Hour 3 – Making Your Name, Short Arms

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 3 – Making Your Name, Short Arms (Feb 26, 2026)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Dan Patrick and the Danettes dive into NFL Draft season, focusing on the NFL Combine and the endless debate about draft measurables—especially hand size and arm length. They analyze how these metrics can make or break a prospect's draft stock, compare notable player histories, and sprinkle in their signature humor and banter. The conversation expands into quarterback evaluations, franchise contexts, memorable NFL “combine misses,” and a segment about the greatest moments in sports—bowling included.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NFL Combine: The Value (or Not) of Measurables

• Ohio State & Texas A&M at the Combine
  Dan opens by noting the schools with the highest number of invited players—Texas A&M (13) and Ohio State (11), highlighting Mel Kiper’s projection of four Ohio State players in the top seven picks. (02:44)

• How Much Does the Combine Matter?
  Dan questions the real value of the combine compared to actual football tape:

  "You watch tape and tape, you can't lie. It's I'm watching it. I see it with my own eyes instead of I'm watching you at the combine, now I'm imagining you playing football. So it's different." (03:33)

  • He calls out “combine phenoms” and the pitfalls of teams falling for performance in shorts rather than on-field results.
  • Cites historic examples: Steve Largent and Jerry Rice—players whose combine measurables didn’t predict greatness.

• The Origin of the 40-Yard Dash
  Dan explains its roots with coach Paul Brown, who needed to assess punt coverage speed, not universal football ability. He downplays the importance of "track speed" at the combine:

  "The 40 doesn't mean anything to me. How often do you run 40 yards? Not very often." (06:07)

2. Quarterbacks: Hype, Risk, and Franchise Impact

• Scouting the Person, Not Just the Player
  Dan recounts warnings about Ryan Leaf based on character and culture fit, not just arm talent:

  "You gotta know who that person is. And it's a person, it's not just a player." (07:00)

• The ‘Safe’ Pick vs. the Superstar Dream
  • Discussion on Fernando Mendoza, likely number one pick for the Raiders, as "safe, but not great."
  • Comparison to Joe Flacco—competent, won a Super Bowl, but not elite—raises the question: is that enough?
• Draft Position vs. Opportunity
  Paulie brings up Jared Goff and expectations for high-drafted QBs. Sitting and learning (like Mahomes behind Alex Smith, Brady as a backup) can be crucial for development. (13:29)
• Systemic Losing and Franchise Luck
  Marvin points out some teams set QBs up for failure:

  "You get drafted by [the Jets or Browns], you're already behind the eight ball." (11:44) Dan:
  "Losing is systemic and you can't get it out... You can't get rid of the smell by opening the window." (11:57)

3. The Arm Length & Hand Size Obsession

• Ruben Bain Jr. and “Short Arm” Prospects
  Discussion of Reuben Bain Jr. (likely top-3 pick), revealed to have sub-31” arms (30 7/8”), “the third-shortest for an edge rusher since the NFL started tracking in 1999.” (16:00)

  • Jokes fly about being called "The Alligator" or "T-Rex":
    • "He could be T. Rex." – Dan (18:30)

• Does This Stuff Really Matter? Segment highlights players who beat the “short arms” stigma:

  • Trey Hendrickson, Aidan Hutchinson both <33” arms but successful careers.
  • Longest arms: Jason Pierre-Paul (34 3/4”).
  • Dan:

    "There's guys who are great with 33-inch arms, overcame the adversity of being short-armed." (26:01)

• Callers Chime In

  • Mike in Kentucky jokes: "A T. Rex has short arms, but they're still pretty ferocious, right?" Dan: "Well, no, they're gone. They're extinct." (27:35)

4. The Combine “Misses” and Heart Over Measurables

• Tom Brady’s legendary “bad” combine and career success.
  • "He looked like he'd had a few beers. He showed up, you know, disheveled.” – Dan (27:51)
• Callers and Dan bring up Antonio Brown, who tested poorly at the Combine but had a Hall-of-Fame-caliber career before his dramatic exit. (28:02)
• Call-in proposal: Should the Combine measure “heart” the way Secretariat’s was legendary among racehorses? The Danettes riff on "big hearts", medical metaphors, and the futility of such tests. (29:33 – 30:28)

5. The Danettes' Banter: Negativity, Parental Influence, and Big Heads

• Discussion of Fritzy’s negative outlook, traced humorously to his upbringing and mother’s "fear-based" warnings. (31:21)
• Locker room posters: caller reminisces about memorizing Dikembe Mutombo's full name ("Greatest poster ever." – Jared, 32:35).
• Conversation on head sizes as a hypothetical “next combine metric.”
  • Bruce Bochy’s legendary “eight head” referenced as a running inside joke. (34:06)
• The Danettes also reveal their own hat sizes and blood types for laughs, with Todd being humorously dubbed "O very negative." (35:42)

6. Bowling’s Greatest Moment

• Seaton brings up “Who do you think you are? I am!”—Pete Weber’s iconic bowling outburst, replayed and quoted with gusto:
  • "A strike to claim it. A strike to claim it. And he got it. Are you kidding me? That's right. Who do you think you are? I am." (45:06)
• The guys reminisce about classic bowling TV, the obscure fame of Don Johnson from Kokomo, Indiana, and bowling quirks.

