (Vandy/Alabama, Florida State/Miami, Clemson/UNC).
  • Vandy is a 10.5 point dog at Alabama, which beat them last year.
• NFL betting lines run-through: Vikings/Browns, Cowboys/Jets, Buccaneers/Seahawks, Patriots/Bills, and more.
  • Playful banter among the Danettes on expected passing yardage for Dylan Gabriel in his NFL debut.

• Discussion on the relative appeal of the week’s NFL slate.

  > “It’s not a great slate... it’s not one of those ‘oh my gosh’ showdown weekends.”  
  — Dan Patrick [07:09]
  

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3. "Must-Win" Games of the Week (08:10–09:05)

• Each Danette and Dan selects their “most must-win” college or NFL team:
  • Marvin: Kaylin DeBoer and Alabama (can’t lose to Vandy two years in a row)
  • Paulie: Texas at Florida (peril for Longhorns if upset)
  • Todd: Ravens (must win against the Texans to avoid 1-4 start)
  • Seton: Cowboys (must win at Jets to keep playoff hopes)
  • Dan: Clemson at UNC (pressure on Dabo Sweeney, narrative games)

• “You cannot lose to Vanderbilt two years in a row.”
  — Dan Patrick [08:32]

• “People will jump off that [Texas] bandwagon fast if they lose.”
  — Paulie [08:45]

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4. Dan Patrick’s Interview Approach & Listener Reflections (09:59–12:00)

• Listener Dennis reminisces about Dan’s interviews with Jerry West and Hank Aaron, crediting Dan for “bringing out stuff about these stars that nobody like me knows about... brings them down to a human level.” [10:22]
• Dan reflects on his interview philosophy:

  “My goal... to have you relax so it feels like a conversation... If you get to that, you can get some things out of people. Not everybody will allow you to do that... but that’s the challenge.” [11:08]

• Touchingly recalls Jerry West’s “tormented life,” notably the story about a shotgun and his father.

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5. Iconic Sports Interviews & Charlie Sheen Calls (12:00-14:37)

• Multiple callers recall the infamous 2011 Charlie Sheen meltdown/interview and its aftermath (media hunt for Charlie, lack of contact between Dan and Sheen).

• “Yeah, he didn’t remember the interview 14 years ago... That’s when you know all these networks were calling my house.”
  — Dan Patrick [12:50]

• Comments on the “crazy in a good way” experience of having Charlie sound well after decades of public struggles.

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6. Quarterbacks Who Change the Game – The Great Debate (15:55–18:48)

• Caller Grant asks Dan to settle a debate: “Which QBs truly changed the game?” (Mahomes, Peyton, Lamar vs. Namath).
• Dan lays out levels of “impact”:
  • Joe Namath:

    “He helped change the entire league with one game... guaranteed the AFL...” [16:47]

  • Johnny Unitas:

    “Changed the position. He gave us the two-minute drill.”

  • Peyton Manning:

    “Changed the game probably more than any other quarterback. Marino was the first to give you five wide... But Peyton... changed how you call a game.” [17:42]

• Previews asking Kurt Warner this same question.

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7. In-Depth Interview: Kurt Warner (25:07–38:57)

Dylan Gabriel’s Debut & Young QB Advice

• Would Kurt start Gabriel’s first game in London vs. Vikings?

  > “That’s a lot of things going on along with playing against a Brian Flores defense... Not an easy one for Dylan Gabriel.”  
  — Kurt Warner [25:13]
  

• Advice to rookies:

  “Biggest thing is, realize you don’t have to do it all on your own... Allow [your teammates] to help you along the way... It’s OK to punt every once in a while.”
  — Kurt Warner [25:40]

• On learning to get rid of the ball:

  “Getting rid of the ball is understanding what you’re seeing, a comfort level with the plays that you’re running...”
  — Kurt Warner [26:22]

Rams’ 4th Down Decision & Play Calling

• On Rams’ OT 4th-down call:

  “More disappointed with the play call than the decision to go for it... I thought they’d give more options to Matt Stafford instead of just running it up the gut.”
  — Kurt Warner [27:16]

Texans, Ravens: Must Win

• Warner’s “must win” game: Texans-Ravens—both 1-3, both need a turnaround.

  “For me, it’s going to be Texans-Ravens, both teams I think high hopes... Neither one playing very good football.”
  — Kurt Warner [28:13]

• On CJ Stroud’s struggles:

  “I wish I could [explain it]... He’s not making the throws and decisions that he did as a rookie. I can’t put a finger on it.”
  — Kurt Warner [28:53]

Can You "Play Yourself Out" of the Hall of Fame? (Russell Wilson)

• Dan: Did Russell Wilson play himself out of HOF consideration?
• Warner: Not out, but “you look at him differently” after recent seasons; now people debate “who is the real Russell Wilson?” [30:33]

How Hall of Fame Candidacy Is Built:

• Dan asks if Warner would have made HOF without Arizona stretch.

  “Would highly doubt it... I think is what kind of stamped that.” [32:40]

• Discussion about criteria (length of greatness vs. statistical accumulation; Super Bowl wins).

Who Changed the Game Most at QB?

• Warner praises Marino, his own Rams offense, but ultimately says:

  “Peyton [Manning] was the best QB we’ve ever seen before the snap... but I wouldn't say that necessarily transformed the game because I don’t know if there’s been anybody anywhere close to Peyton at doing that.”
  — Kurt Warner [35:04]

• Also mentions the impact of Michael Vick in leading today's mobile-QB era.
• Dan: “I’d probably say Joe [Namath] was the most impactful QB of all time because of that one moment.” [36:21]

Best Thrower of a Football

• Warner’s pick: Dan Marino.

  “Just watching him throw... the release... the arm strength but also the touch... I tried to emulate him in my front yard.”
  — Kurt Warner [37:35]

• Heartwarming story about stocking shelves, dreaming of being like Marino on the Wheaties box.

