Hour 3 – LeBron vs. Stephen A., Jason Garrett

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 3: LeBron vs. Stephen A., Jason Garrett
Release Date: March 12, 2025

In the third hour of The Dan Patrick Show, host Dan Patrick delves into a heated discussion surrounding LeBron James and ESPN's Stephen A. Smith, alongside insights from former Cowboys coach Jason Garrett. This episode navigates through the controversies of sports influence, player evaluations, and strategic decisions within the NFL.

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Stephen A. Smith's Critique of LeBron James

The conversation kicks off with a robust debate sparked by Stephen A. Smith's recent commentary on LeBron James. Stephen A. openly criticized LeBron for leveraging his influence to secure a spot for his son, Bronny James, on the Los Angeles Lakers' roster. This move has ignited discussions about nepotism and the implications of high-profile athletes using their status to benefit family members in professional sports.

At 10:46, Stephen A. remarks:

"I'm pleading with LeBron James as a father, stop this. Stop this."
— Stephen A. Smith

Greg Rosenthal expresses skepticism about Smith's approach, questioning the necessity of intertwining personal parental roles with professional sports decisions. He challenges the conflation of sports strategy with parenting by stating:

"When you say it in that dramatic flair, then all of a sudden, this is such a big deal."
— Greg Rosenthal at 17:44

Daniel Jeremiah adds depth to the discussion by highlighting Bronny's current standing:

"LeBron's son is on the Lakers acting like he's the 55th player drafted. He's doing what the 55th pick does."
— Daniel Jeremiah at 17:21

The debate underscores the tension between leveraging personal relationships and maintaining meritocratic standards within professional sports teams.

Jason Garrett on NFL Strategies and Player Evaluations

Bringing a fresh perspective to the show, former Cowboys coach Jason Garrett joins the panel to discuss several pressing NFL topics, including the potential acquisition of Aaron Rodgers by the Pittsburgh Steelers and the evolving value of the running back position.

Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers

Garrett offers his expert opinion on whether the Steelers should pursue Aaron Rodgers to fill their quarterback needs, especially in light of J.J. McCarthy's recent injury. At 27:05, Garrett advises against bringing in a high-profile quarterback like Rodgers, emphasizing the importance of fostering an environment where the current quarterback can develop without overshadowing.

"I think you probably want to have a more traditional veteran backup who can go in and play for short periods of time."
— Jason Garrett at 27:26

He contrasts this approach with the successful partnership seen between Matt LaFleur and Rodgers in Green Bay, suggesting that any potential move should respect the team's strategic direction rather than disrupt it with a superstar quarterback.

The Running Back Position's Resurgence

Garrett also champions the significance of the running back role in modern football, countering trends that have diminished its perceived value. He references his tenure with the Cowboys, where robust running strategies led to multiple Super Bowl victories. At 28:07, he states:

"The running back never left my mind, and I want to be one of those guys."
— Jason Garrett at 28:07

Garrett criticizes the New England Patriots' influence on the position's valuation, asserting the enduring impact a strong running game has on overall team performance.

Draft Decisions: Dak Prescott vs. Connor Cook

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around Garrett's drafting decisions, particularly the selection of Dak Prescott over Connor Cook. At 33:23, Garrett reflects:

"What you got to be careful of is talking about reminds me of one of the greatest players ever to play in the NFL."
— Jason Garrett at 33:36

He narrates the rigorous evaluation process that led to Prescott's selection, highlighting Prescott's mental fortitude and accountability following a DUI incident before the draft. This anecdote underscores Garrett's emphasis on character and resilience in player assessments.

"He was phenomenal. I can't tell you how good he is. Mentally, he's just off the charts."
— Jason Garrett at 43:39

Garrett's decision to prioritize Prescott ultimately paid off, as Prescott delivered an outstanding rookie season, reinforcing the importance of thorough vetting and believing in a player's potential beyond initial setbacks.

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Conclusion

Hour 3 of The Dan Patrick Show presents a dynamic exploration of the intersections between personal relationships and professional decisions in sports. Through intense discussions on Stephen A. Smith's critique of LeBron James and Jason Garrett's strategic insights into the NFL, listeners gain a comprehensive understanding of the complexities that shape today's sports landscape. The episode effectively balances controversy with expert analysis, providing valuable perspectives for sports enthusiasts and casual listeners alike.

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Notable Quotes:

• Stephen A. Smith at 10:46: "I'm pleading with LeBron James as a father, stop this. Stop this."

• Greg Rosenthal at 17:44: "When you say it in that dramatic flair, then all of a sudden, this is such a big deal."

• Daniel Jeremiah at 17:21: "LeBron's son is on the Lakers acting like he's the 55th player drafted. He's doing what the 55th pick does."

• Jason Garrett at 27:26: "I think you probably want to have a more traditional veteran backup who can go in and play for short periods of time."

• Jason Garrett at 28:07: "The running back never left my mind, and I want to be one of those guys."

• Jason Garrett at 43:39: "He was phenomenal. I can't tell you how good he is. Mentally, he's just off the charts."

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the main themes and discussions of the episode, providing listeners with a clear and engaging overview of the key points addressed during the show.

Transcript

[Greg Rosenthal]

What's up, everyone? It's Greg Rosenthal, and I'm teaming up with the King of Spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that we're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season. From DJs mock drafts to my top 101, free agents will have it covered for you with all new episodes every Thursday keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL Draft. Listen to 40s and free agents starting on March 6th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Larison Campbell]

In Mississippi, Yazoo clay keeps secrets.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

7,000 bodies out there or more.

[Larison Campbell]

A forgotten asylum, cemetery.

[Greg Rosenthal]

It was my family's mystery.

[Larison Campbell]

Shame, guilt, propriety. Something keeps it all buried deep until it's not. I'm Larison Campbell, and this is under Yazoo Clay. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Greg Rosenthal]

What's up, everyone?

[Larison Campbell]

Julie Swerbinks here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson.

[Greg Rosenthal]

We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go.

[Larison Campbell]

The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right? Exactly.