7. Finals, What We Learned, and Preview

• The show wraps with banter over arm-measuring technique, funny speculations over St. John’s and Notre Dame basketball failures, more combine-metric jokes, and a tease for tomorrow’s guests: Daniel Jeremiah and Robert "Big Shot Bob" Horry.
  • "Who has the longest arms since they've been tracking since 1999...?" (24:49)
  • "That could end up being the bane of his existence." – Todd on Reuben Bain puns (17:18)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dan Patrick on Combine Overhype:

  "The three cone drill doesn’t mean anything to me. Really. The 40 doesn’t mean anything to me. How often do you run 40 yards? Not very often." (06:02)

• On Ryan Leaf:

  "The traits were there. Ryan had incredible talent, probably more talent than Peyton. Big guy, mobile guy, strong arm. But... it’s a person, not just a player." (07:00)

• On Franchise Dysfunction:

  "Losing is systemic and you can't get it out... you can't get rid of the smell by opening the window." (11:57)

• On Reuben Bain Jr.’s Arms:

  "Reuben Bain is an overachiever because despite the short arms...he was a beast in college." (16:00)
  “We're gonna call him the alligator.” (16:49)
  “For Reuben's sake, I really hope he's not like a half an inch away from sacking the quarterback... Oh, if his arms were longer, he would have got him. Little T. Rex arms.” – Marvin (18:20)

• On T. Rex Comparisons:

  Mike in Kentucky: "A T. Rex has short arms, but they're still pretty ferocious, right?"
  Dan: "Well, no, they're gone. They're extinct." (27:35)

• Bowling Lore:

  "A strike to claim it. A strike to claim it. And he got it. Are you kidding me? That's right. Who do you think you are? I am." – Pete Weber (45:06, as replayed by Dan and Seaton)

• Blood Type Banter:

  "I'm a positive. I don't know what that means." – Dan
  "You're O very negative." – Dan to Todd (35:42)

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Important Timestamps

• NFL Combine & Draft Discussion: 02:44 – 14:32
• Hand Size/Arm Length Segment (Reuben Bain Jr.): 15:15 – 19:00
• Callers (Combine, Short Arms, Brady, ‘Heart’ Metric): 26:10 – 30:28
• Danettes Family Upbringing & Negativity: 31:21 – 32:05
• Head Size as the Next Metric, Blood Type Jokes: 33:26 – 36:24
• Bowling’s Greatest Moment (Pete Weber): 44:36 – 46:49
• Basketball, Notre Dame/St. John's: 41:57 – 42:56
• Show Wrap-up, What We Learned, Tomorrow's Guests Teased: 48:56 – 49:20

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Tone and Show Spirit

The hour is a classic Dan Patrick Show blend: incisive sports analysis, skepticism of conventional wisdom, irreverent humor, and lively banter among the crew and callers. Real sports topics—such as combine measurable importance, quarterback scouting, and the unpredictability of NFL success—are tackled with both depth and playfulness. The recurring inside jokes, “dad-level” puns, and pop culture references keep the atmosphere light and engaging, making the football talk accessible and fun for casual and hardcore fans alike.

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Guests & Tomorrow's Teaser

• Upcoming Scheduled Guests:
  • Daniel Jeremiah (NFL Draft Analyst)
  • Robert "Big Shot Bob" Horry (NBA Legend)

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This episode is a must-listen for anyone who wants to understand the divide between scouting athletic traits and actual football performance, all wrapped in the Dan Patrick Show’s trademark wit and camaraderie.

Transcript

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on this Thursday, Dan and the Danette's Dan Patrick show. You look at the number of players from each school going to the combine. Texas A And M has 13, Ohio State has 11. And I'm looking at Mel Kuiper's mock draft. He's got four Ohio State players going in the top seven. You've got Caleb Downs, safety, going to the Jets. The Titans with linebacker Orville Reese. The Browns taking a wide receiver, Carnell Tate. The Commanders taking Sunny Styles, a linebacker at number seven. So four of the top seven players, Ohio State, and they might have an offensive lineman going at the end of the first round. Yes.

[Marvin]

