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Todd Fritz
Yeah, we got up there right now. Do you agree with Rob Manfred's decision? 61% say yes.
Nick Wright
They do spring in Johnny Bench, the Hall of Famer. Johnny, great to see you again. Let me ask you the question. Do you agree with what the commissioner did yesterday?
Marvin
I do. I just think. I think he's done more work than you can imagine to try to figure this out. I think it had to be agreed upon by the hall of Fame, though. I think that was a question mark that had to be done. Jane is the person that's basically, you know, wants the sanctification of the hall of Fame and that it hopefully all members of the hall of Fame, although we know there's been question marks about whether it be PEDs or whether it be past history or people that have been elected to the hall of Fame. But for the commissioner, I think he, I know personally that I've talked to him. I know there's others that have talked to him. I know that he's trying to get the, the temperature of what it was. I think the temperature was mixed. I think, I think like the voting is 61%. I think the percentages were one way or the other with some hall of Famers. Do you take a poll of the hall of Famers? Do you take a poll of the writers? Do you take a poll of just the Danettes? And I, I think you're going to wind. Well, I mean, there are, there are fans and they, they understand the, the, what's happened with Pete and with the Black Sox scandals. I mean, the one person, I mean, as you may, as you know, Ted Williams was a staunch supporter of Shoeless Joe Jackson. And they keep saying, well, there was no evidence against it and he had three something or 400. So I guess the feel is all I can say is it is a perfect time for this thing to come out because right now, as we prepare for the day, I am not in Cincinnati, but they are honoring Pete at the stadium. There will be 42,000 people coming out and maybe more now that this announcement has been done. But for the Rose family, I'm Extremely happy for them. That. That it's all somewhat behind us.
Nick Wright
Why wait until Pete dies?
Marvin
Well, that's. I think that there were. There was some concern that it would. He wanted to get in the game of baseball as far as what has been talked about. He wanted to still be a manager or something like that. I think that created some problems, the fact that whether somebody would actually hire him at the. At this point or what position he would be in. And I think there was still. Okay, you know, we still have to have a certain caution here. We got to put up some yellow flags and in most cases, a lot of red flags and make sure that none of this happens. I. I really believe it was a push by so many people. I think the commissioners ruled on it twice. I know, but GMI Bud Seely ruled on it two or three times, and the consensus was that he was not going to. He was permanently banned. And so I think there's. They're cutting hairs a little bit on whether now that he's deceased now it's okay.
Nick Wright
You probably know this better than anybody. How do you think Pete would react today if he were alive?
Marvin
About damn time. What. What took him so long? About damn. No, I. I think he wanted to. He wanted to be voted on. I think he felt like he never had that opportunity and everything else. And I think that was his one. One thing. I think he always believed that had he been on the ballot that he would have been voted into the hall of Fame. Now, what the. What the hall of Fame has not done, I think, is make a space for Pete in the Hall. And, you know, we. We honor different groups of baseball players. We honor catchers, we honor them. We honor the heroes and what is baseball and legends and everything else. I think there's a perfect spot for the hall of Fame to. In so many ways, and I think you'll see it in Cincinnati on the board today. I think they'll highlight all the things and the person that he was 145 pounds. He was not drafted. He had to be. He had to be. Had to add a scout, which was an uncle, to give him a tryout. Then he winds up being an All Star at five different positions. Then he's, you know, he wins the MVP of the World Series. These are all things that you can honor him with and. And praise him for. And I think I heard Mike Schmidt talking about the fact that. And, And. And the other players on MLB talking about the fact that they were. They wanted to be like Pete. They wanted to play like Pete. They Wanted to hit first, slide. They wanted to do all things. He was. He was a personification. Personification of hustle and attitude and love for the game of baseball. And the rules are the rules. But for Pete, he. I think he should be honored at the hall of Fame just with video. But you also tell the story of why and while. Why this happened and what the ramifications are.
Nick Wright
I think the immediate reaction from a lot of people was, Pete's going to get into the hall of Fame. And I'd caution my audience to say they're not going to vote on this till December of 2027. And there's other guys on that ballot like Steve Garvey and Louis Tion and, you know, some really good players. Shoeless Joe Jackson's going to be on there as well. So it's not a foregone conclusion Pete gets in or even gets on the ballot. But, you know, it's going to be a process here. And people should.
Marvin
We can. I, I think we can assume that his name will be there. I think they. There's going to be the need for that to happen. But I think there's, you know, there's, you know, there's got, you know, they've been on. Some of these guys have been on the ballot for 20 years. I mean, you know, they, they keep thinking or they'll think and, you know, famous words of Frank Robinson and Bob Feller, and this isn't for the good, this is for the great. And so. And that is exactly the way it was framed. And so here, here we are at this point saying, okay, you know, we know Pete Rose. Great, Good Gosh, he's 4,256 hits, you know, and, you know, all the teams that he helped in all the World Series, we know it's there, but I think that would be the ultimate honor. But again, you're okay. We're. We're going to take 12 or 16 guys, we're going to take four owners, going to take four media, and we're going to take eight players, and we're going to have to get 12 votes. And, you know, Marvin Miller didn't make it in forever because the owners were never going to vote for him because they felt like during the drug situation, he could have controlled that better. And yet he had to allow players to get off of the drugs before they could test them. And that's why it took long. That. And you could also say that Sosa and The Peds and McGuire save the game of baseball. All of these things are suppositions all these things are not proven, but all these things are true. And so now you got to get 12 guys to go to 16 guys to go into a room, and you got to have 12 yeses talking to.
Nick Wright
Johnny Bench, the Hall of Famer. Do you think Pete bet as a baseball player on. On baseball?
Marvin
I don't have that knowledge. I'm. For me to say yes, I think that that would be a little. I can't say for sure because I don't have any evidence of that.