[Larison Campbell]

And you'll never know who will drop by to join us.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe.

[Larison Campbell]

Listen to EnergyLine with Nate and JSB on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Hey, you guys. I'm Katherine Legge. I'm a racing driver who's literally driven everything with four wheels across the planet. And I've got a new podcast. It's called Throttle Therapy. This season, I'm competing in some of the world's most notorious racing events. Tune into my new podcast, Throttle Therapy, with Katherine Legg, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment.

[Larison Campbell]

You can find us on the iHeartRadio.

[Greg Rosenthal]

App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports, I'm Maura Ahrensmiele, host of the Anxious Achiever on the show. Business leaders and experts unpack the intersection of mental well being, neurodiversity, leadership and career. We offer tools and strategies to enjoy better mental health and find the best way to work for you. Listen to the Anxious achiever on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick.

[Jason Garrett]

Show On Fox Sports Radio.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Final hour in this Wednesday, we'll talk to the former Cowboy coach Jason Garrett. Last night, Horizon league Robert Morris advances the CAA UNC Wilmington, the NEC St. Francis of Pennsylvania and WCC Gonzaga. Tonight you have a couple of automatic berths available. The Southland, It's Lamar and McNeese State, Patriot League, Navy versus American University, and the Big Sky, Montana versus Northern Colorado. All right, couple things. No real movement. No updates here on what's going on with the Pittsburgh Steelers and New York Giants when it comes to Aaron Rodgers. Deandre Hopkins to the Ravens, which would have been a really big deal like seven years ago. Joey Bosa to Buffalo, that is a big deal. And Cavaliers have won 15 in a row. They're so good they're forcing networks to actually talk about the Cavaliers. I love it. 15 consecutive wins and they are off to a historical start. They're 55 and 10. That is tied for the fifth best record through 65 games in NBA history.

[Greg Rosenthal]

This is the start of the day.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, that's our streaming partner, Garage Sale. It's inventory time. We're clearing everything out. Go to danpatrick.com some great sales going on. Big Ten Big East Men's basketball tournaments. Tipping off live today exclusively on Peacock. Gangs all here ready to go. Final hour. 877-3DP Show Poll Question for the final hour of the program. Seaton.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Well, last hour we had up there. Whose career would you rather have? Bobby Hurley or Danny Hurley? Right now, 53% of the audience saying Bobby Hurley. It's pretty good. Pretty close. I think that. I think we're right that maybe people have forgotten just how huge duke was 30 years ago or whatever. That that was a massive four year run.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah, but maybe they didn't like Duke.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yeah, well, I didn't like Duke. But looking back now, it's like, man, that was a hell of an accomplishment.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

They were a deal that big deal back then. Yeah, absolutely.

[Greg Rosenthal]

We also had up there free agent quarterback you would sign. Right now, Aaron Rodgers has 37% of that audience, followed by Russell Wilson, Gardner Minshew and Jameis Winston. Not really in this one.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah, I didn't think they would be.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yeah, ye. Yeah, that's not.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And I think it would be a sneaky little pickup if the Browns got Kirk Cousins. All you want is stability. If you're a bad team, at least give me something that's stable. You know, the Raiders bringing in Geno Smith, I thought it was a really good decision. He can be there for a couple of years. If you, you draft Ashton Genti, you got a really good running back, you got a really good tight end, you got Max Crosby and maybe a new direction for this team. Now, I don't know if that would preclude them from maybe if Shador Sanders fell in their lap and they took him instead of Ashton Genty, the running back. But out of Boise State, I don't, you know, not quite sure. And it's the lying season right now. Nobody's going to tell you the truth, what they're doing. I'm assuming Tennessee is taking Cam Ward, but do the Giants give them an offer that they can't refuse? What's Cleveland do it too? If you, if you got your quarterback, let's say in Kirk Cousins or maybe you got Russell Wilson, I don't know. I wouldn't rule that out. But you know, the Colts reportedly they tried to entertain the idea of bringing Sam Darnold. Now you bring in Danny Dimes and, and there's. There was a lot of Talk yesterday and McAfee's show talked about, you know, if you're Anthony Richardson, demand a trade. You're 22, you got, you got no business demanding anything. You can go in there and say, hey, is it best if I go and try to find, you know, another place? You know, what's my future here is Daniel Jones is coming in to compete. He is coming in to be the starting quarterback. And it's not like you're bringing in Joe Montana. If you're Anthony Richardson, now's the time you need to grow up. Not let me run away from the problem, attack the problem, win the job. They, you know, management has their butt on the line. They went all in on you and drafted you a lot higher than a lot of people had you graded.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yeah, Paulie, you've always said sometimes you call a player a bust. Anthony Richardson didn't draft himself fourth overall. He got benched at Florida his last year. There he was a spotty at best college passer who had these unbelievable running and long distance highlights. Sounds like what he did last year with the Colts. Every couple of weeks he would have this great highlight. But then he's a 46% passer.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Well, what is going to hang with him linger is him asking out of a game, like he has to overcome that. He has to say, hey, that's not who I am. But he's only 22 and I, I mean that is so young I mean, used to be quarterbacks got their chances to play when they were 24, 25, 26, 22. He acts like it. He plays like it. But if you saw enough to draft him, then see this all the way through. Give him another year, but make him earn the job. You bring in Daniel Jones. Great. I think it's a great decision by the Colts. Bring him in now. Anthony Richardson. Now show me who you are. 877-3-DP Show Email Address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter Handle @DP Show Congrats to Dave Roberts, the Dodgers manager. They extended his contract. Looks like Arizona State is keeping Bobby Hurley. Another losing season for asu. And that's why we were bringing up the poll question of would you rather have Bobby Hurley's career or Danny Hurley's career? Certainly, I said Danny, because it's now and it's continuing where Bobby is holding on to a thread to keep his job. But what he did when he was at duke in the 90s pretty much unsurpassed, unmatched with how great they were and how great he was. But. And then we brought up Macaulay Cken and Kieran Culkin, of course, as most shows will do. Kieran Culkin, big deal. Now Macaulay Culkin, one of the biggest childhood movie stars that we've had in our lifetime. Yes. Marvin.