Marvin, if you're an Ohio State fan, does that make you even more upset that you didn't win the national title? You the Kentucky basketball thing.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, that's a great point. Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. And pick up some T shirts@dan patrick.com including the backroom guys have their own T shirt. All their names are on the T shirt. And Hughes, your daddy, the T shirt available from the [e-mail] we will update the poll results. New poll question coming up. And you know the interesting part with the combine is somebody is going to make a name for themselves. Somebody's going to move into the first round. Maybe a couple players will move into the first round. And this is what I always find interesting. You watch tape and tape. You can't lie. It's I'm watching it. I see it with my own eyes instead of I'm watching you at the combine now I'm imagining you playing football. So it's different. I see this proof of concept right there in front of me, too. Oh my gosh. And this goes back to Zach Wilson. If you saw the tape at byu, all right, you saw there was talent there. But I only saw it for one year and I don't want a one year wonder. And then you saw the pro day. Oh my gosh. Did you see what he just did? He rolled left and there's no defenders and he threw back right and he threw it 60 yards. It's nice, but it doesn't mean anything. And I think we get caught up in who can jump the highest, run the fastest, who throws the hardest, all of these things. There are certain players in the history of the sport and if I looked at them at the combine, I wouldn't have drafted them. But when you see them on the football field and you go, how did I not see this? I go back to Two players. Steve Largent. I saw Steve play in college and I thought, boy, that guy catches a lot of balls. I didn't think he could play in the NFL. He's a Hall of Famer. And then Jerry Rice, when I first saw him highlights at the combine, I go, I don't know if he can play. He wasn't fast. And then you see him on the football field and he, he's football fast. Now, Steve Larget wasn't football fast. He was football quick. He was unbelievable in running routes and so was Jerry. But you're, you're sometimes caught up in, oh my God, like the three cone drill doesn't mean anything to me. Really. The 40 doesn't mean anything to me. How often do you run 40 yards? Not very often. And the fact that the 40 yard dash was invented by the great coach Paul Brown because a punt was around 40 yards, he wanted to know who was going to get down there on punt coverage. So we came up with a 40 yard dash. I'm more concerned with where you are in, in a, in a five yard window, a ten yard window, because those are real. That's real. Getting off the line of scrimmage and there's certain players where you go, that guy can't miss to the other guy. Where you go, he can't make it. And you're trying to sort through personality traits. And I always say, and I was told this, and I was told this because it actually came true when, you know, my source said, you know, with Ryan Leaf, he talked to people who were around Ryan Leaf when he was at Washington State and he, it was advising a team not to take him. Now, of course he goes second to the Chargers, but you do the background check. Does the guy, you know, is he well liked? Does he love playing? Does he show up early? Is he, you know, a, a true teammate? Is he difficult to coach? Well, that's where you find out your information, the information that he needed because the traits were there. Ryan had incredible talent, probably more talent than Peyton. Big guy, mobile guy, you know, strong arm. All of that played well in the Rose Bowl. But you're still, you're investing, you're investing all of this money or event, eventually investing to $250 million. And you gotta know who that person is. And it's a person, it's not just a player. You know, Fernando Mendoza seems safe. Do I think he's great? I don't think he's great, but he's safe. And that's, you know, when people heard me say this, they're like, why would you make the comparison? If Fernando Mendoza had a Joe Flacco career, would you be satisfied? And I said, yes. Joe Flacco had a really good career. He won a Super Bowl. We, we think the next guy is John Elway. We think the next guy's Tom Brady. They're not. I mean, those players come along, but it's. He would be the fourth quarterback drafted, maybe the fifth quarterback drafted if we go back a couple of years ago. But this year he stands out. Was he, you know, big and big moments. Absolutely. But I think if you're thinking that he's changing the game or he's going to be something, I mean, he's not Josh Allen, he's not Joe Burrow, not Lamar Jackson, he's not Mahomes. But maybe somewhere in that, you know, if you're in that area code, you'll take that. But he might be in that next level down and he's playing for the Raiders. I don't know what you're going to have there. Offensive line, got a new coach in there. Is Ashton Genti going to be a great player? Are you going to trade your best defensive player? Brock Bowers comes back. So there's a lot of questions there, but you got the safest pick probably in the draft. But if you're. My bar is higher. You know, when I look at these quarterbacks that you want them to be difference makers. I don't want you to be a game manager. And, and he may turn out to be that way. I mean, Joe Flacco wasn't the guy that you were gonna scheme against. But Joe Burrow was great in the playoffs, or I should say Joe Flacco was great in the playoffs and he won a Super Bowl. And I think that's the important part. Do we have somebody we can plug in for the next 10 years, 12 years? And if the Raiders have found that quarterback, good for them, because that's. Arizona thought they had their quarterback with Kyler Murray. Miami thought they had their quarterback. I mean, truly thought, and they invested in them. That's why it is really tricky. It's. It's still and always will be an inexact science because it's coach, gm, offensive coordinator, offensive line, who do you have, skill, position, how tough is your division? Like all of these things, you got to factor these things in. It's not just, hey, we're going to draft this guy and we're going to let him play. Well, it seems like, you know, these guys, GMs are giving you two years, maybe, maybe three at the most. I mean, Josh Rosen didn't even get that. Will Levis, Malik Willis, they move on quickly, which is amazing. The most important position in all of sports. And we have one good quarterback who is in this year's draft, maybe two in Ty Simpson. So the most important, well paid position in all of sports and you got one quarterback who is a first round, guaranteed first round. I don't know if Ty Simpson is. He might be out of, you know, by. By necessity, by default, but that's what I find amazing. There's always running backs, there's always wide receivers, there's always edge rushers. You got one quarterback. Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

And I think that's why you see this year with Sam Darnold, the Jets and the Browns, you get drafted by them, they're like, oh, you're already behind the eight ball because you got drafted to certain franchises. And so I think that hurts also.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Who you go to. And then, you know, losing is systemic and you can't get it out. It's permeated in the building. You can't get rid of the smell by opening the window. And that's part of the problem. And the Raiders fall into that. The jets certainly fall into that. Arizona falls into that. I still have hopes for Cleveland, but that's really based on if deshaun Watson can play. And you were smart with your first round draft picks. Okay. Now you got a chance to, I think, be a competitive team. And I know, look, we laugh at the Browns and rightfully so, the quarterbacking situation. Yeah. They have three quarterbacks, which means they don't have one, and that's a concern. But I think if you got desean Watson and he's healthy, let's see if he can play. Yeah.

[Paulie]

Paulie, you're talking about perceptions of quarterbacks like Mendoza. If he goes one overall, which he will look at. Jared Goff, 2016 draft, he was a bit of a surprise at the number one pick. Number two is Carson Wentz from one double A school. Jared Goff, how would you grade his career as of today? He did get his team to the super bowl that drafted him. They didn't win it. He gets traded. He's got the Lions competitive every year, but they haven't won it. But it's a pretty good career.

[Dan Patrick]

Is it borderline hall of Famer.

