Hour 3 – Lakers Big Win, Nischelle Turner and Kevin Frazier

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Podcast Summary: The Dan Patrick Show

Episode: Hour 3 – Lakers Big Win, Nischelle Turner and Kevin Frazier
Date: March 16, 2026
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Dan Patrick Show blends March Madness bracket talk and NCAA selection debate with lively discussion on the previous night’s Academy Awards. A central highlight is the appearance of Entertainment Tonight hosts Nischelle Turner and Kevin Frazier, who join the show to share behind-the-scenes Oscar insights, offer bracket predictions, and engage in playful banter with Dan and the crew. The hour features sports analysis (notably LeBron’s Lakers), reflections on legendary college basketball coaches, Oscars surprises (and snubs), and humor-laden pop culture debates.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. March Madness: NCAA Selection & Blue Blood Brackets (03:00–16:30)

• March Madness Field: The team reviews the NCAA bracket, noting the absence of major selection controversies.
  • "Doesn't feel like that. I mean, Bruce Pearl who joined us in the first hour... said, hey, Auburn shouldn't have made it." (04:36)
• Miami of Ohio’s Inclusion: Explored as a “story pick” due to their undefeated run and local proximity to Dayton.
• Bracket Strength & Legacy Impact:
  • UConn and Duke’s tough bracket draw is debated (10:52–12:04).
  • Rick Pitino is highlighted as a coach who could boost his legacy with a tournament run at St. John's.
    • "He can coach better than anybody, or I should say as well as anybody... He's that good." (12:31)
• Changing College Basketball Landscape:
  • Coaches like Saban, Jay Wright, Coach K, Tony Bennett have retired; Pitino and Calipari praised for adapting to NIL and the transfer portal era.
    • "You got to evolve. You gotta change or get out of the sport." (14:49)
• Callers Weigh In:
  • Audience calls reflect on golf, brackets, and the “best and worst of the weekend.” (e.g., Zach from Knoxville and Joe from Chicago)

2. NBA Quick Hit: LeBron Embracing a Support Role (06:00–07:20)

• Lakers’ big win is discussed with LeBron attempting to “fit in as the third wheel,” praising his unselfishness:
  • "I will give LeBron credit because it really feels like he's trying to fit in as the third wheel here..." (06:39)
• Crew jokes about LeBron’s age (41), comparing him to Marvin.

3. Movie & Oscars Review With Nischelle Turner and Kevin Frazier (20:08–31:03)

• Oscars Reactions:
  • Michael B. Jordan’s Best Actor win is described as both joyful and a notable late development.
    • "I think the biggest joy of the night was Michael B. Jordan winning best actor. I don't know if it was necessarily a surprise because the tide started turning in that race." – Nischelle Turner (22:58)
  • Amy Madigan’s rise for Best Supporting Actress in "Prisoners" cited as an example of late momentum.
• Best Actress Debate:
  • Jesse Buckley's win for "Hamnet" is praised for being undeniable and a truly standout performance.
    • "She is really, like, leaving everything that she has out there for this part." – Nischelle Turner (08:20)
    • "Her expressions in Hamnet were incredible... you literally could not pull yourself away from the screen." – Kevin Frazier (28:32–28:44)
• Cultural Critique:
  • Discussion on "Wolf of Wall Street":
    • Mix of admiration and criticism for being “over the top,” with jokes about its length.
    • "It was three hours of being over the top. This could have been a buck 45, easy." – Nichelle Turner (10:19)
• Timothée Chalamet’s Campaign and “Fatigue”:
  • Explores how Chalamet’s sports-heavy, non-traditional press tour may have hurt his Oscar chances.
    • "He just wasn't where the voters were." – Dan Patrick (25:32)
• Sean Penn’s Absence:
  • Rumors about Penn's location and recognition of his performance.
    • "Sean Penn gave the best performance on camera in any movie this year... Ridiculous he wasn't there." – Dan Patrick (27:49)
• Is Ping Pong Oscar Winner a Sports Movie?
  • Spirited debate about whether the Best Picture winner qualifies as a true sports film.
    • "No, I think it is. No, absolutely. I'll disagree with you on that. It's a movie about ping pong. It's a movie about life." – Dan Patrick (26:26)
    • "The sport of, I think, spin ping pong... almost the backdrop to the manic craziness." – Kevin Frazier (26:43)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On LeBron’s Place in the Lakers:
  • "He dove on the floor like he was a gritty and gutty guy... that's not your job. He's as old as I am!" – Marvin (06:49)
• On March Madness Mindset:
  • "My bracket is busted every year from the beginning because I'm a homer... I usually take [Missouri] to the Final Four." – Nischelle Turner (21:45)
• On Rick Pitino’s Coaching Resilience:
  • "When you're so toxic you have to coach in another country. That's how bad that dip was post Louisville." – Seaton (14:09)
• Oscars Recap Banter:
  • "We go from who's going to win the Howard-UMBC game to open mouth kissing with Michelle. What the hell is going on?" – Kevin Frazier (30:47)
• On Celebrity and Late Night Hosts:
  • "I respect every one of those guys for what they do, how they do it, to do it five nights a week... I just don't stay up." – Dan Patrick (35:36)
  • "You can make the case in the late 70s that Johnny Carson was the most famous American, not the president." – Seaton (38:28)
• On Food Regret:
  • "Hot dog is the kind of thing you eat and you're going, damn, this tastes good. And yet you immediately feel regret..." – Paulie (31:31)
• Show Banter and Chemistry:
  • "Would you like to be my next leading man in my next Lifetime Christmas movie?" – Nischelle Turner
  • "Absolutely." – Dan Patrick (30:24-30:28)
• Listener Engagement:
  • Listeners call in with “best and worst of the weekend,” sports trivia, and playful bets (incl. a Dolphins-Jets wager). (31:53; 33:44)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:00 – NCAA Bracket and Auburn controversy
• 06:49 – Lakers win, LeBron’s “third wheel” status
• 10:52 – Caller on bracket “blue bloods,” UConn & Duke’s draw
• 12:04 – Rick Pitino's legacy; coaching evolution in CBB
• 20:08 – Nischelle Turner & Kevin Frazier join for Oscars/hoops talk
• 21:45 – Turner on Missouri basketball / Bracket “homerism”
• 22:58 – Michael B. Jordan wins Best Actor
• 25:32 – Chalamet’s marketing strategy “misses” Oscar voters
• 26:26 – Ping Pong Oscar debate (“is it a sports movie?”)
• 27:49 – Sean Penn’s absence / Oscar snubs
• 28:32 – Jesse Buckley’s performance in Hamnet
• 30:24 – Lifetime movie banter (Dan x Nischelle “casting”)
• 31:59 – Callers’ best/worst of the weekend (sports moments)
• 35:36 – Dan on late night hosts & showmanship
• 38:28 – Carson vs. the President: Most famous American
• 46:02 – Poll question results: snubs, Tom Cruise v. Sean Penn, Ford v. Cruise
• 51:01 – “What did we learn?” segment; wrapping up with cast reflections