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8. Interviewing Style & On Being "The Dan Patrick" (39:19–40:29)

• Caller David asks if Dan ever realizes he’s the “best interviewer out there.”
• Dan deflects: “If I said, ‘I’m THE Dan Patrick,’ that takes away from my strategy... it’s not about my question, it’s about your answer. I always want your answer to be important.” [40:29]

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9. Games, Fun, and Show Wrap (47:07-end)

• “Rhyme Time” segment: rapid-fire wordplay game among the Danettes, showing their signature banter and lighthearted camaraderie.
• Sports trivia and poll results wrap up the show:
  • Most infamous interview: Charlie Sheen
  • Hall of Fame QB vs. pitcher: most would rather be a QB
  • Root for your child or your team? “Gotta root for your kid” [52:59]

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• On the Rams’ failed gamble in OT:
  “They were playing for the win. I get it. I don’t blame them... But give the Niners credit because that’s a banged up team.”
  — Dan Patrick [04:28]

• On what makes a great sports interview:
  “My goal... to have you relax so it feels like a conversation... If you get to that, you can get some things out of people.”
  — Dan Patrick [11:08]

• Kurt Warner on being a young quarterback:
  “Allow [your teammates] to help you along the way. It’s OK to punt every once in a while because you got a great defense.”
  — Kurt Warner [25:40]

• On Russell Wilson’s legacy:
  “Maybe it gives you a different perspective of the kind of player he was... who is the real Russell Wilson here?”
  — Kurt Warner [30:33]

• On who changed the NFL quarterback game:
  “Peyton was unique and different and the best we’ve ever seen at playing before the snap, where a lot of guys like myself were way better playing after the snap.”
  — Kurt Warner [36:21]

• On best pure passer:
  “If I was picking a guy, I would probably pick Dan Marino... I tried to emulate him in my front yard.”
  — Kurt Warner [37:35]

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Key Timestamps

• 49ers-Rams recap & OT stop: 03:00–05:00
• Weekend football/betting line breakdown: 05:00–08:00
• Must-win game roundtable: 08:10–09:05
• Dan on interview style/listener calls: 09:59–12:00
• Charlie Sheen interview reflections: 12:00–14:37
• QB “changed the game” debate: 15:55–18:48
• Kurt Warner interview: 25:07–38:57
• On “being The Dan Patrick” interview approach: 39:19–40:29
• Show wrap/Rhyme Time/game: 47:07–end

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Tone and Style

The episode maintains Dan Patrick’s trademark mix of humor, sports wisdom, and candid conversation. Listener calls are respected and woven into insightful commentary. The Warner interview stands out for its depth and honesty—reflective, warm, and full of experience-based wisdom.

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For New Listeners

This episode is ideal if you:

• Appreciate honest, fun, and nuanced sports talk, especially about football
• Value insight into what makes a great athlete, coach, and interviewer
• Want to catch up on weekend games, both NFL and college, with a focus on storylines
• Enjoy behind-the-scenes stories about sports legends and pivotal NFL moments
• Like the intersection of stats, emotion, and high-stakes decisions in sports

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Listen for:

• The best breakdown of pivotal coaching moments (Rams’ OT call)
• Real advice for young QBs (from a Hall of Famer’s own journey)
• The Hall of Fame quarterback debate, explored from every angle
• A reflective look at Dan Patrick’s interviewing art, including what elicits the best from legends

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Transcript

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[Paulie Gundy]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Paulie Gundy]

Nobody.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, coming up, we'll talk to Kurt Warner. Hall of Famer will have the most must win game of the week and the MMW got w your phone calls as well. 877-3-DP show baseball coming up this weekend. It's Cubs, Brewers. That is spicy. Yankees, Blue Jays, Dodgers, Phillies, Tigers, Mariners. This is fun and it's been great baseball this week, but you also had football last night. Surprise, surprise, the Niners beat the Rams in overtime. And the biggest play, the Rams going for it. Fourth and one in overtime. And it sounded like this. Fourth down and one for the Rams. Niners lead by three. A chance to win it with a stop here in overtime. Stafford gets under center at the 11 yard line. He takes it. He turns, he gives the Kyron Williams.

[Paulie Gundy]

He gets packed. I think he's short, Tim. I think he's short. And the 49ers storm the field.

[Dan Patrick]

It is all over.

[Paulie Gundy]

The 49ers have won it in overtime here in LA.

[Dan Patrick]

That's courtesy of KNBR, the Niners Radio Network. And you know, Sean McVeigh took the blame for this. Now, I don't know if the fact that we just had a tie with the Cowboys and the packers and does that enter your mind they weren't playing for a tie because they could have kicked the field goal. Ben, you give the Niners another chance. They were playing for the win. I get it. I don't blame them. And you would have thought with that offense, with that head coach calling plays that this wouldn't have been an issue. But give the Niners credit because that's a banged up team. That is a wounded animal. And you were an 8 1/2 point underdog. Surprise, surprise. Some of the other big matchups coming up this weekend at. You know, you have a lot of college football with some interesting matchups. Not great matchups, but you have some interesting matchups. Vandy and Alabama, to me is very interesting because Vandy beat Alabama last year. You have Florida State in Miami, which is interesting. You have Clemson in North Carolina, which is interesting. Vandy is a ten and a half point underdog against Alabama. Texas is a four and a half point favorite against Florida. Miami, four and a half versus Florida State. Then I start to look at the NFL. You have the Vikings against the Browns. Dylan Gabriel is going to start for the Browns. According to DraftKings over under passing total for Dylan Gabriel, NFL debut Paulie, I'll start with you.

[Paulie Gundy]

189 yards.

[Dan Patrick]

Marvin, 175 1/2. Seton 155 odd. 173 1/2. 177 1/2. 1771 half. Yeah, yeah. You know, it's an early start. I'll tune into that. I think it'll be interesting. Let's see the Cowboys against the Jets. Cowboys are favored by two and a half. Buccaneers are getting three in Seattle, which I think is going to be interesting. Commanders getting two and a half against the Chargers. I, I look at the Patriots getting eight and a half against the Bills, and I think the Patriots are a good team, potentially a good team. Eight and a half. I mean, Drake may. Can you keep them? Maybe in it? Touchdown or less. The Titans against the Cardinal. Oh, God. Oh, God, no, no, no. I gotta watch it.

[Paulie Gundy]

You do?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I do.

[Paulie Gundy]

You're Dan Patrick.

[Dan Patrick]

You don't watch this. I know, but I, I, I promise you I will end up watching this game. I know. Titans are getting seven and a half against the Cardinals. The Broncos getting three and a half against the Eagles. That one's tasty as well. It's not a great slate. It's not one of those. Oh my gosh. This showdown, Lions against the Bengal Dolphins. Panthers. That's another one I might have to watch. Yeah, Paulie, I love the spiciness of.

[Paulie Gundy]

Seahawks hosting the Buccaneers.

[Dan Patrick]

I think that's, that's because the Seahawks.

[Paulie Gundy]

Getting four, giving four and a half. No one's buying into the Seahawks yet. They need a, they need a national TV win and they had one.

[Dan Patrick]

But like Seattle is giving three and a half, not four and a half according to DraftKings. All right, let's see 877-3-DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP Show Most must win game of the weekend after everything I went through there, Marvin, I'll start with you. By the way, if you're watching on Peacock. Thank you for downloading the app. We say good morning to our radio affiliates around the country. 877-3-DP show operator Tyler sitting by Marvin, the MM W got W.

[Paulie Gundy]

Kaylin DeBoer in Alabama.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Paulie Gundy]

I think you can, you can lose the Vanderbilt once in a generation. You cannot lose it in two years in a row.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, this is not your dad's Vanderbilt. Diego Pavia the next Baker Mayfield.

[Paulie Gundy]

Tell that to the Bama fans.

