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It's the rage bait.
Dan Patrick
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to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Final hour in this Monday. More phone calls. Best and worst of the weekend. Todd's here. Dylan's here.
Todd
What was that?
Dan Patrick
I don't know.
Todd
Way to sell my presents.
Dan Patrick
I know. I just. I. You're just squirrely today. Like I'm used to Friday. Fritzi, when. When are you Doing another episode of the Todd cast.
Todd
I think post show tomorrow, we're gonna sit down and get it going.
Dan Patrick
Okay. And we. We have a couch in there. Dylan plays the role of therapist. You're going to be able to not only listen to, but watch this podcast, God in Therapy.
Todd
It's a whole visual element. There's gonna be, like, a bookshelf behind dealer where it looks like an actual, you know, psychiatrist or therapist.
Dylan
I'm going to be essentially Todd's Hannibal Lecter. That's what I'm going for.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Todd
Places the lotion in the basket or gets the hose again.
Dan Patrick
Marvin's in the front row. And Big day, Ray. Big day, Ray. Stepping in for Paulie, who's out today. Ray produces, among other things, the gambling podcast. Does a lot of the great research on the program, but he gets to see. Sit at the big boy table. Yes, Marv.
Marvin
It's weird because here you're the big boss man because you own everything, and this is your show. But Paulie feels like the principal, and when Paulie's not here, Fritzi is. I mean, it is a different level.
Todd
I was throwing paper airplanes last thing.
Dan Patrick
Yes, you do. There's a sense of relief, like it's recess for you.
Todd
I pulled the fire alarm. I was throwing little paper balls at each other.
Dylan
I like recess. Todd.
Ray
I got a spitball on the back of my neck from tod.
Dan Patrick
Stat of the day, brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the program. The women's PGA championship on NBC. And Peacock. Nelly Korda. That'll be coming up this next weekend on NBC. And Peacock, which is where you can see this program. Peacock. Download the app if you haven't done so. If you'd like to watch this program. Dylan with a Brendan Sorsby jersey. Not game used because it's Texas Tech. How much that cost you?
Dylan
80 bucks.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Dylan
Seemed like a worthwhile purchase. I'll get some mileage out of it.
Dan Patrick
Content.
Dylan
Exactly. It's all about content.
Dan Patrick
All about content. Poll question for the final hour in the two previous hours.
Dylan
Well, we're going to let this one hang in the ether for a bit, Dan, because I'm so far, not exactly pleased with the results. But who's the better band, Grateful dead or Aerosmith? 69% are saying Aerosmith. And what I think they do say 69% of people are dumb.
Dan Patrick
We spoke to Jay Billis before the show because Jay had some things going on. He's part of ESPN's draft coverage, and there's some topics that have Emerged. There's a report by ESPN's Pete Thammel that Dusty May is leaving the University of Michigan to take the Dallas Mavericks job and that Shams is reporting that Giannis is expected to be traded prior to the draft tomorrow night. I didn't get a chance to talk in specifics to Jay Billis about those. The Dusty May thing is just happening an hour ago and we do talk about Giannis a little bit here as well. So I talked to Jay and we started out talking about Darren Peterson. He's not the favorite to go to the Wizards. They have the number one pick, but he didn't work out for anybody, any other team. So I asked Jay to help me understand the logic of Darren Peterson.
Jay Billis
I don't know if there, there is a logical explanation for the public on that one. We've seen it in the past
Marvin
when,
Jay Billis
you know, it might be just to project that, hey, I'm the best player and, and I should be going number one. It is not going to deter any team from taking him. Like, nobody's going to go, hey, he didn't work out for us. We're not, that's not going to happen. I mean, if you recall, player from Rutgers last year, Ace Bailey did that and Utah took him to number five. So it's not, it's not like, it's not the usual thing, but it's not horribly unusual that, that this kind of thing would happen. And it's a little bit different. But, you know, like when John Elway, Eli Manning, others have tried to, quote, unquote, manipulate the draft in their favor, maybe people didn't like it at the time, but they looked back on it and, and thought, hey, maybe that was a smart thing to do. He's not trying to avoid anybody. It sounds more to me like he's projecting, like, look, I'm not going to work out for you anyway. There's no reason for me to kick the tires of the local restaurants. I think I'm the best player and, and whatever happens, happens.