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Tone & Atmosphere

• Conversational, humorous, and energetic:
  The hour flows with genuine chemistry between Dan, his crew, and his guests, mixing equal parts sports expertise, pop culture knowledge, and self-deprecating humor.
• Expertise meets fandom:
  Insights from entertainment insiders (Nischelle, Kevin) are friendly, generous, and spirited, as are deep dives into sports legacies and bracketology.
• Engaged audience:
  Listeners contribute stories, stats, and lighthearted input, amplifying the community vibe.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode expertly weaves sports and pop culture themes, balancing NCAA Tournament anticipation, NBA observations, and insightful Oscars analysis with plenty of witty banter and audience engagement. If you love discussions that see college hoops, cinema, and celebrity collide—or just want to hear broadcast pros crack each other up—it’s an essential listen.

Transcript

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[Todd]

So no bracket or Oscars controversy?

[Paulie]

No, I don't think so. I mean there's a, a couple of schools that you could say, all right, you got a little bit of a gripe. But I don't think it's anything glaring for anybody. Doesn't feel that way. I mean, Bruce Pearl who joined us in the first hour, you know, he said, hey, Auburn, you know, shouldn't have made it. If you look at their record, yes, they had a really tough schedule and they go 17 and 16. And yes, you're playing a lot of, you know, big time opponents there. Quad One. I understand all of that and do I think the Miami of Ohio story played a large role. Maybe not 95% as Bruce Pearl said, but I do think we love those stories. I mean at the time we were talking about it. They were undefeated. Then they get clipped and we didn't know if a one loss team would not be making it in. Is the resume great? No. Is it good? No. But they did go undefeated and I think you have to have, you know, there's the human element of the selection committee and that's where you're looking at. You know, it's a good story. Plus, they're going to be sort of playing at home at the University of Dayton. That's 40 minutes away from the campus. I'm going to guess that they're going to show up. A lot of pressure though. It feels like. Of winning that game. Feels like that. Let's see NBA on NBC and Peacock every Tuesday in prime time. Coast to coast Tuesday. Cavs taking on the Bucks in the West. The Sixers and the Nuggets. Begins Tuesday on NBC. And Peacock, by the way, the Austin Reeves intentionally missed free throw. Get it back. Score. And then Luca with a jumper. They have, they have the talent, they have the ability. I just don't know if they can continue to play. And you got to get defense you like. That's what I keep waiting. And I will give, I will give LeBron credit because it really feels like he's trying to fit in as the third wheel here because it, I mean, he should understand that because it is Luca. And Austin Reeves, it feels like he's passing more than, than shooting. Yes.

[Marvin]

Marvin, he dove on the floor like.

[Paulie]

Oh, I saw that.

[Marvin]

Like he was a gritty and gutty guy.

[Paulie]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Marvin]

No, that's not your job. He's as old as I am. Come on. Yeah, he's literally as old as I am.

[Paulie]

He's your age.

[Marvin]

Yeah. He's 41.

[Paulie]

Wow.

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[Paulie]

Better career. You or LeBron?

[Marvin]

Ah, both grew up fatherless and we defied the odds. I'm gonna say LeBron just by a millimeter.

[Paulie]

All right. Yeah. Paul.

[Seaton]

Both polarizing. Actually, everyone. Actually everyone likes Marvin.

[Paulie]

Yeah.

[Seaton]

That's why it's funny.

[Paulie]

Yeah. One battle after another ended up winning. It was favored best actress Jesse Buckley. Very, very heavily favored. Michael B. Was, I think the second favorite. Sean Penn. Best supporting Amy Madigan. Her husband is Ed Harris. Correct. Yeah.

[Seaton]

Amy Madigan, big time actor.

[Paulie]

Yeah. Paul Thomas Anderson. That was a big one. He was minus 2500. And best original screenplay, sinners. Yeah. Seaton.

[Michelle Turner]

Jesse Buckley from Hamnet.

[Paulie]

Yeah.

[Michelle Turner]

You know how sometimes people, they'll say something when they're talking about a performance where they're like, wow, they really gave everything they had. Like they really let it all out there. I never really understood what that meant until I watched Hamnet and I was like, oh, my God, this lady is really going for it.