[Paulie]

He would need a Super bowl win and Super Bowl MVP to be considered.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Paulie]

But he's had a positive career.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. And that. Okay. If you're Fernando Mendoza and I said, that's going to be your career. You take that career in a second. You went to a Super Bowl. You've played at a really high level for two teams, two teams, and you play it, you know, you're still playing at a high level. So I think the expectation level with Fernando Mendoza might be unrealistic to start maybe the first two years. But that's why, you know, you have to modify it, you know, compared to where he's going. You know, the quarterback who falls in the draft usually ends up in a better situation because expectation is lower. You're going to sit for a little while. You can absorb the game. I mean, even Mahomes, he sat behind Alex Smith for a year. You know, Brady told me that years ago, if he had to start right away, he'd be out of the league. He wasn't ready to play. Yes, Marv, but if you draft, if

[Marvin]

you have the number one draft pick, aren't you looking to draft a future hall of Famer or are you just looking to pick the player that fits your team and your system?

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I think you, if it's a quarterback, you hope he's a Hall of Famer. But I have to have a Hall of Fame system there. I have to have that soft cushion for him. And I'm not changing offensive coordinators every other year. I mean, that's another thing with Philadelphia, with Jalen Hurts. How many offensive coordinators has he had? And if you keep changing it over and over and over and over, it's really difficult. You got to have sustainability there and certainly at that position with your offensive coordinator, your quarterback's coach and your head coach as well. I sneak in a couple of phone calls here. David in Ohio. Hi, David. What's on your mind today?

[Caller]

Yeah, Dan, this comments for Todd. Todd, I think I know what Marvin's favorite Bon Jovi song is. It's lay your small hands on me. Thank you.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, David. Hand size and arm length. It's going to be big the next few days there at the combine. Josh in Charleston. Hi, Josh. What's on your mind? Can't hear you. By the way, this just came out. Daniel Jeremiah NFL network Reuben Bain Jr. III, who's probably going in the top three? He has. His arms are not even 31 inches long. Both of them. Wow. Hand size nine and an eighth. But his arm length is 30 and 7, 8 inches. Sub 31 inch arms would be the third shortest for an edge rusher since the NFL started tracking arm length in 1999. Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the program. So Reuben Bain is an overachiever because despite the short arms, despite. He was a beast in College. Reuben Bain Jr. III, he doesn't even have arms that measure 31 inches. We're going to call him the alligator. His arms are South Florida.

[Paulie]

The crocodile.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, the alligator. He should sign a deal with crocs. We've already got the commercial ready. Yes, Todd.

[Todd]

That could end up being the bane of his existence.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. Okay. All right, Todd. Thank you. Oh, my God. I don't know how real this topic is now. It is for us. It's fun for us. You know, hand size, all of that. Who's on the show tomorrow? Todd?

[Todd]

We're going to talk to Daniel Jeremiah and big shot Bob Robert Ori.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Paulie]

Long arms.

[Dan Patrick]

So yeah, Bob. Or he's probably got seven foot wingspan.

[Seaton]

Massive hands too, I bet.

[Dan Patrick]

Probably. I don't know about Daniel Jeremiah, but Daniel Jeremiah, we'll ask him. Is this real? Where your arms. You know, Bill Lane beer had short arms. I remember. But as an edge Russian, I think he still does. Yes.

[Marvin]

Didn't change.

[Dan Patrick]

I make it seem like. Have you seen Bill lame beer lately? And his arms are long. Yes.

[Paulie]

Paulie Robert ori and an NBA Draft 71 wings.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Not surprised. Not surprised. Whoo. That'll be a topic conversation tomorrow. Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

For Reuben's sake, I really hope he's not like a half an inch away from sacking the quarterback or reaching the quarterback. Oh, if his arms were longer, he would have got him little T. Rex arms.

[Dan Patrick]

The alligator. Oh, yeah. He could be T. Rex. Yes, Todd.

[Todd]

And do you play crocodile rock on the loudspeaker if you're the opposing stadium?

[Dan Patrick]

All right, I see what you're doing here. You're workshopping it. Workshopping, yeah. We'll take a break. More phone calls coming up. We're back after this Dan Patrick show.

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right guys, two words for you. Prostate exam. Yeah, you just clenched up a little bit. Are you imagining the finger right now? Yeah. Relax. Prostate cancer screening starts with a simple finger free blood test. Around one in eight men in the United States will be diagnosed with prostate cancer in their lifetime. But that's no reason to re clench when caught early. At localized or even regional stages, prostate cancer can have over a 99% five year relative survival rate. Did your tight end just relax? Good. If you're over 40, 40 or older and have a prostate visit. Relax. It's a blood test.com you'll find out if a PSA blood test is right for you. The PSA blood test can be the first step in screening. Talk to your doctor to evaluate your risk, determine when to get tested and discuss screening options and the next steps. Sponsored by Novartis. It's only natural. You see these golfers mistaken the true green lawns for an actual golf course. Have you noticed that?

[Marvin]

Come on.

[Dan Patrick]

No, no, I'm serious. Happens all the time. And you know they're the official lawn care treatment provider, the PGA Tour. So they know what it takes to get golf course quality lawns.

[Seaton]

So you're saying we could host a tournament out back?

[Dan Patrick]

No, I mean we could make. Yeah, I guess we can. If Trugreen's doing all the work. No one makes it easier. They handle the treatments, the timing, everything.

[Paulie]

I feel like you see them everywhere.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Todd]

I'll play, but I'M not mowing.

[Dan Patrick]

I didn't think you were your wife, Will or your son. Get your own golf course. Quality [e-mail] trugreen.com let the pros handle the lawn. Just don't be surprised when golfers show up. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. We just talked about Reuben Bain Jr. Who's going to be a top three pick probably. And his sub, 31 inch arms would be the third shortest for an edge rusher since the NFL started tracking in 1999. This just in from the Texas A M defensive end courtesy of Daniel Jeremiah Cassius. How the shortest ever for an edge in history. It's 30 and a quarter inch arms. Yikes. What is going on? It's a short arm. Reuben Bain is happy that the Cash's Howells arms are 30 and a quarter inches long. Yes.