[Dan Patrick]

Rotide. Okay, Paul, I'm going to go Texas at Florida.

[Paulie Gundy]

Florida's been competitive. This should be an easy win for Texas. People will jump off that bandwagon fast if they lose.

[Dan Patrick]

Todd the most must win game of the weekend.

[Paulie Gundy]

The Baltimore Ravens at 1 and 3.

[Dan Patrick]

Must get their act together this week.

[Paulie Gundy]

At home against the one and three Texans.

[Dan Patrick]

They cannot fall to one and four Texans. They are two and a half point favorites.

[Paulie Gundy]

Wow.

[Dan Patrick]

Seton Most must win game of the weekend. The 1, 2 and 1 Dallas Cowboys must win this weekend at the New York Jets. Okay, that is a must win game. I'm going to say Clemson at North Carolina because Clemson's favored big favorites against North Carolina. They're not getting rid of Belichick the first year, but with Dabo Sweeney and it hasn't been pretty. Not that anything's going to happen, but you know, that press conference will be really entertaining when it's all said and done. All right. The baseball was, was great. I love the three game series winner go home. And the Tigers, Cubs, Yankees all did exactly that. They won. And that sets up a great weekend in college football. Couple of phone calls in here. Dennis in Syracuse. Hi, Dennis, thanks for holding. What's on your mind today?

[Paulie Gundy]

Hi, Dan. Just wanted to tell you about my two favorite interviews that you've done. The first was Jerry west and the second was Hank Aaron. And I'm old enough that I grew up when they were in their prime and really admired him. And then you interviewed him. And since they passed, I feel like I got to know him personally through your interview. That's one of the things you do. You bring out stuff about these stars.

[Dan Patrick]

That nobody like me knows about and.

[Paulie Gundy]

It brings them down to a human level. Now, the other two current people I really like are Ross Tucker and Dan Orlofsky. So those are two different Generations. But you managed somehow in your interviews to bring them all together, and I appreciate that.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, thank you, Dennis. Yeah. I took great pride in being able to talk to Hank Aaron and Jerry west, because growing up, I'm watching them as a sports fan, and then you go full circle. Now I'm interviewing those two greats, and Hank is one of my favorite people. I just thought he was a gentleman and everything that he went through. And Jerry, you know, such a tormented life growing up with an alcoholic father. And the fact that when he told me that he had a shotgun under his bed and he told his dad, do not put your hands on mom, and I went, he was going to kill his dad. I mean, I'm not quite sure that it's coming in the interview, but then, you know, we don't do a pre interview. It's. You're asking questions, it's live, and you hope that you get something. But I. My goal, and not to get too deep on this, but to. To have you relax so it feels like a conversation that we're not on radio or tv. It's just a conversation. And if you get to that, then you can get some things out of these people. Not everybody will allow you to do that. Some don't even know that they're allowing you to do that. But that's the challenge. That's the fun part of all of this. Let's see. John in New Jersey. Hi, John. What's on your mind?

[Paulie Gundy]

Hey, Dan. How's it going?

[Dan Patrick]

Good.

[Paulie Gundy]

Hey, two quick things. I got a Charlie Sheen story when I got out of the Navy, but first and foremost, I'm driving from Miami to New Jersey, and I've been cussing out a whole bunch of fritzes in the left hand lane. So I'd like to say, suck your Fritzy. Fair enough. 2012, I got out of the Navy, and I found myself in the presence of Charlie Sheen very briefly. And after the interaction, I was riding my motorcycle from LA back down to San Diego. And I just remember for about two hours not being able to feel my helmet on my head. So it was a great interview. And I. I love seeing Charlie happy and looking like he's doing well. So.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. Well, thank you, John. Yeah, he didn't remember the interview 14 years ago. And that's when all of this happened. That's when, you know, all of these networks were calling my house. They were trying to. They couldn't get Charlie, although they were asking for Charlie's number. And, you know, I was saying to my family, don't answer the phone. They were calling my house number. I said, do not answer the phone. And they wanted. They wanted Charlie's number. And then they wanted to know if I would be interviewed. And I said, no, I don't know him. I just had him on. Well, he revealed a lot to you. I don't know him, but you had a lot of net. You know, the networks were calling. Everybody wanted, you know, something from Charlie Sheen. Robert in Texas. Hi, Robert. What's on your mind today?

[Paulie Gundy]

Hey, DP. First time, long time. 5, 10, 168. Just wanted to have a quick comment on the Charlie Sheen interview and also had a request in reference to the gambling podcast, if I can. All right, first one is just based off the last call. I'm just trying to piggyback. I'm just a big fan, and I think it's just crazy in a good way to hear Charlie Sheen just sound the way that he sounds. I'm an 80s baby, so Charlie Sheen movies were stuff that I grew up on. You know, Lucas Red, Dawn, Platoon, and even an old school pool for you. The Wraith was a sneaky, good movie.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, well, thank you, Robert. Yeah, we forget that Charlie Sheen was a great actor. I don't know if he still is, but he had an unbelievable run there. I mean, Platoon and Wall street, you go back to back. I mean, those are hammers. David in Ohio. Hi, David. What's on your mind?

[Paulie Gundy]

Hey, Dave. Happy meet Friday. Nobody. Speaking of great interviews, you mentioned on the DP Takes a Gamble podcast that you were gonna quote Dr. Phil Stay and his roommates relationship since they've been going through therapy and whatnot. So I think that'd be another great interview for the show. So thank you.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, Shay and Irving and his wife are. Shay has his own podcast, it's called Shea and Irving, and he's going to have his wife on. And Dylan. Dylan, who's part of the gambling podcast, is going to be the moderator because I don't want any part of it because they. It can detonate quickly. They're on good terms, they're in love. But it can detonate quickly with. With Shay. Yes, yes, Marv.

[Paulie Gundy]

Dylan, who's going to be the moderator. You have to be talking about a different Dylan.

[Dan Patrick]

No, no. Shea said Dylan's going to moderate and asked the question because Shay thinks I'll play favorites with his wife, which is true because I really like his wife.

[Paulie Gundy]

Do you think Dylan, to make the marriage better?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, yes, I would make it worse. Guaranteed I would make it Worse, I would ask leading questions, I would play favorites, and then Shea would get upset. Grant in Phoenix. Hi, Grant. What's on your mind?