[Paulie]

Like, she.

[Michelle Turner]

It was crazy what she was doing on camera. And you're like, dang. She is really, like, leaving everything that she has out there for this part.

[Paulie]

It was really interesting, and it didn't feel like that there was anybody else in the category that she was going to win. And, you know, my wife and daughters watched Hamnet and I said. And they said, okay. I said, well, you know that Jesse Buckley is going to win the Academy Award. And they're like, no, okay. Yeah, yeah. She was pretty good. You know, wasn't one of those that. Oh, my God, yes, Seaton.

[Michelle Turner]

She was incredible. She was unbelievable. The movie itself, though, it was. It's kind of like. It was. It's made for, like, the artist, you know, where they're like, oh, you just don't. The subtleties of everything. And you kind of get to the end of the movie and you're like, oh, that's what this was about. Okay, got it. Maybe I should watch it again to see if I understand it better or something.

[Paulie]

Plus, during the commercial break, as I walked from my side of the room to the other side of the room and Paulie goes wolf of Wall Street. Then he put both of his hands up in the air and then gave it a thumbs down.

[Seaton]

I was. I saw that movie about a month after all you guys saw it, and everyone saw it. Like, you gotta see it. You gotta see it. I thought it was way too over the top. And she. Some great actors. Way too over the top. Some of those scenes.

[Paulie]

I think it's hard to watch a movie when you don't like the guy who is the star. I mean, DiCaprio, but he's. He's playing this role and you don't like the guy. I. I was kind of like, okay. I mean, I watched it, but I was like, it didn't need to be so over the top. And it felt like that. You know, there's a boat scene, and then when he's drunk coming out of the country club, trying to crawl to his. Or he's got on drugs or whatever. Trying to crawl to his car. Yeah.

[Michelle Turner]

You know, the thing is, the movie was over the top, which didn't necessarily bother me, but it was three hours of being over the top. And it was like, damn, man, this could have been a buck 45, easy. I get it.

[Paulie]

I get it.

[Michelle Turner]

It's excessive. Got it. And it just kept going on and on and on.

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[Caller]

Adp, thanks for taking my call. You were talking about best John Cusack scene earlier, and that's definitely better off dead when he pulls up at the red light and the guys that learned English by listening to Howard Cosell pull up and drag race him. Lane Maya. And I think CBS was too worried about Auburn to focus on the fact that the number one overall seed, Duke, and my Yukon Husky seemed to have drawn the toughest bracket. And do you think that that is legitimate, or do you think it's just because of all of the blue bloods that are in that bracket that make it seem so daunting?

[Paulie]

Well, they put blue bloods in there, certainly the coaches in there. But yeah. I was curious where UConn would be seated after being blown out in the Big east title game. But as Jay Billis talked about last hour, you know, they're looking at the totality of your, your season. They're not looking at the last 10 games. And I thought that that's the way it used to be, certainly maybe 15 years ago, 10 years ago. But that apparently is not the case now.

[Seaton]

Yes, Paulie, if you're looking, and we do this during football season, like, who can help their legacy the most in this tournament? We mentioned rick Patino at St. John's if he wins in round one, he would probably face Kansas in round two. That would be a biggie, a focal point game. Then round three, he could likely get Duke. And can you imagine if somehow St. John's took down Kansas, Duke back to back. It would be like a rebirth for him Nationwide.

[Paulie]

Yeah, they had a disappointment. They had a flame out last year in the tournament. I mean, it was such a weird game last year, but I mean, he can coach. He can. He can coach better than anybody, or I should say as well as anybody. He's the kind of coach, he can take his players and beat you. He could take your players and, you know, beat his team. I mean, I just think he has that capability. He's that good. And Bruce Pearl said, look, he would. He was just always overly prepared whenever I faced him. He was. He knew what I was going to do. And. But I mean, if you look at where he's been, here's Patino, 1974, he's in Hawaii as an assistant. Then he became the interim head coach at Hawaii, an assistant at Syracuse, head coach at Boston University, and assistant with the Knicks, head coach at Providence, head coach of the Knicks, head coach at Kentucky, head coach of the Celtics, then Louisville. Then he goes to Greece and wins a championship, comes back and coaches at Iona and now at St. John's I remember when Patino, when he came back to Iona and it was like, what. What is going on? And then lo and behold, you know, ends up making a tournament after the Louisville mess, and he gets out of the country, goes over to Greece, and then comes back and I thought, man, he can't get away from coaching. Goes to Iona, takes him to the tournament, then goes to St. John's yeah,

[Seaton]

Paulie, when you're so toxic, you have to coach in another country. That's how bad that dip was post Louisville.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Joe in Chicago. Hi, Joe. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Yeah, great show, Dan. Hopefully. I told the producer, I don't know who's going to replace you. And the best of the weekend was the golf. Another player blowing the four stroke lead. And the worst of the weekend was all these tournaments with nobody showing up at them, which is ridiculous. And real fast. Lambert and Jay Billis from the same area. Beautiful golf course there. Lowe's Verdes. Oh, you gotta play the next time or something. California.

[Paulie]

Thank you, Joe. Look at the coaches who have retired recently. So you got Saban, Tony Bennett, Jay Wright, Roy Williams, Coach K. Bruce Pearl, Jim Boeheim, Jim Calhoun. Calhoun's not that recent, but you get the idea. The fact that Patino is. He's embracing what modern college basketball is all about. Calipari. Same way that they get it, you got to evolve. You got to change or get out of the sport. And Jay Wright and Tony Bennett, they got. I mean, Tony Bennett got out early, Jay Wright, you know, these guys could have done that for another 10 years. But the fact that Caliperi is still doing it at a high level, and, you know, Bruce Pearl walks away from $30 million. Yes.

