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Dan Patrick
You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Final hour in this Tuesday. Spent a lot of time talking about the basketball last night. A couple of road surprises with the Knicks and the Nuggets. You got the Pacers trying to go for two in a row against the Cavs tonight. They're nine point underdogs and the warriors are getting seven at the Timberwolves. But the Knicks come back. The Celtics missed 45, three pointers and the Nuggets at the buzzer beating OKC. And this is the third time this season that OKC blew a double digit lead to Denver Joker Jokic went for 42 and 22. 8773 DP Show Email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @dpshow we also talked about the players that aren't hall of Famers, but they're hall of Very Good. And I think Paulie was trying to put Aaron Gordon in the hall of Very Good. And I said, no, he's in the hall of Good. He had a game winner last night, Recency bias. But he's not the hall of Very Good. Yes, Paul, he's pretty famous. He's been on a championship team. He was in Uncle Drew. Uncle Drew, Yeah.
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Gilbert Arenas
Bonus, you're in a movie.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, that sounds very goodish. Yeah, goodish. Pretty good. He's in the hall of Goodish. He's on level one. Yeah. We've had a lot of suggestions here, people putting in the hall of Very Good, but we'll get to your phone calls coming up. Is Gilbert arena set to join us? Todd?
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Gilbert Arenas
Couple minutes.
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Dan Patrick
Okay, let's see. How about Adam in la? Hi, Adam. What's on your mind today? Hey, good morning. DP Dan at 62 and a hardish 230 big shot. Bob Robert Horry, he's at least in the hall of Very Good or the hall of Very Clutch. If we can maybe start one of. He possibly should make the hall of Fame for winning seven rings with three different franchises.
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Gilbert Arenas
So many big shots in the playoffs. But he probably won't get in of.
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Dan Patrick
Course because he has the career stats of Draymond Green. Little joke there.
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Gilbert Arenas
Also, Nikola Jokic again last night.
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Dan Patrick
So amazing to watch. Just dominated the fourth quarter down the stretch.
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Gilbert Arenas
I mean just pounding the paint, not.
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Dan Patrick
Shooting 23s like the Celtics.
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Gilbert Arenas
Aaron Gordon, he's starting to make his.
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Dan Patrick
Case for the hall of Clutch. Maybe after all these game winners, he's starting to hit along with Jalen. Along with Jalen Brunson hitting all those huge shots for the Knicks down the stretch to get them to come back, win against Boston. And one last thing. Dp, I still haven't received your Facebook request, friend request, so I'll be waiting on that. It's not going to happen. Marvin said, hey, you haven't, you know, taken my suggestion, picking up my request to friend me. And I go, no, no, I'm just watching Facebook. That's all I'm doing. I'm watching Facebook, all these videos, but I don't want any friends. I don't want to. Seaton's concerned about me with my Facebook edition now. It's addiction. It's a lot. It's, it's, it's alarm. It's all at once and it's a lot. Yeah, I know, but I, but it allows me to watch a lot of video. I was watching Tom Chambers videos. I watched Nick Van Exel videos, Jason Williams videos. You know, you can always watch Jordan Bird. And just kind of going through the archives, there's Gilbert Arenas, host of Gill's arena podcast, and it is doing some big business. Just surpassed 1 million subscribers on Underdog, and it's streaming Monday through Thursday on YouTube. Also available on Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcast. And there's a documentary out on Gill. It's on Netflix available. It's called Untold Shooting Guards. We'll talk about that in a moment. First of all, how's your son doing?
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Gilbert Arenas
He's, he's, he's doing very well. He has some angels with him that morning, so, you know, glad he's, you know, fully recovering, didn't have any major injuries, so, you know, that's all we can pray for.
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Dan Patrick
What's that phone call like early in the morning?
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Gilbert Arenas
It was, it was devastating. Well, it was because I, you know, usually I wake up at 4:30 and I go to the Tesla app to see if, you know, if he's heading home or if he's at the gym. So his car is at the gym. So I continue my workout. And my daughter said, what are you doing? I'm like, obviously, I'm working out. And she said, you haven't heard. Your son just got an accident at the gym. There's like, no, he's at the hospital. So I just stopped everything and ran over there and then was like, what the hell is going on? Like, was it his car? What's going on? And then I realized that the, the app actually malfunctioned. And I found that out a couple of days later when he started waking up and off the drugs. But, you know, My thing was making sure there was no broken limbs, there was no burns. And you know, lucky for him, trapped inside of a car for so long, you know, it's, it's luckily there, you know, there was bystanders that heard the crash that early in the morning that.
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Dan Patrick
Got him out, but they had to put him in a coma.
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Gilbert Arenas
Yeah. Because they were, he was, he was a little stronger than they, they thought and he was waking up, you know, going crazy. So they put him in induced coma just to get the air, I guess, you know, was it sis Sid. They were getting a smoke and all of that out of his.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Okay.
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Gilbert Arenas
So he, I guess he was, he was in a car. It looked like about 10, 12 minutes.
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Dan Patrick
Just inhaling that.
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Gilbert Arenas
Just inhaling that. Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. All right, well that's good to hear. And he's still going to usc, of course. Okay.