[Paulie Gundy]

Hey, Dan, thanks for taking my call. 5, 11 and a half. Hard. 145 hard. Thank you. That's hard. So I was hoping that you could settle something for me. The Peter King interview yesterday reminded me of it. I was recently having a spirited debate with my father, and we were talking about quarterbacks who changed the game. And I said three that came to my mind were Peyton, Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson. And my dad looks at me and he goes, nope. The only quarterback who ever truly changed the game was Joe Namath. So I decided I needed to call you because my dad looks up to you in, like, basically every way. I need to know which one of us is more right, because if I'm more right, he has to buy me a $2.99 donut.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you. Thank you, Grant. When you realize that Joe Namath helped change the entire league with one game with a guarantee, the importance to the game, you're hard pressed to not single out Joe Namath. Now, Johnny Unitis, to me, changed the position. He gave us the two minute drill. Quarterbacks were more game managers, and I think Johnny Unitis was more of a passer, had the great connection to Raymond Berry. Now, he did have a lot of talent around him, but Joe guaranteed the afl. You have to remember, they were the stepbrother. They were not. They were inferior. And Joe guaranteed this. And they were 18 point underdogs and beat the big bad Colts. And I think because of that, now do I think Joe is one of the great quarterbacks of all time? I don't. But do I have to acknowledge the importance of changing? He. He brought about the merger. Peyton, to me, changed the game probably more than any other quarterback. Marino was the first to give you five wide. Don't need a running back throw for 5,000 yards. He was the first. But I. If I'm. If I'm looking at who changed the game the most from the position and not just one year, it was Peyton Manning because. And I'll ask her, Warner. But Peyton changed how you call a game you see a game. He was an offensive coordinator. He understood the position, I think better than anybody and probably had the least amount of athleticism or he's on the, you know, short list of least amount of athleticism at that position. See, we'll come back. Kurt Warner will join us. I'll ask him that question also ask him the most. Must win Game of the weekend. Hope you'll join us right after this Dan Patrick Show.

[Paulie Gundy]

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[Dan Patrick]

It's Miller time. What's that mean to you? It can mean a lot of things to a lot of different people. For me, it's the end of the show, end of the week on Friday. Papa Miller Light. And they've been doing it for 50 years. Cheers to Miller Light, the great taste of light beer. For people who Love beer since 1975, it's a perfect time to celebrate game day with friends and family and great tasting light beer. It's Miller time. It always is cold. You put it in the glass, you take that first sip and you go weekend. It's a taste you can depend on. A great beer trusted by beer lovers for 50 years. Simply put, it just tastes different. It tastes great. 96 calories, just 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Miller Time's always a good time. It's a great time. Iconic. 50 years later. Miller like great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com Patrick. You'll find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. It's Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin 96 calories, 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.

[Paulie Gundy]

Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining and twice a week that is exactly what you're going to get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different.

[Dan Patrick]

Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game.

[Paulie Gundy]

What was that?

[Dan Patrick]

Looks like something that should not be sold.

[Paulie Gundy]

Oh my.

[Dan Patrick]

So that was my other big Colts takeaway.

[Paulie Gundy]

They sold that? Yes. Might want to go back to the Colts stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah, I thought the shape we had.

[Dan Patrick]

With pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations.

[Paulie Gundy]

We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go.

[Dan Patrick]

I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73.

[Paulie Gundy]

He is a young 73. He is spry.

[Dan Patrick]

I would say.

[Paulie Gundy]

I would fight him. I would listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the psychology podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential.

[Paulie Gundy]

I was going schools to try to.

[Dan Patrick]

Teach kids these skills and I get eye rolling from teachers or I get.

[Paulie Gundy]

Students who would be like, it's easier to punch someone in the face.

[Dan Patrick]

When you think about emotion regulation, like.

[Paulie Gundy]

You'Re not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use.

[Dan Patrick]

Unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it, if it's.

[Paulie Gundy]

Going to be beneficial to you.

[Dan Patrick]

Because it's easy to say like, like you go blank yourself, right?

[Paulie Gundy]

It's easy. It's easy to just drink the extra beer. It's easy to ignore, to suppress seeing a colleague who's bothering you and just.

[Dan Patrick]

Like walking the other way. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denial is easier.

[Paulie Gundy]

Drinking is easier.

[Dan Patrick]

Yelling, screaming is easy. Complex problem solving, meditating, you know, takes effort. Listen to the psychology podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Paulie Gundy]

But the humility in knowing that life is his classroom that we should never graduate from is what is going to keep you growing. And that's all that matters. World Mental Health Day is around the corner. And on my podcast, just heal with Dr. J, I dive into what it.

[Dan Patrick]

Really means to care for your mind, body and spirit.

[Paulie Gundy]

From breaking generational patterns to building emotional capacity. Healing is a journey and wholeness is the destination.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm gonna walk away feeling very healed.

[Paulie Gundy]

And feeling like, yes, I'm gonna continue.

[Dan Patrick]

My healing journey and I'm gonna get some keys from you.

[Paulie Gundy]

Listen to just heal with Dr. J from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

December 29, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The holiday rush. Parents hauling luggage, Kids gripping their new Christmas toys.

[Paulie Gundy]

Then at 6:33pm everything changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal. Apparently, the explosion actually impelled metal glass. The Injured were being loaded into ambulances. Just a chaotic, chaotic scene.

[Dan Patrick]

In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, and it was here to stay. Terrorism, law and order, criminal justice system is back in season two. We're turning our focus to a threat that hides in plain sight that's harder to predict and even harder to stop.

[Paulie Gundy]

Listen to the new season of law.

[Dan Patrick]

And criminal justice System on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. First game of the weekend in the NFL, the Vikings and the Browns from London, Dylan Gabriel makes his NFL debut. You can see that on NFL Network. They start at 9:30am Eastern from London, exclusively on NFL Network. NFL Network analyst Kurt Warner joining us on the program. Would you have started Dylan Gabriel overseas against Minnesota for his debut?

[Paulie Gundy]

I'm not sure that would have been the route that I went. I understand why, understand where they're at. I understand it's the NFL. So there's not any easy game, so to speak. But, but yeah, that's, that's a lot of things going on along with playing against a Brian Flores defense that's going to throw a lot of looks at you that, yeah, I don't think it's going to be an easy one for, for Dylan Gabriel, but Minnesota obviously didn't play great last week either. So maybe you look at this as an opportunity to get a win and get on track.

[Dan Patrick]

What advice would you give Dylan Gabriel?

[Paulie Gundy]

I think the biggest thing is just realize that you don't have to do it all on your own. I think when the spotlight is on you and you get put into that position, the first thing to do is, is to say, okay, I got, I got to prove to everybody why I'm starting now and I got to go out and make all of these plays. And, you know, when I took over in 99, I looked around and said, okay, I got a lot of playmakers around me. I don't have to do this all by myself. Allow them to help you along the way. It's okay to punt every once in a while because you got a great defense that can help you out. And so not feeling like that spotlight is on you and you have to prove to everybody why you're the starter right now.

[Dan Patrick]

How do you teach a young quarterback to get rid of the ball?

[Paulie Gundy]

I think getting rid of the ball is understanding what you're seeing, you know, a comfort level with the plays that you're running. To me, it's always about if you know where your eyes should be to start the process. That's the first step in being able to get the ball out, knowing what you're doing and getting through your progressions. And, you know, sometimes with young guys, and again against the Brian Flores defense, they're going to give you lots of things to look at. They're going to give guys up at the line of scrimmage, they're going to have guys running out into zone coverage, so they're going to make that harder. But understanding your playbook so well that, hey, in this kind of look, this is where my eyes need to start and that speeds up the process. So that would be what I was. Would always be focusing on with a young quarterback.