[Marvin]

Mark, if you're a Kentucky fan, are you thinking to yourself, maybe we shouldn't have gotten rid of Calipari

[Paulie]

or Patino, that.

[Marvin]

That's a whole different can of worms right there.

[Paulie]

But, but I. I think with Caliperi, I think it was at. I think it was best for both at the time that they needed to separate. Yes.

[Todd]

Todd, I wonder how much is embracing, you know, the changes in nil and everything versus how. How much it's like I just love coaching so much. Regardless of these obstacles and all the weird things and the changes that have happened over the years, I just want to keep coaching and I'll just, you know, navigate through it even though it kind of sucks.

[Paulie]

Yeah, but I think you have to embrace all of it. I don't think you can go. I love coaching but I don't like deal, you know, with nil and advisors and you know, transfers and you gotta, you gotta embrace it because that's the landscape.

[Marvin]

Yes, Marv, and also with Patino, he didn't want to his story to end in Greece. He wanted to come back and make one more run at a big time program and that's what he's doing.

[Paulie]

He didn't want it to end at Iona. That also yes, they got the opportunity. All right, we'll head to Hollywood when we come back. Back after this.

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[Kevin Frazier]

That's all we want to talk about, Dan.

[Paulie]

Please.

[Kevin Frazier]

Oscars. We are trying to figure out our travel plans right now. Everybody's trying to figure out how we're going to get there to get to

[Dan Patrick]

St. Louis on Friday so I can

[Kevin Frazier]

watch my Tigers Dayton on Tuesday.

[Paulie]

Kevin, where'd you go to school?

[Kevin Frazier]

Ah, Hampton. But my son plays at Howard University. They play in Dayton on Tuesday night in your old stomping grounds against umbc. I'm on a text chain with Jimmy Ferry, the coach at UMBC, because he's been a friend for 20 years and they're their star, Ace Valentine. I grew up with his uncles. His mama worked with my daddy and it's a game I got to get to. You stuck the team from the MEAC in the playing game again.

[Paulie]

Damn it, I'm pissed. Michelle, you a proud grad of Missouri?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, indeed, Miz.

[Paulie]

Okay. How far are you going to have them going, though?

[Dan Patrick]

You know, I, I. My bracket is busted every year from the beginning because I'm a homer homer to like the hilt, Dan. And I've got them going. I usually take him to the final four. I don't know why, but I just do.

[Kevin Frazier]

They're a good team.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. No, you know what? They can be dangerous if they just act like they got some sense. Just act like you got some sense.

[Kevin Frazier]

And my kid, Theo Barrett, I love

[Dan Patrick]

that side show, Bob cuz like Sideshow

[Kevin Frazier]

Bob from the Simpsons and the big boy inside. Yes, Dan. Missouri came to Howard this year to open the season up. It was amazing. I want to shout out coach Gates for doing that. To bring an SEC team to an hbcu. More of that should happen. Then there wouldn't be these inequities come time for the NCAA tournament. And hell of a job by Kenny Blakeney at Howard after his best player was stolen by Creighton. Don't let me get started.

[Dan Patrick]

Let him get started, Dan. Let him cook.

[Paulie]

No, no, no. We got. I want to know whether any. Any surprises last night. Like there was no surprises on selection. Surprises. Like biggest surprise was one biggest surprise.

[Dan Patrick]

You know, I think the biggest joy of the night was Michael B. Jordan winning best actor. I don't know if it was necessarily a surprise because he had kind of the tide started turning in that race. I think in the last few weeks

[Kevin Frazier]

where he was, I think even after the Golden Globes, you could see it moving. Even though there was a choice Timothee Chalamet.

[Dan Patrick]

And, you know, so people were saying, well, maybe Michael B. Jordan could win this. And then I think in the last week, it was like, well, he could now be the favorite.

[Paulie]

Wait, but when are the votes in? Like, oh, the votes.

[Dan Patrick]

It was like. No, it was like, like two. Two weeks ago. Last Thursday on a Thursday was the closing of the votes.

[Kevin Frazier]

I think that's why you also saw Amy Madigan move up so dramatically in the end. I mean, she played a hell of a role in prisoners. Gladys is an all time character.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, absolutely. But I think a lot in that race, a lot of the other people canceled each other out and so. But I also think. I mean, she was incredible in that movie. But, yeah, I don't know that I would say surprises. The only thing, Dan, is that all the races were up in the air, going in. So not really a surprise, but just like, what's gonna happen? What's gonna go on here?

[Paulie]

How many movies will be labeled a

[Dan Patrick]

classic of this year? Two. Yeah. One battle after another and sinners will both.

[Paulie]

Oh, wow.

[Kevin Frazier]

See, we disagree. I say Hamnet and sinners.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, well, Hamnet's pretty much a perfect movie. I don' know if you've seen it, Dan.

[Paulie]

I made my. My wife watched it and I told her to download me on it.

[Dan Patrick]

So she gave you the clip.

[Kevin Frazier]

You will cry.

[Paulie]

You will cry. I was watching Weekend at Bernie's and

[Kevin Frazier]

I told her for the 117th time.

[Paulie]

Yeah. And you know, he's dead. He. He's actually dead.

[Kevin Frazier]

He is. Dan was actually reading his script for the next Adam Sandler movie.

[Paulie]

That's what he was doing. Of course he was.

[Dan Patrick]

I. I think actually one of the big surprises, Dan, is that your boy Adam Sandler didn't get nominated for an Oscar. Maybe that was the biggest surpr.