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Gilbert Arenas
You know, he, he did his, his sense of humor was still there when he was waking up and he asked where is he? And was. Oh, you had the UCLA hospital. And he, he wrote tell Mus. I'm sorry that I'm at ucla. I'm like, not right now. Not right now.
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Dan Patrick
So coach Musc right now.
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Gilbert Arenas
Not with the jokes right now. We're still little scared.
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Dan Patrick
Okay. You got to see the documentary.
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Gilbert Arenas
Uhhuh.
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Dan Patrick
What stood out to you?
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Gilbert Arenas
I thought it was. I, I personally thought it was, you know, it was, it was done good.
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Dan Patrick
You know, like, explain how they came up with the idea that they're going to do a documentary called Untold Shooting Guards and the, the double meaning.
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Gilbert Arenas
Well, that, that, that, that's a great title.
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Dan Patrick
I'm.
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Gilbert Arenas
I'm not even gonna lie just, you know, for, you know, everything that went on. But, you know, at first I wanted to tell this story to get the real story out there, but I never wanted to tell it without Javaris aside.
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Dan Patrick
Okay, explain this to our audience just so they know what you're talking about.
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Gilbert Arenas
You know, so me and Javarres, you know, which was my, you know, rook at the time or second year player, but he was, you know, one of my guys on the team. We was playing a card game and I didn't like the way he was conversating after losing, you know, he was losing. So I didn't like the tone that he was saying to the other player. So as a veteran, as the guy that he, you know, he looks up to, you know, I, I checked him and you know, when you're losing money, I'm checking you in front of players that got into a little altercation and you know, we challenged each other. So the challenge was, you know, you're going to shoot me. Well, I want to see you do it. You know, I was calling this bluff and it wasn't as drama filled as, you know, the media made it seem. Right. It calmed down very quickly.
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Dan Patrick
But I know you guys got guns at the card game.
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Gilbert Arenas
No, no, no, this is. Okay, this was that, this was at the lock in the locker room. The car came on a plane from Arizona to Washington.
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Dan Patrick
Okay.
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Gilbert Arenas
That long flight and you know, they play cards on the game.
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Dan Patrick
So how much money are we talking about here?
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Gilbert Arenas
The pot at the time when I joined was probably eleven hundred dollars.
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Dan Patrick
Oh.
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Gilbert Arenas
But I, I think he was down about six grand.
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Dan Patrick
Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. So when you guys land, how, how are you guys when you get off the plane? And then when do you know that maybe this is escalating?
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Gilbert Arenas
I'm an, I'm an antagonizer. So you know my personality, as you can see, I'm an antagonizer. I'm gonna point, I'm gonna poke at you. So, you know, him losing, I'm poking at the end of the plane, just poking his buttons. But we did, we did have a day off. So I think we landed Saturday. We did have Sunday off. And this happened Monday where I'm still, you know, you know, I want to see if you're still going to be about your word. So I had the guns on, on his chair and I wrote a note, you know, pick one, you know, to see, hey, pick one of these nice guns to shoot me with. But I knew he wasn't, he couldn't shoot me because there was no bullets for the gun. Right. And then you had to go to Maryland to actually buy bullets. And the chances of them having a Desert Eagle.50 cal bullet or whatever he picked wasn't going to be there. So I wasn't really scared for my life. It was more, I'm going to call your, your bluff. Let's see what you're going to do. Type of, it was one of those type of, type of ordeals, you know, egotistic stuff that locker rooms go through.
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Dan Patrick
I don't know.
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Gilbert Arenas
On another level, on another level, I.
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Dan Patrick
Don'T, I don't know if this happened with other teams where guys are bringing in GU there, but.
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Gilbert Arenas
No, no, no. The other teams, they just get in fist fights.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Gilbert Arenas
I just, you know, so, you know, it was, it was very immature on especially my part, you know, being the older player on a team, you know, very Immature. But I, I, I did it. I, I really tried to correct my wrong as, as soon as it happened by, you know, really taking the blame for it and trying to see if the media just focus on me and get away from him.
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Dan Patrick
When did you know that it was going to be a bigger story than just a locker room prank?
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Gilbert Arenas
When I think when Peter Vessi got a hold of it and he wrote the article, you know, okay, Corral inside the wizard locker Room, I was like, oh.
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Dan Patrick
Right, right.
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Gilbert Arenas
So it was because before that, you know, it had been on like the 21st. So for the most part, the Washington, the Washington, you know, Wil Bond and Pornheiser, they wasn't touching the story, you know, even though they heard rumbles of it. Right. It was like, okay, it's contained. Okay, let's just go on about our business, you know, let's not try that again. And, you know, once he, he leaked the story, it was all hell broke.
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Dan Patrick
Loose after that is Gilbert Arenas, host of Gill's arena podcast, three time NBA all star with the Wizards and the documentary Untold Doc. It's Untold Shooting Guards.
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Gilbert Arenas
I don't know why I like the title so much. Like, it stands out, you know, when you're talking about putting a doc and you want the views. That's a great title.