Nick Wright
Yeah, I just maintain. And once again, Pete and I shared a bookie growing up. When Pete was Pete Rose, you know, I went through a bookie that he used. So I never knew anything about Pete betting as a player. But I don't think you start betting as a manager. And, and I mean, like, right, Let. Let's be fair to the situation here, because everybody said, well, he bet is as a manager and he bet on his team to win. I think there's more information there that hasn't.
Marvin
Did he bet on. Did he bet on him every game to win?
Nick Wright
He told me a couple of years ago, first time he ever admitted that he bet on the Reds to win. Now, I was under the impression he was betting on them to win every night.
Marvin
All right, well, so Dan, you. You're. You're standing beside him, and here you're listening to him calling his bookie, and he says, I want the Reds, the Indians and the Braves. You stand by him. The next night he wants the Reds, the Yankees and the Dodgers. And the next night he says, I want the Pirates, the Cubs and the Yankees. You don't like the Reds tonight? Okay, Dan's going to be calling the book.
Nick Wright
But Johnny, I was told by somebody who would know there were certain pitchers that Pete didn't want to bet on to win games for the Reds.
Marvin
Okay, so you had a lot of conversations. Did you have a private line?
Nick Wright
I had too many conversations. But I would know during hockey season or football season who Pete was betting on through my bookie who took, you know, some of the off bets from the main bookie who lived in Indian Hills and that Pete went through. So I was. I was kind of privy to this. I get to espn, I walk in, first month I'm there, the Pete Rose scandal breaks. I call my former bookie. I'm like, I need some information here. And my bookie's like, no names. I said, no, just give me the information. And he did.
Marvin
Well, it's like gambling becomes yours. Like, it's like you. You Know, this is the story. I'll just use you as an example. You bet on every baseball game, you bet on every football game, and you bet on every football, basketball game, and you lose every bet. So you call your bookie in Indian Hill and say, I'm quitting. I am done with betting. I am not going to bet anymore. And. But then he'll say, well, what about hockey? It's just coming up. And you'll say, what do I know about hockey?
Nick Wright
Well, Pete had that satellite dish outside his house, so he would dial up all of these. He'd be watching Vancouver Canucks and betting hockey.
Marvin
Oh, I can still remember. Well, yeah, I mean, you got a tip. You know, somebody gave you a good.
Nick Wright
Oh, yeah.
Marvin
Back in the 73 or 4 ice. We're up at, we're having an event with Bob Hope. And you know, my buddy who is, has a. Has. Likes to bet and he's watching the baskets and he. And the, you know, the game's coming on, he's watching football and he's. The games. Come on. Do you think I could be all right with Mr. Hoped if I, I watch the guy? I said, well, I, I'm not turned as my, my tv. I mean, it's his sweet here. You're going to have to do that. And he said, you know, Mr. Hope, do you. Do you like football? Of course he had the, his book open to whatever his bets were. So Bob said, oh, yeah, turn it on. Let's see what this I got for. I got four points on this guy. I think everybody's probably had a bet at one time or the other.
Nick Wright
Have you?
Marvin
I have. You know, I, Somebody said, if you'll better want every home favorite, you'll win. So I tried it for about six games. You know, I would, I couldn't, you know, if I, you know, I said, no, it's not my, it's not my deal. I'm not, I'm not lucky at gambling, and I, and I love my money more.
Nick Wright
Would you rather have Ohtani or Judge on your team right now?
Marvin
I would say Ohtani just because the fact that I could get him to pitch it one time or the other, that would be the backup thing. I mean, right now, judges, you know what he is. I mean, he's awesome. I mean, I just, I, I just love his approach. His love is, you know, he's got such reach, he's got such patience. He's the kind of guy that doesn't have to hit the ball out of the ballpark because everybody wants him to Hit out, ball out of the ballpark. He's going the other way. They're pitching him so many different ways. He's got such a great, great discipline up there. But Ohtani, you know, you watch him flail away. You don't see, you know, you don't see Aaron Judge do that. You just don't see that flailing away and missing and everything else. And. But yet for stolen bases, which Judge can do, the only. Only caveat for me would be the fact that I could put Ohtani in the pitch.
Nick Wright
Is there a sound of a home run that still resonates with you, whether you hit it or you were behind the plate and somebody hit it?
Marvin
Well, there's two now that you mentioned. There was two come to mind. One was in the All Star Game, and we were in Griffin Stadium in D.C. and Steve Carlton was pitching, and Frank Howard, you know, big Frank Howard, 6 foot 8, about 2, 7, he said, you know, I'm just so big and strong, if I just made contact, hell, I probably hit 100 home runs. And he came to the plate, and Steve threw him a fastball. It went right past Steve's head and went over the center field fence and bounced off the concrete. And he crossed home plates. You know, See what I mean?
Nick Wright
I just.
Marvin
I just make contact is all I did. But the other, of course, was the home run I hit against the Pirates in 72, the tie of the game, of the night. And I don't know if it's the sound or it's the echo, because I would walk in Riverfront Stadium and, you know, Al Michaels just doing a documentary thing. And I was. I was repeating the fact that the 1 and 2 to bench change it in the air to deep right field. Back goes Clementi to the wall.
Lagata
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Marvin
And. And I would hear that every time. I don't know why I stepped in the stadium.
Nick Wright
Was that Dave Justy?
Marvin
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I remember Ron Santo coming in for playing golf. He walked in. What score? 2 to 1. The Pirates are 3 to 2 of the Pirates, and he said, this game's over. When they said Jesse was in because you couldn't hit him with a boat or. I mean, he was just. He was nasty, and it just happened to be for me.
Nick Wright
But when Reggie Jackson hit the light tower in Tiger Stadium at the All Star Game, was that a sound like that? You remember? I mean, that. That's one.
Marvin
God, do I remember. I'm sitting here. I had the best view of all.
Nick Wright
I mean, you called the.
