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Yeah, we got a couple of them up there right now. Which coverage did not match the reality, Bill Belichick or Arch Manning? Right now Bill Belichick has yes holding strong at about 64% of that vote. We also put up there who had the best weekend, the Miami Hurricanes, Florida State, LSU or Lee Corso. Right now Lee Corso's got 56% of the non Lee Corso options. Florida State. Running away with that, running away with it.
Dan Patrick
It was an impressive performance and it's one of those where you go is this about Florida State or about Alabama? It's about both because you're seeing that maybe that two win season last year was an anomaly and aberration that they will have good players. They got a really good quarterback and a quarterback who had a lot of things to chirp about during the off season about Alabama, that Saban's not there and and you can't stop me. You can only hope to contain me. But they dominated the offense and defensive lines. That's college football offense and defensive lines, college football you're going to get. There's enough skill position players to go around for everybody. But the difference is offensive and defensive lines. Brandon in Tallahassee. Hi Brandon, Right on cue. What do you have for me?
Caller
Hey DP So I have a best of the weekend and then I needed some travel suggestions for a trip I have planned next month. The best of the weekend. I was in attendance to see FSU manhandle Alabama. It was the most exciting game I've ever been a part of. And then next month my girl and I are flying out to Stanford to see the Seminoles take on the Fighting Andrew Lux and we'll be staying in, we'll be staying in San Francisco and I just wanted to know if you or Marvin or any of the Danets had any travel suggestions or things I need to do or see while over there. Thank you.
Dan Patrick
I don't, I haven't been in San Francisco in a long time. I don't think I could be a tour guide there. If you get a chance to go to Napa or Sonoma, even if you drive around, that's great. But I haven't been to San Francisco in a long time. If you can take in a game the San Francisco Giants, if they're at home, go to that ballpark. That is great. A lot of great restaurants out there. Maybe you could track down Buddha's restaurant that's outside of San Francisco. Sean in Indianapolis. Hi Sean. What's on your mind today?
Caller
Morning Dan. I got a Beth worse and a worser. The best was spent the weekend out on the lake. Probably the last weekend we'll have out on the boat. So that was really nice. The worst is Notre Dame against Miami and just you have the best running back in the in the country and he barely got any touches and just the three yard passes downfield were not working. And the worser is basically having Lee Corso dominate me in picks because I was the opposite of every single one of his.
Dan Patrick
Thank you, Sean. I didn't understand Notre Dame's game plan with Jeremiah Love because I'm tuning in to watch him and all of a sudden I'm watching him and he's not doing anything. He's not even getting the chance to do anything. Didn't understand it. Patrick in North Carolina. Hi Patrick. Best and worst of the weekend.
Caller
Good morning D.P. good morning Dan. At long time, second time caller. Love your show from day one. First of all, my best of the weekend happened this morning on my way to work, got out of a speeding ticket Which I was very glad of. And my worst of the weekend, of course, was last night. The first drive my Tar Heels put on was outstanding. Text. A buddy of mine said, hey, we may have something here. After the 75 yard run, I said, going to bed. We're done for the season already.
Dan Patrick
Thank you, Patrick. Turn out the lights, Drive home safely. Rob in Orlando. Hi, Rob. What's on your mind today?
Caller
Hey, Dan, thanks for taking my call, as always. Best of the weekend was my worst of the weekend about one year ago, and that was Florida State after going to Dublin last year to see them lose.
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Caller
A nice, refreshing victory. And then my other best of the weekend, Lee Corso. I was telling Tyler, man, you know, I grew up here in Orlando and I was a kid when he coached the Orlando Renegades.
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Yeah.
Caller
In the usfl. And then later became neighbors with him in Heathrow here. And just. Absolutely. Just a solid gentleman of a guy, man. And you were totally right with what you said about Herb3 yesterday. Keeping them going, man. Appreciate you all. Take care.
Dan Patrick
Thank you, Ron. Yeah, I thought Herbie did a wonderful job just helping Coach Corso the last couple of years, helping him kind of with his opinions, with his picks, and it didn't go unnoticed. Herbie. Luke de Kock, Raleigh News and Observer, sports columnist for 17 years, covering North Carolina football. Well, last time I had you on, I don't know how optimistic you sounded there, but how's morale in North Carolina today?