[Todd]

Todd, how are you going to play with arms that short?

[Dan Patrick]

You did with that. See what you did with that hand. Arm length. We're going to measure ours today and then I think we're all longer than Reuben Bain and Cash's. How. I don't know how we prepare for this, the arm measurement, but we're gonna do. Won't have the same impact as the hand size.

[Marvin]

It won't?

[Dan Patrick]

No. I'm sorry. Marvin. Even if your arms are longer than Seaton, it still doesn't matter. When we go to Pittsburgh for the draft, people are going to come up and put their hands up. Marvin's going to think they want to high five and they're like, no, we want to measure our hands.

[Marvin]

It's the worst.

[Dan Patrick]

I know.

[Marvin]

Like, oh, high five. Marvin, No, I want no high five from you. My fourth favorite DNA.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Paulie]

Paulie, I've got a list of all the defensive ends in history since 99 when they started measuring who measured 33 or under. Trey Hendrickson, 32 inch arms, very good career. How about Anthony Aiden Hutchinson, 32 and a half, great career. Debunks the theory, does it? That's a full debunking. Aiden Hutchinson.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, well. And people are going to say, well, Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald was a nose tackle. This is an edge rusher. Aaron Donald was just based on power going up the middle. Edge rusher, getting your arms around, you know, an offensive lineman getting leverage. Who has the longest arms since they've been tracking since 1999.

[Paulie]

Okay, I have it. He played for a smaller school down south. He had a very good career.

[Dan Patrick]

Javon curse?

[Paulie]

No, but that's a good guess. I don't have. I don't think curses on here because of when he was drafted.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Paulie]

Amongst the longest, Josh Sweat. 34 and a half. Okay, this guy, Jason Pierre Paul. South Florida, 34 and 3 quarters.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but they were counting two different names there. Jason and Pierre the hyphen. Yeah. So they combined them. So those are long arms. Jason, his brother Pierre Paul was Sweat, the guy that Patriots took. Oh, no. Josh, who was the offensive lineman, remember the Rams like laughed at. The Patriots reached for this guy. Do you remember Cole Strange? Oh, Cole Strange. Okay. All right. All right. Josh Sweat. Yeah.

[Seaton]

Who's laughing now?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, who, who else do you got in there, Paulie?

[Paulie]

There's.

[Dan Patrick]

There's a bunch of guys.

[Paulie]

There's a, there's.

[Dan Patrick]

How long are these arms?

[Paulie]

30, almost 35 inches. For Jason Pierre Paul, that's the longest measure since 99.

[Dan Patrick]

Really?

[Paulie]

Yeah, but it's a mix. There's guys who are great with 33 inch arms, overcame adversity of being short armed.

[Seaton]

It's all part of the story.

[Dan Patrick]

Tyler in North Carolina. Hi, Tyler. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Hey, DP 62280. Thank you.

[Dan Patrick]

Love you guys.

[Caller]

But I was just thinking. So you guys keep talking about Mendoza being a surefire number one pick if, if the Raiders are such a bad place for a quarterback like that. What if they go bane number one to either Offset Crosby or replace Crosby if they get rid of him? And I'll sit back and listen to you guys.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I, I mentioned, would you at least entertain trading the number one pick? But you know, if somebody would be willing to overpay in a draft where there aren't quarterbacks, I think it'd be crazy to not at least entertain that. But the, the Raiders don't think the Raiders are bad when it comes to, you know, drafting players. I mean, we do, but if you can get Mendoza. The only thing I would say is the same thing I said about Andrew Luck all those years. Why did you. Why did you draft him? You know, spend that money and then you didn't have a good offensive line and it eventually led to him retiring early and Mendoza coming in there. I, I mean, I hope he doesn't start right away, but he probably will. Mike, in Kentucky, I. Mike, you know,

[Caller]

a T. Rex has short arms, but they're still pretty ferocious, right?

[Dan Patrick]

Well, no, they're gone. They're extinct.

[Caller]

But reason I called is Brady had a terrible combine as I remember. I remember watching him run the 40 and you need a sun dial to time him.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, I know. He looked like he was on a Bender that weekend or something. He looked like he'd had a few beers. He showed up, you know, disheveled.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paulie, I went and looked for players who had bad combines, great career. One that stood out was Antonio Brown, the wide receiver. All his numbers were in the bottom third of wide receivers running in the combine. Performing in the combine that year. He had a borderline hall of fame career. Yeah, he was on his way.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yeah. He had a six year run. If he wasn't the best receiver, he was in the conversation. Wow. Yes.

[Marvin]

Marv is the borderline only because of the way it ended. Because those six years should put you in.

[Dan Patrick]

But it's not like he was injured the way trail Davis was.

[Marvin]

No, no. That's what I'm saying.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Marvin]

Just the way things ended.

[Dan Patrick]

And Gail Sayers, they. They got injured and therefore their careers were cut short. I still maintain Antonio Brown, when he got hit in the Bengals game, Vontes Burfic. I. I just don't think he was ever the same after that.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paulie, Antonio Brown had 750 catches in six seasons.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

He was first team all pro four seasons in a row. No one's ever done that and not made the hall of fame ever. But he. He gave the finger to the entire NFL and people don't like that.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

And he continues to do so.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

He's going to get no sentiment.