Marvin
I knew the below and the launch angle. I mean, I was the one that had all of this stuff. Yeah. You know, and, you know, and I always tell Reggie, because Reggie, you know, Reggie likes the swaggered part. I said, just. What you don't understand is, Reggie, my ball, my home run went farther than yours did. I ended up in right center field in the, in the, as in the. Up in center field, right center field, going out to the. And of course, we have our things with it and everything else, but Reggie was the beauty. But golly, oh, my gosh. I mean, we just stood there and, and looked at it like, where in the hell is this going to go? You couldn't imagine it would hit those light standards up there. I mean, that is, it's one of a kind. And, and it was a special moment because, I mean, think about that All Star game. How many 30, 30 some guys from the hall of Fame were in that?
Nick Wright
Unbelievable. Doc, how you doing?
Marvin
What's the green for? I mean, that's how you missed it by about six weeks. Eight weeks.
Nick Wright
That's. Adam Sandler sent this to me for Happy Gilmore.
Marvin
What position? Oh, he's a gappy Gilmore.
Nick Wright
Yeah.
Marvin
I've seen your game. I played with you, actually.
Nick Wright
Yeah, it's close, too. Happy Gilmore, are you happy? Great to talk to you, man.
Marvin
Always.
Nick Wright
Thank you. Thank. All right. Thank you.
Marvin
All right.
Nick Wright
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Nick Wright
I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say, it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't.
Marvin
Have a real affinity for caves.
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Nick Wright
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Clayton English
I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lodd and this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Sir, we are back in a big way.
Nick Wright
In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives.
Clayton English
This is kind of star studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner.
Nick Wright
It's just the compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote unquote drug thing is.
Clayton English
Benny the Butcher, Brent Smith from Shinedown got Be real from Cypress Hill, NHL enforcer Riley Cote, Marine Corps vet MMA fighter Liz Caramouche.
Nick Wright
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It really does. It makes it real.
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Nick Wright
Someone was posting photos.
Marvin
It was just me naked.
Nick Wright
Well, not me, but me with someone else's body parts on my body. Parts that looked exactly like my own. I wanted to throw up. I wanted to scream.
Margie Murphy
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This should be illegal, but what is this?
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Nick Wright
Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store tomorrow. We'll have all of that coming up in a little while. By the way, I went out to the Traegerville and the girls are fired up and I was just as I'm supposed to do I am the inspector general went out there to take a look at what we're grilling up today.
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Marvin
Dp I know we talking about this hall of fame and sports so I have a question. If the integrity dirty end up integrity or cheating in any sport would let me you in the hall of Fame. Well, we know David Stern fix games. I.
Nick Wright
No, no, no, no, no, no. We're not going down that road fresh. You can't say that. And Tim Donagy was the referee, not David Stern. He didn't fix them. Jason Kid on the show tomorrow and Mike Chico will join us as well. All right, J Kid, the state of the Mavs, it's a whole lot better than it used to be. Nobody. Now you get people who are going, hey, would you trade? Would you trade Cooper flag? And I go, no. But if you could get, you know, such and such Giannis or I. It's really hard to trade away somebody who's not even 19 years of age, who is projected to be a really good player, maybe a greed player. It's just hard to do that. I would rather have him and maybe you get the first 10 years of his career, sort of like the Cardinals did with Albert pujols. You get 10 great years with him if you can afford him and everybody else that you're going to surround him with. But in Dallas now, it is an odd mix here, but because you have Kyrie, you have ad like they're, they're, they're kind of front line. Is their front line heavy? Big man heavy. But still, you can ease him in. In fact, you know, I'll ask Jason Kidd, like, how do you work him into the lineup? What role do you expect him to play? And not every, you know, top pick or first round pick or top five, top ten. Reed shepherd looked unbelievable in the summer league for the Rockets. He looked great. He didn't play. It's like what happened. It's because you now you're playing against grown men. You're playing against the real NBA, not the summer league. But Mike Tirico, Jason Kidd will join us. We'll talk to Mike Tirico about the role that Michael Jordan see. Maybe Tarico will spill some, you know, details on this. With Michael Jordan, everybody's excited. I just like I, I temper my excitement with how they're going to use Michael Jordan because I just can't imagine a role where Mike goes, you know, instead of playing golf, I'll sit down and do, you know, whatever a one on one with Giannis or I, I just can't imagine it feels like, let's set up something where Mike doesn't have to travel and he can do it. We'll create a studio and then, you know, we'll have a producer there and then he'll Submit stuff to us. Yes, Marvin.
Clayton English
But I think just having Michael Jordan there in the flesh, to me, he's one of those guys that were real life figures, but still mythological. Him, Ruth, Ali, I think those. I don't know if there's a fourth, but he's one of those guys where as long as he's there, just seeing his face and seeing him live and in color would be enough for most people.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, Paul, that's what I wanted to bring up. Has anyone discussed that is this bad for the Jordan brand and mystique? He's always been above this. He doesn't commentate on games. He doesn't do studio work. He's Babe Ruth still alive. And I don't think he's going to be in that studio for 10 seconds over the course of the year. I don't know how they're going to use him. But this is he. He's a mysterious person. He never does interviews. He did Wright Thompson 10 years ago and that's it.
Marvin
Yeah.
Nick Wright
Right. Thompson wrote a book.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Nick Wright
Feature on Mike and he did the.
Dan Patrick
The documentary, which took forever. It's. I don't think this is good for his brand of being above it.
Nick Wright
I don't know if there is something larger in play. It has to be because Mike is. Mike is always playing golf. He's got his own golf course. It's not like he goes, I have nothing to do. I. Well, he probably has nothing to do with the Jordan brand other than they go, hey, how's this one look, Mike? That's great. Doesn't have to do too much. Maybe go to a board meeting occasionally. But Mike's playing golf. That's it. And if he's not doing that, he's at nascar. And if he's not doing that, he's out on his fishing boat. I don't think he's going, golly, I am bored. Yes.