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Dan Patrick
Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Explain to me the logic of the Celtics last night, that shooters keep shooting, but at what point do you change up your offensive philosophy? Maybe try to get a 2, maybe go to the hoop, maybe get a free, like anything, you being a great scorer, after a while you got to realize maybe it's not my night.
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Gilbert Arenas
You know, it's the Achilles heels of when Celtics do lose, when they do lose the performance they had last night, right? They're going to be 10 for 60, 12 for 58. Right. You're beatable at that moment in time. Right. You know, a team that's taking a bunch of twos, they're going to beat you. You're shooting about 180 points worth of threes, but you got 105 points. That doesn't even make sense of a winning basketball, you know, team. So there has to be someone or some, some strategy of at a certain point, let go of the three point shot in attack. Because if you're not playing a team who also relies on threes, like a New York Knick team, they're going to actually beat you. You're beatable at that point. When you're making your threes and you're shooting 40%, well yeah, you're, you're, you're going to blow everybody out. But in a seven game series, you're going to have two games like this, right? You're gonna have one and a half games where you're on fire. So you got to figure out how to win the games when you're not shooting very well because you're going to automatically give two games to the New York Knicks just off of just a seven game series on how shooting goes.
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Dan Patrick
Better chance to win their series. The Nuggets or the Knicks?
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Gilbert Arenas
Nuggets. When you, when you have a guy like Jokic who can manipulate the game, you know, offensively just hanging in there, it's like yesterday watching the game. Denver wasn't playing well and it seemed like OKC was playing very well, but they were still hanging in there. And as long as, you know, you got five minutes left, Yokage is down 10. You, you gotta give it to the guy who's been there before that, who has three MVPs, who should have four or five of them. You gotta worry about, you know, someone like him. When it comes to the New York Knicks, they have Brunson, right. And your small guard is very dominant. But, um, when you're talking about the overall impact, I think the Celtics themselves with Jason Tatum, with Brown, with the pedigree of, you know, Jrue, Holiday and White, that's been there. They've won, they've won Golds. You're talking about, you know, a better cast of just winning. So, you know, it would, it's going to be hard for Knicks to pull off this series, but it is doable. It's doable. But I'll, I'll edge, you know, Denver that if one of the two is going to win, it'd be more like Denver has a better chance than New York.
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Dan Patrick
We came up with the hall of Very Good. This was years ago, I think. I think it was because of Joe Johnson. We put him in the hall of Very Good. He's not a Hall of Famer. We put him in as a founding father. Mount Rushmore of Hall of Very Good. Not, it's not an insult, but like you could be up for hall of Very Good.
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Gilbert Arenas
Okay.
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Dan Patrick
Right.
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Gilbert Arenas
Okay.
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Dan Patrick
Do you accept the nomination of being in the hall of Very Good?
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Gilbert Arenas
Yeah, I accept the nomination of being an NBA player. Right. You know, you're talking about a small percentage of people who actually go out to play this game as a youth. And there's only very, very small percentage that's going to make that so, you know, Having a nomination of being very, very good. I like that.
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Dan Patrick
Okay. By the way, it's only one very. It's not very very. Just saying. Okay.
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Gilbert Arenas
I put so many berries on my bed.
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Dan Patrick
Okay. Some of the players we have in the hall of. Very Good. We have Latrell Freewell.
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Gilbert Arenas
Okay.
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Dan Patrick
Rip Hamilton.
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Gilbert Arenas
Okay.
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Dan Patrick
Let's see. Who else do we have on there? Paulie, Antoine James. Antoine Jameson.
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Gilbert Arenas
Okay.
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Dan Patrick
Penny Hardaway. Yes, very good. Should have been a Hall of Famer.
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Gilbert Arenas
He probably gets two varies.
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Dan Patrick
Give him two very. Who else do we have? Paul? How about Jamal Crawford? 20,000 points.
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Gilbert Arenas
Yes.
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Dan Patrick
Paula, very good.
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Gilbert Arenas
Stefan Marbury.
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Dan Patrick
Oh, okay. Marbury. Jason Williams.
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Gilbert Arenas
White Chocolate.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Gilbert Arenas
I'll give it to him. But he's not up there with the Mulberry when it comes to statistical.
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Dan Patrick
Okay.
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Gilbert Arenas
Because it's, you know, the hall of Fame is whole body of work, right? Yeah, yeah. Okay. So, I mean, he'd be. Jason Williams would be somewhere below, you know, someone like me.
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Dan Patrick
Okay. Like the hall of Very White. Then he would be in. In that.
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Gilbert Arenas
Oh, yeah. Listen. Guarding him and who he was as a player. Very, very good.
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Dan Patrick
Okay.
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Gilbert Arenas
You know, so it's, you know, the. The NBA career versus the body of work is two different things. But, you know, as a dangerous player on the court, he was very, very good.
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Dan Patrick
How about Cliff Robinson?
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Gilbert Arenas
I don't remember Clifford like that. I remember just growing up as a child, you know. You know, the Blazers, you know, so I don't remember, you know, the details of his career. You know, Lou Will, you can put in there.