[Dan Patrick]

What was your thought when the Rams were going to go on fourth down in overtime and go for the win as opposed to go for the tie?

[Paulie Gundy]

Yeah, I mean, I don't mind the decision at all. You're at home, you want to get one against a division rival. Was surprised, I think, like a lot of people with the play call, you know, I just, you know, talked earlier in the week about how the Rams are so good, especially getting close to the red zone with their naked bootleg, you know, play action game. Matthew Stafford so good at it. They're creative with it. That that's where I thought they would go to give more options to Matthew Stafford instead of just running it right up the gut. So I, I more disappointed, I think, with the play call than I was the decision to go for it on fourth down. Because I fully understand why you want to win that game, especially with San Francisco being as beat up as they were. You didn't want to come out of that thing saying, oh man, we, you know, we lost or even we tied that team. Unfortunately, it worked out that way. But I think they're probably reeling a little bit today because everybody going in like, oh my gosh, it's going to be walking the park for the Rams. And you know, Mac Jones played great and the team showed up and had a great win.

[Dan Patrick]

Give me the most must win game of the weekend for you.

[Paulie Gundy]

For me, it's going to be Texans, Ravens, both teams, I think high hopes for both teams, you know, expected to win their division. Both sitting at 1 and 3 right now and neither one playing very good football. I know Texans got to win last week, but, you know, that was against, you know, a Tennessee team that hasn't won yet. So CJ Stroud doesn't look the same to me. Their offense doesn't look good to me. And then on the other side, I think we know all the issues and then the possibility of not having their star quarterback and Lamar Jackson, I think that is a must win for both of these teams with, you know, where that division is going right now.

[Dan Patrick]

But explain to me what's going on with CJ Stroud.

[Paulie Gundy]

I wish I could. You know, when he was a rookie, I had him in my top five quarterbacks in the league. The way that he played his rookie year and it was his ability to see things and his accuracy and the technique that was with it in the last two years. I don't know, I really can't tell you what's going on. I don't feel like he's seeing it very well. I feel like he's missing things. I feel like when they bring pressure, he doesn't have answers. And it's weird to me because very seldom, obviously do you see that when a young guy seems to have those answers and do those things and then it falls away from them. And it's really been the last year and a half where I don't believe he's playing, you know, as well as he did. And a lot of people point to the offensive line and some of the issues up there. But I think it starts with CJ and you know, just watching him, he's not making the throws and making the decisions that he did as a rookie. And I, I can't tell you, I can't put a finger on it because he was so good as a rookie. It's hard for me to fact what's going wrong or what's going sideways on this to take him to where he is right now.

[Dan Patrick]

Talking to Kurt Warner, the Hall of Famer and Super bowl mvp, two time NFL mvp. NFL Network will have the Vikings and the Browns. That'll be 9:30 Eastern from London. We had a conversation, we've had a couple of conversations this week. One is focused on Russell Wilson. Can you play yourself out of the hall of Fame now? I don't know if you had him in the hall of Fame, but he's playing himself maybe out of consideration for the hall of Fame. Do you believe that given that he had a 10 year run that was pretty impressive, these last couple of years have been pretty, pretty rough.

[Paulie Gundy]

Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I would say play your way out of it. You know, I think what I would say in these last few years with Russell is maybe it gives you a different perspective of the kind of player that he was, is that, you know, when he was in Seattle, obviously they had a great defense when they went to the on their run. And he was asked to be more of a complimentary piece, more of a playmaking piece than actually, you know, playing more. Drop that quarterback, carrying the team with his right arm. And so when he left, I think the idea. I think it was Russell's idea as well as wherever he chose, is that he wanted to show people that he could play the position more conventionally and more like, I think, you know, guys like Brady and. And Manning and those things, and he didn't have to just be a playmaker. And then that hasn't worked out. And, you know, he tried in numerous spots now, and it hasn't worked out to show people that. And so I think, if anything, it maybe gets people to look back and go, okay, you know, who is the real Russell Wilson here? And again, I don't know if that plays anybody out of the hall of Fame, because you mentioned it. The first decade statistically was really, really impressive. But I think it may have people step back and go, okay, you know, who is, you know, the guy that we're looking at and, you know, the hall of Fame type of thing, Was he an elite player at that position comparative to. To other players? And, you know, you know as well as I do that there's a lot of different ways to look at it. I mean, you look at my situation is I didn't play as many games and certain things, but when I played, I played at a high level, so I was able to get in. Some other guys may not have played it quite a highest level, but played longer and have better stats and those things, and they get into the hall of Fame. And so there's so many ways to weigh, I think, what the hall of Fame is. But that's what I would say, not necessarily play his way out of it, but have people look at him a little bit differently and kind of compare the two quarterbacks to decide, okay, who was Russell Wilson and does he fit in that category.

[Dan Patrick]

But if you don't go to Arizona, are you getting into the hall of Fame?

[Paulie Gundy]

I mean, I. I would highly doubt it. You know, even though, you know, there was an elite level of play and two Super Bowls and two MVPs in St. Louis, I think ultimately it would have been just not enough time to be able to have, you know, another three years and go to another super bowl with another team, I think is what kind of kind of stamped that, you know. And, you know, again, it could have easily said, hey, this guy at his peak, you know, was a Hall of Fame quarterback, but that peak Wasn't long enough. And so, yeah, again, I think we've seen a lot of different ways for guys to, you know, solidify themselves as hall of Famers, and, you know, that becomes the ultimate question, you know, at the end of the day, I mean, you have Eli Manning. That's, you know, that's, you know, right there on the cusp. And I think they're weighing heavily. Super Bowls.

[Dan Patrick]

Right?

[Paulie Gundy]

Super Bowls and, you know, winning Super Bowls. Well, Russell has been to two Super Bowls. I know he only won one of those, but, you know, so what exactly is the determining factor in getting to the hall of Fame? I don't know if anybody knows exactly. And, and as you said, and we mentioned that first 10 years, you know, I. I think, you know, you asked me, if I didn't go to, you know, Arizona, would I have been in the hall of Fame? Probably not. If Russell Wilson didn't go anywhere else besides Seattle, would he be in the hall of Fame? And the answer is probably yes.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I remember I spoke to you, maybe it was the season that you went to the super bowl in Arizona. And you. We talked about what, you know, am I a Hall of Famer? And I said, no, but if you take Arizona to the super bowl, you'd be a Hall of Famer. Do you remember we had that conversation?

[Paulie Gundy]

I do, Yep.