Dan Patrick
How do you gauge ceiling and floor? Like, debance. To me, that still has, like, he's unfinished. But I loved his attitude. I mean, he played, he, he was there, played hard. Peterson, of course, had the creatine issue and can he hold up for 82 games if you can't hold up for 30? So I don't know if you look and you go, that guy to me could be. Have a higher ceiling than anybody else in the draft. Does somebody stand out? Well, there are a lot of players
Jay Billis
in this draft that stand out. And that's what. One of the things that makes this draft so compelling. Like, I don't. I don't know how you do it, Dan, and all your years, but, I mean, I don't have a list of the best drafts. Like, okay, this is the second best draft I've ever been a part of. Like, oh, three is kind of hard to turn away from with LeBron, Carmelo Bosch, Wade, all that stuff. But this draft is the deepest of quality talents that I can recall, and my memory is pretty good. But one of the best things about it is at the top, there are three players and arguably more that you could justify as the number one overall selection, you know, with. With Darren Peterson, AJ debons of byu, and Cameron Boozer of Duke, who was the national player of the year. And so Peterson's the most talented in my view. Devon look like. Looks like he was built in a lab to play in the NBA. And I don't think any of these guys are, you know, you'll miss on. It's just a question of what's best, you know, who's the best for you and what's best overall. And then Boozer, I think, is the best pure basketball player in this draft. But I've never been a part of a draft, you know, with espn, where I heard more people say about more players, like, it might be seven guys I've heard say he could wind up being the best player in this draft. I've never been a part of a draft where that's been said about as many guys in a single draft as this one. And I don't think it's going to go the way it's been slotted. I mean, I think we're going to see some surprises and they'll probably be some trades because this is the draft you want to be in.
Dan Patrick
Okay, give me the team that you think changes the draft.
Jay Billis
Changes the draft. I mean, you know, the. The real decisions are going to start probably at 4. I mean, the decisions up top are really important. And I do think this draft will probably be the same as any other. That will look back on this in five years and you'll. You'll say we should have done it this way. There's never been a draft. Like, I was. I was doing some stuff the other day. I just decided to take the 15 all NBA players this year and look back at where they were drafted. I mean, Shay Gilgis Alexander was drafted 11th in 2018 when he came out. And like, hands up all those during that draft that said, he's a future MVP. And you know, Brunson was taken 33rd. Jokic, first team multiple times, three time MVP was 41st in the draft. That means teams, a number of teams had two chances to take him and didn't do it. And so it's not an exact science, but you know, I think Chicago at number four. Everybody seems to think that, or most people seem to think that that's going to be Caleb Wilson of, of North Carolina. But then there's a parade of guards and whether, and it's kind of like who do you like best? Because it's hard to differentiate and say, well, this guy's clearly better than the other guy. You know, Mike L. Brown of, of Louisville and Braden Burries of Arizona. You know Keaton Wagler of Illinois who had 49 in a game this year. Nine freshmen this year that had 40 or more in a game. That's, that's never happened in my, in my lifetime.
Dan Patrick
And then you got a cup, junior, right.
Jay Billis
Who I left out who. A lot of people say he could wind up being the best player in the draft. First, first SEC player since Pete Maravich to lead the league at scoring and assists. I mean, it's like trying to guard a bowling ball coming down the alley at you. And he's, he's an amazing scorer. His defense was questionable, but he couldn't afford to foul out. You know, they had to keep him on the floor. And if I were him, I probably would have done the same thing. But he's tough as nails. He played through injury throughout the whole year, never tapped out. You know, there are a bunch of guys that, that you're, you don't have a lot of questions about the only. You know, some of the questions are like, there's this lingering thing in your mind about Peterson because of the cramping issue and, but it was solved by the end of the year. Like by the end, I think it was the last eight or nine games, whatever it was, he averaged 32 minutes a game. That, that was not an issue. And if anybody questions it, like go back and watch the BYU at Kansas game where he had 18 points in the first half. He was 6 of 8, had three steals. There was no question who the best player on the floor was. And the cramping thing started at the start of the second half and he didn't play in the second half. He played a few possess and then he came out and didn't come back in. One of the questions I asked of myself at the time, because there was there was not much information. We weren't being told much. And in the absence of information, people speculate, in my view. So I was thinking, all right, what, what player that is on his way to 30 plus, maybe 40 in a game of that magnitude is just going to tap out because he doesn't feel like. I just don't believe that. And I've sat down with the, with the young man, he's quiet. But there were none of these questions when he was in high school. Nobody questioned his competitiveness. And throughout the season, up until later on, after the cramping thing became an issue, it seemed like most people were going, Peterson's the number one guy, period. And one last thing, Dan. So if you do like, there's always that lingering thing in the back of your mind because we didn't see him the way we wanted to see him and we didn't see what we saw in high school and certainly the frequency of play. But so if you say, you know, I, you're not going to take him one, you know, kind of unreliable, what, but you'll take him at 2, like, to me, that doesn't make sense. Now, if you think is better and you're risk averse or whatever, that's fine, but at two, at three, I, I don't, I don't kind of get that logic.