[Paulie]

No, it was the previous uncut gems that to me was. Was criminal.

[Dan Patrick]

He was great. Yeah, he was great. Well, the safdies, you know, and the safdies made Marty supreme. And it was very much in that vein of being manic and weird and crazy and great and all of those things and maddening.

[Kevin Frazier]

And I mean, Marty supreme went from, oh, my gosh, everybody loves this movie, to like, no one was talking about.

[Dan Patrick]

I still love the movie.

[Kevin Frazier]

We got to the Oscars, but I'm saying the talk, the chatter, the buzz died.

[Paulie]

Was there. Is there Timothee Chalamet fatigue in Hollywood?

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know if it's fatigue. I think the way that they went about marketing the movie started to tank near the end because they did this unconventionally. So what he did was he marketed. He didn't do interviews with traditional media. He went to. He went the sports route, though. And he went to all like this. He went to Melo's podcast and he did, you know, ESP shows and he did that. And so I don't think his campaign was targeted to the Oscar voters as much as it should have been. Although I thought the marketing of the movie. He was everywhere. He just wasn't where the voters were.

[Kevin Frazier]

Right. I think that's the perfect point that the traditional media, he walked by the traditional media at every one of the award shows, did not stop to talk, did not do the interviews.

[Dan Patrick]

And I think we talked to him in Palm Springs.

[Kevin Frazier]

But I mean, literally after Palm Springs, what did he say?

[Dan Patrick]

Did nothing.

[Paulie]

Okay.

[Kevin Frazier]

Yeah, he did nothing. Wild to watch.

[Paulie]

Is it a sports movie?

[Dan Patrick]

No, no, I think it is. No, absolutely. I'll disagree with you on that. It's a movie about ping pong. It's a movie about life. It's a movie about ambition. It's a movie a little bit about narcissism and, and you know, how you show up in the world. But it definitely is a sports movie

[Kevin Frazier]

for the love of the game. Bingo Longs, Traveling all Stars and Motor Kings. I mean, you can name a lot of movies that are about sports. Sports. I don't think this one, Ping pong feels like the backdrop almost to the manic craziness.

[Paulie]

Yeah, but all of these sports movies, Kevin, are not about sports. Bull Durham is not about minor league baseball. Hooers is about Field of Dreams is not about baseball.

[Kevin Frazier]

But it weaves the sport in, in a way that is different than this movie. The sport of, I think, spin ping pong in. I think that when you sit down and you watch, I mean, look, I still, every time, every time I watch for the love of the game, I still, I love it. Watching, you know, him on the mound and the way they weave the game and in the names and all that stuff, I think that's different than how Marty Supreme.

[Dan Patrick]

Kevin's a traditionalist in that way. You and I see, we can think outside the box.

[Paulie]

Thank you, Michelle. Why didn't Sean Penn show up?

[Dan Patrick]

Well, the New York Times reports that he went to Ukraine.

[Marvin]

Right.

[Dan Patrick]

Our reporting from his rep was just that he's out of the country. Some people think he just didn't want to show. You know, he hasn't really showed up for much since the Golden Globes this season. But I will stand 10 toes down on the Fact that Sean Penn gave the best performance on camera in any movie this year. It was that good. And he deserved the Oscar. I think it was ridiculous. He wasn't there, but he deserved the

[Paulie]

Oscar for playing the best acting role. And it's not even close, in my opinion. Yeah, go ahead. Ethan Hawke carried that movie from start

[Dan Patrick]

to finish, and he was.

[Paulie]

He was incredible.

[Kevin Frazier]

Jesse Buckley was the best performance of the year.

[Dan Patrick]

I did.

[Kevin Frazier]

Her expressions in Hamnet were incredible.

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[Kevin Frazier]

The end of that movie, that five minutes of her standing at that stage watching, that was incredible art. It was.

[Paulie]

You could.

[Kevin Frazier]

Kevin, you literally could not pull yourself away from the screen.

[Dan Patrick]

That movie, Blue Moon, go. I'm sorry.

[Paulie]

Blue Moon was awesome. I know. You guys got to go. Kevin, how many movies have you. We don't go for it like I'm an actor. Okay, Tell it right. Just saying. I mean, over 20. 20 movies. I'm just saying.

[Kevin Frazier]

Well, I will say this, Dan. Clearly you haven't seen Juana, man, and my great work in that and some of the other movies where I've made cameos. I mean, I thought I was. I thought I was incredible in Girls Trip. I mean, I don't know, Dan. I'm just telling you, man. I. I mean, and from those moments of being on screen and being just pure magic in my eyes, I think that I understand a great performance when I see one.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, none of you can touch a Runaway Bride for Christmas.

[Kevin Frazier]

Well, that's true.

[Paulie]

Hold on.

[Kevin Frazier]

She's had a. She's been a lead. I mean, she just trumped us all.

[Dan Patrick]

Dan, I am Emma McGregor.

[Paulie]

Okay. All right.

[Kevin Frazier]

Wow.

[Dan Patrick]

I get the guy at the end of the movie. Dan. I get the guy.

[Paulie]

Whoa, whoa.

[Kevin Frazier]

Hey, Dan.

[Paulie]

What?

[Kevin Frazier]

Dan, who wins? Who wins in Dayton on Tuesday night, Howard or umbc?

[Paulie]

I'm going. I hope Howard does.

[Kevin Frazier]

I didn't ask you.

[Paulie]

That's your heart. I'm asking your head. Umbc.

[Kevin Frazier]

Thanks.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, Dan, who wins? Who wins on Friday in St. Louis, Miami or Missouri?