[Greg Rosenthal]

And I also forgot Bobby Hurley was on the one team that did beat the Dream Team.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Okay.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Oh, watch the documentary, by the way. We beat the Dream Team on Max.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah, very.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Bobby Hurley was running through those guys. They didn't have anybody to guard him.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. But it's. I don't know how big a deal.

[Greg Rosenthal]

A win is a win. A win is a win. A win is a win. Greatest team ever assembled.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Okay. All right. Yes.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Todd and Coach K in that documentary swears that they let them win. They. That they didn't have Michael Jordan playing very much. And Chuck Daly didn't make switches that he normally would if it was a game that meant something.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Okay. They didn't play their hardest. If we played our hardest, then they wouldn't have had a chance. Thank you, coach. Yeah.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I go back every once in a while on NBA TV and watch the Dream Team documentary. And my favorite note is that Chuck Daly didn't use a timeout during the entire Olympics. Get this going.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I would have called a timeout to say, hey, we haven't called a timeout. I just wanted to call one. I wanted to get a little TV time here.

[Greg Rosenthal]

What a funny. Like, I don't know if that's a stat or, like, nugget or whatever, but they didn't call a timeout the entire Olympics. That's. That's hilarious.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Stephen A. Smith, ESPN first take host, has had a lot of things to say about LeBron James. And can. Can we bring up. Do you have the original. This is what Stephen A. Said. Was this about a month ago, Marvin. What was it?

[Greg Rosenthal]

January 29th.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Okay, so January 29th, Stephen A. Said this on his show on First Take.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I'm really, really trying to be as respectful as I possibly can be towards LeBron James, one of the top two or three players in the history of basketball. Number two in my eyes, a treasure to the game of basketball that we should and will all miss when he is gone. I am pleading with LeBron James as a father, stop this. Stop this.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Okay? He's referring to Bronnie being out on the floor against the 76ers. And Tyrese Maxey embarrassed him. Truly embarrassed him. I don't know why Stephen A. Has to give us the resume of LeBron. I thought that was kind of blabbering. Just get to the point. You're bothered by LeBron that he put his son in this situation where he's getting embarrassed on tv. Yes, Paulie.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yeah, and it feels like Stephen A. And he referenced it the other day when he recapped this. He was talking about the entire past year as well, the efforts to get Bronnie James on the Lakers, etc. Etc.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

All right, so Stephen A. Was on Gilbert Arena's podcast, Gill's arena, and had this to say about a run in with LeBron on the sidelines recently. And Stephen A. Was asked about that.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I thought it was weak. I thought it was some bull.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Okay, first of all, it's not weak because week would have been tweeting something out. He confronted you, so that's not weak. He didn't push him or anything. There were words exchanged. And then Stephen A. Had this to say about LeBron James.

[Greg Rosenthal]

You said my son. I wasn't. Let's talk about you. I was talking about you. Wasn't yet one. About your son. I know he's number 55. I know he got work to do. I believe that he got potential. I believe that he got the potential to go pro. I truly believe that's gonna be tough.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I think he could pull it off.

[Greg Rosenthal]

And by the way, I'm rooting for him. I ain't rooting against nobody, but I was talking about your ass. You. You did this. You. The One that had us as reporters, as a league, as an NBA franchise. All of us got to sit back and be quiet and capitulate to y'all.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Okay? So Stephen A. Is. He's all fired up talking about LeBron, LeBron, the father and what he did to his son. Get him on the Lakers. It's not like LeBron sent his son to Afghanistan. His son is on the Lakers acting like he's the 55th player drafted. He's a bench player. He goes back and forth to the G League. And, oh, by the way, how many guys have been embarrassed by Tyrese Maxi in an NBA game? Quite a few. It just felt. Felt like it was over and above what needed to be said. We all. We all understand. Bronnie Brownie's not going to be in the league when LeBron retires. He's just not good enough to play. He can be a G League guy. Should have stayed another year at usc, but his dad is probably saying, I don't know how much longer I'm going to play. I want to play with you. This has been his goal. He was able to pull strings, and he was able to make this happen. People had a problem with that. A son wanting to play with his father. I'm going to use, you know, all my cachet. And he was able to do that. He wants to be around his son. By all accounts, his son was raised properly and seems like a really, really good kid. But when you start talking about somebody's parenting, like, that's where it felt like it was. Know if I'm LeBron, that's a trigger point where you're like, okay, now. Now you're questioning me as a father. That would be the problem that I would have with this. And he's saying it in such a dramatic way, it'll fall off. I mean, come on. I mean, Bronnie's doing okay. I going to get his ass kicked a little bit. So what, do I blame JJ Redick for putting him out there? Do I say to LeBron, LeBron, I don't want him out there on Tyrese Maxi. I mean, there's culpability here. There's blame to go around. But, you know, Stephen A. Showing up, and LeBron is going to say something to you in person that's not weak. Weak would have been tweeting it out or having somebody from your management company, your agency reach out to Stephen A. But we make it seem. And I brought this up. I don't know. Did Stephen A. Say to Michael Jordan, I'm Pleading with you be a better father. Your son got pulled over for driving under the influence and he's a 30 year old man. No, he didn't. Is LeBron. I mean, is this, you know, bad parenting? Yeah, Paul.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I'm okay with STEPHEN A critiquing LeBron's basketball decisions. And one of his basketball decisions was working the Lakers to get them to add his son to the roster. So as long as it stays in that lane of we're critiquing a sports move here or a sports decision, which I think he is. That word father. I Bet you bothered LeBron a lot, just like you said. But if he said LeBron made a mistake and shouldn't be using his influence to change a Laker roster for an inferior player. Yeah, A lot of people have said that wouldn't be the first.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And I agree with that. LeBron was going to put an inferior product on the bench, maybe playing in games. Now he's not going to be playing in important games, but somebody lost their spot because Bronnie's going to be on the bench. Bronnie and I got to see him in the limited time at usc and he was nowhere near the best player on his own team. The G League. He's had a couple of moments there. He's just not ready for this. LeBron wants him to be able. He wants to be able to play with him. I understand that he wants to be around his son. There are worse things. Did he use, you know, his power? Yes, he did. I mean, parents do that all the time. You might try to help them get into usc. Hypothetically, you might try to help your kids get into usc. Now, the father part of it, that's. That's what would be the trigger for LeBron James. Yes. Marvin, you.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yeah. Night one when they did the whole playing together thing. Yeah, I was kind of thrown off by that. But now Bronnie's doing what? The 55th pick in the NBA draft. He's doing what they do, playing really good basketball in the G League and sitting the bench in the NBA. So he's doing what the 55th pick does. It's not like he's. He was the 17th pick and Dalton Connect was there. He's the 55th pick. Name, name another 55th pick. I'll wait.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah, I mean, I don't know what people expected, you know, should he have been the 55th pick? You can make an argument. No, he shouldn't have. He shouldn't have been drafted. Yes.