Dan Patrick
Well, that's like NFL teams, they're going to take Brendan Sorsby off their board. But we understand why you might do this instead of, you know, something like this situation. We're talking to Jay Billis. He'll be on the call draft coverage tomorrow. They started 7 Eastern on the mothership in ABC. How much of an impact does Giannis's future have on this draft?
Jay Billis
Quite a bit. It's taken up a lot of oxygen in the NBA off season and a lot of discussion. And I don't mean to be dismissive of it, because I'm not, but there's a part of me that right now is saying, just tell me what it's done. Like, I, I get, I don't need the updates. When it's done, let me know, because this saga's been going on for a long time. But, you know, I don't blame, I don't blame anybody. That's the way these things go and everybody's got to get the best deal. But I don't, I don't know if it's going to happen before the draft takes place. Like, there was a, what I would call an artificial time limit put on it by ownership in Milwaukee, but it seems like it's going to get done. I just don't know when.
Dan Patrick
Have fun tomorrow night. Always great to catch up with you, Jay.
Jay Billis
It's never fun without you, Dan. That was my favorite draft. When you were going back and forth with David Starr.
Dan Patrick
Oh, man, it was awesome. You know, I didn't Stephen A. Smith tap out of that draft because he didn't understand what Portland was doing. And he said, I'm done. Like, he stopped talking because he was upset with what the Trailblazers were doing. At least that's what I remember. I'm like, you're paid to talk here. You're not a fan where I'm gonna turn off the tv. I just remember he kind of threw a fit because he didn't understand what the Blazers were doing.
Jay Billis
Yeah, we were. We were a little more out there back in the day. Like, I lost my mind a few times in different drafts, and I look back on it going, what was I upset over? It wasn't my team. Like, when. When the Knicks took Ronaldo Bachman, I think it was number 21. And right now, Rondo was still on the board. I lost my mind. I'm like, what are you doing? I mean, you put Ronaldo Bachmann in the second round, like, Rajan Rondo still on the board, and he's the. Like, Sebastian Telfair got drafted ahead of him. I go, rondo's better. And I'm like, just because I think that, why am I getting mad? So I've got to. I've got to soften things. But the best one was, I thought Bill Simmons. When Anthony Bennett was taken number one by Cleveland that year, I don't remember what year it was, but. But he. He, He. He lost his mind. It was fantastic. But, yeah, we're a little more circumspect right now.
Dan Patrick
I love the honest reaction, though, because not every draft pick is a great draft pick. And this, usually. This bothers me with the NFL coverage, it feels like, oh, that's. Oh, they got something. You know, they had needs, and they got that guy. There are times when you go, man, I. I know it's your biggest moment getting drafted, but they're just certain picks where you go, I don't get what you're doing. And I never understood Anthony Bennett. I. Jay, I remember watching him, and I didn't know who the best player on the floor was when I was watching unlv. And that's you. That's hard to do if you're going to be the number One pick and I'm watching you play and I don't realize you're supposed to be the best player.
Jay Billis
Yeah, it might not have been the best year in the draft. So, yeah, we weren't expecting that as a surprise. I mean, but what I was kind of talking about is, is, you know, like there was one year, I don't remember the year, but a player from BYU named Rafael Arugo got drafted, I think number eight. And I did not think he was an NBA player. And if that happened now, where I felt that way, I think I would have made the point calmly instead of making it the volume. I did like, you know, it's like almost like I was insulted. That was certainly the wrong way to do it.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I remember I was like, oladipo might be the best player. I remember arguing with Chris Maddox. I said Oladipo is a better player than Anthony Bennett. Not that he's that much better, but I know that he's better than him. But that's the, I love the honest reaction, not quite Bill Simmons reaction, but still, it's pretty entertaining. All right, great to talk to you, bud. Have fun to be with you, bro. Thank you. That's Jay Billis earlier this morning. Once again we did not bring up Giannis is going to be traded according to Shams prior to the draft. And also Dusty May is leaving Michigan to coach the Dallas Mavericks. We'll take a break. More of your phone calls coming up on this Monday. Best and worse to the weekend. We're back after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show. Weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
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Dan Patrick
NBA commissioner Adam Silver will be on the program tomorrow. Paulie will be back as well. The Cape Verd against Uruguay. You had both starting goalies who were 40 or older. I don't know if that's the norm here that you want that experience there, but over 40 years of age, it was fun. It's fun to watch that. All right, more phone calls. 8773 DP Show Trip in Vegas hi Trip. Best and worst of the weekend.
Caller/Listener
Hey, good morning, DP. Always good to speak with y'. All. I got two bests. And then a question for you. Keith Mitchell, 4129. Just shooting a 29 at a US Open course. Hasn't been done that many times. I think seven. And then Wyndham Clark may have won the tournament. Finished the tournament on Sunday, but I think he won it on Saturday. And then my question for you is this. Has Dylan's silly notion of this Grateful Dead, has that overtaken Todd's silly notion of driving slow in the fast?