[Dan Patrick]

After the game. And I was there to hand out the trophy, but I. I sought you out. I wanted to find you after the game. And I remember the only thing I said to you when I walked, I walked up to you, I think you were with your wife. And I said, you're going to the hall of Fame. That was the only thing I think I said to you, because obviously you're distraught because, you know, you think you're winning the super bowl. And I just remember you're going to the Super Bowl. And it stayed in my head that whole time after I talked to you and you got to the super bowl, could have won the super bowl and you went to the hall of Fame. One other thing I want to bring up. We just had a caller saying what quarterback had the biggest impact or changed the game the most in NFL history, in your opinion?

[Paulie Gundy]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Who would you single out?

[Paulie Gundy]

That's a. That's a good question. And again, I don't know about one quarterback, you know, because I. I think about Dan Marino and how, you know, he played the game so differently at that time. I think they were a pass first team. I think about our offense in St. Louis. I think we, you know, changed the Way the game was played and what we see now, I think really started with. With our team. And then I heard you talking a little bit about Peyton Manning. And the one thing I would say about Peyton Manning is there's no doubt Peyton Manning was the best quarterback we've ever seen before the snap, at playing the game before the snap, changing plays, knowing what a defense was going to do. But I wouldn't say that necessarily transformed the game because I don't know if there's been anybody anywhere close to Peyton at doing that. And so when I think about changing the game, it's about, okay, how did I, you know, lead the next generation into playing a similar way? You know, and maybe you look at a guy like a Michael Vick because of where the NFL has gone now in terms of the athletic quarterback and using guys, you know, in two different ways. And so not sure how I would answer that, but I do think, you know, Peyton was unique and different and the best we've ever seen it at playing before the snap, where a lot of guys like myself were way better playing after the snap than before.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. I also mentioned Joe Namath because he won the singular most important game in NFL history. He brought about a merger. It's hard to argue with anybody else. There were better quarterbacks, but. But he guaranteed it. He did it all. Eyes on that. And one of the biggest upsets we've ever seen. And so I would probably say Joe was the most impactful quarterback of all time because of that one moment.

[Paulie Gundy]

Yeah, well. And I think he also was the first quarterback to throw for 4,000 yards or something in a league, too.

[Dan Patrick]

So, I mean, he was doing games, probably.

[Paulie Gundy]

Yeah, it was doing things that. That people weren't doing at that time. You know, I didn't grow up seeing a lot of Joe Naman. So, yeah, I think of, you know, more of my time. But. But, yeah, I mean, yeah, with everything that he did and the guaranteed victory and throwing the ball the way he did, I could surely make that argument.

[Dan Patrick]

God, he threw a pretty good ball. Like, effortless. Effortless. I bet the best passer of best quarterback at throwing the ball is who.

[Paulie Gundy]

At throwing the ball. And what do you. What do you mean by that?

[Dan Patrick]

Like, which one is. You know, you see certain pitchers and they, you know, they make every pit. You know, but yeah, if.

[Paulie Gundy]

If I was picking a guy, I would probably pick Dan Marino. Just watching him throw and, you know, the release that he had and, you know, the arm strength, but also the touch on the football, you know, he was the guy that, you know, that I grew up kind of going, man, if you can throw the ball like that, I mean, that would be, you know. Yeah. Try to emulate him in my front yard, because I thought he was that special of a thrower of a football that maybe that I've ever seen.

[Dan Patrick]

What did. What did you say to him when you met him?

[Paulie Gundy]

Well, I mean, you know, I was in all like. Like a lot of people, but I probably said that exact thing. It's like, man, I grew up, you know, trying to be you and, you know, wanting to be what you were on a football field, you know, And I obviously shared the story of, at my hall of Fame speech, that when I was stocking shelves at the grocery store, I was in the cereal aisle, and one of the nights I was stocking the Wheaties box, and Dan Marino was on the wheelies box. And so he gave me a lot of inspiration when I was, you know, chasing my dream and then stocking shelves, going, hey, one day. One day I'm gonna be like Dan Marino, and I'm gonna be on a Wheaties box. You know, so, you know, just fun to have those guys that, you know, that you want to emulate, you want to chase after. And then you meet a guy like Dan, who's such a great individual, too, that lived up to the hype not only with what he did on the field, but also who he was off the field.

[Dan Patrick]

Have fun this weekend. Good to catch up with you again. Thank you, Kurt.

[Paulie Gundy]

You, too. My man.

[Dan Patrick]

Kurt Warner, hall of Famer, Vikings, Browns. On NFL Network this weekend. They will start at 9:30am Eastern on NFL Network in London. David in Knoxville. Hi, David.

[Paulie Gundy]

Hey, Dan. Good morning. How are you?

[Dan Patrick]

Good, good, good.

[Paulie Gundy]

Let me just first by telling you, it's such a treat. It is to be able to speak with you and just to kind of follow up most of your callers this morning with you, listen to your interviews. Just makes my day. And so many of them. I can remember so many things that you said and what they said. But my question is to you now, was there a particular celebrity or sports figure that you were interviewing? And you said, hey, wait a minute. I'm the Dan. I am the Dan. Patrick.

[Dan Patrick]

No, what do you mean by that, David?

[Paulie Gundy]

That you're probably the best interviewer out there and that it's. A lot of interviewers think that the people that they're interviewing are doing them a favor. But in your instance, when you interview somebody, you set them at ease. The answers they give you are such personal answers that, you know, you. You have it perfected an art in what you do.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but I don't. I, I. If I said, hey, I'm or think I'm the Dan Patrick, that takes away from my strategy and philosophy of interviewing you. And that is, it's not about my question. It's about your answer. I always want your answer to be important because if somebody says, oh, yes, great questions, I always say, how are the answers? That's how you know you're asking a good question. But, no, you have to make it about the person. A lot of people make it about themselves with their question as opposed to, what am I trying to get out of you? And I think you got to be selfless in. In an interviewing process, and not many people are because they want it to be about them. And the question, there's nothing wrong with why or how or who or when or where. Those are great questions. All right, if you're watching on Peacock, we're going outside to the grills. We have King's Hawaiian in, and chef Greg is finishing up our meat Friday. We'll take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store for Monday after this.

[Paulie Gundy]

Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app.

[Dan Patrick]

Search FSR to listen live.

[Paulie Gundy]

Hey, this is Matt Jones, and I'm Drew Franklin, and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining, and twice a week, that is exactly what you're gonna get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different.

[Dan Patrick]

Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game.

[Paulie Gundy]

What was that?

[Dan Patrick]

Looks like something that should not be sold.

[Paulie Gundy]

Oh, my.

[Dan Patrick]

So that was my other big Colts takeaway.

[Paulie Gundy]

They sold that.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Paulie Gundy]

I might want to go back at the Colt Stadium. Yeah, I want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah. I thought the shape we have with.

[Dan Patrick]

Pretzels was working pretty well for generations.

[Paulie Gundy]

We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go.

[Dan Patrick]

I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73.