[Greg Rosenthal]

There are a lot of truly terrible fathers in the world who do awful, awful, awful things. I would imagine not getting your son into the NBA to play for the Lakers is probably pretty far down on the list of horrible things you could do as a father. I mean, as a father, you've got to stop doing this.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Like what?

[Greg Rosenthal]

He's playing for the Lakers? How?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. Wow.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yeah. That's really crappy parenting.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

He got it. Okay. If he didn't get embarrassed by Tyrese Maxey, would Stephen A. Have said this? Because I watched it, and yes, Bronnie had no business out there, but Tyrese Maxey is one of the top 20 players in the game. You know, Bronnie is at the end of the bench. Should he have been out there? No. Did LeBron say to J.J. redick, hey, can you put him out there, Ben, I have a problem with it. J.J. redick's got to run a team. He's not running LeBron's team. You got to prove that this is your team. And if you put him in because Bron said put in my son, I. Then I have a problem with that.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yes, Mark, I do remember that post game. After that game, J.J. redick, Bronnie had a couple of good games. He said, oh, you know, let me just put him out there, just see what he can do. I said, the South Bay Lakers, That's a whole different animal than Tyrese Maxey.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yes.

[Greg Rosenthal]

He wasn't playing nobody this good.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But I don't. I don't think this is. Makes him a bad parent. It may make his basketball decisions questionable because this is putting an inferior product out there while you guys were struggling at the time or we didn't know how good the Lakers were going to be. Yes, Ton, but if you're not dramatic.

[Greg Rosenthal]

And viral about it and making a whole big deal about it, the whole thing, he could have easily said, there's a million ways you could say, talk about nepotism. What is Bronnie doing out there? And then you move on to 50 other stories. But when you say it in that dramatic flair, then all of a sudden, this is such a big.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Well, no, Stephen. A's an entertainer. Let's make no mistake about it. That's what this is. He's entertaining people. If he would have said, you can't put him out there, Tyrese Maxey, you know, totally. You toasted him. And then you move on to something else, then nobody cares. But to say it in a breathless way, that's the entertainer gambling.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I did go back and look at the draft, to be fair. And the Lakers taking Bronnie at 55. They passed on Ulrich Comachi, who's averaging 0.7 points per game for Memphis. Big mistake by that, but is his.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Dad on the Memphis team?

[Greg Rosenthal]

I am checking.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Okay.

[Greg Rosenthal]

See if he's Mr. Kamachi. Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

To you. Yes.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Plus, if you look at the Lakers roster, they have 24 players listed. And in terms of, like, minutes, you know, average minutes, say Bronnie is 23rd out of 24th. So I. I mean, come on. Wait, he's not starting. You know, he's not.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Who's. You know who's 24th in minutes on the Laker bench?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Maxwell Lewis. He got jobs.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah, well, his dad's not good enough to be in the NBA, so he gets some playing time. Got to get my son in. Can Maxi get some run here? I think I got to be a little bit more breathless when I deliver things like that. That's how you go viral.

[Greg Rosenthal]

So as a father. As a father.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

As a father.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I know you didn't talk about me as a father.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. No, Marvin, you can't say that.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Which is better as a father that your dad getting your kid to play for the Lakers or completely ignoring that they exist publicly? Whole questions. He didn't say, like he was on drugs or anything.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

No. Ronnie's a good kid.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Yeah. You know that goat son isn't on. Never mind.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Take a break here. Let's take a break. We're gonna talk to Jason Garrett. If you want to sign loan from NBC, we're back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Hey, it's Steve Covino.

[Greg Rosenthal]

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

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[Larison Campbell]

There's a type of soil in Mississippi called Yazoo Clay. It's thick, burnt orange, and it's got a reputation.

[Greg Rosenthal]

It's terrible, terrible dirt.

[Larison Campbell]

Yazoo clay eats everything, so things that get buried there tend to stay buried until they're not in 2012, construction crews at Mississippi's biggest hospital made a shocking discovery.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

7,000 bodies out there or more, all.

[Larison Campbell]

Former patients of the old state asylum, and nobody knew they were there.

[Greg Rosenthal]

It was my family's mystery.

[Larison Campbell]

But in this corner of the south, it's not just the soil that keeps secrets.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Nobody talks about it. Nobody has any information.

[Larison Campbell]

When you peel back the layers of Mississippi's Yazoo Clay, nothing's ever as simple as you think.

[Jason Garrett]

The story is much more complicated and nuanced than that.

[Larison Campbell]

Larry I'm Larison Campbell. Listen to under yazukle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

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[Jason Garrett]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

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[Jason Garrett]

Brains, but EQ is do you trust me? Do I communicate well?

[Greg Rosenthal]

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

Are you responsive to people?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Do people know you have a heart.

[Jason Garrett]

Develop the team, develop the people, create a system of trust.