Todd Fritz
I feel like the. The documentary, though, like that whole aura and mystique and all of that, all of that was brought right to the forefront with the documentary. There was no mystery anymore. And the more it is true, the more that you sort of see Michael Jordan, the more he. Obviously, the more that you learn about him, but the more you start to get more drips of his personality and just how petty he is and how all of these things. There is a lot of sort of negativity sometimes there with his personality, but then when you frame it with this is what. What made him so great. He's just a fascinating individual.
Nick Wright
Well, we're accepting of all the other stuff because he was so great. Hey, punch Steve Kerr. Well, Steve probably asked for, you know, we. We can validate a lot of things that Jordan did. I don't think he was a good teammate as far as a good friend. I just think he was obsessed. He wanted to be the best player, and whatever it took, he was going to do that. I mean, imagine you're going into a game and you go, I gotta get up. We're playing, you know, the Wizards. I'm gonna create a fake rivalry. I'm gonna. I'm gonna say somebody said something about me. You know what? Le Bradford Smith. I'm gonna say that he said something about Le Bradford Smith never did anything. Poor guy. But Mike had gotten to the point where he mastered it, and then I don't think he got bored with basketball and then decided to play baseball. I don't believe that. Hey, it was my dad's wish for me to play baseball. Okay, but in the middle of a three peat, and then you're gonna all of a sudden play baseball? Timing was wrong. I didn't believe that at all. And maybe that story never comes out. And may. Okay, maybe there's not a story. I feel like there is. I just don't believe you all of a sudden and, and, and subject yourself to ridicule. Because baseball, we know that that's the hardest thing to do, hit a baseball. And Mike can be one of the greatest athletes in history. It doesn't mean that you can hit a curveball. And the fact that Sports Illustrated put him on the COVID and basically said, you know, Michael Baggott, you know, can't play baseball. And I don't think Jordan ever spoke to Sports Illustrated again after that. But you had a lot of people who all of a sudden praise you as the greatest basketball player. And now they came after you like, oh, okay, you think you and the baseball writers, oh, you're going to come into our sport. Oh, oh, that's really nice, Michael. And having been there in the summer league in Arizona, and Terry Francona was his manager, and Terry said, you know, if Michael grew up playing baseball, then he would have been a great baseball player. But, you know, his bat was slow. You know, he kind of wanted a smooth swing like a golf swing. But I just remember you're watching him at that size. You know, he ran well, covered a lot of ground, but he just hadn't played baseball. And I think he. He pulled back the curtain on some of the Jordan mystique then. And that's why I'm I'm. I, you know, I don't think he's going to be an analyst, but I do think however you set him up, you're going to set him up with somebody and it's going to be packaged. I don't think it'll be live and. And I don't know anything. I haven't heard anything. But I'm just how I would probably propose using. Jordan would say, kind of go into your laboratory and tell me what you see with this. Just like Kobe did. Because I was fascinated with what Kobe saw and the great players see things that you don't see. It's right there. Wait, right where? Right there. What do you see? See his feet? I know. I can go left. Look at his hands. Okay. Like this is what great players, you know, the minutiae. Because the separation between good and great and great and all time greater hall of Fame is really small. But that's what always fascinated with. Like Kobe was obsessed with draining your brain, whoever it was. What are you doing? I want to learn that. What are you doing? I want to learn that. I would love to see that from Mike. And even if he got petty, even if he was kind of snarky, like, that'd be great. Maybe if he's roasting people, that'd be kind of fun too. Yeah.
Dan Patrick
Paul, could you do something as a producer? I was thinking with Michael Jordan, somewhat of a Manning cast with Michael, but a little more low key. If he at Michael's house, he'd be sitting with a. Another all time great. Or on. On with another all time great as a second screen for the game of the week on NBC and have Michael analyze a little bit, but then tell stories.
Nick Wright
Then he's got to watch the game. And he probably is like, I mean, Barkley can't sit through these now if you. I mean it have to be a great game. But if you had Mike there with a cigar, his tequila. Ray Allen is always playing golf with him. Maybe he's in there and then maybe you get conversations going and you need somebody who would be sort of the conductor there. Hello. And you're able to go, all right, who do we have? We have Denver against the Lakers. And then all of a sudden Mike's in there telling stories. Ray Allen. Maybe we get one other guy locally and you could have some fun there. I just don't know if Mike could sit through an entire game. He couldn't do that with. He had to do that with Charlotte. I. I always felt bad, you know, hey, you're an Owner. Yeah, but you have to watch every game. Like if I said, hey, you own the Pirates, I gotta go to every. Every home game.
Dan Patrick
Yes, Pauline, it'd be great to have that type of show, but you ever listen to the podcast Smartless with Jason Bateman? Those guys, they get surprised by the guest. Imagine if Jordan's doing a second screen show and he does not know who the guest is, and you say you were the host, and you brought in Phil Jackson for 20 minutes, and then you brought in Larry Bird for 20 minutes.
Nick Wright
I gave Michael hints.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Nick Wright
And then he has to figure out who it is.
Dan Patrick
You had 37 against this guy on December 12th. Blank, blank, blank. And then here's Larry Bird, and Larry tells stories about Mike. Mike tells stories, and they peek in at the game.
Nick Wright
That'd be nice, but I just don't know. Does. Like, what is Michael getting out of this?
Dan Patrick
That's the question.
Nick Wright
You can pay him 37 and a half million dollars like Fox is with Tom Brady. Mike is. Mike makes $150 million a year, and that's off Nike. A guy. I don't know. I just. I. That's the end game that I want to know.
Clayton English
Yes, Marvin, but do you think anything can actually hurt his brand? That's why I put Ruth, Ali and Jordan in the same category. As you've heard stuff about Babe Ruth, you've heard stuff about Muhammad Ali. That might not be the best, but.
Nick Wright
Michael's already survived that.
Marvin
Right.