[Paulie]

Missouri.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, baby.

[Paulie]

Yeah.

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[Paulie]

I mean, my God.

[Kevin Frazier]

He loves you now. Oh, my God. The way he.

[Paulie]

I love Michelle.

[Kevin Frazier]

Michelle, are you putting him in a movie? Is he in a Lifetime movie?

[Dan Patrick]

Would you like to be my next leading man in my next Lifetime Christmas movie?

[Paulie]

Absolutely.

[Dan Patrick]

We have to kiss now.

[Paulie]

Only once.

[Dan Patrick]

Twice.

[Paulie]

Okay. All right, open mouth.

[Kevin Frazier]

What is happening here? What's happening? What's happening to the show, Dan? What is happening? Just tell me.

[Paulie]

Okay?

[Kevin Frazier]

That's all I want to know. We go from who's going to win the Howard.

[Paulie]

Umbc.

[Kevin Frazier]

Game to open mouth kissing with Michelle. What the hell is going on?

[Paulie]

Thank you, guys.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, Dan, see you later.

[Paulie]

Love you always. What just happened?

[Michelle Turner]

I got wild.

[Seaton]

Wow.

[Paulie]

Wow. Kevin Frazier. Nichelle Turner. Entertainment Tonight. Good. Thank you, baby. By the way, Michelle's one of the nicest people you'll ever meet. I mean, Kevin's a nice guy, but Michelle. Nobody says anything negative about Michelle. Ah, that took a turn. Turner, Michelle. Turner. See what I did, Tom?

[Todd]

Very clever. It's those hot dogs that got you.

[Paulie]

I know. I've had two hot dogs this year. You know, hot dog is the kind of thing you eat and you're going, damn, this tastes good. And yet you immediately feel regret where you go, why did I eat that hot dog?

[Todd]

I think nitrates are good for creativity.

[Paulie]

I just googled White Castles. Where you go, man, they're gonna taste good, too. Why don't I eat six of those?

[Kevin Frazier]

Dang.

[Paulie]

Eric and Oregon. Hi, Eric. What's on your mind today?

[Caller]

Good morning, Dan. Just had a quick best and worst of the weekend. Best of the weekend, got to take the family up to Portland and participate in the Portland Shamrock Run. Ended up scoring one of my best times in the half marathon in about five years. And worst of the weekend, watching KU get trounced by Houston.

[Paulie]

Yeah. And I watch. Well, I started watching, and then I was like, wow, this isn't going to end well. It's kind of like the Yukon St. John's game where you're going, all right, I'm locked in. I'm watching with UConn grads, and they're all, oh, we're excited, man. Last time we faced him, we crushed him, and it's 10 nothing. And then all of a sudden, it got quieter. Quieter. Brett in Florida. Hi, Brett. What's on your mind today?

[Caller]

Hey, D.P. how are you?

[Paulie]

Great.

[Caller]

Always great to talk to you. I want to say hello to Brian and Rickster real quick in North Carolina. They're listening right now. Best of the weekend, Hofstra University. My alumni, led by speedy Claxton legend, will be playing in Tampa, so I don't need to drive too far to see them play. That's awesome.

[Paulie]

I know.

[Caller]

It's awesome. And worse of the weekend, Austin Wells is on the Dominican Republic. I mean, I don't know. I was blown away by that. And I also have a pie to the face. Bet anyone in the building brgs, I don't care. The Dolphins will have a better record than the New York Jets. Your boy Rich Eisen even said to Julian Edelman the other day of an interview that it is painful to be a Jets fan. So anyone wants it?

[Paulie]

Well, it is painful to be a Jets fan. I mean, you don't have to have Julian Edelman on to acknowledge that. Anybody want a piece of the Dolphins have a better record than the Jets. I mean, the jets should be better than the Dolphins. Yeah.

[Seaton]

P. The jets were outscored last year by 203 points. They were the only defense.

[Paulie]

Wow.

[Seaton]

In the league that gave up over 500 points.

[Paulie]

And they. And they didn't have an interception.

[Seaton]

Right.

[Paulie]

It's. How many interceptions was the lowest total for an NFL team since they went to 17 games? So prior to none, what was the lowest number? If we can find that out, I'm just curious because it just feels like you could accidentally get 10. Five. You got it, Paulie.

[Seaton]

Yeah. In 2018, the 49ers only had two. That was the record before then. Before that it was the Houston Oilers in 82, had three picks, setting records.

[Todd]

The Jets.

[Paulie]

Rich in Athens. Hi, Rich.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

All right.

[Caller]

So as always, sitting here with my puppy dog, Fritzi.

[Paulie]

Thank you.

[Caller]

Todd Conan is my number one seed celebrity. He is one of my favorites. I've watched all of his material throughout the years, but Tonight show and the Late show and his podcast. And so I'm just kind of wondering for you, Dan, and all of them, who is the number one seed for your, you know, your go to comedy, your late night, your. Your celebrity that you just have to watch what they're doing?

[Paulie]

Well, I always keep an eye on Sandler because then I can always ask him if I'm going to be in the next movie whenever I see him. So it's basically, I'm always, he's always under surveillance for me. But as far as late night host, I guess you're asking with Conan, I don't, I don't stay up and watch late night TV like that anymore. And most of those shows, I'm guessing their audiences are based on the clips that they show, you know, digital clips that they push out all day. But I, I respect every one of those guys for what they do, how they do it, to do it five nights a week. And, you know, there's part of you that, you know, how political do you get? How political do you not get the balance that you kind of have to have? I mean, I watch Fallon and he's as talented as anybody on tv. And Colbert made the switch and, and did a great job. Kimmel. Very funny. You know, going back to the man show and him and Adam Corolla and so, you know, Jon Stewart's still doing it, but I, I just don't, I don't stay up. I'll see clips.