Marcus Grant
Yeah, I mean, I think it's fair to say that things did not go as planned in the Bill Belichick debut last night. You know, it's funny, the first six minutes they get out there, 83 yard touchdown drive, very clean, very crisp. Three and out on their first defensive series. And you were like, oh, hey, you know, maybe these guys did split, split the atom. And then the next 54 minutes looked like pretty much every era of North Carolina football and the history of North Carolina football. The talent level, I think, is. Is the more disturbing thing than the coaching. It just, you know, it looked almost like one of the late David Cutcliffe era Duke teams or where you're just kind of getting beat at every position. The secondary was full of transfers. It got torn apart. Their two best offensive players were guys who were holdovers from the Mack Brown era. It just. It did not look like an ACC caliber team. It looked like, you know, a stew of a bunch of things thrown together, hoping that the celebrity chef could make something out of it. And, you know, you're up against an established program with a Philosophy and a foundation and a background. And TCU did what you would expect them to do.
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They.
Marcus Grant
They went up against a team they didn't know anything about. They made quick adjustments, effective adjustments, and UNC never adjusted. It was, it was, you know, kind of the debacle. The last time you and I talked, we were like, how bad could this potentially get? I think this is how bad it could potentially get.
Dan Patrick
Okay, it is one game. And I always caution people, whether they're criticizing Arch Manning or Alabama or it's one game, but there can be breadcrumbs that are put down that you go, I don't know. If I keep following this, it. It may end up worse than this. I think the over under was eight and a half for Carolina. Where would you stand on that bet today?
Marcus Grant
Yeah, I'm still under. I mean, I think to get to nine wins, 10 wins, you had to win this one. That's kind of predicated on getting off to a good start. You know, you win the TCU game, you've got all this hype. You got Michael Jordan, Lawrence Taylor, Mia Ham, Roy Williams. Not that Roy misses a UNC football game, but you had the national sports world watching and, you know, Herb street and Rhys Davis and Pat McAfee and Herbie's dog. And like everybody on the planet's watching this football game and you're trying to capture all this momentum. You had nine months to prepare. The eyes of the world are on Chapel Hill. You got all these stuff that they've trademarked Chapel, Bill and Bill's version and all this stuff. And then you unlay an egg like that. It certainly, if this was going to be what we had been pitched, what the UNC boosters and trustees had paid all these millions of dollars for, it was not going to look like this. Off the hop now. Yeah. It doesn't mean that they can't regroup and figure things out and maybe make some changes in terms of who's playing and who's on the depth chart. But, you know, the vision that was out there did not start like this. This was pretty grim. And to be honest, that second half, you know, TCU comes out, scores a 75 yard touchdown on the first play, Carolina coughs it up for another TCU touchdown. I mean, it. It's all, you know, I hate to say, like a team quit, but it did look like Carolina ran out of gas physically and emotionally and just couldn't keep up in the second half. That's not a great sign in terms of what are the breadcrumbs in terms of what could work going forward when you had six minutes of good football that you had nine months to prepare for and everything else fell apart after that.
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Dan Patrick
And that's what I was going to bring up, Luke, that you had all this time to prepare for this opponent. You bring in 70 new players. Yes. You have Bill Belichick, the king of adjustments. And I'm thinking, all right, TCU is showing some life here. Offensively, Bill will make changes. He did that famously with the Patriots. I just don't know if you can ask an 18 or 19 or 20 year old to make adjustments on the fly like he was asking professionals in New England. And maybe he didn't have the talent that he thought because there felt like a real disparity, you know, in the second half of the haves and the have nots.
Marcus Grant
And I honestly think it could have been worse in the first half. There were opportunities for TCU to throw the ball that they weren't taking because they really were, you know, like it's football, right. We're going to establish the run game and get our go through our scheme and get everything set up. And there were chances to take shots deep against North Carolina secondary in the first half, but TCU passed on. They did not in the second half. And that would be the number one thing that would worry me if I were Bill belichick, you know, Mr. Defense. I mean, maybe there just weren't enough lacrosse players out there. But the secondary's inability to cover and then the inability to get pressure, I mean it was just sort of a cascading series of failures on defense. And then what happened at that point, the second half is the complete inability to tackle. So now we've gone from adjustments to cascading failures to just fundamentals. And if I'm Bill Belichick, that that's what's going to keep me up last night more than anything is we put together a roster that not only can't make the adjustments you're talking about, but can't do the basic things we need to do just to win football games.
Dan Patrick
Talking to Luke De Cart. He is a sports columnist, Raleigh news and observer covering North Carolina football for 17 years. Clemson at home in five weeks.