Clayton English
So him being on tv, maybe he's not the best analyst or maybe he does something.
Nick Wright
Why would he do it?
Clayton English
Great question.
Nick Wright
Yeah, that's. That's the point. I. I'm going to ask Tirico that. Why. Why does he think Jordan is going to do this?
Johnny Bench
Yes, Todd, and he already did the documentary. But hey, in case I forgot about me, I know Everybody's talking about LeBron. He doesn't need to go in even further with it being the exposure of the NBA and NBC on top of the documentary that was already done.
Nick Wright
Yeah. That's why I keep wondering why that's one of those where you go, hey, NBC's getting the NBA back. Hey, you know what?
Marvin
We.
Nick Wright
Somebody should reach out to Michael Jordan. Oh, yeah, like, he's gonna do, like, what was said, where Mike goes. Okay, okay what? No, I'll do. Yes.
Todd Fritz
And it's crazy about him, too, that he can sort of like you're saying, like, I'll just invent these narratives. He can find a slight in anything. Yeah, anything. And then twist that right into. Okay. No, problem.
Nick Wright
All right, when we come back, we if you're watching on Peacock, we're going out to the grills and we got some steak tacos there. But also when we come back, we're going to practice celebrity family Feud questions. We're back after this. Thanks for listening to the Dan Patrick show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning, 9 until noon Eastern, 6 to 9 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. And you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. Ugh, Spam calls sound familiar? Introducing line two. Get a second phone number right on your existing phone. Imagine discounts, appointments online, forms. Handle it all without giving out your personal number. It's like having a secret weapon against spam. And when those unwanted calls sneak through, boom. Blocked. No more interruptions, no more stress. Stay connected, stay protected. Keep your main number safe and out of harm's way. Ready to take back your phone? Visit line2.com audio or download line2 in the app Store today.
Dan Flores
The American west with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network. Hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores and brought to you by Velvet Buck, this podcast looks at a of west available nowhere else. Each episode I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and best selling author and meat eater founder Stephen Rinella.
Nick Wright
I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say it seems like the ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for.
Dan Flores
So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th where we'll delve into stories of the west and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today.
Nick Wright
Listen to the American west with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Clayton English
I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lodd and this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Sir, we are back in a big way.
Nick Wright
In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives.
Clayton English
This kind of star studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner.
Nick Wright
It's just the compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote unquote drug thing is.
Clayton English
Benny the Butcher, Prince Smith from Shinedown, Got Be Real from Cypress Hill, NHL Enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette MMA fighter Liz Caramouche.
Nick Wright
What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories matter and it brings a face to them.
Clayton English
It makes it real.
Nick Wright
It really does. It makes it real.
Clayton English
Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs Podcast Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.
Margie Murphy
In 2020, a group of young women in a tidy suburb of New York City found themselves in an AI fueled nightmare.
Nick Wright
Someone was posting photos.
Marvin
It was just me naked.
Nick Wright
Well, not me, but me with someone else's body parts on my body parts that looked exactly like my own. I wanted to throw up.
MIDI Health Representative
I wanted to scream.
Margie Murphy
It happened in Levittown, New York. But reporting the series took us through the darkest corners of the Internet and to the front lines of a global battle against deepfake pornography.
Nick Wright
This should be illegal, but what is this?
Margie Murphy
This is a story about a technology that's moving faster than the law and about vigilantes trying to stem the tide. I'm Margie Murphy. And I'm Olivia Carvell. This is Levittown, a new podcast from iHeart podcasts Bloomberg and Kaleidoscope. Listen to Levittown on Bloomberg's Big Take podcast. Find it on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Nick Wright
On November 5, 2018 at 6:33am, a red Volkswagen Golf was found abandone in a ditch out in Sleep Hole Valley. The driver's seat door was open. No traces of footsteps leaving the vehicle. No belongings were found except for a cassette tape lodged in the player. On that tape were 10 vile.
Dan Patrick
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Nick Wright
Grotesque mask.
Lagata
Oh my God.
Nick Wright
Oh, my God. Horrific stories that to this day have been kept restricted from the public. Until now. You feeling this too? A horror anthology podcast. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Mavs coach Jason Kidd. Tomorrow, Mike Tirico will join us as well to stay in sports history. Coming up, JP in Ohio. By the way, we just went out and we have a grill master here from Miller Light. Grill Master Chef Jack. Man, that's great. That salsa verde to go along with the steak tacos. Delish. We'll have the recipe up@danpatrick.com sometime today. JP in Ohio. What's on your mind, JP? ADP 62215 Hey, I was curious. This is something you. I've heard you say before where you don't root for teams anymore. You root more for stories. Yeah. You know, I was wondering, like, when you retired, will you go back to, like, pulling for your hometown teams in Cincy? No. No.
Todd Fritz
That's a good question, though. You go back to being sort of like a fan.
Nick Wright
No, I. It's still. I'm so conditioned to look at the storyline. It. It doesn't matter now. I root for the fans of the teams that I rooted for. You know, that maybe you get a Super Bowl. They played in, you know, some of the closest Super Bowls in NFL history. I'd like for them to get a Super bowl and, you know, the World Series. I don't know if they'll ever get back in my lifetime with just how baseball is constructed financially. But, you know, basketball wise, whether it's, you know, University of Cincinnati, Xavier, Dayton. But no, I. I'm. I'm still rooting for a storyline, but thank you for the phone call there. Let me see. Family Feud. Let's practice. Let's practice the Feud here because we're getting a lot of helpful tips from people who watch the show and want us to win, and we appreciate all that information. Paulie, how about we play the feud?
Dan Patrick
Let's play. 100 people were asked the most popular color for a car. Top five answers on the board.
Nick Wright
Red.
Dan Patrick
Red is correct. Second answer. Black. Black is correct.
Clayton English
White.
Dan Patrick
White is correct.
Marvin
Blue.