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Dan Patrick
How about Baron Davis, hall of. Very good.
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Gilbert Arenas
Yeah, I can put their Baron Davis in there.
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Dan Patrick
Okay. Who is the best player you played against? Who's not in the hall of Fame?
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Gilbert Arenas
Well, I don't think Jamal is up yet, but I'll probably say, who hasn't is probably Stefan Marbury. Like, I'm still confused why he's not actually in the hall of Fame.
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Dan Patrick
He was a problem for you.
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Gilbert Arenas
Yeah, I think he has a. I mean, I think he has the best resume for someone who. Who hasn't. You know Chris Weber's in the hall of Fame, right?
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Gilbert Arenas
Okay.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Gilbert Arenas
You know, some of those guys, you know, some of those guys get in under the radar and you'd be like, wait, what?
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Dan Patrick
Jalen Rose.
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Gilbert Arenas
Yeah. General Rules is very good.
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Dan Patrick
Hall of. Very good, Paula.
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Gilbert Arenas
Very Good. Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
Jermaine O'Neal.
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Gilbert Arenas
Yeah. Oh, yes. Yeah. Oh, yes. Jermaine is not in the hall of Fame.
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Dan Patrick
I don't think so.
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Gilbert Arenas
Oh, then Jermaine. I'll put Jermaine number one. Oh, you know, guy. A guy who was like, the reason I'll put him in front of, like, somebody like Jamal Tinsley, a Jalen Rose type, is because he was a main player. He was the go to guy. He was a franchise player. So, you know, the franchise guy, the guy who had to carry, you know, the. The low. That's Jermaine O'Neal. He should be in the hall of Fame. He's. He's probably the best one that's not there.
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Dan Patrick
I can't put Jamal Tinsley in the hall of. Very good.
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Gilbert Arenas
No. I mean, no, he. He didn't have the NBA career to be there, but he was a really good player.
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Dan Patrick
Okay.
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Gilbert Arenas
Probably one of the unguardable guys during the. During the years where we trapped the basketball and picked up full court.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Gilbert Arenas
Was probably the only guy that it didn't work against.
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Dan Patrick
Really?
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Gilbert Arenas
Yeah. His composure during traps and his dribbling skills wasn't fast at all, wasn't quick at all. Never got rid of the ball. He just toyed with everyone during full court traps, and it was kind of embarrassing to the point, like, let's just bring it back. Like, he's. He's kind of. This is pointless.
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Dan Patrick
So once again, it's the hall of Very good. You're in. Congratulations. About a round of applause.
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Gilbert Arenas
Yeah, I appreciate it, guys. I'll take them. I'll take all the accolades I can get.
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Dan Patrick
Hey, but. But is your speech going to resemble Michael Jordan's at the hall of Fame when he made fun of everybody? No, no, but you're an agitator. You just told me you like to talk.
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Gilbert Arenas
But when you're Michael Jordan, you. You get to make fun of every year. You get to let everybody know how great you are when you are the top dandata. Of course.
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Dan Patrick
So you would have felt honored if he made fun of you.
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Gilbert Arenas
Yes. I'll be just like Charles Barkley. He called me an idiot.
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Dan Patrick
I'm honored. I'm glad your son's doing well and good luck with the documentary. And of course, congrats on the podcast.
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Gilbert Arenas
Oh, thank you. Appreciate it.
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Dan Patrick
Gilbert Arenas. He is Gill's arena podcast and the documentary as well. It's on Netflix, but he got to see it this morning. I love that dude. He's lived a life, you know, and. And we'll talk to you about it all with a smile on his face, like, just having a great time. Good dude, man. Like. But isn't Javaris Crittenden still in prison, Marvin?
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Gilbert Arenas
Yes, he is.
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Dan Patrick
That. That for something Separate.
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Gilbert Arenas
Correct. Yes.
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Dan Patrick
Yes, something.
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Gilbert Arenas
But I think this was the start of the downfall, though.
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Dan Patrick
Yes. If Gil knew what he knew about Javaris Crittenden afterwards, I don't think he would have brought those guns into the locker room because somebody wasn't playing. How about we take a break here? We'll come back with more of your phone calls as well. This is the Dan Patrick Show.
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Gilbert Arenas
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Dan Patrick
Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Hey, Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis. And together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the. The iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything, life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture, stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved, too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say. I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search Kovino and Rich wherever you get your podcast. And of course, on social media, that's Covino and Rich two weeks from tonight. Will our show be great or just very good? The hall of very good. Or will it be the hall of fame? The sports Emmys two weeks from tonight. Already nervous. I got a party bus for us. Doesn't mean we have to have a party on the party bus like we did last year. Last time we got nominated, all of a sudden big German goes, I shouldn't have put hard liquor on the bus. I said, yeah, you're right. You shouldn't have. When we come back after a win, that's one thing. But yeah, going down there and then telling everybody to sober up. So, you know, we get on stage if we win, and then all of a sudden we don't win. And then the ride back and everybody's sad. It may be 1 miller light per person. That's it. Yes. Marvin.
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Gilbert Arenas
What hurt the most is that we were like the second to last category.