Marcus Grant
Yeah, I mean, look, Charlotte, on the road, I mean this you're now it's your first road game, short turnaround from Monday to Saturday. You got a lot of things you need to fix. You got a million dollar quarterback who looked terrible and has a sore back. Now there are issues with this team Even if they had won this game, that have to be resolved before the Charlotte. Now look, Charlotte struggled in their opener. This is a game that, you know, it's crazy. UNC is going on the road. This game was set up years ago, as we all know in college football. But this is no gimme. I mean, they have got to get out there and find a way to execute and do the things that they did on that first drive and failed to do. It was just, you know, the students were leaving like the third quarter wasn't even half over. The students were gone by the end of the third quarter. The boosters who'd paid for this were gone. I mean, it was just the way that balloon was punctured and burst and the air just went out of everything. That's tough for players too. Like they have to get back to where they were going into this game to play a team that they're not going to be excited about playing. Forget about Clemson. I mean that you got to get ready to play Charlotte, which is the kind of game that you would say, oh, this is a potential letdown game. I mean, app State and East Carolina are always tough games for, for these schools, for UNC and Duke and State because those are the biggest games on the calendar for those teams. And now Carolina's got to go play in one of those games against a team that's, you know, like everybody else this season is going to be really fired up about the chance to prove itself against Bill Belichick.
Dan Patrick
How patient should people be? How patient will the boosters be with Bill?
Marcus Grant
Boosters are going to be patient because they're pot committed now. They've got no choice. I mean, they're, they're. This is. They made this bed, they're going to have to sleep in it. I think based on the fan reaction last night, the patience is already gone. It's. It's a little unfair. And look, Carolina brought this on itself. Bill Belichick brought this on himself. Michael Lombardi brought this on himself. They talked that they had untied the college football knot. They were going to come in, they were smarter than everybody else. They were better than everybody else. And it turned, like I'm telling you right now, Dave Dorn over in Raleigh, the NC State coach last night, I guarantee you, he had a cigar, he had a solo cup of whiskey. He's got his feet up, he's laughing his butt off. Like these guys just came in. We are so much better than you. We have this figured out. We have super bowl rings and they Got their, you know, they got embarrassed in their first college game. I think the fans saw that too. There was a very strong element of the Emperor's new clothes last night. You know, I joked in my column, like, you know, forget the cutoff sleeves. Belichick got pants last night. Like, he got exposed. And that I think more than anything really sort of put a pin in the idea that, you know, the UNC is going to be in the CFP and they're going to revolutionize college football and, you know, they've got a new paradigm. I mean, it was to get beat like that, to be out talented and out coached and out adjusted and to see what we've known all on, right? TCU out there, out there tweeting an image of the Hulu series and saying, when's the first episode? Like, everybody is gunning for these guys and they were totally unprepared for. So, I mean, to me, the patience is already gone. People are just kind of wondering how bad it's going to be. And again, look, we talked about this a second ago. This is maybe not the way the whole season is going to go, right? Like, you can get better. And if Bill Belichick is the coach that he says he is and that UNC's boosters are paying for, they will get better and they will learn from this. And now they have film and they know who they can trust and who they can't. But, you know, and if this was John Sumrall or Jeff Monkin or any of the other coaches they could have hired, we all be saying, hey, what did you expect? They have 70 new players, right? This is turnover. There's going to be growing pains and this is going to take time. But, but that's not what Bill Belichick said. That's not what he promised. They were coming in to change college football to be the 33rd NFL team. And I'm going to make the same joke I made the last time I was with you. Like, yes, this was very Cleveland Browns esque. It was very much the 33rd NFL team.
Dan Patrick
Just to confirm North Carolina is still a basketball school.
Marcus Grant
I mean, the only Jordan that still matters is Michael.
Dan Patrick
Well, weren't they together with the dignitaries.
Marcus Grant
Up there, all in the same Lawrence Taylor and Roy? But hey, you know, it's. It's. To me, to me, this almost puts more pressure on Hubert Davis because basketball is going to have to make up for this.
Dan Patrick
You know, the uniform still look good last night, though, Luke.
Marcus Grant
That's the most important thing.
Dan Patrick
Of course. Yes. Great. To talk to you. I look forward to talking to you. Maybe after week five when North Carolina shocks Clemson. And then what are you going to write in your column then?
Marcus Grant
I mean, I, hey, look, man, I'm, I'm perfectly compared for my own comeuppance if they can turn this around. But based on the early returns, I don't necessarily think that's likely. It's certainly possible.
Dan Patrick
Thank you, Luke. Appreciate it. Luke Deock, he is a Raleigh News and Observer sports columnist covering North Carolina football for 17 years. Yeah, you want to kind of build up a little grace period when you take over a team. You know, hey, a lot of new faces and you know, we're still looking for, you know, our next Drake May. And you know, just you can kind of ease in a little bit. Belichick couldn't ease in no matter what. Even if he said those things, people would still have those expectations because you're Bill. But they build up the expectations. By the way, do you see the press conference area where they had balloons up behind Bill? It looked like a birthday party for.