[Todd]

Yes, Todd, the last one I found consistently funny was, and it was worth even staying up till 12:30 to 1:30 in the morning was Letterman to me between the interviews and just almost everything he did, it was just, I just found it start to finish. That was someone that was to me very, very clever. And that was like a must watch show to see later.

[Paulie]

Yeah, yeah, of course it was. And he was doing something different. You know, the stupid human tricks and pet tricks and all of that, even his approach to interviewing people and very quirky. I mean, truly a quirky guy when you're around him. But, you know, had that ability to be able to. Very bright, you know, I mean, I go back to Carson, you know, just how he was. He just did it and he wasn't afraid to be the butt of a joke. And I think that's, that's important too. Even hosting this, you can't be, you know, above everybody. You got to blend in, you got to get dirty sometimes. You got to make fun of yourself. And I think Letterman was able to do that. Johnny Carson did that a lot. Made fun of himself. Yes.

[Marvin]

Marvin, was Johnny Carson as famous of an American as anybody?

[Paulie]

Pretty. He was up there. He was a big deal because it

[Marvin]

feels like if you were a big star, you had to go on the Tonight show at least watching clips and old social media clips but you know,

[Paulie]

you're probably getting it 40 million people or so watching these things because he only had three channels and Carson was must see tv. Yeah. Paulie.

[Kevin Frazier]

Yeah.

[Seaton]

You can make the case in the late 70s that Johnny Carson was the most famous American, not the president.

[Paulie]

Yeah.

[Seaton]

You could be three and know who he was.

[Paulie]

Yeah, yeah. But you didn't have social media clips then. You had to stay up and there's three channels. All right, let's take a break. Final results of the poll question what we learned, what's in store tomorrow after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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[Paulie]

I'm Clayton eckerd, and in 2022, I was the lead of ABC's the Bachelor.

[Dan Patrick]

Unfortunately, it didn't go according to plan. He became the first Bachelor to ever have his final rose rejected. The Internet turned on him.

[Seaton]

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[Paulie]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Paulie]

The dating contract.

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[Paulie]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Paulie]

Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store tomorrow. Final results of the poll question. By the way, Todd has a podcast called the Toddcast available every [e-mail] and listening to this past Thursday, Todd was a little disappointed that he does a segment called the Scoreboard and we called it the Snoreboard. And Todd was wondering if he should continue to do that. Is that fair to what you were saying?

[Todd]

I guess so. If it's referred to as the snoreboard. And it's, you know, that I got upset in the moment because, like, it was very loud in the background and I was fighting and then I'm, you know, then I got the control room telling me they could barely hear what I said and I was talking like as loud as I could while there's other things going on. But I'm over it. It's a, it's a small thing. You know, it's all good. But in the moment, I had an opportunity to vent and I took it.

[Paulie]

Okay, but you don't like when people are out there playing basketball while you're doing.

[Todd]

No, I have no problem with anything going on. There could be jugglers, you could bring the woman that does the unicycle with. But it just got particularly loud that day where it just was making me. Was difficult for me to get through it and I couldn't be heard. So that's how I felt in that.

[Paulie]

And then you were also disappointed that Paul is the one that wanted you, encouraged you to do scoreboard and then Paul wants to reclaim that. And then he criticizes you for what you.

[Todd]

He makes some valid points. Because a lot of times I'll go with, you know, there's a lot of things you can do with the scoreboard. And I tend to go with, you know, this date in history kind of thing, which we have a list of and a lot of. Sometimes there's a more than sometimes this overlap, which is unintended.

[Paulie]

Well, the concept was it was a play on numbers initially.

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Right.

[Todd]

It could be a jersey number, it could be a year. It could be a lot of different things. And a lot of times I end up going with a year, which, you know, could bleed into obviously at this date in history situation.

[Paulie]

So you can sing. So I can say, yeah, there's a lot of that.

[Todd]

Yeah. Like, what if I pick like a number one song from that day or that week, then I can sing.

[Paulie]

Yes, you.

[Michelle Turner]

I was just curious if Todd addressed the issue with the people who are being loud.

[Todd]

I think I thought it was so blatantly obvious, I decided to stay with my passive aggressive tone.

[Paulie]

Oh, got it, got it.

[Todd]

It was almost intentional. That's how loud it was. So I just let it go. I was like, you know, I'll deal with it in my own way.

[Paulie]

On your own podcast?

[Marvin]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

So you did it a passive aggressive.

[Todd]

I wasn't even a planned topic or anything like that, which it normally isn't at all. We just kind of wing it. And. And then a question I think was asked of me, that I looked like I was perturbed on that day after doing the snoreboard. So. So I responded to the question that was asked to me. I didn't say to anybody, like, let's make sure we hit this topic or anything.

[Paulie]

Yes, Paul.

[Seaton]

1996, Dan. This day in sports history. Mike Tyson won the WBC heavyweight championship with a TKO of Frank Bruno in round three. I think you saw that earlier on the scoreboard. And in 1964, Paul Hornig and Alex Karras, star NFL players, were reinstated to the league after 11th month suspension for betting on football games on this date.

[Paulie]

2007, Kobe scored 65, including 33 in the fourth quarter and overtime. Lakers beating Portland. Final results of the poll questions today. Seaton.

[Michelle Turner]

No major snubs in the NCAA tournament is a good thing or a bad thing right now, 90% have it as a good thing. Whose acting career would you want? Tom Cruise or Sean Penn? 85% are taking Tom Cruise. And then whose active career would you want here? Harrison Ford or Tom Cruise? Harrison Ford winning that one with about two thirds of the vote.