Dan Patrick
No, because I don't know if people are spirited about the Grateful Dead Aerosmith debate as they are the person who's in the fast lane, who won't move to the middle lane just out of principle that you're going over the speed limit, that when it feels like it's home to everybody. Yes, Dylan.
Dylan
So I was not out here for that debate when it initially happened. But I am on Todd's side on that. I think if you're. If I'm going 80, 85 or something in the left lane and some guy in an Infinity comes up behind me and starts flicking his lights and stuff, I'm not moving.
Dan Patrick
That's really specific.
Dylan
It's. There's like three types of cars. It usually is.
Dan Patrick
And Todd wasn't going 85.
Todd
I was going faster than I should be according to the speed limit. And I guess it's not fast enough. 77 isn't fast enough. I guess I got to move over through this person.
Dylan
You can tell intent, too. You can. If someone comes up behind you, you can tell like they're, you know, they're not.
Dan Patrick
Couldn't we have this discussion after the show? Like, I don't. I don't.
Dylan
I didn't bring it up. Tripp did.
Dan Patrick
I know, but then you jumped in to defend Todd.
Dylan
Yeah, because I agree with Todd. We've all been there. When that guy comes up behind you and you're like, I'm not moving.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Todd
Gotta take a stand sometimes.
Dan Patrick
Go around me, Frank, in your Infinity. Wait, so what are the cars that are gonna come up on you that are going 80 miles an hour?
Dylan
An Infiniti, a black 3 Series BMW, anything with a spoiler?
Dan Patrick
Pickup truck.
Dylan
A pickup truck. Yeah. So we'll call it four. That's the Mount Rushmore of cars that are gonna come up behind you without a real emergency and flash their lights at you when you're going 85. Maybe even 90 then.
Dan Patrick
Yes, Marvin.
Marvin
Rust colored Honda Civics.
Dylan
The spoiler.
Jay Billis
Yep.
Dan Patrick
And some tricked out exhaust system.
Dylan
Yeah. No muffler. That's what doing that popping sound.
Dan Patrick
Fresh in Milwaukee. Hi, Fresh. What do you have for me today?
Caller/Listener
What's up, DP And Danette. Happy Monday. I got a quick four names for you and a question for you. Dp. Muhammad Ali. Walter Payton. Kobe Bryant, Bill Russell. This is my list of athletes who have passed away. My question to you is, who is on your Mount Rushmore of athletes that have passed away?
Dan Patrick
I haven't ever given this any thought. Fresh. I'll go with your list here. I. I've talked about death a little too much today with my dad, with Chris Fowler's father. Fresh off Father's Day, so. But thank you. Fresh. Just in case that comes up. Yes, Marvin, Your favorite four living athletes.
Marvin
Sorry about earlier.
Dan Patrick
That's. That. That is heavy lifting, though. When you go, let me talk about who's dead. Ali and Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron. Yeah, I love Hank Aaron. Ken in Ohio. Hi, Ken. What do you have for me today?
Caller/Listener
Good morning, dan. Dan. It's 5, 10, 1 63.
Dan Patrick
Soft, soft.
Caller/Listener
Hey. My worst of the weekend was three years part of the DDC club, God rest his soul. My best, which is the best ever, Mount Rushmore, whatever you want to call it. My son from Richmond, Virginia and I met in Dallas, flew on to Seattle and took part in the men's game on Friday. Best experience. Best ever, ever. And they won, which you put a big cherry on top. Just want to share that. Had a blast.
Dan Patrick
Well, thank you. Thank you for sharing. Yeah, Seattle knows how to welcome in soccer, but I don't. I mean, you know, you got. How many seats are available at some of these venues? Getting into these venues, Seattle. What's the number that Seattle has looking right now?
Ray
My first thought is I feel like people are having a hard time getting to these games. Searching Seattle Stadium.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Ray
Nothing really pops up.
Dan Patrick
Oh, well.
Ray
Cause it's. What's the real stadium name?
Todd
Lumen Field.
Ray
They're looking up Seattle Stadium because that's what they saw on the broadcast. They can't find it.
Dan Patrick
Where is this Seattle Stadium?