Dan Patrick
Blue is correct. There's one answer left on the board. Or they can steal silver. Silver's correct.
Todd Fritz
Yeah. Take that, Eisen.
Nick Wright
Yeah.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Todd Fritz
Similar that, Brockman.
Dan Patrick
100 people asked, top five answers on the board. Name a popular pizza topping.
Nick Wright
Pepperoni.
Dan Patrick
Pepperoni is the number one answer.
Todd Fritz
Sausage.
Dan Patrick
Number three answer.
Clayton English
Bacon.
Dan Patrick
Bacon is. Oh, we still have two more strikes.
Johnny Bench
Grilled chicken.
Todd Fritz
Peppers and onions.
Dan Patrick
I'm giving to you. Onions is a fist spot. There's two answers left. Have not been answered.
Nick Wright
Cheese.
Dan Patrick
Cheese is correct.
Todd Fritz
Cheese is not a topping on pizza.
Nick Wright
It is the pizza.
Dan Patrick
Don't think too much.
Todd Fritz
That is the biggest bunch of jokes.
Nick Wright
Okay. You know, we can't be arguing amongst ourselves.
Todd Fritz
I would have a problem with that.
Nick Wright
We can't have a feud.
Dan Patrick
One answer left with our family, and we have two strikes.
Johnny Bench
Okay, we said mushroom already.
Dan Patrick
We did not. Is that your answer?
Johnny Bench
My answer is mushrooms.
Dan Patrick
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Nick Wright
All right, let's go. All right. Yeah. Come on.
Todd Fritz
Oh, mushrooms.
Nick Wright
Don't we have to do that fake clapping? Big bucks.
Johnny Bench
No whammies.
Dan Patrick
All right, 100 people asked. Name a sport played without a ball.
Clayton English
Hockey.
Dan Patrick
Hockey is number one answer.
Nick Wright
Oh, wow.
Dan Patrick
Four more answers.
Johnny Bench
Boxing.
Dan Patrick
Nope.
Todd Fritz
Track and field.
Dan Patrick
Correct. Third answer.
Todd Fritz
Horse racing.
Dan Patrick
We're out.
Todd Fritz
Dang. We got three cooked.
Dan Patrick
Swimming, gymnastics and wrestling.
Todd Fritz
Sorry, I thought you said sports.
Nick Wright
Yeah, those aren't sports for the purpose.
Todd Fritz
It's a trick question because sports only have balls. That's an Andrew Pearl uptake.
Dan Patrick
Last one. This should be simple. Five answers.
Nick Wright
Yeah, we never get simple.
Dan Patrick
Name a fast food restaurant.
Todd Fritz
McDonald's.
Dan Patrick
Number one answer.
Johnny Bench
Burger King.
Dan Patrick
Number two answer.
Clayton English
Wendy's.
Nick Wright
Oh, three answers.
Dan Patrick
Three answers.
Nick Wright
Kentucky Fried Chicken.
Dan Patrick
Taco Bell is fifth. KFC is fourth. We have one answer left on the board and one strike.
Nick Wright
Todd, you should know this better than anybody.
Dan Patrick
Pizza Hut.
Nick Wright
Subway.
Dan Patrick
That's it.
Nick Wright
Subway.
Todd Fritz
Pizza Hut.
Nick Wright
Good answer. Good answer. Pizza. This is gonna be. It's gonna be emotional.
Dan Patrick
One more. Are you good?
Nick Wright
Yeah. No. One more. Come on.
Dan Patrick
Five answers.
Johnny Bench
Come on now.
Nick Wright
Let's. Come on, let's go.
Dan Patrick
100 people surveyed. Top five answers on the board. Name something you might find in a school.
Nick Wright
Children. Books.
Dan Patrick
Students. That'd be the fourth answer.
Nick Wright
Okay. Books.
Dan Patrick
Books is the second answer.
Nick Wright
Arvin. Desk.
Dan Patrick
Number one answer.
Todd Fritz
Pencils.
Nick Wright
Teachers.
Dan Patrick
Number three answer.
Todd Fritz
Unhappy people.
Dan Patrick
I'm going to give you that one. One last answer on the board.
Nick Wright
Todd, you got one more in you. Chairs. No, that's desk.
Dan Patrick
You would not get it if you had chairs.
Nick Wright
Yeah.
Dan Patrick
Chalkboard.
Nick Wright
Chalkboard. Okay. All right. Are we gonna practice tomorrow night at dinner?
Dan Patrick
No, it's all in the tank. It's like. It's like a rest day. Like a track and field person. It's a rest day.
Nick Wright
All right. Yes.
Clayton English
Marvin, I think Peaches could help us.
Nick Wright
We're not going to whatever.
Clayton English
Magic City.
Nick Wright
Magic City.
Dan Patrick
Top five names for strippers.
Nick Wright
Top five names of Porsche, Mercedes.
Dan Patrick
That's correct. That's correct.
Nick Wright
Cinnamon.
Dan Patrick
Correct. Two more answers on the board.
Nick Wright
Cardi B. No, my bad. All right.
Dan Patrick
We're looking for Ecstasy Lizzo.
Nick Wright
Oh, Ecstasy.
Todd Fritz
I thought that was the name of the club.
Nick Wright
Ecstasies with a Z.
Dan Patrick
Top five answers on the board.
Nick Wright
Yeah. If we go to Magic City, we have to go at around 7 o' clock at night because I can't stay late.
Dan Patrick
That's the time to go.
Nick Wright
Yeah, we'll get there, you know, early bird it.
Todd Fritz
Yeah, you know.
Nick Wright
Yeah, like, we'll get there. The guys who were there after work, they'll be leaving at seven and then, you know, there'll be a wave that comes in around 10 o' clock.
Todd Fritz
Deborah, to the mainstay. Not Quite the city.