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Yeah, I was watching it last night. All I kept thinking was it's a boy.
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And it might have been. Maybe somebody had a gender reveal there.
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Matthew Stafford expect to play Week 1 according to the Rams. And Micah Parsons working through a back issue. He is expected to play in Week 1 and may need an epidural. Speaking of NFL news, Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback, senior NFL reporter who was also at the Ohio State Texas game, being an Ohio State apologist there, what would you. What? Okay, your takeaway from Arch Manning was what?
Dan Orlovsky
He's a kid in his first game as the true starting quarterback, his first game against an elite opponent. And I actually thought he showed some resilience making some big time throws at the end of the game. There was the one to, there was one for the touchdown down the right sideline. There was the One to the tight end down the left sideline on the final possession of the game. So was it perfect? No. I mean, Dan, I, I just look, and I've been saying this for four months, like, I just think it's asinine that anybody's projecting him to be the number one pick in the draft. We don't know he might become that. But, you know, I think there's so little that we've seen at this point and scouts will tell you this is like, there's so little you can take from two starts against a directional school. And what was the worst team in the SEC last year. You don't know what's going to happen when he gets knocked around a little bit. You don't know what's going to happen when teams get five, six, seven games of tape on him and now they're able to game plan him. You don't know what's going to happen when he plays an elite opponent. And this is a process that all young quarterbacks have to go through. And because of his last name, he's been elevated to this level where the expectations are almost impossible. I mean, go back and look at like what Cam Ward's first five or six games at Washington State looked like when he went from incarnate word to Washington State. Now this is a guy who became the first pick in the draft, right? And he had played, he had started for two years at a lower level of college football. And I think there was a, I want to say a four game stretch where he threw seven picks. Nobody cared because his last name's Ward, not Manning, you know, so, yeah, I think there's a lot of talent there. I think the kid's got a great head on his shoulders by all accounts. Like, you know, I talked to Quinn Ewers about him earlier in the offseason and Quinn loves him. And that's a kid who would have every reason not to like him. Loves him, you know, and I, I've even seen some things that Arch has said that show a tremendous amount of, of self awareness, you know, like where he says things like, you know, I can't wait to see what it looks like when I have, I throw my first pick. And now everybody goes from thinking I'm the best player in the world to the worst player in the world. You know, I think he's got the head and the talent to work through all this. But I think what you saw on Saturday was, was part of the process of becoming a big time quarterback.
Dan Patrick
We'll be less patient With Bill Belichick and the results at North Carolina, what would you say would be? It's one game, obviously, but a little bit more disturbing, that this could be maybe season, maybe more systemic.
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah. So I would say, you know, I expected them to lose the game because I just think TCU's got better players. And you know, the reality is they were at a talent deficit in that game. That's a well coached team. You know, Sunny Lubik took them to the national semif, did the national championship game just a few years ago. It's not some pushover. They were playing in week one, so I thought they'd lose. What surprised me was like what a bleep show it turned into in the third quarter. And I don't know if you like how much you, you of the game you watched in, but to me, like the quarter it was, I mean, it was like almost bad news Bears. Ish. Maybe I'm dating myself a little bit with that reference. But you know, the first play from scrimmage is 75 yard touchdown. On the second possession, they convert third and 20 with a seam route right down Main street. And then, you know, the running back scores in the next play untouched from 28 yards out. You know, and then you had the fumble return for a touchdown A little bit after that. It just, it felt like the team wasn't prepared, you know, to come out of the locker room for the second half. And that was what was alarming to me about it. It wasn't, it wasn't. Again, it wasn't that they lose the game. I thought they'd lose the game. It was the way that it looked towards the end. And so, you know, I think Bill knows he's got a lot of work to do, but that was something I think you wouldn't expect from a Bill Belichick coach team, regardless of, of how long or short he's been in a place.
Dan Patrick
Okay, you're not reporting this, but if I said if you were going to bet on this, what is Bill Belichick doing a year from now coaching North Carolina? Okay.
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, I think, like, I mean, look like there's 70 new players and that's the number, right?
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Dan Orlovsky
Okay, so Deion Sanders went through this two years ago in Colorado and I think Dion, if I remember, I didn't. He beat TCU in his first game, isn't that right? Yeah, but then what was their record?
Dan Patrick
I think they won four games.