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Dan Patrick
I know. Is that right?
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Gilbert Arenas
This was.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Gilbert Arenas
Like we're looking and we're like, oh, where's our category? Another page. Turn another page. Turn another page. Last page. Oh, breast. You know, best daily sports show.
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Dan Patrick
Oh, breast. Maybe that's what we should try to get in that category. That's why we've been losing. Yeah. We'd like to submit for Breast Sports Show. Right, Todd?
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Gilbert Arenas
Breast category.
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Dan Patrick
Thank you, Todd.
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Gilbert Arenas
Why not? No, I was gonna wear, like, a low cut thing. Why not?
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Dan Patrick
You're gonna show a little cleavage.
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Gilbert Arenas
Embrace the moment. Come on.
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Dan Patrick
All right. I like that. That's hot. All right, so final hour poll question. I know if I ask you, Seaton, what we were going with? Yeah. We kind of have, like seven hour one poll questions. Okay. So. All right. We're just keeping it at that. Let's see which team will advance? Knicks, Nuggets? Neither. Right now the Nuggets are at 45% of that vote, followed by neither at 41. No one really believes in the Knicks there. Rude. Okay, which do you prefer, your gut or analytics? 86% say gut. And then which leads to more wins? Your gut or analytics? 65% say gut. Those people are wrong. And then Aaron Gordon, hall of Fame. Very good or pretty good? 57% have them as a pretty good or. Carrie in Alabama. Hi, Kerry. What's on your mind today? Hey, hey, hey. All right. I am with Paulie. Aaron Gordon is very good.
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Gilbert Arenas
Okay, listen.
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Dan Patrick
He has the best dunk in the history. Carrie, how much coffee have you had today?
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Gilbert Arenas
I've had a lot.
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Dan Patrick
I'm very excited. Okay, okay, take a deep breath. Just. Just relax a little bit. Okay, here we go. Kerry in Alabama. Hi, Kerry. Hi. Hi. Okay, so, all right.
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Gilbert Arenas
You guys remember what he did with Stuffed Magic? And that dunk contest was the best.
- [25:20]
Dan Patrick
Dunk contest in the history of the NBA. But that's. That's an exhibition, and he didn't win the dunk contest. I have another point about that.
- [25:28]
Gilbert Arenas
I got two points, actually. My first point is Dwayne Wade.
- [25:33]
Dan Patrick
He. He gave the deciding votes to Zach.
- [25:36]
Gilbert Arenas
Levine because they were both Chicago Bulls at the time. That is the only reason Aaron Gordon didn't win that contest. Everybody knows he should have won. Everybody knows.
- [25:45]
Dan Patrick
Everybody's watching at home. Everybody knows there are a lot of guys who have won a dunk contest who aren't very good players. So that doesn't mean you're a great player because you won the dunk contest. But Aaron Gordon is a, is a good player.
- [26:00]
Gilbert Arenas
I think when he left Orlando and went to Denver, I think it did a lot for his career and getting the respect and showing the world he's a well rounded player. I think you get pigeonholed when you win the dunk contest. I think Donovan Mitchell even mentioned that that's why he didn't want to do it again.
- [26:15]
Dan Patrick
Do it again.
- [26:16]
Gilbert Arenas
But I mean, I think it really shows the world, like, look, Aaron Gordon's a really good player.
- [26:20]
Dan Patrick
He is, he's, he's in the hall of. Hall of Very good or pretty good. Thank you, Kerry.
- [26:25]
Gilbert Arenas
He can't be in both.
- [26:26]
Dan Patrick
Yeah. You say he's a really, really good player. Yeah, he's good. The hall of really good. Yeah, he's really good at times. He's really good. Hall of Fame is about greatness. It's about consistency. Yes.
- [26:40]
Gilbert Arenas
I love that we're taking the hall.
- [26:42]
Dan Patrick
Of Very Good seriously and as it should be. Yes. We're breaking ground on it this summer. I might have ruined Carrie's morning in Alabama. Let me see. O.J. in Austin. Hi, O.J. thanks for holding. What's on your mind today?
- [26:57]
Gilbert Arenas
Hey, Dan. Hey, dan, this is OJ. I hear people saying their height. I am 63255. So you guys were talking yesterday about load management and like the top players in this era right now. I am a big Jordan fan and I haven't really watched the the game since Michael Jordan left but AE Anthony Edwards has got me watching basketball again. Him and Shay are amazing. Now these days the NBA is like watching Charmin versus Angel soft. So until it gets a little bit.
- [27:33]
Dan Patrick
Tougher, I'll have to hold off.
- [27:36]
Gilbert Arenas
And Dan, I have a compliment for you, man. I have never since I've been listening to you, heard you raise your voice.
- [27:43]
Dan Patrick
Or have a voice inflection ever.
- [27:46]
Gilbert Arenas
You're amazing, man. I just wanted to say you're awesome.
- [27:48]
Dan Patrick
Thank you, O.J. thank you. Let me see Misty in Portland. Hi, Misty. Thank you. Dan Patrick show. Hey, Misty. Yes? Can you hear me? Yes, I can, Misty. Hello there. I would just like to wish the.