[Greg Rosenthal]

And it works over time. I'm Dan Roth, LinkedIn's editor in chief. On my podcast this Is Working, leaders like Jamie Dimon, Mark Cuban, and Richard Branson share strategies for success and the real lessons that have shaped them. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Larison Campbell]

What's up y'all? I'm A.J. andrews, pro softball player, sports analyst, and the first woman to win a Rollins Gold Glove. On my new podcast, Dropping Diamonds. We dive headfirst into the world of softball by sharing powerful stories, insights and conversations that inspire and empower. Softball is growing fast and I'm going to help you keep up with the speed of the game and the athletes that play it. If you are an old or new fan looking to learn more about your favorite players or coaches and hear about their journeys and processes to success, this podcast is an exciting and invaluable resource for anyone interested in the complexities of excellence on the softball diamond. Softball is a game of failure and pressure situations. But lucky for all the fabulous softball players and fans, pressure makes diamonds and it's time to drop some bombs and diamonds on and off the softball diamond. Dropping diamonds with A.J. andrews is an Athletes Unlimited Softball League production in partnership with iHeart Women's Sports and Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. Listen to dropping diamonds with AJ Andrews starting March 17 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Catch Jon Stewart back in action on.

[Greg Rosenthal]

The Daily show and in your ears with the Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. From his hilarious satirical takes on today's politics and entertainment to the unique voices of correspondence and contributors, it's your perfect companion to stay on top of what's happening now. Plus, you'll get special content just for podcast listeners, like in depth interviews and a roundup of the week's top headlines. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Former Head Coach of the Cowboys, NBC Football Night in America Analyst Notre Dame Football Analyst Always great to see Jason Garrett back on the program. Coach, Good to talk to you again. Let me put you in the Minnesota Vikings situation. J.J. mcCarthy coming off an injury, would you entertain the idea of bringing in Aaron Rodgers?

[Jason Garrett]

I don't like that decision for them right now. I think you want to create a an atmosphere and environment for JJ McCarthy to be the quarterback of your team, and I don't think you want to have a guy who's as Accomplished as Aaron has been throughout his career. I think you probably want to have a more traditional veteran backup who can go in and play for short periods of time. I think Aaron Rodgers wants to be a quarterback of one of the 32 teams. I don't think he wants to be a backup. And I think you made that decision with pick 10 last year, that JJ McCarthy is going to be your guy and I think you stick with it and create a great environment for him.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

What are the Steelers doing or what should they do?

[Jason Garrett]

I think they should really entertain going to get Aaron Rodgers. I really do. He played better when he was healthier at the end of last year. For me, when you analyze his career, a really interesting crossroads came when Matt LaFleur was hired as the head coach of the Packers. And Aaron had done things a certain way in the system for a long time. And Matt LaFleur had come from an offense where they were under center more with the quarterback. They ran the ball, play action maybe a little different than Aaron wanted to play. And I think there was probably some tension between those two guys early on, but eventually they kind of settled that, hey, we're going to do some things that Aaron does well. We're also going to do some things that I want to do as the head coach. I want to run the ball, I want to run play action stuff from under center. And they got to that marriage and I think that worked out well for them. And so in Pittsburgh, I would try to do the same thing. I would not do what the jets did and say, Aaron, you're the quarterback, but you're also the offensive coordinator and let's play GM2 and you bring your guys in, I would fit them in and say, hey, this is the way we want to play in Pittsburgh. We want to play great defense, we want to run the ball, play action, pass. And oh, by the way, we're going to create an environment for you, Aaron Rodgers, to do what you do best. And I would blend it that way. And I think at 41 years old, Aaron Rodgers would embrace that. I think he'd embrace maybe taking some of the burden off of him to do everything every snap like he did for a long time. I think he would understand playing for one of these incredible foundational teams in the Pittsburgh Steelers like he did with the Packers. I think he'd embrace that. And I think if he could fit into how they want to play, I think it could be a good marriage.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I'm wondering if you had contact with somebody before you signed them in free agency. Legally. But like Mike Tomlin, if you're Mike Tomlin, would you reach out to Aaron Rodgers and say, let's not waste time here. If we can help each other, great. Did you ever do that as the head coach of the Cowboys? To reach out to say, I need to get an idea where you are right now?

[Jason Garrett]

Well, I think you have to be really careful with tampering rules and all of that. I think everybody knows with how these free agency rules and logistics have changed in recent years that they have this dead period. So a lot of people talking in the dead period, but I think you got to be careful about being direct. But I do think there are representatives that can talk to representatives, can talk to representatives to get the idea out that, hey, we want you in Pittsburgh. What's your interest?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Is it a resurgence of the running back position?

[Jason Garrett]

Well, not in my mind. The running back position never left in my mind, and I don't want to be one of those guys, but I've been banging this drum forever. You know, I played for the Cowboys for eight years, and we won three Super Bowls. And our running back was Emmitt Smith, the leading rusher in NFL history. And I just saw the impact that he made on the entire team. The ability to run the football with a guy like that. We handed the ball to him 25 times a game. He made the offensive line better, and the offensive line was really good. He made the quarterback better, and the quarterback was really good. He made the receivers better, the tight ends better. He made the defense better, and all of those guys made him better. And it was just the way to play football. And we won three Super Bowls in four years. And I haven't changed from that. You know, when I became the head coach of the Cowboys, that's the kind of team we wanted to build. We drafted linemen, we drafted running backs. You know, DeMarco Murray in 2014 led the league in rushing. Oh, by the way, it happened to be Tony Romo's best year as a pro. Dak Prescott in 2016 won 13 games as a rookie. Oh, by the way, Zeke Elliott led the league in rushing. You know, so the value of the running back to me has not changed. They're so impactful. And I've said this before, and Devin McCourty and I talk about this a lot. I think the New England Patriots and Tom Brady distorted the value of the running back. When Tom Brady's your quarterback, you can load up on defense and you can only, you know, you don't have to draft linemen. Real high. And you don't really need an every down running back, you know, because he was so amazing at making the whole situation work. And then people said, hey, you know, you don't need running backs, you know, and not that they didn't have good running backs in New England. They had role player running backs. They didn't have the marquee guy that were there to hand the ball to 20, 25 times a game. And for me, that changed everybody's perception of running backs, that, hey, you don't need this guy. Well, maybe you don't if you have the best. If we're going to make Mount Rushmore of players, the first face you're chiseling is Tom Brady. Well, if you have that guy as your quarterback, maybe you don't need a running back. But short of that, the running back helps everybody else. And I do think it's fun for me to see the resurgence because I think it's just a reaffirmation of those values.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

We're talking to Jason Garrett, Football Night in America analyst, but that brings me to Ashton Genty. We had an analyst who said, reminds me of Emmett Smith, but faster.