Dan Orlovsky
Right. So like Dion eventually got there. But I think some people looked at that and underestimated like, what a herculean task it is to turn over that much of the roster when you're dealing with like 19, 20, 21 year old kids, you know, and maybe Bill, you know, like underestimated what that, what the task there would be. But that's a really serious overhaul of a college program. And I think, you know, now it's the benefit of having like at least a game of evidence of might have been too much to ask to ask for a really great performance right out of the gate.
Dan Patrick
Talking Albert Brear, the Monday morning quarterback, senior NFL reporter how many teams were in play for Micah Parsons?
Dan Orlovsky
I think the number was it was six, and at the very end, maybe less, but there were six that were involved and the Cowboys took what they felt like was the best offer. Now, I think that the thing that people are missing here, and I think this is a really interesting nuance to it, is that there's a bigger picture thought here for Dallas and what they're doing. And I'm not going to tell you that they didn't want to resign, Micah. They did. But when things broke down in the spring, they had a series of conversations about, like, okay, like, what are we trying to do here? We haven't been to an NFC championship game, let alone a Super bowl in 29 years. That's the third longest drought in the NFL yet. We've, I think they're top 10, top seven or eight maybe in, in wins over that same period. So you've been consistently really good, but never good enough. Right. Like at the end, you know, I think they, you know, with a new head coach now, Brian Schadenheimer started to look in the mirror a little bit about it, you know, and it was like, okay, like, so if we are going to get to a point where we're going to trade Micah Parsons, is there some sort of pivot we want to make here? And that pivot wound up being we want to like really lean in on what Brian Schottenheimer is trying to build here, which you've heard him use the phrase the greatest culture in professional sports. And maybe that's a little bit of hyperbole, but like, that's the idea of what they're trying to do there. And then you look at their first two draft picks in April, and it was two guys who are just middle of the fairway from a makeup and character standpoint, and Tyler Booker from Alabama and Donovan Ezraku from Boston College, really productive college players who are really great people. And then you look at what Dallas did here Right. Like which not all six of the teams had two first round picks on the, on the table, but the rough ask was two first round picks and a player that can be useful for us. And the Cowboys actually asked for Kenny Clark and I think the packers were taken aback a little bit by that thinking like, well, they lost DeMarcus Lawrence, they're losing Micah Parsons here. We thought maybe they want an edge player and packers people were heartbroken. Like losing Kenny Clark. Right. The reason why is because of the person he is. And I think that that was a huge part. That was a huge part of why Dallas asked specifically for him. Because it's leaning into what they're trying to build and leaning into that whole we're going to have the greatest culture in the NFL thing and maybe that'll be the difference maker for us. Now will it work? We'll see. But in drafting Booker and drafting as a rock who. And now bringing in Kenny Clark, I think they're kind of looking at it and saying, how can we make the locker room the best locker room in the NFL and how can we empower Dak Prescott to be the leader of the team? And we'll see how all that works out. But Micah Parsons didn't really fit into that. Now again, they wanted to resign him. I'm not saying they didn't want to resign him, but the idea was if we do move on from this guy, what are we going to do? And I think you see a pretty clear vision for what they're going to do on the field with the run stopping stuff that they've said a million times now, but also off the field.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but you don't bring in George Pickens if you're talking about the locker room.
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, but that's for a year.
Dan Patrick
Okay, but I mean, okay, now you can stop the run. Now can you stop the pass? Like you know, you.
Dan Orlovsky
Right. And I understand, I, and I understand there's a lot of that. Right. Like in the Pickens things. That's a good rebuttal. There's no question, like that's a big risk for them, you know, but that's for a year and you'll see where that goes. And in the meantime, like they are able to take that money and, and, and, and sign some of their own guys, you know, I mean, Duron Blands, one who's got, got done over the last couple of days, Tyler Smith, another, you know, you know, a real like foundation piece for them on the offensive line that they plan to resign. Like these things would be More difficult if you had Micah Parsons making between 45 and $50 million a year. So again, like, I think there's just sort of a big picture idea here in the way that they're going to handle it. And.
Dan Patrick
But Kenny Clark helps you now, but you're, you don't need help now. He's not the future. You're getting two first round picks. I mean, how did Jamal Adams got three. There was three first round picks for Jamal Adams for the Jets. Like, I, I just don't understand if I, I look at some of these other players who've been traded, defensive players. Yeah, you got a lot more for these guys.