- [28:08]
Gilbert Arenas
Happiest of birthdays to my boyfriend Joe.
- [28:13]
Dan Patrick
Was he not at the house this morning? We don't live together. Well, that doesn't mean he didn't stay over.
- [28:23]
Gilbert Arenas
Well, he didn't last night.
- [28:25]
Dan Patrick
Okay. What about tonight?
- [28:29]
Gilbert Arenas
Oh, yeah.
- [28:32]
Dan Patrick
Okay. But you'll tell him later today, right?
- [28:37]
Gilbert Arenas
I'm sorry.
- [28:38]
Dan Patrick
You'll say happy birthday to him later? I will. But he loves your show.
- [28:43]
Gilbert Arenas
So I thought that this would be so much, you know, better to hear.
- [28:47]
Dan Patrick
It is. Is he. Is he listening now? Is he at work? I mean, if I'm going to wish him a happy birth. I'm sure he's listening now. And his name is Joe.
- [28:57]
Gilbert Arenas
It is.
- [28:58]
Dan Patrick
All right, we're ready tonight. Happy birthday, Jim. Okay.
- [29:11]
Gilbert Arenas
All right. Awesome.
- [29:13]
Dan Patrick
Thank you, Misty. Thank you, Misty. Yes, Todd? I like how he asked.
- [29:17]
Gilbert Arenas
Does he stay over today? Oh, yeah.
- [29:21]
Dan Patrick
Jimmy in Chicago. Hi, Jimmy. What's on your mind tonight then? My hot take question of the day is. Does Yao Ming belong in the hall of Fame? He played only seven. Seven seasons. I think his numbers were not that impressive. If Polly wants to double check on that. And I was also going to ask you if you. If you know, like. Are there any require actual requirements for the hall of Fame. If you know any particular of those? I don't know if they factor in off the court. The NFL is not supposed to for their hall of Fame. Baseball does. I don't know. I don't know if they do that with the NBA. Yeah, Paulie.
- [30:05]
Gilbert Arenas
I have Yao Ming already in the hall of Fame. He was a seven time All Star in seven seasons. Then he was injured. You get a lot of credit if your career is debilitated due to injury.
- [30:14]
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but there's also the PR aspect to this. That you get him in. You get an entire country in with you. Basketball is so big in China. Contributions to the game. Ambassador to the game. So I. I understand that. And I remember when Yao Ming got to Houston. And I went down and I spent time with Rudy Tomjonovich. And he was the head coach of the Rockets. And that's when you had Katino Mobley and Stevie France. Stevie Francis. And I said to Rudy Tomjanovich. They said, how are you going to get those guys to realize. That the ball needs to go through Yao Ming? And he said, that's my biggest challenge is they have to trust Yao Ming. Because Yao was a very good passer. Because you could see this Stevie Franchise and Contino Mobley. They didn't meet too many shots they didn't want to take. And I thought, if you guys are going to be good, it's got to go through him. And I was actually down there doing a interview with Steve Francis. And I remember telling him. Because he said, what do you think of Yao? I said, you know, his passing is what surprises me. He goes, really? I said, yes. I said, the ball should go through him. And the look he gave me was like. You're crazy. You don't know anything about basketball. Yeah, Paulie, I have one. This is old school, but I think it's in your wheelhouse. Okay.
- [31:38]
Gilbert Arenas
You think Draymond Green. I think everyone thinks Draymond Green is going to the hall of Fame based.
- [31:42]
Dan Patrick
Off being a warrior during their great run. Yeah.
- [31:44]
Gilbert Arenas
How about Bill Lambert and his run with the Pistons? He was also a four time all star. He led the league in rebounds once. The guy averaged like 17 a bunch of years.
- [31:54]
Dan Patrick
He averaged 13 rebounds. He would be better in today's game because Bill could shoot. He could shoot the three. Four straight all star appearances, two titles. He's. He's in the hall of Very good. He wasn't a good college player, but if you use the argument that you.
- [32:08]
Gilbert Arenas
Get bonus for winning like Draymond Green.
- [32:11]
Dan Patrick
Is, you would think that Bill Lambir.
- [32:13]
Gilbert Arenas
Would be in for his run with.
- [32:14]
Dan Patrick
If they won a third title. If they, if, if Bill Lambert was part of three title teams, then yeah, I could see that. What about AC Green? AC Green? Hall of Good. V. Good.
- [32:29]
Gilbert Arenas
Be good. Think maybe good.
- [32:31]
Dan Patrick
Just good. The. The hall of celibacy.
- [32:36]
Gilbert Arenas
Oh, he's first balance. He's the goat.
- [32:42]
Dan Patrick
Your hall of Fame, you don't get a bust. You get a chastity belt that you wear.
- [32:47]
Gilbert Arenas
Goat not getting at all times. One time all star, AC Green.
- [32:51]
Dan Patrick
Okay. Yes, Todd, you got a chastity belt.
- [32:54]
Gilbert Arenas
That was very good.
- [32:54]
Dan Patrick
Thank you, Todd.
- [32:55]
Gilbert Arenas
That needs to be said.