Dylan
It don't exist.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I saw this. Where Jeffrey Simmons got $105 million from the Titans. You start to think about the importance of defensive tackles, because as I've said before, give me a great defensive tackle. I don't necessarily have to have a great edge rusher. I want to know my guy. Shortest distance to the quarterback. He's going to be able to disrupt everything. Simmons gets paid. Dexter Lawrence, traded from the Giants to the Bengals for the 10th overall pick. Quinn. And Williams traded from the jets to the Cowboys for a first round pick. Leonard Williams with Seattle. Let's look at the last six super bowl champions. Seattle had Leonard Williams. The Eagles had Jalen Carter and Milton Williams. Chiefs, Chris Jones. Chris Jones again, Rams. Aaron Donald. And the Bucks had Vita Vea. You gotta have one, and if you got two, like the Eagles do, man, gotta have that defensive tackle. Everybody focus. Like Max Crosby, you know, Miles Garrett, like, okay, yes, those are wonderful players, but that guy coming up the middle, he disrupts everything. Yeah, Dylan.
Dylan
Yeah. I mean, I think about, like, what was it? The 03 Bucks team a lot with Warren Sapp. I had Simeon Rice at defensive end, but Warren Sapp was really doing the wrecking.
Marvin
And yes, Marvin is the last maybe all world the end. Maybe the combination of DeMarcus Ware and von Miller with the Broncos during that super bowl run. Where they were a first team all pro caliber type of player. On the, on the edge.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Marvin
It led him to a Super Bowl.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. Just ask Cam Newton. They were in the backfield as much as he was. People still talk about that fumble and that Cam didn't dive on it. And I'm. I don't know if that led to the loss, but it was kind of emblematic of, yeah, maybe, maybe I'll live to see another day than try to dive for that. That fumble. But that was a big deal. Yeah. Mark.
Marvin
Even going back to the Eagle super bowl over the Patriots. Brandon Graham with the big sack in the big force fumble on Tom Brady to end that game.
Dan Patrick
But didn't Denver have Malik Jackson in the middle? Defensive tackle?
Marvin
Yup.
Dan Patrick
And he got paid after that, too. He got paid $100 million. You gotta have that guy in the middle. Yeah. But those guys, it's hard to run away from. Like you're gonna be running into one of those edge rushers. If you do your job up the middle, then they have to pick a side to go to. But you're going to disrupt the running game. You're probably going to get a double team with the center and the guard. And that's why Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald's up there among the greatest defensive players of all time, in my opinion. It wasn't about sacks. It was just about. We don't have an answer for that guy. John Randall is another one of those guys. Yes. Marvin.
Caller/Listener
Yeah.
Marvin
Even going back to the 90s where you had guys like Gilbert Brown.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Marvin
Let me just clog the middle up. Ted Washington, even. Was that Cortez Kennedy?
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Marvin
And who's my man? Vince Wilforth.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Marvin
With those early Patriots dynasties, you know, it just clogged the middle up.
Dan Patrick
Yes, Dylan.
Dylan
And you look at the Cowboys now to that Quinn and Williams acquisition has been paying dividends so far, even after losing Micah Parsons. It's like they're, you know, that part of the field has been pretty good.
Dan Patrick
And oh, by the way, Parsons still hurt. Michael Parsons had not been cleared yet. Now, I know I criticized Jerry Jones, but I criticized Jerry Jones because he could have signed Micah Parsons a lot sooner than when he was going to have to. And they could have saved a lot of money there. But now you got this with George Pickens. And I said at the time when they franchised him, I said that he's not going to show up. Like, this won't end well. I mean, Pickens played. You're basically getting him. And you said, all right, prove Your worth here. And George Pickens did last year, he played really well. And he's probably saying, wait a minute, I did everything you wanted me to do and now you're going to franchise me? Yeah, but when you get almost 1500 yards, nine touchdowns, that's big boy stuff. Like now would I want to pay him long term? Probably not unless I got a user friendly deal. But I'm not getting that with George Pickens because he's going to rightfully say, look, I deserve the money that these other guys are getting. Yes. Dylan.
Dylan
Yeah, if you were to look at just his numbers and take the name George Pickens out of the equation, like after that season last year, anyone else is getting signed up to a contract and they're still like, well, play under the franchise tag because we don't know if three years from now this is still going to be a favorable relationship.
Dan Patrick
But I don't know where I would put, put Pickens because JSN is getting 42 million, Ray.
Ray
That's correct, 42 million. Jamar Chase, 40 million. And then Drake London just got 35 a year.
Dan Patrick
See, I didn't get the Drake London thing. I thought he was going to be a star, but he had kind of a slow burn there. I don't know, like Pitts and London, you know, I kept, I thought they were going to be unbelievable players. But do you have numbers for Drake London? Yeah.
Ray
Drake London had a pretty good year in 20, 24, 1200 yards last year he played 12 games, had just under a thousand yards and seven touchdowns.
Dan Patrick
Okay. All right. I don't know if that puts him in a top five category though, but I know. Next man up. Yeah.