Dan Orlovsky
And I think that, that, like, that to me is another valid criticism is like, if you were talking about this in March and April, right, Then you should have created the tension point with your player then. And I think that, that, that piece of it to me is really important because if you are putting Micah Parsons on the market in March and April, there's way more of a market for him. It's tough to trade a guy right before the start of the season. Team's budgets are set, their caps are set, their, their rosters are set. Like, when you're talking about bringing in a player of this magnitude, like, that's, that's a big thing. The, the capital that you got to fork over for them and the contract you got to fork over, like, that's a lot. And if you're looking at the idea of this and you say you put them on the market in March or April, well, then you're probably going to have more teams involved because more teams are going to, you know, sort of have stayed loose at that point with an ability to pivot and make moves at certain positions that you wouldn't be able to make in the summer. And then, you know, like, you're also. The other benefit of doing it then is that you're actually going to get one of those picks on your team this year. You know what I mean? Like, instead of having to wait until 26 and 27 to have those guys on your team, like whatever picks you get in 25 now, those teams, those guys are going to help you right now. So I think that's a very valid criticism, that they shouldn't have let this thing linger. They shouldn't have let it go through camp 100%. I'm with you on that. Like, that's a fair criticism. And they should have reached this tension point with Micah Parsons and David Mulligetta and all the people in that Camp way earlier than they did.
Dan Patrick
You got your super bowl pick.
Dan Orlovsky
I can't remember who I picked and I don't want to go again. It was Buffalo and who did I pick? You can tell how much work I put into this, Dan, how much I, I picked Buffalo and the Rams.
Dan Patrick
I think even with Stafford's back, I.
Dan Orlovsky
Think the Rams are gonna be really good. Like I think Devonte Adams.
Dan Patrick
Oh, I think they're going to be good, but I'm, I'm only worried about Matthews. They go as Matthew Stafford goes.
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, they do. And I think, I think Matthew's back is going to be all right. I just, the people that I've talked to there the again I, and I'm not minimizing like what he's dealing with. He's definitely dealing with a serious injury, but they felt like they could have thrown him out there early in camp and this was more about. Matthew's only got so many bullets left in the gun and we don't need to be firing those bullets in the first week of August or the second week of August, especially when Jimmy Garoppolo is on the bench and he can come in and run our offense at a starting caliber level so the other 10 guys in the huddle can get all the reps that they need running our offense to get ready for the season. So you know, I, I, I, that, that was sort of the approach they took. Like until he's 100%, we're not going to put him out there and they got very close to that, you know, and before putting him out there. And Matthew has managed these things too. Like he's had, you know, I think from all the damage he took over the years in Detroit, like as extensional injuries for a quarterback, a wrist, an elbow, so, you know, back is definitely not good for an older guy. But he's managed this sort of thing in the past and I, I personally think like they'll be able to manage him through the, through the season and they've got a damn good team around him. Like I think if you look at the young talent on that team and the job that they've done moving out of like the Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey, Cooper cup era, they've done a really, really nice job of reworking that roster and I think they're going to be right in it till the end.
Dan Patrick
Tampa Bay bandwagon starting to fill up in first class.
Dan Orlovsky
I like the Bucks too. I mean the amazing thing about the box, if you look at the roster, the, the number of guys that are homegrown and the depth they have there and the way that they've been able to kind of go from the Brady era group, like, same, same thing. I was talking about the Rams and then draft and develop young guys and, and, and get a year ahead of things like, like a mecca. Buka might be not, might, might not be a big. Might, might not feel a big need for them right now with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin coming back off the injury. But that's going to be a big need in a year or two in all likelihood. Right. So you get that taken care of.
Marcus Grant
Now.
Dan Orlovsky
They've done a really good job of, of restocking their roster, having Zion Callum ready to go as Carlton Davis was walking out the door. You know, like they've just done a really good job of continuing to, I mean, churn that roster where when older players are on their way out, they have an answer. And, and I think Baker Mayfield is, is pretty underrated too, I think, I think Baker's got a chance to have a dynamite year.
Dan Patrick
Always great to talk to you. Thank you, Albert.
Dan Orlovsky
All right. Thanks, Dan. And by the way, thanks for the fantasy draft. Your secret is safe with us. I will say that we took every precautionary to make sure.
Dan Patrick
Yes, some of those team names. You wouldn't want me saying that around your wife, would you?
Dan Orlovsky
Well, you can see you can say mine, right?
Dan Patrick
I could. They have all these descriptive names. Albert, Albert's fantasy league. Albert's team is called Albert's Team.
Dan Orlovsky
That's because when we changed platforms, I forgot to rename it. So mine wasn't very good before that either.
Dan Patrick
Everybody has some wild, inappropriate name. And then his is Albert's team.
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, that was, I think that was Yahoo. I think that was the automatic Yahoo name that they slapped on it. Thank you. But everybody appreciated it. It was really good.
Dan Patrick
Albert Brear, the Monday morning quarterback, senior NFL reporter. Take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store tomorrow this day in sports history. Right after this, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live this Labor Day.