[Paulie Gundy]

He is a young 73. He is spry. I wouldn't fight him. I would listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential.

[Paulie Gundy]

I was going to schools to try.

[Dan Patrick]

To teach kids these skills and I.

[Paulie Gundy]

Get eye rolling from teachers or I get students who would be like, it's easier to punch someone in the face.

[Dan Patrick]

When you think about emotion regulation, like.

[Paulie Gundy]

You'Re not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortless to use.

[Dan Patrick]

Unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it.

[Paulie Gundy]

If it's going to be beneficial to.

[Dan Patrick]

You because it's easy to say, like, go blank yourself, right?

[Paulie Gundy]

It's easy. It's easy to just drink the extra beer. It's easy to ignore, to suppress seeing.

[Dan Patrick]

A colleague who's bothering you and just like, walk the other way.

[Paulie Gundy]

Avoidance is easier.

[Dan Patrick]

Ignoring is easier. Denial is easier.

[Paulie Gundy]

Drinking is easier.

[Dan Patrick]

Yelling, screaming is easy. Complex problem solving, meditating, you know, takes effort. Listen to the psychology podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. December 29, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The holiday rush. Parents hauling luggage. Kids gripping their new Christmas toys.

[Paulie Gundy]

Then at 6.

[Dan Patrick]

Everything changed.

[Paulie Gundy]

There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal. Apparently the explosion actually impelled metal glass. The injured were being loaded into ambulances. Just a chaotic, chaotic scene.

[Dan Patrick]

In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged. And it was here to stay. Terrorism, law and order, Criminal justice system is back in season two. We're turning our focus to a threat that hides in plain sight that's harder to predict and even harder to stop.

[Paulie Gundy]

Listen to the new season of law.

[Dan Patrick]

And criminal justice System on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Paulie Gundy]

But the humility in knowing that life is this classroom that we should never graduate from is what is going to keep you growing. And that's all that matters. World Mental Health Day is around the corner. And on my podcast, just heal with Dr. J, I dive into what it.

[Dan Patrick]

Really means to care for your mind, body and spirit.

[Paulie Gundy]

From breaking generational patterns to building emotional capacity, healing is a journey, and wholeness is is the destination.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm gonna walk away feeling very healed.

[Paulie Gundy]

And feeling like, yes, I'm gonna continue.

[Dan Patrick]

My healing journey and I'm gonna get some keys from you.

[Paulie Gundy]

Listen to just heal with Dr. J from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, puzzlers. Let's start with a quick puzzle. The answer is Ken Jennings appearance on the puzzler with A.J.

[Dan Patrick]

Jacobs.

[Paulie Gundy]

The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land? Jeopardy.

[Dan Patrick]

Truthers who say that you were given all the answers believe in.

[Paulie Gundy]

I guess they would be conspiracy theorists.

[Dan Patrick]

That's right. Are there Jeopardy. Truthers? Are there people who say that it it was rigged?

[Paulie Gundy]

Yeah. Ever since I was first on, people are like, they gave you the answers.

[Dan Patrick]

Right. And then there's the other ones which.

[Paulie Gundy]

Are like they gave you the answers and you still blew it. Don't miss Jeopardy.

[Dan Patrick]

Legend Ken Jennings on our special game.

[Paulie Gundy]

Show week of the Puzzler podcast. The puzzler is the best place to.

[Dan Patrick]

Get your daily word puzzle fix.

[Paulie Gundy]

Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

Or wherever you get your podcasts. Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store for Monday. Thanks again to King's Hawaiian chef Greg. Boy, that's great food. And all the sliders that he made, they have step by step that they'll have that at kings hawaiian or danpatrick.com but my thanks again. Meat Friday, always special when Kings Hawaiian comes into town. Oh, my goodness. I almost forgot. Rhyme time.

[Paulie Gundy]

Getting close to the end of the program here.

[Dan Patrick]

I know.

[Paulie Gundy]

Kicking it in.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm sorry.

[Paulie Gundy]

You want to finish that sandwich? I had a little something in my tooth there.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, now do you want to explain rhyme time? Rhyme timers.

[Paulie Gundy]

I'm going to give you a couple of clues. The answers rhyme with one another. An example of that would be hall.

[Dan Patrick]

Of Famer question mark Reds Charlie.

[Paulie Gundy]

I can give you the answer or you guys can guess if you're not sure. These the answers rhyme with one another.

[Dan Patrick]

Hall of Famer, Reds Charlie. The Reds Charlie. Hustle.

[Paulie Gundy]

So hustle is your second word. Hall of Famer question.

[Dan Patrick]

Russell. Russell.

[Paulie Gundy]

Hustle.

[Dan Patrick]

That's how the game. Russell Wilson Jr. III.

[Paulie Gundy]

How about this one? I'm a man King Kong. I'm a man King Kong.

[Dan Patrick]

Paulie Gundy.

[Paulie Gundy]

Bundy.

[Dan Patrick]

Bundy. Bundy. King Kong Bundy. We know. The old wrestler.

[Paulie Gundy]

Dumb blonde, pass hole.

[Dan Patrick]

Dumb blonde, passhole Ditz. Fritz. Ditzy.

[Paulie Gundy]

Fritzy is what we were looking at.

[Dan Patrick]

But we'll accept that. Potato chips.

[Paulie Gundy]

Okay, we don't have to go there. Puck's Fancy Eatery. Dolph Lundgren. Puck's Fancy Eatery.

[Dan Patrick]

Dolph Lundgren. Rocky 4. Who did Dolph Lundgren play? Ivan Drago.

[Paulie Gundy]

Drago or Drago Spago. Spago.

[Dan Patrick]

Drago is what we're looking at. Is Spago still around? I think. I'm not sure. Is it okay? Pretty famous.

[Paulie Gundy]

Even if it's not.

[Dan Patrick]

No, no, I really.

[Paulie Gundy]

How about A's Barry? Bronco Blitzer? A's Barry.

[Dan Patrick]

Bronco Blitzer.

[Paulie Gundy]

We were just talking about him earlier. The lefty back in the day with the A's.

[Dan Patrick]

Barry. Barry Zito. And the Bronco Blitzer would be Nick Bonito. Bonito. Bonito. I think they were. Oh, come on.

[Paulie Gundy]

What's wrong with Zito Bonito?

[Dan Patrick]

That's tough. Oh, come on. I can't make them so weird.

[Paulie Gundy]

This one you'll get Tuscaloosa Head Brown's mime. Tuscaloosa head Brown's mime.

[Dan Patrick]

Something. Shador. Yes, Paulie. Deborah Shador.

[Paulie Gundy]

Deborah Shador.

[Dan Patrick]

There you go.

[Paulie Gundy]

That's how it works. How about this one?

[Dan Patrick]

Sauce Brand Spears. Not Brittany Sauce. Ragu. Swagu. Swagu.