Marvin
Marv, do you think that you think about the ceiling? Because those guys, Bijan, was that Kyle Pitts, Drake London, they're all Oprah, all pro caliber type of players, but they just haven't put it all together yet. Which makes them easily the most frustrating team in the NFL last season.
Dan Patrick
I know, but they're not set at quarterback. I mean, even now they're not set. You get rid of Kirk Cousins, you're not set. Pennigs. I don't know how healthy he's going to be. Is he going to beat out Tua? Yeah.
Dylan
Ray.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Ray
So this is kind of the risk you take with signing these guys early. So the Lions got amon ra for 30 million a year, which looks like a steal now. But then The Steelers have DK Metcalf for 33 million, which looks like a big overpay at this point.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I thought that was an overpay from the beginning. Iuk. I thought that was an overpay as well. And that's a mess with Iuk.
Dylan
That hasn't aged any better.
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Dan Patrick
They're giving him $30 million. Not good. But, you know, can I give Pickens 37, 38 million a year? What am I giving CD Lamb, then? I got Dak in. Lamb's making. How much? 34.
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Ray.
Ray
34.
Jay Billis
Right now.
Ray
If we gave Pickens 38, he'd be the third highest paid receiver in football.
Jay Billis
Yeah.
Dan Patrick
I can't do that. I can't. I can't. He's not Jamar Chase. He's not Justin Jefferson. He's a. He's a really talented.
Advertiser/Announcer
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Dan Patrick
Pittsburgh gave up on him, so I always have to have that in the back of my mind, unfortunately. Yeah, Dylan.
Ray
Yeah.
Dylan
But I feel like it makes it seem easier to pay him after paying Drake London 35 million year. I mean, Drake London's good, but if you want to just again argue what you've done for me recently, Pickens has. I would point to that and be like, you're not going to give me that.
Dan Patrick
But this was Mike Tomlin giving up on him.
Dylan
Yeah.
Dan Patrick
So it's. And they need receivers in Pittsburgh. Yes.
Marvin
Marvin, you took the words right out of my mouth. They need. Pittsburgh has had more great, talented wide receivers than anybody else in the past maybe 15 years that hasn't panned out to where they probably should have been. I thought Chase Claypool was going to be Randy Moss 2.0. Was that my man? Washington Marcavius.
Dan Patrick
Dante Johnson. Martavis Bryant. Yeah. Antonio Brown.
Marvin
Antonio Brown for a six year stretch, he was great.
Dan Patrick
How about Juju Smith Schuster Jr. III.
Marvin
He was better on TikTok than he was on the field.
Dan Patrick
David in Ohio. Hi, David.
Caller/Listener
Hey, what's up, Dan? Got a Best of the weekend here for you. Wyndham park became the first wire to wire U.S. open champion since Martin Kamer in 2014. Turns out. Kramer. Thank you. Turns out when you check into the Wyndham, checkout time isn't until Sunday night. Checked in on Thursday, grabbed the lead and never checked out till Sunday. Thank you.
Dan Patrick
All right. Okay. Checked into a Wyndham hotel. All right. I'm gonna give him credit for that. Todd,
Todd
I was gonna. I like you. Corrected the pronunciation. And he said it again. Kimer. Yeah, right. Kmer.
Dan Patrick
Were you gonna add anything?
Todd
That's what I was gonna add just now. I got a kick out of David Ohio. It's Kimer. And he said yeah, kmer.
Dan Patrick
But you didn't hear the Wyndham Hotel.
Todd
I heard the Wyndham joke. I didn't think it was Blueboard.
Dan Patrick
Mike in la. Hi, Mike. What do you have for me today?
Caller/Listener
Hey, Dan. Thank you, buddy. Best and worst. The best was finally senior cameo appearance on Triple D with Guy Fieri. I'm a big fan of that show. You may have had the shortest cameo appearance on the show in history of what? The celebrities he had on. And do you recall what you ate?
Dan Patrick
It was Greek food. I haven't seen the episode, but I didn't know it's the shortest cameo on Diners Drive Ins and Dives. I set the record for the least amount of screen time. Yes. Yes, Dylan did.
Dylan
They cut out a lot of stuff.
Dan Patrick
I didn't see it. I. I saw it.
Dylan
It actually came on the other day. I gave it a peek. It was. It was good.
Dan Patrick
I.
Ray
You.
Dylan
I actually am familiar with the place that you ate at. It's a solid Greek spot. But, yeah, it was rather brief, now that you mentioned it.
Kalpen (Kal Penn)
Really?
Marvin
Yeah, it was. I saw it also.
Dylan
I don't know if you're a little too hot for tv, Dan, but guys
Marvin
were in the parking lot for a hot minute.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. Okay. Wow.
Dylan
Did he get to go for a ride in the Triple D car?