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I'm Dan. He's Ty. Hello and we're the Solid Verbal College Football Podcast.
Tyler Booker
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Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this.
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Marcus Grant
And they're saying like, okay, pull this.
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Dan Patrick
I was told that there were six teams at least kicking the tires on trading for Micah Parsons and then Albert Brer back that up with his sources. I don't know to what extent but it was some teams didn't have a run stopper that Dallas desperately wanted. But I'd still rather have three first round picks than Kenny Clark. He's, he's, he was a Pro bowl player, but he's a, he's a good player and you know, is by all accounts a really good person in the locker room. But if I'm building for the future, I get what point, I mean, why not trade Dak Prescott? I don't know who wants him. But if, you know, if you're moving towards the future, then move to the future. I just don't think you want to get stuck in that no man's land where you're winning seven, eight games. You're not going to, you're not going to improve enough. You almost have to be bad to get better to get these picks and get better picks. You're going to get green base picks and if everybody plays well in Green Bay, those picks are going to be in late 20s.
Dan Orlovsky
Yes, Paulie, we've always talked about that with the NBA that no man's land of maybe just being on the cusp of the playoffs, but not threatening.
Dan Patrick
Michael Irvin will join us on the program tomorrow. The popular host with NFL Network, Kyle Brandt will stop by. Always fun to talk to him. Glenn in San Diego. Glenn, thanks for holding. Best and worst of the weekend.
Caller
Hey Dan, how are you doing, guys? Lee Corso, retirement knows not only amazing, but the fact that he hit six for six.
Dan Patrick
Yep.
Caller
Courtney bets a hundred dollar bet would have won you ten grand. And all the college teams he coached that played one.
Dan Patrick
Yep. Yeah, I mentioned that earlier in the show and it was a fitting tribute. I was very happy that he got that moment. And he went in with an Ohio State game and he leaves with an Ohio State game. Mike in la. Hi Mike. What's on your mind?
Caller
Hi, Dan. Quick question about the baseball play operation and a quick comment on Mr. Herbstreak. If you had to pick a team between the Reds, the Giants and the D backs right now to catch the Mets, if you think somebody can catch the Mets, who would it be?
Dan Patrick
Well, I'll take the Reds because I trust their manager. But you know that I don't know if any of those teams I would have a lot of faith in. What's your Kirk Curbstreet comment?
Caller
I love it when Kirk used to always take his golden retriever with him everywhere on the road, in the hotel when he do the broadcast. I just didn't know if a lot of people knew that. They did make a bit of a deal about it on the phone when his dog Passed away not that long ago. I just thought it was a really cool thing that Kirk did because I'm a big dog lover.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, that was great. And he's got his new dog. And there's a picture of his new pup in the fountain at North Carolina. As soon as they got on campus, dog went right into the fountain. Let's see. How about Dane in Texas? Hi, Dane. What's on your mind?
Caller
Good morning, Dan. I've got a best and worse plus a nomination for the best college quarterback. Okay, my best. My best. Joey Aguilar or Joey Aguilar from the way he played against Syracuse University of Tennessee. And I also love him because we share the same last name. Worst. I went to both Notre Dame and Texas. Terrible weekend. Lost them both. I should have won at least one of those games.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Caller
My nominee for best quarterback. The Danets won't remember him, but you will. And it was James street. He went 20 and oh for the University of Texas. Won the game of the century. He beat Notre Dame in the Cotton bowl for a national championship. And in baseball, he threw two no hitters. One was a perfecto against Texas Tech.
Dan Patrick
Thank you, Dane. James street, he was one of those option guys. He wasn't going to beat you with his arm, but you know, very slick. That Woo Woo Wooster. Steve Wooster. I think they had a tailback name Bertles Stein. Bertelstein, something like that. I don't know if he was Jewish. Todd. I'm gonna guess at Texas. Probably not back in the league.
Dan Orlovsky
You never know though.
Dan Patrick
You never really hold that hope. You never ever know.
Dan Orlovsky
We're checking.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I thought it was. And maybe he played for the Rams. Went from Texas to the Rams. Bertelstein. Yes, Paul.
Dan Orlovsky
And that name street is so popular in Texas. Jason street was the quarterback character on Friday Night Lights, the TV show.
Dan Patrick
This day in sports history. Paul. Just a couple.
Dan Orlovsky
1966, the Dolphins played the first regular season game. Unfortunately a loss to the Raiders. 1970, Jimmy Connors played his first match at the US Open. He's a legend there. And let's get one more fun one for you, Dan. Mark McGuire hit home runs 58 and 59 on this day catching about to catch Roger Maris.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I was doing Sportscenter and you know, we were leading with Sosa. McGuire felt like just about every day. Final results of the poll question. Seaton.