[Paulie Gundy]

That's nice. How about. Here we go.

[Dan Patrick]

Camacho.

[Paulie Gundy]

Hannibal Camacho. Hannibal.

[Dan Patrick]

Hector Lecter. There you go. Hector Lecter.

[Paulie Gundy]

Hannibal Lecter. Amusement park car, Seattle swinger.

[Dan Patrick]

An amusement park car, Seattle swinger.

[Paulie Gundy]

What kind of cars did we get into as a kid where we bang into one another at the amusement park?

[Dan Patrick]

Bumper.

[Paulie Gundy]

Seattle bumper dumper.

[Dan Patrick]

You love. You love this. How excited Todd gets.

[Paulie Gundy]

Weatherspoon angry wnbaer. Weatherspoon angry wnbaer.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Marva Nafisa. Teresa.

[Paulie Gundy]

Teresa Nafisa. Going in the order of weatherspoon, angry wnba. We're gonna go.

[Dan Patrick]

Teresa Nafisa. Give me one more.

[Paulie Gundy]

Okay, one more.

[Dan Patrick]

Let's go with shilling, hosiery, cooking, wrestler. Shilling, hosiery, cooking, wrestler. Something rock.

[Paulie Gundy]

What?

[Dan Patrick]

Kurt Shillings. Hosiery, Sock.

[Paulie Gundy]

That would be sock rock. Let's.

[Dan Patrick]

Let's leave on a good note. I'll give you one more here. Okay.

[Paulie Gundy]

Okay. Snake allower.

[Dan Patrick]

Snake allower. Stabler, enabler.

[Paulie Gundy]

That's exactly it.

[Dan Patrick]

Stabler, enabler. Me one more quickly, Nick.

[Paulie Gundy]

Now Yankee then. And then we'll end on that, Nick.

[Dan Patrick]

Now Yankee, then.

[Paulie Gundy]

Top player in the.

[Dan Patrick]

Knicks and a great Yankee, Nick.

[Paulie Gundy]

Now a Yankee, then Brunson. Munson. Brunson.

[Dan Patrick]

Munson. Jalen Brunson. Alrighty. Thank you, Tom. That's rhyme time.

[Paulie Gundy]

Yeah, we got it in.

[Dan Patrick]

We did. He sent me an email where he. He was crying.

[Paulie Gundy]

May have sent three emails.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, you did.

[Paulie Gundy]

And I dropped on the floor as you went by. Oh, I dropped my.

[Dan Patrick]

I know. Okay. This day in sports history, Paul.

[Paulie Gundy]

Let's see, the only one I got. Bobby Thompson's home run. Bottom of the 9th, 1951 for the new York Giants, winning the pennant. And Barry Bonds broke Babe Ruth's major league record for walks at 171 in 2001. That's it.

[Dan Patrick]

This guy became the first player in baseball history to win batting titles in three different decades. 76, 80, and 90. Marvin.

[Paulie Gundy]

George Brett. Come on now. There you go.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. He finished with a.320. Back when batting average mattered or people cared about it. He had.329 and won the batting race. Seattle's Ichiro finished the season with 262 hits. Back when base hits matter. Let's see final results of the poll question. Seaton. Yeah, we got three of them up there right now. One of them we really haven't gotten to. But 67% of the audience would rather be a Hall of Fame quarterback than a Hall of Fame pitcher. Right now, the most infamous interview in show history is Charlie Sheen followed by Matt Harvey. And we could maybe save some of this for tomorrow. Oh, we don't have to. We don't have too much. But if your child plays for your favorite team's rival, who are you rooting for? Your child or your team? So Cam Schlitter. Schlitler. He. He grew up a Red Sox fan. So the family, you know, big Red Sox fans, and then he kicks them out of. Knocks him out of the playoff. Yeah, 81% rooting for their kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Paulie Gundy]

Paul, do you think that's the real answer, though, in the moment? How do you not root for your team to ultimately win the game?

[Dan Patrick]

I think you actually have that backwards. How do you not root for your kid to win? Well, I know your team gives a crap about the team, I think, but.

[Paulie Gundy]

I'm talking about a hardcore fan of a certain team. I wonder. In theory, of course, you root for your kid, but when you're watching last night, you it's. I wonder you could be happy that your team lost.

[Dan Patrick]

That person is a psychopath. Got to root for your kid.

[Paulie Gundy]

It's your arch rivals in the playoffs.

[Dan Patrick]

Todd, what did you learn today? Well, I've been a Broncos fan since forever.

[Paulie Gundy]

If Jordan was a Raider playing for the Raiders, I would not root for the Raiders. Kurt Warner's most must win game of the weekend is the 1 in 3 Tekkens and the 1 in 3 Ravens.

[Dan Patrick]

And thinks that Marina was the best. If your son was the quarterback of the Raiders and they're facing each other in the play, I would hope he'd.

[Paulie Gundy]

Throw for 500 yards and four touchdowns.

[Dan Patrick]

And they would lose.3128. Thanks for the phone calls, emails, tweets, the all around support. It's been our pleasure to try to entertain you. We look forward to Monday for Fritzi, Seaton, Marv, Polly, yours truly and the Brgs. Have a great weekend, everybody. Introducing the U rules of value from Burger King and you. Rule number one, you choose food you actually want to. There's seven tasty options, so try the $5 Duo or $7 Trio. Choose your deal price and participation vary us only. No substitutions. Restrictions apply.

[Paulie Gundy]

Hey, this is Matt Jones, I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We're just here to try to give.

[Dan Patrick]

You an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game.

[Paulie Gundy]

What was that? Oh, my. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week, that is exactly what you're going to get. Listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. What's up everybody? It's snacks from the trap, nerds and all. October long, we're bringing you the Horror.

[Dan Patrick]

Boogity, boogity, boogity. We kicking off this month with some of my best horror games to keep you terrified.

[Paulie Gundy]

Then we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movies and figuring out why black people always die first.

[Dan Patrick]

And it's the return of Tony's horror.

[Paulie Gundy]

Show side Quest, written and narrated by yours truly. We'll also be doing a full episode reading with commentary, and we'll cap it off with a horror movie battle royale. Open your free iHeartRadio app and search Trapp Nurse podcast and listen.

[Dan Patrick]

Now. Do we really need another podcast with a condescending finance bro trying to tell us how to spend our own money? No, thank you. Instead, check out Brown Ambition. Each week I your host, Mandy Money gives you real talk, real advice with a heavy dose of I feel useless. Like on Fridays when I take your questions for the baqa. Whether you're trying to invest for your future, navigate a toxic workplace, I got you. Listen to Brown ambition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Dan, he's Ty. Hello. And we're the Solid Verbal College Football Podcast. Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else, and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan. Join us all season long as we ride the rollercoaster of this ridiculous sport. Listen to the solid verbal college football podcasts on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We don't just love college football, Ty. We live it. This is an iHeart podcast.