[Dan Patrick]

Correct. Pat in Pennsylvania. Hi, Pat. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Dan, I have another combine metric for you.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Caller]

Secret Secretariat was such a tremendous horse that the torque was twice the size or whatever it was than a regular horse. What if the combine put these athletes through either a scan or a CT to see how big their heart is?

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. I don't know what kind of measurables they do when they do the medicals.

[Paulie]

How high is your motor?

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know if they look to see your heart is an enlarged heart seemed like a bad thing.

[Paulie]

Not at the combine, Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

That guy, he's all heart. He is all heart. He's got too much heart. Yes, Todd, you could have a big

[Todd]

heart because you could use it for some horrible reasons though. That's not going to tell you anything. You got a big heart and size wise, but there are some terrible people out there that might have a big heart, but it could just be used for negative things.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know what you're saying. What are you saying?

[Todd]

I don't know what I'm saying.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Thank you, Todd. Yes, Marvin. More and more.

[Marvin]

I'm more. Fritzy is the most negative person I might know.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It. Paulie used to be the king and Fritzy kicked him to the curb.

[Paulie]

Blew past me.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Seaton]

Well, Paul finally wore him down.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Todd]

I was never this cynical.

[Seaton]

Might be Paul's greatest triumph is ruining Todd.

[Dan Patrick]

He helped, but you're right. When we. How many times do we say, why do you think see it from that angle? Negativity.

[Todd]

I wasn't always this way.

[Dan Patrick]

But what changed?

[Todd]

I don't know. I think over time. You think we go lucky. How lucky? But I was a lot happier.

[Dan Patrick]

Definitely happy. Go. You didn't get lucky. Yes. Especially living with your mom. Yes.

[Paulie]

Paul, I've heard Fritzi's story about growing up and his mother a hundred times here. And I think Todd has a fear based mentality and a be careful. Negative things will happen to you if you leave the house. If you try things. Negative things. And I think he got it from his mother. Would be fair to say.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. I would say being around your mom, I could see where she was. Always it was, if you're going out, you know, you could fall down the steps or, you know, if you're going on the subway, don't stand close to the tracks. I knew somebody who got pushed in the trail.

[Todd]

Yeah, I'm a lot more careful and cautious.

[Dan Patrick]

Probably a lot of stories growing up that your mom would, you know, warn you about or caution you. Yeah.

[Todd]

Because anything she said, I'm waiting for the.

[Dan Patrick]

Jared in South Dakota. Hi, Jared. What's on your mind today?

[Caller]

What's up, dp? You guys talking Wingspan? Seaton mentioned the Air Jordan poster where he's got his arms out palming the basketball. In middle school, my locker room had a Dikembe Mutombo poster with his full birth name on it. My buddy and I skipped half a football practice to memorize it. Still got it. 26 years later. Dikembe Mutumbo, Mapalumbo Mukumba, Jean Jacques Wamatumba. Greatest poster ever.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Jared. Dan in Naples, Florida. Hi, Dan.

[Caller]

Hey. Currently, just a quick question for Marvin. I just want to know what are the potato chips taste like at the bottom of a Pringles can?

[Marvin]

These are all so hurtful, but accurate.

[Dan Patrick]

Can you get your hand into a Pringle canister?

[Marvin]

I'd rather not say. Okay, so that's a yes.

[Seaton]

He might not be alone.

[Dan Patrick]

Seaton, can you get your hand into a Pringle can?

[Seaton]

I gotta admit, I haven't tried in

[Dan Patrick]

a while, but I wouldn't be surprised

[Seaton]

if I can sort of have These condensed pretty compact.

[Dan Patrick]

That was sneaky good. Sneaky good by Dan Tripp in Vegas. Good morning, trip.

[Caller]

Good morning, Dan. 76 inches tall, 80 inch reach. I had a. A question about. We were talking about the combine, but how about the next thing? So they went from hands to arms. When are they going to do head size?

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know if they do head size. Now you'll. When you're getting your helmet or your baseball hat, then we find out what your head size is. Because I would always be curious about guys who were an eight head. There was a pitcher for the White Sox, James Baldwin, and he had an eight head.

[Paulie]

Who's.

[Dan Patrick]

Who's the manager for the Giants? Bruce Bochi. Bruce Bochy. Eight head.

[Paulie]

Eight plus.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. You could put a six pack of beer with ice into his.

[Seaton]

Arguably one of the coolest things in baseball history.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I mean it's going to come in handy. Like what are you going to use that hat for? We can use it for a cooler. I can get a six pack in here, put some ice in here as well. An eight head.

[Seaton]

What's better than that? I don't know.

[Dan Patrick]

And Satan would win the head off in here when you.

[Seaton]

Huge head.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah. That's the Irishness. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Seaton]

I got a noggin for sure.

[Dan Patrick]

But it doesn't look like you do.

[Seaton]

No, no, I don't.

[Dan Patrick]

Is it the length of it? Because I don't really like. I don't think you have.

[Seaton]

Is it.

[Dan Patrick]

I wouldn't. You know, Ross Tucker has a big head. He does. But I don't look at you and go, man, you got a noggin on you.

[Seaton]

Yeah, but I do.

[Dan Patrick]

I do. Anybody else got a big knob?

[Paulie]

I wear a seven and a half baseball hat. Yeah, that's pretty good size.

[Dan Patrick]

But not huge, by the way. I just found out. I'm almost 70. I just learned my blood type. I just learned it when I was doing stem cell in Panama and I go, hey, you're taking all this blood. Could you check and see what my blood type is? And they were shocked that in the United States we don't put our blood type on our driver's license. And I think that we should. But what is it? O positive is the prevailing blood type. Todd?