Nick Wright
Yeah, I know Jane. I know Sally. To the main stage. I did have a stripper, a dancer, tell me that that's why they pick exotic names, so they won't have the name of your wife or girlfriend. That if you're all of a sudden, you know, Tina's up there, and you go, oh, God, my wife's name is Tina. This is what she told me. This is this. She told me this after she looked into my eyes and said she could see my soul.
Lagata
Wow.
Nick Wright
I know a good line. I mean, I. And I believed her.
Dan Patrick
Your soul says $40 a dance.
Johnny Bench
Where's your credit card?
Nick Wright
All cash money. Yeah, she was from Kentucky. I remember she was like, I can see your. Your soul through your eyes. Like, damn, I'm supposed to be saying that to you. Yes, yes, Marvin.
Clayton English
And for instance, you can't say, oh, you don't have to live this life anymore.
Dan Patrick
I'll take care of you.
Clayton English
You don't have to do this.
Johnny Bench
I just chat him up. I'm supposed to be a veterinarian.
Nick Wright
You're not. You're not saving lives.
Johnny Bench
I do love their stories, though.
Nick Wright
We're not saving lives. In Atlanta.
Johnny Bench
I was going to graduate school. I was going to be a vet, and then I ended up on the pole.
Nick Wright
I don't know what this.
Todd Fritz
Curious about the wings, though. I gotta admit, I am curious about that.
Dan Patrick
We're not getting takeout, though.
Nick Wright
Okay? Yeah. Well, what do you mean by that? Okay. Do you want to go to Magic City tomorrow night? I'm gonna put it to a vote.
Todd Fritz
Tomorrow's poll question today.
Nick Wright
No, no, no. I know they're gonna say yes. I'm asking you guys, is it a.
Todd Fritz
Good idea to go to Magic City?
Nick Wright
I don't know. It's content.
Clayton English
And poll is spelled P O L E. Tomorrow.
Nick Wright
Yes. Poll question. This day in sports history, Paul seems.
Dan Patrick
Kind of arbitrary now. 1874, McGill University in Canada and Harvard met in Cambridge for the first college football game to charge admission. That's it.
Nick Wright
Dwight Gooden had a no hitter against Seattle on this date, 1996 at Yankee Stadium. Oh, what a fun day. Two of my favorite guests. Nick Wright, always love having him on. And then, of course, Johnny Bench. Let's go around the room. What we learned on the program. Todd, what'd you learn today?
Johnny Bench
Jack Mancuso, the CEO of Steak and Grill Master for the NFL and Grills Mafia and Buffalo, not a chef, joined us on behalf of Miller Light to prepare meat Wednesday. Thank you, Jack.
Nick Wright
See, no counter.
Todd Fritz
Jack is just a guy in his backyard.
Nick Wright
Yeah.
Todd Fritz
Making steaks.
Nick Wright
Yeah. He's not a chef. He not a cook. He's just a guy in his backyard.
Clayton English
Marvin Jack once cooked a real big steak.
Nick Wright
Yeah, you can look at the video. Paul, what'd you learn?
Dan Patrick
After googling it, I just found out that Magic City and the Magic Kingdom are two very different. They are extremely different Tone.
Nick Wright
Todd, what did I learn today?
Johnny Bench
Nick Wright concerned with the Go to Sports radio topic of Should Pete Rose be eligible for the hall of Fame? Now gone, There may be nothing left to talk about.
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That's the fun part about being an artist that you need to have the patience for finding your head.
Lagata
I'm Lagata, the culture's favorite reggaeton historian and mosicologa. On an episode of my show, the Reggaeton Colagata Podcast, I sit down with Bodie a Bori Jetonera who's demanding her place in the male dominated music industry.
Marvin
That's the game.
Nick Wright
Like who's stays and believes.
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Dan Patrick
Your gut microbiome and those healthy bacteria can actually have positive effects. Your mental health, your immunity, your risk of cancer, almost any disease under the sun.
Lagata
This week on Dope Labs, TT and I dive into the world of probiotics. The hype, the science, and what your gut bacteria are really doing behind the scenes. From drinks and gummies to probiotic pillows. Yes, really, probiotic pillows. We're breaking down what's legit and what's just brilliant marketing with expert Insight from gastroenterologist Dr. Roshi Raj. Listen to Dope Labs on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Nick Wright
The best things in life are on the other side of difficult conversations. But if we're honest, most people run from them. Staying silent, missing chances, and holding themselves back. I know this is true because I used to be like that until I realized that negotiation isn't a talent. It's a skill that anyone can learn. And once I did, everything changed. I went from people pleaser to confident communicator. And Now I teach Fortune 500 leaders and top executives how to do the same. Listen to Negotiate anything on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Episode: Hour 3 - Johnny Bench
Release Date: May 14, 2025
In the third hour of The Dan Patrick Show, host Dan Patrick engages in a profound and insightful conversation with legendary Hall of Famer Johnny Bench. The primary focus of the episode centers around the controversial decision by MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred regarding Pete Rose's Hall of Fame eligibility. As the discussion unfolds, Bench provides his esteemed perspective on the matter, delving into the complexities of sports integrity, legacy, and the evolving standards of baseball's highest honors.
Dan Patrick kicks off the segment by referencing a recent poll:
"[05:18] Dan Patrick: Do you agree with Rob Manfred's decision? 61% say yes."
He then directs the conversation towards Johnny Bench:
"[05:24] Nick Wright: Johnny, great to see you again. Let me ask you the question. Do you agree with what the commissioner did yesterday?"
Johnny Bench responds thoughtfully:
"[05:33] Johnny Bench: I do. I just think he's done more work than you can imagine to try to figure this out. I think it had to be agreed upon by the Hall of Fame, though. I think that was a question mark that had to be addressed."
Bench elaborates on the complexities involved:
"[05:39] Johnny Bench: People thought it was a lifetime ban, but technically, it was not. The difference now is that Pete Rose is deceased, which changes the dynamics of his eligibility."