- [32:56]
Dan Patrick
Thank you.
- [32:57]
Gilbert Arenas
Very clever.
- [32:58]
Dan Patrick
Yes. Marvin.
- [32:59]
Gilbert Arenas
Yeah. This past year, Michael Cooper got into the hall of Fame. He was a part of all five of those Showtime Lakers championships. And so my prerequisite for the hall of Fame, when you see guys that get in, it's iconic players, iconic moments or iconic teams. So if you're a big part of any of those three, like if you met any of those criteria, I think you're in.
- [33:16]
Dan Patrick
But also Larry Bird said that Michael Cooper, I think was the best defender he went against. Now all of a sudden, you know, they rubber stamped you part of a winning team. He was selfless. And you birds acknowledging you with your defensive greatness. How about this Byron Scott? Byron Scott of the Lakers, Paul, does.
- [33:38]
Gilbert Arenas
He get the same treatment being a.
- [33:40]
Dan Patrick
Very good player for that Laker run? Michael Cooper, by the way, he only.
- [33:44]
Gilbert Arenas
Started 94 games in the hall of Fame.
- [33:46]
Dan Patrick
Yeah, that's got to be the lowest. Yeah.
- [33:50]
Gilbert Arenas
Wow.
- [33:51]
Dan Patrick
But if I said, what's the highlight you remember from Michael Cooper? It's not good. That's Dr. J. That's when Coop goes I'm going up. I'm coming back down. He's still going up. And let me get out of the way. Yeah, Marvin.
- [34:07]
Gilbert Arenas
Dr. J. Rocked the cradle at the three point line, basically.
- [34:12]
Dan Patrick
Okay. I, I've been, I've been caught up in Facebook videos and, and, and watching, and watching Dr. J. Aba Dr. J. Golly, he was so dynamic out on the break. They weren't stopping him. Maybe he's dunking on you. Finger roll on you. All right, we'll take a break. Last call. The, the last call for phone calls. What's in store tomorrow, what we learned they're staying sports history after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app. Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store tomorrow. And we continue the conversation of hall of Very good. It started with Aaron Gordon earlier this morning. Charlie in San Antonio. Hi, Charlie. Got a nominee for the hall of Very Good. Yes.
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Gilbert Arenas
Dan, how you doing? I just want to put Manu Ginobili's.
- [35:13]
Dan Patrick
Name in there, see what your thoughts are on that. He's a Hall of Famer. He's not a Hall of Very good. Manu Ginobili's hall of Famer. And we were also talking about other sports like Matt Ryan. Is he hall of Very good? Oh, man. Is Philip Rivers hall of Very Good. I feel like there might have to be a Hall of Great that doesn't include hall of Fame. Those guys are better than good. Those guys are better than good. They were great.
- [35:42]
Gilbert Arenas
They're very good.
- [35:45]
Dan Patrick
They're better than very good. Yeah. Paul, Matt Ryan has four Pro Bowls, one MVP, and no super bowl wins.
- [35:53]
Gilbert Arenas
That seems like an uphill battle for.
- [35:54]
Dan Patrick
The hall of Fame. I think he's going to get in. Member of the media, nice guy.
- [36:01]
Gilbert Arenas
Phil Rivers has like seven Pro Bowls.
- [36:03]
Dan Patrick
But no super bowl appearances and playoff record. Not good. Yeah.
- [36:08]
Gilbert Arenas
Marvin, what about guys like Roger Craig and Ricky Waters?
- [36:12]
Dan Patrick
Ricky Walters should be in the hall of Fame. His Philip Rivers team fired a coach that was 14 and 2. Not his fault. Not his fault. Not his fault. It's not your fault. It's not your fault. It's, it's not your, your fault, son. Yes. Todd, are there plaques that you could.
- [36:36]
Gilbert Arenas
Put in the lobby or the cafeteria or inside the elevator if they're not quite hall of Famers but you feel.
- [36:41]
Dan Patrick
Like they need to be recognized in some way? I will do that for you if that's what you want.
- [36:44]
Gilbert Arenas
One in the souvenir shop.
- [36:45]
Dan Patrick
I will do that. I'll give you a Hall of Very Good.
- [36:49]
Gilbert Arenas
Fair enough.
- [36:49]
Dan Patrick
All right. We'll have a ceremony here. If we don't win a sports Emmy, then we're in the hall of Very Good. That's it for eternity. Yes. It's like hell. It's sports broadcasting hell. Yes. Marvin.
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Gilbert Arenas
I think the hall of Very Good in the NFL is for guys like Eddie George that had maybe a good three to four year run, but they just weren't great all pros for the entire careers.
- [37:12]
Dan Patrick
Okay. Yeah, Paul.
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Gilbert Arenas
Yeah.
- [37:14]
Dan Patrick
Hall of Very Good.
- [37:15]
Gilbert Arenas
It. It does seem like quarterbacks don't necessarily need a Super bowl if you pile up the numbers.