[Todd]

Yeah, I'm O negative.

[Dan Patrick]

O type.

[Todd]

That means you're the universe.

[Seaton]

You are O negative, aren't you?

[Dan Patrick]

Very negative.

[Paulie]

Extremely.

[Dan Patrick]

You're O very. My own blood.

[Todd]

You're the universal donor. AB is a universal recipient.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm sorry, Mr. Fritz. You are O very negative.

[Todd]

I'M very giving. I can give to all the other bloods with O, but I. I can only get O.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. You want to guess my blood type? Todd, I'll start with you.

[Todd]

I'm going to go positive by saying be positive.

[Dan Patrick]

Be positive. Why not, Marvin?

[Marvin]

Oh, positive.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. Satan.

[Seaton]

I think you're more of an a B guy.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, Paulie.

[Paulie]

I'll go a B positive.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm a positive. I don't know what that means.

[Seaton]

Hey, congratulations.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, thank you. Like, is. Am I in a category that is exclusive?

[Seaton]

Yeah. Well, yeah, it depends. And now it matters. Who you can donate blood to is what that means or whose blood you can get. So, like, you're compatible probably with like A and O, but not B and maybe something like that.

[Dan Patrick]

All right.

[Todd]

And you're a positive person. That's your personality, which is nice too. So you kill two birds with one stone.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm a positive person.

[Todd]

You could say a positive.

[Dan Patrick]

I know, I know. For the play on words. I get it. Yeah. But a positive, is that a big deal?

[Paulie]

Yes, Paul, in the United States, 40 of the people approximately. Oh, positive. 30. A positive and downwards.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, okay. So it's not a big deal.

[Paulie]

It's not a bad thing. It's not a negative.

[Dan Patrick]

I know, but I wanted to be like, in an exclusive club.

[Paulie]

Oh, so like a negative is 6%.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I'd. I'd rather be something like that.

[Paulie]

Is there a C? I think I would be a C, whatever it is. A hard C. Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

You'd get like a C. Is there C minus?

[Paulie]

C minus. And it would get me through life.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Todd]

He's got degrees and transfusions and you're fine.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Todd. Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store tomorrow, we're going to try to accomplish all of that. Next.

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[Marvin]

Come on.

[Dan Patrick]

No, no, I'm serious. Happens all the time. And you know, they're the official lawn care treatment provider, the PGA Tour. So they know what it takes to get golf course quality lawns.

[Seaton]

So you're saying we could host a tournament out back?

[Dan Patrick]

No, I mean we could make. Yeah, I guess we can. If True Green's doing all the work, no one makes it easier. They handle the treatments, the timing, everything.

[Paulie]

I feel like you see them everywhere.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Beautiful lawns. And you know it's True Green America's number one lawn care company. And chances are they're already in your neighborhood.

[Todd]

I'll play, but I'm not mowing.

[Dan Patrick]

I didn't think you were. Your wife, will or your son. Get your own golf course quality [e-mail] trugreen.com let the pros handle the lawn. Just don't be surprised when golfers show up. Last call for phone calls. What we learned, what's in store tomorrow. Five time major champ Brooks Koepka and the PGA Tour they take on the Bear Trap. That'll be at the Palm Beaches Saturday and Sunday, three eastern on NBC. And Peacock source of mine just told me how to measure arm length. He said make sure that you Raise your arm up to parallel to the shoulder. Find the slot in the shoulder. Measure from the slot in the shoulder to the tip of the middle finger. Paulie and Fritzi will be 30ish length. I'll be 32 plus for my arm length there. I'll be ready with our combine numbers for tomorrow when Daniel Jeremiah joins us. I've tuned into two basketball games in the last two nights. Notre Dame against Duke and Connecticut against St. John's now I need St. John's to play Notre Dame after what happened to both of those teams. They were terrible. I mean, the fact that Notre Dame lost by what, 60 at home to Duke and then St. John's had. They didn't even score 40 against Connecticut. Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

Actually, they score 40 on the dot.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, they did? Okay.

[Marvin]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, okay. Well, then it's okay. They missed their final 24 field goal attempts at that game.

[Seaton]

It's not ideal.

[Dan Patrick]

And St. John's had won 13 in a row. That's the amazing part. You were playing well. Notre Dame's not a very good team. Yes.

[Todd]

Todd, when you lose that bad, is it worth even screaming and yelling at the team afterwards? To be that bad, you're probably better off just leaving and saying nothing would make more of a statement than to start yelling at them for missing all those shots.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. I don't know if it's one moment that you can yell at him, but I mean, if you're gonna. If you have film session like you do, you just play it and then you don't say anything because I don't. I don't even know what you could say. I would just make them sit through it with the commercials, too. I'm going to make it, you know, two hours. Just sit in there. You just sit in there right now. Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

Yeah. When you lose a bad game, that's the worst part. Film session is going to be terrible because you already feel bad enough. But now we have to relive it, the entire thing.

[Dan Patrick]

Carl in California. Hi, Carl. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Hey, Dan. First time, long time, six foot and the post hip replacement hard 170. Thank you. Just calling. I'm a beleaguered Padres and Chargers fan, but calling about. I grew up swimming and playing water polo. Some of these guys have arms that are longer than their. That touch the ground. How would Michael Phelps translate in this conversation? His hands and arms are massive.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. I'm sure that he would do well if he was going to the swimming combine. Too long. Yeah, he thinks.

[Seaton]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Arms his feet too big, hands too big. Yeah. I'll bet his wingspan is probably close to seven feet.