Dan Patrick
No, I wanted to. I wanted to drive it, but we were in the parking lot by his Camaro. And he shot, like, three shows that day in the area. Like, he's a machine. But I gotta text him. I'm now pissed off that he cut my screen time here.
Dylan
Well, that might not be Gee's fault. Maybe it's the network.
Dan Patrick
I would think that he would have final say.
Dylan
Really?
Dan Patrick
Yeah. Director's cut.
Dylan
Well, it wasn't like. It was like you came in and said, hi.
Caller/Listener
Bye.
Dan Patrick
You know, maybe I wasn't very good in that episode. And then maybe they kind of spared me. I mean, there's. There's that. There's that chance that I wasn't good. And they're like, he might be embarrassing himself.
Dylan
There's no chance of that.
Dan Patrick
No, no, I think there's a real chance. Because I did come home and my wife goes, how was it? I go, I think I tried too hard. I think I tried too hard.
Dylan
Oh, really?
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I think so. I think so. But all of a sudden, Guy Fieri thinks he's Spielberg, you know? Yeah. My wife wants to go see that new movie. What is it? Departure? That Spielberg movie?
Dylan
Yeah, it looks good, but it's got,
Dan Patrick
like, aliens in it. Is it one word? What's it? Anybody know?
Dylan
It's something day, I think.
Dan Patrick
Oh, departure disclosure day. Disclosure day. Okay.
Author (possibly Veronica Roth or a guest)
All right.
Dylan
But if you're curious, Dan, a departure day is a specific date when a journey begins or when a traveler leaves a hotel, cruise ship or vacation destination.
Dan Patrick
Thank you, Dylan. Last Call for Phone Calls what we learned what I think Emily Blunt is
Todd
like an extra in that, right? She's got like a brief kind of.
Dan Patrick
She has a big role in that cameo. She has a big role in that last call for Phone Calls what we learn what's in store tomorrow after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live Eczema is
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Hey everyone, it's Cal Penn, host of Earsay, the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. This week on the PODC, I'm sitting down with Divergent author Veronica Roth to talk about her sprawling new novel, Seek the Traitor's Son. It's a sci fi fantasy epic about two protagonists on opposite sides of a war and a prophecy neither of them wanted.
Author (possibly Veronica Roth or a guest)
My first book was Divergent and when that came out, like, because it was so popular, I think it attracted like, mostly positivity, but the negativity I sucked in like a sponge. And I think it was like, critiques of things I liked when I was like, you know, I was 23 and I wrote this book and it had all my, like, dorky little cheesy or maybe unrealistic loves in it. And I started to feel a lot of shame about those things. And so for the rest of my career, I steered away from those little things that like, make you feel pleasure when you read. But I also was like, saying no to these parts of myself that I then was like, screw it. Yeah, so that's this book.
Kalpen (Kal Penn)
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Dan Patrick
Why is it always chaos when we link up? Because nobody plans anything, bro. Good thing the Rogue's ready like that for real.
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Dan Patrick
NBA commissioner Adam Silver will join us on the eve of the draft. Paul Skeens is joining us, Todd?
Todd
Yeah, he is. On Wednesday. Adam Silver tomorrow. Paul Skeens Wednesday. Let's go.
Dan Patrick
Okay. How's Paul Skeens doing?
Todd
I think he's doing all right. He's pretty good pitcher, last I heard. I think he's considered the ace of the Pittsburgh Pirates.
Dylan
Not getting a lot of run support though.
Dan Patrick
No. Yeah, I know he's not going to get that.
Todd
I don't get a lot of support here either. I don't complain about it.
Dan Patrick
I look forward to the Todd cast. Tuesday new episode, correct?
Todd
Yes. We had technical issues for about several months and it's finally together.
Dylan
It was a PR move, Dan, but we've got a lot. We've got about a month worth of stuff rattling around in Todd's brain. That's locked and loaded.
Dan Patrick
Once again, recapping Dusty May leaving Michigan to head be the head coach of the Dallas Mavericks. And according to Shams Giannis, expected to be traded before tomorrow night. NBA draft. Joe in Iowa. Hi, Joe. What do you have for me today?
Caller/Listener
Hey, Dan, I just was listening to your show. I love your guys show, but 6 foot 240. Isn't it kind of weird though, like how like everybody turned on Wyndham and everything.
Dylan
But then I started thinking about it
Caller/Listener
and I'm like, you know, if he didn't have a name that sounded like so British, you know, I mean, at Shinnecock, wouldn't the perfect nickname be Wendy?