- [37:20]
Dan Patrick
Cam Newton, hall of Very Good. Oh, man, we don't have enough time. I don't think he's a Hall of Famer. I think it's close though. He had a lot of rushing touchdowns. Not exactly what you want out of your quarterback, but he had a lot of rushing touchdowns. Let me see Bobby in San Antonio. Hi, Bobby. What's on your mind? Well, I think a lot of these players that could potentially be hall of.
- [37:51]
Gilbert Arenas
Famers get lost in the fold because.
- [37:55]
Dan Patrick
They, their position might be overstacked. Like for instance, a Brad Daugherty I.
- [38:02]
Gilbert Arenas
Think could easily be in the hall of Fame, but he's played in an.
- [38:06]
Dan Patrick
Era where Patrick Ewing, Hakeem David Robinson.
- [38:11]
Gilbert Arenas
Alonzo, all these other players are playing during his time.
- [38:15]
Dan Patrick
Or even like a Rasheed Wallace gets.
- [38:18]
Gilbert Arenas
Lost in the sack when he's playing in a power forward heavy era where.
- [38:22]
Dan Patrick
Like there's a Duncan the Whiskey kg. Yeah, but he wasn't even close to them. You know, she, she had a lot of talent, but he giveth and he taketh away. But thank you for the phone call there. Yeah, Brad Dougherty was a really, really good player. He's in the hall of Very Good. You know Mark Price. Mark Price, who was awesome, awesome. He's in the hall of Very Good. I think he's hall of Famer, but I don't think he's in. Yes, Marvin.
- [38:58]
Gilbert Arenas
Another guy on the NFL side of Hall. Very good. Only because there's so many great ones at this position. Tory Holt.
- [39:04]
Dan Patrick
We should get in the hole. Yes, Paulie. This day in sports history. 1915. Babe Ruth got his first major league home run rated.
- [39:13]
Gilbert Arenas
He also got the win as the pitcher.
- [39:15]
Dan Patrick
It was his pitching debut. The Yankees in 1946, first major league team to travel by plane. This is tough.
- [39:23]
Gilbert Arenas
1992, Anthony Young of the Mets started.
- [39:26]
Dan Patrick
A losing streak of 26 games as a starting pitcher. 1995 ESPN Classic debuted on cable TV. On this date I was in Chicago. 1998, I'm in Chicago. Rainy. Kerry Wood strikes out 20 Astros, his fifth career start. He allowed one hit, no walks in one of the most might be most dominating pitching performance I've ever seen. Hall of Very Good. Now he's actually hall of Good. I think Woody and prior the expectation levels were through the roof for those guys. Also on this day in 1954, Roger Bannister became the first person to run a sub 4 minute mile and he did so in Oxford. 359, 4/10. Let me see anything else that needs to be mentioned here? Joe in Washington. Hi Joe. What's on your mind? Hey guys. First time, long time. 59160 and earlier one of you were talking about the hall of Very Good roster and you mentioned Pages Toyakovich and had me thinking and I'm a very, very sad Sacramento Kings fan. Have been for a long time. But the early 2000s, you know that roster. Two of those guys are in the hall of Fame. Chris Weber and Vladivac if I'm not mistaken. But then you had Mike Bibby, Doug Christie, Bobby Jackson, he doturkaloo and you mentioned Pages so Yakovic. I would put all those guys in the hall of Very Good. Maybe you can change my mind. How that team didn't win the NBA.
- [41:11]
Gilbert Arenas
Championship is beyond me.
- [41:13]
Dan Patrick
Well, might have officiating to do with it maybe. But yeah, that Sacramento team was a lot of fun. And Paja is as good a shooter as ever. Ever played in the NBA. Todd, what'd you learn today?
- [41:26]
Gilbert Arenas
Kerry in Alabama, who was hopped on.
- [41:28]
Dan Patrick
A disturbing amount of caffeine and says.
- [41:29]
Gilbert Arenas
Aaron Gordon belongs in the hall of Very Good.
- [41:32]
Dan Patrick
What did I learn today?
- [41:33]
Gilbert Arenas
Gilbert arena says the best player ever.
- [41:34]
Dan Patrick
Went up against who's not in the hall of fame.
- [41:35]
Gilbert Arenas
Jermaine O'Neill, followed by Marbury and Jalen Rose by.
- [41:38]
Dan Patrick
Thanks to Gilbert Arenas, Doc Emmerich and you. We'll try to do better tomorrow. Thanks for joining us.
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Gilbert Arenas
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Dan Patrick
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Gilbert Arenas
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Dan Patrick
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Gilbert Arenas
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Dan Patrick
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Gilbert Arenas
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Dan Patrick
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Gilbert Arenas
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Dan Patrick
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Gilbert Arenas
I'm ready to fight. Oh, this is fighting words. Okay, I'll put the hammer back.
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Dan Patrick
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Gilbert Arenas
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Dan Patrick
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Gilbert Arenas
Makers in world history.
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Dan Patrick
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Gilbert Arenas
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Dan Patrick
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Gilbert Arenas
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Dan Patrick
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Gilbert Arenas
But when Roger Caron picked up a pen and paper, he went from an ex con to a literary darling from Campside Media and I heart podcasts. Listen to GoBoy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.