[Paulie]

Yes, Paulie, according to the usoc, they actually have this. His wingspan, Michael Phelps is listed at 6 4. His height. His wingspan is just over 6ft, 7 inches.

[Dan Patrick]

What? That's it?

[Paulie]

And he overcame that to have a pretty good career.

[Dan Patrick]

I can't imagine that. His wingspan is only six seven.

[Paulie]

This is from the usoc.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm not believing them. Sorry.

[Paulie]

I'll call him again.

[Dan Patrick]

Sorry. Just not going to believe that this day in sports history. Got anything good.

[Paulie]

I don't have that much good. I got Babe Ruth. His contract expired and he left the New York Yankees.

[Seaton]

I have something great this day in sports history.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, great.

[Seaton]

Marvin, do you have a piece of audio you got? Oh, this happened, I believe, 14 years ago today.

[Dan Patrick]

Sounds like somebody has done some preparation. Okay. Strike to claim it. A strike to claim it. And he got it. Are you kidding me? That's right. Who do you think you are? I am.

[Seaton]

Surely the greatest moment in bowling history if. And I don't know where it ranks in just all time sports history, but it might be top 20.

[Dan Patrick]

And that bowler was Pete Weber. Pete Weber Jr III.

[Paulie]

Iconic Pete Weber, who do you think you are?

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, man, I don't know.

[Seaton]

What's my favorite?

[Dan Patrick]

This is a little bit like the.

[Seaton]

It's still real to me.

[Dan Patrick]

Damn it. Clip.

[Seaton]

Because the more I hear it, the more I analyze different parts of it. At this point, I don't know if my favorite part is him turning around going, that's right.

[Dan Patrick]

I did it. Or who do you think you are? I am, ma'. Am.

[Todd]

With the thumb pointing at him.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, I know, I know. But he was colorful. Yeah. Now, not every opponent appreciated that, but the fans did. I think. Yes. Paul.

[Paulie]

That wasn't just some weekend match. That was the 2012 US Open, Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

His fifth title.

[Todd]

That's right.

[Dan Patrick]

I did it.

[Todd]

I got the 710 split.

[Dan Patrick]

You didn't. I am. Who do you think you are? Claim it. A strike to claim it. And he got it. That is right. I said at number five. Are you kidding me? That's right. What do you think you are? Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

Does he hit him with the. I never thought. Did you hear that? I never thought.

[Dan Patrick]

Strike to claim it. A strike to claim it. And he got it.

[Seaton]

I never.

[Dan Patrick]

I never thought. That's right. I did it. Know who you are? I am. What? A legend. What?

[Seaton]

A legend.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Todd]

Todd, Would that make future bowls more or less likely to trash talk? Because that was just beyond ridiculous and silly.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm watching that. I used to watch bowling on Saturday. I would. Chris Schenkel and. But I. It might have been Wide World of Sports, maybe, but I remember watching bowling. And Earl Anthony, left hander. Yeah. And Mark Roth, I think Don. Don Johnson from Kokomo, Indiana, I think. Yeah. I don't know why. And I wasn't a bowler. I didn't like bowling.

[Seaton]

Is that what the Beach Boys are actually singing about?

[Dan Patrick]

I'm going to Coco. I think his name was Don Johnson from Kokomo.

[Seaton]

Maybe Pocomo, the imaginary island. No, no, Indiana. Oh, Don Johnson, the actor.

[Dan Patrick]

No, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, Paul.

[Paulie]

Yeah. Don Johnson, legendary bowler from Kokomo, Indiana.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. Nailed it.

[Paulie]

RIP 2003.

[Seaton]

All right.

[Dan Patrick]

You know, okay. 55 years later, I'm still remembering.

[Marvin]

Right. But not too fast. We'll take it slow.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Down to Coco. It's a real place.

[Marvin]

That's amazing.

[Dan Patrick]

Come on, Todd. Off the Florida Keys.

[Todd]

Did you always think it was amazing that the ball would be half in the gutter and at the last minute, right into the middle?

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, and then they would talk about oiling the lanes. And I have friends who were big bowlers.

[Paulie]

Are we staying in our lane?

[Dan Patrick]

I'm never staying in my lane.

[Seaton]

You get to dry your hand off on the little air thing and then you're, let's go.

[Dan Patrick]

Or swing your arm after. Or the ball would come up and sometimes, you know, be like you're waiting for it. Waiting for it. And it'd be like, get your fingers

[Seaton]

pinched a little bit.

[Dan Patrick]

Pull them away.

[Seaton]

So nobody saw. Nobody saw that. I've been eating french fries this whole time.

[Dan Patrick]

I know. Drinking beer with my left hand.

[Todd]

They have those special little wrist armbands.

[Dan Patrick]

I had one of those. Oh, yeah. I had the. The arm brace. Yeah. What did we learn on today's program? I don't know if we learned anything, Todd.

[Todd]

I think we learned a lot of things, including Mike in Kentucky says T. Rexes are ferocious even with their small arms, but alas, they're extinct.

[Dan Patrick]

Seaton, what'd you learn today?

[Seaton]

New Jersey is, in fact, a great state.

[Marvin]

Marvin, you're a positive.

[Paulie]

Paul, can we send this entire show in for the Emmys?

[Dan Patrick]

No. We're going to win. Todd. What did I learn?

[Todd]

Matt Miller says teams do not want Jeremiah left to folder the Chiefs at nine, giving Mahomes another big weapon.

[Dan Patrick]

Thanks for joining us. We look forward to talking to you on our meet Friday. Have a great day.

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