[Jason Garrett]

Did you tell that analyst that Emmett Smith rushed for over 18,000 yards in the NFL? Yeah, and he was kind of good. If he reminds you of Emmett Smith, but he's faster, you probably should draft him. I just think you got to be careful of talking about reminds me of, you know, one of the greatest players ever to play in the NFL. But. But, you know, I can see what they're saying. He seems to be a guy that is not overly flashy, but it's hard to tackle. He's got excellent contact balance, always finishing forward. You know, those guys make a difference on your team. And you know, we were talking on Football Night in America all year long, maybe the last half of the year, who's going to be the MVP. And in about week 17, I blurted out, how about Saquon Barkley, right? I mean, do you think he had an impact on that team? The offensive line was great. I get all that. But when you have a runner who rushes for 2100 yards in 16 games and you don't think that's going to positively impact your quarterback. One of the best things that Kellen Moore did in the Super Bowl, Dan, is he kept running the football. Saquon, I think, was 24 carries for 57 yards. There were 47 Kansas City Chiefs on the line of scrimmage trying to stop Saquon Barkley. Right. And all of a Sudden AJ Brown is a big game and, and these receivers, well, it's because of the. It's because of the runner and the threat of the running game that you have to load people up and you create favorable looks outside and it certainly helps your quarterback too. So if, if Genty is like Emmitt Smith, but only faster, you should be the first pick of the draft.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

The Commanders were a great surprise last year, but as I've cautioned people, they did win a lot of games on the last drive, last possession, last seconds, and it's hard to sustain something like that. Yeah, Jane Daniels was wonderful and they have gone out and gotten some other pieces here and I do like that. But if you're going to handicap Commanders in the Eagles, what's the. What's the separation between those two at least right now going into next season?

[Jason Garrett]

Yeah, I think Philadelphia is still a cut above and Philadelphia is losing players. And that's what happens when you have a championship team like they do and they're so talented.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But.

[Jason Garrett]

But Howie Roseman's done an amazing job building the team. And you know, we were talking about it earlier, you know, one at one of Jeff Bezos is 14 leadership principles is. Is great. Leaders are right a lot. And, and you know, when you can.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I become a billionaire if I come up with silly things like that.

[Jason Garrett]

Yeah, but it's true. You know, if you simplify it, you got to be right a lot and, and you have to be right in personnel because ultimately that's what separates teams. You can have the greatest personnel process there is. How we, how we talk about it, how we go out on the road, our reports, all that kind of stuff. When it comes to nut cutting time and you got to pick a player, you got to pick the right one. And Devin and I were laughing about it. Would pick 199. The New England Patriots took Tom Brady in the year 2000. Middle of the fourth round in 2016, we drafted Dak Prescott. You know, there's a lot of other guys that you're talking about, you're thinking about, but you got to pick the right guys and. And how he's done an amazing job both in free agency and in the draft, picking the right guys for Philadelphia. So even though they're losing guys, I have confidence in him to keep that thing going.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Can you be honest with me? Would the Cowboys have taken Connor Cook out of Michigan State if he the pick before you guys took Dak Connor Cook, when I think to the Raiders, from what I was told you guys were Higher on Connor Cook than Dak Prescott.

[Jason Garrett]

Well, I'll take you through that whole draft, you know. You know, right at the top of the draft, we had the fourth pick and we drafted Zeke Elliott, which to me was a fantastic pick. He, you know, really changed our team in so many ways. But the quarterbacks went first, Jared Goff and Carson Wentz. And then, you know, the next guy up was Paxton Lynch. So there's conversation at the bottom of the first round about Paxton Lynch. Should we trade up, should we do this, should we do that? I mean, a lot of conversations about that. And then, you know, there were other guys. I'm trying to think who was in the. Maybe in the third round, somebody went. And then. And then it got to Connor Cook. And the Connor Cook discussion was more about he played in a drop back system at Michigan State. He was under center. You know, we felt like Dak Prescott was one of the five guys in the draft that could be a starting quarterback for us in the league. But he was a guy, and I'll be honest with you, I thought it was going to take him time because he played in the gun. Yeah, there was a lot of quarterback run, and at the time, that's not what we were doing. And so he had all this stuff, but it was like, huh, you know, he's probably two or three years away. Well, sure enough, he wins 13 games as a rookie, so there goes that part of the evaluation. But we had no doubt about Dak in terms of we were all in on this guy can be our quarterback in the future. It just seemed like Connor Cook was more ready to be our backup right now and then possibly the quarterback in the future. And, and Oakland traded up to get him. We fell back. We took a defensive lineman from Oklahoma in the fourth before we took Dak in the fourth. So, you know, all those different things when you reflect back on them certainly fell favorably for us. But he ended up being an amazing pick and a great player for us.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So I was correct that you guys liked Connor Cook more than you did Dak Prescott.

[Jason Garrett]

We did and we had healthy discussions about.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But you guys like Paxton Lynch. Didn't Jerry love Paxton Lynch?

[Jason Garrett]

Yeah. And you know, one thing that, that I always laugh about is that, you know, people go back afterwards in the draft and say, you know, there's like revisionist history. You guys would have taken him. You guys, you literally talk about 300 players all day long. Hey, what would happen if this guy fell back? Would you trade up for him? So if you went back and transcribed Those conversations, you know, history would be different. Right. You know, there was always the story that Bill Walsh likes Steve Dill is better than Joe Montana. Well, he ended up drafting Joe Montana.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So I got Cody Kessler. Cody Kessler, Christian Hackenberg, Jacoby Brissette. Those are the other quarterbacks that were taken before Dak Prescott.