[Todd]

Okay.

[Paulie]

Yeah, yeah.

[Seaton]

Paul, I keep going back to look at these Kobe Bryant box scores that you've been bringing up the past two weeks. There's a thread, there's a trend. His supporting cast was almost always the same six or seven guys. Chris Mim is always around. Lamar Odom, Smush Parker, Kwame Brown, Andrew Bynum, Jordan Farmer. Help. Help a brother out. Kobe had a two year run where he was on his own.

[Paulie]

Yep. And basically he probably looked, he'd walk out, you know, for the opening tip and you'd be like, you gotta be kidding me. If I don't get 50, we're not, we're not even competitive in this game. Yes. Martin.

[Marvin]

The fact that he scored 80 points only once, that team.

[Paulie]

Yeah. Rhonda in Texas. Hi, Rhonda.

[Caller]

Hi, Dan. Thank you, Danitz, for drawing in your female listeners who absolutely love your show. And I've heard you mention at least twice this morning that you need a secretary. So I'd like to throw in my application and the only compensation in return would be a DVD season set of your show and a Seaton laugh track ringtone.

[Paulie]

Wow. Well, thank you, Rhonda. Yeah. I think Michelle Turner from Entertainment Tonight has applied for that job. I think she needs some Entertainment Tonight.

[Todd]

A lot of chemistry there between you two, I'll tell you.

[Paulie]

Yeah, well, it's just, it's called charisma. That's the Riz is what I have. Kevin Frazier should be nervous. Oh, oh, yeah. I could swoop in and, you know, I retire from here, right? To Entertainment Tonight. Free agent. Yeah, Todd, anything's possible.

[Todd]

Why not?

[Paulie]

Yeah. Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

So you, you're. You're going to be a correspondent in 2028 for Entertainment Tonight, I'm assuming.

[Paulie]

No, no, I'll be a co host. I'll be sitting there in studio.

[Marvin]

So you'll be at the Oscars.

[Paulie]

Yes.

[Marvin]

Okay.

[Paulie]

Yeah. Be on the red carpet.

[Marvin]

You know, that's what you really want to do.

[Paulie]

I think I could do it. I think I could have fun.

[Marvin]

You should do it.

[Paulie]

Yeah, but just, you know, when I'm yelling out to JLo J. Law and all the Mike Michael B. Be yelling at him.

[Seaton]

Yes, Paulie, I think we talked about it a couple years ago. A swap. Don't go there, Fitz. You for Kevin Frazier for one day because Kay Frey has hosted this show, I think twice, at least.

[Paulie]

Yeah. And if you just have me do the studio show, that's not a big deal because that's all that's taped. You know, you screw something up, you just do it again.

[Seaton]

Yeah, Paulie, we're in Los Angeles for eight days next year at the super.

[Paulie]

At the big game.

[Seaton]

Yeah, the big game.

[Paulie]

Yeah. Maybe I could stop by bg. Yeah, the big game.

[Michelle Turner]

You guys heading to the bg, man?

[Paulie]

Going to the big game. Oh, yeah. Carlos Boozer is going to join us on the program tomorrow. That senior boozer, Reggie Miller will join us coming up as well. Kendall in Houston joins us now.

[Caller]

So best and worst. I went to the rodeo last Wednesday night, which goes on for three weeks, and saw Creed in front of 70,000 people, which was incredible. I know y' all like music and stuff, but really, really, really good show. And it was just. It was packed full of a lot of eye candy, I'll tell you that. Anyway, and worse, was that the. The downfall. The guy. Yes. Played in the Tour. I was a. I'm a big fan and I hate to see that, but the bar I was at was screaming, usa.

[Paulie]

Usa. I was like, all right, thank you, Kendall. Yeah, we've tried to get Scott Stamp of Creed on. Why is he avoiding us, Todd?

[Todd]

He'll give in eventually.

[Seaton]

Yeah, Paulie, going back to when we did the super. The world series, like 20 years ago. They were preparing for the national anthem and so forth.

[Paulie]

Yeah.

[Seaton]

We got Andy Garcia on live, Billy Crystal on live, and I went down and asked Scott Stapp, and he said, no, thank you nicely, but he said, no, thank you. And that was peak. Scott Stap.

[Paulie]

Yeah. Yeah, Mars.

[Marvin]

So you welcomed him with arms wide open?

[Paulie]

Yes, yes, I did. I played. I played golf with him long time ago. I don't know if something happened there. Maybe he felt like everybody was making fun of him. Let's go around the room, see what we learned on the program. Todd, what'd you learn today?

[Todd]

Gus in LA literally bumped into a frail, bony Mick Jagger.

[Paulie]

I'll bet Jagger I could lift him up. I bet he weighs maybe 135 pounds. Maybe. Yes. Yeah, I can. I could probably knock him down like a little shove. Not that I would. Ronnie would. Seton, how about you? Best or what'd you learn today?

[Michelle Turner]

Your next movie role might be very interesting.

[Paulie]

A Hallmark movie with Michelle Turner.

[Michelle Turner]

They shoot a lot of those in Connecticut, you know.

[Paulie]

I love it. Marvin, what'd you learn?

[Marvin]

Austin Wells, mother is Dominican.

[Paulie]

Paul, Shh.

[Seaton]

Scoreboard.

[Paulie]

Thanks for the phone calls, everybody. Have a great day. Fritzi Seaton, Marv Polyures. Truly. Talk to you tomorrow.

[Dan Patrick]

This is an I Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.