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but I mean, once again, you may not like Windham Clark. You made it. May have been rooting for a closer tournament. You may have been rooting for Scottie Scheffler. Windham Clark had a couple of moments off the course. People have problems with that. He did win the US Open at LA Country Club. He played great. Like you have to at least admire what you see because that was pretty impressive to go wire to wire. And I didn't think he played great. I just thought he was able to scramble and other guys didn't make pots. Give him credit. Wire to wire. And when you're scrambling at a 66% chance, I mean that's really high stuff there. Everybody else was around 35%. Yes. Dylan.
Dylan
Yeah. That final putt he had on 18 2, that was far from a giv. Gimme two putt. Like, I think it was like over 25% of putts from that distance on that hole were three putts. So like, yeah, he could have very easily bogey that and we're going to a playoff.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. But he said, look, I'm a great lag putter. And he did exactly that. Rhonda in Texas. Hi, Rhonda. Welcome back.
Caller/Listener
Thank you. Dan. For the sake of time, I just want to say the best of the first day after the weekend so far is your show today with you and the Danette and great, great job today, Ray. Thank you.
Dan Patrick
Oh, how about that?
Ray
Thank you very much. I sent her $40.
Dan Patrick
How about, how about round of applause for big day, Ray.
Todd
That's the Way to step up.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Todd
Could do it.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Dylan
Congratulations, Ray.
Dan Patrick
This day in sports history. I'll do it because Paulie normally does it, but I'll do it. You cannot be serious. John McEnroe. He was playing Tim Gullickson at Wimbledon, by the way. Tim? Was it Tim and Tom or was it Tom Gullickson? One of the Gullickson brothers played Tim
Todd
Gullickson in that match.
Dan Patrick
Are you sure?
Todd
I'm positive because it was one of my scoreboards. Tim Gullickson, he goes, you can't be serious. You cannot be serious.
Dan Patrick
Okay, if it's Tom Gullickson pitched for the Reds.
Todd
Oh, maybe that was Bill Gullickson.
Dan Patrick
You get a pie to the face if it's Tom Gullickson.
Todd
My notes suggested Tim Gullison.
Dan Patrick
No, no, I'm just saying.
Caller/Listener
Okay.
Dan Patrick
And also, when Travis Kelsey gets married to Taylor Swift, you get a wedding cake in the face.
Todd
That's a lot of layers. Wedding cakes.
Dan Patrick
Is it Tim or Tom, Ray?
Ray
It's Tim.
Dan Patrick
Okay, that's close.
Todd
Goodness.
Dan Patrick
1986. The hand of God. Goal. That was Diego Maradona.
Dylan
Wait, wait, I think it was Tom. I think it was.
Ray
Tim notably defeated John
Dylan
the cannot. The you cannot be serious thing. That was Tom Gullickson, I believe.
Todd
You got to be kidding. You cannot be serious. My notes said Tim Gullik. This state in history website said Tim Gullikson.
Dan Patrick
I had Tom Gullickson.
Dylan
His moment came in a first round match against fellow American Tom Gullickson.
Dan Patrick
Oh, Tom.
Betting/Gambling Announcer
What?
Dylan
Sorry, Todd, but I have evidence that
Todd
says Tim Galaxy from a different website.
Ray
I think I'm reading the same thing you are, Todd.
Todd
So what makes one right, one wrong?
Dan Patrick
Why don't we call McEnroe?
Dylan
Mine's from Reuters.
Dan Patrick
Okay, I have. I have Tom Gullickson.
Todd
It's a difference in a vowel. It's very close in the face over there. Different sites say different things.
Dan Patrick
The 76ers in 2017 with the first pick select Markel faults. Todd, What'd you learn today?
Todd
I learned about the Gullickson thing, but J. Villas's favorite sporting event outside the tournament. Final four of the Ryder Cup.
Dan Patrick
Dylan.
Dylan
Aerosmith stinks.
Dan Patrick
Marvin.
Marvin
Will Ferrell's coming to the man cave
Dan Patrick
in a couple of weeks. Ray.
Ray
Defensive tackles are getting paid.
Dan Patrick
What did I learn?
Todd
Jay Bills considers Carlos Boother to be the best pure player in this draft.
Dan Patrick
Our pleasure to serve you. Thanks for joining us for Fritzi, Dylan, Marvin and Ray, I'm Dan Patrick. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
Marvin
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This episode of The Dan Patrick Show dives deep into the upcoming NBA Draft with ESPN’s Jay Bilas, debates elite NFL defensive tackles and offseason moves, and shares plenty of the show’s signature banter and calls from fans. The crew also reflects on sports “Mount Rushmores,” draft busts, and notable moments from the weekend in sports. Throughout, Dan and the Danettes mix in humor, personal anecdotes, and spirited debates about everything from pro athlete contracts to the Grateful Dead vs. Aerosmith.
A must-listen for fans invested in the NBA Draft, NFL team-building, and the art of sports radio banter.