[Jason Garrett]

Yeah. And we felt. We felt great about Dak. I'll give you a good story about that. You know, Wade Wilson was our quarterback coach for years. I don't remember Wade, but he passed away a few years ago. But he was one of my teammates. He played 19 years in the NFL, and it was our quarterback forever. And Wade never liked quarterbacks. Like, he would go work guys out and, you know, in for the draft, I mean. And I would say, wade, what'd you think of that guy? He can't play. He can't play. He can't play. I mean, this went on for years, Dan. It went on for years. And I'm like, he can't play. Can't play. I'm like, at some point we gotta, like one of these guys. We'll never draft anybody. And I'll never forget it. I think it was a Friday night. He called me early March, leading up to that 2016 draft, and he said, I think we got one.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Oh, wow.

[Jason Garrett]

I said, what? He's like, yeah, I'm down here in Starkville, Mississippi. I think we got our quarterback. And he just raved about Dakota. He loved him. And then. And then, I don't know if you remember this, like, two weeks later, Dak gets a dui.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jason Garrett]

And so I'm like, you know, he was the face of the program. Everybody loved him, the whole deal. He had all the stuff you wanted, and. And he. And he gets a dui. And I'm like, hey, here's our guy. What the heck? You know? And over the next month or so, we had some real aggressive conversations with Dak about the whole process. And I'll tell you the quick story. We used to do this thing for about three hours with quarterbacks we're thinking about drafting. We get them in a room, a quarterback room, and it would be me and the time with Scott Linehan, who was our coordinator, and Wade and some other people. And. And I would stand up there and I would put three plays in from our offense, three pass plays, five man protection, a six man protection, a seven man protection. I would talk really fast, use all our jargon, give them every rule that we had, talk about defense. This would have that, that, that, that and then I would erase it and say, okay, you're up, and now you got to give it back to me.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah.

[Jason Garrett]

And I would interrupt them on purpose and talk really fast and see if they could retain information, see if they could spit it back, see how much football they knew, all that. But we had a real question about. About this thing with Dak Prescott, about this dui, because it just seems so out of character for him. So we get him up on the board, and I'm talking really fast and put it all in, and I'm like, all right, you're up. It's an empty whiteboard. Give me the first play. And he starts talking and starts going through it, and about 10 seconds into him, like, hey, stop, stop, stop. Hey, hey, hey. Give me the story about this dui, okay? And so I'm like, get me to the bottom of this. And so he tells me the story. It was fantastic. It was so accountable and specific detail. I had a couple margaritas after the workout. I was going 38 and a 30. I got pulled over. Whatever. I mean, it was like. And it was clean, and it was direct, and it was accountable, and I'm sorry for it and whatever. Whatever.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

All right, I'm.

[Jason Garrett]

Keep going. And so he draws up the rest of the play, and we're asking him questions. I stop, hey, go back again. You know, you're the face of the program at Mississippi State. You know, this whole thing, I'm peppering them. And he kind of stops and gives me another explanation. Okay. Third time, he's drawn up another play. I stopped one more time. And he turns, and it was a great answer. He said. I said, tell me what happened again on this deal. And he said, coach, I don't know what you want me to tell you. I told you exactly what happened. I took accountability for it, whatever. And it was just a Dak Prescott answer. And I said to myself, I need to be quiet. So he finishes up the interview, and he's phenomenal. I can't tell you how good he is. Mentally, he's just off the charts. So, sure enough, he comes to the Cowboys, has an amazing start to his career, all of that. Wade Wilson tragically passes away about four years later. So we're at the repast after the funeral, and Dak comes up to me and says, coach, I never told you this story. He said, you remember you did that meeting with me before the draft where you were talking really fast and you kept interrupting me and all of that? I said, yeah. He's like, wade Wilson told me all the answers to the questions before I went in there, said, he's going to ask you this, he's going to ask you this, he's going to ask you this. So he said when I got a little frustrated when you kept peppering the question, I wasn't mad about the question about the dui. I was mad that I was forgetting all the stuff that Wade had already told me. It was a setup.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

That's great. Always great to talk to you. Thanks for sharing and we'll talk to you soon. Thank you, Jason.

[Jason Garrett]

You got it. Thanks, Jason.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Garrett, take a break. We're back after this.

[Jason Garrett]

Be sure to catch the live edition.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

[Larison Campbell]

There's a type of soil in Mississippi called Yazoo Clay. It's thick, burnt orange, and it's got a reputation.

[Greg Rosenthal]

It's terrible, terrible dirt.

[Larison Campbell]

Yazoo clay eats everything, so things that get buried there tend to stay buried until they're not. In 2012, construction crews at Mississippi's biggest hospital made a shocking discovery.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

7,000 bodies out there or more, all.

[Larison Campbell]

Former patients of the old state asylum, and nobody knew they were there.

[Greg Rosenthal]

It was my family's mystery.

[Larison Campbell]

But in this corner of the south, it's not just the soil that keeps secrets.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Nobody talks about it. Nobody has any information.

[Larison Campbell]

When you peel back the layers of Mississippi's Yazoo Clay, nothing's ever as simple as you think.

[Jason Garrett]

The story is much more complicated and nuanced than that.