Mara Seaton
Which coverage did not match the where. Which coverage did not match the reality? Right now Bill Belichick running away with that one. And who had the best weekend Elite course. So just keeps winning.
Dan Patrick
All right, let's go around the room. What we learned on this Tuesday. Todd, I'm going to start with you.
Tyler Booker
James in Virginia likes LSU to win the national title and he likes the Chiefs and salute the commanders to meet.
Dan Patrick
In the Super Bowl. Seaton, what'd you learn today?
Mara Seaton
Already a ton of pressure on Hubert Davis in North Carolina basketball.
Dan Patrick
You got to set up this shit that turned quickly. Quickly. The dignitaries, they called them. I thought they were celebrities, but they called them dignitaries last night. Marvin, what did you learn?
Marcus Grant
You got CMC winning Offensive Player of the Year?
Dan Patrick
I do.
Dan Orlovsky
Paul, A lot of people love the Bijan.
Dan Patrick
Bijan for Offensive Player of the Year. Todd, what did I learn on today's award nominated program?
Tyler Booker
RD3 believes that Alabama coach Caleb Deborah.
Marcus Grant
Gets fired if the Tide lose four or five games this season.
Dan Patrick
Thanks for the phone calls, emails, tweets, the all around support. Have a great day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
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September 2, 2025
Main Theme:
A lively final hour focusing on the fallout from North Carolina football's disastrous debut under Bill Belichick, the ongoing media scrutiny of Arch Manning, and insider NFL analysis—including the Dallas Cowboys' blockbuster trade involving Micah Parsons. Dan brings in veteran college football columnist Luke DeCock and NFL reporter Albert Breer for in-depth perspectives, interspersed with humor, sharp listener calls, and show banter.
Florida State’s Dominance & Offensive/Defensive Lines
“That’s college football—offense and defensive lines, that’s the difference maker.” — Dan Patrick (04:18)
Calls: Best & Worst of the Weekend
“Just a solid gentleman of a guy, man. And you were totally right about what you said about Herbie yesterday, keeping him going, man.” (08:14)
(in conjunction with Dan Patrick, Marcus Grant, and the crew)
Postmortem on UNC’s Opening Loss (09:03–15:51)
“It looked almost like one of the late David Cutcliffe Duke teams, where you’re just getting beat at every position… The secondary was full of transfers, it got torn apart.” — Luke DeCock (09:15)
Expectations vs. Reality, Immediate Aftermath
“You had all this time to prepare for this opponent… you bring in 70 new players, you have Bill Belichick, king of adjustments… But maybe he didn’t have the talent he thought.” (12:31)
“If I’m Bill Belichick, what’s keeping me up is not just the inability to adjust, but the basic inability to do fundamentals.” (13:11)
Short- & Long-term Outlook
“Bill Belichick got pantsed last night. He got exposed.” (16:32)
“Just to confirm, North Carolina is still a basketball school.” (18:24)
Final thoughts:
Arch Manning: Media Hype & Reasonable Expectations (26:24–28:41)
“There’s so little we’ve seen at this point. Scouts will tell you, you don’t know what you get till teams have five, six, seven games of tape on him.” — Albert Breer (27:26)
Belichick’s North Carolina Challenge vs. TCU (28:41–30:56)
Micah Parsons Trade: Breaking Down the Cowboys' Moves (31:37–37:52)
“You don’t bring in George Pickens if you’re talking about the locker room.” (34:50)
“If you put him on the market in March or April, you probably get more. It’s tough to trade a guy right before the season.” (36:10)
Super Bowl & Team Picks (37:52–41:09)
Lighter Side: Fantasy League Names (41:09–41:56)
Cowboys’ Rebuild and Roster Philosophy
More ‘Best and Worst’ and College Football History
Notable Quotes
Luke DeCock on the UNC-TCU game:
“It did not look like an ACC-caliber team. It looked like a stew of a bunch of things thrown together hoping the celebrity chef can make something out of it.” (09:15)
On booster/fan patience:
“Boosters are pot committed now… The patience is already gone.” — Luke DeCock (15:56)
Dan, humorously:
“Just to confirm, North Carolina is still a basketball school.” (18:24)
On Bill Belichick’s debut:
“Forget the cutoff sleeves. Belichick got pantsed last night. He got exposed.” — Luke DeCock (16:32)
Albert Breer’s Micah Parsons insight:
“How can we make the locker room the best locker room in the NFL and empower Dak? … Micah Parsons didn’t fit that.” (33:57)