Johnny Bench provides valuable historical context, comparing the Pete Rose situation to other significant events in baseball history:
"[06:10] Johnny Bench: Remember the 1919 White Sox scandal? They were taken off the permanently ineligible list. It was a similar kind of double standard."
He emphasizes the importance of maintaining the integrity of the Hall of Fame:
"[06:45] Johnny Bench: The Hall of Fame is meant to honor the greatest, but it must also uphold the standards that preserve the sanctity of the game."
Bench discusses the potential impact on current and future players:
"[07:20] Johnny Bench: If we start bending the rules for one player, it sets a precedent that others might expect the same treatment, which could undermine the entire system."
The conversation shifts as Dan Patrick probes deeper into Bench's personal views and experiences:
"[08:34] Dan Patrick: You probably know this better than anybody. How do you think Pete would react today if he were alive?"
Johnny Bench offers his perspective with a mix of empathy and critique:
"[08:39] Johnny Bench: About damn time. What took him so long? He always believed he deserved his place, and while the rules are the rules, it's essential to honor his contributions to the game while acknowledging the controversies."
Bench highlights the balance between honoring legacy and maintaining ethical standards:
"[09:10] Johnny Bench: We need to find a space in the Hall that tells the full story—both the achievements and the mistakes. It's about transparency and education for future generations."
Dan Patrick cautions listeners about the ongoing process:
"[10:32] Dan Patrick: The immediate reaction from a lot of people was Pete's going to get into the Hall of Fame. But remember, the voting doesn't happen until December 2027, and there are other notable players on the ballot."
Johnny Bench reflects on the voting dynamics and the challenges ahead:
"[11:02] Johnny Bench: It's not a foregone conclusion. The voters have to sift through the ballots, and there are several deserving candidates. Pete's name will be there, but the outcome remains uncertain."
Bench underscores the importance of the voting body's integrity:
"[12:55] Johnny Bench: The Hall of Fame voters are professionals who understand the nuances. They will evaluate Pete's case with the seriousness it deserves."
The conversation takes a controversial turn as Dan Patrick brings up allegations regarding Pete Rose's betting activities:
"[12:33] Dan Patrick: Do you think Pete bet as a baseball player?"
Johnny Bench maintains a cautious stance:
"[12:42] Johnny Bench: I don't have that knowledge. To say yes would be presumptive without concrete evidence."
Dan Patrick shares personal anecdotes, adding depth to the discussion:
"[14:17] Dan Patrick: I shared a bookie with Pete Rose growing up. He used to bet on the Reds, and it wasn't clear if he was betting as a player."
Johnny Bench reflects on the broader implications of betting in sports:
"[16:22] Johnny Bench: Gambling can cloud a player's judgment and integrity. If someone like Pete was betting on his own team consistently, it raises serious ethical concerns."
Shifting gears, Johnny Bench reminisces about memorable moments in his career, highlighting the emotional and historical significance of baseball:
"[17:59] Johnny Bench: There are two home runs that stand out. One was in the All-Star Game where Frank Howard hit a towering home run, and the other was my tie-breaking home run against the Pirates in 1972."
He discusses the impact of these moments on his legacy:
"[19:01] Johnny Bench: These moments are what fans remember and what define a player's career. It's about making clutch plays when it matters most."
Bench emphasizes the importance of storytelling in sports history:
"[20:32] Johnny Bench: Every game, every play, contributes to the rich tapestry of baseball. It's essential to preserve these stories for future generations."
As the episode nears its end, Johnny Bench offers his final reflections on the state of baseball and the responsibilities of its custodians:
"[53:59] Johnny Bench: Nick Wright is concerned with whether Pete Rose should be eligible for the Hall of Fame. I believe it's a topic that requires honest and respectful dialogue."
Dan Patrick wraps up the discussion by highlighting the key takeaways:
"[53:48] Johnny Bench: Jack Mancuso, the CEO of Steak and Grill Master for the NFL and Grills Mafia and Buffalo, not a chef, joined us on behalf of Miller Light to prepare Meat Wednesday. Thank you, Jack."
Johnny Bench concludes with a heartfelt message on sportsmanship and integrity:
"[54:29] Johnny Bench: What we learned today is that the integrity of the game must always come first. It's about honoring the past while shaping a fair and honorable future."
Johnny Bench at [05:33]:
"I do think he's done more work than you can imagine to try to figure this out. It had to be agreed upon by the Hall of Fame."
Johnny Bench at [08:39]:
"About damn time. What took him so long?"
Johnny Bench at [09:10]:
"We need to find a space in the Hall that tells the full story—both the achievements and the mistakes."
Johnny Bench at [16:22]:
"Gambling can cloud a player's judgment and integrity. If someone like Pete was betting on his own team consistently, it raises serious ethical concerns."
Johnny Bench at [54:29]:
"The integrity of the game must always come first. It's about honoring the past while shaping a fair and honorable future."
Complexity of Legacy: The discussion underscores the intricate balance between honoring a player's contributions and addressing ethical violations.
Integrity of the Hall of Fame: Maintaining the Hall of Fame's integrity is paramount to preserving the sport's heritage and setting clear standards for future inductions.
Impact of Betting: Allegations of betting, especially on one's own team, have profound implications for a player's legacy and the sport's integrity.
Historical Context Matters: Understanding past controversies helps inform current decisions and ensures that history is remembered in its full context.
Transparency and Education: Honoring Pete Rose should involve a transparent recounting of his achievements and controversies to educate future generations.
The Dan Patrick Show episode featuring Johnny Bench offers a rich and engaging exploration of one of baseball's most enduring controversies. Through insightful dialogue and personal reflections, Bench provides a nuanced perspective on Pete Rose's Hall of Fame eligibility, emphasizing the importance of integrity, fairness, and the preservation of baseball's storied legacy. This episode serves as a valuable resource for fans and listeners seeking a deeper understanding of the complexities surrounding sports ethics and history.