[Larison Campbell]

I'm Larison Campbell. Listen to Under Yazoo Clay on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia. I'm excited to share my podcast with you. Math and Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing this week I'm talking to the CEO of Moderna, Stephane Bonsell, about how he led his team through unprecedented times to create, test and distribute a COVID vaccine all in in less than a year, it becomes a human decision to decide to throw by the window your.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Business strategy and to do what you.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Think is the right thing for the world. Join me as we uncover innovations in data and analytics, the math and the ever important creative spark, the magic. Listen to math and stories from the frontiers of Marketing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Ever wonder what it would be like to be mentored by today's top business leaders? My podcast this Is Working can help with here's advice from Google CMO Lorraine Twohill on how to treat AI like a partner. I see AI as an incredible copilot. You may use different tools or toys to get the work done, but ultimately as editor, as creator, as maker, you own it and it needs to be good. AI is just the latest flavor of that. You're still the judge of what good looks like. I'm Dan Roth, LinkedIn's editor in chief. On my podcast this is Working leaders like Indra Nooy, Ray Dalio and Rich Paul share strategies for success and the real lessons that have shaped them. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Larison Campbell]

What's up y'all? I'm A.J. andrews, pro softball player, sports analyst and the first woman to win a Rollins Gold Glove. On my new podcast, Dropping Diamonds. We dive headfirst into the world of softball by sharing powerful stories, insights and conversations that inspire and empower. Softball is growing fast and I'm going to help you keep up with the speed of the game and the athletes that play it. If you are an old or new fan looking to learn more about your favorite players or coaches and hear about their journeys and processes to success, this podcast is an exciting and invaluable resource for anyone interested in the complexities of excellence on the softball diamond. Softball is a game of failure and pressure success situations. But lucky for all the fabulous softball players and fans, pressure makes diamonds and it's time to drop some bombs and diamonds on and off the softball diamond. Dropping diamonds with A.J. andrews is an Athletes Unlimited Softball League production in partnership with iHeart Women's Sports and Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. Listen to dropping diamonds with AJ Andrews starting March 17 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Jon Stewart is back at the Daily show and he's bringing his signature wit and insight straight to your ears with the Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. Dive into John's unique take on the biggest topics in politics, entertainment, sports and more. Joined by the sharp voices of the show's correspondents and contributors, and with extended interviews and exclusive weekly headline roundups, this podcast gives you content you won't find find anywhere else. Ready to laugh and stay informed, listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Last call for phone calls What We Learned Junior Bridgman passed away. He was a part owner of the Milwaukee Bucks. Great businessman, became a billionaire. I believe he was part of the Lu Alcindor trademark and from the Lakers to the Milwaukee Bucks. Junior Bridgman was a very good NBA player, great college player. He invested in Chili's and Wendy's, I think. I think he had over a hundred of those locations. Became a billionaire. Alrighty. How about this day in Sports history? Paul?

[Greg Rosenthal]

This is one of one. If you get on YouTube sometime, Larry Bird of the Celtics scored 60 points in a game in 1985 against the Atlanta Hawks in New Orleans. Right, Dan in New Orleans. Weirdly, I still don't know why, but if you ever want to watch that, watch the players on the bench for The Atlanta Hawks. M.L. carr, Tree, Rollins and so forth. Is that right?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

M.L. carr wouldn't have been on that. It was Cliff Livingston. Cliff Livingston.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Cliff Livingston.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Antoine Carr.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Okay. Antoine Carr.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah.

[Greg Rosenthal]

They are celebrating Larry Bird on the sidelines on the bench. It's fascinating.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

YouTube. And we've had Mike Fratello on. He was the Hawkshead coach, and boy, was he upset at his players that they were. They're falling all over themselves because Bird is throwing up. Bird at one point says he's going to take a shot. He tells the bench he's going to take a shot, fall out of bounds and land, I think, in the trainer's lap. Byrd takes a shot in front of the bench, fades away, makes it and falls into the bench. Yes, Marvin.

[Greg Rosenthal]

I think Dominique Wilkins was on our show and he talked about those guys. Got fine after that because he was so mad about that.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

It's great video. On this date in 2009, Syracuse, in six overtimes, beats Connecticut in the Big east tournament. Oh, how great was that game? Well, not for Marvin, but that was a great game. That was a lot of fun. Right?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Looking back, it was an amazing game.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

127, 117. Syracuse over Yukon. Had some bids on the line tonight. We talked about that. There's a couple of them. Let me see. You have the Southland. You have the Patriot League in the Big Sky. All right, Todd, what'd you learn today?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Jason Garrett says any team that might compare Ashton Genti to Emmett Smith or.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Old, and he's only faster than him.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Should draft him right away.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Seaton, what'd you learn?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Jason Garrett's got stories.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

He does. He did text me. He apologized for going too long with the Dak Prescott story. Marvin, what'd you learn today?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Brooks Robinson broke your heart.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yes, he did. 1970. The vacuum cleaner.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Paul, would you learn Patriot League tonight? Who do we root for, Navy or American?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

What's up, everyone? It's Greg Rosenthal, and I'm teaming up with the King of Spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that we're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season. From DJs mock drafts to my top 101, free agents will have it covered for you with all new episodes every Thursday keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL Draft. Listen to 40s and free agents starting on March 6th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Larison Campbell]

In Mississippi, Yazoo clay keeps secrets.

[Jason Garrett]

7,000 bodies out there or more.

[Larison Campbell]

A forgotten asylum, cemetery.

[Greg Rosenthal]

It was my family's mystery.

[Larison Campbell]

Shame, guilt, propriety. Something keeps it all buried deep. Until it's not. I'm Larison Campbell, and this is under Yazoo Clay. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Greg Rosenthal]

What's up, everyone?

[Larison Campbell]

Julie Swerbinks here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson.

[Greg Rosenthal]

We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go.

[Larison Campbell]

The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right? Exactly.

[Larison Campbell]

And you'll never know who will drop by to join us.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe. Listen to Energy Line with Nate and.

[Larison Campbell]

Jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Hey, you guys, I'm Katherine Leg. I'm a racing driver who's literally driven everything with four wheels across the planet. And I've got a new podcast. It's called Throttle Therapy. This season, I'm competing in some of the world's most notorious racing events. Tune into my new podcast, Throttle Therapy, with Katherine Legg, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment.

[Larison Campbell]

You can find us on the iHeartRadio.

[Greg Rosenthal]

App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports, I'm Maura Arendsmealy, host of the Anxious Achiever. On the show, business leaders and experts unpack the intersection of mental well being neurodiversity, leadership and Career. We offer tools and strategies to enjoy better mental health and find the best way to work for you. Listen to the Anxious achiever on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.